It's officially time to stop shitting on this game. It's

>>385249842
Nah, it's shit

I still really enjoy the game. It has gotten better since launch, but some of the season 2 changes are really baffling.

maybe super sfv will be okay
the game feels like what happens when you put indifferent, untalented, or unambitious chaps mixed with western and eastern origins onto a project originally fostered by a few competent, idealistic, and fun set of designers and developers

fuck you

t.cuckfiend

>Abigail

Game is so fucking dead

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>mfw abigail is actually legit

>>385250445
Not liking Abigail is a meme at this point.

>>385249842
Sure, you got a simplified sequel to the game where every character fights at the same range, utilizes the same gameplan, lack decent reversals, and never stick to zoning or defensive neutral. Good for you, sad for 2d capcom fighters.

Although SFV doesn't even have characters that require good execution to play optimally or any defensive mechanics like SF3 did, so I guess it's even worse. And the funny thing is I don't even think SFV is that bad of a fighter with all of those flaws, it just only rewards one type of player and isn't very satisfying as a time investment (like most fighting games are).

It's never gonna change either. It's clear that they don't want characters that are good at defensive neutral in the game for whatever reason. Akuma and Ibuki can't throw projectiles while jumping backwards, Kolin can't double jump backwards, Guile's sonic booms are easier than ever to jump over and punish, every character's walkspeeds and normals were made slower and shorter ranged respectively, Juri lost negative edge anti-air fireballs, but characters like Alex and Urien get to stay the same because they already abide by the totalitarian design philosophy Capcom has for the game.

It's just really streamlined to the point where no matter which character you pick, you have to play the high risk offensive game and every match eventually ends in some type of slugfest. It's a shame too because Street Fighter games almost always have something for everybody. Kinda hope Capcom is dethroned for this, and if the result is more obscurity for fighting games I'll take it.

>>385250546
Sure his character design is shit, but he's actually pretty fun to play

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>>385249842

The one we deserve but not the one we need

>>385251503
>Revelator that low

Shit list. SHIT

>>385251503
>tekken 7
>low tier

Great bait, at least got me

>>385251503
SfxT above anything other than pure garbage tier

>>385251503
it doesn't even have kofxiv yet it has tekken 7
>sfxt that high
what the fuck

>>385249875

honestly amazed people still play this trash.

capcom fans are so pathetic

>>385252121
You're right, it should be into the trash tier.

>>385251503
>GG relevator low tier
>Tekken 7 and 3 low tier
>while multiple MK games are mid tier
>ninja storm having to do anything with the list
stop spamming your shitty taste in every fighting game thread

>>385251503
>mortal kombat above anything
Lmao

>>385251937
>>385252474
>>385252991
Nothing quite like game with massive fucking input delay, easy inputs and retarded comeback mechanics, am i right.

Yeah fuck off you underage queerlord.

>>385252991
>Tekken 7 and 3
>Anything but low tier
This is how you spot a casual who knows nothing about fighting games.

>>385253175
>complaining about comeback mechanics while saying USF4 is top tier

are you mentally handicapped?

>>385252991
as soon as you stop falling for it

385253175<<
don't give attention to this brain dead retard, this bait image is posted in every fg thread

>>385251503
All tier lists like this are bullshit because there's no way the guy who made it has actually played all of those games competitively.

>>385249842
Abigail is strangely endearing, I expected an Hugo 2.0 retard but it turns out he's some sort of comedic relief bara a little too emotionally invested in cars.

>>385251503
Pretty accurate

>>385251503
Third strike is ass, who are you kidding with this list?

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>>385253175
>burst
>comeback mechanic

>>385253698
Put some effort into your bait anon

I do believe its the prequel.

>>385253698
fuck off

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>>385253738
>Guts
>Hellfire
>Dangertime
>Not comeback mechanics

You stupid fucking retard

>>385253698
09er detected

>>385249842
Yes, because 3S was the worst Street Fighter prior to SFV. However 3S was obviously ruined by one degenerate mechanic, parry. It would have balance issues otherwise but parry shits on the whole fighting game formula.
SFV's shittiness is endemic. It's in the walkspeeds, high input lag, stubby normals, stilted risk/reward in favor of rushdown and crush counter buttons, v-trigger, and so on. You cannot fix SFV without redesigning the entire game.

>>385254383
What do you consider a good fighting game?

