What do you guys think nintendo could do to shake up the zelda

>>385042294
Have a villain that isn't Ganon

Guns

>>385042294

BotW was enough of a shake up. Just keep everything BotW did and then add in more stuff from the past Zelda games. Full temples, more towns, new locations, etc.

Go back to its roots rather than break tradition
though botw brought back non-linearity which was fresh but the world was empty which didn't bring about a need for exploration outside of finding shrines and not much else

Change of setting. Hyrule's been in the middle ages way too fucking long

>>385042294
Play as Zelda and use game play incorporating her Sheik side and mage side

>>385043667
What would modern hyrule look like?

>>385042294
Do the time loop like majora's mask, but make it longer, or the world bigger, or something.
I just want more groundhog day in games.

>>385043421
I wonder what benefits that outfit would provide?

>>385044356
It's up to Nintendo. Easiest thing to guess is that they would go with the FF7 Midgar aesthetic

>>385044839
My dick

Ganondorf as an ally or playable

>>385046023
That would be awesome

>>385042294
It'd be cool to see the cancelled wind waker 2

>>385047446

Kind of already think BotW as being that. The Hyrule we were suppose to get at the bottom of the ocean. Sadly, Phantom Hourglass is the canon Wind Waker sequel.

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Playable Zelda with a gun

>>385048301
It was for the best. Unflooding Hyrule would have badly cheapened the ending

LTTP modern HD remake

>>385043421
thats fucking gay
who the fuck wears pink gloves?

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>>385042294
Make Vaati relevant

>>385049730

So basically Link Between Worlds.

>>385050141
What would Crapcom do if they made another Zelda?

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>>385049773
Gay twinks like Link.

>>385050393
He should put them back on.

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>>385042436
>Ghirahim

I know you fags hate SS, but can we agree he was a damn flashy villain.

Last battle, Link shows up to Demise ritual: "Show a human a little mercy, and next think you know, he think himself your equal!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHtO9q7s66o&index=6

>>385051461

Skyward Sword is not what Zelda should be. Too many cutscenes and linear areas. But it was better than the half dozen games that came before it.

>>385050348
>FanFiction-tier story that isn't even ironically enjoyable
>Every character looks like a melted wax figurine
>Half the map, including to the final dungeon, is locked behind on the disc DLC

>>385051580
>But it was better than the half dozen games that came before it.

It's by far the worst Zelda.

>>385051461
>Last battle, Link shows up to Demise ritual: "Show a human a little mercy, and next think you know, he think himself your equal!"
>"I was only pretending to be retarded"- the villain

>>385051692

>It's by far the worst Zelda.
>CDi Zeldas
>Twilight Princess
>Phantom Hourglass

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Honestly, we need an 18+ Zelda game. IMAGINE THE POTENTIAL. With Nintendo's creativity, HOLY FUCK, the waifu's...the story, the emotion...

Come on, you know it...That's where the future of the Zelda franchise lies. A true 18+ story with blood, and true plot. 15+ at least. Twilight Princess was 12+ in europe.


Come on Nintendo, you had Bayonetta as an exclusive on your console. You've already had the most risque dirtiest game which is like that constantly. A 18+ zelda would be a GODSEND.

Anyway, of course I know itll never happen.

>>385051837
You know those don't count
TP is great
I skipped PH but really enjoyed ST.

>>385049584
but this is what smash needs

>>385051960
Hyrule Warriors made me hate Hackurai so much.

>>385051692
Maybe, but it's still a great game. Just shows how good the series is

>>385051931
>18+ Zelda game
no

>>385052024
Nintendo just needs to stop forcing the series on him. No passion leads too many Fire Emblem characters and Dark Pit.

>>385052190
>A Witcher Zelda game

Fuck no, I agree with the other anon.

>>385042294
make a game that isn't mediocre

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>>385051938

>its the worst zelda!
>except all the games that are worse than it because they don't count

>>385052406
Bringing up the CD-i games screams that you can't defend it against proper Zelda titles.

>>385052406
>best waifu of SS

Orielle's a bitch

>>385052574

Good thing I named other games. You just don't agree with my view on Twilight Princess. And you admitted to not even playing PH so you can't claim SS is the worst game in the series. You'd have to play all of them to know.

>>385052772
Considering how large the gap in quality is between ST and SS is and how similar PH and ST supposedly are, I find it hard to believe the quality would dip that much.

TP ont the other has some of the absolute best dungeons, items, and atmosphere in the series. SS is not in the same league.

>>385042294
why does he have pokeballs

Make it RPG
Make Ganon MC, with the quest to defeat Link
Make it romance VNeroge with
atleast two gay routes.

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>>385054431
>atleast two gay routes
Only gay routes. Link is a homo, period. Heroes don't waste time with the inferior sex.

>>385053215
I disagree. TP was cool as fuck, and I'd say it's still better than SS. But SS is pretty much in the same league, but a different thing.

SS had excellent fuckin dungeons.
TP was like a STEROID OoT. It focused on more Items, more rooms, more lore. It was a traditional zelda players wetdream.

