Just beat this. I really liked it, but I don't feel like

>>385275701
it is overhyped but it's well worth a play at least once.

I'm an old fag. When this came out the people that played it were like "oh that was interesting and different". Fuck hipsters for making this something it wasn't.

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>>385275701
It is good, but I felt like both Mother 1 and 2 had issues with lack of direction on where to go to progress the story. A lot of the time, it wasn't obvious at all.

Mother 3 is genuinely the best of the three.

I agree, I love Mother 3 though. Earthbound is charming, but didn't amaze me, kind of feels like something you'd have to play when it came out to really appreciate.

>>385275701
It was my first RPG before I got pokemon blue, I have nostalgia glasses changing my view on it.

>>385275701
Mother 3 is better imo. The story is better, the gameplay more fast paced and the pacing isn't as slow.

I also feel like in Mother 3 you feel a better connection to the characters in your party.

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>>385275701
I agree, and it's my favorite game ever made. It's flawed but I love it for what it is.

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Earthbound > Mother 3

anyone who says otherwise doesn't know SHIT about video games.

>>385275976
>Mother 3 is genuinely the best of the three.

It's the worst by far.

>>385275701
It's overhyped by cultist. If you did like it, you will like Mother 3 as well.

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The real patrician opinion is liking all three mother games equally. Each games has its strengths and weaknesses.

>>385275701
I really like that game. that said I avoid any community built around it.

>>385275976
>but I felt like both Mother 1 and 2 had issues with lack of direction on where to go to progress the story

OP here, this is kind of the best summation of my thoughts that I could wish for. I have played very, very little JRPGs but of the two I have played (TWEWY and PM:TTYD), they both had a very clear direction with the story so it never felt like aimless wandering.

With Earthbound, I enjoyed the dialogue and writing but I felt like I was just going on an endless trudge.

Still a great game, though

>>385275701
I agree, now play mother 3.
>>385277609
>>385277673
Wrong. Mother 3 has a much more gripping story than earthbound.

I tried to play a patched gba mother 1, but couldn't for the life of me get into it.

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What's the best english version of Mother 1 to emulate?

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>>385279013
I think Mother 3 is more your style then. While some like the nonlinearity of rpgs some do like having a clear idea of their goal and how to go about it. Mother 3 is more linear in its progression as often there is little question as your destination.

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>>385279184
GBA remake with the fan translation patch as well as the color restoration patch.

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>>385279350
>gba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae--BvtUWpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85R3Ab2Y2bI

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>>385279610
Not as bad for a nes game. Better having somewhat inferior music then a completely shit script. The script on the prototype is censored, dry, and just dated.

>>385275701
It's a poor man's Undertale. Only nostalgiafags will disagree.

Hilarious how Neokikeshitendiedrones still act like their games are relevant when some autist with 15$ and RPGmaker outsold their meme trilogy overnight and has now eclipsed Kikebound and Shitter 3 both culturally and memetically. And Undertale isn't even a good game.

>>385275701
Its a Super Nintendo game.
Of course it wont feel as amazing as it was when it was first released.
You need to take into account that games age like milk, and sometimes are surpassed by new ones.

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>>385279743
why didn't they just retranslate the nes version then?

>>385275701
>but I don't feel like it's the insanely perfect masterpiece everyone bla bla
Don't use this mentality when playing games. Even if you think you're above letting it affect your experience, it's still useless. Play games for yourself.

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>>385280108
There actually was a good reason why they worked on the gba version. The nes version had a smaller script size, the character limit in lines and enemy names and such is much shorter. Meanwhile the gba version allowed them to translate properly as the character limit there is much less restrictive.

>>385279013
>>385275976
While I understand your sentiments. I don't think you're explaining in well enough. As one could argue that the game isn't supposed to make progression easy. As a game is supposed to challenge you. And no, the challenge isn't only in the battle system. But also your ability to sleuth for information and think of a solution to overcome logical barriers.

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>play a game from 1994 in 2017
>its not that great lmao

>>385275701
Most people who say its a 10/10 never played it

>385279759
>385279807
Kill yourselves

>>385275701
That's true.

It was baby's first JRPG for many thanks to Smash, and that made them get really into it.

>>385280552
Final Fantasy 7 is still the best game of all time and it came out in 1997

>people say they're mother fans
>they've only played 2 and 3
Every fucking time, I don't even consider myself a big Mother fan and have more respect for the series than self proclaimed starmen.net fanboys.