>>385254383
t. 09er who got bodied on 3SO after trying to play it like SF4

>>385254383
The only things wrong in 3s are yun and chun.

>>385254383
this
>>385254469
For 2d capcom games, ST and CVS2 are good, the SF4 series was alright but flawed. 3s and SFV are just too uniform and lack differing character archetypes.

>>385254469
Most decently well known fighting games are good. Among Street Fighters, ST remains the best.

And oh, whiffing normals for meter was also pretty terrible in 3S. Nixing that would remove Chun's stupid turtle strategy.

>>385254741
>CVS2
>good
lol

>>385254383
In terms of balance, yes parry is shit, but it allows the player element to take front stage, which is why people like it so much. It makes mindgames and understanding the other player and their habits all the more important. Inversely, SFV is made in a way where that almost doesn't matter at all.

>>385254741
>>385254769
See I'm not the biggest ST fan. It's a classics and basically founded the genre but it's just not really to my taste.

>>385254769
>everyone can build meter in 3S
>bitches that Chunb-li builds meter
what did anon mean by this?

>literally UNGA BUNGA ME JUMP: The Game
>successor to 3S

LOL

>>385255387
Remember "that" Evo moment? Consider that Justin bodied every player prior to that by whiffing normals and poking into super. Nothing against him, it worked. It was the game that was retarded.

>>385255113
ST is still great. ST is so fucking good that god damn T.Hawk got bumped up massively in tiers because of tech found over a decade later.

>>385255552
>turtle style is only style
remember when everyone can parry and most can rush down?

SFV is unironically the worst SF game ever.

>>385255782
You must only be aware of like 2 other SF games.

I want to thank SFV for turning me on to other fighting games.

>>385255387
nigga what
The problem is that Chun can whiff b+HP like crazy to get a shitload of meter, more than most other characters who can only whiff MP safely at footsie range, because b+HP is the fucking jesus button. Chun also has one of the best SAs in the game so easy whiffing = more supers = easy victory.

>>385255779
Ya but Chun leverages whiff meter the most. Yun is also dumb but would be mostly that dumb regardless of uninteractive meter building.

>>385255552
Let's rewind two years to 2002 where Justin was Japan's cumdump and got bodied by literally everyone from Japan, especially Tokido.

>>385255782
>What is Street Fighter: The Movie

>>385255387
It favours certain dumbfuck gameplans more than others. Shit Urien's ideal game plan is to just whiff normals until he can Aegis Reflector.

>>385255731
Fei Long recently jumped up too iirc.

>>385249842
no go fuck urself and fuck that game too

>>385255979
Are you implying that Chun is still not top tier at high level, and whiffing godlike normals into godlike super is not a major part of that?

>>385256204
You're a retard for implying I'm implying that.
>whiffing godlike normals into godlike super
Yeah, I remember when Justin confirmed that sick whiff into super.
The issue isn't that she could build meter with her meter, the issue is that with 2 bars she could hit you with one button, make you guess once, and kill you in a single sequence.

>>385256508
*with her buttons

>>385256508
>the issue is that with 2 bars she could hit you with one button, make you guess once, and kill you in a single sequence.
sounds exactly like sfv

>>385256508
Overall, building meter with normals only takes things away, especially since parry means you can't even throw a fireball because it'll just give them meter anyways. It's uninteractive. If you want meter, do a special which has more potential counterplay or walk up and hit them. Either way involves actual risk and decision making and is therefore an improvement. (I'm a bit reserved on DBFZ's powering up but it probably won't be a problem.)

>>385256745
It's almost like SFVbabbies like 3S and ST/CVS2/SF4fags hate SFV

>>385256745
Nah. Even Balrog can only do like 500-600 damage with one guess.
>>385256859
How the fuck does having the ability to play defensively and build meter take away things when it gives players more options to work with during the match?

>>385256925
I absolubtely love sf3 and completely fucking hate sf3.
It's almost like no one including anyone that actually played sf3 like most of you 09ers knows that chun was never liked and you rarely see her unless it's in top competitive setting and even then she's quite beatable.

Last cooperation cup was won by an alex at the end of the match.

Hating on SFV is the most reddit thing to do in 2017

>>385257003
Because there was already defensive play in Street Fighter. I know you never saw one in 3S, but fireballs are pretty good and they even build meter!

