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Why not hire 1000 voice actors and let them voice each character

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Why not hire 1000 voice actors and let them voice each character individually instead of repeating the same people over and over and over?

If price is a concern, I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money, knowing their voice would be in a game from a big franchise.
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>>384962443
>I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money, knowing their voice would be in a game from a big franchise.

no.
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>>384962443
>If price is a concern, I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money, knowing their voice would be in a game from a big franchise.
>wanting any shitter to voice in a game

That's silly for the reason that is that people fucking suck at voice acting.
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>>384962443
>get people who actually know how to voice act
>or or get people in who can't act for shit and break immersion

HMMM I WONDER WHY
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>>384962443
>If price is a concern, I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money, knowing their voice would be in a game from a big franchise.
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No. That would be ridiculous. It would be like selling a gold mine for a used condom, but being told it's ok because the cum inside of it belongs to Winston Churchill.
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>>384962443
Have you ever installed a mod where people add in NPCs for their mod questlines and they add their own voice acting for those characters?
Do you know how those always sound like shit, even the absolute best ones?
It's because most people are fucking awful at voice acting. Which is why they'd rather get a few professional than a thousand amateurs
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>>384962693
Implying Bethesda has good voice actors in the first place.

Who

Are you?
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>>384962876
They're not great compared to other VAs

But compared to the average person they're fucking superstars.

hell even SOTNs VA is great compared to normal people (actually i don't mind it at all, I think the script is the bad part.)
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>>384962443
>If price is a concern, I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money, knowing their voice would be in a game from a big franchise.

Find 10 people you know and ask them to record a line, then see if their acting holds up to VA in Skyrim

Now times those lines by 1000 and tell me how your idea holds up
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>>384962876
Those "bad" voice actors are still 100x better than bad voice actors
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>>384962443
>need 1200gb of voice files instead of 1 that gets repeated for every non-essential npc
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>>384963058
Don't forget to add inthe mere idea of "Hey voice my big AAA title for either pennies or free!"
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>>384962801
This
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>>384962801
The only good voice work I've seen done in a mod was one in NV, but that's because it was JohnnyUtah.
The writing was weird and you could tell Jeff changed some stuff to just sound better but he personally did a great job
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>>384962876
Oh, there are better actors out there than the ones Bethesda hires, but there is at least a standard.

For example, go search the nexus for quest mods and tell me that the voice actors are worse than the ones in most mods.
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Why didn't Bethesda at least hire singers to voice bards instead of that insult of a singing they finally put in-game?

To twist the knife further, they put on a Dark Brotherhood quest to assassinate a bard because he's supposedly a bad singer. That bard is the only one who makes us the favor of not singing.
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>>384963179
yeah I didn't go there because that there is enough to tear OPs idea to shreds

I'm sure he's also a big advocate of socialism

>hey give your service for free! you'll be cool with it because its for the greater good, right?
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>>384963179
thats not even a problem, thats all marketing.
make it a "contest".
"enter bethesdas once in a life time sweepstakes to appear in Skyrim 2!"
you'd definitely get at least 50k people enter. just pick 1000.
that's not even the most retarded part of the idea.
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>>384963356
>I'm sure he's also a big advocate of socialism
>>hey give your service for free! you'll be cool with it because its for the greater good, right?

Eh I wouldn't go that far. He's probably just a fucking idiot that has no idea what business and economics is and thinks that Gaming is a magical kind of artform that makes itself out of pure love and happiness, and not lots of money, time, and work.
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you could get /v/irgins to voice act and they'd be good enough if you cherry picked from a lot of anons
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>>384963348
was that because he was a bad singer
i thought he fucked someone over or something
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>>384963545
No you vastly over estimate /v/. Just look at that fucking faggy musical the redditors here do every year. It's ass.
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>>384963448
That would be a pretty horrible idea, since if you're going to make an Elder Scrolls to follow up on the financial success that was Skyrim, you don't want a bunch of random, untrained average joes and janes coming in fucking up the game's voice acting with odd sounding voices like a high school project.

It works best with make a wish sort of deals like that one Tauren in WoW.
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>>384962443
Here's a better idea, instead of blowing your budget hiring celebrities that have 10 lines then later die, how about using that money to hire as much people as possible?
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Why can't the thousands of employees voice the characters? That's pretty much what every game developer did back in the day to save cost on development.
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>>384963582
He is in a hit list for "being a bad bard".
I think he was the best in the game. Not only kept silent, he played the based drums. All instrumental, much better.

