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>baby games what is wrong with them other than they're

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>baby games
what is wrong with them other than they're colorful?
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Whats wrong with colors?
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>>385362827
senpai, did you read the OP right?
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>>385362886
Yes.
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Only babies have the IQ to play them as constant use of twitter, memes, drug abuse, and fast food degrades the mind.
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>>385362638
Let's see...
-Two of them are WiiU ports
-Two of them are overpriced barebones releases with the other half of the game releasing throughout the year (marketed as "free DLC")
-No complaints about Mario. There are signs of few worlds, but we shall see.

All of that being said I don't see why you'd think being colorful is a problem, or why they are "baby games". 4 of them have genuine issues as Switch releases, no need to falseflag them with fake problems.
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>grown men play this
Really the ponyfuckers of our generation
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>>385362638
>port
>FOTW
>2 rehashes
>port

might as well watch MTV lads
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>>385362638
They're usually mechanically simple, thats not really an inherently bad quality but something I am personally unable to enjoy.
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>>385363278
That game was fun.
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>>385363208
>>385363336
that's not what the thread's about
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>>385363278
i need to play real man grown up games like horizon zero dawn, uncharted, and the order 1886

those are real manly games for grown ups like me and they have real graphics
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>>385363591
You're right
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>>385363591
don't forget knack
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>>385363691
i know, i'm always right
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>>385363591
>S-S-S-SONY!!!!
Every time.
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being for babies probably
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>>385362638
Nothing. /v/ will always move the goalposts and find a new reason to hate Nintendo because its a popular meme to hate them.
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>>385363691
ahhhh
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>>385363770
cry harder.
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>>385362638
>putting arms alongside actual good games

please have standards
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>>385362638
They only want realistic graphics, without any creativity
The true cancer of the industry
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>>385363770
show me where i said sony in that post
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>3 esports with horrific singleplayers, yet they charge full price
>a casual platformer that will not be any harder than an indie game like Braid
>a cinematic experience that runs at 30 FPS, if you're lucky

they're definitely not for people who have standards.
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>>385363574
How is it not?

OP asked what's wrong about the games other than their color saturation. Those posts gave reasons that are not related to color. Completely on topic
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>>385363995
nintendo games in general
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>>385363916
>Mario Kart
>eSports
>BoTW
>Cinematic
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>Before
>Buy game that looks like it was for kids
>It's not, there's skeletons, zombies, light blood and cool as fuck gameplay
>Now
>Buy game that looks like it's for kids
>It is for babbies
>I'ts not even a hard game
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>>385363770

IT'S OKAY WHEN
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>>385364146
ignore ACfag
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>>385363916
List off 5 of your favorite games at the moment.
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>>385363591
Horse fucker
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>>385363849
>this image is nearly a decade old
Damn.
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>>385363916
>literally any shooter on any current console
>game has to be hard to be good
>not even close to cinematic

please try to listen to my captcha in the future
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>>385364202
Alright fucker you need to go ahead and delete that right fucking now
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>>385364313
>Dwarf Fortress
>terraria
>FTL
>Gradius
>Hollow Knight

Any more?

>>385364479
>game has to be hard to be good
I like playing my games instead of watching them play themselves, you know. If you want a cinematic experience, go watch a movie.

>not even close to cinematic
What framerate does BOTW run at again?
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>>385363591
No need for exaggeration. There's plenty of middle ground between a game like WoolyWorld and a realistic game. If you don't see how someone may think WoolyWorld is "pushing" the cuteness factor a bit too much then you must be blind.
For example Gravity Rush, Metroid Prime, Zelda games, and JetSetRadio are all stylized and arguably cute in some aspects without going to a Yoshi extreme.

