What are some video games involving Math, not counting basic

skyrim with math mod

58

>>385436387
58

>>385436580
>>385436683
Lol did you pass high school? It's 10.

PEDMAS you idiots, it's 10

>>385436387
10

3.6

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I mean there are tons of games with advanced mechanics

Take for instance Dota. Try to understand armor in that game, it's incredibly complicated. And of course there is Eve Onlike aka Microsoft Excel the game

>>385436387
Is it not 154?
10^2 ÷2 x3 +4

>>385436387

58

There's no math to do in the Parenthesis.
Do the exponent to get 36 / 2 * 3 + 4
Divide 36 by 2 to get 18 * 3 + 4
Multiply 18 by 3 to get 54 + 4
Add 4 to get 58

>>385436753
Where do you think you are?
Half the people here were ironic underachievers in school that think they could do it if they tried. Like some kind of secret genius.
But yeah it's 10

>>385436580
>>385436683
How the fuck did you get 58?
How the fuck did you even pass math class?

answer is 10

It's 154 you dense motherfuckers.

It's 10

36 ÷ 6 + 4 = 10

58

>>385436387
10

>>385436580
do the operation in order, don't start wherever you want.

>>385437069
Idiot. Do 2*3 before you divide

>>385437069
It's 10, you solve parenthesis first.

>>385437185

Why?

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>People posting 10 to bait
>People posting 10 because they're bad at math
>can't tell the difference

why the fuck are you faggots arguing

>>385437185
You're the moron. The 2 isn't in the brackets so has no priority being multiplied by 3. 58

>>385437269
Parentheses

>>385437264
>>385437185

There's nothing to solve within the parenthesis though. They effectively don't mean anything because the parenthesis part means you solve what's inside the parenthesis first, and the 2 is outside of them, so 2(3) is essentially 2 * 3. It doesn't affect anything.

10

the answer is 0

check my 0

>>385437315
You're, unironically, clinically retarded if you believe it's anything other than 10

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>>385436802
>Not Superior Canadian BEDMAS
But yeah its 10

>>385436387

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%5E2%2F2(3)%2B4

At least 154 and 58 both get the answer the same way.

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>>385437315
Order of operations.

>>385437354
There's no operation inside the parenthesis you retard

>>385437264
>>385437161
>>385437114
>>385436803
>>385436802
>>385436753
>>385437376
>>385437354
The answer to the parenthesis is "3".
Parens only prioritizes that which is in the parens, not anything outside of it. And since "2" is outside of the parens, its multiplication does not have priority over its division.

(3)=3.

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>>385437069
Thanks for saving me typing all that shit anon.
>>385437264
>>385437185
There is nothing to solve INSIDE the parentheses, even if there was it comes out and you still don't touch the thing that came out before dealing with others.
Sweet jesus am I getting baited?

>>385437469
>>385437470
10fags on suicide watch

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P E M D A S

First we do 6 squared for 36
Then we do THE PARENTHESIS BEFORE THE DIVISION DUMMIES, which gives us 6
36 divided by 6 is, you guessed it, 6
Add 4 to get 10

IT'S 10 DUMBASSES. IT'S 10

PEMDAS. NOTICE THE M BEFORE THE D. NOTICE THE P BEFORE THE D. ALL MULTIPLACATION COMES BEFORE DIVISION.

A*b*c = a*c*b
A*b/c= a/c*b
2(3) = 2*3


This should clear things up for you brainlets.

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>using shit notation

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>>385437470
And every 10 fag ignores

>>385437269
2(3) isn't the same as 2*3. Yes the outcome is the same, but 2(3) is a group pair whereas 2*3 changes depending on where it's located in the problem.

1 + 2(3) =/= 1 + 2*3

>>385437470
Where in the hell are you getting the 3 from?

>>385436387
Using ÷ instead of / to confuse us eh? Nice try.

>>385437638

>a group pair

what the fuck did he mean by this?

>>385437646
From OPs image?

>>385437604
>THE PARENTHESIS BEFORE THE DIVISION DUMMIES, which gives us 6
(3)=3

>>385436480
>>385437563
Are you mentally retarded? x(y) always means that you multiply x by y. Go to fucking school.

>still can't tell if people actually believe it's 10

Just in case you guys are actually this retarded, it's 2(3), not (2*3). Thanks answer is 58

>>385437365
the parentheses are there to imply that that Operation comes first

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shit thread

this is better than /pol/ bait threads

>>385437679
Leave him alone, he's still in elementary school

>>385436387
Ay caramba read this before solving that.
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/33240/what-is-multiplication-by-juxtaposition

>>385436387
What is lo2 supposed to be?

>>385436387
Is that a 6 or a 10?
I can't tell.

>>385437323

Nah. Think of it as 2x where x=3 instead.

I'd draw a pretty math picture with a better description, but I'm phone posting.

>>385437715
skyrim(math mod)

>>385437508
"Parethesis" means what's IN the parenthesis has the precedence, not anything related to them. 2(3) is a multiplication.

