>my i3 from 2015 can't play 4K uncompressed videos but

>>385401573
those both look like shit

Specifically optimized for the PS4 hardware. The reason why all those "$400 console killer" PC builds are garbage. The different parts provide a variety of variables that make a game not run as well on better hardware.

And I'm a PCfag too

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>>385401638

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This a secret screenshot thread?

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>>385402207
was that supposed to change my opinion?

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>>385401573
Next time you post a 4k image please have the correct image compression and filesize.

Lots of cheating with alpha resolution, LoD, and texture filtering since you can't tell the difference on a couch away from the TV, vs. being in front of a 4K monitor.

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>>385402379
>1080p
>Looks worse than average horizon screenshot
kek

>>385402379
When you get near trees Horizon looks 100x better
>>385402530
This picture makes me want marry Aloy

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Why are these threads always Witcher/Horizon? Post other games.

>>385402950
quit playing games with my heart

>>385403019
which game?

>>385401573
because it's not native 4k

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I notice at least 10 different interesting things on the Horizon.

>>385401946
/thread

When you develop for a fixed platform (or semi-fixed with regular/pro dichotomy), you can optimized better. PC games have to work with a wide array of CPUs/GPUs and such are less optimized. But PC hardware in most decent gaming rigs are a generation or two ahead of consoles so it still looks 15-20% better.

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>>385403104
Final Fantasy XIV

>>385403019
Because your game has shit assets that look bad even at 1080p upon closer inspection.

>>385403229
It looks pretty, Not everything has to be a glorified flora simulator

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>>385403260
It's texturing and lighting model are fucking embarassing.

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>>385403019
What threads?

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>>385401573

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>>385403316
Yet it stills looks pretty
>>385403352
That's neat

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>>385403316
>this triggers the Carmack

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>>385403389
>Yet it stills looks pretty
It reminds you it was a PS3 game at every opportunity even on the highest settings.

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>>385403502
And PS3 games can look pretty.

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>>385403591
the gun looks alright but the concrete texture is disgustingly bad

>>385403352
Every single modern game does this. Why do you post this shitty .webm in every thread?

>>385403337
plz aloy be my ai gf

>>385403674
KZ2's assets are good quality, but the issue is (like many mid-gen PS3 games) was that anisotrophic filtering was rarely used, so details get murdered at extreme angles.

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>>385403720
>Every single modern game does this
>They don't
What did he mean by this?

>>385401946
Genuine question cause I don't really understand how PC parts affect each other and so on.
I can easily understand the principle of how a game being developed and optimized for a closed hardware like a console can run and look better than the same game made for a wide range of combinations due to all the variables involved, but then why it is that my "$500 console killer" pc build can indeed play games better at higher resolutions and settings compared to the same games on console?
>inb4 specs
they're literally the same as the Potato Masher Pro since i used those as reference ending up getting the exact same parts, I think the only difference is a different brand for the RAM

>>385403720
Most modern games don't bother with LoD/Objects in the distance when you zoom in on them. GTA5 probably cheating there by the zoom physically moving the game camera with it so it knows what to work with in range.

>>385401573
>but my 2012 APU can play fake 4K games
fixed

>>385402605
Horizon will never be good.

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>>385403674
I've never really been bothered my bad textures if the game still looks nice.

My $200 laptop can play pirated Fallout NV on low settings pretty well. I don't think it even has a graphics card.

People who say they need to play that game on console are kidding themselves. Any PC can play it.

>>385403893
I still don't know why more games don't use precalculated physics for making shit explode like Episode 2 did without any framerate hitches or high CPU demand.

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>>385403893
conversely good texture work can make a game still look good even after the models have become aged and outdated

>>385401573
Because (((intel))) intentionally doesn't let you so you're more tempted to buy an i5 or i7. Just look at that retarded shit with netflix in 4K.

>>385404147
Clean textures in general age well. Unlike titles such as RE4 or Silent Hill 2 which went for dirtier/grittier textures which disallowed them to tile them as easily as Max Payne did there without repeating patterns showing in the intentional imperfections.