>>385257085
>I absolubtely love sf3 and completely fucking hate sf3.
wew, meant 5 at the end there

>>385257242
oh fuck off
the shitty early access game deserves all shit it gets

>>385257271
>players shouldn't have more options
>3S fireballs are pretty good
Please stop trolling me. It's not polite.

>>385257313
What's early access about it? It has lobbies it has ranked it has training mode. That's an entire fighting game right there.

>>385257313
SFV unironically now has more content than games like GG and Tekken

>>385257085
Nah, I meant that people that SFVbabbies retroactively like 3S. Not necessarily the other way around. I don't think I've ever seen an SFV fan hate on 3S.

>>385249842
It's officially time to stop shilling on this game. It's not the prequel to 3rd Strike that we deserve.

>>385257242
SFV is fucking shit

>>385257460
still less content than USFIV

>>385257410
Fireballs are good in other games. They might even be pretty good in 3S if they weren't deeply negative on the risk/reward scale due to parry.

>>385257271
>I know you never saw one in 3S
fucking savage, although fireballs are ass in SFV too anyway. Not as a gameplan anyway. Every character has to play the "rushdown" game eventually.

>>385257460
>This steaming pile of shit shit smells slightly less than these other two steaming piles of shit

>>385257493
No no, it's exactly the game 3S incels deserve.

>>385257242
wow this post really changed my mind on SFV. I sure don't want to be like those redditors.

>>385257615
>other games
But we're talking about 3S. Not ST or 4.
Even without parry, they're slow and do shit for damage/chip. Only time they're worth a damn at all is if you pump meter into them.

>Chun playing defensively and building meter to fish for super in ST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeksKQudpQ#t=1m
>Chun playing defensively and building meter to fish for super in Turd Strike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1r82kmXSPo

GUD GAEM

>>385257615
Fireballs in 3rd Strike are almost as crap as A3 anyways.

>>385251503
Why does EX3 get ignored in favor of EX2 Plus?

>>385257750
And if you read the thread, both parry and whiffing normals for meter were called out.

>>385257750
Urien akuma and remy often use fireballs, ken uses them for combos.
Just because you cant mindlessly throw shit and blockstun someone for 5 minutes like sf2 doesnt means they're useless.

>>385257857
EY EY EY EY EY EY EY EY EY 3Sfags and SFVbabbies will defend this EY EY EY

I main akuma >:)

>>385249842
>sequel to turd strike
>faggots act like this is a good thing
top kek

>>385257857
wow it's almost like letting urien get 2 bars, get you into corner and fall for every mixup is not a thing you should do.

This was also when the west tought urien was extremely shit, didn't knew about charge partitioning, unblockables, setups, aegis use, etc.
Tokido came in and destroyed justin tier whoring chun, which made justin despereately try to change his play style and not let him get bar AT ALL where he lost to footsies.

But I'm sure that 1k lp probably mained juri in sf4 09er knows more about games he hasn't played on his entire fucking life

>>385258176
But anon it's set before 3rd strike.

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Fuck Capcom
Fuck SFV
Fuck MvC Infinite

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>"I think my opponent will jump into the air, I should throw out an anti air"
>They jump
>"Sweet, I predicted them correctly, I will be rewarded for my foresight by damaging them"
>Anti air gets parried

What were they thinking with this game?

>>385249842
>no execution at all, everything's extremely easy to do
>parries have a million frame window and barely reward you
>no substance at all, music is a weird mixmatch of utter shit 80% of the times and actually good stuff for 20%
>no hype at all due to the low execution, everyone can do everything
>no godlike reactions, punishes or 1 frame links with intense mechanics required

this is the complete opposite of sf3

>>385258407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAUP4DC2MzM

Git Gud

>>385258389
Yep SFV sure did a number on footsies, whiff punishing especially.

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>>385254383
Parry ain't the reason 3S is unbalanced.

You don't know what you're babbling about.

>>385257891
I know retard. What's your point?
>>385257937
Urien uses them because they can be angled and reward him with juggles. His angled fireballs also recover quickly so even if they're air parried he's usually fine. If a Urien is using the normal fireball on anyone but Hugo then he's a dipshit and even then he's pretty dumb.
Akuma's air fireballs can leave him with frame advantage even when parried.
Remy is shit-tier in the game and he can spam them almost as hard as O Sagat.
>Ken uses them for combos
Which actually does more damage without the fireball but is there to make it confirm easier. Otherwise, any combo usage is with EX fireball since his normal fireball is so shit that a low forward fireball string can be cheesed at long range just like Akuma's in 4.
So like I said, fireballs are shit with or without the parry.

