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Will DBFZ save fighting games?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wF8NvH33jQ
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WAKU WAKU
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>>384944929
Did they blow their entire budget on the episodes introducing Frieza?
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Not for me. Fuck this genre. I am so done.

This whole "you vs. another guy" thing is full of faggotry and shiteating in this day and age.
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>>384944548
>These assblasted smashbabies
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Holy shit, the guy in that video is retarded
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>>384944929
are you a retard
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>>384944548
>Smashbabies btfo holy shit
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>>384944548
>asshurt animefaggot mad that his niche weebshit doesn't get attention - the video
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with how despised sfv and mcu vs crapcom seem to be i think this game could be really big. just needs a couple more key fighters.
stop shilling jeff
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>>384944548
>12 minute video to say
>"I like animu fighting games"
>"I hope DBFZ will be popular"
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>>384948413
>>384947842
He's also extremely delusional in thinking that DBFZ could be as successful as shit like Smash.
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>>384948565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVdoDlsN-A
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>>384948565
I understand the whole DBZ has a huge brand name behind it and that gives it leverage against titles like Street Fighter and Marvel, but you can't even use that against Nintendo cause Nintendo is MUCH more popular than DBZ. Still though, I really am curious how popular this game will be. If it'll just be bigger than the usual arc sys games or if it can be like how SF4 was to 09ers and introduce a lot of new people into the genre.
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>>384948565
Not to say that it will, but if absolute kusoge like Bodukai 3 can sell a couple million copies, I imagine an actual good DBZ game can probably sell very well.
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>>384949334
I'm still waiting on an official source on the Budokai games selling that well. VGcahrtz does not count, I want a source from the devs/publisher.
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>>384944929
Not the same form, nor was it a long fight. Also, Goku didn't even get a scratch from all that shit with Kale.

Kale walking though the SSB Kamehameha was pretty dumb, though. Her getting btfo by one of Jiren's ki blasts was even dumber.
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>>384949334
Those games sell well because they're like NRS games and have a lot of content. If Arc Sys launches with a sub 20ish roster it's not going to sell anywhere near as much as the budokai games even if it's mechanically better in every way.
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>>384949452
>Tenkaichi 3 (ps2/wii)
4mil
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>>384949907
That isn't a source.
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>>384944929
the shitty u6 saiyans are a mistake
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>>384949619
goku was using a wave though, jiren used an exploder
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>>384944548
>yfw they do a JoJo fighting game if this is successful
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>>384944548
>toriyama shits all over krillin past two super episodes
I couldn't give less of a fuck what Dragonshit Z does now.
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>>384950430
>JoJo
Fuck off.

Gimme a YYH game.
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>>384944548
Only if they keep women out of it.
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>>384944548
DBFZ is the transition to anime being mainstream in FGC.

I sincerely hope this overtakes SF in popularity and anime games dominate in the future.
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>>384950651
Toriyama doesn't really work on the anime at all, anon.

All that he and Toyotaro do for the anime is rough out the major plot points for each arc. Toei is the one that 'shit' on Krillin.

That said, last episode was p. good for Krillin overall, though. Only bad thing was how he got eliminated.
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>>384950760
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>>384950657
When's the last time it was relevant, though. There's no anime or manga right now.
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>>384950657
I'd love to smash some people with younger Togoro
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>>384950430
>JoJo
mah nigga, patrician taste.
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>>384950875
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>>384944548
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>>384950430
>wasting another development team's time with that faggot franchise
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Is it wrong to like Smash but absolutely despise the fuck out of the community?
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>>384946350
Looks like someone couldn't take the competitive heat. Also
>I am so done
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>>384950935
>There's no anime or manga right now.
And?

