How do I into Miku (and Vocaloid in general) games? I have a PS4, PS3, and Vita.
>>385072745
You don't. For your own sake. If you're a bad enough dude, then get Future Tone, and be set for life.
If you just wanna try it out, try PD 2nd on ppsspp.
If you have only $20 to spare, get F2nd.
If you want to go all in get Future Tone or wait for the physical GOTY edition with all the DLC included.
It's a slippery slope though~
Future Tone on ps4 is the most comprehensive in the series, but doesn't have the same art style and gameplay as f/f2nd/x. I'd say grab the demos for f and x and the base game for Future Tone and see where you want to go from there.
>>385072745
Get Future Tone
Patty cake with migu!
Is Miku Monday dead?
Why is this allowed?
>>385072745
get the demo for future tone
if you don't like it, then you won't like any of the others
if you do like it, buy colorful tone and future sound, buy X too
and thats pretty much all you need
future tone has 99% of the songs from the other non-X games excluding like 2
X has its own great songs and is worth buying
>>385074735
What happened to that poor girl's nipples?
>>385074415
yes
Forgot to mention that the Japanese version of f2nd has pretty much all the good edit mode PVs/charts. Most of them are really hard though so it's more like an endpoint than a starting point for Diva games.
>>385072745
I just couldn't get into Vocaloid games, I enjoyed playing the game on the PSPwhile I'm on the toilet.But I didn't enjoy it when I played it on my PS4. Though it's been years between the time I played the PSP game and the PS4 game, so maybe I just lost interest in the genre.
Why is the gameplay of Project Diva games so shitty? I can play basically every Miku game (except Future Tone, tfw no ps4), but I end up exclusively playing Mirai DX and that Gumi PSP game
>>385076551
What makes them shitty?
Most notecharts manage to be fun even if you don't particularly like the song.
I couldn't even get through that slogfest mirai dx because it's too fucking easy
Rin needs her own game now that Gumi and IA have their own.Len can be included if necessary.
>>385076551
I found Mirai to be too easy and I eventually lost interest after clearing it and never bothered replaying it. I've never tried the Gumi game, all I know is that it didn't do well.
>>385076658
The note chart for Two-Faced Lovers in F2nd has always been one of my favorites. It's a lot of fun to play it.
>>385076913
Extend's one would be better than f2nd if it didn't forget it was a 9* during the choruses.
>>385076913
I didn't like the star notes in F2nd at all. I don't really like the slide notes in FT though, but I think Extends was the best since and I like the double notes and non-freeform holds.
is it wrong that the only thing motivating me to play with len modules is so I can unlock the ones where he looks like a girl?
>>385072745
also want in. i can start with the first vita release, right? i think i bought it for really cheap long time ago, and have yet to download it. or should i start with the PSP games?
>>385080176
You can start with the Vita game
The only big differences are the track list and some minor control differences
>>385080176
if you have a psp already you can play 2nd and extend for free, don't bother with the first one, it's completely obsolete as 2nd and extend have all of it's tracklist + new songs between the both of them, pls the original runs like complete dogshit and couldn't even maintain steady framerates during high BPM songs like disappearance, even if the 3D graphics were turned off.
>>385080417
>2nd and extend have all of its tracklist
Not completely true but you're right otherwise. Project Diva 1 is probably the weakest in the series.
>>385072745
Become an addict. Afterwards, get FT DX and VR for PS4 for more Miku. Then question yourself about what the purpose of your life. Finally resolve that question by buying Miku Merch.
migu
>>385084429
Your dedication to Dayo is impressive
What are your self imposed goals for Future Tone to keep you playing? Mine is to perfect all my favourite songs on hard, I've done more than 50 hours on the game but I still don't get bored. Wheres as I got bored after about 3 hours of playing Guitar Hero Live. Miku is truly the only way to go about it.
>>385085524
I don't really have any set goals anymore since I have about nothing else to play besides Project Diva. Essentially just git gud and not feel suicidal.
>>385086567
A good a goal as any.
>>385075050
They was not allowed.
>>385075517
Did you fart in rhythm?
>>385084429
>tfw you get to see your Mikudayos posted on /v/
Will "I'm Glad You're a Lolicon!" by Takebo3 ever be in one of these games?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t04YawIJfhA
>>385088769
Not popular enough
>>385088769
What?
>>385088769
>Glad you're a lolicon
>Originally sung by Miku
>Neru
It's never happening.
>>385089626
(*´ω`*)モキュ(*´ω`*)モキュ
>>385073938
They should so this game but make it footsies with her bare feet instead...
Buy Future Tone and have some fun.
>>385091023
I'm waiting for the physical release
>>385091130
Are you the OP?
>>385091187
Then why are you telling me?
>>385091261
because it looked like you were just telling everyone to get it
>>385072745
Get F2nd on PS3
git gud
Then get Future Tone DX when it releases on PS4 later this year
>>385091352
But I didn't.
>>385091109
I don't get why Tako is associated with Popipo so much.
>gonna buy a PS4 just for miku
>>385091391
Do not get F2nd on PS3 just to get future tone later. Future Tone has all but 1 song from F2nd.
>>385091614
Yeah F2nd has a fantastic intro tracklist, with great difficulty that leads well into FT.
With tracklist concerns, you'd want X
But X isn't a good intro to the series
And F's controls and difficulty aren't as tight as F2nd's, while also having most of its songs return in FT
And obviously getting FT now before XD comes out is foolish.
>>385091827
>And obviously getting FT now before XD comes out is foolish.
How is it foolish? FT was $35 the other day. That's about as cheap as you're gonna get F2nd. And you get 180+ more songs than F2nd for that price. Hell, even getting one single songpack now with 127 songs is a better idea than getting F2nd, even if you buy FT DX later. The diva room isn't such a great feature than you'd sacrifice 80 fucking songs just to headpat miku.
>>385091827
>And F's controls and difficulty aren't as tight as F2nd's, while also having most of its songs return in FT
Aside from star notes and normal mode it's not really easier than f2nd.
>>385091928
>sacrifice 80 songs
DX is going to have 237 songs, which is CT, FS, and all three Encore packs plus Ghost Rule.
What are you talking about?
Even if you got the full base FT at $35, the DLC packs would run you up another $30.
So that savings on the base game is worthless compared to buying DX.
One thing you should note is that FT is a port of the arcade cabinet project diva, the note charts are not designed for a controller, you're meant to press multiple face-buttons at the same time and most interesting gameplay comes from holding down multiple buttons while using your other hand to keep tapping.
To do this on a controller, they cheated and let you macro buttons to specific combos.
Also no edit mode or diva room and no patty cake.
>>385092280
I don't think you understand. Let me explain it for retards since you are obviously one of them. You recommend F2nd. 39/40 songs of F2nd are in Future Tone. F2nd costs $25. You are paying $25 for 40 songs. A single song pack in Future Tone costs $30 on the NA PSN, you are paying $30 for 127 songs.
You are saying that
$25 / 40 songs
is better than
$30 / 127 songs
Which it obviously is not, especially when 39 songs of those 40 songs should be in the pack that gives you 87 more songs for $5 more.
And back to the sale, FT was $35 and the season pass was $17. That was basically $52 for 236 songs. On another note DX is so far only confirmed for JP release aswell, which means localization of it might take another few months ontop of already waiting for the JP release at the end of the year. I don't care how much you hate digital, but simply recommending someone to pay for F2nd when he already could play 3 times the content for basically the same money is fucking retarded.
>>385092623
But the question is GETTING INTO Diva.
F2nd is a great place to start. It is, in my opinion, the definitive core Diva experience.
If money is THAT much of a concern, then obviously just fucking wait for DX.
But if you want to get into it RIGHT NOW, buying FT is a fool's errand.
Especially now that the sale is over so it'd require waiting for another one, and who knows when that'll happen.
Was that really so hard to figure out
>waiting for the localization
You don't need to read to play a rhythm game
On another note, F2nd and FT don't play identically and don't have the same patterns despite sharing songs.
Track list isn't everything.
>>385092923
>F2nd is a great place to start
So is future tone. It's arguably even a better starting point than F2nd since it's biggest miku game which you end up playing the longest with different mechanics than F2nd. I'm pretty sure people have so much problems with FT because they are coming from the other games in the series and have a hard time adapting to the different mechanics. FT has an easy / normal mode aswell that most people never end up playing because they go in with the mindset that they should be able to clear 10 star songs right from the get go.
>>385093064
Well the way I'm thinking it
Buying FT right now is stupid, because DX is basically a GOTY edition with all its content at a reduced price.
So if I want to start playing Diva right now, which is the best game (limiting to PS4, PS3, Vita)?
F2nd.
This is a basic Diva game with all the regular series features.
I can play all these good-ass songs which I'll be able to return to in FT later (which will help me acclimate to FT because knowing the songs means A LOT).
And the game is flush with content and a proper challenge that can carry me for the months leading up to FTDX's release, while I practice, collect modules and parts, and acquire proficiency. My thumbs get faster and I understand dual wielding, etc.
FT's mechanics are hard for PS4 players because they weren't designed around a PS4 controller. Multiple hold buttons will never not be strange. It's the entire reason why macros exist in the settings.
So I think jumping into FT as a new player, who doesn't even know the basics of timing or technique, might be a little unwise.
Miku's motion data is rigged by old men for money!
>>385093812
DELETE THIS
>>385093619
I jumped into FT as a new player back when it came to NA in January. I had moderate experience with rhythm games but hard mode crushed me at first. Eventually I practiced and practiced, and cleared the entire setlist on hard. But then hard became too easy, so I moved onto extreme. And then I got crushed by extreme. Now, 7 almost 8 months later, I'm clearing 10 star Ex-Extreme songs with relative consistency. I loved the game so much I spent a shitton of money on Rin merch, and now I'm finishing up my custom arcade controller after importing buttons and getting a shitton of help from /jp/ and close friends with designing/building it. F2nd is basically obsolete right now, unless your life depended on being able to headpat and get friend zoned by the Crypton 6, playing Kagerou Daze, and playing edit mode songs of questionable quality. You're putting way too much importance behind a physical release that literally only adds one extra song and a handful of modules.
>>385094784
Your advice also hinges on the assumption that it's normal to spend at least $700 in a single year on migu.
>>385094784
>You're putting way too much importance behind a physical release that literally only adds one extra song and a handful of modules.
And also compiles all of the currently-available content for a lower price.
>>385094964
>at least $700
... What?
>>385094964
wait, it isn't?
fug :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
well, either way, the reason I dislike f, f2nd, and X, are because they force you to clear the songs on normal and hard before being able to play them on extreme, though I think for X you "only" have to clear it on normal before extreme becomes unlocked, I don't remember. the downside is that you're forced to play through an incredibly lame pseudo-rpg/visual novel instead of just being able to play actual game
>>385095108
your claim of buying FT being stupid is not only really bold, but it's also really dumb. your entire argument rests on the assumption that DX will come to NA regions, or if you're going to say something such as "then I'll just import the JP copy" then you can go ahead and forget about saving money because you'll end up paying more or less the same amount after shipping fees + markups, and even then, all the menus would be in moonrunes.
>>385073440
> physical GOTY edition with all the DLC included
Don't joke with me like that
>>385095752
>your entire argument rests on the assumption that DX will come to NA regions
You don't need English to play it though
I'm not waiting for the localization.
Just I didn't the first time.
>all the menus would be in moonrunes
Boo hoo
Menuing is 99% memorization anyway. And the song lists have art and audio clips so you don't need to read the titles.
>>385096004
Google Project Diva Future Tone DX
all the menus are katakana and so are half the song titles
you should know it by now
>>385096041
Holy shit it's real. Hail Miku.
>b-b-b-b-but DX wont come to NA
Fuck off with your fearmongering.
You're like that project diva autist on youtube who made a whole video complaining about DX and how you shouldn't buy it because he's angry that people will be getting the last DLC pack for free while he still has to fork out more money.
>>385096449
Link me
>>385096041
good job dodging the part where I said that importing a copy basically negates any potential money you'd "save," which was your entire argument from the beginning. remember, the standard edition alone is ~$71. That's not including any sort of shipping fees or customs fees (if you live in a country where those would apply.) Currently the future tone bundle is $53.99 for both packs, plus $30 for the season pass, so that's $84 not including the DX content. If you seriously think that waiting 3-4 months is worth saving $13 (BEFORE SHIPPING,) then you're deliberately being obtuse. And if by some miracle your row-boat e-packet shipping costs less than $13, then congrats, add another month or so waiting for that to ship.
>>385096513https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNLTgZr5UIg
>>385072745
get future tone, it has just about every song from the old project diva games, project diva x is garbage
>>385096601
Well if money is that fucking much of a concern, the wait for the inevitable NA release
Fuck, if it's THAT much of a concern, I already said just wait for DX period.
All this
>uh fuckin' but uh importing fuckin' shipping muh money fuckin' uhhhhhh
It's just autism trying to desperately claw out a flaw in my original advice.
F2nd -> Future Tone DX is a good way to get into the series. In my opinion, the best way.
Full stop.
Project Diva turned me into a weeb.Vitagen is at fault, too.
>>385096735
>DX
Get out.
>>385072745
Why would you Miku is nothing but a filthy fake
>>385096735
you're the one who kept droning on about how buying FT is foolish and stupid because "muh reduced price GOTY version"
so lemme start from the top. the discussion goes as: what is the best game to buy to get into miku? you said f2nd was the best to start out with, being ~$20 for 40 songs and the other content. However, another anon pointed out that buying even just one half of future tone, for ~$30 gives you another 80+ songs on top of the original 40. You then said that buying FT currently is a dumb idea because the GOTY version will come out that includes everything at a reduced price. I pointed out that you don't really save any money waiting for DX, as the cost evens out after shipping and importing fees compared to buying the digital version, as well as pointing out that there's no guarantee that an english physical release will happen (as far as we know.) you also said that localization doesn't matter and that you only need to memorize the menus. cont.
>>385096924
all aidoru lip sync baka gaijin
>>385096610
>reee 83.1%
>brainwashed
>idolizing p5
>screwing up at Future Tone in the background
Sure it doesn't bring much to the table if you have digital or you're not a buyfag but fuck this guy 2bh.
>>385096610
God damn that's a lot of autism for something that's pretty fucking routine in the 2017 gaming industry
>>385097278
so this brings us back around to the original question, yet again. is it really appropriate to suggest to a newcomer that the best way to get into a series is to import a copy in a language they might not be able to read and understand? sure there's no dialogue, story, or anything of the like, but even then, it's a slightly tall order. it's an objective fact that future tone provides the superior amount of content for a newcomer. ok, sure, the mechanics are slightly different from f2nd to FT, but does it really matter when the latter provides more than triple the raw content?
we currently don't know if DX is coming to NA, if it does, then you can go ahead and disregard a good chunk of what I'm saying, but even then. buying f2nd is ~$20, and then buying DX will bring that up to ~$80 considering games usually sell for $60 here. so at most, buying f2nd and then waiting (if it comes to NA) for DX and buying that, compared to buying future tone + bundles saves you $10
>>385097278
>>385097683
>implying I'm gonna read this poorly-formatted autism dump
OK anon, you got me. You're smart and I'm dumb.
You've been right all along!
Happy?
Miku is dying though. Hachi just sentenced it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS4q9yaWJkI
@385097890
>muh formatting
nice fucking argument, buddy
>>385098230
>people should read my posts no matter how poorly I write
No
>>385073938
>Not playing the superior Yankee Doodle with Luka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQd6Qv6aGA
@385098307
>has the patience to wait 5 months to import a game that's already out
>can't read a fucking post because there isn't enough indentation
just fucking concede already
>>385098502
I can do other things while I wait.
Like not reading your shitty post.
>>385098564
Can you read my post instead?
>>385072745
If you have a PS4 there's little reason to get anything but Future Tone.
Don't forget to feed your Miku plenty of bacon wrapped hotdog.
>>385098916
What should I feed my Luka?
Should I get Future Tone or the whole bundle?
>>385098943
A Miku.
>>385098943
Cummies?
JK she like hot dogs too. Hot dogs for everyone!!!!
>>385098958
Try it first: if you like it, buy the bundle as you will buy it sooner or later anyway.
>>385098958
Future Tone is a bit awkwardly split. The base application is free and comes with 2 songs. Then there's 2 large song packs, one is Future Sound that has 127 songs and the other one is Colorful Tone which has 95 songs. They are basically the maingame, when you buy the Future Tone bundle which should be like 55 bucks or something you get those 3 together. If you then want additional stuff there's a season pass. You don't need to buy anything else, especially not the unlock key.
>>385098990
>>385099021
Which should I believe?
>>385098564
here's your reply to sate your autism
>implying starting with f2nd is a good idea when FT offers triple the content for $10 more
>implying waiting for DX is a better idea when you can get virtually all of the content except for ONE song for the same price right this moment
>implying importing a copy is cheaper than buying the digital version
>implying localization doesn't matter for a newcomer
>implying slightly different mechanics are better than triple the setlist
>implying headpats and a dressing room are more than just a short gimmick
>implying buying f2nd and then FTDX is the best route
eat a fucking dick
>>385098958
try the initial demo, if you liked it, get the bundle.
>>385099108
Let's meet halfway:
Bacon wrapped Miku
>getting into Future Tone
>finally scraping through 9*, making a real go of it
>too busy to play regularly, other games come along
>try to go back
>multi notes confuse my fingers and I randomly fail things I could pass before
Fuck rhythm games ;-;
What happened to Miku mondays? Why it is Miku martes instead?
Anyways, I wanted to say that muscle memory is an amazing thing. I don't even know how I do things anymore.
>>385099132
There is no need to be upset
>implying localization doesn't matter to a newcomer
I know a guy who bought JP Future Tone as his first Miku and adapted juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine.
>>385099168
I'm not sure if I'm all right with letting her indulge in cannibalism.
What's the best song and outfit in Future Tone to look at Rins panties?
any good newer Miku songs you guys recommend?
I'm tired of listening to the classic miku stuff, and the new songs don't seem that good
>>385099269
>Wanting Rin panties instead of the superior Miku panties
>>385099341
I like Miku panties too. All panties are good panties
>>385099232
that may be the case, but there's literally nothing wrong with buying future tone right now. waiting for DX is a really dumb idea unless you have a massive backlog or aren't very interested in the first place
there's literally no real upside at all unless you desperately crave a physical copy
What are the chances of a physical English release of Future Tone or DX? I don't mind waiting for a physical release if it's inevitable.
>>385099709
If you've managed to wait over a year already for the regular version than another year shouldn't bother you.
>>385099341
Why do mittens look so cute on her?
>>385099709
there's not enough information currently available to answer that. the only thing we know so far is that Sega is going to release the GOTY dlc stuff for the digital copy here in the west
>>385099785
I think it's because you're stupid.
>>385099423
Truer words have never been spoken.
>>385099468
Not him but I want to indulge my physical fetishes while I can. I'm well aware digital is the smarter option.
>>385099982
don't fret, anon. like I said, "unless you desperately crave a physical copy"
I don't mind if someone waits for the physical version, but saying that buying the digital version is stupid and foolish is where I draw the line
>>385099860
sluts
>>385100308
Maybe MEIKO and Rin, happily groping their peers. Miku and Luka surely are there lying in confusion.
>>385099860
post upper body
>>385099225
PS4 controller?
>>385101130
I'll never understand people who blame PS4 controllers for failing at games. It reminds me of people who are shit at fighting games and say it's because they don't have a stick. There's plenty of videos of people getting 10 star perfects with PS4 controllers even without macros, but people refuse to practice to get there.
>>385101302
Just because it's possible doesn't mean it isn't significantly more difficult.
There's a reason arcade cabinets don't have controller layouts.
>>385101302
>That SAFE
>>385101442
And how exactly is it more difficult?
>>385101130
I was tempted to get that figure before but it doesn't look that good. I guess I dodged a bullet there.
>>385101302
I'm not blaming the controller, I know it's perfectly doable. I was just asking what controller he was using.
>>385101559
I got it for cheap and I love the outfit, so I'm happy.
>>385101521
Because the note charts are designed assuming you have four very big buttons very close to each other that you press with two hands, fingers if necessary (like combining holds). You can reach the slide panel up top without letting go of a hold.
On PS4, you have two thumbs.
Without using macros, a four-hold is already sorta awkward.
But then you have shit like holding one button, while all three other buttons are flying in rapidly, but half of your input ability is taken up by that first hold, what happens when a second hold shows up?
Not to mention having to leave the primary input to enter slide notes (because L1/R1 won't suffice when you have double rights/lefts)
It's fucking awkward. There is a very, very good reason why macros exist.
>>385101521
Not him, but there is a logical progression in the charts that makes it much easier when the layout is horizontal, like in >>385099231
That said, fast notes are easier on a DS4, as you can drum them with a duplicate set of buttons.
And of course, you can be good either way, given enough time.
i found out about project diva back when the newest game was 2nd. if you told me at the time it would still be getting sequels and get localized into english i'd never believe it.
>>385101810
>>385101886
>people literally think moving your entire arm is easier than pressing down your thumb on two buttons at the same time
Just hold your fucking controller for a moment and try to press the square button. You'll most likely hold your thumb over X already. How hard can it be to just press them both at the same time? And it's the same for the d-pad where pressing down/forward or back/up hits double notes perfectly. I don't know what kind of games you guys have been playing so far but I must be some kind of superhuman when it comes natural to me to press those buttons together. Actually the only thing I agree on is the double slides notes because I do those with the sticks since I don't use my middle fingers for R2/L2.
>>385102307
Press square and triangle at the same time.
And then do a 3-roll X input
>>385102521
You hold Up/forward with the left thumb and press x? Or are you saying that hitting the giant arcade button 3 times is easier than the one on a controller? What are you getting at here?
What does /v/ think of pinocchioP?
>>385102307
The arcade layout is not easier because it's faster, it's easier because the game takes into account that square is next to triangle and when it tells you to hold both, it is immediately processed in your brain as you just have to press both with the entire hand. Likewise, things as pressing square and cross while holding triangle and circle are super easy in the Arcade: you just hold the outer buttons with the palms and drum the buttons with the thumbs. In a DS4 you need to spend processing time in your brain to figure how to position you finger or spend 10x times the amount of training needed for your muscle memory.
>>385102605
It's easier to tap something fast with your whole hand than with a single thumb.
Rolls are basically a dual-wielding tutorial but on the cabinet everyone does that shit with one hand.
Again, there is a reason the cabinet has a four-button layout.
There is a reason PS4 version has macros.
>>385102759
> it's easier because the game takes into account that square is next to triangle
But it's the same on a controller. You have 2 fucking thumbs. Just place your fucking thumb this way on your pad. You can easily hold 2 buttons with a single thumb unless they are on the opposite side of each other like X/Triangle.
>>385102857
>Rolls are basically a dual-wielding tutorial but on the cabinet everyone does that shit with one hand.
So it's easier on pad?
>>385102736
Good icon Miku, hit or miss music.Mostly miss
>>385102986
>You can easily hold 2 buttons
Hold three.
And then roll the fourth.
Or hold two and roll the other two like XOXOXOXO
>So it's easier on pad?
When you don't have to worry about holding down other buttons, allowing you to use both thumbs, yes.
>>385102986
Okay, so I hold down triangle and circle with the right thumb. How do I drum square and cross with the left thumb in the equivalent d-pad buttons fast enough?
Now the game is asking me to double triangle-cross and square-circle in alternating chain. How do I do that? Sure I could spend months training and I'll eventually be able to process the position of my fingers fast enough (let's say, triangle-down and square-right), but in the Arcade you see the doubles and you just naturally rest your palms open over the buttons and move them left and right.
>>385102736
I've listened to Apple.com 100 times already. I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pSSrmdEtw
>>385103282
>>385103373
You are still saying that it's harder to you to do with a single thumb what other people do on the arcade with their whole hand.
>but in the Arcade you see the doubles and you just naturally rest your palms open over the buttons and move them left and right.
Why don't you just do it? I literally want to see you beat a 10 star song on your first try in the arcade since it's natural to you apparently. Let me guess.
>>385103514
>beat a 10 star song on your first try
Now you are just desperate to prove your point. Doubles are natural to do in the Arcade, but obviously you need training to clear a spamming of 20 different doubles in 5 seconds, not matter the layout.
Now I want to ask you: have you ever tried the Arcade layout?
>>385103514
>You are still saying that it's harder to you to do with a single thumb what other people do on the arcade with their whole hand.
Yes.
Believe it or not, your thumb is not as nimble or capable as your entire hand.
You know your hand is a thumb and four fingers, right?
It isn't just thumbs vs hands. It's the entire control layout.
They didn't design the cabinet with four buttons just for the fuck of it, you fuck.
The game is DESIGNED assuming you use that layout and the techniques that layout employs.
>I literally want to see you beat a 10 star song on your first try
Are you fucking mental? That isn't at all what's being said.
>>385072745
Future tone is pretty much a best-of collection, but it's not on vita, so expect input lag.
>>385072745
>played literally every project diva game
>really wanted a project diva controller
>the most affordable option is still 200 euro + delivery, and it's for a mini controller
>tfw your favorite producers are too niche and/or non-family friendly to ever appear in a project diva / mirai game
>>385100537
This is a blue board
>>385105485
post upper body
>>385105124
Do one yourself. Or are you a pussy?
Why does Vocaloid fandom center around Miku and her derivatives? Are there any good Vocaloid personas that have nothing to do with her?
>>385106065
And how would I go about doing this? I doubt that separate components would be much cheaper.
>>385106215
>Are there any good Vocaloid personas that have nothing to do with her?
GUMI
That's about it
I really like Anon and Kanon, but nobody fucking uses them so whatever
>>385106335
IA has her own game, you know
>>385106215
Gumi is alright
Luka is love
IA is meh
>>385106215
Yukarifag would want a word with you.
>>385106238
For the same 200 € they asked, you can get a full size controller with 100mm generic buttons.
>>385106501
Well you know what, anon, I might just look into it. Any pointers on where to start?
>>385106469
>Yukari have nothing to do with Miku
rumours say otherwise though
>>385106541
This is the controller board you should use: http://www.brookaccessory.com/Fighting%20Board/list.html
Everything else can be bought in Aliexpress and your regular hardware store. If you want extra quality, buy Sanwa OBSA-100UMQ 100mm buttons. Everything else is up to you.
Currently there is a Rinfag building one in /jp/. You are not weaker than a Rinfag, are you?
>>385106913
>Rinfag
Absolutely disgusting. You have renewed my resolve.
>>385106456
Yeah and nobody really cares
>>385106456
Said game has two and a half good tracks, sadly
>>385107140
>IA has two and a half good songs
ftfy
>>385091612
Do it, don't even think about it just do it
>>385107410
How do you make half of a good song?
>>385108468
Take "Rin-chan now!" as an example. The lyrics are shitty and seizure-inducing but the base music (specially the piano) is God-tier.
>>385108830
I was amazed when I discovered you can see her feet.
>>385106461
>Luka is love
What the fuck
wha...?
>>385108981
What? She is.
>>385108981
You have to be over 18 to post here.
>>385108723
So it's a bad song... Wait, what's the difference between song and music?
>>385108830
Looks good on paper, bad as a module
>>385109340
The funny lyrics are the best part he's dumb.
>>385109340
As long as armpits and feet are visible, it's good for me.
>>385109025
I... Huh? What the fuck?
Are you even from this planet or dimension?
>been jerking off almost exclusively to ero-MMDs for the last couple moths, most of which were vocaloid related
s-sliperry slope, guys, amirite? haha
>>385109491
You're clearly from planet tumblr if you write posts like that.
>>385109491
hugh... I litteraly can't ammiright
So do you play these games with a controller or what?
>>385109783
I use the plastic guitar from rock band
>>385109830
Does that work well? If so I may have to try these games, I can't see how they are fun with just a controller.
>>385109783
I've actually hooked an USB cable directly into my forehead so I can play it by thinking about their panties.
>>385109859
Why wouldn't they be? a controller is a controller, you press various buttons in rhythm in increasingly fast and complex patterns. If guitar hero was your only "rhythm" game, and you equate rhythm games with gimmicky input devices, I feel sorry for you
>>385109982
Nah I just don't like playing rhythm games with a controller, it feels weird. It's like fighting faggots and their little devices. I feel sorry for you that you care so much.
>>385110163
I'm getting kinda curious. Which games have you played?
Do you know anyone in real life who understands or even shares your appreciation for virtual pop idols? I haven't met anyone who is into anime about cute girls, let alone music "sung" by a virtual cute girl, not that I'm trying very hard. I think the isolation is starting to get to me.
>>385110475
I know you and that's everything I need.
>>385110475
I tried showing migu to my younger chad brother and he called it gay shit for pedophiles. But no, I never met anyone who was into this kind of thing.
>>385110891
>gay shit for pedophiles
Your own fault for showing him a Len song.
>>385110475
A high school friend I never get to see around nowadays understands it. Chad ototo makes fun of it but his friends are into it.
>>385108830
what game is this from?
>>385111717
Megpoid 2: GUMI's revenge
>>385110475
I know one guy. He's as fucked up as I am.
A Rin is fine too.
>>385112117
At least it isn't a Luka.
>>385082660
The IA cover is reversible?
>>385112117
Yep.
>>385082660
You forgot to mention reaching the point where you want to fuck Miku dollfies. That looks like the end road for me.
>>385110475
Nah it's mostly self-contained, wearing Vocaloid t-shirts at work aside. But it's alright,I have 4chan.
>>385112890
>Miku dollfies.
>can only buy them from ebay
>close to 1g each
>>385112247
Bottom one is. The Best version doesn't have it.Codes are redeemed so don't bother
>>385112890
Sorry, but those things are creepy.
>>385113685
Thinking they are creepy is only the first step.
>>385113685
>The Best version doesn't have it.
aww shoot
>>385072745
First step is acceptance, that you are a weeb of highest order
>>385112117
hnnnnggggggggggg so fucking cute
>>385113952
Would have convinced me if that was a butt she was holding. Still creepy.
>>385114434
You'll fall upon my charm. Eventually.
>>385114420
Damn right.
>>385106461I like IA
Anyone got any vocaloid albums they particually like? I've got a good few I like, but I'd like to find some more.
>>385110475
I'm used to no one sharing my interests the vast majority of the time, especially with music, so it doesn't bother me.
>>385114603
Rin is for the people that thinks that less is more.
>>385115065
Rin holds a special place in my heartmostly because she reminds me of a simpler time and a certain girl i'll never forget. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEyrLKOK3v4 was very relatable for us...
I wish rin would finally follow through with her songs and off herself for good.
>>385116019You also meet a flat chested, short girl who broke your heart?Hold me.
>>385116461I was at fault, i was an idiot who left her for another girl only to be left alone too soon and since we're honest, the first girl was from a long distance relationship, you probably stopped reading already but this girl was so dear to me, and i just left her, i wish i wasnt such an idiot back then...
>>385098196
Miku is looking pretty /fa/ in that oversized MA-1 flight jacket, slim-fit jeans and high-top Supra shoes.
>>385117402
She is also very cool-cute.
>>385117621
That image is adorable and made me laugh.
>>385110234
Not much really, this is an autistic genre anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG2I17Zm8kI
What did they mean by this?
>>385120413
>GUMI being a slut and corrupting other innocent loids
Typical GUMI.
>>385120643
Its not GUMI's fault, she was programmed that way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UgFDf3IaAg
but someone should tell Rin she doesn't have a butt
>>385120764
>Rin doesn't have a butt
Those hips though.
>>385120764
>talking shit about Rin's perfect flatness
>>385121130
Here's something similar to use in the futurethat i made myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihnE_jEwfM
>>385120124
P O E T R Y
>>385121023
This is the ideal female body
You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
>>385115065
You mean pedophiles.
>>385124092
>ideal female body
>not pregnant
>>385124678
you stay the hell away from my daughteru. go impregnate Len instead
>>385124834
No!
This is the female body at peak performance.
>>385124834
I claimed her first though
>>385125378
she's a computer program. everyone can have their own Rin.
>>385125286 except this guy
>>385099021
> Cummies
The only option.
>>385125650
>everyone can have their own Rin.
What a slut.
But now I'm wondering, what it is more worthy: paying $150 for Miku or $200 for Rin AND Len? Sure, I'm not gay but, it's only $50 more...
>>385126842
make Len dress as a maid and clean for you
>>385126842
There is nothing better than fucking twins in the butt.
>>385127161
Looks like someone has read THAT doujin...
>>385127323
>those tags
>>385127323
That's just my fetish. I want to make Len moan like a girl in front of his precious sister.
>>385127323
https://exhentai.org/g/813318/55bcdda4e0/
this is proper usage of twins
>>385128679
>bestiality
Cute.
>That day in highschool where my friend called me over to show me Project Diva on his CFW PSP
Thanks for turning me into a Miku fag, bro.
This is a singing boy named Leonard Kagamine (kuh-GAW-mee-nay)
>>385130610
recommend me good Len songs that are not about his penis
>>385072745
>I have a PS4, PS3, and Vita.
>How do I into Miku games?
Guys, Guys, I have a door wide open in front of me. How do I walk in?
>>385130287
>The loids go to a school for retarded people
I knew it.
>>385091612
I did this.
No regrets.
>>385131183
You're on a board where people buy games out of interest and instead of playing them they make shitty "what am I in for?" threads best just see this as a Miku thread and ignore the retard OP who probably isn't even around anymore.
>>385130973
Fire Flower
RinRin Signal
Adolescence
Basically anything incest themed.
As someone who has spent over $2000 on Miku merchandise and has purchased all the games, I can't support Future Tone DX
Sega will never get another dollar from me.
>>385131649
literally the only good point in that video is that it's a bit disappointing that they're only adding one new song
I don't understand what he's trying to say with the rest of it
>>385131649
>>385131810
why can't people just write angry blogposts instead of recording themselves narrating it while playing video games?
I wasn't about to watch 20 minutes of some guy throwing a shitfit at a GOTY edition.
>>385112285
What is this girls name? She's cute
>>385132050
Because normies would rather watch than read.
>>385131459
I guess I made a bad analogy anyway.Like imagine if the door leads out. How can he walk in?
Anyway maybe he is asking from which game to start in which case I would say
Extend, F 2nd, or Future Tone, depending on platform of preference.
>>385072745
>tfw only have a 3DS and PSP for Miku games
Not owning a PS4 or Vita is pure suffering.
>>385132379
the series hasn't actually changed very much from extend
aside from star notes and double star notes, it's the same game underneath
>>385113685
What version is the bottom one? The limited edition?
>>385131183
There are many Miku games to choose from on those consoles, and some of them are made basically redundant by future releases. It would be easy for a newcomer to make a sub-optimal decision without prior knowledge, so it doesn't hurt to ask. How is this not obvious to you?
>>385132723
I just love making fun of people.
This is a singing boy named Leonard Kagamine (kuh-GAW-mee-nay)
Leonard (Lenny) does not look like a girl
this is his sister Lynne and she is clearly a girl
Sometimes Leonard lets his sister Lynne dress him up in girly clothes, but he doesn't like it one bit!
>>385132839
I'm not even gay and I would fuck a crossdressing Len
Jesus Christ I get so hard when I see Len crossdressing
>>385132723
I wouldn't agree. Extend is best to start for PSP but it doesn't make 2nd redundant, and F or F 2nd either is a good choice, apart from F being easier and better for a beginner but F 2nd having more of the classic song. Any game is a good start really apart from the very first one on PSP due to it being unrefined, or maybe X because X is so different, but you can't really make a bad choice and if you are worth your salt you will play all of them anyway.
>>385133012
its only good if Rin is forcing it on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ChXcJmXjBw
>>385132839
>Keeps letting her
>Doesn't like it one bit
Something doesn't add up here
>>385133773
Rin is a bully who gets picked on at school so she bullies her little brother
>>385133135
How do you understand any of this? Even if you're Japanese they speak so fast you cant even hear each individual letter.
>>385134329
be honest with yourself. how much of an english song can you actually understand, and then you can only hear it after you've been told what it is they are saying?
>>385134631
Yeah but that's usually only a few words in the occasional sentence. In that song every sentence except the end words sounded like a bunch of garbled beep sounds.
>>385134329
not all songs are like that, just the unique ones because good luck finding a singer who can sing this fast
>>385072745
Emulate 1, 2nd, Extend, get f and f2nd for PSV, X for PSV/PS4, Future Tone for PS4.
In that order.
Then fucking kill me.
Is Lilly in any of the games?
>>385136080
literally who?
>>385136080
Negative
Why Miku is so badass and serious?
>>385136331
Not Adult Rin Original Character.
Why won't Len stop singing about his dick already
>>385136331
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_(music_software)
>>385072745
I also want to get into Miku
>>385137685
He's at that age. Try being a teen boy surrounded by hot women who see you only as a friend
>>385137917Novagina
Is this real? Why can't I have one? >>385137628
>>385072745
I wanna fuck miku
>>385137685
I wish Gigantic OTN had a full version in X instead of Holy Lance Explosion Boy.
w-why do you have this?
is this supposed to be me??
>>385138492
No, loli miku is the most erotic miku.
>>385138097
It's copy-pasta, I read it years ago, her being his girlfriend now is new though.
>>385138692
I've read it too and I remember he was trying to get close to her.
>few years pass and he actually did it
Can I believe it's him?
>>385091612
i was gonna do it just for miku and rock band 4, which isn't even worth it even for all the good dlc they just made exclusively for it because they removed pro mode and that's terrible.
>>385132640
Nah, just a different cover for those that got the original run, comes with exclusive DLC songs afaik. Limited Edition has a different cover from those two along with the DLC and the goodies.
>>385110475
my parents think im a creep as well as everyone i blare vocaloid at in traffic most likely
>>385140034
I've played the DLC songs, how were they included if they weren't out yet? Digital download? In what way were they exclusive as in not sold separately? I've played 18 of the 20 DLC songs. They were really good.
>>385140975
not him but I think they were just one song from the 3 different packs or something
>>385140975
Pre-order DLC according to this sheet. I don't see it in the Japanese PSN.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-jeBZr2EI3Uvi03Ws2qZCAZCLudN9Fl-WUUhODQhimQ/
Miku's motion data is mocapped and rigged by old men for money!
>>385141558
Must be two songs then, because I know there were 20 songs of which I played 18 and the base game is 60 I saw 82 songs there total.
>>385141941
gonna have to doubt the mocapping part
old people don't move like that
>>385143756
I hate to sound like one of those copypasted youtube comments, but what am i witnessing exactly? Why is miku a spaceship?
>>385144371
https://youtu.be/0u_AQGt6dnE
>>385073289
>His warnings remained unheeded
>>385073289
why does this always happen?
>>385146520
Because theres shitloads of vocaloid songs/media, even if you don't like the popular songs you are pretty much guaranteed to find something you like about them and starts down the slope.
>>385132504
But these
>>385099231
>>385101302
Look like they have more multitasking. Something they lacked in the first place.
>>385112117
A Rin is superior
A len is just as good
A miku is fine too
A gumi has some uses, such as last minute birthday gift