>>385363912
Every single game you mentioned is a Sony western first party title. It's like saying "Mario, Zelda and Metroid" and then being surprised when people point out you're talking about Nintendo,
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>>385363995
>it wasnt made specifically for this console is 2/3 of the arguments
>rehash only really applies to mario kart
>neither of these make them "baby games" or are really problems with the games themselves
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Soo all E rated games are for kids right
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>>385364632
Commit suicide, ACfag. DF is a shit game by the way.
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>>385364454
And nu/v/ continues to prove it right.
This ITS OK WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT meme is retarded because its only bad when Nintendo does it.
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>>385364697
remind me what E stands for
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>>385364772
Enema
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>>385364772
Euthanasia
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>>385364719
>DF is a shit game
t. mature gamer who needs muh realistic graphics and muh edgy gory violence
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>>385364772
it stands for nigger
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>>385364979
xD
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>Arms
Half the content of a fighting game with half the depth

>Splatoon
Online Shooter with online worse than FATBOX live

>MK8
Red shells have an incredibly high pick rate making matches samey

>Mario Odyssey
Exploring looks shit

>BotW
Rito village was shit/short
Pay for hard mode which is health sponge hard mode of all things

Nintendo being incompetent has more to do with it to be honest family
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>>385364968
No, just someone who doesn't pretend to enjoy garbage to feel like a cool elitist on the internet.
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>>385364968
This post translates to
>t.tryhard nerf who needs muh e-dick recognition for liking a video game without visuals
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>>385364632
i like a challenge, but it doesnt make every game that isnt a roguelike bad. and specfically you said "no harder than an indie game like braid" which i dont see how/why a AAA game would/should be harder than a game just because its indie

>framerate makes a game cinematic
im not going waste my time responding to an idiot again, this is self-explanatory. I play games exclusively on PC, too, but BOTW is one console game that actually looks fun and looks to have had effort put into it
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>>385365080
>Half the content of a fighting game
>more content than fighters this gen
Kek
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>>385364685
whats wrong with a cute game like that? you wouldnt happen to be insecure in your masculinity and adulthood, would you?
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>>385365319
whats funny
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>>385365319
What's the character roster comparison between Tekken and Arms?
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>>385364968
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Who's worse, Cody or ACfag?
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>>385365232
>>385365127
>this game is garbage
>"why"
>not enough graphics

Really making a compelling argument.

>>385365257
>i dont see how/why a AAA game would/should be harder than a game just because its indie
Because a company with billions of dollars and thousands of developers should be able to make a higher quality product than some pretentious californian hipster who programmed a piece of crap in his basement? Is that asking too much?

>BOTW is one console game that actually looks fun and looks to have had effort put into it
Then why doesn't it run at 60 FPS? Why did it need multiple day 1 patches just to run at 30 FPS? I thought Nintendo didn't make rushed games. I guess that was a lie?
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>>385364202
>Releasing one kid game
Acceptable
>Only kiddieshit on a modern console
Into the trash
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>>385365493
who and who?
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>>385365438
>characters
>literally insignificant when it comes to content
Next you'll be telling me that ARMS doesn't have anything else to play beyond Grand Prix.
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>this game is good
>"why"
>don't need visuals

Really making a compelling argument.
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>>385365497
For someone who supposedly values gameplay over all else, you seem to enjoy some games with trash gameplay. DF is one of those games. Nobody actually enjoys that game, its just something pretentious, autistic losers like you pretend to enjoy to feel cool.
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>>385365354
I never said anything was wrong with the recent Yoshi game's artstyle. Just that it's easy to understand if someone else has an issue with it, just as it is easy for me to understand why you might have an issue with Uncharted/Horizon/DaysGone/TLoU/etc artstyles or gameplay.
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>>385365660
meant for
>>385365497
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>>385365319
Injustice 2 has tons of content
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>>385365438
ARMS has infinitely more charming and quirky characters than anything in Tekken
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>>385365497
>difficulty=quality
again, this is self-explanatory

>why doesnt it run at 60 fps, day 1 patches
because its on a console, dumbshit. that is the current state of console games and that is the shit that is required to remain competitive so youre not selling hardware at a loss and bankrupting yourself in development hell. this isnt a nintendo problem, its a console problem
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>>385365438
Tell me why Tekken Bowl is fucking DLC and the Arcade mode is five fights long.
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Too EZ plain and simple
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>>385365438
Tekken has 39 characters and Arms has 11. Oof.
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>>385365694
i sympathize a lot more with having problems with gameplay than with artstyle. the only exception being a shitton of bloom/blur and CA
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>>385365968
Tekken is a series and Arms is a new IP testing the water with new mechanics. Oof.
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>>385365968
39 characters and nothing to play
Oof indeed.
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I don't understand how people on /v/, people who have played video games before, can't understand this fact.