SS was a focus more on less items, more resourcefulness and land exploring. Both excellent

>>385042294
how come this girl is dressed like a man

>>385054839
>like a man

>>385053215

>Considering how large the gap in quality is between ST and SS is
Your opinion. One the vast majority of people don't share. Spirit Tracks often comes up near or at the top for the worst Zelda. Even surpassing Phantom Hourglass (though I think PH is worse).

>TP ont the other has some of the absolute best dungeons
God no. They're some of the longest and most boring in the series. And the Ice Mansion is the worst one in the whole series. Literally a giant circle just to unlock one door, with two shitty sliding block puzzles in between. It's worse than a Skyrim dungeon. And the Water Temple is also one of the worst in the series.

Skyward Sword has a lot of problems. But its dungeons are one of its high points.

>items
You mean the game where every item except the ball and chain become obsolete outside of the dungeon you find them in? And then the ball and chain is so broken you use it instead of the master sword.

Skyward Sword utilized its items way better. The items in TP had tons of promise and could be considered 'better' for what they could have done. But they didn't utilize them. Which makes them poor items.

Even then, the items in Skyward Sword were pretty good except the whip.

>and atmosphere in the series.
Ah yes, it always comes back to the 'atmosphere' argument when talking about Twilight Princess. I'd say this is the real root of the issue. You think fuzzy brown and grey is better than bright and clear designs. But I sure don't.

>>385042294
Have a black guy as the main character because diversity lmao!

>>385042294
make it like shadow of the colossal and monster hunter plus add city building elements like dark cloud

>>385055112
Lol nintendo would never do that. Even if we had a black link, or we had a gerudo link, they'd make him mostly ambiguous looking like they do now.

>>385054738

Ocarina of Time is my favorite Zelda and I hate Twilight Princess. Mostly because they advertised it as the game to surpass Ocarina of Time. Yet when I played it, the game basically removed everything good Ocarina of Time did. And even when it tried to have a direct nod to Ocarina, it was something shitty like you howling out old Ocarina songs as a wolf (holy shit how dumb) or Evangelion level story cutscenes. Or crappy bug collecting to be some weak correlation to Skultullas. Or the horrible water temple. Or reusing character archtypes.

About the only thing TP had was fishing.

>>385055112

I think you mean black woman lesbian who is Muslim.

>>385055392
>he game basically removed everything good Ocarina of Time did

like what?

>>385054982
just cause she's flat chested doesn't mean she's not a cute girl

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>>385052024
>>385052265
>Thinking the Smash series would be improved by removing the mind behind it because you're upset the character you invested way too much emotion into didn't get into the game
The last Smash with Sakurai is the last Smash Bros for all intents and purposes.

>>385052406
A bad spinoff isn't nearly as egregious as a bad maingame.

Skyward Sword is the only outright bad main game. WW and TP weren't great either but at least they were both just predictable and boring and not outright terrible.

>>385056235
Holy shit, the logic here.

Okay, I gotta ask, how was SS a bad game and how was WW a good game?

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>>385054650
>Link

>>385056386
Motion controls.

WW wasn't good. It was a boring OOT retread. But at least it managed to do that, unlike SS which couldn't handle basic controls.

>>385055646

-Link bashes enemies as if he's wielding a club instead of slashing and stabbing like a sword should
-Despite wielding his sword like a club, it takes more hits to kill things than in Ocarina of Time. This doesn't make combat harder, just slower and more repetitive.
-Dungeons go on forever and still have less variety than Ocarina of Time. Dungeons have the same design problems of Wind Waker. Often they are just large layers stacked one on top of the other or a long linear hallway. And the goal is to just find the key or switch to open a door, rarely any really interesting puzzle or combat.
-If they were going to have you sing Ocarina songs as a wolf, just have Link use the actual Ocarina.
-The wolf mechanic doesn't help the game in any way, it just forces you to find a way to turn back into a human. In other words, it's time filler. And why are you turning into a wolf when this game is trying to 'revive the feeling of Ocarina of Time'?
-They tried to copy the "atmosphere" of Ocarina of Time and failed miserably. Despite having better hardware, they just slapped a bunch of brown and grey textures into a game with sporadic lighting. It didn't resemble Ocarina of Time at all. It resembled a muddy version of Final Fantasy XII or Shadows of the Colossus.
-Ocarina of Time was able to have cutscenes that were impacting both in their story material and their visual direction. The cutscenes in Twilight Princess were just weird, not feeling like Ocarina or a Zelda game at all. And the story had no impact because the characters were so forgettable. Not to mention the few times you think a character died or was in trouble, they just pull a 'plot twist' later on showing that Zelda is alive and the little kid in Kakarako didn't die. It's like a bad Final Fantasy game.
-Ocarina of Time didn't make you do two shitty memory puzzles and an annoying cutscene ridden Lost Woods to get the master sword.

>>385052024
Why? All Hyrule Warriors showed me is it's ok when anyone that isn't Sakurai makes up movesets.

>>385042294
Nothing

>>385056235
>>385056904

Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are mainline Zelda games. They (and Twilight Princess) are still worse than Skyward Sword. Skyward Sword actually improved many of the flaws Twilight Princess had. But you won't admit that because 'muh motion controls'. Which oops, Twilight Princess also had.

>>385042294
Direct sequel to BotW. Have it take place deep underground. The theme of the game is light/dark, most of the "world" is dark as fuck and you have to use different light sources to get around. Basically it's taking the gimmick of the first part of BotW's lizard dungeon and massively expanding on it. All of the races are new, and the main race you're interacting with are Sheikah-like humanoids that evolved to thrive in the dark. The goal of the game is to traverse the world and find eight different dungeons, in order to unlock a way to escape back to the surface.

>>385057312
>Defends Skywaggle Sword
>Shits on based Spirit Tracks
Nigga fuck you and your profoundly bad taste. Spirit Tracks is one of the better Zelda games, it's sure as hell beat SS, TP, and WW.

>>385057482
Having the entire game underground seems like a bad idea to me, it'd mean half the features from BotW wouldn't work right and they'd likely have to retool the engine.

>>385057312
>>385057525
They stopped making Zelda games when Aonuma got in charge. Breath of the Wild is the first Zelda game we've had in 20 years.

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>>385042294
Put proper dungeons back in holy fuck

An actual story and character development would be nice too

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>>385057482
>A sequel to BOTW where the world is just a series of hallways

>>385057739
Spirit Tracks, ALBW, and the four swords stuff was all worthwhile. But I mostly agree. BOTW really highlights just how ridiculous having 3 repeats of OOT directly proceeding it and MM starting on the next console and continuing all the goddamn way until the WiiU

>>385057739
Aonuma's now been involved in the majority of Zelda games and only a few have been duds.

>>385056904
>It was a boring OOT retread.

I noticed that saying this only became popular when MM started getting called out for rehashing most of its assets.

>>385056981
>-Link bashes enemies as if he's wielding a club instead of slashing and stabbing like a sword should
Ghirahim fight, Scorpion fight, The ancient collusus, Stalfos, Stalbeam
>-Despite wielding his sword like a club, it takes more hits to kill things than in Ocarina of Time. This doesn't make combat harder, just slower and more repetitive.
Um no, keese, blob, bokoblins all take about 1 or 2 hits. Deku baba, which is a one hit time saver in OoT, became a actual stubborn puzzle, you had to slice vertically, and you'd be rewarded with a one hit kill. Repetitive? SS had cool enemy placement. Bokoblins had keys which you had to get with a beetle or whip, then later you'd only see a few stalfos which were harder. Thats your opinion, but largely disagreed with.
>-Dungeons go on forever and still have less variety than Ocarina of Time. Dungeons have the same design problems of Wind Waker. Often they are just large layers stacked one on top of the other or a long linear hallway. And the goal is to just find the key or switch to open a door, rarely any really interesting puzzle or combat.
Nope. First dungeon, taught beetle mechanics, as you were locked within the dome, and had to fly to discover areas. Fuck no,they werent linear. There were rooms that changed, remember the ancient cistern. You had to find a lever to lift the buddha head, because that was the only way you'd enter upwards section later, so you finally figured it out, and found a whole section below full of zombies and beetle puzzles. And later dungeons like the triforce goddes dungeon you could start anywhere
>-If they were going to have you sing Ocarina songs as a wolf, just have Link use the actual Ocarina.

oh shit my bad, you were talking about TP, I thought you were another anon who replied

>>385058124
Actually it mostly came about when WW's fanboys try and claim it's the only "original" Zelda.

>>385057672
It's more akin to Journey to the Centre of the Earth where there's life and shit everywhere. It doesn't have to make real-world sense, it's magical Hyrulean stuff. I'm pretty sure all of BotW's physics would still work.

>>385057773
It wouldn't be hallways (mostly), it would be massive. There'd be entire civilizations living under there. It all connects to the idea that Hyrule's primal evil came from underground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv56IuztUR4

BotW's shrines are also deep underground somewhere as well.

>>385057918
You say that as if OoT wasn't a 3D retread of LttP. Games in the same series are going to be similar.

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>>385058303

>oh shit my bad, you were talking about TP
Why did you submit the post then?

>>385042440
Give you a what?

>>385058347
MM fans are more likely to say that.

>>385058581
It became almost satire, because with SS anon is clearly wrong, but with TP now I look like a retard.

>>385058530
How would climbing work in an underground area? Would you slip off at an overhand or be able to climb upside-down?
Also, what about wind simulation underground, would there just not be any wind?

>>385057525
The real kick in the teeth is that SS would have been one of the best in the series if it wasn't for those shit controls.

>>385058621
A boyfriend.

>>385059081
>SS now has BOTW controls

Is it the best now?

>>385057765
>An actual story and character development would be nice too

I think something like BotW is the best we can expect now. I don't know why they made Ganondorf so good in Wind Waker and then shat on him more and more in each subsequent game.

>>385058753
I guess my idea is more like an "underworld". Meaning there's a large amount of empty space. It's almost like Hyrule itself except it's entirely covered by layers of rock, like a dome. It's its own world that was hidden way deep beneath Hyrule. I think in that situation, wind would work, maybe have some excuse about underground vents. Being able to climb upside-down would be cool in any context.

>>385059081
Still wouldn't have fixed the three fights each with gay sword and sleeping bag, the rest of the bosses all being HIT THE EYEBALL, the ugly monster design, the ugly character designs, the linearity, Fi, dousing, the sky being a total waste...

>>385059192
What's so great about those?

>>385059257
>Ganondorf
>good in Wind Waker

Muh Windfags please go, adults are talking.

>>385042294
Ditch link, Zelda and gandolf as the main characters. It's getting fucking old and autistic to have the same story over so many games. Same goes for those boring as fuck mario games. Nintendo is fucking boring and gay.

>>385059391
It was more than just that bit of dialogue, but that he felt much more controlled and dignified.

I didn't hate him in TP although the final battle with Link felt forced, but then SS took a shit all over him with Demise and now in BotW he's nothing but a mindless force of pure evil. It's a clear decline in effort with his character.

>>385059225
Hardly. The game isn't designed around doing anything with those controls

>>385057312
SS was the waorst mainline because how bad the motion controls were, and I mean just swinging the sword. I don't know how many times I would be stabbing with the Wiimote and link would just be a cunt and swing left or right.
>TP also had motion controls
I played it on GameCube so suck my dick.

>>385042294
Have a story where Link, Zelda, and Gannon realize how shitty it is that they're all pre-destined characters in a never-ending play and try to fight against it so they can be free to choose their own paths.

Also I want to colonize a tribal link.

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>>385042294
That would imply that there's a need to change anything in order to replenish popularity / sales. Nah, the shit they do works every time with a slight change of pace & environment. Plus western fags eat up the feminine sexualization of male characters.

>>385059391
He's not wrong though. In ww ganon talks about how he was born in the desert with only death coming with each storm, while all these hylians sat there all peaceful like and watched them die.
Every time after he's there to be there.

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JUST MAKE FUN GAME WITH ALL 3D LINK CROSSOVER.
AND JUST ADD SOME FUNNY/CUTE CUTSCEENS/BANTER IN THIS.
JESUS IT'S SUCH A FUCKING NOBRAINER

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>>385059481
>gandolf

>>385059270
it'd make more sense if the next game was set in termina than this wacko idea

>>385060916
WW was the closest Nintendo will ever get to doing that.

Apparently Japan loves stories about reincarnation, fate, and chosen ones.

>>385060764

>the whole game is the absolute worst since I sucked at motion controls
Here's a hot tip. Press down on the wiimote.

>>385042294
Nintendo needs to make a Zelda RPG.

>>385061253
I don't want them to just rehash the same old settings and plots.

>>385061372
>it worked for me xd
Not an argument
And I knew about that you dumb piece of shit. I had to do it all game where as Every other game didn't have this function cause it didn't need it.

>>385061157
Two sentences at the ending.

Wow.

>>385061494
we barely saw any of Termina, though, only a small portion of it was seen in MM and it's not appeared in a zelda game since.

>>385061284
I guess, just my interesting idea.

Still want to colonize tribal link.

>>385061587
Yeah and those made him that much better of a character. Having some development is better than none. Ganon has never been a good villain, he just is one and a slightly better one in ww.

>>385061749
They made him worse of a character because it was completely at odds with everything displayed prior. All it showed at best was he can shed crocodile tears in front of deformed children.

>>385061749
But up until WW he was becoming a better villain in each game he showed up in. Then they start making him worse and worse as if they're allergic to good writing. It makes no fucking sense. They didn't do this shit to Bowser.

>>385061670
The parts we see in MM are Termina though, Clock Town and its surroundings are what make Termina Termina. Without them you just have Hyrule but with a bleak atmosphere, and that could be done better with a fresh setting. If they brought Termina back it would just be an endless stream of "REMEMBER MAJORA'S MASK?" references. And yes I realize that applies all too well to Hyrule, new settings are supposed to get away from that.

>>385061537

>Not an argument
You know what else is not an argument? "Skyward Sword is the worst Zelda game ever because I hate motion controls!"

Going by that logic, I could say Phantom Hourglass is the worst Zelda game because the touch controls were wonky. Which they were. But PH has many additional problems beyond just the controls.

>>385061854 #
>can shed crocodile tears in front of deformed children

The proof that scene was good writing is the fact that, to this day, the majority of the Zelda fanbase still doesn't understand it.

Protip: These are the same people who think King Daphnes was talking about the name of Hyrule in his speech after the final battle.

>>385062057
no, we see a small part of Termina. Termina is meant to be Hyrule in a parallel universe. Since BotW showed us a look at the entirety of Hyrule Kingdom, it makes sense if Breath of the Majora gives us a look at Termina Kingdom.

>>385061749
Honestly if the "development" applied to the whole game you'd have a point, but it only comes into play right at the end of the game. Before that he's basically the same old Ganon, hell if anything he has less going on than OoT Ganondorf.

Dark Souls style multiplayer

>>385061963
>ganon good in OOT
Right because a pure evil character is so well written

>>385062337
He's more subdued in WW. In OoT he wrecked everything in his way. In WW he limits his violence to only where it's necessary.

>>385062226
You know what's not an argument?
Everything you just said. Thanks for being retarded

>>385062304
Termina doesn't have a monopoly on parallel universes though, LttP/ALBW's Dark World is also a parallel universe. I just don't see why it needs to be called "Termina" when it wouldn't have anything that made up Termina besides potentially some shoehorned MM references.

>>385062448
You can't fucking read. I said he was better in each game than the one before it. Before OoT he was just an evil pig. OoT gave him a human form and a clear origin story.

>>385062541
Dark World is almost a direct mirror of Hyrule Kingdom, though; Termina on the other hand is an entirely different kingdom. Also, do you feel the same about Hyrule Kindom in BotW then?

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>>385062539

>shit, I got argued into a corner
>we'll you just a retard!
>heh, I sure told him

>>385062337
>>385061854
He had literally no development in any other game, this was the only one where he actually showed that he cared about his people not just about "power". He was never a great villain and never will be if things continue this way. He is however slightly better in ww.

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>>385042294
Remake these

>>385062648
>Let me post meme face
>lmao xd I win

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Make the next Zelda like BoTW, but get this:
It has shit to do outside of 5x5 sized Shrines and 4 "Dungeons" that take two minutes to complete.

And make Link a girl with wide hips and a nice ass so I can play dress-up.

>>385062604
Having an origin but no motive isn't character development. It just tells you his past.

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>>385062785
>Caring about arguments over the internet
>Not already ascending to golden gay status
>Possessing a mindset with this level of dross.

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>>385042294
Gay romance with beastfolk.

Make Link a girl or a grizzled old man, but that'll never happen because they care so much about the husbando audience.

They could let Zelda be an actually capable character and not some dumb moeblob. And let her be hot. Zelda hasn't been hot since TP, not counting HW.

Also no Ganondorf of course, though that isn't totally new.

And maybe actually expand on the universe in a meaningful way. Like what are the godesses doing up there? Whats up with the majora stuff? That kind of thing.

>>385062643
>Also, do you feel the same about Hyrule Kindom in BotW then?

I do think BotW's setting could have used a bit more oomph. There's potential here and there but a lot of it is riding off the back of previous installments. All the races are from previous games, lots of locations are references, it has the same Link/Zelda/Ganon dynamic, the champions are essentially the sages, etc. That's part of the reason why I'm not in favor of bringing Termina back, Nintendo has only become more and more reference-heavy and doesn't value good world-building enough.

>>385042294
Star Zelda and save Link.
I think it would sell well.

>>385062885
You still can't read. The point is that each game until Wind Waker added a new element to his character, gradually improving it. Then the series made the bizarre decision to not only stop doing this, but to deliberately regress his character development. I find this to be a terrible shame and one that has greatly harmed the series.

>>385062943
>thinking I care
I fuck your mum

>>385059307
What isn't?

>>385063192
Only if Tetra is the Zelda they use. Any others would feel out of character.

>>385063267
A lot of things.

>>385063195
TP did actually, but it was more subtle than WW. Granted Zant was more the main antagonist than Ganondorf.

>>385063375
Do tell.

>>385063049

>Make Link a grizzled old man
While it would never work because the fangirls would literally destroy Nintendo, making Link an old hero would be pretty good. The whole game could be about him being well past his prime and barely able to use a sword. So he has to use his head to avoid enemies and overcome obstacles. Then later in the game, he finds a mechanic where he can return back to his younger self.

Then there could be a whole sad love story about how the Zelda equivalent of that world is still a teenage girl, but Link can never be with her because he's really a 70 year old man.

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>>385063198
>I fuck your mum
THAT'S IT

>>385063405
I didn't hate him in TP, but I failed to see anything new

My complaints are mainly against BotW and SS.

>>385063409
You first.

Give BotW the MM treatment

Compact the world a little bit, set in a land outside of hyrule (Link and Zelda go on a new adventure a few years later, say), touch up some of the mechanics and put in some full blown dungeons.

Easy solution.

>>385063192

It wouldn't sell well at all. All the girls (which is a significant amount of the Zelda fanbase) play Zelda to see an elf in tights (or shirtless). And a good number of pre teen boys would throw a fit about playing a girl.

But probably would sell record numbers with males between the age of 14 and 45.

>>385063082
I get what you mean, although they did tease bits of worldbuilding within the ruins, particularly Zelda's diary in Hyrule Castle and the journals in the Ancient Tech Labs.

>>385063569
But I asked you.

>>385062676
Wind Waker didn't "show" anything.