Its better than both DB and JoJoshit.
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>>384950820
I still think not having crossplay was a retarded move if they wanted this become really mainstream, even SFV added that because they know that helps a lot. It's one of the few things SFV did right even though that game is shit.
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>>384951097
I never touched any SF game. What exactly is wrong with SFV?
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>>384951053
Enjoying the salt as it steadily becomes more and more popular.
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>>384950430
It's either JoJo or One Piece if we're being realistic. Most likely One Piece cause of how monumentally huge it is in Japan, not to mention arc sys already made a 3ds game like extreme butoden before. I'd prefer a OPM game though or even YYH though.
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>tournament with 8 different unvierses
>90% of eliminations has been by universe 6
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lul, smashers put on blast. but yeah, DBFZ will save the genre but only if it's good. Only 3 days left to register for the beta BTW.
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>>384951183
i havent played since they released Urien but from what i remember its the characters hitboxes, the characters themselves, and fight money.
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>>384951312
>SMASH IS NOT A FIGHTING GAME RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
He just soudned assblasted that smash was popular and his animeshit wasn't.
>inb4 smashbabby
I only play tekken.
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>>384951078
>let's make a game for a demographic we can't sell it to
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>>384951183
The same thing that was wrong with every Street Fighter - it wasn't the same exact thing as the previous game.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384950657
>YYH

fuck that shit i want my saint seiya game.
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>>384950430
It'll be Dragon Ball Fighter2
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>>384951556
We just had one for PS3 anon.
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>>384944548
Okay, honest question for someone who has never played any Arcsys game.
Are they good?
I am willing to try DBZF while i wait for my thoughts on MvCi and Tekken.
whats the pros and cons of Arcsys?
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>>384951183
No one gives a concrete answer to this question, and no two people ever give you the same answer, because hating the game is a meme.
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>>384951556
Would this be more popular than KOF in mexico?
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>>384951556
Saint Seiya got a game less than two years ago you nigger.
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>>384951427
>I only play tekken.
So your opinion means shit, then.
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>>384951183
Nothing. People just like to be contrarian.
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>>384951693
thanks doc
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>>384951693
They're amazing if you're good at frame-perfect inputs.
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>>384951556
>Saint Seiya already had a rad soundtrack
>Mfw Arcsys gets ahold of it
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384951428
Not him, but YYH just celebrated a 25th and is still a highly popular series. Your underage tendencies doesn't change that a bit.
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>>384951967
That reminds me; you think they'll use any of the superior dub music tracks in DBFZ?
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>>384950760
>>384950875
>>384951024
Cell's Solar Kamehameha is beautiful
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!!!
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>>384951249
If anything your pic related is probably a more likely chance of an arc sys game desu.
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>>384952162
So was JoJo, but it never got any recent games until the anime. Popular series that aren't updated with new adaptations are only popular in the same way Seinfeld is popular: Sure, everyone knows and loves it, but nobody's rushing to make or buy new merch for it.
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>>384952334
>BHNA Arc sys fighter
not him but dont get my hopes up like that
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>>384952334
I mean, If prefer a JoJo game, but I wouldn't complain about a BNHA game.
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>>384952559
Why does /v/ have an autistic hate boner for JoJo?
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>>384952559
Is that thee part with ZA WARUDO XD. ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
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>>384952642
They used to love it, but then it became popular. So, same reason they hate anything.
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>>384952642
Some of /v/ hasnt looked past the jojo falseflagging days.
I for one would like to see how an Arcsys Jojo fighter would work
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>>384950430
GIVE ME THIS I NEED IT

ALSO QUICK POST YOUR ROSTERS

GIVE YOUR HOPES AND THOUGHTS ON WHAT CHARACTERS ARE GONNA BE IN THE GAME AND WHO SHOULD BE IN THE GAME

>CONFIRMED
Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Freeza
Cell
Buu
Mirai Trunks
Krillin
Piccolo

>PRACTICALLY GUARANTEED
Android 18
Beerus

>WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT IN
Master Roshi
Tenshinhan
Android 16
Android 17
Captain Ginyu
Broly (as much as I don't care about him he seems to be a popular character and has a lot of moves to draw from)
Hit (cool assassin that people love to play as and has shown a lot of moves that the game can draw from in the manga and anime)

>WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THEY MADE IT IN
Bardock
Raditz
Whis
Zarbon
Doctor Gero (a really unique move set with KI draining so that could be cool if that's in the game)
Android 19 (same reason as Doctor Gero)
Yamcha
Goten
Kid Trunks
Nappa
Gotenks (brings a lot of unique moves to the game such as the Kamikaze Ghost Attack and such)
Super Janemba
Mr. Satan (unique move set and joke character which is a mainstay in many fighting games)
Kid Buu

>WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY MADE IT IN
Mr. Popo
Kami
Uub
Korin
Dende
Bulma (using a mech or something)
Chiaotzu
Videl
Yajirobe
Arale
Dodoria
Fortuneteller Baba
Anyone else from any of the different Universes in Dragon Ball Super
Anyone from the Ginyu Force other than Ginyu
Any of the Kais
Anyone from Dragon Ball Era such as Kid Goku, King Piccolo, Chi Chi, etc.
Any other forms of Buu
Any fusions such as Vegito, Gogeta, etc.
Anyone from the other Movies
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>>384952642
They don't. There was a poll yesterday of people asking what should be the next arc sys anime fighter and jojo won by a landslide.
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>>384951793
definetelly.
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>>384952442
>recent games
You keep pulling that card when it's useless. Dragon Ball was still getting games long before BoG was even considered, and YYH long after ending still got games as late as the GBA and PS2. Hunter x Hunter, despite being 'recent' hasn't gotten any games other than a PSP title. They could release a YYH game and it'd still sell.
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>>384952747
>tfw all I wanted was Frieza, Cell, and Krillin
Anyone else is just icing on the cake.
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>>384952168

Faulconer's music is in an iffy spot legally, but if Namco cuts him a check you could expect Cell's theme and maybe even a brand new remix of Vegeta's gomad theme.
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>>384944548
I'm pretty worried about auto-combos, they seem to be way more prevalent here than in other games. I don't want this game to be stylish mode.
No one even likes auto-combos, even the most casual people I know refuse to use them
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>>384952747
You're more surprised at Kid Goku making it than Kid Trunks and Goten?
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>>384951249
>Wanting more normies to get into the series so they can not read the manga and regurgitate gay memes every chance they get

Kys jojobrony
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>>384951556
>anime cloths

no thank you, you can see Toei just wanted to make it sentai
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>tfw no OPM action game where you create your own hero and fight monsters alongside other heroes to climb the ranks of the Hero Association
Who's dick I gotta suck to get this to happen?

I just wanna bro it up with this based motherfucker.
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>>384950875
I want him to impregnate my anus.
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>>384952854
>Faulconer's music is in an iffy spot legally
???

not that anon, but what's the deal about that? I've always read comments on YT talking about it. Was the music plagiarized or something? because I read the same thing with the pre-Buu saga Kai music as well.
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>>384952995
Leave.
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>>384952906
Yes. Any OG Dragon Ball person has much less of a chance to get in than a Z character.
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>>384952334
Boku no Pico really wouldn't translate into a fighter well. It's also shit, but that's another issue entirely.
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>>384944929
>didn't realize that the whole point of fem broly's character is for broly references

how slow are some of you
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>>384950875
>teen gohan is an edgelord trained by a demon and gets stronger the more mad he is
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>>384953038

People accuse him of plagiarism (And there is a case to be made but it's not provable) but that's irrelevant to the legality issues. he owns all the music so they would have to relicense it, and I doubt he would be very gracious about it because he's kindof an asshole.
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>>384953038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_sXOquzxps

>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31488
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>>384953182
>trained by a demon
Slugman
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>>384944548
I don't really agree on the fact that he thinks because it's dragon ball suddenly all people are going to get interested in FG. Fighting games need time and work there is no instant gratification with FG, things that most "normie" non fg players want. Another thing he talked about was the fact that fg are games where you can only blame yourself when you lose thats is 100% true but non fg players don't want that look at games like dota CS lol etc they love to blame mistakes on other it's easier, again fgs need time and work and unless they want to put in that time and that work, it will only remai that "game that we wer hyped about that time, played a bit and got our destroyed so we never rally bothered again".
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>>384951693
They're so hard to play but I keep on buying them.
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>>384952642
JoJo has been infested by anime-only memesters who spout JoJo quotes everywhere. You see it all the time on FB and YouTube. Reminds me of how Family Guy was when I was in Middle School.
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>>384953016
Perhaps in future time, there will end up being a OPM game.
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>>384950430
We already had ASB though
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>>384953213
Didn't they use Faulkners Vegeta theme in super? I think it was during the first tournament
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>>384953291
oh god no
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>>384953016

They could have it start as a one-on-one brawler type game that evolves into a Yakuza style multi-man beat em up with occasional bosses.