Childish books and childish movies are primarily visual/story based mediums that are stunted because they are going towards children. You can't have super complicated narratives, and most don't have great cinematography either because it's not a feature.

But a video game is not a 100% storytelling or visual medium. Video games have GAMEPLAY which means that even a childish video game can have tight controls, excellent encounters, unique levels, and fun GAMEPLAY.

Saying liking Mario is 'childish' and 'too colorful' is like saying you can't appreciate a painting that uses more then two colors because it's too 'flashy'. KYS
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>>385365660
>game is good
>"why"
>spends all of its budget improving the gameplay, saving so much on voice acting, story, graphics, and other trivial things that the dev can release it for free, and release decades of free DLC
>product continues getting support years after it launches
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>>385365802
>again, this is self-explanatory
Video games are meant to be played. A game that requires no thought isn't a game. It's a movie.

>because its on a console, dumbshit.
That's not my problem. That's Nintendo's problem for being lazy. Besides, wasn't their motto for the switch "we don't want to compete with sony and MS"? Yet they have the exact same problems.
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>>385365694
>Just that it's easy to understand if someone else has an issue with it
You say that but at the end of the day it's just a video game. If you have a huge issue with the artstyle because it's "cute" you have some growing up to do.
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>>385366082
More Like : you you pretend barney is high art because its fun and colorful
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>>385366208
>A game that requires no thought isn't a game. It's a movie.
Terraria confirmed for movie game, shitty cinematic experience.
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>>385366082
>Video games have GAMEPLAY which means that even a childish video game can have tight controls, excellent encounters, unique levels, and fun GAMEPLAY.
But that's the problem. Modern Nintendo games don't have this. They're WAY too easy and don't require any thought. And if you're gonna imply that Zelda is an exception, then I offer you to look at the metacritic and tell me why it has so much praise when game journos hate challenging games.
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>>385366208
wrong, a movie isnt interactive. figure out what you're really trying to say, and say it
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>>385366241
It's more along the lines of considering Picasso and Andy Warhol childish crappy artists because they have color.
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>>385365631
>Characters aren't content in a fighting game

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NINTENBOYS
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>>385366001
You say one thing, but then immediately contradict it by giving your own example.
Everyone has exceptions. He just so happens to not like Wool... or something.

>>385366218
>but at the end of the day it's just a video game
I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion.

>If you have a huge issue with the artstyle because it's "cute" you have some growing up to do.
Hey, ask him about it. Don't kill the messenger.
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>>385366357
You have an unhealthy obsession with game reviewers. I feel sorry for whoever has to take care of your autistic ass.
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>>385366315
Counterpoint: you said Terraria was for autists, and autists think more than usual people. So by default it can't be a movie.

>>385366401
DVDs are interactive. You have to press play to start them.
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>>385366046
>>385366075
Does Arms cost the same as Tekken 7? Arms has less than a third of the characters in Tekken, pretty fucking bad.
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>>385366581
I have an obsession with people saying that kotaku and gamespot are credible.
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>>385366646
Counterpoint: all the games you enjoy are for autists, because you have autism.
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>>385366581
t. mad game journo
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see you later, /v/. ive read enough autism for one day
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>>385366736
>Arms has less than a third of the characters in Tekken
And more than triple the content mind you.
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>>385366736
how many types of arms are in tekken, none? yikes
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>>385362638
>35 unique posters
pathetic
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>>385362638

Ironically the only people that think aesthetic determines how casual a game is are casuals.
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>>385366739
Yes, you are also insane or at least have been pretending to be insane on the internet for years now (so insane either way).
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>>385363278
I played the demo of this game on 3ds. That shit awful
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>>385367004
>>385366889
>normie AND game journo apologists all rolled up into one
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>>385366736
>11 characters
>each with three arms
>grand total of 33 arms
>each character has two arms
>these 33 arms can be comboed in any way
Tekken 7 doesn't seem so impressive for an established IP.

