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Warhammer vidyagaem thread! 40k and fantasy both welcome.

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr is now available for purchase from the developer's website (https://neocoregames.com). You get a game key redeemable on Steam. For some gameplay footage, see: https://youtu.be/IiNkO2rzv3U

Personally, my favorite Warhammer Fantasy game is Vermintide, with Total War: Warhammer and Mordheim in close contention for second place. My favorite Warhammer 40k game remains Dark Crusade, although Space Hulk: Deathwing is climbing up the ladder with every new patch it gets.

What are your favorite Warhammer games, /v/?
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Dark crusade got me into 40k
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The new mammoths in TWW look pretty kewl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKGPLaoikfk
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>>385204874
That looks dank as fuck

I've preordered TW:WH2 so I'll be getting it for free
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I just started playing Chaos Gate. It's a shame that 40k has so few good games when it is a setting ripe for so many good ones.
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>>385203708
martyr looks incredibly dumb
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>>385206840
What is Chaos Gate?
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>>385208434
>what is google
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>>385208480
>Why are you asking Warhammer videogame-related questions in a thread about Warhammer videogames on a board about videogames?
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>>385208647
>why are you wasting time writing "what is chaos gate" and waiting for an answer, when you could've gotten an instant answer by typing "chaos gate" on the address bar
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>>385209010
Why do you come to a Warhammer videogame thread to complain about questions about Warhammer videogames?
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>>385203708
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>>385209327
DoW 2 was okay. The multiplayer was pretty good, even.
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>>385203708
>What are your favorite Warhammer games
DoW2: Retribution is not getting topped any time soon desu.
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>>385208434
You must be over 28 to post here.
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>>385209584
My nigga. The campaign wasn't up to snuff, but the multiplayer was to die for. Does anyone still play?
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>>385209548
>The multiplayer was pretty good
Nah the multiplayer was dumbed down garbage
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>>385209730
I do, but only 1v1 with my buddy.
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>>385209859
t. Person that didn't know how to play the multiplayer
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>>385208434
The best 40k game after Final Liberation, go listen to the soundtrack.
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>>385209859
This DoW2 was utter shit and the multi was fucking embarrassing
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>Tfw no active Warhammer MMO
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>>385203708
I really like Vermintide's learning curve.
The jump from nightmare to cataclysm is a very nice challenge that brutally punishes the use of crutch weapons.
Doesn't hurt that the Voice actors are some of the best in vidya for years
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>>385210198
There's not enough Vermintide rule34.
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>Try to play DoW 2 Retribution
>The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect

Is it ded?
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>>385203708
I played way too much Space Marine multiplayer. In the end it was me and random frenchies still playing. Got all the way to max rank, unlocked daemon armor and all.

Stormbolter + Master-Crafted Wargear + Master-crafted War Gear + Frags were the shit. Great midrange damage and each grenade was basically a guaranteed kill.
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>>385210632
Works on my machine. Try verifying cache or something?

>>385210725
>Furry armor
Disgusting.
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>>385210725
Fuck, one of those perks should be Favor of the Armory.
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>>385210725
Why was Eternal Crusade so much worse than Space Marine multiplayer?
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>>385210785
>Furry armor
???
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>>385211128
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Is Total Warhammer the only good Warhammer Game that came out since Spess Mehreen?

I was kinda excited about the Warhammer Sale last week but when I looked at the game it was all Moblie Tier Shit and flops like Space Hulk or Battlefleet Gothic.
Dawn of War III was the best Game on sale and that's really really sad.
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>>385211357
Space Hulk is improving and Battlefleet Gothic was good to begin with. Total War: Warhammer is pretty great, I'll admit, but all the DLC costs a fuckton. You also forgot about Vermintide, which is incredible.
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https://youtu.be/bGjIVfUUx_w
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>>385210586
>kerillian will never tell you that your clumsiness has a certain charm
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soulstorm>dark crusade
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>>385204874
>tfw wanted to play TW Warhammer because I remember enjoying the original Rome 15 years ago and I like Warhammer setting in general

>as I was being fucked over in tutorial missions, I remembered that I finished the main campaign of Rome after like half a year and I mostly did just skirmishes between custom armies