>>385404147
Use widescreen fix for fuck sake.

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>>385404305
>re4
but we're in luck there, the power of autistic dedication will perfect that game for all of time

>>385404397
All that does is make the low polygonal environments stand out even more.

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>>385404517
good thing they're basically remaking the game while they're at it then, even optimizing the file structures to make it easier for future modders now too

>>385404517
not really, the environments are still solid looking despite being over a decade old and they're also re-doing props and shit where applicable. Even the lighting they're tweaking as well.

Of course it's all down to personal discretion and you may just want to stick with the classic textures which is cool; I'll give it the final release a playthrough and hold judgement till then but so far it does look very faithful and accurate.

>>385404397
Fan shit will always look terrible. They can remake textures but it will look like a horrible mishmash of clashing art styles.

>>385404517
No it doesn't. How can you say such an incorrect thing?

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>>385404632
you underestimate their autism anon

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>>385403889
Because it is forever great.

>>385404586
this shit is insane; most fan HD texture packs are garbage and either have textures that are just photo-sourced and barely resemble the original or they flat out just blow the original texture up and slap fucktons of filters on it (which never looks good, no matter how much work you put into it) but they actually recreated the fucking brown stain patterns accurately.

>>385403808
>why it is that my "$500 console killer" pc build can indeed play games better at higher resolutions and settings compared to the same games on console
Not the anon you replied to but I just checked Amazon and PS4 is $285 so why exactly wouldn't a PC almost twice as expensive play the games better?

>>385404724
Did they locate the origin of the rock texture IRL? kek

>>385404724
And you underestimate the amount of thought that goes into designing the areas. You already posted a picture in which the whole color scheme is altered, which undermines the whole atmosphere and coherency of that particular area.

>>385403490
Rage was ahead of its time graphically; it still looks amazing to this day but of course the texture resolution was fucking awful on a lot of things. Too bad the story was completely non-existent because that game was actually pretty damn fun.

>>385404731
Next up is fixing teeth rendering since it looks weird in both Horizon and RE7.

The closer we get to photorealism the more things tend to stick out. Must be aggravating for the artists.

>>385404859
...that's just the source of the rock texture, it's not what it looks like ingame.

>>385404859
It's a reference photo you absolute retard

>>385402530
>that shit quality water
>that draw distance
>fog already starts at 20 meters to hide the ugly
lmao

>>385404891
I like megatextures in theory, but you can't just bank on it alone due to filesize required. Good luck getting unique normal maps made of all the hand-painted textures in the environment.

Better off doing it UE1 style where you just layer textures and place detail textures/decals on top to mask tiling and to help make parts of a map more diverse looking.

>>385404921
>>385404927
fuck.

>>385402950
That man face, omg

>>385404891
>Rage was ahead of its time graphically
Wrong, it had pisspoor graphics for its time. The only thing technically impressive was megatextures, which is debatable if it's even a good thing, since all textures end up looking like low res trash.

>>385405002
Yeah, I think Doom2016 fared a lot better in general than Rage or Wolfenstein did but it'll probably be a while before the true strength of the engine can be utilised.

>UE1

I've actually been playing Unreal again and the shit they achieved is insane when compared to other games that era. The draw distances alone it could achieve is amazing. The detail textures were fucking amazing tech and it's sad that it's not really used anywhere else much.

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would you have sexual relations with Aloy?

>>385404821
Because I buil this pc at the start of this year and I said the specs are the same as the Potato Masher Pro, which is capable of 4K gaming and thus competes(in this comparison of course) not against the PS4 but against the PS4 Pro, which is $400, and can't do real 4K or 60 fps.
I'm not gonna say my pc can play any and all games at max settings 4K 60fps because it can't, but it sure performs better than the PS4 Pro in the games that are both on it and PC

>>385405163
at the very least id tech 6 optimizes like a fucking monster, game never dipped below 120 FPS at launch on direct X and with patches its a steady 144 on ultranightmare settings all day and Vulkan is on another level altogether

>>385405162
>Wrong

subjective opinion m8

although I'll concede that it couldn't contend overall with shit like Crysis 2 or Battlefield 3...it's definitely better looking than Human revolution (which had great environment design but character models were atrociously bad) or Saints Row 3.

