Will Supergiant deliver again? The song they released is not

I have a feeling it'll be another Transistor where I love it but most people won't be able to get into it as much as Bastion.

I think most people just want them to make Bastion again instead of trying new things. Like, Pyre seems like some kind of visual novel/sports game. That probably won't appeal to most people in the same way that Bastion did.

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>>385016481
looking good so far

>>385016745
Don't blame Transistor's flop on "trying new things", please. The story was literally about nothing.

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>>385017080
>transistor
>flop

Also fuck you, the story was great

>>385017179
Please, tell me about Transistor's story in a way that won't make the thread laugh at you. Red - Kill Urself My Man

That being said, I liked gameplay and music, and some tracks are better than Bastion's tracks.

>anthro dog

ruh-roh

>>385017360
Technology has advanced to the point where the current setting has every aspect of its reality subject to the whims of the inhabitants. Since nothing has any permanance and requires no effort to change, a small group of people feel that this is robbing meaning from different aspects of the people's lives. So they decide to change things by absorbing the most influential architects of reality into what is essentially the keystone for the mechanism that creates the world based on the will of the people, to make a stable world that has some sense of purpose and meaning in it. They try to absorb Red into this, but her boyfriend/lover/whatever takes the hit that was meant for her and they escape with the transistor. Without the transistor, the Camerata can't control the process, which starts wiping away reality. Everyone dies.

>>385016745
The gameplay looks fun, it is one of the most original "arena" kind of game in the last years. I'm more worried about the narrative/artsy aspects of the game to be honest.
The characters look like they were ripped off straight out of the cover of a young adult fantasy book for girls. Even this concept of teams representing personality quirks looks like it belongs to one of those books trying to replicate the success of Harry Potter.

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>>385017471
how about a Worm Knight?

>>385017597
I want to protect that smile

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>>385017707
there are also Bat companions

>>385016745

The issue with Transistor WAS that it tried to copy the feel of Bastion instead of making a different game, actually. They went as far as to whore it out with a "lol narrator guis remember bastion??" meme, which was entirely unnecessary.

The fantasy hockey gameplay ruins the whole thing. Looks boring as fuck.

>>385017524
>Everyone dies.
This is the story.

The other things you described are a premise to this. So, what's good about the story of Transistor anyway?

>>385017889
Thats not what a meme is

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>>385017080
how can one post be so pleb?

THAT'S what the characters look like? what the fuck? It doesn't even look like the game takes place in the modern world.

So what's the game about? Reincarnation/salvation story?

>>385018049
Please, join OP, and explain what was so good about Transistor's story.

Bastion's story had a choice (actually, a few choices) in the end. Transistor was literally "hurr red run, okay, now kick that guy's who we only heard of a few times ass, okay now die, the end"

>>385017080
The story didn't feel like it was about nothing, to me. My only real criticism with the story is that it didn't flesh out the world enough from before everything went to shit. It kept all of its lore in function descriptions and forced you to intuit a lot about the world itself. And also those two Camerata offing themselves before you got to kill them, that felt like a cop out to me.

But aside from that, the story involving the main characters felt engaging and kept me interested the entire time. And the combat/mechanics felt really fresh to me at the time, and even though you could find a really broken combination of functions pretty easily (Void + Cull) it still felt like you had so many combinations to play with that it never got old for me. Also the music was great for the most part. Also also it has one of my favorite final bosses.

>>385017889
The narrator felt less like they were trying to copy Bastion and more like they had this very talented voice actor that they wanted to make use of and ended up giving him a similar role in order to do that. But aside from that and the forced overhead perspective, I didn't feel like there were too many similarities between the two games.

>>385018229
It doesn't

>>385018268
slamming with the best and jamming with the rest

>>385017958
>This is the story.
No, that's the ending. And technically main characters aren't dead, they went inside whatever simulation is inside the Transistor. You gradually unveil the secrets of Cloudbank and Camerata for the entire game while trying to stop the Process from overtaking everything and you actually succeed.

>>385018268
You have to win those basketball matches to redeem yourself from you deeds or some shit like that.

>>385017958
You could be this reductive about literally any story

Everyone dying is the ending of the story. Red realizes that, in the end, she can't bring back any of the people already destroyed by the process. Even if she could use the Transistor to restore the city, it would be empty aside from her. So she decided it would be better to live within "The Country" instead.

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>>385016481
Those characters look kickass, I don't know what you're talking about dude. The song isn't as good as the best from Bastion & Transistor, but I still like it.