Then there's the fact that there's only a pathetic Arcade mode, Treasure battle and story to do.
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>>385362638
Faggots think that if a game is comfy then it's for babies. They want all games to look like Dark Souls or whatever.
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>>385363103
Your opinion means nothing, namefag
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They're primitive
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>>385367336
Isn't it the case for kirby, yoshi and those shitty jrpgs?
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>>385362638
no content, no difficulty, overpriced, no replayability
it's your typical nutendo trash
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>>385362638
They don't have any mature content. They don't explore mature themes. They're marketed for children. Figures the manchildren on /v/ would like them
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Honestly, the characters are boring an unappealing. I mean, i wouldn't pay money to play them.
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>>385366357
It's almost like there are other criteria for judging a game besides challenge.
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>>385362638
>tfw own 4 out 5 of those games
>will get bing bing odyssey when it releases
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>>385368180
>someone uses this defense to defend a game like Uncharted
>"lol who cares about the graphics and atmosphere and story, your game is just a movie lol sonyroach XD"

Really makes me think anon.
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>>385363278
>I'm a grown ass man that's insecure about others judging me for the games I play.
Fucking reevaluate your life, faggot.
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>>385368318
If you wanted to argue with yourself why are you posting on 4chan?
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>>385368382
>i play games with nothing mature about them and are marketed towards kids
Maybe you should reevaluate your own life first and grow up a bit
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>>385368534
This is your argument though. I just saved you the effort of posting it. Since when has any other criteria mattered when judging a game, when you would already discard it because "lol its a casual sony movie game"?

I've simply taken that to its logical conclusion and only consider gameplay to be important in a game. Everything else is filler and unnecessary.
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>>385368623
You're really telling other people to grow up when you're basing your maturity on what you're told is mature rather than what is?
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>>385368656
Except I didn't dismiss any Sony games and you're literally continuing our conversation by yourself and projecting.
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>>385368656
>>385368909
Also why does it matter how the average /v/tard responds when you were talking specifically about Metacritics earlier?
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>>385368773
I'm basing maturity on the themes and content of games. Mature content and themes can be determined by the degree to which they are fit for children. If there are themes or content that a child shouldnt be viewing than it is mature. There is nothing mature about nintendo games. Its not about what others think its about growing up and examining themes that are relatable.
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>>385369171
degree to which they are unfit*
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>>385369171
>I'm basing maturity on the themes and content of games
So what you're told.
Believe it or not maturity isn't all rooty tooty point and shooty and "deep" story telling.
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>>385368909
>>385369139
The point is that people here love to be hypocrites about metacritic. You can claim you don't dismiss sony games, but the several hundred thousand threads talking about MUH PAID REVIEWS says otherwise, and statistically you have to be among them. If not, you would've clarified that earlier.

This is OP's problem in particular. He asks why people don't like the Switch's lineup, then immediately lashes out against people who offer criticisms, saying "WELL YOU JUST HATE FUN FAGGOT, YOU LIKE THE PS4 HURR DURR". You think that's what anyone wants to hear after a day's work and coming home to browse /v/?
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>>385362638
It's not that they're colourful it's that they're designed for children.
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>>385369309
>Believe it or not maturity isn't all rooty tooty point and shooty and "deep" story telling.
>anon says this as he unironically defends Zelda and Xenoblade, despite them having terrible gameplay and being reliant solely on their "storytelling" and "characters" to sell
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>>385369171
>If there are themes or content that a child shouldnt be viewing than it is mature.
So basically the games you're calling mature aren't mature then. After all, those are the games that people are buying their kids.
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>>385369309
The themes and content of a game is not just what someone tells you about the game. It's something that is actually in the game. They are mature because kids cannot relate to what is in the game whereas developed adults can
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>>385363591
replace the order 1886 with Nioh and you're unironically right
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>>385369536
>They are mature because kids cannot relate to what is in the game whereas developed adults can
Wrong answer, after all it's not uncommon to see kids go through these things you're calling "mature" as well as experience them through the very same video games you're defending.
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>>385363849
You ignore the fact the games of the left except FF13 are good and the ones on the right are bad games
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>>385369556
I know that this was made for the sake of a /v/ joke but the bottom one isn't wrong.

Story and depth are useless in a video game because video games are about the way you control the character. It's all well and good to have them but if the actions of your character consist of the bare essentials of movement and combat then it's not suited to be a game in the first place.
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>>385369517
Parents buy them for their kids but they arent made for them and you cannot argue that the content or themes explored in M rated games are fit for children. Exposing children to violence and other mature things doesnt have an obvious effect, but that doesnt mean they understand and appreciate all that the games are. Mature games are made for developed adults and you have to be one to fully appreciate them
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>>385369970
>Parents buy them for their kids but they arent made for them
Which is why year after year the games are being catered towards them right jimbo? Face the facts, your "maturity" is nothing but your own need to be seen as "grown up" to the people around you.
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>>385369695
I answered this kind of objection
>>385369970
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They're made for kids. You have to be autistic to play them.
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>>385370104
Except you didn't, you just said "no they don't understand because I said so!"
Believe it or not, kids are far more understanding than you think they are.
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>>385370087
How are they catered to children? Because theyre casualized? Thats not catering to specifically children, but to a broader consumer audience on general, tho it has the effect of drawing in more children. And this only happens with some games, CoD being the most available example. That still doesnt mean children can understand the themes of the games. To fully appreciate a mature game you must be mature enough to understand it. Children cant.
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>>385369697
>galaxy
>bad
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>>385362638
Modern Nintendo are like westaboos whose only experience with the west is Nickelodeon teen choice awards.
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>>385370424
>Believe it or not, kids are far more understanding than you think they are.
Youre making a claim thats much harder to believe than the one im making. I dont think kids can fully understand themes involving death, evil, etc. Maybe they can view them and not be scarred, but that doesnt mean they understand it. Mature games are made specifically for a certain audience with certain themes and content to reflect those themes. Nintendo games like in OP were made and advertised to children, they explore no mature themes and have no mature content. Mature games are not made for kids, even tho kids do end up playing them.
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>>385370463
>Thats not catering to specifically children
Oh please, games are getting simpler and simpler these days and not only regarding gameplay but story structure too. The themes themselves are a meaningless point to dwell on because the kids understand things like death, sex, gambling, war and what not. It's the 21st century anon they grew up around these things appearing on the news daily so it's less a lack of understanding. Hell if you were a child around the drug scare age then you would know a thing or two about what drugs have done to people.
They simply don't care because it's a video game.

>To fully appreciate a mature game you must be mature enough to understand it
It's less that you have to be mature to appreciate the themes as much as you have to be full of yourself as well as wanting others to view you as mature in a desperate attempt of acceptance.
Real maturity is more along the lines of appreciating something in a better light lets take say, Sonic for example a child could have fun with it getting from A to B but he won't understand the importance of physics in the game or utilize it.
And older player on the other hand will go out of their way to explore and see what they can do with the game's physics as well as taking note of how versatile it is on top of looking for secrets, getting better times/scores and so on.

It's all well and good saying that these "mature" themes are mature but funnily enough that's the thought process of a child.
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>>385371693
>Oh please, games are getting simpler and simpler these days and not only regarding gameplay but story structure too
They are, but thats not catering to children. Companies are trying to appeal to a broader market, and it so happens that children also come in as a side effect of that. Again, this doesnt happen to all mature games, only a select few popularized ones.
>The themes themselves are a meaningless point to dwell on because the kids understand things like death, sex, gambling, war and what not. It's the 21st century anon they grew up around these things appearing on the news daily so it's less a lack of understanding. Hell if you were a child around the drug scare age then you would know a thing or two about what drugs have done to people
I dont think children understand any of those kinds of themes, even if they may have directly experienced them. They dont have the cognitive ability to fully understand them and I believe the science backs it up. Just because there is stuff on the news does not mean they understand it, youre trying to reach to justify your definition of mature.
Clearly, there is a seperation of games that are mature, made and targeted towards adults, and those that arent, which are made and marketed toward children. You can play whatever you want, but to say theres no distinction between them or that playing one or the other says nothing about you is just a deception. It also does matter what "society" thinks of yoy because your a social creature that needs to live in a social world, although I'm not going into that
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>>385369171
>Mature content and themes can be determined by the degree to which they are fit for children. If there are themes or content that a child shouldnt be viewing than it is mature.
That really isn't how it works though.
If a product has content that isn't suitable for children, then the product isn't suitable for children. But that does in no way mean that it's necessarily mature.
A product still needs mature content to be mature. Meaning themes or elements tough for a young mind to wrap their head around, follow, or understand. There is a huge difference.
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>>385373080
Thats what I was trying to convey.
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>>385363770
this victim complex baka
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