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Will /v/ EVER stop biting the poorly-written equation bait?

>>385437715
>x(y) always means that you multiply x by y.
Which I did.
Multiplication does not have priority over division.

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>>385437604
YOU FUCKING NIGGER IT MEANS INSIDE THE PARENTHESIS
YOU FUCKING RETARD THE ANSWER COMES OUT OF PARENTHESIS

>Write two characters more
>It's the same as * :^)
When something cause interpretation problems, you avoid it

>>385437679
It means that the 2(3) takes priority because the 2 is right fucking on the parenthesis.
HIghschool drop outs need to leave.

>>385437849
>equation
lmao

AMERICAN EDUCATION

>>385437717
>being this retarded

>>385436753
>>385436802
>>385436803
>>385437136
>>385437161
>>385437264
>>385437604
Funny how the people that are wrong are always the one's that call others dumbasses.

>>385436387

>Do any games exist that require the use of maybe single-variable Calculus, or something?

You're a freshman-sophmore level enigeering major it would seem and you are super proud of that.

>>385437508
>>385437604
Wrong.
Multiplication and Division have equal priority and as such are done left to right in the equation.
The parenthesis gives us 3. The only thing in the parenthesis is '3', so the answer is 3.

>>385437898
>be wrong
>act retarded

You got a bright future on /v/

>>385436387
5

>>385437980
But I didn't :(

>>385438005
>he thinks the answer is 58
>calls someone else retarded
Toppest of keks

>>385437898
No it fucking doesn't. It would take priority if it's (2*3), not 2(3).

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>>385436387

>>385437726
Snek on fier pls halp

>>385437706
That is the first thing you have to deal with due to parenthesis, which makes it into a 6. Six multiplied to the second power is the second thing you do, which turns into 36. You then divide 36 by 6, which equals 6. Then add 4 + 6, which equals 10.

>>385438067
>he's right
>better call him retarded

There's plenty of 3 digit iq people in the thread already explaining the mistake you likely made.
Try >>385437470
or>>385437365

>>385437719
You're correct that parenthesis are used to force priority, but in this case that isn't what is happening. It's simply notated as such for multiplication. If it was (2 * 3) then you would do the parenthesis first.

>>385438102

Why did you move the 3 along with the 2?

>>385437898
2(3) is equivalent to 2 * (2+1), operations inside parenthesis are calculated first, and then the multiplication is carried out from left to right like normal. 36/2 happens before 2*3. Being multiplied by parenthesis does not include the precedence that parenthesis carry.

>>385438076
this faggot never took calculus

>>385436387
KSP.
Unless you are one of those people that slap enough fuel to satisfy the need of the entire civilized world for 50 years and brute force your way toward Minmus with 0 delta-V remaining

So whats the right answer?

Serious question:

What was decided upon and created first?
PEMDAS and order of operations, or the algebraic axioms like commutativity and distributivity?

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>>385437470
>>385437646

Probably cause he typed it in wrong. Looks nothing like op's image.

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Holy shit all this retards yelling
>PEMDAS!!! IT'S OBLIVIOUSLY 10 YOU IDIOTS
yet doesn't even know how it actually works.

>>385438102
Smart anon

>>385436909
>DotA 2 armor
>incredibly complicated
>this is what brainlets playing ASSFAGGOTS actually believe
It's just the WC3 formula which is slightly modified for negative values. It's incredibly easy to understand. Every armor point is worth exactly 6% of base HP. Damage reduction is calculated accordingly.

>>385438102
pretty much this
÷ is shit

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>>385438102

But that's wrong.

>>385438178
because it is part of the attached denominator to 2.

>>385438241

WHY DID YOU ADD MORE PARENTHESIS JESUS CHRIST YOU FUCKING BRAIN-DEAD MOUTH BREATHING MONG HOLY SHIT

These fucking arguments aren't even about correct maths, it's about interpreting the notation. It's the most pointless shit and I'm currently in another thread arguing whether a cube coming out of a portal would shoot off or plop out.

>>385438102
You did the multiplication before the division, therefore you did it incorrectly.

somebody put this into a ti 84 pls

>>385438241
Oh look, it's the Let's add parenthesis out of nowhere because retarded


>hurr durr Pemdas is easy, look at me adding shit in to get my (wrong) answer

>>385438230
This faggot never got past 4th grade.

>>385436387
People who write out equations like this are obviously teachers. The division and multiplication signs shouldnt even exist. There should only be fractions and parentheses. This shit is written with the sole purpose of confusing you fucktards. 58

>>385438295

Because computers are retarded when typing math in. Have you never programmed or used Wolfram before for equations?

>>385438165
>>385438198
thanks anons, I didn't actually know I was retarded.

>>385438237
I too would like to know this.

>>385438326
It would plop out

>>385438275
it's the way you wrote it that makes it fuck up. You didn't specify to bring the 3 with the 2 in the denominator. The problem is written like shit.