Apparently - judging by a couple of reviews that are out - the basketball games are like religious rites, and the winning team gets to choose one of their teammates to not be exiled anymore and return to the world they came from. Your goal is to liberate everyone, but if you lose a game, the story keeps going and that's one less person you'll be able to set free. And the ones you do set free, you have to say goodbye to forever. So you're going to have to make a lot of tough choices. I think it sounds like a neat way to make your victories count.

>>385018497
>I didn't feel like there were too many similarities between the two games.

Music, characters, art direction, and combat were all pretty different. I love both games and Darren Korb is honestly one of my favorite vidya soundtrack niggas.

At the same time the story and how it progressed felt very similar to Bastion. The Process and The Calamity were pretty damn similar. On top of that you have a narration from the same exact voice actor and the music vocals from the same people. I think that's enough similarities to warrant people comparing them.

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>>385017958
>This is the story. The other things you described are a premise to this.

>>385016481
>the song is not that great

shit taste kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90N9RcFMqu0

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>>385021678
that looks fucking great, can't wait for the game to unlock

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>>385021678
>that music at 4:00

Fucking Darren Korb man, how does he fucking do it?

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>>385017080
>There are people who prefered Bastion over Transistor in this very thread

>>385017889
>"lol narrator guis remember bastion??"
This is true, though. Still Transistor is their best game, and a great game overall.

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>>385021678
SPIRITUAL
VAGABOND
BASKETBALL

>>385018268
GET UP AND JAM

>>385017889
What the fuck are you talking about? Transistor was incredibly ambitious, so much so it turned a lot of people off because they expected something simple like Bastion. Using the same guy (whose a fucking programmer) to essentially narrate the game again was about the only similarity, otherwise they did the exact opposite of what you'd expect for a small studio and made a follow-up that was nothing at all like their first game.

>>385021678

looks great but I was expecting more of a traditional batttle / tactics RPG instead of a magic sports game

>inserting gender politics into vidya
>neogaf trying to positively look at gay propaganda inserted into child friendly games

>>385023079
did you not watch a single trailer?

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>>385021678
>that fucking music

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>>385023608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3IoBhXZhN8

Another 9/10 review

Fucking Supergiant Games man, literally the only devs I trust

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>>385021678
I knew I had nothing to worry about.

I wonder how this game will jump the shark in the ending.
No fucking way there won't be another "Who goes first?" or Zulf rescue-tier scene.

>>385024457
>playing games for the story
lol

>>385024457
from what I see from the reviews, there is no "Game Over", but fucking up means leaving more and more people behind

>>385016910
Their friends gave their game high marks again? Color me surprised!

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Fucking SJWs ruining video games.

>>385025317
what.

>>385025910
Where?

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>>385026026
Why?

>>385016481
The characters look great

>>385025587
male,female,beast

>>385027593
beasts don't have genders?

>>385028089
do ayy lmao have genders?

>>385016481
those "jump into the fire" animations are pretty sweet

They really should just make Bastion 2, though. Honestly, fuck the story, I just want those nicely designed weapons that make you want to try out different combinations with their different upgrades.

>>385028725
Fuck off. It's good that they're always going for something different instead of milking their initial success.

>>385028925
Whatever, I'll just watch this game be a failure from a distance then from a company that's trying way too hard to make something quirky.

>>385029037
>Supergiant Games
>Making a failure.

lmao kid

>>385025587
>don't choose special snowflake pronouns
>play the game
>???
>fun

The fact that a shitty unnecessary feature is there doesn't mean you have to use it.

It's literally magic soccer, at this point it's looking like Bastion was a fluke and Supergiant can't make good games consistently.

I doubt it'll be as good as Bastion or Transistor.

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>>385029337
>soccer
fucking burgers, thanks for letting me know i can disregard the rest of your post

>>385029337
not an argument

>>385016481
looks like shit, and the visual novel aspects look annoying. hope it flops

>>385028725
Fuck no. That story is closed

>>385028725
If supergiant ever makes Bastion 2, I will find you and kill you. The story is done. No more fucking sequels.

>>385029037
don't you have a consolewar thread to shitpost in? at least make some effort

>>385029337
Euro here. You're right. It looks like fantasy football/hockey

IT LOOKS LIKE DOGSHIT, WHY WOULD THEY GO WITH MEME SPORTS GAMEPLAY?

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>>385029337
>soccer

>>385033675
Why would you go with the calling a thing a meme meme?

So this game has been getting 8 and 9 all over the place. How much did supergiant have to pay to shill their football rip off?

>>385033675
>sports
this seems to be a recurring theme, is everyone that turned off by gameplay resembling sports?

i've never played madden/fifa and the like but i don't think there's anything wrong with it

>>385035363
>some indie studio with all of 10 members
>having enough money to shill anything

>>385033675
Looks like rugby.