I understand the rock-paper-scissors mechanism of the game, I just don't get how to you can align your forces or how to intercept when suddenly they pull out reinforcements out of nowhere and start mauling your archers.
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>>385211990
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>>385212003
Play Chaos or Undead. They don't have any archers.
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>>385203708
what kind of game will this be?
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>>385212373
ARPG
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>>385212003
Keep reserves
Use your first wave of infantry, preferably your best, as a general tarpit. One unit can lock up 2-3 AI blocks.
Keep some spearmen behind in case they charge cavalry or monsters at your front line.
Then swing your cavalry round into the back centre of the enemy line, and cavalry cycle. While that's happening, move any infantry you have left into a flank.
Keep your missile units on the sides, but don't flank with them. Use them to counter enemy ranged and make sure fleeing units stay routed. Keep one or two units of either cavalry or fast infantry on standby to tie up any attempts to charge the ranged.
If you have Artillery, use them primarily to counter archers, large units or routing units. Always keep an anti large unit defending them, because the AI has a massive hard on for attacking artillery, even when it makes no sense.
If the enemy has artillery, they will never defend it, so charge a fast unit round the back as soon as its free from their main line.
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>>385203708
Space Hulk: Ascension is pretty good if you like squad based strategy games. It can get a little repetitive after awhile though.
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When are we getting an Age of Sigmar game?
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>>385213179
When it has a setting worth playing In.
Now SUMMON
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>>385203708
Wasn't this Inquisitor game gonna have customizable characters or some shit?
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>>385213648
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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Battlefleet Gothic Armada is the best
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>>385213682
I AM FRANZ, THEY WILL OBEY
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Where my Blood Bowl boys at?
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>>385214152
Blood Bowl 2.
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>>385214189
Have never played that game, although it looks fun. Though it appears it's a huge dlc fest. Would you recommend it?
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>>385214561
Yes. Blood for the Blood Bowl.
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>Yfw Grombrindal gets a new start location and campaign goal: to avenge the first grudge and slay the first oath breaker
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>>385215316
>Skaven take Karak-Eight-Peaks

What now, dawri?
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>>385213648
LeL
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>>385211703
>not pirating dlc
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>>385215391
That's a grudgin'.
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Kislev faction fucking when I want muh tzarina waifu and bear cavalries
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>>385203708
This game reminds me of starcraft 2 custom maps, I mainly have a problem with its movement though, its a constantly overlooked part of ARPGS. It was one of the few things D3 got right, its gonna be real smooth and fast.

>>385211196
Not furry, scaly mate that's fuckin' lizard shit.
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>>385203708
Man, I feel like fantasy would have been a much better setting than 40k for an arpg
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>>385216223
This 1000x. Also I don't really like overall style of 40k. It's WoW tier.
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>>385216310
Its the giant fucking pauldrons
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I enjoy Dawn of War 1 and Total War: Warhammer. I think they're both great games and not just great Warhammer games. Thought Vermintide was pretty mediocre but had fun playing it for a month with friends.

What other Warhammer games would you recommend to someone like me? I enjoy both Fantasy and 40k.
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>>385216223
As someone who owns it it fucking fits great actually. They have pretty regular updates and each one has added quite a bit of new shit/fixes. I play the melee inquisitor male, but for anyone who buys w their dicks they got full body suit femquisitor assassins.

Plus I got vermintide/Return of reckoning to scratch any fantasy itch...

>>385216310
>>385216395
I always enjoyed the crazy bulk they have, but fair nuff.
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>>385210858
>promised massive MMO
>became mediocre shooter

>Space Marine levels were contained and flow well
>EC is a cluster fuck

>Full customization in SM
>Pay to customize in EC

>SM had a great horde mode that was fun to play and felt challenging without becoming tedious
>EC horde is horrible

Doesn't help that EC dev team is salty as fuck over criticisms which is driving players away.

Seriously I have wanted to reinstall SM for a while but impossible to find anyone to play with.
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I like the concept but I just hope it's not another shit-tier 40k game

I still don't really get why they can't just make a digitised version of the tabletop game with army/model painting etc. The reason is probably that it would cannibalise tabletop sales and GW are greedy and short-sighted enough that they'd pull the license if that happened.
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>>385210107
This, holy shit this. Somebody fix this shit NOW.
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>>385211703
There's Mordheim too, it's an amazing game mechanically, but it's also marred by a shitty interface.
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>>385203708
I really wish someone would license and make either Death Watch, Dark Heresy or Black Crusade into an rpg like PoE, Tyranny etc.