(obv I'm comparing it to games released the same year)

>>385405285
Yeh I was amazing at how well it ran on my GTX760; only thing I had to tweak was actual resolution since higher settings ran as well as the lower ones did

>>385405163
I wish DOOM 2016 didn't use megatextures. That game shouldn't have been 88gb for how often it reused textures, defeating the purpose of megatextures in the first place.


>>385405163
I don't know why detail textures died off, since you'd only fade them in when you get beyond a stretched texel distance of a texture. It's low resource, and lets you add more 'texture' to an object.

>>385405638
>88gb

I do fucking hate that. christ even CoD lets me download multi and singleplayer seperately

I'd be willing to blame consoles for the death of detail textures since the FoV is often so low that you couldn't get up close to shit to see them in action anyway.

>>385403175
I really wish XIV wasn't so MMO'ish so I could actually like it

>>385405638
Detail textures were mostly used to cheaply cover up low res textures. Nowadays textures are generally good enough to do without them.

>>385406052
>Nowadays textures are generally good enough to do without them.
Are we playing the game games?

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>>385405218
Her facial structure reminds me of Jimmy Hopkins. The makeup helps a bit, but she's still a manface.

>>385401573
Your i3 can upscale stuff too.

>>385404741
Thats nothing, you should see the castle.

>>385406098
Probably not since I rarely ever notice really low res textures in modern games (I play on PC exclusively).

>>385405264
>but it sure performs better than the PS4 Pro in the games that are both on it and PC
Care to post performance comparisons?

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>>385406383

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>>385406681
>>385406383

>>385406681
delicia

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>>385402605
>Looks worse than average horizon screenshot
How can you tell when Horizon has fog covering the screen in most pics?

>>385403141
Is it those mountains from Fallout New Vegas? Because I noticed those too.

>>385401946
If you stick to the products with the most market share you wouldn't hurt too bad.

>>385406681
UMA

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>>385401573
>$400 extra for slightly less muddy textures

>>385404260
This shit isn't 4K, stop spreading garbage information, consolefop.

>>385407754
Where in my post did I imply horizon was real 4K? Horizon is checkerboard nonsense.

>>385401573
My 2008 CPU can play 4K footage. It's paired with a 2011 GPU

>>385407754
>making a big deal over 200p difference
grow up kid

>>385407968
That's funny, since Sony fans were the ones creaming themselves whenever a Xbox One game was announced to be 900p.

my g4560 can play 4k 60fps with integrated gpu

>>385408014
it's a big deal when the res is that low, ever heard of diminishing returns kiddo?

>>385403839
How much detail gets rendered is determined by the size on the screen, not the distance from the camera. It doesn't move the camera there either, since the perspective would change. Also, that's not GTA5.

>>385401573
Wtf are you on about? Any PC or semi-modern laptop that has intel HD 3000+ integrated graphics can play 4K videos fine. Any dedicated GPU that you can buy new plays 4K videos like it's nothing.

>>385408515
i have 2GB GT 840m and it cant play 4K videos

it plays low overwatch or medium gta 5 at 60 fps though

>>385402307
What game?

>>385408605
i-GPU's can play 4K videos buddy. Shitty "Smart" TV's can stream 4K videos. Displaying a pre-rendered or streaming video file and rendering a video game in real time are completely different things.

You are lying or the culprit is software or user error. If you have hardware that can play GTAV you can play 4K videos without question because it is 10 times easier to display a 4K video than to play fucking GTAV.

>>385408979
if anything I would suspect it's the network that's the bottleneck on video for him, I doubt he connects his laptop up on ethernet

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>>385402307
It is now.

>>385408104
Everything that isn't native looks blurry and shit. If you bought a 4K TV for your PS4 pro, you threw money out of window. Just the fact that the Xbone S HW upscaler matches it in quality, despite the way lower source resolution is a testament to it.