>>385035508
>>having enough money to shill anything
Okay then, who did Ashley have to sleep with?

>>385035714
>>385035363
Is it really so hard to believe that people genuinely just like the game?
Yeah it obviously gets the indie cred bonus points, but it's not a shitty walking sumulator.

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>>385016481

The game could be shit but it won't be cause Supergiant consistently deliver, but I'd still play it just for Daren Korb's music. I don't think there's a composer out there whose music I enjoy more than his.

>>385023023
>so much so it turned a lot of people off because they expected something simple
My problem with Transistor was that it didn't go far enough. I could tell they were afraid of confusing players with how complex it started getting. The game ended at a moment which I thought would be the halfway point at the latest. Fighting others with the exact same powers as yours right down to the time mechanics while your skillset gets exponentially more varied sounded really appealing, and then the credits rolled. You can't even unlock the full skilltree in a single playthrough. One of the only games where I wished multiplayer was shoehorned in so they could fully explore the challenge and depth of the combat system.

>>385036264

as good as the games are in general, I still wonder if they'd be as popular if it wasn't for Darren's music.

>>385036526
People underestimate how important a good soundtrack is. It can turn an okay moment into a fucking amazing one.

>>385017080

The story on Transistor was alright. His real problem was his lenght and having so few bosses.

>>385036526
Bastion had good music but it's the narration that made it stand out, it sounds kind of generic now but it was a pretty unique type of storytelling back then. And I guess Transistor sold from being made by the same people and having Loghan being the main voice actor in the game once again.

>>385029230
It still shouldnt be there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAWmSzN7Uf8

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>last I heard about this game was like 6 months ago
>suddenly it's coming out tomorrow
Sweet jesus, today is a good day

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>>385037247
>the soundtrack is coming out on the same day as the game

>no online multiplayer
I probably wouldn't have played an online mode too much but it would have been a nice thing to include

>>385017360
>that won't make the thread laugh at you
you have issues

>>385023079
well too bad

so, from some of the reviews, with regard to the no game-over system:

winning rites causes party members to "ascend" to the living world and leave the party, while losing rites causes them to stay, but # of rites are limited so some will never ascend
thoughts?

>>385038343
It's either going to result in something super interesting or be irrelevant.
Then the twist will be that ascending is a bad thing, and you doomed a bunch of people by winning.

>>385033675
>muh sports

Nothing wrong about it. Also it makes sense; it's a game based around a tribal combat selection system

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>>385036756
>People underestimate how important a good soundtrack is.

This. Most of my most memorable gaming experiences are based around the amazing soundtracks. Sound design is probably THE most important element in video games after gameplay

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>>385037247
Supergiant doesn't believe in hype trains. Their first reveal came with a functional demo for everyone to play at the conference. Then they run zero ads until release date when holy shit it is coming out.

MFW I am traveling tomorrow with family and I won't have a computer to play the game for three weeks.

>>385038567
i'm more interested in how it affects party composition and the like

do you keep the exile that you've invested time, conversations, and stats in to have a better shot at winning additional rites, or do you keep him in the underworld with the possibility that you don't win and they never make it out

>>385038343
Has a lot of potential, but it's going to depend on how it impacts story and gameplay that determines how good or bad the idea is.

>>385038343
That looks interesting except for the fact that I will have to Intentionally lose fights to keep some party members with me.

>>385039240
that's probably why people look back at older games more fondly. they had more memorable OSTs.

>>385038067
I think that if they went for online multiplayer, a lot of time would have to be spent in balancing stuff. Also, maybe some of the skills would have to be cut because balance and fun are usually mutually exclusive.

>>385039487
I think that's the point, do you keep your best bro who has won you countless rites knowing that if you lose the next one he might have to stay in limbo for the rest of his life or do you send him up for a job well done and lost your bro as well as your best party member.

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>>385038343
>>385039487
>fell in love with a character
>realize that winning and saving him/her means that you will never see each other again
>keep losing just to keep him/her in the party
>he/she starts to become more and more depressed, but you are too afraid to let go


Oh god I already cannot handle this. Fuck.

>>385039684
I mean, the game looks easy from what I saw with the AI. Intentionally splitting your party to let the opponents defeat you? Unless it is hard enough that organically losing is a possibility it is going to be a drag.

>>385039979
Well I mean you could just set it to the highest difficulty if you want to...

>>385016481
I'm excited. The main games plays like Oregon Trail but with actually fun mini games and character building.

Also the theme song isn't bad.

This is what he told me when I emailed him to bitch about the neutral pronoun.
You can't do that, you can't separate politics from your shit.
Furthermore, if your character is never shown, then this is even less defensible.
OH. And I take this as confirmation that the game has characters that use gender neutral pronouns in game.
No I'll be pirating it.

