Lets talk about Thief: The Dark Project aka the best Thief. Metal

How do I get into thief?
Aldo someone post that chart with the mods

>>385199751
You download the game and then play it. You're welcome bud.

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>>385199751
Here my man

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>>385199638
Dark Project is indeed for Patricians. Wasn't a fan of the undead levels at first myself, but I think they kinda grow on you. Preferred the spooky medieval setting of the first game a little more than the Victorian design of 2's.

The ruined Old Quarter portion of the Haunted Cathedral level is my absolute favorite.

>>385199638
Epic contrarianism. Thief 2 is better in just about every way.
It's sad that a Thief thread has to start with bait on this shithole. Sage.

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>>385201965
>Thief 2 is better in just about every way.

Thief 2 is only better for plebs that have played each game only once. As soon as you delve into multiple playthrough she territory it becomes easy to realize that T1 is the superior experience. T1 has so much more variety in gameplay to keep you hooked while T2 spends half of its levels literally throwing copy pasted maps or concepts at you. No two levels in T1 are the same really, T2 has some great levels like life of the party of course, but Trail of Blood pt1 is very much like Assassins from T1 (been there, done that), then there's the infamous casing the joint and masks which is just fucking stupid.

Seriously, on repeat playthroughs of the series T2 is such a slog. T1 at least keeps it interesting throughout, also the setting in T1 is way better.

>>385202375
Enjoy your dead thread OP

Are thief 2 fanboys that shun everything to do with thief 1 the worst fans in the series? They can't help but shitpost about how they don't like zombies whenever a thief thread shows up. Thief 2 would have improved tenfold if Thief 2 Gold was released and we had the official necromancer's tower level with zombies and spooks.

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>>385202970
>improved tenfold if Thief 2 Gold was released and we had the official necromancer's tower level with zombies and spooks
Mah heart

I loved the Thief series, shame 4 was such a disappointment.

ALLRIGHT WHOS MAKING THE RACKET???

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>>385202749
Not if I have anything to say about it!

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>>385201965

>>385203467
>Le ebin e-celeb
Just when I thought this thread had hope.

>newdark
If you say it "just better" you are fooling yourself playing the thief gold mission on thief 2 engine.

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>>385202970
>there are people on this planet that don't love Thief 1 and Thief 2 equally
It's time to reconsider some stuff in your life, anon.

>>385203774
Here comes the hugbots with no preferences or taste. They're two sides of the same coin, but with so many differences it's only natural to find things you happen to enjoy more about either.

>>385203774
Every mission of Thief 1 is at least good, most are excellent. Thief 2 is full of terrible shit
>Running Interference
Tiny, ugly, simple
>Ambush
A terrible version of Assassins from Thief 1
>Eavesdropping
Ugly, tiny, metal floor everywhere
>Trace the Courier
This level is shit
>Trail of Blood
SHIT!
>Kidnap
A terrible, tinier version of Lost City
>Casing the Joint/Masks
Basically "sorry we were approaching deadline so be a dear and play the same shitty level twice. We slapped turrets everywhere"
>Sabotage
This level is fun to do once but boy does it suck balls on repeated plays. Giant and laboursome in the most literal sense.

The biggest problem with Thief 2 is that it has no thieving. The game is too concerned with the plot, and fun missions like Shipping and Receiving were immediately replaced by Splinter Cell-tier spy missions. Very few missions of Thief 2 even have loot objectives.

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>>385199638
>not liking both

Now who is the pleb I'm supposed to laugh at?

I like Deadly Shadows. I don't even care what you taffers think.

>mfw I bought deadly shadows on release and STILL havent played it

>>385199751
First few missions aren't that good in my opinion, it doesn't start getting good until you are 4-5 missions in but from then on out it's a blast.

>>385199638
I'm actually having the same problem with Thief 2, have been stuck on the second or third mission for months because I find the level to be too boring to play through.

>>385204676
(You)rself for being such a neutral faggot.

>>385205197
Bet you praise the Law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVSyGvSQR8

Can't wait familia

i got to the mines and never touched it again. stealth games are garbage for beta cucks

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>>385205197
>unironically implying there is so much of a difference between Thief 1 and 2 and no way to like both

I pity thee, the one of a simple mind.

>>385204721
A few years later i would say something, but now the game was mostly fixed, so its really playable now.

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>>385205290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlUujCx_yoA&t

I love the people who keep the whole thing alive

>>385204721
I like it too because it was my first

Hammerites - bros
Mechanists - faggots
Pagan - flaming homos
Keepers - annoying retards

>>385199638
I thought all the people who made maps for Thief 2 instead of the first one choose it for being better, but of course a faggot OP knows more than them.

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>>385205649
>hammers
"They used to be the power, now.. its just a bunch of guys wishing for the old days"

>>385205357
Pic related

>>385205724
Is that why the hypest FM is being made for TG? Retard.

>>385205290

What are the biggest differences between 1 and 2? The gamechanging ones that make you prefer one before the other.

>I only have 2 on steam and so far it has been pretty nice

>>385205724
The engine, graphics and roster of enemies are better & larger. That doesn't mean the actual experience of the game itself and official missions are better.