No game is a "masterpiece". What more can you ask than being a good game?

>>385280552
I don't disagree with the OP, but you're a faggot.

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>>385280772
>No game is a "masterpiece"

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>>385280707

3 is the masterpiece

>>385280707
>>385280829

underage

>>385280745
If only it had overworld enemy encounters, Mother 1 would be the best game of the trilogy.

It's still pretty cool though, but it's not for everyone.

>>385280906
Good music, good story, mediocre gameplay.

A typical Taro game. A flawed gem.

>>385281036
It would also need to fix Mt. Itoi

>>385281005
>thinks years matter when it comes to a game's quality
>calls other underages

Oh the ironing!

>>385280947
No game has topped it's story or music, it's world design is top notch, the materia system is fun and allows for tons of customization and the combat is great for turn-based games. That's to not even mention the god tier characters and enemy design. Can you even name a better game?

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>>385281217
But then you would remove the true final boss from the game.

>>385281217
Mt. Itoi can make or break the game, it's absurdly random and broken, it needs little skill and lots of luck, yet somehow I adored every part of it.

>>385279184

25th anniversary edition nes hack

>>385281604
Looks like shit.

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>>385280745
>people say they're mother fans
>their favorite game is Mother 3

>>385281635

Compared to the original, no. The GBA version has terrible audio and no graphical updates.

>>385279610
I don't remember the patched version sounding this bad.

It's plausible to think that they patched the NES music into it.

>>385275701
It's really good! People should play it.

story
1>3>2
gameplay
3>2>1
OST
1>3>2

The only possible "HQ" Mother 1 may not ever happen, but here's an effort in that anyways:

https://forum.starmen.net/forum/Community/PKHack/Mother-Remake

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>>385281641
>people say they're mother fans
>don't like all three games

>>385275701
cool now beat nocturne

>>385280745
But I played all 3 in order because I'm autistic like that.
Did the same thing with Persona and Final Fantasy, sort of.

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It was a pretty basic rpg in the gaming sense (although it is pretty old so it gets a pass). I enjoyed it not because of the game play, but there was a certain charm to it. It had some pretty eerie and strange parts that I never really experienced with other games, the music really helped to that feeling as well. I'd say it's worth it to play it. Pic related, music in this part gave me a weird feeling.

>>385279179
yet mother 3 winds up being void of any kind of adventurous feeling
a good story doesn't detract from the rest of the experience

the rest of the experience was harmed by the story

>>385282054

Mother 3 is fucking terrible compared to Mother 1 AND 2, I swear to God people must have played 3 first and then expected the same hand holding that went on for nearly 6 hours in that game.

>>385282018
>But I played all 3 in order because I'm autistic like that.
Mah fucking nigga, in my honest opinion you either go in release order appreciating every tiny change and concept evolution or just go home and keep playing FOTM crap and forget about all classics.

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Why weren't there any Flying Man in Mother 3?
Did Lucas have no courage?

>>385282504
Lucas never went to anyone's magicant.

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>>385282504
Lucas just didn't have that power

>>385282591
man. Mother 3 really is an in name only sequel

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>>385282765
What, you wanted the game to be exactly like the other two?

Itoi has said he knew some elements of mother 3 would be disappointing to fans, and I love him for that. I'm happy he had the balls to do a sequel that was different.

I'll dump fanart of all three games, we need to stop the fighting.

>>385280552
A truly great game stands the test of time.

>>385282765
Yes because you know, Porky definetely is a new character, and all the references to Ness never happened.

>>385283278
>play System Shock this year
>it's fucking amazing

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it's the setting that's the best part. locations were fun to explore and kept me invested the whole way through.
most rpg's are just some washed up variation of tolkien's high fantasy or generic warring space republic

>>385283367
Adding to this
>play deus ex for first time in 2014
>becomes my favorite game of all time

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Which game had the best Magicent?

>>385283748
Mother 1.

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>>385283748
Mother 1's magicant. Ness' is sillier but I like the mystery and almost subtle weirdness of Maria's magicant.

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>>385283748
1

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>>385275701
I feel its pretty overrated yes, but its still a classic.

I like the tone most of all, I love stuff which starts off with a nice pace and tone before suddenly turning into something weird and unnerving at the end.

Fuck the limited inventory tho, that gets really annoying really quick.

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Think Jeff was right, think these two got hitched?