Also miss Fire Warrior multiplayer and how they actually made the SM and CSm way taller then the normal human heretics, IG and Tau warriors.
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>>385217695
And the AI difficulty, which comprises of just mirroring your team and giving Stat bonuses.
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>>385217621
We could have lived in a timeline where a 40k mmo was real and good. But instead we got bigger marines.
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>>385217034
>Full body suit femquisotor
You’re gonna have to show me where to get this friend
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>>385217813
>just mirroring your team
That's done on purpose to maintain a constant level of challenge. If a player brings an impressive and the AI doesn't or the player has one more hero unit, it's a free win for the player. You can still outlevel and outgear the AI after a while, so it's not really a problem even for people who want to gain an edge over the AI through warband and individual unit progression, since the AI units don't actually mirror yours in stats, they only scale, but that scaling is far too slow to catch up with the player.
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>>385217695
>strategy game
>pc early access game
>final release is console shit
What the fuck happened?
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>>385218105
There is literally nothing wrong with the Intercessor models.
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>>385218136
It's in the OP.
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>>385217621
I just want a fucking 40K game where I can play a Mekboy, fuck, I'll settle for some plain Boy, I just want to play a fucking Ork.
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>>385218206
They fell for the "console players love SRPGs" meme and made an interface in such a way that the could be comfortably played on consoles. The game got really good reviews on consoles, but sold like dogshit. There's a reason why Japanese (read: console) non-mobile SRPGs are dead.
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>>385218635
I want a 40k game where I can be an Eldar and walk ALL the paths. Or a 40k game where I can literally RAPE everything as a Dark Eldar.
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>>385211196
>tricked by the tricky alpha legionnaire
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>>385210107

try the return of reckoning
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Ayo hol'up

You sayin' we wuz SPACE MUHREENS AND SHIIIIIIEEEEEETTTT?????
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>>385218516
>thats not even the full bodysuit
melee spec has the full leather look
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>>385218943
What happens if you paint Salamanders during REAL NIGGA HOURS?
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>>385218943
Is this chapter called the chicken watermelons?
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>>385219267
Salamanders
Actually one of the best chapters. They like to burn heretics, but are super nice to people compared to most marines.
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>>385219191
This one?

I don't dig the balaclava.
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>>385218516
>>385219191
>>385219404
can i get a link to this? i cant find it and kinda wanna buy it
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>>385206840
Well GW missed the train with being way too protective of their IP. Selling it to anyone these days doesnt make up for years and years of missed opportunities to establish 40k as a much bigger gaming brand.

Now we get games from independent studios that dont have the budgets to do the setting justice.

Cant really recall a great 40k game as of late. Battlefleet Gothic was pretty ok and I like how gorgeous Deathwing looks, but thats about it.

We all know which way Dawn of War 3 went...
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>>385219523
The link is in the OP.
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>>385218723
I want ARPG where you get to play as some Chaos dude. The whole killing things, getting better loot while getting absurdly strong over time sounds like what life is generally like in EoT. Chaos even have frequent infighting, so you don't need to came up with detailed explanation why your dude is killing daemons or other Chaos dudes.

You could say this also applies to Orks, but Chaos is the one that gets to play with some weird and freaky stuff like noise guns or weaponized mutations. That's a whole lot of character customization from function to looks right there.
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>>385209327
I liked Winter assault just as much as the first one.
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>>385203708
>Fa/tg/uys make a great concept for a game
>actually start making it
>GW hears
>pic related

I mourn Chapter Master.
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>>385219583
i went to their official site, where do i go to see the female inquisitors?
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I'm going to KILL this cute anime girl unless (YOU) tell me what Warhammer game that you've played was your LEAST favorite.

AND IT BETTER NOT BE VERMINTIDE OR ELSE
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>>385219626
Adapt this to a video game system and you have that game friend.
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>>385219774
The big button that says store.
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>>385219787
HH: talisman.
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>>385219539

Imagine a timeline where GW weren't massive spergs and Blizzard got the greenlight to make their Warhammer RTS.
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>>385219787
Dawn of War 3.
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>>385219267
How are you unfamiliar with a founding legion, yet know what a chapter is?
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>>385219787
The worst one was Space Hulk Ascension. The gameplay itself is great, but the game is optimized like utter ASS and it runs like fucking DOGSHIT because it uses an old version of unity.
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>>385219847
https://neocoregames.com/en/store/warhammer-40k-inquisitor-martyr-editions
?
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>>385219943
Is this chapter called the Aces of Spaces?
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>>385203708
Anybody played SH:DW as of late? I've heard that it's gone trough quite a bit of bug fixes and content additions, and that it's actually worth playing now. Can anyone confirm if that's true?

Also, apparently they're rereleasing it with a definitive edition or something soon?
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>>385219787
Mark of chaos.
Neet concept but bogged down by too many unpolished aspects.
AND WE NEVER GOT A GRIFFON OR DRAGON IN THE MAIN CAMPAIGN REEEEEE
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>>385209327
Fixed
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>>385220028
SH:DW is starting to get pretty darn good. They're adding permanent progression soon, which will bring it to early day Vermintide-good.
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>>385203708
why is the game running in slow motion?
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>>385219787

Firewarrior.

Although inversely, I fucking love Mordheim, but no one ever talks about it and Dorf DLC never ever.