The worst bard would be that wanderer who dares to ask money to kill your ears. Or that woman in Dawnstar who punk rocks Ragnar The Red.
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>>384963927
>That's pretty much what every game developer did back in the day to save cost on development.
And it usually sucked, VA is an area where games have gotten much better imo.
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the answer is the voice actors guild or whatever its called. They have a clause that says if you want to use a professional voice actor (and you do for a AAA game) you can ONLY use professional voice actors for your game. Furthermore, there are clauses for minimum amount of work done, IE read a single line, get paid for at least 6 hours of voice acting work, and the rates are pretty steep. This makes it much more financially viable to use a few voice actors for everything, rather than a ton of voice actors for a bunch of one liners. Ever notice how old games tend to have a few good voice actors and a ton of shitty ones? Yeah, cant do that anymore.
Source: some podcast with a professional voice actor where this topic came up.
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Voice acting was a mistake.

To think they'll never come back with text thinking that would be a downgrade...
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> I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money,
Well Deus Ex used their own developers for VAs. And it works in the game's lovably goofy style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihGm4KfY7k

But if you want Voice Actors to sound good well you have to pay them. And no they don't work for free.
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>>384964183
>Wikipedia entries
>Good dialogue
Anon please
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>>384964183
>Ah the good old days where you would read WALLS and WALLS and WALLS and WALLS of boring, dry text.

Yeah no fuck that I'm fine with voice acting thank you.
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>>384964491
T.low int lvl anon
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>>384962801
With the exception of the one squeaky girl, the Skyrim mod "Helgen Reborn" has excellent voice acting.
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>>384964230
Bob Page(voice actor) and Walton Simmons(dev) is a good comparison i think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStn70Ot4r0
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>>384963695
Well yeah it's an awful fucking idea anyway but if you want people to do it free the contest is the way to do it. They're not going to sound good either way.
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>>384963636
>Just look at that fucking faggy musical the redditors here do every year
i need to stop coming here
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>>384963321
what mod ?
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>>384964183
I want them to bring back this kind of player dialogue desu, have the player imagine what their character is saying instead of having the game decide.

>playing through Skyrim as a mage, my characters likes to study history, debate, theorize all that mage stuff
>finally get the chance to talk to a dragon
>HURR DURR DRAGONS LIKE MOUNTAINS, RIGHT?
>I DIDN'T COME HERE TO DEBATE PHILOSOPHY GIVE ME MY QUEST ALREADY
>Blades later on decide that I should kill him and I have no say in the matter

Fuck off, either do it right or don't do it at all, the worst part is when npcs treat you like a dumbfuck for not knowing who King WeWuz IV of the Second Era was but you had no dialogue option to say "oh yeah, I know what you're talking about"
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>>384964585

No, what's low INT is shoving lore and exposition into dialogue instead of putting it in an in-game book or codex.
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>>384965559
How do you feel about Original Sin 2's *you ask him about what happened* dialog choices?
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>>384964183

Is that a face mod? I don't remember the Imperials having those kinds of homosexual Chad aesthetics.
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>>384965908
I haven't played it yet
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>>384966036
okay well, what do you think of a dialog system where you're not given any written dialog and instead the concept of what you're asking is listed?
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>>384962443
>If price is a concern, I'm sure many people would do it for free or for very little money
Vidya devs and animu dubbers did this in the 90's and early 00's as a way to save money. The end result was a legacy so terrible neither can get over the reputation for terrible voice over work over a decade after they started hiring real talent.
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>>384966175
Sounds good for the player but is probably a nightmare for voice actors since they don't have the slightest clue on the tone of the conversation with the PC.

I'd be okay with just having more options like the Fallout games.
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>>384962443
Hiring people off the street is going to sound awful, but games that used "people within the company" and "personal friends that are part of the local playhouse group" usually turn out overall more diverse, cheaper, and arguably better results.
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>>384965845
I bet you love the "go kill draugr/raiders" of skyrim and fallout 4
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>>384966517

No, I'm a lorefag.

It's simple fact that trying to "immersively" hide your lore in dialogue is stupid.
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>>384964108

In addition to this, it's illegal to allow someone to work for you and not pay them minimum wage (there are edge cases to this, but they don't apply here). I don't know what the going rate for professional voice actors is, but paying a bunch of people ~$8 an hour will become expensive pretty quickly.
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