>>385258546
But anon the music is 80% good.

>>385258592
I didn't say or imply. parry was the reason 3S was unbalanced. In fact I said balance issues would remain without it.

>>385258597
The point is other games were being discussed. And without parry they are still at least a threat on the screen and can't just be eaten for free meter.

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>>385258407
>"I see my opponent cant really parry on reaction so i'll do a jump in"
>"here we go, let's see how it goes"
>they throw random anti air
>"sweet, predicted them correctly, I will now parry it and punish him for doing something reckless"

Nice, feels good to get rewarded by one upping my opponent

>>385258638
And what are you even trying to say then. You're just confirming parries are a mechanic that doesn't break the game.

>>385249842
3rd strike is a shit game too senpai

>>385258749
>a threat
I fucking wish. Ryu's fireball in 3S is still worse than SFV. That's saying a lot. Remy would be the only character whose fireball would significantly benefit from no parries.

>>385259002
Break? No. Make worse? Yes. This discussion has been done to death before. Solid criticism from people like Viscant and Seth Killian has never been answered other than "Kuroda wud bodey them lol", without actually answering the points made.

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Remy in SFV when? He deserves another chance in this series.

>>385259378
he's gay

>>385259378
He's a Guile function

>>385249842
3rd strike is way better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=der4aB0WPbE

>>385259340
>make worse

Oh, personal choices, including from Killian who can't do a DP motion.

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>>385258389
SFV was a mistake.

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http://pervify.com/?mref=IceBurn21

Right on.

>>385259539
>>385259590
I like gays and nobody complains about Zangief. And they could just change his moveset a little to resemble Guile less.

>>385260219
He already has a dive kick and low/high fireballs, the guile meme is just because his look like sonic booms

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>>385258563
Fuck me, this game truly was ahead of its time

>>385251303
ROFL
if you think any of those flaws are new to the sf series, you've never played any of the other games

>>385259705
Let's see some receipts of your superior skill, then. I'm sure you've got tourney placements.

4chan can't accept that Smash and SFV are the only relevent fighting games. (To a lesser extent, Guilty Gear as well)

>>385258246
>this character benefits from whiffing normals like a retard slightly more than this character that bodies most of the cast by whiffing normals like a retard, so it's okay

>>385250223
2.5 corrected a good number of those changes. Though I will agree that though I like the DLC characters, only Abigail has clicked with me so far I can't really count Akuma as new. Kolin, love her, hate how much she has to work for damage output. Ed, love him, can't adjust to his control style, and when I do, he just doesn't flow like motions do.

>>385260420
>Smash and SFV are the only relevent fighting games
>when fucking Pokken destroyed SFV despite releasing exclusively for the Literally Wiiu
>When MKX and Injustice 2 have completely eaten its lunch in every regard

Justify this without memes.

>>385259340
>Solid criticism from people like Viscant
Nope Viscant has no idea what he's talking about and his "criticism" got ripped apart by 3S players.

>>385260349
Yeah no shit. Mouth breathing SF4 fucktards tried to downplay it for fucking years now.

>>385260556
No one plays these games anymore.

Pokken is very bland. NRS games are literal memes.

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>>385250461
Truly.

>>385251503
>t7 and revelator low tier
What an awful chart.

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>>385260449
>whiffing normals
THEY'RE BUILDING METER
Holy fuck have you people even PLAYED third strike once in your life or you just shit on it for no reason.

Justin, playing chun li who has way better buttons and could've gone in, let tokido build TWO whole bars of meter and Urien is EXTREMELY dangerous with one bar, LET ALONE two and does way more with it than a chun does with it.
Justin just sat there overconfident and got blown up because he didn't played correctly, of course tokido is gonna be comfortable with Justin just letting him do that shit.

Instead of spewing shit maybe try to at least inform yourself, since apparently you have never played the game, or apparently ANY older fighting game because most of them gave super meter on whiff.
09ers are truly a retarded breed.

>>385260405
Ok, your criticism of 3S is just personal taste confirmed.

>>385260556
Ok. Maintaining a playerbase matters more for the end user than sales.