Had the game had a little more polish in the camera/controls department it would have been damn near perfect.
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>>385220138
Only the physics seem to be running at a very low update rate for some reason.
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>>385219963
>We will never get a good Space Hulk game
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>>385220028
>>385220137
>Deathwing
Does it still run like dogshit? How CPU intensive is it?
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>>385219626
>Getting to devote yourself to the god of your choosing, each with separate progression tracks
>Boons and mutations visibly alter your character
Would be incredible
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>>385220137
>They're adding permanent progression soon, which will bring it to early day Vermintide-good.
Shit, that's great. The lack of that was my only real complaint with the game.
Is it possible we'll get a map maker? It'd be awesome if we we're able to play on custom space hulks
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>>385220137
When’s permanent progression being added?
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>never ever
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>>385209327
>I have Emprah's Holy Truth.jpeg on standby
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>>385220360
Please don't remind me.
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>>385219787
dawn of war 3
to be fair I haven't played all the warhammer mobage trash but it's probably got more soul than dow3
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>>385220028
Yeah they are both fixing bugs and adding features. The big thing is supposed to arrive later this year, with supposed progression system and loot drops IIRC, which might be interesting.

Recently they added the chaplain interrogator, who looks fucking metal as a new class. The game would still benefit from more enemy types and better optimization, but its getting better, thats for sure.

>>385220329
Still not great I am afraid. Even if I have only i5 6600k and 980, I would expect the framerate to be a little more stable.
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>>385220061
Honestly a game in the vein of Mark of Chaos focusing purely on a Chaos hero would be amazing
>start with small skirmishes and dueling rival champions
>eventually select a God to favor or go undivided
>build up armies
>branching story paths based on who you aligned with, who you chose to attack first etc
>large 'stronghold' like missions in the vein of DoW
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>>385220245
really? the entire game feels like it's running at like 50% speed. It looks really slow and sluggish, is that intended?
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>>385220442

So basically LotR: Shadow of War

I'm okay with this.
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>>385220061
>AND WE NEVER GOT A GRIFFON OR DRAGON IN THE MAIN CAMPAIGN
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>>385219404
yeah that's what I was talking about

I pref the ranged ones anyway visually, was mainly clearing it up for the other anon
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>>385218516
>They changed the model of the gun to not be an exitus rifle

Color me surprised. When I saw that in the early gameplay footage, I thought they were just cashgrabbing with the IP without knowing a single shit about it.
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>>385220343
>Map maker
Doubtful.

>>385220347
Soonâ„¢
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>>385219910
>A Warhammer mmo that is in the current state of Retail WoW

I would love huge nice Warhammer games, but I couldn't live in the empty hell of the current gaming industry if it had warhammer games.

Warhammer Fantasy and 40k is a rich universe that does not deserve, early access open world, survival, clone, dlc skeleton, 4 hour gameplay style games.
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>>385220641
They're actually trying and in my opinion they're doing a decent/good job.
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Do you think CA will make more TWWH games if TWWH2&3 will be as successful as the first one?
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>>385220515
No it doesnt feel slow at all if you play at, probably something to do with some physics setting or bug. It used to run kidna sluggish, but most the animations/combat has been sped up roughly 10-25%.
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>>385203708
fantasy > 40k

too bad almost all the games are boring or shit
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>>385203708
So is this shit like Diablo, but with a WH40k skin? Why the fuck would they pick this particular genre for their game?
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>>385220996
No, they only have the license for three games, and they're not even allowed to do naval battles (for now) because of that indie game Corsair: Man'O'War which sold like 2000 copies.
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>>385220996
If Total Warhammer 2 and 3 are super successful then I don't think there'll be a need for any more sequels, we'll have the perfect game already by then.
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>>385218846
does it have all the events that appeared in updates like Rise of the Tomb Kings?
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>>385220996

I think it'd be in their best interest to move away from a big release + DLC model and move towards just creating a Warhammer framework that they continually update and build on + release content for that could be used for all GW table top ip's over an extended period of time.
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>>385221238
Yes. Why not? There hasn't been a Warhammer ARPG yet.
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>>385220996
You are already including 3 ... thats speculating at least 5 years into the future imo. I dont think historyfags would survive that.

So yeah, maybe. But I would rather if they did a proper 40k epic scale strategy game.

Well I would rather Paradox did it, but they cant bet trusted not to overjew any game anymore with millions of DLC.
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>>385221295
>and they're not even allowed to do naval battles (for now) because of that indie game Corsair: Man'O'War which sold like 2000 copies
This makes no sense because Man O War's naval battles play nothing like a Total War title's naval battles do. Man O War is WAY more personal with you controlling individual characters and shit on the ships you sail.
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>>385213648
WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
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>>385221465
>This makes no sense because Man O War's naval battles play nothing like a Total War title's naval battles do.
The suits don't care about how the games play. They care about what the games portray. And no two games may portray the same thing (Warhammer fantasy naval battles).
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>>385221383
>Why not?
Because both Warhammer settings have amazing roleplaying potential and I find it really odd that someone would decide to make a simple h&s grindfest in the setting.
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>>385221571
The Diablo setting had great roleplaying potential, but they decided to make a second ARPG out of it. I fail to see your point.
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>>385221634
He doesn't have one sadly...
Though I think he just really wants a sick warhammer 40k rpg, which is what anyone wants.
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>Tfw no game like Mass Effect where you travel through space as an Inquisitor slapping the shit out of heretics and insurgents while solving regular citizen problems along the way with a moral compass that allows you to either be cruel as fuck and exterminatus entire planets or benevolent and charitable all the while rocking a gun the size of a cow

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>385219787
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels was probably the worst, but hilariously so.

>This... is for... CAPERNICUS
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>>385219787
Eternal Crusade. It was off a friend's recommendation and I feel jipped of the $5 I spent during the sale
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>>385222172
>5$
I invested 200$ into that piece of shit.
They promised me an MMOFPS like Planetside 2.
Instead I received worse Space Marine with more players.
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>>385222481
I'm sorry anon.
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>>385221320
yes, or atleast I think there was that wild hunt or whatever thing once
but I'm not playing or following it to know precisely
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>deathwing gets updated
>fuck year chaplain
>he's quiet as fuck
Are DA chaplains suppose to be like this?
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>>385222815
The less you speak, the less you can reveal.
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>>385222815
Chaplains are supposed to be the moral support of marines on the field. If he's quiet, they fucked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5s81NRdQE
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>deathwing gets updated
>fuck year chaplain
>he's quiet as fuck
Are DA chaplains suppose to be like this?
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>>385209010
Google the answer autismo, lol
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>No inquisition xcom-like 40k game that play on an entire sector

Jesus it writes itself
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>No Warhammer-XCOM
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>>385223974
>Warhammer-XCOM
You play as the Space Marines (small elite units).
You need to defend against a Tyranid invasion.
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>>385217414
Friendo, don't do it. Rampant cheating has become the norm now, particularly with Cheat Engine. Some stupid fuck decided to try and revitalize the game by teaching people how to use it, and now you have people blatantly jumping around with retarded loadouts and still being terrible at the game somehow. There's a couple clans still active, but most of them are just filled with Russians cheating at the game or only one or two active members. If you wanna compare EC and SM, talk to some of the xBro clan guys in EC, particularly BlessMyBolter, Biohazard, or Xcomer, since they used to play SM a ton. I'm too bitter over what has happened to both games to really enjoy either anymore.
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>>385224061
>what is Deathwatch
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>>385203708
On release I didn't play a lot of WAR. But a private server came up like 2-3 years ago and I've played that non stop for a while. Its the only Warhammer game that lets me play as a single blorc.

Vermintide is pretty fun, I played a lot after its initial release, DL'd the DLC during the summer sale but still haven't given it a try. Total War Warhammer is fun but my all time favorite game is gonna be Dawn of War 2 - Retribution. The multiplayer in that game is the funnest. The voice acting for every faction was done so remarkably, they all have over 20 minutes of voice lines, they express interactions with enemies or allies as well as whats happening in the world.
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>>385223974
but there is:
https://www.gog.com/game/final_liberation_warhammer_epic_40000
https://www.gog.com/game/warhammer_40000_chaos_gate
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>>385224240
>Dawn of War 2 - Retribution. The multiplayer in that game is the funnest.
My nigga. People will never understand.
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>>385223974
Jokes on you it already existed
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>>385224360
>>385224240
these
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>>385223760
>inquistion
>not deathwatch
Inquistiorial bands can be used for a lot of different game genres, but X-com style game isn't one of them. Inquistion involves a lot of investigating and detective work, where as the deathwatch is all about killing xenos. Deathwatch also uses mixed unit kill teams, and has marines haling from a variety of chapters, and are ussualy the ones called in when xenos related stuff like GSC start to cause a problem.
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>>385224187
>>385217414

>not being skeptical after /v/ pointed out the dev for EC has never made a game on their own before

I lowered my expectations for EC so I could at least enjoy it. Honestly I just wanted to be a bad ass slugga boy, or a slugga nob like in Space marine. Nobs were fucking huge, had 2 handers and could charge it was crazy.

It still amazes me how Space Marine captured the feel of being a space marine, your weight as you run, the power behind each blow, it was awesome. Not to mention the fucking dreadnought DLC was fun as fuck when it came out.

>>385224360
>>385224550
Thank god theres some people on /v/ don't have shit taste. The only people who shit on DoW2 are nostalgia babbies yearning for DoW1 which led to the travesty thats DoW3.
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>>385219943
Salamanders are not "african" black.

They are just normal people with coal black skin.
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>>385222070
>No game where you play an Ork Boss and build and develop your warband from scratch to unleash havoc upon whatever world you landed on.
Tell us why, given life, we were meant to die.
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Why does /v/ hate Dawn of War 2?
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>>385209859
>Dumbed down
Sure if all you do is play with blobs and think lesser units means your blob is smaller, you've a point.
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>>385224901
>normal people
ewww
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>>385225021
They remember DoW1 as being amazing. DoW2 has better graphics, better voice lines and is a bit more action oriented, but still, fucking nostalgia babbies want their base building
>>
>>385225021

I fucking love it.
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>>385225131
>Action oriented

But with frontline reinforcements, DoW 1 is more action oriented as fights can drag on forever.
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>>385224789
I don't play LSM or CSM often enough in EC, but I have been enjoying Eldar as of late. I like the mobility of their class, but you're so squishy it's almost frustrating, and because of how squishy you are the faction relies much more on teamwork. Storming some points are practically impossible, especially when a bolter can drop you in 5 shots or the auto-aim bolt pistol can 2 shot most Eldar classes. Honestly, I'm just more frustrated at LSM players being so terrible and whiny despite being almost exclusively catered to. I just wanna play as my xenos waifu and have fun without a faction that has a very obvious advantage over me accusing me of cheating.
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>>385217034
Shame Martyr perform like shit atm and melee sucks. Also they need to improve their keybinding, dodging is awful.
I hope it improve greatly with the alpha/beta.
>>
Playing Eldar in the beta of EC was tight as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGh7ztmkbts
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>>385225303
Its a shame how LSM are literal babby players because of them being posterboys for the WH40k franchise. Eldar are the most dodgy, I think they made their slipperiness in character well. The only super gay thing I remember though is that a striking scorpion can down you w/ 1 heavy attack out of stealth.
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>>385219787
Space Hulk Deathwing. It looked nice but I played all of 20 minutes before refunding it. Vermintide is easily one of the better ones even if you could dumb it down to "l4d warhammer"
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I could go for a Open Galaxy RPG based on rouge trader maybe even an mmo like SWG.
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>>385209548
wrong mp was worst part of dow2, dumbed down even more than dow3, sp-coop and last stand was great
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>>385209859
>>385210094
agree
>>385209975
person who plays diablo of war 2
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>>385225301
>But with frontline reinforcements, DoW 1 is more action oriented as fights can drag on forever.
>action oriented as fights can drag on forever.

Must not be a lot of action if it doesn't matter that your guys die on the frontline. DoW2 its devastating to have a squad fucked, because then they have to return to base. Which leads to players going all out to murder each other.

And don't give me this bullshit that RETREATING IS GAY, WATCH ME SAVE MY WHOLE ARMY BY PRESSING X. You guys don't understand how gaining ground works. IIRC DoW2 is also more micro-managable.

>>385225708
>all I know is how to right click
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>>385225502
See, I can't play melee or play against melee since I have 200 ping on average, always getting stuck on the Frankfurt servers while living on the west coast of the US. Coming from melee in SM, I hate EC's melee. Sure, SM had some issues with their melee system that made assaults absolutley broken in the right hands, but EC's melee system just isn't fun for me and just makes me feel like there's nothing I can do because of bad server connection.
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>>385225484
Playing EC was shit.

fixed for you my senpai
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>>385225708
>I know nothing of strategy but want to play this strategy game
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>>385225021
Because it was a shitty dumbed down joke of a game that lacked the depth, complexity and fun of its predecessor.

Also its not just /v/ that hates it.
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>>385225982
>>385226089

>>all I know is how to right click

>all i know is how to spam banshees, shurikens and fire prisms

WOW MOM I'M SO TACTICOOL SO I COULD COMMAND REAL LIFE ARMY LOOK LOOOK MOM I WON A GAME

kys you fucking diablo of war 2 fags
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>>385226137
but anon that pic is about DoW3 what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>385226169
newflash: rtS games arent actually strategy games
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>>385226169
>Using banshees
>Ever

Just admit you hate the game because you're bad at it.
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>>385209327
Perfect
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>>385226169
>HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO COUNTER BANSHEES, SUPPRESSION OR ARMOR

Good one lad, sorry but certain units counter others, they also invoke the use of strategy to fully utilize them. I know this might sound alien to you if you're used to just SELECTING ANY UNIT AND RIGHT CLICKING EVERYTHING
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>>385226169
>Spam two tier one units and then a tier three unit somehow
>>
I'll never understand why they didn't keep all the mechanisms from CoH in Dow 2
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>>385226472
Apart from base building, which one would you have liked them to keep? "Special upgrade" at rank 3? Talent trees?
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>>385222815
The lack of banter all round is part of what killed deathwing.
It's one of the best ways to keep people interested.
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>>385225327
>Shame Martyr perform like shit atm and melee sucks
Id agree if it was like 6 months ago, but the optimization has been improved vastly. It just keeps getting better baby, but I agree melee does need improvements. I don't play the assassin, but the heavy inq in melee is a fucking treat.
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>>385226470
This. Hes THAT guy who doesn't understand how important resource defending is.

>doesn't buy power
>doesn't grab his req point
>lets his power and req get taken over by the enemy numerous times
>enemy out resources the team and has a T2 unit out
>WOOOOOOOOOW SO I GUESS YOU JUST SPAM UNITS TILL YOU WIN
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>>385222481
>I invested 200$ into that piece of shit.
I hope you learned your lesson
>>
>>385226591
now that I think of it...all of them are in, but with less frequency like deployable cover, emplacements etc
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>>385226946
Most players don't use things like the IG sandbags.
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>>385213648
rollan for new run
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>>385227051
yeah
but anyway, for some reason I was pretty sure there are features that are in CoH but now DoW2
>>
literally all DoW3 had to be was a reskinned CoH2. why did relic feel the need to appeal to MOBA / e-sport kiddies when there are already tons of games that do that?
>>
>>385220329
>>385220426
If you optimize DW properly you can run on 60 frames the whole time.

The last time I played like 2 days ago I dropped to 50 during one particularly battle which involved liberal use of the flamer
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>>385227163
This. Although iirc all of old relic was left so they had to rebuild their team after THQ went under. I HATE THESE SHITTY MEMES THAT KILL FRANCHISES

>Going open world
>Appealing to e-sports kids

Know any others boyz?
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>>385209327

I loved Dawn of War II because it scratched an itch I wanted, a small unit of space marines doing missions from their strike cruiser mirrored loads of Black Library books I'd read. If you were expecting the same format as Dawn of War then it's disappointing but they were still good games.
>>
>>385227395
Crafting
Survival
Early access
Open world
E-Sports

If you see any one of these, approach with extreme caution.
>>
DEATHWING SERVER GET IN HERE

Lobby: EMPRAH PROTEX
PW: anal

codex rules on
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>>385204874
Where's Kislev kurwa
>>
>>385225796
>diablo of war 2
This is how we know you did not play the multiplayer
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>>385226272
It also shows DoW1 having more players than DoW1 my friend
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Chaos or Loyalist in DoW2: Chaos Rising?
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>>385227867
They'll be in the Chaos expansion
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>>385228282
>It also shows DoW1 having more players than DoW1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>385228526
>bowing to the false emperor god EVER
THE DARK GODS WILL BE PLEASED THIS DAY
>>
>>385228526
>one shot powers that you barely use, losing out on normal energy regeneration, and gear that gets outclassed by pure versions
>vs Having Thule and the best Wargear
You only ever have one corrupt guy, and even that's just to avoid Martellus and his engine of rape
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>There will NEVER be a Warhammer: Total War DLC or update which lets you play as that small Vampire Counts faction squished in between those Bretonnian horsefuckers
>>
>>385228845
you know you can just use a faction unlocker, right? also I'm pretty sure there are mousillon overhauls that make that flesh the faction out instead of just being a copy of vampire counts
>>
>>385228570
Was it not the Chaos Warriors DLCâ„¢?
>>
>>385228779

>not going be the canon and forcing Avitus into chaos

Or Tarkus for the best lines
>>
>>385228845
Red Duke has his own model now, anon.
Chances are he'll be alongside Toddbringer for his own faction
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>>385228984
I want the developers to recognize my masochism.
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>>385229052
>that moment where Cyrus goes Apeshit at Tarkus for chastising Thaddeus
>>
>>385229052
>Losing your BEST CHARACTER to Chaos

How do you even beat the final boss without Avitus? It took me like 45 minutes WITH him.
>>
>>385220442
Mark of Chaos was fun. I actually felt a little weird when I chose Nurgle, and my character turned into a fat beast.
>>
>>385213648
Vlad daddy please
>>
>>385219384
>>385219267
>>385219943
>>385224901
Emphasis on the burning part.
>>
>>385213648
>no brets

rollin grumpily
>>
>>385229245
Thule Spamming multimelta and having self repair, Jonah healing and making FC go Super Saiyan with buffs, Cyrus for free heals, and FC with the Custodes armour/Blessed Cage.
IIRC, there's a sword that gives a free shield too.
>>
>>385229518
>no brets
Your lack of noticing 49-60 offends the lady
>>
>>385209327
DoW II were better made games with way more depth. people just masturbate to base building in 1.