>>385438281

there's no such thing as an attached denominator, 2(3) literally means 2 multiplied by 3 in parenthesis, multiplication and division are on the same level of operation so it's 36 divided by 2 multiplied by 3, you don't even need parenthesis

>>385438142
>the first thing you have to deal with
Is things INSIDE parenthesis.
Which is only 3.
So we resolve (3) first
(3) = 3
So 2(3) becomes 2 * 3
Then we do exponents, which leaves us with
36 / 2 * 3 + 4
Multiplication has no priority over division, so we go left to right
36 / 2 = 18
18 * 3 + 4
18 * 3 = 54
Now that all multiplication and division is done left to right, we do addition and subtraction left to right.
54 + 4 = 58

>>385438281
but it isn't (outside your head)

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>>385437726
5 warrior sneks for when you need to kill everything in your way

>>385438326
It plops out. The answer is always A.

Cube never moves, portal moves space around the cube. Bfags are literally /b/fags.

>>385438368
Those signs stand out so they are still there after applying PEMDAS. It's tricky for young kids because the multiplication of the 2 and 3 isn't obvious until later math courses.

>>385438453
This is correct. I have a masters in accounting.

>>385438419
It would shoot off.

>>385438518
>>385438419
No, it's obviously fucking B you cretins, because the exit portal doesn't move (relative to its surroundings), so logically it must be the cube that moves (relative to its surroundings).

>>385438558
I would shoot you.

>>385438345
they're the same exact thing. By rule they can be done at the same time as you would do it. PEMDAS is shit and you can easily derive to an incorrect conclusion due to shitty shitty American teaching a very basic algebraic rule to kids who don't understand how algebra works. They came up with this imperfect thing and introduce you ONLY problems that support the concept of PEMDAS.

The reality is that Parenthesis can be done the same time as exponents.
Multiplication can be done the same time as division.

Addition can be done the same time as subtraction.

>>385438453
Please unironically commit suicide. You're dumber than 90% of 12 year olds.

>>385438392
if retards did knew they'd (hopefully) be less eager to show it off to everyone. That's the way with most things.

>>385438102

This is wrong. The answer is 3.6

Since it is 6*2/ 2(3) + 4, you must interpret that everything after the division symbol

the right way to write this is


6*2
----------
2(3) + 4

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>>385438326
This is true, at least for the ÷ symbol.

>be in this thread
>see all these people who think it's 10

I didn't realize I was smarter than so many people.

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>>385436387

ITT pic related

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>>385438102

>>385438326
>thread is now two times as bad
good work

>>385438237
A formal order of operations (necessitated by the introduction of exponents) and formalized European algebra emerged around the same time in the 16th century, but algebraic concepts had been studied by cultures around the world since the Babylonians some three millennia earlier.

>>385438558
>>385438612
but the cube never moves

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What now

>>385438449
Yes you do to specify whether it is attached to the denominator or is it in itself a numerator.

>>385438696
Objective complete :^)

Now who'd like to guess what's behind door number two, goat or car?

>>385438612
Speedy thing goes in speedy thing goes out
the cube was not speedy thing so it maintains it's (lack of) inertia

>>385437178
>>385437114
>>385436753
>>385436802
>>385436803
>>385437185
>>385437354
Did anyone on /v/ graduate from middle school? This is basic shit. You do operations with the same precedence from left to right. It's 2(3) not (2*3), so you do NOT multiply them first. The answer is 58.

I'm embarrassed that there are so many people telling >>385436580 what an idiot he is.

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>>385438275
It's how you've written it, anon.

>>385438612
>because the exit portal doesn't move (relative to its surroundings), so logically it must be the cube that moves (relative to its surroundings).
Wormholes bend space. A portal is a wormhole. The cube doesn't move, the portal bends space around the cube. I don't see how an object with 0 inertia suddenly gains instant momentum because something moved around it.
/b/fags need to die

reminder that the equation is stupid because it's structured in such a way as to be misleading. If you really want division first, you put the 6 squared over the 2 and put both of those next to the parenthesis.
being an obfuscating asshole doesnt make you clever.

>>385438750
Uh oh

>>385438728
>>385438773
Cube is speedy relative to the portal, so it has to stay speedy relative to the portal or it would be crushed in the nothing between the two portals.

>>385438785
He wrote it exactly the way the problem is laid out.

>>385438645
There's no 6*2, you fucking brake of evolution.

please dont touch anything has a little bit of math

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>>385436387
>telesci
>math
Nigger that's like calling Gordon Ramsey a fry cook.

>>385438783
I'm sorry your dumb

>>385438645
>>385436840


Funny that only 2 anons got it right and no one else notice them

Says alot of this website

>>385438814
>equation
STOP FUCKING STOP

WHERE DO YOU SEE AN EQUALITY SIGN THERE

FUCKING AMERICANS

>>385438750
>58fags will ignore this

>>385438785
The right way?

Unlike yours, where a parenthesis plop out of your ass

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>all these PAMDAS niggers ITT
OH
MY FUCKING
GOD
THE RULE FOR DEALING WITH PARENTHESIS IS SOLVING
INSIDE
THE FUCKING PARENTHESIS
INSIDE
NOT SIDE
NOT NEXT
INSIDE
WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH WITH IT
YOU DO THE E NOT STICK AROUND WITH FUCKING P

>>385438750
I love these casios

>>385438901
you're sorry my dumb what?

>>385438687
I did this pic:
>>385438102

Yes you are correct about that. because it is written like shit it is up to how you even interpret it. It isn't written in a clear format.

>>385438909
if you cant recognize an implicit equals, you can just leave the gene pool. The fuck do you want me to do with the problem, not solve it?

>>385438858
Relativity is bullshit

>>385436387
This expression shows why the division symbol is haram in top level math.

58 is the actual answer, but the retarded notation makes it look like the answer should be 10.

>>385438618
>can be done at the same time

Bro, it completely changes the answer depending on which order you do them, though. I get what you're saying, multiplication and division are in the same priority, but in THIS case you would do division first as you should go from left to right once you're in the same priority tier. You can't "do them at the same time". One of them has to be resolved first.

>>385438769
have you opened an empty door yet?

>>385438969
>being this dumb

>>385438931
But it isn't plopped out. it is specifying how it is supposed to be written. The problem is shit.

>>385438783
2(3) is the same as (2*3), you cumsnot.
It's another way to show that you have to calculate 2*3 before anything else, it's basic math. I'm surprised you don't wipe your ass with your palms based on how fucked up you are in your head.

>>385438785
Holy fuck you're dumb. You changed the equation and raised the precedence of 2*3 so of course the answer is 10 in this case. It shows that daytime /v/ is full of useless NEETS (i.e., didn't finish school, no mathematical skills) and kids skipping school.

>>385436387
It's obviously 10.

36 ÷ 6 + 4 = 10

>>385438997
Interesting. So there is a multi-verse?

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>>385438785
You're a fucking idiot.

Here, typed out exactly like it is in OP. There is no argument to this, you are wrong.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%C2%B2%C3%B72(3)%2B4

>>385439086
I'm surprised you even know enough about using computers to make it to this website

>>385437862
but that's untrue
PEMDAS

>>385439065

Ah, so YOU know how the problem should be written. Not anybody else, just ''you''

I,m really sorry, i was unaware that you were the maker of this

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this fucking thread is fun

>>385439086
In their defense, the problem is written out poorly so it can come out to 10 or 58.

>>385439017
Ah, yes, of course, I, the game show host, knowing where everything is, have revealed one goat among the two doors you did not pick. Now, would you like to switch to the remaining door, or stay with your choice?

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I hate this place.

>>385438858
>Cube is speedy relative to the portal
No it's not considering the portal is moving, the cube isn't.

>>385438785

Just doing what my math professor told us to do; do exponents first and then work left to right algebraically with the order of operations.

Parenthesis (3)=3
Exponents 6^2=36
Multiplication N/A
Division 36/2
Addition 54+4
Subtraction N/A

6^2=36

36/2=18

18*3=54+4=58

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>>385436580
OwO what's this?

>>385439003
Yes you can.

See the dividing? See the multiplying?

Do them in one step.

>>385437440
>Not using even more superior British BOMDAS
Scrub

>>385439079
No it is not, because you only calculate things INSIDE the parenthesis.
the 2 is not inside the parenthesis, ergo it is not involved at all with P.
The ONLY thing you do in P is evaluate (3), which is 3.

>>385439241
The portal is also not moving. Ergo, the cube is also moving. Only logical conclusion.

>>385439202
it only comes as 10 if you are retarded. Stop adding things to what is written.

Your perception don't matter

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>>385439227
i love you

>>385439253
6*6 is not the same as 6^2

It's just an issue of if you take implicit multiplication as a separate step or not.

Computers like
>>385439162
Generally by default do not, it's a setting you can turn on.

I would personally argue that since X(Y) is not written in the form X * (Y) it MUST mean something different to X * (Y) otherwise being written that way is meaningless and therefore would put implicit multiplication before explicit in this case.

10.

>>385439162
wolfram has problems with problems exactly like this though. Anyone in college can tell you that.

>>385439224
stay
the chance of winning is still 1/3

>>385439253
not the same notation
notation is the entire crux of this threads argument

>>385439245
>lol let me ignore everyone who corrected me multiple times

>>385439347
Mind blown

Fucking imbeciles

>>385439325
>The portal is also not moving.
That's fucking wrong. The portal slams into the cube. It's literally drawn out in the fucking problem. The cube never moves.

>>385439374

The only thing experiencing problems right now is your brain.

Is it impossible for you to simply stand back and realise when you are being a dumb retard?

>>385439347
and 2*4 is not the same as 8
but they are equal

>>385439189
It is the way to naturally associate the problem. the 2(3) can easily be interpreted as one number just as the divisor symbol. Because of this... the 6^2/(2(3)) can easily be applied. But again this comes to the fundamental problem that the divisor symbol makes you think of those numbers as being separate when in essence they are the same number.

((6^2)/(2(3)))
Single. Number. There is no other way to interpret it.

>>385439406
Which means a 2/3 chance of losing.

>>385436387
6^2 / 2(3) + 4
= 6^2 / 6 + 4
= 36 / 6 + 4
= 6 + 4
= 10
Remember kids, the order is Brackets/Parenthesis, then Exponents, then Multiplication and Division, then Addition and Subtraction, left to right.

>>385439481
This.
How can 58fags even breath?

>>385439406
Nope. You switch.
Here's another example:
There are a million doors. Every door except for ONE has a car behind it.
You chose a door at first, you have a 1 in a million chance to win.
Then, the host opens every door except for yours and one other, all the doors he opens are goats. If you switch, it's now a 1/2 chance, if you stay with your initial choice, it is one in a million.

Math rules are fucking stupid

>>385439347
I would screencap thus but I'm just too lazy.

>>385439245
>18*3=54+4=58

That's wrong, you fucking mong.
18*3 is 54, where did you get the +4 from? You even suck at writing down the ways you calculated your shit, no wonder you're too retarded to read 2(3) correctly.

I bet my ass all those fags who claim it's 10 are dumb Americunts

>>385439079
>2(3) is the same as (2*3)
No, it's literally not. There is no operator inside the parentheses, the multiplication operator is outside. There's a single number there and nothing else. As there is no operator in the parentheses, there is no mathematical operation to prioritize, as such the operations are carried out according to their precedence from the left to the right.

>>385439253
>6*6
you are now the person I'm most mad at itt
O∆O

>>385437470
doesn't simply the 2(3) first

no wonder 58fags are retarded

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>there are people on /v/ right now who trust what some computer program says over their own critical thinking

>>385439492
It's not wrong. It's objectively verifiably correct. You're simply ignoring half the problem because that makes it easier, but look, where the cube exits the portal, that is not a moving portal. It is undeniable.

>>385439576
You do not evaluate 2(3) as part of parenthesis.
You only evaluate (3), since 2 is not inside the parenthesis.
So 2(3) becomes 2 * 3 during parenthesis/brackets and then is ignored until the multiplication and division stage.

>>385438345
>>385439003
No it doesn't change the answer because then it'd be 36/2 then divided by 3.
You see, it's always 36 divided by the multiplicands of the divisor no matter what. You can divide by 6 or 2 and 3 separately. IT doesn't really matter which way you do it.
But 6^2 is never multiplied by either one. How would you even choose which one to do?

Concerning PEMDAS:

Multiplications and divisions are the same thing. 3 x (1/2) = 3 / 2, 3 x 2 = 3 / (1/2)
Additions and substractions are the same time. 3 - 2 = 3 + (-2), 3 + 2 = 3 - (-2)
There's no such thing as multiplications being done before divisions or additions being done before substractions, they're all done at the same time.

Have a nice day.

>>385439267
How?

We have:

36/2(3)

Either you 36/2 * 3 = 54 or you 36/6 = 6

In one case you divided first, and in the other case you multiplied first. How can you "do them at the same time"

>>385438750
i thought the answer was 10, because my community college dropout brain thought that 2(3) gets solved first
but why did I think that, and why does this calculator think that
is there a math rule on this?

I got ten but I never was good at math.

>>385439654
Dumbass
>>385439507
This nig gets it. They're equal, but phrasing can change the equation depending on placement.

>>385438750
time to get a new calculator bud

>>385439079
a(b) means a*(b), not (a*b)

>>385439535
weird, because there are PLENTY of people in this very thread who didn't associate it like that. Strangely, those people got the right answer, while you didn't. It's almost as if the problem here isn't the number but you.

>>385439747
You are now

>>385439686
underrated post.

>>385436387
Wolfenstein The New Order when you crack the Enigma Codes for special game modes

>>385439668
2(3) means the same as 2X where X = 3.
You don't separate implicit multiplication, you simplify it out as part of it's existance.

>>385439576
Wait shit I fucked up.
= 36 / 2(3) + 4
= 18 x 3 + 4
= 54 + 4
= 58

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This equation feels like a bad case of this. Also videogames.

Let's write without the parentheses because it seems to be throwing people off.

6^2/2*3+4

It's simple... Left to right is how you solve it. The answer is 58.

And yes, division and multiplication have equal priority (same as addition and subtraction). In the case of equal priority, you solve from left to right. That's how people have agreed to do it.

>>385439684
But why do you do that first? 2(3) is just 2*3

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The question is unclear

2(3) is the same thing as 2 * 3

how is this even an argument?

2(3) is the equivalent of 2x, which is the quivalent of 2 * x, with x being 3.

if i told you to solve for x in the equation 6^2 / 2x + 4, the first thing anyone with a brain would do is turn 2x into 6

>>385439730
There is no rule, it's a bad way to write the problem, calculators have 2 settings, implicit high priority or normal priority to make up for that fact.

His one is high, wolfram is normal.

High makes more sense.

>>385439669
(´･ω･`)

>>385439694
That's completely wrong. The cube never moves so it gains no speed. That's all there is to it.

>>385439875
where? also why did you post that image that has no bearing since there are added parenthesis?

>>385439709
If you only evaluate (3), it becomes 23 because the parenthesis go away after evaluating

>>385439374
>Anyone in college can tell you that
I learned that the hard way, years ago.

62÷ 2(3) +4

I'm not even sure if this will appear properly, but the symbols for equations as we know them, are not recognized universally by computers, which is what causes so many problems with calculations.

>>385439780
You're right, my mistake.

>>385439786
thats because everyone fucking learns shitty pemdas that doesn't apply in any level of higher math. PEMDAS is literally for kids who don't understand how algebra fundamentals work to help them memorize something. At higher levels it's thrown out the window for being complete shit.

>>385437508
Notice how MD and AS are the same respective colours. They have equal priority and are done in order of left to right. Retard.

>>385439730
Yes. Do parenthesis first, then exponents, then multiplication and division, then addition and subtraction. When you have multiplication and division (or addition and subtraction) at the same time, solve from left to right.

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>>385439826
2X where X = 3 is the same as 2*3.
It's 2, X times, where X is 3.
So 2, 3 times.

Christ

Jesus Christ MODSSSS! FUCK THIS FUCKING BOARD

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>>385439662

t. uneducated american

>>385436387
calculate 6^2, then we divide by 2, then multiply by 3, and finally add 4= 58
Are Americunts really this dumb?

Can /v/ solve this?

2(2)^2

>>385440086
16

>>385440086
8

>>385440086
16 no?

>>385439492
>>385439694
>>385439949
The portal issue is about relative velocity, the cube has high relative velocity to the portal.

But this is not a problem that exists in real life so we have no point of reference. Therefore we can't say if it should maintain that difference as it exits the portal or maintain it's velocity relative to the planet.

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10. I feel so smart.

>>385439684
It's not (2*3); It's 2(3).

>>385440086
8

>>385439862
>>385439897
PEMDAS you niggers. if it was straight up times(x) you'll end up with 58 which you would be right


36 / 2 then x 3 then add the 4 = 58

>>385440086
8

>>385439949
From one perspective, the cube was already moving, so it doesn't need to gain speed. The question then becomes, what's stopping it?

>>385436387
The problem in the image ought to be thrown in the trash. it's Ambiguous.

Can be taken as (6^2/6) + 4
or (6^2/2)*3+4

Get these shit "problems" outta 'ere. These things trigger me because everyone thinks they're hot shit.

>>385440143
You are smart :)

>>385440086
8

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>>385436387
As people pointed out, Parenthesis only take priority as to what is inside of them, not what's multiplying by it.

You could write this equation as 6^2 / 2 * (3) + 4 and it would be the same.

Strictly speaking if you stuck to convention like a robot you would evaluate it as ((6^2)/2)*3 + 4=58. If you were to read it like a human being with a reasonable idea of what the author meant, you'd likely take it to mean (6^2)/(2*3)+4=10.

People who say it's 10 because of PEDMAS etc. are retarded though

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>>385440086

2(2)^2
Parenthesis are evaluated first, so this is equivalent to 2((2)^2).

Simplified:
2(4), which is THE SAME AS 2*4.

8.

>>385440086

8

>>385440183
If I slam your head into the wall, did the wall move to hit you?

2(3) != (2*3)

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>>385440187
>it's Ambiguous
That's why PEDMAS exists you fucking retard.

>>385437069
>>385436580
>>385436683

Stupid fucking niggers typed 6^2 / 2(3) + 4 into google search and got 58, not knowing that they multiplied 18 by 3.

This actually explains alot about /v/.

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>Lo^2

>>385440138
>the cube has high relative velocity to the portal.
No it doesn't. The cube has no velocity relative to the moving portal. It comes out on the other side because the universe is being warped around it, that's how wormholes work, that's what portals are.

The cube literally never moves, the portal moves around the cube. There's no force behind the portal so it has nothing to force the cube and give it velocity.

The answer is A.

>>385440257
I think I'd trust a robot to evaluate expressions over a human

>>385440149
You hypernigger, that's the same fucking thing for this equation.

>>385439725
>There's no such thing as multiplications being done before divisions or additions being done before substractions, they're all done at the same time.

They are solved in order from left to right. It's not possible to "do them at the same time". Holy fuck how are people this retarded. Is this bait?

>>385439897
That's not how it works. 2x is indeed 2 * x, but /2x is 1/2 * x. It would need to be /(2x) for that to be 1/(2x).

>>385436387
>Using ÷ EVER
The only reason this symbol exists is for creating ambiguous math problems to troll /v/. Proper math doesn't use this symbol for a reason.

>>385439897
It's been well over decade since i've done basic math. but some vague memory that 2(3) is basically 2(+3) which becomes 2+3? or the two positives kill each other and it's 2-3? i don't know i'm probably confusing that with something else plus beer.

6 squared divided by 2 (times 3) plus 4

36 divided by 6 plus 4

6 plus 4 = 10

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>spot the subhumans
>the bait

>>385440381
you're right anon i screwed up!

>>385440279
>>385440271
>>385440226
>>385440151
>>385440151
>>385440130
>americans

>>385440337
syntax error

>>385440086
It's 8. The 2 is multiplied to the second power, then the 4 is multiplied by 2.

>>385437638
but both of those equal 7

>>385440429
So whats the answer?

>>385440228
the way Wolfram wrote it actually writes the problem in such a way that there is no ambiguity.

I'd personally write it as (6^2*3)/2 + 4.

>>385440183
>From one perspective, the cube was already moving
From what perspective? The second portal? This isn't about relativity. A portal links two points in the universe together. Moving one portal just changes that point. The cube was never moving in any perspective, the portal was always just getting closer to the cube.

>>385438363
You don't know how to properly input mathematical models into a computer. Fuck off.

>there's idiots in this thread who never went to school and never saw equations of the format x(y+z)=x*y+x*z.

Kill yourself if you think it's 58.

>>385437715
No it doesn't. It can also be x as a function of y.

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let's get this settled
https://strawpoll.com/6px255wc

>>385440449
I'm American I got 16 is that the right one?

>>385440187
>Can be taken as (6^2/6) + 4

No, because that would be incorrect as you solved multiplication before exponents and didn't move left to right when solving multiplication and division.

>(6^2/2)*3+4

This will give the correct answer.


It's not ambiguous, you're just uneducated.

>>385440312
https://math.berkeley.edu/~gbergman/misc/numbers/ord_ops.html

This is a variation of the same issue. But go ahead, argue against math professors.

>>385440362
I don't think you understand math really well if you believe doing it from left to right or right to left makes any difference. It's about the symbols and the priorities.

>>385440561
>x(y+z)=x*y+x*z
And how exactly does that apply to the expression in the OP

>>385440534
Hey there mongoloid. Don't reply to your betters

>>385440425
>2(3) is basically 2(+3) which becomes 2+3?
That's wrong in literally every sense.
2(3) becomes 2*3, not 2+3.

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You really can tell when america is awake.

>>385440284
If you stick your head through a portal and the portal moves to a wall, did the wall move to hit you? Because you didn't move, did you?

>>385440521
>From what perspective? The second portal?
And everything beyond it, yes. Imagine the whole universe stands still and a cube enters into it. Relative to anything else you choose you have to conclude that the cube moved.

>>385440330

6^2=36/2=18*3=54+4=58

>>385440449

2(2)^2 = 2 *(2)(2) = 2*2*2=8

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>>385440646
Is this bait

>>385436387
Knights of the Old Republic and its sequel both have at least one terminal that requires some algebra.

also, Im going to say its 10 because PEMDAS dictates that multiplication does in fact take precedence over division

>>385440312
PEMDAS doesn't apply to that retarded division sign

It's 58 ya dummies

I'm a math major stop arguing

What country do I move to to stop being a dumb American?

>>385440592
Wow this is stupid even for /v/

>>385440335
>The cube has no velocity relative to the moving portal.
So the portal is stationary?
Ignore the rest of the universe, all you know is that the two are coming together at high speed, not which one is moving.

>>385440715
Are you talking about video games on a math forum?

>>385440663
2(3)=2*(3)=2*3=6
Obviously there's idiots in this thread who are too dumb to get this.

>>385440725
>math major
>knowing anything about arithmetic
lmao go back to your galois groups faggot

>>385440663
6^2/2 * 3 + 6^2/2 * 4 you uneducated simpleton

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>>385440449
Go and ignore it like >>385438750

>>385440696
>and the portal moves
You just put the answer you shit

>>385436387
2(3) is just a convenient way of writing 2*(3), it doesn't carry any sense of priority. if you wanted to divide by 2*3 you'd have to write (2(3)) but I don't even know why you'd put parenthesis around 3

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>>385440630
x/y(z) isn't the same thing as x÷y(z).
>>385440724
Idiot.

>>385440705
Learn how to write equations, faggot.

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>>385440725
>math major

>>385440663
A÷(B+C) = A÷B + A÷C

Retard fuckface. You get 10.

Are there/have there been any instances where this order of operations bullshit has actually mattered in a real world scenario?

I'd imagine some precautions would be taken to avoid ambiguity, but then I remember shit like that one rocket or whatever that crashed because one team was working in metric and the other in imperial

>>385440710
I just explained to you why the direction you read doesn't matter, it's because of the equivalences between the symbols. Are you retarded?

>>385440809
>So the portal is stationary?
Which portal are we talking about? There's "2" portals, one entrance and one exit.

>all you know is that the two are coming together at high speed, not which one is moving
But that's wrong. In the problem it's illustrated that one portal is on a moving platform that slams into the cube. That cube never once moved positions, the portal did.

>>385440696
>Imagine the whole universe stands still and a cube enters into it. Relative to anything else you choose you have to conclude that the cube moved.
No, because with the way wormholes work(theory but still) the portal/the universe was warped to move around that cube.

>>385440646
You're an idiot. Left to right is how we have agreed to solve problems. It's a formatting issue, not a mathematical one, and formatting is arbitrary. But we need to agree on a format so that we understand each other. However, that apparently hasn't helped in the case of this thread.

>>385440943
R u a SpongeBob major neet boy?

>>385440891
What are you on about.
48/2(9+3) simplifies to 48/2(12)

that's the same form of ambiguous expression as the OP image.

>>385440646
> if you believe doing it from left to right or right to left makes any difference

It literally changes the outcome of the math.
see:
>>385439727

>>385440985
but in this case it's A÷B+(C) retard

>>385441016
None of this matters in the real world for most people. One could say it helps develop the logical part of your brain, but that's pretty much that.

>>385438102
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with the division sign, you apply it to the following term and that's it. 2 and (3) are separate terms with an invisible multiplication sign between them.

>>385440705
6^2=36/2=18*3=54+4=58

Exactly. That's wrong. If someone wanted that, they would put brackets around 36/2.

Holy fuck Americans are brain dead. No wonder you ended up with Trump and Hillary - fucking invalids.

>>385440868
You don't seem to understand the implications. You're standing still. Your heading is sticking out of a moving portal. Why isn't your head standing still? What would that even look like? It's not possible. So instead your head must be assumed to move with the portal which furthermore implies that movement relative to the portal is translated into absolute movement in proportion to the speed of the portal upon crossing the threshold. Or, speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out. Which means that if something comes out of a stationary portal (note the verb expressing movement), then that something has to move relative to the portal.

>>385440891
Show me definitions for those two operators in actual math books and explain to me how they function differently

>>385439826
There is no real mathematical operation called "implicit multiplication" since the operation is simply "multiplication" and as such always operates by the same rules. The implicit part is simply notation for convenience's sake when using variables as writing the explicit operator is unnecessary, it doesn't change the properties of the actual operation, turning it into something else which doesn't actually exist. In reality I've never seen anything which doesn't use fractions when required in order to avoid this sort of confusion though.

It never ceases to amaze me how yuropoors don't know about pemdas. It's elementary shit.

This is a bad written question and everyone who argues about it are idiots. This is the same shit we had with 48/2(9+3).

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>>385441049
>it's because of the equivalences between the symbols

Math is done from left to right. If you don't do this, it doesn't matter about equivalence of symbol. You don't get to pick whether you do multiplication or division first. You work them from left to right. If you don't, it changes the answer and you will be incorrect. Are you fucking retarded?

>>385440891
Yes, though the article is referring to a question that originally had a divisor symbol.

>>385441217
OBSESSED

x=3
6^2 / 2x + 4
Does this make a difference?

>>385441187
Terms are only separated by addition or subtraction. 2*3 is a single term.

>>385441097
It didn't because 36/2(3) is the equivalent of 36 * (1/2) * 3. In that case, it make LITERALLY no difference if you read from left to right or right to left. You didn't read the symbols correctly and because of that, you've shown that you don't know basic mathematics.

>>385440891
You would put brackets around (x/y) if you wanted z to be multiplied to the entire thing.

>>385441296
That's still 10.

>>385441296
No but this does
6^2 / 2 * x + 4

>>385436387
>lo^2
What did he mean by this?

>>385441296
It's still ambiguous and people will keep arguing over this non-problem

>>385436387
I think they recently made the "obelus" (division sign) the same as the way fractions are handled because it's annoying to program and extra behavior for a never used symbol.
I noticed google adds three sets of parenthesis to the equation when you use it. Don't use the obelus symbol because it's ambiguous garbage that has changed usage before.

The chances are 2/3 so you switch doors.

>>385441298
Yeah, you're right, I'm getting my terms mixed up now. I don't know what to actually call it then, but my point still stands.

>>385441396
lolo and behold

>>385441272
>If you don't, it changes the answer and you will be incorrect.
And I'm telling you it doesn't change the answer you fucking retard. Show me an example of why it doesn't work and I'll explain why you're wrong.

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>>385441086
So what if I am? It doesn't make you smarter or better than me. My knowledge is just as valid as yours.

>>385441230
>then that something has to move relative to the portal.
Portal links two points in space. Space is being bent to put the cube through the portal. Relativity is irrelevant, everything the portal is next to, it's on, doesn't matter, because all of that is being moved around the cube.

Honest question

Why do we need math when have calculators, phones and computers to help us? What's the point of it?

>>385441089
No. Your problem is using "/" which is what makes it ambiguous. Some could read it as a fraction with everything to the right of it being on the bottom of the equation[48/(2(9*3)] and some could read it as just being a division of 48/2.
"÷" is used to specifically mean the second case.

>>385441404
Is ((6^2)/(2*3))+4=y still ambiguous? That's the equation in the OP the way it's read correctly. Y is 10.

>>385440143
You should feel smart! Your answer was wrong but don't let that get in the way of feeling good about yourself!

>>385439595
after many :thinking:s I think I've been convinced

>>385441638
Good thing 2(3) isn't the same as (2*3)