>>385260767
The way characters overlap instead of clipping in this game weirds me the fuck out

>>385260449
>whiffing normals like a retard
confirmed for never even playing the game

>>385259340
>Solid criticism from people like Viscant and Seth Killian has never been answered other than "Kuroda wud bodey them lol", without actually answering the points made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fYiuQ8udY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYM0Aw7AHX4

>>385260840
You have fun arguing with that retarded strawman and I will have fun not reading that garbage dump post.

>>385251503
>Tag 2 in Mid tier while T7 is Low Tier

Found the eddy main

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>>385259340
Know who disliked sf3?
Combofiend.
Know who's one of the major wheels behind sfv gameplay?
Combofiend

Anyone here plays 3rd strike on fightcade?
I just want to play some games, I don't care if you body me.

>>385259705
No, it wasn't. Every interaction around parry revolves around this: "I expected him to do something, but he did something different." Fighting games already have this, but parry makes this interaction endemic, and removes most interactions beyond this. There is never a deep chain of events/deep tree of decisions which can arise in other fighting games. 3S parry cuts them short, which is why nobody imitates it.

Assists are a genius mechanic. Burst is a genius mechanic. They add to depth, along with many other good mechanics. Parry makes the game more shallow overall. It utterly ruins many tactics and strategies which other games use to beautiful extent, and focuses on a specific kind of A/B/C interaction which every fighting game already reps.

>>385260449
they're building meter you can see tokido goes full rush mode as soon as he's close to those 2 full bars

>>385251419
Put any other outfit on him and I'm good with him. He's not what I wanted but fuck it. Last three characters were good. I'm not enough a shitter to expect Capcom to constAntly put out content that caters to my tastes.

>>385260835
>t7 and revelator not low tier
What an awful retard.

>>385261065
I would love to anon but im third world and fightcade can be really weird sometimes, depending on the opponent

>>385261174
>doesn't recognize that is literally a bait chart
great job proving you're retarded. it has TT2 in high tier, not a single person on the planet would agree with that being anything above shit tier.

>>385251303
>characters like Alex and Urien get to stay the same because they already abide by the totalitarian design philosophy Capcom has for the game.
I agree with the rest of your post, but Alex lost his tools just like the other characters. For example cross-up stomp was removed. He feels like a different character.

>>385260376
This is bait, right? Nobody can be that retarded.

>>385260932
>33 minutes part 1
>opens with talking with stream chat about SF4 Dan
Nigga I ain't watching all that shit.

>>385261365
>Being such a shitter you think its a bait chart
great job proving you're retarded.

> it has TT2 in high tier
No it doesn't

>not a single person on the planet would agree with that being anything above shit tier.
Oh i see you were just trolling

>>385257698

You'll be a gay nigger Jew lover then.

>>385251303
>>385261590
alex can't wake up EX knee to get out of danger
can't follow anti air off several normals
ex stomp doesn't tracks
completely loss aerial DDT

Urien has no big unblockables
urien has no charge partitioning
urien can't follow up with huge combos off anti air fireball

and many more I cant remember

>>385261676
TT2 was trash, ask any Tekken player.

>>385261132
Every game is about making decisions and parries add way more depth to it, and it is still a risky and most of the time not rewarding if you keep wanting to rely on it. It's definitely not something endemic.

>>385262198
>Still trying this hard to bait

>>385262425
>bait
If you seriously don't know the entire Tekken community minus like 5 players hated TT2 then you don't know what you're talking about. The online was trash and the game was retarded. T7 is much better than T6 or TT2.

>>385262542
This is bait

>>385262623
go to a tournament and ask any tekken players. all the current t7 pros agree that tt2 was shit.

>>385262754
0/10

this is the last (you) you are getting

>>385262926
>>385262623
You literally have no clue what you're talking about.

>>385262198
Why is it trash? I am asking you directly. I have grievances with the game but still enjoy it.

>>385258389
What's this supposed to show? Because all I see is that SF3 and SF4 are so lame that the only characters anyone uses are shotos and Yun, and their "footsies" are so routine that they all use the same low kicks and sweeps to punish the same whiffed dash-in low kicks.

Meanwhile SFV shows off four different characters with wildly different reach on their normals, so their footsies are wildly different for different situations, such as Birdie deliberately using his superior normals in an attempt to catch Boxer trying to charge in. That's exactly what happens and Boxer gets punished.

>>385263189
In 3S and SF4 you see whiff punishing. In SFV you just see whiffing.

>>385263326
The game has really evolved. I saw a lot of whiff punishing in evo top 8.

>>385262926
>>385262754
speak for (You)rself

>>385263376
It's all preemptive though. SFV is so player matchup heavy that you have to have a thorough download on your opponent before people take that risk. Otherwise you can stick a button out and eat a fat crush counter for 40%, knockdown, and corner carry. You can't just play the reactive footsie game in SFV.

>>385263376
Mostly from Punk who has that autistic genius going on. Tokido's attempts were all terrible and looked like the webm, just whiffing MK hoping it catches something. He had more success doing walkup cr.mp or throw or relying on vtrigger air fireballs to get things started.

>>385263376
SFV has generally shitty hitboxes on normals. High input delay compounds the problem.
SFV is just shitty to play. I hope Arcsys takes every last drop of their Marvel marketshare with DBFZ, and another game takes their SF audience away. Capcom doesn't deserve patronage.

>>385263980
agreed, even though I don't think SFV is bad at what it aims to do, it only allows one type of player/playstyle to succeed because of these flaws. It was the first fighting game I played where I actually felt alienated playing it.

SFV is unironically the most abhorrent, slap-in-the face to a franchise I've ever seen. Not even DmC was this bad.

>>385264893
DMC2 was.

>>385264893
At least DmC was funny. SFV just makes me sad.

>>385249842
Even if you ignore all the tourney-faggy shit like 8 frame lag, it's still very, VERY boring.

Especially the general presentation.

It looks like they fell to the same trap as Destiny, where they were aiming for "Simplistic and timeless", but ended up with "Bland and boring."

Also, they were obviously also trying to pull the same shit they did with Street Fighter 4, where they brought the fighting game scene into the new generation. The thing is though, SF4 worked, in part, because there was nothing else really doing what it was doing. SF4 didn't have much competition, at least at first. AND it was actually competently made.

SFV has to compare to the likes of Guilty Gear Xrd, which isn't just gushing with the style and energy that SFV lacks, but is also very well fleshed out and competently made. There's literally no comparison.

>>385264893
How can you honestly believe this.

>>385249842
I started playing the game again since last night and they at least fixed the shitty lobby system. The general gameplay is still garbage though

>>385249842
top 8 different characters, but my season 1 balance lol.

>>385265448
SFV is ass, anon. I understand that you're enjoying it because you're literally the 1 type of player that's allowed to have fun in this game, but Street Fighter games in the past at least had a character for everybody, I feel.

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I really liked USFIV, never played SFV, how do they compare?

>>385265739
That's fine, but saying that a game that doesn't appeal to you is worse than DmC has to be hyperbole.

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>>385258389
Thank god there is a fighting game with real footsies, and not some garbage ass kids play.

>>385265807
You know how Makoto players love to forward dash and oppress you with obnoxious st.MP pressure or axe kick at you all the time? Imagine a game where every character is like that where the tightest link you have to do is 5 frames, so nobody ever drops optimal combos.

>>385257271
Whiff heavies at mid and full screen built more meter.

>>385265836
Not appealing to me is one thing, but only appealing to one player is another. Especially for street fighter.

>>385265807
SF4 was Street Fighter 2 in spirit, and Street Fighter 3 in execution

SFV is SF3 in presentation, but SF2 in execution.

And not even World Warriors SF2. Vanilla SF2.

>>385266038
DmC is a bigger shit on Devil May Cry than SFV is on SF. SF isn't a series that has had majority great games. Garbage like Street Fighter the movie or the EX games.

DmC is a steaming shit on a series that was almost entirely good up until that point. Shit on SFV all you want, but don't downplay how awful DmC is.

>>385265964
There was zero footsies in this garbage you posted, its literally just 2 people taking turns mashing at point blank range.

>>385265964
3D fighting games were a mistake.

>>385265372
Xrd still has variable delay-based netcode and 4-5 frames frames of input lag on PS4. It completely blows SFV the fuck out but lets not give too much credit where it isn't due. It's still lacking compared to a lot of the older games.

all i ever see is "this game sux" but with no reason. what really is the reason this game sucks? i've never played it

>>385258389
nitpick more

Were there any balance changes in the latest update or just Abigail, costumes and stages?

>just went from the bottom of Super Bronze to Silver

I know Silver is still pretty shit, but what the hell? I'd get bodied by anyone in any other SF game.

>>385266815
Not if it was current to have the same shitters playing.

>>385267208
Trust me, I was really shit at SF4. I never broke out of the really shit 500 range.

>>385251503
Ok, I love Darkstalkers, but no one fucking plays Vampire Savior. Why do you assholes consider it top tier? I just don't buy into this bullshit anymore.

VSAV is my favorite fighting game ever too, so I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

>>385249842
I recently started playing 3rd Strike being straight out of SF2 on genesis, I haven't enjoyed a game this much in a long time, can anyone tell me what's up with the roster? It's almost like I was playing a different fighting game with Street Fighter slapped on it

>>385258407
but they predicted you anti-airing so if anything it's your fault for being outplayed

>>385266652
No balance changes

>>385267796
They made all new characters at first, but nobody liked them so they eventually added some of the classic characters. It's a fun game.

You'll also quickly find out that a lot of the complaining about top tiers in 3s isn't because they were broken. It's because half of the cast is hilariously bad.

>>385267796
>>385267945
I forgot mention why SF3 forces you to play defensive so much compared to SF2? It didn't bothered me much I'm just curious

>>385268104
How so? If anything 3s is the much more aggressive game.

You get fucked much harder in ST for spacing poorly and you're almost going to eat a guaranteed mixup on wakeup.

3s lets you actively make hard reads even from a disadvantageous position if you think you know what they're going to do.

>>385267472
Post your Fightcade ID

>>385267472
It's the "in" game to pretend to like. It used to be 3s but that's old and busted now.

>>385268294
Maybe I suck at fighting games or not but everytime I go full on offence I get my shit kicked in I only get advantages from parrying, that wasn't the case in SF2

Is SFV atleast faster than IV in terms of character movement? I didn't like how slow vanilla SFIV was

>>385268609
What character are you playing?

>>385268452
Spot the 16er

>>385268794
Ryu and Ken cause I'm too lazy to memorize other fighter's combo

>>385251503
>/v/
>In charge of making a fighting game tier list


good bait.

>>385268883
No, '09er actually and I have nothing against Vsav, but I know most of the people talking it up haven't played it past an arcade mode level of play.

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>>385249842
>the sequel to 3rd Strike
>that we deserve

>>385268901
Go watch Matsuken or Deshiken and copy all their shit.

>>385268784
A little. Forward dashes generally have lower frame counts and feel more responsive.

>sequel to 3s

I didn't want that. I can already play 3s. 3s didn't suddenly get bad. I wanted SFV.


PS this game is nothing like 3s

>>385251503
>no meltan
shit list

>>385251503
>Tekken
>Mid tier

I'm not a fight game fag myself but Tekken isn't all that bad the combat's much deeper than MK

>>385269721
Its not, tekken lacks any depth or complexity

>>385269960
And you think MK has that with it's 3 button combo?

>>385270136
More than tekken with its 1 button combo

>>385270136
>combo
Combos have nothing to do with a game's depth or complexity. They're pure flash and no substance.
The same goes for Tekken's move bloat. Each character having 80+ moves is a case of being wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.

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>>385270136

this is just an entire thread of people who dont play fighting games flinging shit at other people who dont play fighting games

why do these threads even exist

>>385270535
I played a fighting game once, it was awful

>>385269721
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>385249842
Great b8

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Where is he, /v/?

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>>385271978

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BASED BIG DICK GAIL WORKING THE ANIME NERDS

>>385249842

The longer I played this game, the more I missed S4 of all games.

I'm just gonna play Guilty Gear Rev2 it's a much more fun game than this pile of shit.

Maybe a Super S5 can bring me back after season 2 is done.

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>>385272770
Will people actually make sfm porn of him?

>>385272808
People actually like SF4? I never liked how it played compared to SF2

>>385251503

This garbage dump of opinions needs an update.

>>385267472
post your fightcade then.

>>385258389
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
BE
TEE
EFF
OW

>>385263189
>>385266489
both cucks sf4 babies
you both are fucking pathetic I hope you know that
god you just got fucking owned
mad as fuck

>>385263189
nigger lol
nig
ger

>>385258389
NANI CHARACTER VARIETY?!?!??!
NOT MUH STREET FIGHTER

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>still have to pay to unlock all the characters so you can't practice against the DLC ones unless you go online and fuck up your rank

>>385270490
if you know your opponent is a baby masher, the throwbreak is always 1. that way you can always punish mashers