>>385275701
I'm going to go ahead, and throw my two cents in. Haven't really read every single post in this thread so if I cover any previous made points etc, hats off to those anon(s). Earthbound to me, is one of the few videogames that meant more to me than just having fun, or escaping from reality for a few hours. I genuinely love Earthbound, just not entirely for it being a videogame.

Videogame wise this game can be pretty rough. There are times where it's not very clear where, or what to do. Like some other older RPGs it suffers from this. Talking to every NPC usually puts you into the right direction, but furthermore, as a sort of nod to it's own short comings there is a handy NPC that will literally give you a hint for a small fee. This quirkiness is not forced, or cringey, at least in my opinion.. It's filled with love. Which is a major theme in this game series.

The amount of culture references are to long to list here as many probably already know by now, or can easily watch numerous videos on the subject of Earthbound. For me, when I talk about Earthbound being a great game, what I actually mean to say is it's a great experience. A experience that was made with genuine love by someone. Few videogames can be considered art as pretentious as that sounds. Again, in my opinion Earthbound manages this. One such tidbit that was interesting to me was the font used for Mr. Saturns, in saturn valley was formed from Itoi's daughter's own handwriting. Showing how this man poured love into various little aspects of this game.
I wouldn't say Earthbound is a very good game. With art it's subjective what you really take from it. I think many perspectives are skewed because as a child your mind only processes, and really sees/understands so much. That sort of nostalgia goggles kick in as you fondly remember adventuring about threed, fourside, and other locales, versus a grown adult tediously walking about trying to figure out where to go next.

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>people think 3 isn't the best when it had everything Earthbound had plus a better combat system and story

>>385284007
I've personally played mother 1, Earthbound, and Mother 3 and Earthbound is my favorite of the three. Mother 1 being second in my own opinion. Sadly like any fan base you'll have some Earthbound fans rave about this being a gaming masterpiece which as I said before I feel is misleading. It's just one of the few videogames that I truly feel surpasses the simple game medium. Really arguing the case that a videogame can make you feel, and experience something from the norm.

As fucking gay as that sounds.

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>>385283936
All signs point to yes.
Or maybe that in-spite of living only a town away and sharing so many experiences they gradually grew apart and stopped seeing each other, like many friends do growing up.

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>>385283984
Cool, you going to dump art too?

>>385284046
Doesn't really capture that sense of exploring the world like EB does.

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>>385284093
yeah. I got a few images I can contribute

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>>385283936
Seems likely.

Ninten and Ana make a better couple though, and Tracy can show up every now and then for a spicy trio.

>>385284007
I guess I should clarify that I never really had a problem figuring out where to go next, I just kind of got tired by how much it seemed to drag on.

I would say that playing it felt like I was playing through a work of love, and there are just too few games that accomplish that.

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>>385284124
Now I don't agree with you, anon, but lets say that's true.
Does that really change anything that I put in my post? Having a better sense of exploration doesn't make up for the gameplay flaws 2 has compared to 3.

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>>385284182
Thanks, anything is good.

Anyone know what's happening here? I love this artist but they do a lot of these comics i can't understand sadly. great art though.

>>385284279
Found 3's battle system more annoying than anything, especially with emulator sync issues.

I'm in Moonside and holy Christ I want to kill myself.

What do I even do here? Everyone just teleports me around and with no Paula this is a total slog. I feel like I constantly need a map to even progress in EB.

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One thing I love and hate about Mother is all those Indie RPG maker games which got inspired by it.

I love seeing people take a page from Mother and try make there own weird RPG with themes I've not seen before. They wont be as good as the source but to see someone put there stuff out for others to enjoy and look at is pretty neat, I remember playing OFF and really digging the hand drawn sprites and abstract setting and I recently played LISA which really scratched my Mad Max love

But then I kinda get really annoyed at those who just pretty much copy shit from Mother with no class or understanding of what made it good in the context of the game. Ever since Undertale was released, I keep seeing people try putting kickstarters up for "MY TOTALLY ORIGNAL MOTHER INSPIRED GAME" which steals parts or jokes from Mother 1 for 1 and just slap the 'inspired' tag on it.

>>385284639
Ah, anon. You're telling the truth. So why are you spoiling your words?

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>>385284639
Have you played Metal Max Returns? If you like Mad Max the Metal Max games should be your thing.

>>385275701
That's pretty fair.
Personally, it's my favorite game, but I can comprehend it's flaws.

