Why the hell are people so triggered by this game? It's

They want me to pay full price for a blatantly smaller game than MvC3. And that's even after I bought it twice. (UMvC3)

>>385117918
>It's clear for everyone that it has lower budget than MvC3.
okay but it's $60 and has a $30 character pack already

>>385117918
They're bandwagoning cucks

>>385117918
>$60 price tag

boo hoo poor developers :(

Explain why I should buy this instead of continuing to play UMvC3. What advantages does it have?

>>385118509
Isn't UMvC3 online kinda dead at least on PS4?

>>385117918
I really hate the voices in this. Morrigan, despite having the same voice actor, sounds really stupid when saying Soul Fist. And Doctor Strange's voice just overall sounds bad to me. He sounded nice and clear in UMvC3, here he gets drowned out.

>>385117918
Is this really the whole roster off the box?

>>385117918

>Why are shitting on it it's supposed to be shit

Fuck you, you fucking apologist

There is no fucking variety in series within the roster, especially with Capcom

All the cool newcomers are DLC BEFORE LAUNCH

>>385117918
Maybe they'd have a larger budget for their games if they hadn't ruined every single popular franchise besides maybe Monster Hunter.

>>385120227
It's missing the already revealed Nemesis, Spiderman and Frank West

Also since the leaks are confirmed true Firebrand, Ghost Rider, Dormammu, Monster Hunter guy, Ant Man and I dont know if im missing someone

Sigma and Venom are day one DLC I think

>>385117918
https://twitter.com/xMOONS/status/889727095320064000

One would expect characters like Daredevil or Punisher since they have or will soon have Netflix series so the game could help to promote them

But no, here you have Gamorah and Winter Soldier.

>>385117918
It's slowly looking better, and they even addressed that there will be a day 1 patch to fix Chun-Li's face and other graphical imperfections, so I don't mind that. But I still have a beef with the anemic base roster. If it weren't for that, I'd be on board.

>>385117918
>Bland, safe roster with less characters than vanilla 3 and only six actually new fighters, seven if you count Thanos, with the rest being lazily copypasted from the last game with very few changes
>Announce the game with a 30 dollar season pass that includes six more brand new characters that would have been on the base roster to begin with in any other title

Nah, MvCI is horseshit and I'm glad people are seeing right through it. Day one pirate, greedy as Capcom can eat a dick.

And that's ignoring the fact that they're removing fan favorites and franchise staples because of corporate politics, and have the audacity to tell people that they don't actually like the characters anyway.

Or the characters they didn't bring back, despite their blatant rehashing, for no apparent reason at all like Wesker, Phoenix Wright, Joe, MODOK, Ammy, Tron, etc. etc.

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>reduce your game from a 3v3 to a 2v2 so you have an excuse to shrink the roster

>>385117918
Because they're selling it to us at the same price as MvC3?

>>385120582
>Spider-man and Frank West

SOLD!

>>385117918
Is Jedah the character with the greatest change in design from previous depictions of the Capcom side so far? Like less of a weird schoolboy clothing and more like a gaudy priest.

>>385117918
That roster size is fucking embarassing

No Wesker no buy. No Vergil no buy. Characters aren't just "functions" for me. I play characters that I actually like regardless of how good they are.

People keep saying this game's roster is "safe", but does that term really make any sense when EVERYONE, from the normiest normie to the hardcoriest hardcore, hates the roster so much? If anything, the roster being as boring and small as it is risking the game's day one sales.

>>385121203
I actually prefer 2v2 to 3v3, but the roster size is absolute bullshit even if it were 1v1. How many characters did Tekken 7 have out of the gate again? What about KoF XIV? Why is Capcom the only AAA publisher getting away with this shit?

>>385117918
>It's clear for everyone that it has lower budget than MvC3.

So, fittingly it will have a lower price tag, correct?

What's Shuma Gorath's function and what could they get to replace it

>>385122089
Executives are dumb and out of touch, and their conception of safe isn't always actually safe.

>>385120924
yes, why would they have Gamorah and Winter Soldier from their billions of dollars movie franchises

are you stupid?

>>385122275
39, but that game had years in arcades of revisions first.

Because Disney is treating this game as advertising for their movies, not like an actual game.

They have no idea how to make games.

>>385122089

There is nothing surprising about the roster. That's the problem. It's lacks that WOW factor.

A big part of the appeal of these games is seeing crazy, unique, or out there character choices. People you'd never expect to see in a fighting game crossing over and fighting. That's why people get HYPE at roster announcements.

Look at Smash Bros reveals for example. When Nintendo adds an unexpected or off the wall character to the game, something no one ever saw coming, people lose their god damn minds.