DoW 2 needed more factions
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>>385229531
>FC go super saiyan
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>Chaos Gate is not on Steam
>>
>>385216636
The problem with Vermintide is it stuck TOO close to the Left 4 Dead formula. The game would be much better if it had 4 player co-op in a big world. basically like Dying Light instead of left 4 dead.
You should try Eternal Crusade if you want more 40k shooty fun with no financial investment.
>>
>>385229902
I disagree. Vermintide is exactly the right amount of L4D.
>>
>>385230417
I' rather play left 4 Dead at that point. Ai in l4D is much better and it has multiplayer.

If you could play as the rats in Vermintide it would make me reconsider my position.
>>
>>385230538
L4D does not have permanent progression and cosmetics.
>>
>>385230538
The Melee system is so much better in Vermintide, and there's nothing else quite like it.
L4D is good, but the shooting mechanics are pretty standard and Multi is filled with HueHues, Slavs and retards. Though granted, you also see a lot of retards in everything up to Nightmare, but it's practically soloable before then unless you get caught in a down spiral.

Also, while it's a personal preference, I think the VAs are a lot better in vermintide, and the banter is more varied.
>>
Is Vermintide even alive at this point?
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Those are some nice tokens you have there.
>>
>>385230892
Yes.
Not exactly lively, but you can usually get a few matches in, and you're generally guaranteed one if it's a key quest.
Ramparts and Waterfront is a pretty safe bet too.
>>
>>385230892

Yes it's alive. There was a sale and an event going on recently that brought in a lot of new players and brought back some old.
>>
>>385231049
>>385231253
Thanks. I already own TWWH and Mordheim, so getting Vermintide is a logical thing to do at this point, since I love the setting. Any quick tips for a completely new player?
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>>385231038
>the pain of trying to get an orange with the right traits in early Vermintide
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>Force Commander going Super Saiyin

A BILLION HOURS IN FFMPEG
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>>385203708
Nice ad faggot.

Dork Crusade was the last good Warhams game.
>>
Tell me about Space Hulk Deathwing, vee.
>>
>>385224318
these were so good
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>>385230756
>pointless account levels
>hats

baggage I'd rather not have

>>385230835
All good points. The bants in Vermintide are top tier but I have far more time logged in L4D than Vermintide. Might be because I played L4D first so Vermintide didn't feel as fresh or exciting.
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>>385231527
It used to be bad but now it's good and getting even better.
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>>385209327
Soulstorm had floaty-fliers and a bug that enabled you to have unlimited resources by bashing two keys and it worked even in multiplayer.

Seriously what the fuck nigger.
>>
>>385231309
Try to go for reliable headshots and dodging as early as you can, since they're a lifesaver on higher difficulties
Stick together.
It's better to avoid damage than deal damage
Each Weapon is viable to everything up to Nightmare, provided you upgrade them, but you'll have to learn the ins and outs of them to use them effectively
If you can, always have a healing trait on at least one weapon that will reliably trigger it.
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>>385231356
>shooting lighting to the face of a man who's face is his shield
>>
>>385231823
MY FACE IS MY SHIELD, MY POOPIE IS MY BOARD
>>
>>385231689
Thanks, the only type of team multiplayer shooters I've played before are Mechwarrior games, so I'll need all the help I can get.
>>
>>385225021
It was too different, at least to someone like me who loved DoW 1.
>>
>>385232295
Not him but it's worth getting one of the fish trinkets so you can duplicate healing items once in a blue moon. So if you get one of them equip it. Along with a lichbone which you might get eventually on higher difficulties.
I would also try clearing the contract board of contracts, this can help you get weapons and those gems to help make/upgrade/change traits of weapons.
>>
>>385232295
If you play as the brightwizard, your ranged weapon will have a overheat meter that causes you to explode if you go over it, and your weapon attacks start getting slower as it rises. You can either wait for it to cool down by itself (which takes 1 minute from full, IIRC) or vent it, but it causes slight damage in ticks.
It's generally best to not overheat and vent unless you get attacked by hordes, and you can let it vent naturally and use your melee weapon if it's a non serious situation.

Also, don't get used to firing at everyone's feet; in Nightmare and Cataclysm difficulty you get a degree of friendly fire, especially under a strength potion, and the bright wizard causes the most DD of the group. Get used to only firing at the feet in last stand mode, which has no FF, or in emergeances (Such as a packmaster/Gutter runner attack, or if someone is downed and surrounded. In those cases, the FF damage will be paltry compared to what they'll get if you don't
>>
>Search PS4 Deathwing
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