>>385284627
Blond guy in front of the hospital i think teleports you to the right set up, eventually you get to a room with a Mr. T looking npc, and a all black silhouette. The shadow walking around when spoken to will leave with you after talking to Mr. T. Then proceed to pretty much any blond haired NPC to tele to the sea captain NPC, pass him with shadow guy, then fight a boss to get out. Luckily you can rest right before the boss if you know your way it's not a long walk at all. Just have ness blast it with psi beta.

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Sorry to fans of M3, it seems the folder I picked is mostly for M1 and some M2. I have all my mother fanart spread out among multiple sds and usbs, different ones have different stuff.

>>385284959
Thank you, anon, holy Christ I hate this place.

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>>385275701
>Just beat this

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From the artist of the Rhythm Heaven games.

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>>385284729
Because the second you mention stuff like LISA or Undertale in a Mother thread the whole place gets derailed instantly.

>>385284813
I'll have to look into it, thanks for the recommendation

>>385285105
that's a cute paula

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>>385285014
Worry not.

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>>385285118
Great series and unlike any other jrpg I played. It does really interesting things, like absolutely no magic system at all.
>>385285157
I have never played any of the games but that guy makes cute art.

>>385285026
Moonside once you know what you're doing is a fun romp, other wise the gas pumps, and hydrants can fuck your day up. Or the dali clock time stop combos. Unless jeff, and ness are lvl 30+ with jeff having his laser beam gun weapon it's a pain. I usually avoid all encounters as I can. Since they are rather easy to dodge. at least the fire ones..

>Laser beam gun is bought from the pawn shop npc alllll the way in the back of fourside, he sells a broken gadget or something similiar.

It is a great game made better by it being a cult hit turned into a cultural phenomenon. I won't deny my nostalgia for it. It was the first game I bought with my own money. I love the game and if you haven't played it you should fucking do it.

Ocarina of Time is also vastly overrated.

@385279807
Can I give you some advice next time.you try this? Tone it down a little. You've flown in heavy and really try hardy. Try just being subtle or something, like why bother with this when the better game is now on the ps4 or something.

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>>385285309
I believe it's the guy hidden in the Fourside mall that sells you that. I know he at least is where you buy the bottle rockets.

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threed is honestly one of the best parts of the game

earthbound in a nutshell: terrible game mechanics but incredibly emotionally affecting and memorable

>>385285403
Nope, it's the sunglasses wearing guy in the back alley allll the way back in fourside.Usually surrounded by mad taxis or some shit. There may be a junk vendor in the tiered mall/shop, but I have never utilized one. Usually just hit the sports store and tool.

>>385285309
Yeah I've got the laser beam thankfully and I ended up leveling a bit from the mole dungeon. So I'm not exactly dying or anything but its a total PP drain.

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>>385285436
No shame in that, we all have our favorite parts. I really do love nearly every part personally, except the monkey caves. The monkey caves are bit annoying.

One thing I found to be interesting about the first two games is that despite the eight melodies being plot-critical to beat the game, they're at least partially nonlinear. I was surprised at this year's SGDQ and just how much of the Your Sanctuaries they just left to clean out at the end.

>>385285026
I think the only thing that makes it so bad is that you don't have Paula the entire time.
Hated how she gets kidnapped for so fucking long, I would like Fourside better if she didn't get kidnapped.

>>385285583
Well like I said luckily the hotel is right nearby. And with Ness at like 130ish pp you shouldn't have any trouble at all. Like 4/5psi betas and done.

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>>385285537
I wouldn't say terrible mechanics, it has it's fair share of good mechanics. Things like the on field enemies and auto win may seem small but I think people take them for granted.

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>>385285436
I liked Twoson better, but Threed's change of pace and atmosphere was great.

Too bad the game goes downhill after you are done with Threed. Fourside was so disappointing considering it was a big city with very little to do, and every other town is much smaller.

>>385275701

Imagine if you had played it when you were a kid in the 90's.

>>385285787
auto-win is borderline irrelevant, it rarely happens and only saves a couple of seconds.

managing your party's items, on the other hand? especially jeff's? a game-long nightmare.

the battle system is also nothing special, and the difficulty curve is straight-up reversed from what it should be.

the overall journey ness and his friends go on, though... it's magical. it's just not a very good video game as far as rules, systems and usability.