Instead, it looks like Capcom filling out a checklist in order to meet some asinine quotas. They're giving fans the game they think they want, instead of doing something actually interesting. Because they're going into it treating characters like functions, failing to realize that they're the main draw of a crossover fighter.

tldr; Capcom doesn't understand their audience. Like with Street Fighter V, they're more concerned with FGC and sales from average joe players will suffer as a result.

>>385122565
At least they are over the hump of "this character is in because well-known/we had the assets already" by this point. Should be like 50% new characters at least from now.

>>385117918
>80 percent of roster is copy paste from umvc3
>graphics look like a fucking iphone game
>even the ui looks bland as fuck
>combofiend saying that characters are just functions and no one gives a fuck about x-men characters
>dlc out the ass and the game hasn't even come out yet

Cacpcom can suck a dick. It's obvious this game is rushed. They need to delay it at least until next year. There should be no reason for a game coming out on consoles to llok like that in 2017.

>They can't even Atleast give the newcomers their own trailer

>watch us play a game demonstrating Gamora and that other guy but we keep switching to Chun Li

>>385122843
Jedah didn't, but they had a trailer with Gamora released for SDCC

>>385121731
Yes. He got the SF5 treatment on top of being censored to hell and back.

No Doom no buy.

Not only is he a franchise staple, but he's one of the best and most iconic Marvel villains of all time.

Removing him so haphazardly, even more so than the X-Men, is just huge red flag about how little of a fuck Capcom gives about the fans of Marvel. If there was any one character they should have fought for to get in there, it was him.

But they didn't

So when are they releasing Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom Infinite?
>>385122972
Blame Ike Perlmutter, he hates the Fantastic 4

>>385123068
Probably next console generation when sales for DLC have passed.

>>385122275
KOFXIV is 3v3 though, so I'm not sure it makes sense to put it in your post.

Your point still stands, though.

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>>385117918
I dont go hateful, but really capcom have fail in alot of steps.
For the people that cant see the gameplay being different, they will see it as the same thing with 1 less character.
And the cast is recycle, then the story mode demo was awful, not only with terrible gameplay, but showing how the writting of the story was made for 4 years old with characters with forced interactions and lame lines

The game will be 60 bucks, and the only promess is "the cast will get better in the future.... when the DLC comes out.... and you have to buy it as well....."
that isnt promising, specially if the DLC characters are in the game story mode... that is lame and look like they are selling it appart. (talking about black panter)

>>385117918
Its a 20.00 download title being sold as a 60.00 game. No one should buy a game using 100% reused assets out the door. If you do buy this game, you are a fucking tard. Simple as that.

>>385122565
>only one new IP per side
>monster hunter and captain marvel
This perplexes me.

>>385119918

>fighting games
>online

>>385119918
PS4 had the worst netcode if I remember correctly.
Xbox and pc being just supperior

>>385117918
Shit roster. Shit game.

>>385122565
Pretty much this. Even without the leaks, the only surprising character on the roster would be Jedah. Wierd/niche/wacky picks are sorely missing in their current lineup, from both Marvel and Capcom's side.

For reference, MvC3 brought us MODOK, Task Master, Ammy, Phoenix Wright, Arthur, and many others.

>>385123335
This too is a huge problem. The lack of IP variety and representation. You can blame Marvel for their side all you want, but Capcom's end? No excuse. Compare to the number of franchises included in UMvC3 and it's laughable.

>>385123770
Modok and Taskmaster are not exactly obscure characters.

>>385123335
Monster Hunter hasn't even been revealed yet. Capcom still hasn't revealed any new IP representation, when they said this would be a platform to bring some of them back.

>>385123953
Obscure? No.

Characters you'd never expect? Yes.

>>385124037
Why not? Taskmaster was rather prominent in the 2000s and Modok shows up in damn near everything eventually.

>>385124318

Taskmaster is not exactly an A-lister, especially at the time of the game's release.

MODOK's bizarre character design and skillset made him an unlikely choice. That's why he's so great. A lot of time and effort went into crafting his moveset and animations, bringing him to life.

That's more than one generally expects from lazy Capcom, which is why one would have considered him pretty unlikely pre-reveal, and why seeing him in the game was so HYPE.

>>385123770
Capcom Franchises
MvCi has 10 franchises represented (11 if leaks prove true).
UMvC3 has 13.
Vanilla MvC3 had 10.
You're right, that's a travesty!

>>385118095
>>385118370
>>385118505
>>385123327
Don't even pretend that people would shitpost less if the game was sold cheaper. If anything they would use it as a proof that "the game was meant to be a cheap cashgrab". Selling a game for 40 or 30$ instead of 60 also never made the reviews for the game better.

Also, the content-price ratio is only bad if you already own UMvC3 and that game actually sold pretty poorly. I'm fairly convinced most people shitposting about MvCI don't even own MvC3 but just want to join the circlejerking.

>>385125003
Fuck off, I bought the $90 steelbook special edition of MvC3 when it launched.

Fool me once, shame on you.

>>385124970
my problem is with a lack of new franchises. Where's Power Stone, Rival Schools, Breath of Fire, Sengoku Basara, God Hand, Asura, Onimusha, Dino Crisis, and so on.

Friendly reminder that Spencer came back instead of Joe, Amaterasu or Phoenix Wright

>>385125274
He looks more kike a superhero

>>385124970

>10 franchises represented

Only 1 of them being new though

>Vanilla MvC3 had 10

Except you had 5 new franchises being represented

>>385125247
Rival Schools isnt new to the Vs games

>>385125274
Both Spencer and Nemesis also got in over Wesker too, somehow.

I didn't even play him and that baffles me. He was easily in the top 3 most popular new additions added in MvC3.

>>385125430
4, techically 3 if you count Yami from TvC

>>385125247
I agree completely with you, but pretending UMvC3 had a great Capcom side is ridiculous. The put in 2-4 reps from each series with only Frank and Wright being solos (Clover series are weird). I would've preferred 1-2 from each series so more franchises could've been in.

>>385125274
Fuck you man
I hate that they cut those but all I wanted was for Spencer to be back and him and Jedah are one of the few things I like on this shitty game even if Spencer kinda looks like shit

>>385125003
Lol I bought both the 90.00 Steel book and played UMvC3 in tournaments around my state for years. You can get fucked capcbro. MvCI is a 20.00 download title and it shows. There is even more embarrassing shit coming out against MvCI everyday.

>>385125449
Yeah, nothen personell, classmate was in CVS2 and Hiyama yelling incoherently was in TVC.

>>385125572
I think its the Clover reps that made it seem so great. Amaterasu was a great pick.

>>385125628
>UMvC3
>steelbook edition
wow, you really want to fit in and ride that MvCI hate train dick if you are so desperate in making shit up

and it's not like you wouldn't be an illiterate retard anyway. I've said most shitposters don't own, not everyone. I don't need the few specific people who actually bought the games (tho you are clearly not one of them) point it out that they did.

>>385117918
Theres a reason they are not calling it MvC4

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>>385125357
>Spencer looks more like a superhero than Viewtiful Joe

>>385126314
>Only 2 heads tall.
Like some kind of X-Babies parody version.

>>385126134
its a new start, specially because it use infinite stones.

>>385125274
What I want to know is why they have both Spencer AND Winter Soldier on the roster.

They're the same shit, except one has a grappling hook.

>>385126408
They had those in Marvel Super Heroes

>>385125572
>only Frank and Wright being solos
Haggar? Spencer? Hiryu?

>>385126486

He's gonna pull a retarded answer out of ass by saying

>past vs games outside marvel had ______

>>385126486
>>385126794
Nah, dawg. I'll admit I goofed on that one.
I'm an anonymous person on the internet, why would I try to defend my mistakes?

>>385125357
More than the guy who's actually dressed like a superhero...k.

>>385126912
Yes. Such a silly design.

>>385126883
Well, props for owning up to a mistake you made on here. You just don't see that often enough.

>Marvel vs. Capcom

>Marvel

>No budget


?????????????????

>>385126047
>385125003
He's saying he bought the original with the steelbook and played UMVC3.

>>385127358
You can't stay rich if you spend money

>>385126047
Steelbook for the original MvC3 was $90, buddy.

>>385127358
They're clearly pinching pennies with this title. Anyone with eyes can see it.

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>>385117918
Your face when Capcom it's gonna die in your lifetime.

>>385117918
Capcom and Konami need to die.

>>385125274
That's cuz we're gonna nickel and dime you to get them back via DLC, goy

>>385126047
>calls people illiterate retards
>can't read

is this the MvCI fanbase?

>>385125274

>Top 3 poll of MVC3 going into Ultimate was X, Strider and Phoenix Wright

>Phoenix Wright's inclusion saved the main series

>SoJ and DGS getting a sequel and Anniversary

>No inclusion

Atleast we are getting Monster Hunter

Couldn't they at least have used the Rearmed Spencer looks instead?

>>385118509
it doesn't have gayass otk's and it has combo breaker

The fact that they cut out characters then told people "you don't really like those characters" 0, only their functions!" I can understand them cutting characters in a non-crossover fighting game but not in a game that is all about two worlds colliding.

>>385125003
>He thinks I currently can't buy UMvC3 for the PS4/XBONE for even cheaper price than MvC: I
you're a special kind of retard aren't you?

>>385128405
That would have required a little extra time/money to make a new model, you silly goose!

In all seriousness though, they're probably just going to lock it behind a DLC paywall again.

>>385125003
>Don't even pretend that people would shitpost less if the game was sold cheaper.
They would. One of the biggest complaints about SFV was that it sold for retail price despite basically being the open beta dumped onto a disc and sold to us.

>>385122396
Wacky hitboxes.
Amingo

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>>385117918

As people have said its because of the re-hashed roster and how one of the dumbass capcom higher ups actually fuckin said in an interview: HURR DURR WHO EVEN KNOWS WHO THE XMEN ARE ANYWAY, DO PEOPLE EVEN WANT TO STILL PLAY THESE OLD CHARACTERS

....Even among x-men movies still coming out...its some of the most retarded shit I've seen from a dev in a good long while that wasn't Konami

I'm just gonna stick with the thought that if they keep making games that flop or not meet their retarded high sales figures (they believed sf5 would somehow reach 2 million within a year of it launching....seriously not even joking) they'll finally do something fans really want like I dunno go back to franchises we like instead of just 'sticking with the ones that sell well.'

Its almost physically painful seeing the studio they've become after all this time.

The one positive thing I can say about MvCI is that it doesn't have any Inhumans in it.

>>385120372
>>385117918
2017 was a good year for Capcom, they had their best Net and Operating income since at least 2013.
They have around 220 million $ in cash, and the amount of developers they employ is also rising every year.

Honestly I'm just upset the goofy characters didn't prominently come back

I wanted Joe, Amy, Tron, MODOK, Phoenix Wright

Glad for Arthur and rocket Atleast but I would've preferred NEW goofy characters

>>385126480
but no Marvel VS Capcom....
...
okay, is probably so it is label like the movie tie in.
and also it sound like a new game instead of sounding like a sequel.
So new people that dont know what a video game is, dont get confuse thinking about sequels and stuff.

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>tfw my entire MvC3 team is out

>>385117918

>Looks worse than an outsourced game (the previous one) despite being in house
>Awful models
>Reused assets
>Reused animations and even butchered some with no care for detail fucking up the animation itself (see Rocket Raccoon the most famous example)
>Ditched all X-Men because Perlmutter being a faggot
>Insults fans intelligence by saying they won't even remember who the fuck X-Men are

It's a fucking shame because the gameplay looks refined from UMVC3

I'll be honest, I'll probably get this when it's dirt cheap and comes with the dlc. I loved MvC3, and this is obviously a reused asset game with just a few new characters, so I'd probably end up having fun with it.

But it's insulting that they expect people to pay full retail price what I basically just described. This is MvC3 with a smaller roster, and what? only 5 or so new characters on release? The rest they want us to pay even more for afterwards? And the veterans from the last game have all the same victory/win quotes, animations, and supers from the last game. They're quite obviously copy and pasted.

There's no way you can't see how this game is being hated on.

>>385117918
Because of what it could have been. The game had so much potential, and all they had to do was not to fuck it up too much.

>>385122565

Is that why people keep asking for Gambit and Dr. Doom?

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I hate it because r/kappa tole me to. They even rehash my memes as hatefuel.

>>385124970
Variety is just a function gaiiiiis!

>>385129754
Speak for yourself, I like how Gambit plays since X-Men vs SF and grew fond of Dr. Doom in MvC2

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>>385118509
It has Jedah

>>385130658
And he is PG now, thanks Didney

>>385130658
I would have preferred raptor, demitri, or Q-bee

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>>385120835
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>>385131125
>no standing animation
Doesn't this game come out in like two months?

>>385131125
Love those no frames.

>>385131223
Its already gold, everything you see is final.

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>>385117918
>Why the hell are people so triggered by this game?
Allow me to give you a list

-Small roster missing series mainstays with some strange choices (Gamora? Monster Hunter?)
-Removal of assists
-2v2 instead of 3v3
-XTekken style tags and infinity gems giving the FGC XTekken 'nam flashbacks
-ugly art style
-copying movesets from 3 but removing magic series in favor of LP-HP LK-HK
-CHARACTERS ARE JUST FUNCTIONS

I, for one, welcome our new Dragonball overlords.

>>385131223
That's specifically during blocking. There are animations while in neutral.

>>385131389
Yeah dawg! Those day 1 patches are just empty gigabytes.

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>>385131429
>Not playing as a unicorn stripper

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PANTHER BARRAGE

>>385131504

Just like cammy's grab was fixed.

>>385131547
Just the king of a small African nation

>>385131547
Is he gonna get the wolverine function I wonder

>>385131738
Obviously. He's a claw fighter.

>>385122565
>Like with Street Fighter V, they're more concerned with FGC
It's actually a bit worse than that. Capcom is aware that the FGC keeps their game alive and are huge consumers of merchandise and DLC, and they're aware that they need to appeal to casuals to make money off of game sales, but they can't reconcile the two.

They make big fundamental changes to core gameplay systems in order to make the game easier for casual players, then completely neglect to create the content a casual player would actually give a shit about.

Or in MvCI's case, they've reduced the number of on-screen characters and removed things like OTKO's, but removed the magic series that let casuals do simple but effective 1-2-3 combos. Autocombo isn't a solution.

>>385131429
take out monster hunter, you literally get no new ips

>>385117918
I don't see why a low budget should justify a shit game. Either plan around the budget or don't make the game.

Frankly, Marvel should be ponying up the big bucks. MvC is a cultural thing.

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>>385131547
Hope Black Panter isnt in the story mode
Because that will just mean it was another character remove from the base game to sell as dlc later.

At least with Injustice 2, every single character in the story mode is in the base game....
Sure Darkseid still BS, but at least he is not in the story mode.

>>385121203
The series had always had 2v2 before UMvC3, though. l won't deny it's taking a step back.

>>385131907
He is, but he isnt playable/fightable in stroy mode like Urien/Juri was as far as we know

>>385132002
You mean MvC2.
I'm okay with it. How many teams had Dr. Doom solely for his assists and infinites? I'll gladly take the stones over that.

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The fact that they have characters in the story mode that you have yo buy as DLC makes me hate the game. At least ARMS gave you Max Brass for free and made HEDLOK an item.

>>385131840
What new games has Capcom even made since MVC3 came out? Remember Me?

>>385132179
MvC 1 had 2v2, also Dr .Dooms anit air was one of the best in MvC 2 and 3

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>>385132179
>You mean MvC2
Oh yeah! My mistake. l never really cared for 2. Played it alot back then but never got into it competitively like I did 3. I'm just hoping the stones aren't too broken.

>>385118095
/thread

>>385132259
Gaist Crusher and CrossXBeats, 2 JP only irrelevant games. Also Great Ace Attorney and Monster Hunter Stories, but those are sub series.

>>385118509
It doesn't have Forced Diversity: The comic a.k.a X-men characters so that's a major plus

>no Rival Schools
>no Power Stone
>no God Hand
>no Breath of Fire
>no Little Nemo
>no Asura's Wrath
>no Dino Crisis
>no Tech Romancer
>no Onimusha
>no Dragon's Dogma
>no Disney Afternoon
>no Ghost Trick
>no Red Earth
>no Saturday Night Slam Masters
>no Shadow of Rome

>no Cyberbots
>no Captain Commando
>no Star Gladiator
>no SonSon, Ruby, or Amingo

>>385122972
Simmons, is that you?

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>>385132071
mmmm, with how the games are expensive

Analist said that people will not pay for more than 60 bucks for base games.

maybe if we think of it like "80 bucks is the new base version that we would get if we live in an alternative time line, while the 60 bucks version is the lame shallow inferior version that shouldnt exist anymore"
...
But im sure even if the games were 80 bucks as base price, we still would get dlc packs for 100 bucks.

>>385132842
Who's Simmons?

>>385132740

Would actually make the game pretty interesting to play. But naaaah, if the characters aren't recognizable, it won't sell. So, all we have is Marvel Cinematic Universe vs Nu-Capcom and if I somehow knew how to code things and made my own version of MvC with said characters you posted, they would get me shut down.

Fuck video games.

>>385132740
Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2 when?

>>385132740
>a wall of literal whos
Sorry nerd but normies don't care about old dead franchises. This game is ruled by Marvel and the Mouse, they call the shots.

>>385132740
FUCKING
ADD
ASURA TO THE GAME

FUCK

GOD

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>>385132740
>Sonson
>amingo
...is sad to tell you... but they are dead
..
Ruby still have a chance tho

>>385133127
maybe as Season 03 DLC character.

>>385133058

Calling the shots by making a game that won't sell. really makes me think.

This another comfy MvC thread I see?

>>385132938
Im beginning to think Black Panther and Sigma are the only dlc characters they will announce before the game comes out.

>>385128961
still has captain marvel

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>>385133010
Will they fucking finally add Samurai Pizza Cats or Speed Racer?
Jesus.

>>385133058
they cared enough to bring back literal whos

not enough to make new literal whos though

>>385132740
>dragon's dogma
Man, I'd have been down for a rep. Daimon would have been great.

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>>385133163
>this stage is set in the "Bad Future" timeline
>we're living in it

>>385133327
Likely. That's my biggest fault with Capcom. They do not understand how to release information. KOF XIV teased, announced, and released 4 dlc characters over a month.

>>385133379
or even the arisen + a dedicated pawn tag member

they could be weaker on their own but would essentially give you a 3v2

>>385133329
Carol was one of the top 3 requested though for UMvC3. She would've made it in despite the recent push & movie. Those are just added bonuses for Marvel

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aw...poor little multimillion dollar company with no product but video games has to struggle so hard to make video games :(

>>385133010
Never ever EVAH.

would you wanted nu-capcom to fuck it up?

>>385118509
>Other than probably playerbase at launch, none. Wait till the "Ultimate version" comes out for $40.

>>385133329
I don't read comic books. Do people hate Captain Marvel or Ms Marvel more? The brown one.

And by people, I mean actual people and not just /pol/

>>385133595
Now how much money goes into making things?

>>385133716

again, poor little multimillion dollar company struggles so hard to make ends meet in a hard cruel world such as this :(

As a consumer why should i give a shit about anything other than quality of the game and price?
Why should I give a shit about capcom financiald or budgets? I don't work for capcom.

>>385133651
Didn't mean to imply

>>385133662
Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) is lukewarm. She's not too bad but Marvel has been pushing her hard and her writers are very inconsistent, and her artists are very tumblry.

Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) has less of a push and has had way better writers more consistently, but they recently dropped the ball with her hard.

>>385133817
They had to file for bankruptcy a few years ago

>>385133848

This, either you make a good game or you don't.

>>385132943
Either way, Doom isn't a franchise staple. He was hidden in MSH like Thanos & Anita but a built as a Boss Character, & he finally made it into Playable in MvC2, but even then, so did basically everyone. I know he's a good character, but 'Series Staple' is stretching it. Akuma & Wolverine though..

>>385133662
Captain Marvel by a landslide.
Ms. Marvel in his initial series was well liked and her sales numbers tanked when forced to crossover with Civil War 2 (aka Captain Marvel is right to encourage Minority Report).

>>385133163
>Non of the Slain and Aprehended characters show in MVCI
It seem to be cannon that the Xmen were aprehended or slain, and most of the capcom cast as well.

>>385133923
Akuma being in doesn't bother me that much. He isn't in MvC1 either.

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>>385117918
Really though guys why does everything besides some stages look so bad down to even the UI its like there going the cheapest route possible and putting in no effort but want full price for it regardless.

>>385134069
Ryu had a move that turned him into Akuma. Hell, he has more appearances than pretty everyone else since he was in X-Cota.

>>385133952
MvCI is a reboot though

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>>385134179
then why all the xmen and capcom characters are dead and not to were to be seeing?

I just can't understand why they changed the art and presentation so much. It was distinct, iconic, and looked great. The entire comic book style with the fonts, announcers, UI, and cel shading. It looked amazing.

All it needed were some better-designed stages to make it more visually readable.

>>385134162
Ryu could also turn into Ken in that game. I honestly think that's a much better way of having the shotos in the game.

>no Laura, Rashid, Necalli, R.Mika, Karin, Birdie, Urien, or Nash
christ

how hard would it have been

just one of these to rep SFV

>>385134507
>Only three of those characters are even from SFV

>>385135064
they're all characters that are either newcomers or are back after a long hiatus

>>385133662
Carol before she became Captain was liked because she had problems & was imperfect. People confronted her about said & she didn't get away with said issues. Brian Reed took advantage of this and wrote one of Carols best runs showing that if it wasn't the fact that she wanted to be liked, due to her status of being a C-B tier hero with little attention, she would've been a villian due to her military training & sometimes hot headed attitude. She had even worse drinking problems than Tony but that's why a lot of people liked her, she wasn't a mary sue & she was a female character with problems. But after her name change, her next run was written by someone who is infamous for bad writing, turned every action into having no consequence, have her on ANOTHER amnesia trip, & turning her into a self insert Mary Sue. Things got worse after Civil War 2 aka A Shitty Minority Report rip-off. Basically, Marvels push changed her for the worse.

>>385133595
239 million $ revenue and 26 million income isn't much

single big budget video games have 100 million $ budget without marketing

Destiny had over 400 million $ budget together with the marketing

Capcom has to juggle multiple game series from much less

>>385133817
>>385133595
you are fucking retarded you know that?

>>385134069
I'm fine with Akuma not being in one game, I even fine with no Wolverine. The roster needs to be good though & it isn't shaping up to be one.

>>385134507
nobody wants to remember sfv

>>385135272
>>385135367

>mmmuh costs!!

If capcom didn't abuse their loyal customers with some of the greediest anticonsumer policies in the industry maybe they'd have more money :p

>>385135525
It worked in the 80s-90s, just fell apart when the consumerbase changed and failed to adapt successfully.

>>385131547
Wouldn't he fight more like Sabertooth?

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>>385135525
Why do you keep making emojis?

>>385136102
I'd totally be fine with this.

>>385117918
That roster is sad

I wasn't wowed by MVC3 when it first came out, really felt like a downgrade to me. Then Ultimate MVC3 came out and I got so hyped around it that I bought it and played it a ton.

I've never played vanilla MVC3, the little I've seen of it looks uninteresting and unpolished. Maybe it'll be the same way with Infinite. In a year, they'll make Ultimate MVCI with everything you want and more and be spectacular.

>>385135525
>If capcom didn't abuse their loyal customers with some of the greediest anticonsumer policies in the industry maybe they'd have more money :p

you are talking about the SFxTekken dlc controversaries?
>game has 40 fully fledged, good looking characters with cinematic arcade modes, while other fighting games had like 25 at best
>b-but capcom is greedy, they didn't gave us even more Content, it doesn't matter that the base game had already way more content than what other fighters have

Or megaman legends 3 cancellation?
>series is poorly recieved and sells poorly
>people suddenly get fucking surprised and upset that a sequel gets cancelled

Not saying they aren't fucking things up but the whole anti costumer bullshit is extremely overexeggerated. They hardly do anything differently than other companies. If they are fucking something up it's the failed experiments with new IPs and outsourced development. The fuck ups with SFV and MvCI are already caused by their financial issues.

>>385136358
>Shuri!
>Yes, brother!

>>385135272
That was 2014.
2017 they had nearly 80 million in income.
Also they have 220 million in cash.
http://www.hoovers.com/company-information/cs/revenue-financial.capcom_co_ltd.472dd6d0825c9dd7.html

>>385136508
the controversy with the SFXT wasnt that "how dare they dont give us more content" it was that the content was already in the disc that rub people the wrong way.

Also people dont liking the game as much didnt help

>>385118509
it doesn't have the new HYPE new scene for EVO

>>385118095
Im not buying any more Capcom fighters after the shit they pulled in mvc3

the story mode in this game is extremely cringeworthy. it's so corporate in its tone and writing.

>it's an honor to fight besides you chun-li, the world's strongest woman.
>any time thor of asgard, one of earth's mightiest heroes.
>DANTE SON OF SPARDA LEND ME YOUR GUNS
>FOR YOU ROCKET RACOON GUARDIAN OF THE GALAXY ANYTHING

>>385129754
only function tier whores liked doom anyway
doom for rocks in 2
doom in 3 for footdive, infinites, hidden missiles, his mobility
none of the fantastic 4 characters were HYPE or awesome but they made skrull fucking work which is something actually fucking new

>>385136963
Seriously. There has to be a better way to introduce characters than having them shout each other's names with no follow up dialogue. It feels like they're taking roll of who all is there.

i'm going to be really upset if they make Venom have Skrull's function

>>385137209
I love doom as a character though

>>385136963
Gotta go though the motions.

>>385136764
I get it that it "wasn't nice" but people got so fucking extremely upset by it it's unreal.They completely ignored how much content and production value the base game actually had. Just go into metacritic user reviews, all of them are literally: the game has fucking lot of characters, the graphics are great etc... but there is dlc that could have been in the base game: 1/10 score.

at least ghost rider is in

that's pretty cool

>>385135272
>100 million $ budget
That's not true, most games have 20-50 million as budget, the majority of expenses are marketing.
It's not rare that the marketing budget is 5 times as big as the development budget.
Also the Desinty 500 million was Kotick lying for hype, the contract was leaked and it was less than 140 for development + marketing.

Stop defending Capcom milking their custumers.
The company is healthy and in good condition, there is no need for them to milk the fans.

>>385137626
> 5 times as big
That was an error on my part, there have been such cases but they are rare.
Normally the marketing budget is around 0.5-2.5 of the development budget.

>>385136508
>SF x T has game breaking bugs that softlock your console
>Doesn't get tended to for months
>OH BUT BUY OUR GEM DLC AND CHARACTERS
Eat shit

>>385137518
well, thats because people is retarded at scoring stuff.
and metacritic should never be use because numbers with out context is dumb.

>>385137626
capcom releasing 4 times less games last year or the year before that than any year 5-10 years ago is a fact

recent Capcom games having much less marketing than their games from 5-10 years ago is also a fact

recent Capcom games having lower budget is noticable, and considering the other facts it's unlikely that they are lowering the budget because they just want to make greedy cashgrabs because then they would still push marketing with full force and would make games like this for all of their requested IPs like dmc or megaman.

>>385137894
game having bugs isn't anything special and what you are talking about was fixed in the first month, and the softlock is a fucking meme

>>385131532
It's the worse rep for the series and you will be getting male rathalos hunter you retard
Should have been a felyne at least they have personality and a simple moveset

>>385138376
Capcom has more developers than they ever had.
Modern games require more man power than older games.

>>385133547
Fuck no, please the hunter is retarded enough we do not need more characters with no personality add an npc from the game not that shit

>>385134362
I disagree it was unique but it just proves combofiend right I hate ryu but love ken but you are suggesting my love of ken is for his function

>>385139528
Yes. If Ken didn't have fire on his uppercuts or step kick you wouldn't play him

>>385139051
you really didn't read the full story. Sure they stated that they are opening new studios but they also stated that the people they hire there are freshly graduated people.

Them moving development inside these in-house studios is actually cheaper than co-developing with other high reputation companies than how they did before. It's also what probably happened with MvCI and the reason why some part of the game looks so amatureish

>>385139343
we already have 3 robots and a mindless zombie

>>385139705
No I played Dan through out sf4 I play characters I like not cause of move sets I could have played ragna in blazblue but I stuck with bang through the whole series because I like him more visually

>>385139803
They have stories and personalities a hunter or the Mc of dragons dogma does not because they are just your avatar they are never given a personality a canon look nothing it's retarded to want literal nobodies

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>>385136560
Oh yes. That can definitely work.

>>385139965
All player characters are avatars of the player

>>385140157
Explain the personality of the hunter from monster hunter, oh wait he has none, how about his look oh wait he does not have one, in a game all about fan service the hunter is the WORST choice form MH

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>2017
>still playing CAPCOM fighters and not Arksys ones

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>>385139747
Capcom is in their best shape since 2008 and this is a fact. The excuse that MvC infinite has a small roster because of no money is bullshit.

>but they also stated that the people they hire there are freshly graduated people.
While this is standart practise in Japan, Capcom also has multiple studios worldwide, it would be nice if you could provide a source for your claim.

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>>385141059
Wrong picture.

>>385141059
They may be in their best shape, but the RE7 DLC was delayed, MvC Infinite's roster was cut for DLC. Maybe they just decided they don't give a fuck and want more money.

>>385141313
>Maybe they just decided they don't give a fuck and want more money.
Correct, this is exactly what they are doing.
Because of that I can't stand people who defend Capcom, and claim they are a poor company, that needs to cut corners to survive.

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>>385117918
I could forgive the small roster if it was almost entirely new characters but it's not. Vs games should focus on making a new and unique roster every new game to keep things interesting. I can't get hype for any almost any of the cast because my hype for them wore off 5 years ago.

>>385117918
It's just popular on /v/ to hate capcom right now and the teenage population on here doesn't think for themselves.

>>385141779
Yeah man, you're such an enlightened gentleman for paying for a cashgrab rushed piece of shit. God the Capcom shills aren't even trying any more.

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>>385121731
They went from Bancho Devilman to whatever the hell he is now.

>>385142029
>>385141779
Its popular to hate on Capcom everywhere except Japan.

>>385141059
the source is the same article about Capcoms plans for the upcoming years you've just posted from. They stated that they are making studios where they are planning on hiring 100 new employee every few years in the next years but also stated that these will be newly graduated people.

If they only do this to move development inhouse to these studios instead of co-developing with other big studios that doesn't mean they are doing better. It's also possible that they want to show themselves stronger than they are because of the investors.

Still facts are facts: Capcom released 6 games in 2016 and only a few so far in 2017 while in 2012 they released 24. Also if you compare the marketing of MvC3 or SFxTekken or SF4 with SFV and MvCI, there is a huge as fuck difference. They are lowering costs in everything, not just in development.

>>385136102
This would be the best case scenero since Wolverine is DLC but I don't think Capcom has the foresight for this.

>>385142181
Devilman has all kinds of nifty designs in it. Has there been any fighting games with characters other than that one Japanese PSP exclusive crossover game?

>>385142432
True costs are down, and Capcom releases less games, but financially they are in a much better position than 5 years ago.
Capcom is more focused on larger projects, I don't think that they did large cuts to their development budget but more to their advertisment budget.

>>385131429
I actually don't mind the 2v2 over 3v3 since that still has the potential to be fun. Everything else I agree with

>>385143650
>2v2 over 3v3
Same. im surprised a lot of people think being 2v2 is a bad thing, especially since this isnt the first time it happened

>>385143650
>>385143983
Here's a thought:
Why not both?

>>385137602
Someone who has good taste. Ghost Rider is fucking great.