You want a game that shows how much Ganondorf "cares" about the Gerudo?

Play OoT.

>>385063610
Easiest solution is to axe the DOGSHIT VOICE ACTING meme, and just let you pick male or female.

Without having to record two voice lines per gender you can just have it swap the 'he' and 'him' with 'she' and 'her'

>>385063776
And I asked you first.

>>385063520
Not in a direct manner, but it essentially showed a scenario where he was much closer to being Ganon. Neverminding the parallels with Link, note how in WW he never turns into Ganon and just uses a form of it as a puppet vs how he transforms into an even more beastial form in TP.

If WW Ganondorf had years to reflect on his actions and his defeat and become more introspective, TP Ganondorf never really had a chance and was left with nothing but anger and hate.

>>385063893

I want them to remove voice acting too. But that wouldn't fix this problem.

>>385063992
Uh well, a boyfriend would hold me and keep me warm and stuff! I'm really cold right now!

>>385064135
You can do that with dogs and blankets though.

>>385063597
Like I said in a previous post, they could literally set the game in Termina since we know so little about that place and MM barely seemed to scratch the surface of it.

>>385064207
So you're saying I should make a dog my boyfriend?

>>385064335
I never said that, I'm just saying you can get warm with pets and blankets.

>>385064207
Dogs and blankets don't have soft wet kissable lips and cute uncut penises tho

>>385064046
But I was still bothered by how the conflict with him and Link felt like an afterthought. In the leadup to the battle he only ever speaks to Midna

>>385063795
That's not what Wind Waker's ending was about, retard

>>385064386
You didn't answer my question. Should I make a dog my boyfriend?

>>385054738
>SS had excellent fuckin dungeons
Can someone explain this meme for me? All the dungeons that weren't in the Lanayru province were fucking terrible.

>>385064515
You asked if I was implying that you should make your dog your boyfriend, I answered that by saying that wasn't what I said or meant.

Why would you do that?

>>385064604
Knots.

>>385064652
You can just buy a dildo with a knot.

>>385064585

It's subjective. But I thought the magma dungeon, lanaryu dungeon and the final dungeon were some of the better ones in the series. The final dungeon actually did one of my most hated concepts (sliding block puzzles) and somehow got me to enjoy it. Probably because the entire dungeon was a sliding block instead of just one annoying room in the middle of it.

>>385063795
OoT didn't "show" anything.

You want a game that shows how much Ganondorf "cares" about the Gerudo?

Play Wind waker

>>385064706
I have one, that doesn't mean it's as good as the real thing. Normal dildos aren't as good as normal dicks, either.

>>385064451
To be fair, in that timeline I don't think he ever even met Link. And again, Zant was the main antagonist for the majority of the game.

>>385064892
There aren't any Gerudo in Wind Waker.

Ganondorf confirmed for genociding his entire race out of hatred.

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>>385063470

>>385064893
Nothing I can do about that.

>>385065013
So I'm getting a dog for a boyfriend then, it's settled.

>>385042294
make zelda a girl

>>385065002
That's what you want to believe

>>385065002
Gerudo appear in the DS games.

>>385065070
Your life, your choice.

>>385065126
Thank you for your support, Anon.

>>385065070
Which states is that even legal in?

>>385065123
PH/ST? No they don't.

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>>385064421

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Make Tingle Great Again

>>385065123
>hates his race so much he forces them to live in the shitty touch screen games

>>385065229
Jolene in PH and the girl who runs the battle gauntlet minigame in ST.

>>385065198
No idea.

>>385065263
Makes sense considering what he did to the Gorons.

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I dig it.

>>385065196
Was it support?

>>385065497
I'd say so.

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>>385065308
I thought Majora's Mask was the only Zelda game with aliens in it.

>>385065560
What makes you say so.

>>385065672
You've help me find my one true love.

>>385065716
Within such a short span of time, it's probably just infatuation.

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>>385042294
Bring back Midna

>>385063049
NO. Link will be a sexy twink fuck boi forever

>>385065782
Nuh-uh, it's true love, you'd have to see it to believe it.

>>385065308
They aren't Gerudo, they're just vaguely brown. And to anon's original point, even if they were Gerudo, they've basically been reduced down to nothing, so it might as well be called genocide.

>>385065860
What would I even be looking at.

>>385064907
It made sense in the context of TP, but for a fan who's followed the who series it was jarring to see Ganondorf so disinterested in the hero.

>>385065928
The face of a feminine boy filled with a dog knot, I suppose.

>banana boi wants to take the knot
knot suprised desu

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>>385065926
The Gods only warned a chosen few of the oncoming flood so that they may escape, and as we know the Gods hated the Gerudo

>>385066084
What if I don't perceive love like that.

>>385065859
I just wish they'd let Zelda be sexy too. After two main games of a plain jane who gets by on being generic waifubait I want something different.

>>385066297
Your loss, I guess.
>>385066106
Stop calling me that.

>>385066402
What would I be losing out on.

>>385066383
SS was that, but BotW is probably the best Zelda's ever been as a character.

>>385066490
I dunno, I haven't been thinking this conversation through much.

>>385066402
what do you want to be called then? knot boy?

>>385066594
This thread in general really doesn't have very much substance in it.

>>385066516
Fuck no she isn't. She isn't as bad as SS Zelda but she still generally relies on common waifubait tactics and is otherwise very plain.

>>385066597
I dunno, I haven't thought that out either.
>>385066653
I haven't been looking at it much, I spent the last hour or hour and a half or so raiding.

>>385066805
Well okay.

>>385066801
She has actual flaws and character development unlike in SS and most other games.

>>385066981
Her 'character development' consists of disliking Link for 5 minutes before deciding she adores him when he saves her. Thats it.

And her 'flaws' are token endearing shit like how she isn't very capable and always needs you to help her. If she were more competent she wouldn't be as endearing to waifufags.

>>385066805
>raiding
do you raid with a toy in your butt?

>>385067472
No, I like to be able to focus.

>>385067527
what about dungeons while you are knotted?
or farm nights?

>>385067337
Her relationship with Link is barely a factor.

It's about her feelings of self-worth and the first time we've seen Zelda struggle with her destiny. Even the pirate Zelda in WW was like "Okay, guess I'm a princess now."

>>385067651
No.

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Make Link even girlier

>>385067798
no fun
go put a remote controlled plug in and let your raid leader control it

>>385068080
No stop, Link is a boy

>>385068094
No one in my raid group needs to know that I'm such a fag.

>>385068080
links meant to be a boy not a girl though!

>>385067693
Pretty sure ST Zelda did that, but better. Not that it does anything that I didn't already address.

Also the implication that you are one of those who thinks that Tetra's personality somehow totally changed when she went Zelda mode doesn't speak well of you.

>>385068161
just come out to them i'm sure someone else in your raid is gay too

>>385068161
>Not utilizing your homosexuality in order to garnish attention
Why are you even here.

>>385068262
Even if they are, that doesn't mean anything.
>>385068328
I try to keep my gay to myself when I'm not shitposting here.

>>385068513
That's good.

>>385068513
Yeah in my personal life I don't ever bring up it, I'm surrounded by religious nutjobs, and even the ones that are religious find the subject uncomfortable.

>>385068513
all gays are sluts
i'm sure they would like to play with you

>>385042294
Make Zelda the villian

>>385068970
They do play with me! Every night, during raid time! We all give it our best!

>>385068807
*aren't religious

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>>385068970
>all gays are sluts

>>385069093
cause there is no. I have headache or not right now. Men are always down to fuck

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>>385042440
>>385065716
you guys are autistic.

I like dick too but holy shit

>>385069013
good!
now let them play with your butt

>>385069240
I am often not and often have actual headaches that make me not want to.

D-do women not actually have headaches when they say this?

>>385069240
People often serve as both mirrors and windows. Speak without thinking and you'll probably end up being the former.

>>385069326
You really have to consider that each of those posts took the both of us around 5-7 seconds to write and had little to no thought put into them.

>>385069326
>he makes his 4chan look like reddit
l m a o

>>385068204
>>385068204
>Pretty sure ST Zelda did that, but better

She was cute but never faced real conflict.

>Also the implication that you are one of those who thinks that Tetra's personality somehow totally changed when she went Zelda mode doesn't speak well of you.

I'd agree if that were the implication, but it isn't. The implication is that that Tetra never struggles to adapt to her role as Zelda. She goes from a pirate to the wielder of the Triforce of Wisdom with no visible difficulty. BotW Zelda feels unworthy of her position

>>385069361
Why would I do that?
>>385069326
>>385069449
He's right, it's not like we're having deep in depth discussions.

>>385069524
>Why would I do that?
cause it feels good and its fun?

>>385069653
I'd rather get to know someone before I let them stick anything in my butt.

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>>385069468
>oh no he uses the native extension features! he must be from leddit xDDD
set your house on fire and take a nap you fucking retard

>>385069737
just stick the thing in your butt and let them control the vibrations
super fun

>>385069737
>>385069859
Why not hook it up and let randoms on the internet control it?

>>385061172
Consider suicide.

>>385069859
That kind of thing sounds expensive to begin with, even ignoring what I just said.
>>385069905
That one sounds maybe okay.

>>385069905
that's what i meant!
you can get all sorts of cool online controlled toys now
you can even get fucking machines

>>385070040
Any links? Sounds cool

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>>385069421
>D-do women not actually have headaches when they say this?
The fact that it's even a common thing should go to show that it's just a person stating they're not in the mood. People just mask it as an outside factor so you don't feel bad, it means they care but still are not in the mood none the less. Ask them if something's wrong if you ever actually get that response.

>>385070091
Yeah here are some>>385061172

>>385069516
ST Zelda starts out expecting Link to do everything but becomes more competent and actively involved through the game.

As for Tetra, there's no reason to because in WW her being Zelda doesn't mean anything beyond her having the ToW. In her case it's more her having a bit of an ego and having to let go of that. It's not much but it doesn't exist around making her an endearing waifu.

>>385070091
https://www.lovense.com/bluetooth-remote-control-vibrator
most of the popular toys i have seen operate the same way

>>385070364
Anything for men?

>>385070535
https://www.lovehoney.com.au/product.cfm?p=34852
https://www.lovehoney.com.au/product.cfm?p=38189
seems like they would work with guys
that was just a quick search alot of toys can be controlled through your phone

>>385070281
>ST Zelda starts out expecting Link to do everything but becomes more competent and actively involved through the game.

Moments like that are mainly a deliberately humorous poke at the games intentional subversion of Zelda's role in the story.

>As for Tetra, there's no reason to because in WW her being Zelda doesn't mean anything beyond her having the ToW. In her case it's more her having a bit of an ego and having to let go of that. It's not much but it doesn't exist around making her an endearing waifu.

I love Tetra's character, but that's exactly my point. BotW introduces the concept of a Zelda having to work and possibly fail to get her powers. Seeing her gradually gain respect for Link culminating in her ceding control of the final battle is a nice subtle bit of a development, but I really would've like a line or two show some sort of conflicting feelings about going from pirate to princess. I don't think having a likable Zelda who isn't a tomboy defaults to being a waifu

>>385061172
is that bird poop in their hair

>>385069821
That's not what he said you imbecile
Double imbecile for making me say mean things

>>385042294
not have a fag boy lead.

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Remove this man.

>>385073953
Why won't the Aonuma is bad meme go away?

>>385074578
because every zelda game he directed was bad

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Link thread?

>>385051931
this is a decent idea as long as they don't force any heterosexual bullshit onto link

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>>385076946
sure, dont want to test the mods tho

>>385042294
BotW but with actual dungeons, and underwater mechanics (and a dedicated fishing mode)

>>385074578

Because he himself said he made mistakes. A lot of what went into BotW was the stuff he couldn't get done on Wind Waker or the things he thought needed fixing in Twilight Princess.

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>>385076946
Yes. When >>385042294 post a pic like that he just wants an excuse to do a stealth Lewd Link thread.

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>>385078438
lewd link

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the lack of barbarian link art is disappointing

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>>385079073
4U

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>You will never have a bf as cute as link

>>385059738

Demise was a good opportunity to like, show more of the origin of Ganondorf's slightly dignified evil bastard complex. But Demise hardly did much, and we never learned much about the demons, or even the goddess really, and the chink civilization either. It was quite the prequel but they forgot to really flesh out the origins of the whole damn mythos much.

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>>385065251

>>385051768
Not really, he just uses the "I don't have time for you" excuse a lot

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>>385054650
>that ganondorf

>>385074921
He produces now.

>>385042294
More playable characters.
That's what I think many people expected from BotW's DLC 2, I'd prefer to fly through Hyrule as Revali, hunting shit to prove I'm a better champion than Link to being stuck with a glorified superjump, kicking the Yiga clan out of the desert as Urbosa, or resolving a Zora/Lizalfos side conflict with Mipha.

>>385080582
While I imagine some fans would hate it, I would like to see Demise show up again in some capacity. Maybe one of Ganon's boss forms could reference Demise or something. It's weird to set up such an elaborate backstory and do almost nothing with it. I guess there were a couple references to Fi but nobody likes her.

>Replaying the game after i beat it
>Find out about the infinite guardian drops glitch
>Do it and grab a lot of shit for like 30 mins
>"Dont press start right away or the game will crash"
>Go away as far as i can even though the frame rate is still dropping
>Game starts loading and crashes anyway
>This happens twice

God damn it, i just want all the rupees i need for the fairy bitches, why are you such a bitch to me game?

Make it rated T again like Twilight Princess and go back to realistic art.

Why is it that Zelda games made by other people, look better than actual Zelda games.
Smash, Soul Calibur II and Hyrule Warriors look better than every Zelda game.

>>385043667
Don't say that, the last time you said that we got trains and it was gay as fuck

>>385046023
I'd like to see a switchup of which reincarnation gets a piece of the Tri-force to start off with.

>Link Gets the Triforce of Strength
>Ganon has the Triforce of Wisdom
>Zelda has the Triforce of Bravery

Though Link progressing with the Triforce of Wisdom, Zelda with Strength, and Ganon with Bravery would be interesting too.

>>385042294
3D Four Swords

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>>385086905

The comics did that. Where Link snuck into Ganon's castle and stole the triforce of power. But then it turned him into a jerk (as if he could be any more of a douche) and he started to turn into a pig. Their solution to this? They gave the fucking triforce back to Ganon.

>>385042294
make an open world majora's mask, where you play as original link and termina is still stuck in the same loop. make every area much bigger, and stopping the moon is only part of the game, as the loop continues, and the game is about finding out what's causing the loop. people acknowledge they're in a loop the more you save them, sort of like going from deja vu, to fully realizing it.