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>>385040112
Forgot image

im not buying it because their games are not compelling enough to play
i still have transistor and bastiona nd havent gotten past the first hour of transistor or the 2rd hour of bastion

they got cool premises but core gamepaly is not rewarding or enjoyable, just "Servicable" might be excusable for some narrative heavy game, but all their games are gameplay focused over narrative hence, unrewarding to continue playing because im not hooked

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>>385040220
Is this what autism looks like?

>>385039979
there are idol/limiter-like titans that you can use to make the game selectively harder

>>385040112
it's literally a single optional checkbox that you tick just to change what the characters refer to you as, you're making a mountain out of a molehill

not to mention some of the characters are literal trees and worms

>>385040452
nice argument, brah

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god dammit why hasn't anyone posted the soundtrack yet

>>385040112
I can't believe that you actually bothered to email someone to bitch over something so minor.

>>385040637
I'm not sure where you got the impression I was arguing with you, I was insulting you, there's a huge difference

>>385040112
>>385040220
what a fucking waste of carbon atoms

>Bastion - great music, great story, narrator voice, okay gameplay... some crap gameplay like falling off shit
>Transistor - great music, same narrator guy, er, clunky pseduo-turnbased (good try) didn't play it more than a bit due to my slow computer
>Pyre - er, it looks like, weird sports game
both Bastion and Transistor hooked me... but with Pyre, I just don't want to play a sportsgame.

Same with Frozen Synpase...great
Frozen Cortex... robot sportsgame, nope

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>>385040220
>>385040112
Is this supposed to make him look like a bad guy? Everything he said makes sense and justifies the option of neutral pronouns in the world the game takes place in. You got bfto, sorry to say.

>>385040112
>>385040220
You're in the wrong, /pol/tard
He's based for even replying to you and would only be even more based if he told you to fuck off

>>385041195
sport-like elements =/= sportsgame

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>>385025587
>gender choice in game including a 'neither' option is vidya armageddon
From any other dev I'd be derisive right now, but I have confidence in Supergiant
but lol at the sheriff of Moralville over here >>385036949
Head of the Department of Civil Correctness and supreme authority on human rights
Thank you for your input on which people to purge/exile

>>385040112
>>385040220
I hate this SJW gender shit too but his reason seems totally understandable and is justified given the context.

>>385040112
>>385040220
Just like I said multiple times it's meant to make you choose between male, female and beast

>>385042692
this. that's like complaining about genderless pokemon.

>>385016481
So is this game co-op or..? I don't really feel like buying it since it's like 20 bucks and ps4 has some good sales right now, but I may pirate it for PC.

>>385042256
it's a game that plays like a sport, you have a ball, and goals and shit.

>>385043061
singleplayer with the option of local 2player games

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>Pyre understands the primal thrill behind executing a dangerous slam dunk and the dueling probabilities of luck and dexterity necessary to make it happen. With Pyre, Supergiant Games' passion for systems-driven trials of skill and fondness for vibrant, wistful fantasy converge in the Mutant League NBA Jam daydream role-playing game I never knew I always wanted.

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I'm really excited and already preordered. I loved both Bastion and Transistor, though Transistor beats out by a little due to the unique game mechanics and the story. I know I'm a casual

>>385040220
That's a pretty good reply desu

The pre-order promotion ends in 20 hours. That means it will only be released on the afternoon? I wish it was released at midnight, I won't be able to play it after ten in the morning.
Guess I will arrive 1 day late to the party.

>>385044102
Yeah, usual steam release time.

>Fallen London and Sunless sea give you over 10 options for what people in London or out at Zee will call you
>One option is even "Si- Er Mada-, er, yes!"
>When presented with a child, you can choose if you're the mother, father, or neither and you just found the kid on the street
>but /v/ throws a shitfit when a game with fucking monsters in it dares to think that someone might want to self insert as someone without a gender on the binary.

>>385044886
>implying anyone complaining about the 3rd option actually plays video games

>no Logan Cunningham
Dropped

i remember that transistor was unplayable on pc on release for a full week
i'm not buyint this blindly like a good little goy

>>385046107
https://twitter.com/glancingonhuman/status/722484037722456064?lang=en pretty sure hes in it

>>385046107
he's the voice you hear in the trailers and in gameplay proper

>>385046287
>>385046385
Picked back up

>>385042707
>>385042858
Beast isn't a fucking gender

>>385044886
Because FL/SS and Pyre are actually good games (at least I think Pyre is going to be good)
Most games that have multiple gender options are trash because most SJW's that make them don't actually know what good gameplay or good writing is

>>385026178
how COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME