What's the fastest you ever dropped an MMO? >Try Revelation

i dropped black desert after reaching the first village

>>385352976
Black desert, soon after I got that donkey mount and realized that it's just a single play game with mmo terminology. I would've dropped FFXIV way sooner but the fags here insisted it got good 100 levels later

Revo was probably the fastest for me too. Fucking generic as shit and the shills saying "it has houses and flying mounts" got so butthurt it was funny.

When I find out a game is an MMO, I drop it.

>>385352890
guild wars 2, made it the second zone and fucked off. Being able to play as a qt3.14 c@ wasn't
worth it

>>385352890

Guild Wars. Everyone kept claiming it was the sequel to Diablo II. Played it to level 12 and saw the necromancer was going to be total shit. The game couldn't be more opposite to Diablo II if it tried.

>>385354401
The fuck? Necromancer in GW is one of the best PvE characters and some curses like Spiteful Spirit were nasty in PvP.

Guildwars.

>>385354659

It's not about it being good. A class can be overpowered, yet also be boring. It's also about people hyping the game as the true successor to Diablo II. But if someone went into the game expecting an MMO where you could summon 20 skeletons, of course they'll be disappointed.

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The only good MMO I've played was AIKA and it was solely because you could turn your loli companion into a slut.

>>385352890
WoW, one look at the muddy mess made we want to drop it.

>>385355353
I guess, but you can control 12 and I'm pretty sure there was a weird way to control more involving a skill that caused them to temporarily turn neutral.

>>385355726
Aura of the lich I believe, let you control all nearby undead, and undead gained this way didn't count to the cap

>>385355726
You could have enough to kill yourself before they capped it.

>>385355513
Yeah Elwyn forest and teldrassil are so ugly

>>385352890
lucky you, you didn't have to deal with time -gated content and p2w store. And they have the knack to release player-owned houses to try and save their game lmao.

Guild Wars after the secondary profession quest. The dual classing bullshit was too complicated for me.

>>385352890
Rift, terrible animations.

>>385356041
I miss starting NE areas. Duskshore was my shit

Dragon Nest. Looked at the UI for 5 seconds. I didn't even bother uninstalling the game. I threw my computer out the window and ordered another one online.

>>385356324
Literally just pick something that compliments your playstyle. Played with someone who was a melee ranger with a pet and scythes. I had a dervish that used daggers from assassin.

>>385357484
Game was eh looking but the killer was how fuckin slow you moved prior to stacking a ton of speed stats. Coming from vindictus it was a snails pace

>>385352890
revelations online, blade and soul or age of wushu
never got past the tutorial in any of them

>>385352890
Anything from Korea

I played the trial for BDO for like an hour before dropping it

>>385355513
I was liking WoW on my warlock until I tried pvp and realized that casters are garbage and quit

>>385358673
>Not getting free duelist rank as a warlock

plz, I barely played mine and it was a joke to get.

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>>385352890
Ragnarok Online 2. Shit was awful in every aspect.

>>385352890
I love these shitty mmos so much

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World of Warcraft after only six years.

>>385359018

That game actually came out? I didn't even notice.

>mfw the OST got leaked years before

>>385352890
Blade & Soul, I couldn't even finish the character creation. The whole style from faces to proportions to skin, I don't know I don't mind sexualized or even porn games but this shit just disgusted me for some reason.

>>385359843
Which of all the itterations?
There is ragnarok 2: the gate of the world
ragnarok 2: legend of the second
Both are equally trash, except the first had good music as its only saving grace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEqEh9GGyx4

>>385359072
>tfw you can't play shitty MMOs anymore because the gooks finally upgraded all the computers in their PC-bangs and nothing runs on your 5 year old laptop
Such is life without employment.

>>385352890
i wanted to make aa giant guy healer, but you couldn't (atleast back then)
Also, dropped Secret World Legends at the character creator

>Try FFXIV
>Two hours later
>Well, it's an MMO

>>385360568
>Also, dropped Secret World Legends at the character creator
you mean when it was on open beta?
Or you paid for that piece of trash?

>>385360339

I don't know which. I'm just pointing out the music that got leaked was good.

>>385361832
Wasn't Secret World legends (their freemium version) free?

>>385352890
FFXIV. 2.5s GCD is garbage.

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>>385360568
This hurts to see. I played it before the Legends stuff and really loved it as a single player thing. WTF happened with the update? They seem to have literally killed it completely.

>>385361965
i dont even know at this point, i played the beta and that didnt impress me at all

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>>385360568
>Try to make a woman
>Only able to make black women and mulattos
cool creator

if all these MMOs are so bad, what's an actually good one?

>>385362283
The Legends version isn't out on steam yet even though they changed all the logos and stuff

>>385352890
>playing ff14
>start the game in some forest city
>first quest has me walking forward in some linear walkway
>uninstalled within 5 minutes of playing the game

Blade and Soul, the combat wasnt what i expected from it.

>>385362743
Ah ok, I thought they completely shat the bed with this one.

BDO. Only made it through the trial before I stop playing. Every other MMO i at least will play for a month.

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>>385362701
Seinfeld Online.
The only MMO yet to disappoint is one that has yet to be released.

>>385362079
>Hi, I've only made it to level 15.

>>385352890
>friends rave about how PSO2 is a great game
>raids are tied to a schedule
>game doesnt feel like PSO at all

great game my ass, i went though the trouble of making a japanese account for nothing.

>>385355505
tell me more

Tera.

>create character
>play for 4 hours or so
>half way to level cap and haven't even had my hitpoints dip below 90%

>>385352976
>Buy Black desert
>character creation is overrated
>only 3 of the classes are actually different from the rest
>UI is fucking horrendous
>questing feels like playing a game on super easy mode
Refunded that shit ASAP

>Silk Road
>Start playing because friend is playing
>Shitty graphics
>Friend stops playing after a week
>I stop playing.

If I hadn't been down for for six years, I might've still been playing EVE, who knows...

>>385363370
Journey to cap is the tutorial.

Free 2 Play

Because it will be inevitably filled by Eastern Europeans and sand niggers.They single-handedly ruined this format. Seriously, I'd rather pay a sub and play with people who weren't raised by fucking wolves, these """"people"""" lack any basic human decency.

>>385354401
Prior to some nerfs you could do insane stuff with minions and to this day can get 14 I at once with 16 being the cap due to DM?

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IIRC it was ESO but I'm not sure
>Game introduces some weird energy system or someshit
>I have to eat food and have energy or I can't do shit
What the fuck? Stamina systems like that should be exclusive to cash grab mobile games, not MMOs.

>>385352890
>Played WoW years ago with friend from WC3 custom games
>Quit during Cataclysm because of how they fucked everything up so badly (yes I know wrath is also bad)
>Well meaning friend buys me Legion
>Honestly feel disgusted with myself for playing it for a month (wanted to appease my friend, hes a good boy)

I'm not going to rant I just.. The old phrase "A camel is a horse made by a committee" comes to mind. Awful, just awful.

>>385363504
I don't give a single shit about end game content, I just wanted some comfy leveling and exploration. Also, how the fuck is it a tutorial if it teaches you nothing? There's zero challenge.

>>385352890
Does reinstalled WoW, creating an orc shaman, and uninstalling before level 5 count? I just remembered watching my brothers playing raids and that looking fun, but that 20 minutes was enough to remind me why I never got past level 40 back in the day

>>385363519
Really? I've met a lot of friendly russians and people from the eastern bloc, my worst experiences have been with Americans and Western EU types.

>>385363863
>playing a game all about end game when you don't like end game
>implying tutorials have anything to teach anyone but mouth breathers
Can you shills just stop pretending you play games?

>>385363504
This shit has become too common in mmos.
What are some MMOs where it's not expected for most of the player base to reach the level cap?
Don't say runescape, I've been down that dark path before.

>>385363370
Same.
>reached lv 65
>bored to death

>>385364067
>how is it a tutorial? It doesn't teach anything
>implying tutorials ever teach anything, mouth breather shill! GTFO!
Good post my man

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So what I'm seeing is there are no good MMO's to play, at all. And there never will be? Well that's depressing.

>>385364264
no. just normal /v/ autism.

>>385363914
yeah I had similar happen back in vanilla, looked someone play X class and thought holy shit that looks cool, I'll roll one myself!

got to 1-10 level before quitting. made this with almost every single class

>>385364067
How can I be a shill if I'm saying I don't like a game? Aren't shills supposed to be people who pretend to like something to get others to play it? Use your brain, anon.

Why even have levels if the game starts at max level and you get there in a few hours anyway? What's even the point? Either make levels relevant and interesting or fucking remove them.

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>>385352890
But the tiddies, anon.

>The Secret World
>take 5 steps
>uninstall

gameplay was clumsy as fuck

>>385352890
Silkroad online, after waiting 40 mins just to enter the server and see it full to the brim with bots and AFK merchants/goldsellers

>>385363121
Not him but the game is slow even at cap. Even with OGCD skills most classes don't break 40 casts a minute. It's easily the slowest tab-targetting MMO that's still alive.

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>>385352890
Albion Online

>Get into one of the Betas
>All the other players expect you to know optimum strategies for the game inside and out or they won't even speak to you or let you into their guild
>Mine shit for a while
>Get murdered
>Quit after 2 hours

>>385364264
Guild wars good.
not really an MMO, but it was really good.
Everything after Wow Bc has been shit.

>>385364264
Yes and no, it depends what you want out of them. If you're looking for an experience like The Burning Crusade you won't find it, there are some obscure MMOs out there that are fun otherwise your choices pretty much come to WoW, FFXIV, SWTOR and TESO. (and other obvious ones I missed)

Tree of Savior, after like two days when I realized the devs had no idea how to design/balance classes/skills.

>>385359251
It's been 8 years for me and I'm still on the ride

>>385352890

I quit both Wildstar and TERA within an hour of starting, mostly because I downloaded them out of sheer boredom and got annoyed by some minor things.

> Wildstar
> Customising the UI felt finicky and was taking a bit of time to figure out

> TERA
> Movement and camera felt floaty and I wasn't in the mood to get used to them

Neither of them are bad games and neither of those issues were bad enough to even be considered problems. It's just that when a game is F2P and there are literally hundreds of other options out there, the most minor annoyances really stand out. It's not like I paid money for these games and there are plenty of other MMOs that I want to try out, so why bother staying if the first impression isn't all that good?

I'd be way more patient if I had to pay for a game upfront.

>>385364182
>What are some MMOs where it's not expected for most of the player base to reach the level cap?

BDO

>>385363959
Americans are actually the worst part of any game.

tfw I sometimes play on asian servers in Overwatch and it's super comfy compared to the raging mouth breathers on NA.

>>385363370
I dropped Tera after my first dungeon.
God the dungeons were so shit.

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>>385353287
> no stormshit thread in sight
> feels good

I'll never forgive those fucking weebs who fooled me into the stormblood hype. The game turned out to be complete dogshit and I wasted a good amount of money on it.

>>385364264

Every MMO has problems, and even the "classic" ones that were shut down had a lot of people bitching about their issues too.

You're not ever going to enjoy an MMO if you don't have a clear idea of what you want, and a clear idea of what issues/problems you're willing to put up with. If you don't think about those two things before shopping for MMOs, you'll never find one that you'll like.

Most MMOs these days are shit, but even the best ones today aren't that much worse than the best ones of yesteryear. You just need to know what you're looking for and lower your expectations accordingly.

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Gummycraft

>Can't wait to play on a properly scripted server!
>create a character
>play for 3 hours and go take a break
>come back, try to log in
>Blizzard shut it down

>>385365306
What was bad about it? Stormblood is probably the best MMO out right now.

>>385365306
same. the game is nothing but erp shit and im sick of their generals clogging up /v/ with mroe their erpshit

>>385364264
There plenty of people enjoying MMOs here.
But nobody will admit it, or he will be faced with
>playing x
>some meme about the game

>>385352890
>have fond memories of playing The Realm Online's demo as a kid
>try the "modern" version a few years ago
>starter city has been remade with a fuckhuge and totally empty park in the middle of town, making it take forever to get to the vendors

I swear that thing just kept going and going. I don't even remember making it out of the park before dropping the game.

>>385365129
I can say you're not wrong about tera. It forces you to get use to the camera or risk being shit. Started as a healer and boy oh boy it was a pain in the ass to heal the smaller races for a few months.

>>385365306
>tfw played the base game upon release for a month and dropped it upon reaching cap
>tfw it was only 20 bucks
No regrets.

>>385365487
Because the /pol/ bait threads that would otherwise take up space are much better.

At least people have fun in FF threads.

>>385356252
Its time to stop playing bud

>>385354401
>Played it to level 12 and saw the necromancer was going to be total shit
HAHAHAHAHAHHA

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>>385363206
Full name is AIKA online and it's been around since 2009.

I have no idea how actice/dead it is because I haven't played it for years but I remember it had a unique national system that basically made the whole game revolve around the top players.

The other unique system was having a Fairy Companion (called a Pran) that would give you extra buffs and spells and had it's own personality depending on how you treated it as it grew up.

One of the personalities you could get was literally called "sexy" which basically made her a slut.

>Tried Monster Hunter Online after weeks of getting it to fucking work
>had google translate app there to AR translate the text using my phone
>quickly realize that materials are basically one large pool of currency and zenny is hard to get without straight up buying it with real cash
completely ruined the game

>>385365817
I mean mean pran to endlessly bully me while I go grinding

>>385362873
You made it further than me, I uninstalled as soon as a giant crystal started talking to me about my destiny or some shit,

>>385365817
For a minute there I had AIKA confused with Prius Online and was going to bring this up.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/05/korean-girl-starved-online-game

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>>385352890
>played swg since launch
>they shut down the game in 2011
dropped

>>385365647
>It forces you to get use to the camera or risk being shit.
If you think this is a bad thing you ARE shit.

>>385365129
I was expecting Jak and Daxter MMO edition for WS. I quit after making my character, that UI was rough to look at.

>>385363708
That reminds me of this Monster Hunter Online clone I use to play. Game was an exact copy of monster hunter that had an energy system that dictated how many quests you could do per day. It was such bullshit.

I can't for the life of me remember the name of this MMO but it was literary a monster hunter clone. They didn't try to mask it or anything.

>>385365487
Those mongoloids need to go back to /vg/ where they belong.

>>385365462
Let's see:
> slowest combat compared to all MMOs out today
> cringey anime-tier story (FUCK YOU WEEBS YOU LOW STANDARD SHITS)
> horrible questing. I probably almost went insane just to unlock HW.
> creepy erp fucknuts (in FC and in public)
> o4s is a pushover, are you niggers kidding?
> lots of other issues other players can elaborate better.

>>385366620
I honestly don't think the combat is slow at all at the cap, as any of the classes I play. There's just too much shut going on and OGCD stuff being hit

>>385366620
>implying you even made it to o4s

>>385366419

I never like the default UI of any MMO I play. It's just that I don't understand why things like the buff/debuff bar seems to be locked onto my character portrait. Trying to find a way to separate the two just got too annoying for me to deal with.

Later, I took one look at the disorganised list of modules for the UI and just gave up entirely. There's definitely a way to fix it to my liking but it just wasn't a good first impression.

>>385364264
I'm enjoying Eve and Mortal Online[/spoiler and Camelot Unchained is looking pretty good.

I did end up a sucker and purchased Albion Online though. Only to be told that they don't offer a refund policy after I quickly discovered the game was raw shit.

>>385364383
I agree but it's just another concept people expect from MMOs. So even if it doesn't add anything, there's going to be levels.

>>385366620
What do you expect from a babby MMO where all content has to be doable by people with controllers instead of kb+m

>>385366379
I'm sorry that was never used to targeting people for heals.

>>385365462

You're only going to get stock responses about how everything is shit. Same with every other MMO in this thread because of the "All modern MMOs are shit" because they aren't constantly evolving 2nd life worlds where I can live out my snowflake fantasies.

>>385359018
A Sequal so bad people went back to RO1 and then the RO devs dumped out a 1.0 version of RO and dubbed it Ragnarok Re:Start

>>385366620
fpbp

>>385366379

Not that guy, but the main standard is tab-targeting for healers (in my experience).

It's not necessarily a bad thing to be forced to use the camera, but you'd have to be ignorant not to think that it takes time to get used to compared to the default tab targeting.

Ragnarok Online 2 - I expected something interesting, and was very plainly told to look somewhere else by the game within about 10 minutes of starting. I usually put forward more time but RO2 seemed pretty upfront about what it was.

>>385365306
>>385366620
Boy you just can't stop talking about XIV in whatever thread you find yourself in huh.

>>385366796
The GCD barely even matters with how many skills you have that are off the GCD.

>>385367060

I think a lot of the problems people have with FF14 are the same issues that people have with most other theme park MMOs. I stopped playing FF14 because it got boring to me and I couldn't describe why I lost interest. After a while, it became clear that I just don't tend to dedicate more than a few months to any theme park MMO, no matter how well designed.

Also, making it mandatory to go through the main quest in order to unlock endgame dungeons is more than a little annoying. If you spend a month leveling through dungeons with rest XP, then it's easy to hit your 50s even if you haven't beaten a main story quest over 30. That's pretty annoying to have to deal with.

>>385367164
That standard is casual shit.

>>385367347
>theme park MMOs are boring

and then they make sandbox mmos (desert online, abion online, etc) and those are shit because there's nothing to do.

>>385352890
I dropped dungeons and dragons online probably 40 minutes into playing. I could tell it was going to be nothing but a grind with bad controls

>>385366620
>o4s

It's v4s you fucking faggot

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>>385352890

I bought guild wars 2 for 60 on launch. Played 30 minutes and never, ever went back.

>>385367748

Its D4s you fucking retard.

>>385367874
>Not E4s

>>385367347
Yeah gating behind the MSQ is a flaw that even the devs have acknowledged - it's fucked if you're a new player and casually just doing roulettes as you play each day. And their solution is to allow players to pay a fuck ton of money to skip all of it instead of taking the time to shore up rough spots in the first 50% of the content any new player is going to see.

It's fine design if you've been playing from the start, but for new players or people returning after a long break, it's intense garbage. I like the game but it's definitely one of those things that clearly holds it back. Which I guess might be intentional since their servers basically can't handle more players anyways, if the game had the population WoW has it would just break under the load every weekend.

>>385367734
ArcheAge was a combination of Theme Park and Sandbox and was so fucking fun, until they ruined it with the shitty cash shop.

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>>385366832
> don't mention that you completed o4s
> "have you even completed savage, pleb?"
> mentioned that you completed o4s
> "n-no you didn't!"
fuck off.

>>385367936
At least in WoW you get free skip potions if you buy an expansion. Squeenix went full jew in SB, what a bunch of hacks. The retarded fanbase who defend it are just as shitty.

>>385367681

I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying it's what most of us are used to, whether or not it's shit.

>>385367734

I'm not saying sandbox games are better. I'm just stating that most of the complaints that I have towards FF14 seem to be the issues I have with most theme park games. If anything, that shows that FF14 isn't as bad as a lot of its detractors seem to think, since the main issue is with genre conventions instead of the specific game.

>>385367936

It's good to know that the devs have acknowledged that it's an issue. It's not even something I'd consider to be catastrophic, but it was just weird to see that my level and gear were completely appropriate for an end-level dungeon but, by design, I couldn't access any of them.

>>385367347
I only recently started playing FF14 and my main issues with it are how slow and simple the combat is for 90% of the leveling process (use a few skills for a combo, maybe a buff, repeat ad nauseum) which is made worse by the level scaling bullshit for dungeons which reduces you to all of 2 skills. And JESUS FUCK, the quests are horrible. Just awful, samey "go here, kill this, talk to x" quests. Then there's the constant cutscenes for no reason. And the story and characters are trash.

I'm only still playing is because my friends play it, so I'll continue looking for some reason to continue on.

>>385368330
Not that Im defending the price, but one of the reasons they listed to "justify" the extreme cost I kind of agreed with. They claimed if they made it cheaper, the fanbase would probably demand new players purchase the skip potion, and make it a "required purchase". Having experienced the cunty fanbase of FF14 I can imagine that happening exactly.

The 2nd reason was to stop their fanbase crying "What do you mean the gajillion hours it took me to complete the story are only worth $X?"

>>385368402

I thought some of the side quests and job storylines were interesting, but the main quest is horribly inconsistent in terms of quality or diversity. The main quest probably wouldn't feel nearly as bad if it wasn't absolutely mandatory to reach the endgame content. It's just a major misstep by the developers who want to pad out playtime for their sub-based MMO.

>>385352890
EQ2, this was back when WoW was dominant and EQ2 first opened up their free trial to try and entice people away. Some of my friends played EQ2 instead of WoW because they were hipster faggots. I tried EQ2 with one of my WoW friends and we dropped it within a few hours.

>>385354401
>>385354659
is GW worth playing? I used to play a lot of WoW during the WOTLK days and am looking for a new MMO to get into.

Metin 2. It only took me 10 seconds. No joke.

>>385368536

Or they could have just created a free alternative way to access endgame dungeons in the next expansion. This really isn't a matter of price so much as just having the option to access the same content that your friends are playing without a tremendous amount of time being devoted to the main quest.

Honestly, the hours I spent on the roulette should be a much more reliable measure of whether I can be a party asset than if I'm able to just trudge through what's basically a half-baked single player campaign.

>>385352890
>Start Black Desert
>Open cash shop
>See auto looting pets
>Immediately quit and uninstall

Glad I did. I later heard that pets were practically necessary to get anything done and you HAD to buy them with real money. Fuck that noise.

>>385368870
Beware of anything Korean. Their players expect an insurmountable grind and they expect the cash shop to be filled with essential items almost required to experience the game and lessen the grind. It's what they enjoy.

>>385368402
Try to voice chat with your friends while you're doing it, and have them suffer through dungeons with you. Everything's more fun with friends at least.

I feel like when people say the story is good they are either talking about just HW 3.0 - 3.3, or they're more impressed by the setting or individual characters. XIV lore has a lot of interesting stuff, and quest dialog can tie into it and paint a strong picture. But as far as just 'your adventure' in ARR goes, yeah it's bland, inconsistent, and most people are right to dislike it. It gets better in HW since the tone is more like a lonely journey, but it's still no masterpiece by any means.

>>385368330
Yeah can't really defend SE on the jump potion bullshit, it's garbage through and through and doesn't speak well of the future for getting new people into the game unless they start bundling that shit with new expansions like Blizzard does. Also I'm pretty sure people just don't believe that you've beaten O4S, it's certainly among the easiest of raid tiers, but there's still only like 87 parses uploaded for it.

>>385363370
Reminds me of when I used to play.

>Stopped playing WoW for some time and friend recommends TERA
>Go to try it
>Being a all-rounded player I tried out several different class types
>Got to max on lancer and was the easiest tanking in a game ever.
>Did so well guilds tried to steal me from other guild.
>Cucked him hard
>mfw
>quit soon after

>>385366870
I could genuinely get into mortal online or similar games if they REMOVED THE STUPID FUCKING CAP FOR FREE PLAYERS

Explain to me how having only 60% of the ability a pay 2 player does is in any way fair?

Complete fucking bullshit. They should have allowed free players to reach 100%, but in a lower number of skills than paying players so that we have to specialize.

60% is practically useless.

>>385368547
Yeah, the job quests are definitely my favorite so far. You get to learn about the class and do some class related stuff with interesting characters instead of generic crap. I also enjoy the fates, hope when I get to the expansion content more people are doing them.

>>385364264
The major problem is literally on a conceptual level. Do you want a "polished" and extremely planned out linear experience, than just play any major MMO still alive today (IE: wow). DO you want to play a super bland and boring grindfest filled with like-minded people and converse with them and make an adventure out of little, well too bad that generation dissapeared.

We traded the sense of adventuring and ACTUALLY talking to people about the world and its few interactions for "playing the game" if you get what I mean. Most popular MMOs focus on really polished experiences but u can just as easily play an RPG without the MMO part and get the same level of quality and the only thing you lose is the "social tab" (Different from partying and questing with complete strangers)

>>385363504
A tutorial should never last more than half an hour.if the journey to the cap is unchallenging bullshit then why make it so time consuming? It doesn't even have the excuse of it being to milk sub money since that shit was f2p

Guild Wars 2

>50 levels of the same 5 abilities all tied to your weapon

What a fucking retarded idea.

>>385366620
>Those mongoloids need to go back to /vg/ where they belong.

>I don't like game
>therefore this game shouldn't be allowed to be post on /v/

>>385365149
why, because you get bored at level 15 and drop it? that game is exactly the fucking same, you can hit level cap in like a day you fucker

>>385370020
There is no level cap, faggot.

I can tell you haven't played it longer than 20 minutes.

>>385370020
BDO doesn't have a level cap.

It literally does not have a cap to its levels. It just gets extremely time consuming to level after 57.

>>385370138
57-58 is pretty reasonable. I got it in a day of grinding after this recent patch that reduced leveling times by 20%.

>>385368632
GW1 is kinda worth if you can get 3 other people to play with you, the community is dead. Also the game is dated so keep that in mind.

GW2 is boring shit.

>>385369725
It also didn't help that most of the ability animations were awful

>>385369703
It's not just sub money, if they can show to investors that people play for a long time, it sounds better. It's also why they have those daily log in rewards for a lot of games. Shows that people consistently play daily on their statistics. It's always about money, man.

>>385369432
I feel like the only real unique thing an MMO like WoW offers is the raid content. It's highly planned out, but it requires some odd amount of people to work together to overcome a challenge and lets them see their growth as a result of overcoming team-based challenges. And however fleeting it is, they can empirically show with their better gear that they're 'better' players for beating that content sooner than others.

>>385367065

I remember thinking RO1 was shit when I tried it over a decade ago, what could they have done to ruin it?

>>385369725
>get Warrior to max level
>grind dungeons for weeks to get the armour/weapon I need that gives the stats my build needs
>they rejig the skill trees making my build impossible and nowhere near as effective
>see that I'll have to grind a different dungeon for weeks to get a different armour set with the new stats my new build will need

Lol nope

>>385365338
>even the "classic" ones that were shut down had a lot of people bitching about their issues too.

No. It's clear you didn't actually play any old school MMOs. The only ones complaining were casuals who were mad that things were too hard core. So developers decided to cater to them and alienate their hardcore base as a result. All they have done is flipped the complaining around. There is no denying that MMOs are completely different now.

>>385366314
The revival is actually pretty active anon, you may wanna check it out

>>385366379
If I wanted to play an FPS then I would play an FPS. I think you just have shit taste, and will defend you shitty game as long as it has your shitty loli waifu race in it.

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>>385352890
>installed ffxiv a week or two ago
>shits laggy even on lowest setting
>literally ~20 fps in an empty map
>uninstalled immediately
also they force you to give your toon a last name which was a bit of a turn off, but it was the lag that ultimately killed it for me

>>385371538
What the fuck kind of toaster are you running

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>>385370917
>found early WoW to be my ideal level of grind/reward
>hit level 60 on a private populated vanilla server, taking my sweet time and making friends along the way
>complete all the raids with my guild
>essentially "completed" the game
>Burning Crusade servers are all dead

>>385371538
Sounds like you just have a shit trash computer my dude

>>385371538
get better internet
not that you should go back to ff14 but lag is not one of its problems.

>>385370917

You're looking through this with rose-tinted glasses. We have the luxury of looking back at those mechanics and seeing that they were necessary to maintain a certain level of depth and complexity that most of today's MMOs lack. If you were playing them back then, you obviously wouldn't have that hindsight.

Think back to the days of Ultima Online and all the people who would blow a gasket whenever they did a rune trade on the ground and some asshole like me would come along and just scoop it out from under them, Belan the Looter-style. Yes, that was funny for me at the time and it's funny to laugh at now, but small design decisions like that had a significant backlash. Even if the majority of that backlash was "casual," it was still significant enough to discourage those kinds of "loot" mechanics in modern MMOs.

These MMOs were never designed to make you happy. They were always designed to make money, and the "casual" conspiracy that you're bitching about has always been where the money was.

>>385363708
That's not ESO but BDO does have that.

>>385365817
>AIKA
The game seems to be still there, hosted by t3fun, along with Granado Espada

>>385371685
>>385371726
>>385371738

There were some significant DDOS fuckery going on at around Stormblood's launch, but it was definitely more than a week ago. Not sure if the guy's just mixing up his time frame or if his Internet is just that genuinely bad. I have a pretty decent connection and even I'd suddenly drop out in the middle of a roulette.

>>385371538
>literally ~20 fps in an empty map

This game can run on PS3. Are you trying to play it on a netbook or something?

>>385371862
I think he meant lag in the wrong sense, since he mentioned sub 20 fps in empty areas.

However, that being said depending on where you live XIV is rife with network issues. I live in the Pacific Northwest and oftentimes the route between me and the server gets all fucky and instances lag out to shit for me and a buddy who lives a few miles away. My ping is generally like 40ms, but routing across the US is a fucking mess. I imagine players behind the east coast wall of fucked routing probably have it worse more often.

>>385353287

There aren't even 100 levels in the game. The term "good" is completely subjective. They clearly have different priorities than you do, so you have to be specific about things you're looking for in a game.

>>385360129
If you're such a prude then I don't see how you even managed to muster up the interest to install the game in the first place.

I tried literally every MMO out there except ESO (why doesn't have a fucking trial for a few days blows my mind) any anon playing it can redpill me about it's plot/quest design/pvp/pve?

FFXIV is a great game to sunk 100+ hours, in those hours you will finish all the plot, play the majority of dungeons and raids and mess a little with crafting/gathering and pvp

enough to see that beyond the story, the game has a serious content drought in it

>>385374936

It's been mentioned earlier, but a serious detriment to FFXIV is that the main quest is really inconsistent in terms of quality and it's absolutely mandatory to reach endgame content. 100+ hours assumes that you're able to tolerate the main quest all the way through to completion in the first place.

>>385374778
Plot: ESO has no plot worth mentioning.

Quest design: Standard collect 10 bear asses MMO fetch quests.

PvP: No one does it

PvE: Alright but again nothing special. It makes a big deal about being classless, but the reality is that only some race/weapon combos are viable.

Overall, its a pretty shit game.

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>>385375058
well, then that's all

all MMO's are oficially shit (at least for me), the genre needs to fucking die and be reborn again

There was this MMO back several years ago called Auto Assault that I got into the beta for. You played as a car and it was one of the worst fucking things I ever tried.

>>385370129
The soft cap is 60. The hard cap is 65 as nothing in the game currently would give a player experience at that level.
1-56 is easy. 56-60 is a doable if tedious grind. Past sixty is pure autism.

>>385375058
You have clearly not played ESO.

>>385375058
You=idiot.

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I saw some webms with the combat and it interested me, y/n?

>>385353386
Correct answer.

>>385377209
it's an alright game.
can be fun if you don't play it very seriously as thats a common fallacy with korean games to trap you on the cash shop gachapon.
lack of meaningful customization and gender locked classes kind of bother me, but gooks always cut corners in any game development to make flashy stuff fast, sacrificing mechanical depth.

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>>385352890
>Get FF14 trial to play with friend
>We are both new players
>Get past level 5
>Want to party with friend
>Forced to stay alone because reasons
>Ask/lurk further in threads
>"Don't expect multiplayer interaction in FF14 outside dungeons or endgame content"
What's the point of playing a MMO where you will be forced to be alone for 50+ levels?

>>385378916

Finally, someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about.

Gooks pump their visuals so hard people tolerate the incredible lack of depth their systems have. It's actually beginning to fall on itself with such games as Icarus and Bless falling flat on their faces and other titles like LOST ARK having immense difficulty because of what little conceptualizing they can do.

>>385379094
You can play Palace of the Dead and PvP with your friends at any level.
Other than that, yeah. It's a JRPG with occasional co-op.

>>385379094
FF games since X have gotten a little carried away with how long they let the "tutorial" go on.

Getting to level 50 will be about 1/25th of your time spent playing the game though so it makes sense in perspective even if it does take like 100 hours

Any opinions on Soul Worker online? Just started playing it and there's no /vg/ thread for it so I'm guessing it's just dead/non-hype. Is it too instancy so people dorped it fast?

MMOs have become a cancer unto themselves and the world.

How empty does your life have to be that you're willingly signing up to slave hours away in a digital rice field?

mmos suck because mmo players suck

>>385364486
>Going into a tier 6 zone that warns you not to go into it with tier 1/2 gear

What did you think would happen?

>>385365091
It was balanced around circle 9, which wasn't even in the non korea game yet. Literally the first 4 circles dont matter at all because of how buff limits work and how much later classes are.

>>385352890
>Tree of Savior
>open game
>fps drop on a 2.5d game that doesn't even look impressive
>nope

>>385352890
what is revo even about?

>>385353386
Real life is a MMO. When are you dropping dead?

>>385381509
They're social games anon. It's about the in-game community

>>385383412
>crystal cave story objects cant be interacted with because too many players on server

>don't realize and wander around because quest instructions are in horrible engrish

>lvl 10 map links to lvl 89 map with aggro mobs

>>385369432
Albion/EVE/Runescape are some sandbox mmos that heavily push player interaction.

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>>385352890

I usually drop them a few hours in, and that is depending on the features the mmo have. If the mmo features flying, I'll just stick around until i get flying, or until i realize the game is fucking bullshit

Last one i played was FFXIV because a buddy wanted me to come and play with him. Turns out i couldn't join him on his server, and on top of that, it feels too enclosed with all the loading screens and stuck up zones. I went all the way to level 20, did some forced co-op mini dungeons but i just couldn't feel it. Even with the golden saucer available it didn't give me the will to play

>Check out new Korean MMO (mistake in the first place)
>See the absolute garbage UI
>Quit

Why can't Koreans make good UIs?

>>385384516
Albion is the closest game to decent, RS is outdated and grind heavy, EVE is EVE, and Albion would be a great game if the switch from pve focused to pvp grindhouse wasn't so fucking drastic
>Oh you want some t4 resources? go right on ahead
>whoops, its all in pvp zones!

>>385381331
No english servers, and isn't it basically like Closers?

>get free trial for FF XIV
>try out a pre-monk class
>cant be barefoot

Fucking what. Not even a footfag but what the fuck is the point of being a monk if I HAVE to wear stupid thick armored boots?

I played perfect world for about an hour when its beta came out.

I "played" granado espada for a day. And by played I mean I played for about an hour then let my party afk farm in some popular room with some other guys. Game crashed overnight and I never reopened it.

Most other ones I tried I gave at least a week or a month too before stopping for some reason or another. Generally I just get burnt out on dailies or endgame grinds where they want you to get a tierset to farm another tierset to farm another tierset to start being able to do endgame to start farming more tiersets. And you have to upgrade them all to be worth a shit and it costs the same for each set.

The only one I played for around a month that I actually really enjoyed was Aura kingdom on the private server. I don't even remember why I stopped

>>385386913
You actually can go barefoot and keep your stats. Technically you can do it from level 1 if you have the in-game money to buy the shit, and it's not actually expensive to do it.

I can't remember if you can do it while on free trial though.

>>385387120

Fucking what? Is this new?

Back when I tried the trial, without shoes only gave you these shitty white sandals

ESO. Spent two hours trying to like it but I couldn't.

Can't refund now aswell :^)))
Got 1000+ hours since the steam launch of BDO though

>That update that killed the game for you

>>385363184
He fell for the pso2 is good meme

>>385387197
Oh shit I'm retarded, you're right. I was thinking the naked foot outfit was barefoot and you were talking about some customization shit.

Yeah that's pretty fucking lame. Just ditch the game now.

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>>385386762
>tfw no dwarf or crud
I would have bought the game instantly if they have gone through with the races.

>>385387018
Actually I do remember now, their exe trips the fuck out of every AV and its a couple of hoops to exclude it or you have to disable your shit entirely and I wasn't about to do that. and you have to add an exception to it everytime it updates.

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>>385387349

Already did

>>385375191
>Several years ago

Nigga, Auto Assault has to be at least like a decade old. It came out shortly after the 360 did.

>>385386913
>>385387120
>>385387197
>>385387349

Can't you just Glamour the emperor's new boots or whatever the fuck is called and go bare?

>>385388105
That's what I assumed at first when I responded to the guy but the naked foot model is just stuck in sandals.

>>385352890
MMORPGs should just die out and come back with something new than rehashing ideas from wow

>>385352890
mmos are made for children, when you grow up you expect more mature content, but games are still made for children.

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TERA, I think about two hours.
>male character options are Brick Meatfist or gaunt creepy depressed elf so go with the thicc rabbit eared loli
>literally everyone around me is playing elin as well
>every other person in some retarded modern day fashion abortion costume and driving around in police car gokarts
>get to this exact part, start to fall asleep and bail