>>385205959
Severe lack of pagans.

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>>385205290
Is modding T1/T2 hard? I'm retarded, spoonfeed me the process. I have Metal Age.

>>385205959
I prefer Gold because of the Pagan themes and natural entities you have to sneak around. Both games have very enjoyable missions, but I prefer the natural themes of Gold. One of my slight problems with 2 is that by default your aerial speed doesn't increase with every jump the same way in Gold, but that can be changed in a .ini file.

>>385205959
engine
>AI delay in their scripting
>they react to open doors or missing loot
>better mantle mechanics (the reason why the patches uses the thief 2 engine in gold)
>improved lighting and sound propagation

Gameplay wise, the second half of thief 1 detach very hard from the regular get in the mansion, steal shit and get out, when thief 2 is more sober about it.

>>385205959
They are 95% similar. When people talk about the differences it's mostly the story.
I can't help but think of them as two parts of a whole - one is about nature taking over, the other about technology taking over. They fit each other well and I've yet to see someone like one game and hate the other.

>>385205959
Thematically, Thief 1 has more fantasy elements. Zombies, skellintons, monsters, giant spiders, living fireballs etc all of that is gone in MA. There's also a greater variety in missions, you explore tombs, prisons, go undercover, magical castles, mage towers, other dimensions. The levels have more interconnected pathways. Also, Thief 1 Garrett can bunnyhop, it makes no sense but I miss that shit in Thief 2.

>>385206318
If you want to be spoonfed, you've already lost. Making a decent Thief level is not easy.

>>385199751
It will take a while to get into it, the style is very different to modern games. But trust me once it clicks you can really enjoy it.

>>385206834
Anon, I meant from the consumer perspective. I've read the thing in
>>385201412
but it has truckload of instructions on editing files and shit. Do I just download tafferpatcher and pray?

>>385203675
does new dark not have bunny hopping?

>>385207117
The regular one yes, forgot that, but the rest of the inertial exploits are still there.
>when you bunnyhop to the fire elemental tower
Love doing that shit, untill you realize the mistake of spawning fire elementals all over the place.

>>385207054
You mean just patching it? Yeah just download it on Steam or GoG and run TFix if you're playing Thief Gold, or Taffterpatcher if you're playing Thief 2. It's an installer. It'll tell you what to do.

>>385199638
I'm in Lost City... anybody... home? AND FUCK BURRICKS

>>385205981
>>385206317
>>385206383
>>385206389
>>385206492
>>385206539

Ok, thanks guys.

Always wanted to play thief(s) as a kid, pretty awesome that the forst one has more supernatural elements

>>385207249
t. ramirez servant

>>385203067
>future holds gameplay innovations

If only you knew ;__;

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I AM FUELED BY THE FIRES OF THE BUILDER HIMSELF

>>385207054
>Anon, I meant from the consumer perspective. I've read the thing in
For fuck's sake. When will you retards stop saying "modding the game" when you you mean "installing mods"?

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>>385203067
>the future holds gameplay innovations we cannot even imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5TlF68KYhg
>this thread

>>385201965
Thief 2 is a great game, but it's worse at letting me play an old school dnd rogue, which Thieft 1 is all about. Bonehoard is the best level in the series in my opinion.

>>385207728
>waifu threads

>picking the shit game with boring zombies and ghosts and shit instead of the far superior steampunk robots

The Sword is hands down the best mission in the entire Thief series. Fight me.

I thought 3 was fun too

>>385205917
2 flashbombs and they are all toast

>>385208010
>that one entire floor with marble floors and no carpets

I loved the Sword, but I don't know if I want to replay it.

>tfw I was so autistic as a kid, I instantly had to load a save when some guard found me
I still do it today

>>385207596
*Swoops in front of you*

>>385208218
M O S S
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>>385208397
*goes into third person*

Deadly Shadows isn't such a bad game if you mod it and make it so that you don't have to wait for the areas to load. The faction system is retarded, but the story itself is a great conclusion to the entire series.

>>385208497
*presses X for awesome takedown animation*

>>385208746
*has alertness icons floating above head*

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Did Constantine really do anything wrong?

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>>385210217
Victoria and I are...
>old associates
YES.

have a bump

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>>385201412
postan other list

Not that it really helps. I'm always wanting to pick up and play some Fan Missions, but once I open up the FMSelector, I see an assload of FMs, my indicisiveness takes over and I end up closing it out and not playing at all instead. Hate that shit.


Want more missions like >>385201860
Wandering around dead, fallen cities overrun with creatures and maybe looters or something.

>>385210328
I wonder if Garrett was interested in her romantically, also who the fuck works together with a bitch that rips your eye out
>Blood pact
bs since he was going to say yes before she scratched him.

>>385212792
I doubt there was any real romance going on, but he probably was attracted to her and respected her.
She's the typical femme fatale in a noir story - using her sexuality to get her way, seducing the hero and tricking him.

>>385212792
>dont wait up, ill be working late
>my good thief
Thats all...

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>>385212792
>Trapped in her fucking pocket dimension
>Surrounded by nymphs, tree monsters and other kinds of enmies
What was he supposed to do?
Victoria offered to give up on revenge if he helped, he had no way out except helping her
And Garret must have considered her a friend at the verly least, he was way more emotional in the last mission of 2 than he ever was in the entirety of 1 and 2

>>385215448
I could do without this stupid scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA7c6-u7kwA
Concerned voice Garrett is so wrong it hurts.
And why in the fuck would Garrett think of her as a friend? Cunt ripped his eye out.

>>385215625
She wasn't retarded like the mechanists, the Keepers, the Hammers or the nobles, and she cared about the wellbeing of the pagans
In a dark fantasy universe like the thief one, leaders who aren't greedy pieces of shit must be pretty uncommon

>>385201412
got the Thief 2 Version as well?

>>385216760
Its for both, little gear icon at the bottom of a picture denotes Thief 2 FMs

>>385199638
My favorite levels are

The Bonehoard
Song of the Caverns
The Lost City
Return to the Cathedral

damn, I have to play this shit again.

>>385199638
Why does Metal Age run like shit on my computer? Is it FPS locked? I run MGSV and GTAV at 60 fps

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>>385217053
Windows 10?

So how much does Dark Project differ from Gold anyways?

>>385217546
The thieves guild and the mage towers, and a small-big change in constantine's mansion.
I cant recall any other.

>>385217546
each talisman has its own level now.

can someone redpill me on thief? I tried playing t1 and it was pretty generic (didn't like the huge and empty levels) and I really couldn't stand the "horror" levels.

Guess I should clarify- gold is the one I've played. And I meant differences other than the 3 gold-only levels

>>385218748
yeah, play something else, faggot.

>>385218748
>I tried playing t1 and it was pretty generic
I fucking wish thief 1 was 'pretty generic'. That would mean there were more games like thief 1! When in fact there is only 1 game like thief 1 and that is thief 2
>didn't like the huge and empty levels
The huge levels are one of the best things about the game though? What's the last game you played where you could actually get lost like you can in Thief? This kind of design is almost unthinkable to developers in this day and age. Even on the rare occasion when a game isn't one long linear corridor where it's impossible to not know where to go, the devs will add a fucking gods-eye map and a quest compass! Even some of the fucking linear games have maps and quest compasses just to make sure you go pick the right direction through the corridor that only goes in 2 fucking directions (forwards and backwards)!
>I really couldn't stand the "horror" levels.
Dunno what to tell you on this one. I don't think they are supposed to be 'horror' though, they simply involve supernatural forces

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>>385218748
>tried playing t1 and it was pretty generic
Stay bluepilled kiddo

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>>385219489
what I meant by generic is that there wasn't anything that great about the gameplay that made me want to continue

>>385219906
What kind of reply are you expecting? You played a videogame and didn't like it, happens.
I suggest The Witcher 3, better graphics.

>>385220024
just trying to understand why people like it so much

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Starting a Thief thread with a debate which one is better is tiresome and bad. I could look at the archive for those discussions. Come up with something new for once, like, a group effort for a map.

>>385207728
A letter can be found in 'Framed' that confirms her infidelity.

I heard that there was a thief 2 mod that implemented a hub system. Anyone here knows something about that? And if Plutonia is here, when are you going to play FM's?

>>385220167
Maybe this helps I dunno. Most people like the game because its fun to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqwDGXxLhU

>>385220167
Because they like the gameplay.

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>>385219906
You want it to be like CoD4?

>>385206383
Wait what?
How do you bring bunnyhop back in Thief 2?

>>385220167
>why people like it so much
Level design
Sound design
Unique and unusual setting
Subtle storytelling (No one sits you down and explains in detail what's going on. This too is almost a lost art in modern game design)
The bow
The mission intro cutscenes
The Builder

>>385218748
>pretty generic
??????????????
is this bait, because you got me

>>385218764
I recall the bunch of Craymen being replaced by mage dudes in the Lost City. Don't remember much else.

This
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>>385217791
And on one of the bonehoard soulgems, and that fire spirit.
I think thats all.

Thief 2 may lack variety, but it makes up for it in consistent quality.

>>385208010
I think that it's one of my favorite levels in pretty much any game. The way it fucks with the player's expectations with just pure level design is genius and adds a lot to the surreal tone of the game.

The game overall is really good at pulling the rug from under the player, like at the moment when you meet the first zombie or see other supernatural shit for the first time. All these things are usually foreshadowed very lightly and because there's no big cutscene or something to highlight that weird stuff is coming, it's very impactful.

>>385223029
>well, if you have the money you can build any crazy mansion you want
At this point you imagine weird traps or security systems, but not what you end up having.

>>385219906
The gameplay is pretty "basic" stealth gameplay because it was basically the first first person stealth game ever, at least in the west. The fact that you don't shoot everyone was enough to make the game very un-generic when it was released.

Other than that it's just a very well made stealth game with that sweet Looking Glass Studios attention to detail and immersion.

>Reveal thineself, villain!

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>>385220272
I'd like to see Thief threads devoted to skin/texture editing, modelling, architecture, level design. You know, projects we can do together. I find the TTLG sticky lacking and outdated, but I guess you're stuck with lore and thief 1 vs thief 2