>>385285436
I used to live in a town like Threed for yeaaars. I mean Earthbound is supposed to mimic residential areas, and all that.. But still. Threed is a comfy place, and the atmosphere before, and after are both top notch.

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>>385285828
>finding out that average/decent rpg you played as a kid has a shit ton of ravenous fans who have never even played the game and only know it from Smash Bros and the internet

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>>385284087
>in-spite of living only a town away and sharing so many experiences they gradually grew apart and stopped seeing each other, like many friends do growing up.
why do you hurt me so

>>385285583
Also if you think that's bad wait till you get to a certain bologna sandwich eating boss..

>Implying this is your first play through

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>>385285920
Fair enough. I find it funny how Earthbound, a game that has little to no backtracking, was the game that incorporates a system that makes backtracking not terrible.

Persoanlly I really enjoy the simple DQ system but the difficulty is definitely not balanced.

People call M1 bullshit but I find it actally has good balance. The nenemies are strong but psi in that game is more powerful then M2 or M3.

>>385286098
It actually is, and I'm pretty unspoiled beyond NESSNESSSNESSNESSNESSNESSNESS being the final boss.

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>>385286020
They had a life altering adventure anon, I don't think their bond can be broken.

>>385277474

It felt good being able to identify everyone in that picture.

>>385286098
the sandwich does nothing. "the clumsy robot's hp were maxed out!" is a lie.

The best part of the game is either walking out of the tunnel and onto the bridge to Fourside for the first time with the music to greet you (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWNTcP1uqM&) or when the Runaway Five plays you out at the end of the game, with a great mashup of their music and the intro credits

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>>385285920
The item management was an enjoyable aspect to me.

The game is really easy though, so once you know what you're doing, you'll only be carrying non-story relevant items for hoarding habits.
But it is still a cool aspect which I like. I have more fun carrying around food and different spices, using the selling sign to get rid of what I don't need, and stuff like that.

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>>385286285
The game's have great casts, it's hard to forget them.

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>>385284639
Having gone back to play Earthbound i'm amazed by how much shit Toby actually flat out stole from that game.

>The Snowman in Undertale is ripped straight from Ness's mind
>Tsundere is basically Lil UFO
>Alot of Samples used by Undertale where the same used by Earthbound (Venus for Napstablook's/Dummy music and THE PLACE for the True Labs battle music
>Fucking True ending just being a boring Mother 3 final boss rehash.

It actually deducted alot of enjoyment knowing half of the stuff is pretty much copy/pasted.

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Not fanart but cool none the less. Miyazaki and Itoi are actually somewhat good friends, Itoi worked on a lot of Ghibli films.

>>385286098
Luckily he was clumsy enough that on my second try he didn't use a single damaging move on me. Now the REAL bullshit was when you would get a ghost of starman and nuclear reactor robot together every single damn time you fight.

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If anyone knows what's happening here please tell me.

>>385282017
lol, every mother fan should play Soul Hackers or any Devil Summoner games first before they touch Nocturne

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>>385286480
Itoi is such an alpha.

He is a a sitcom, reality tv and talk show celeb, a successful writer, a reviewer and even succeeded in making his own videogame series.

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Dumb trivia because I know this stuff: In the the Mother 1 English prototype some of the npcs were altered as they worried they looked too similar to Peanut's characters.

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>>385286816
Itoi is pretty damn cool. On his Japanese wikipedia page I believe has over a hundred things listed under "occupation".

Here's a cool pic of him skydiving.

>>385286663
Man this just makes me want things I'll never have like a Ghibli style retelling of Earthbound or Mother 3.

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>>385286757
>tfw DebiSama translation is in NEVER EVER status

And I fucking love Soul Hackers. But I haven't played Raidou.

>>385286346
I'm not even complaining about the maxed out as a certain something happens regardless. I'm talking about the attack that hits both party members that would happen twice in a row in my recent play through..

My level ups have been really great, just that boss fight was really unlucky for me.

>>385286885
That's the first thing my parents had said upon seeing Earthbound; "are those the peanuts?"

I bet Itoi is a fan

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>>385286742
Yes

post some Li'l Miss Marshmallow faggots

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>>385287152
The mother series came from Itoi's interest in Western culture. He grew up in the 50's and 60's when Japan would often import a lot of media like television and movies from the US. That's why the first two games have a sort of 50's feel to them, there silly versions of how a outsider sees the US through the media of 50's and 60's.

>>385286673
Did the ghost have the psi reflecting shield? I can't remember.. I want to say just use psi omega with ness but that seems to easy iirc...

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>>385286885
So much effort went into that localization, yet it never saw the light of the day until very recently.

NoA went full retard in that regard.

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>>385287389
Postan worst girl

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>>385287416
It was against them honestly. The game was expensive to produce having a battery save feature, the snes was almost out, and jrpgs were still not really popular in the West. I have heard they had a huge 80 paged guide book titled "George's Journal" planned to be included with every copy, guess the guide idea was later used with Earthbound.

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>>385287389

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>>385287520
>>385287618
fuck you. she's a good meido

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>>385287618
The Thunder Tower and its buildup was my favorite part of the game.

>game is over 20 years old
>play it recently
>"gee guys, I just don't understand the hype"

You're the same faggot who thinks the Model T was terrible shit. Kill yourself, retard.

>>385287393
Ghost didn't, but Last Starman had not only the shield but also heal omega so he could revive enemies, plus he had fucking starstorm omega so he could deal 800 damage if he felt like it. luckily he was much less common.

>>385275701
It's a good game with flaws, but is a very enjoyable ride in the end. Sadly, hipsters who only knew about the game from the BEE GAY FAIYA spamming Smash kid decided to preach the game as the greatest interactive piece of software mankind has ever known and that pretentious bullshitty attitude led to the creation of the abomination of coding known as Undertale

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>>385287939
Look how mad you are

cave of the past was hard than the final boss
>all that PK Starstorm spam

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Another thing I like about the games are the fancy and weird food items.

I would love to try strawberry tofu, peanut cheesebar or a hotdog sushi.

>>385288013
>I'm not retarded, you're just mad

kys

>>385276447
Earthbound is a crazy ride through a bunch of zany set pieces. Mother 3 is truly one of the best stories ever written into a video game and it's not even a pretentious indie walking simulator on Steam

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>>385288018
Ah, my waifu

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>>385288064
Look how still mad you are

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>>385288018
I remember the idea of Strawberry Tofu was made as Itoi was purposely trying to think of a food for snobby people. I like how strawberry tofu is one of the few things to be in all three games.

>>385288018
i want a game with red snapper pizza

>>385288129
Better to be angry rather than retarded.

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>>385288123
A fellow man of taste.

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>>385281781
>story
>1>3>2

This dude knows what's good.

>>385282017
I believe Digital Devil Saga is a better transition, mechanically speaking. Story wise is a different matter, but why discuss that when Nocturne is suggested anyways?

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>>385288123
>>385288639
I wish she got more cool art. For being a punchy tomboy there is a serious lack of fanart of her punching shit.

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>>385289063
She has it a lot better in the group pics, but there's barely any good solo pics.

>>385286480
>great casts
>posts M3
Good one

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>>385289453
Nice shitpost. All three games have great casts.

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>>385289387
And none of mine are worksafe

>>385282391
Or maybe it's because Mother 1 is shite and 2 is just not as good, but still great.

>>385289593
>Lucas has lines but Shitoi forgets and makes him silent
>Duster is silent until chapter 5, where he has to remember a personality he never had
>Kuma is raised by the magypsies and a princess, but these plotlines never mean anything
>every magypsie but Ionia and Fassad are throwaway characters and copies of the same quirky drag queen shit
>Game expects us to feel bad for Hinawa and Claus after 5 minutes of screentime at the prologue
>Flint disappears until the final act
>Porky is rehased from Earthbound but with none of the personal connection he had to Ness
>Shittoi couldn't come up with another character so you get your dog instead
>character development is put on halt once again in chapter 7 to collect sticks
>Alec is reddit personified
>Salsa is the WORST section in the game and exists totally to introduce a bland pure evil anragonist
>Pigmasks are incompetant and wholly unthreatening compared to the blandest of enemies
>DCMC is a retread of the Runaway 5
>Wes is a completely contradictory character, one moment verbally abusing Duster and twerking his ass in the next
>Leder exists as an exposition dump and serves no purpose than to reveal the most inconsequential plot twist in the history of gaming

>>385277673
It both has better gameplay and better story

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>>385290765
>Alec is reddit personified
wat

It's cool. I like Mother 1 the most, though, it just nails its atmosphere perfectly. I wish Nintendo had released it on 3DS VC.

>>385290913
>le BRAP joké

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>>385290765
Eh, I agree that they could have been stronger, everyone I mean, but I still love the cast. The game had a pretty long development hell, I acknowledge that a lot was lost but I still love the game.

>>385290765
>Porky is rehased from Earthbound but with none of the personal connection he had to Ness
That's not really fair, its not really a rehash when its the same character but after the events of EB.

post music assholes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmZMMSDx3Yg

>>385291228
>a lot was lost

Out of all the "what could have beens" the only one I still wonder about is the minecart scene.

>>385282054
I agree with this. I like M3 but prefer EB. EB was friends traveling the world to complete a quest. M3's story is decent and there's some adventure stuff but that's all the latter half of the game for the most part. It's mostly a single area but I give it props for going the time route.

>>385282054
I don't know, I kind of like the world of Mother 3. There's this great growth/decay of the village as the Happy Boxes come into play, for example.

Maybe it doesn't feel as big as EB but it feels very distinct and memorable. The areas pop for me more than a lot of stuff in EB.

>>385291658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37ye1GfmCuQ

>>385291657
It's similar to DIO. In Jojo (inb4 le jojo reference) Part 1 builds up the rivalry between Jonathan and Dio with events starting from their childhoods and culminating with them both sinking with the ship. Then DIO comes back to life and its up to Jotaro to stop him despite DIO being some random guy who happened to kill his great great grandpa 100 years ago. And then DIO is supposed to be rivals with Jotaro despite them never meeting until the last battle and having almost no personal connection.You spend more time fighting DIO's goons than fighting against him. Similar to how Porky's whole deal is how he wanted to be Ness's friend but Ness pushed him away at different parts of his journey and he descended into evil, now he's causing some shit which inadvertently inconviniences Lucas so its up to him to stop him but only at the end do they clash but none of your problems are caused directly by his intererence, but the action of his goons.

>>385279759
Playing through it right now after beating Mother and can agree on this. Earthbound's biggest flaws to me so far is that there are no characters to care about, no real story other than isolated events on a quest to "save the world," and I've got to grind even more than in an NES rpg, jesus. The NPCs and quirky dialogue often get me to chuckle, but I'm really not even enjoying the game as much as I did the Undertale demo back in 2013. That game just has so much more charm, even I would have liked it to be a bit more. I'm still looking forward to Mother 3 though.

>>385280541
>logical barriers
ok, no, too many times in Earthbound are you stopped and have no idea what to do and you end up having to backtrack, sleep at a hotel, or some other crap. I haven't had too much trouble, but I feel lucky finding these ways to progress, rather than "aha!"

>>385280947
>>385281005
I played FF7 for the first time early this year, and after playing 1-6 and not enjoying them all too much, but not quite looking forward to 7 thinking it would be overhyped, I can easily say it immediately climbed to one of my top favorite games. Final Fantasy 7 really is that fucking good man, I'm sorry.

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>>385293225
Mother 3's cast has more defined personalities, some like this and some don't. It definitely isn't something in M3.

>>385291658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOcWTQmTMQ

Itoi please just make MOTHER4

>>385283367
1 or 2? I personally think 1 is a bit better than 2.

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>>385286480
>Duster using his limp leg as a dead weight for his kicks

Huh, that makes sense actually.

>>385293225
If you're grinding you're playing wrong. Use your PSI and items better.

>>385291658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMhLPiG1juM

Jorge Fuentes has redone most of the ost from Earthbound as well as a bunch of castlevania games. One of my fav music makers when it comes to videogame osts.

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>>385281339

>>385291658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=476bC1pbkU4&index=8&list=PLkzYvjN6C9EcqRPsxRfoQOruj-lkDr-Jo

Another good composer for some earthbound tracks.

>>385294165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v04RZANLXQ&index=11&list=PLkzYvjN6C9EcqRPsxRfoQOruj-lkDr-Jo

My personal favorite of his.

underageb&

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>>385294074
This guy remastered all 250 songs in Mother 3.

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>>385294416
Fuck.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcylRVzj6PbdrpHis1MOulJ_TrVtsAUNq

This game is pure nu-male core and a game for retarded underages. I don't want games that teach me how to accept blasphemy. Only libshits play this game. Remember who you are, 4chan! don't fall under Reddit hands!
-10/10

>>385294416
>>385294472
Was going to say..

>Favorite track Hard Rain
>37 seconds

For fucks sake.

Mother has the best soundtrack of any NES game, right?

>>385294623
Well to be fair the song itself is short, maybe just find a way to loop it.

>>385294713
>best soundtrack of any NES game
I don't know Kirby's Adventure is pretty good.

>>385294713
Gimmick!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OshyhWVquA0

>>385294713
I'd lean, and say yes. But, Megaman 2 comes damn close

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>>385294713
I wouldn't say "best" when the likes of MegaMang 3 are around, but I will tell ya this: Every track has a very specific emotion it wants to convey and does it spectacularly. Some pieces I wouldn't listen to out of the blue, only in the right mood. But holy fuck is the title screen music something outta this world.

>>385294958
This dude knows what's good.
>tfw Strange Memories of Death

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>>385288123
>>385288639
>>385289063
>>385289387
are you people posting kumatora without me?

2 best songs of the series are polyanna and the Gymnopedie cover in m3

>>385295459
>Liking a public domain song

>>385295674
I could listen to it for the rest of my life

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I don't like mother 3 because I kept expecting Duster to become as useful as Jeff and he just wasn't

>>385275701
You're basically right OP.

>>385296457
No party member was ever as disappointing as Poo, so it's all good.

>>385279759
>>385293225
Are you guys serious? undertale owes A LOT to Earthbound... No Mother seriesn no undertale.

>>385297110
First reply was a shitpost.

>>385297110
Its a meme you dip.

>>385275701
Yes, it's a very good game.

There's a lot of little things in earthbound that I wish other games did, like "you bought new equipment, do you want to equip it now? Do you want to sell me your old equipment?" It's such a small thing but it saves me a lot of menu hopping

I also really like the rolling hp counters and would like more games to do stuff like that. There's nothing more tense than taking mortal damage and trying to mash your way through the combat to win the fight before collapsing. Also mother 3's musical combo system was a ton of fun and an excellent way to increase difficulty on top of just increasing stats

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this'll never come out, will it?

3>2>1.

>>385298125
I'm going to have a hard time enjoying this game if it does ever come out because its fandom is already nothing but obnoxious loud idiot children

>>385298297
I thought they changed the name or some shit

>>385296457
Get the ultra boots start of chapter 5 and he becomes quite the ass kicker. Those boots carry him straight through chapter 8.

Personally I don't think anyone in M3 was useless. Offensive PK were balanced so Kumatora wasn't some god, defensive PK were a lot more useful making Lucas a war cleric of sorts, food became more useful so Duster and Boney can effectively quick heal the team with their speed.

>>385298429
They did, but its fans are still obnoxious

>>385281339
Don't getme wrong I like final fantasy 7 but it's not even the best JRPG (chrono trigger is) let alone the best game ever made.

>>385296457
What the fuck? Duster's normal attacks completely outdamage the other three, he's almost as fast as Boney, and is a huge fucking tank. His Thief Tools fall off on bosses but he chunks out damage regularly.

He's much better than Boney, who falls off so hard his only purpose is to be an item-bot because he's so fast. But Duster has way more HP and will die a lot less, so he can serve that role as well.

I don't think anyone in M3 was truly useless.

I find a lot of shit in EarthBound to be insufferable after playing Mother 3. Mother 3 made a lot of quality of life improvements that vastly improve the game, doesn't start off as brutally as EB does with Solo Ness, and has a much better story.

EB's weirdest parts are awesome though. I like Tanetane Island more than most of EB but when EB is on, it's on.

It's interesting as a "modern Dragon Quest set in a faux America" but I don't think the gameplay holds up very well.

>>385280552
Actually, even for 1994 it was kinda bland. It went for the most barebones overworld aesthetic (even if it was technically intentional) and gameplay when it was actually a solid year after FF6 hit the scene and evolved the genre

>>385285397
>@385279807
Newfag

>>385298849
Duster has so much shit it's great.

Ailments and debuffs at no cost, sometimes gets a free attack at the start, sometimes he turns enemies around at the start of battle, can turn enemies around randomly when an ambush happens, and his combo notes were fucked up on the initial release, so I had no problem comboing must songs to 16 with him.

>No Mother 2.5 set between Earthbound and Mother 3 that leads up to the White Ship

>>385275701
Still have the greatest VGM of all time though

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>>385287060
Paranorman had a pretty strong Mother feel to it imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mjlAItuw3s

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>>385298801
>chrono trigger
pleb detected. Most JRPGs from that era are better than chrono trigger, the only people remember that game is the DBZ inspired art and it was their first JRPG