Eventually it would become a Musou style mass killing simulator where you destroy armies of baddies as you get more powerful with super powerful bosses that you have to team up with other heroes for.
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>>384953384
Please anon, you know he wasn't into JoJo when that came out.
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>>384953087
I think OPM has a good chance as well desu. There's enough characters you can get in to please most people without pissing off 90 percent of the fanbase unlike JoJo or One Piece. The only caveat is that saitama should not be playable.
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>>384944548
This guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
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>>384953430

No.
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>>384953384
That was a weird kind of fighting game though.
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>>384953384
I'm sure he meant a good one.
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>>384953625
It was really fucking good. Best fanservice I've ever seen in a video gane. Japs gave it a perfect 40/40.
>>384953680
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>>384953273
The biggest thing that can stop this from doing really well among normies, which is obvious what this game is trying to do, is if the roster is really tine or sub 20. Normies love games with huge rosters, not even tenkaichi big, but something like MKX or Injustice 2. I do think the DB brand does help it somewhat, but I don't think that'll carry it like so many people are expecting. Look at Super DBZ people hated that, whether or not it was a quality game is another thing, but most people saw the tiny roster and bailed. Games like Xenoverse will always be more popular desu. I do think this still has a chance to sell well though, but not sure how well.
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>>384944548
It will not be interesting competitively. Power levels mean same few characters who can actually be viable in a fighting role. People will tire of it fast. Only kappa autists will still support it.
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>>384952747

Videl, pure Buu and Vegito all have a decent likelihood of getting in I think

Videl because theres got to at least be a couple of female characters and she's popular
pure Buu because its the final form of a major villain and the other final forms are already in
Vegito because he has unique moves and is an important character
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>>384953862
>Games like Xenoverse will always be more popular desu. I do think this still has a chance to sell well though, but not sure how well.
Yeah that's definitely true, games like tenkaichi are hugely popular because tons of characters giant arenas etc even if characters are 90% clones it doesn't really matter it's easy to play and quickly rewarding. But aside from that on the selling part there is no way to know how well the game will go we just have to hope
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>>384953680
HD is the better fighting game but ASB is absolute fanboner fuel to the nth degree
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>>384953457
Fuck off, I've been reading the manga before the anime. ASB sucks, too.
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>>384954282
>ASB sucks

Confirmed not fan
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>>384954464
The fanservice was cool, but I can only sit there and watch so many 30 second special moves between minutes of slow, clunky gameplay and then try to convince myself it was $60 well spent.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384954268
I think the best thing people can hope for is a healthy player base on consoles and PC where you don't have to go on discord to find a match in a year or two. And it dethroning SFV as an esport, though with the amount of money capcom does to make sure SFV stays alive I doubt it. It needs actual known players to play this for it to have huge viewership.
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>>384953781
Of course it had godtier fanservice but that can only get you so far is your games combat is so weird yet stylin
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>>384954684
>Slow and clunky

Get good?
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>>384954775
Statements don't require question marks.
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STILL NO NEW EPISODE OR VO FOR DBFZ BY THEM.
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>>384953862

I'd think it'd only be enthusiast autists that would get upset about a small roster. Especially since pretty much all the mainstays from the anime that people remember are already there or nearly inevitable (Tien, 18, etc.) People that are obscure movie character X or no buy are in threads like this and not really among the "normie" audience. If it's not popular it's because it has the same failing as all other fighting games in that you need to sink a lot of time into them to get an idea of what you're doing. Many (including me) will be inspired to climb that wall, but it's still not going to be anywhere near as successful as pickup and play DBZ simulators.
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>>384954880
>watching TFS
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>>384954724
Honestly i kinda hate all the e-sport thing because it locks down the players to playing only what has big money in it and restraining them from discovering or investing time in new shit, it's sort of unfair to lesser known games even when they're good, just because they don't promise you a "pro tour" and some fine amount burger bucks and the end they get ignored.
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>>384954884
I actually do think it should have at least 20 characters starting. Anything is way too small especially since each character is probably less complex than a Guilty Gear character with less movesets. It'd be kind of understandable if it's just 1v1, but it'd be really annoying if it's 3v3 with that small of a roster.
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>>384944548
That game looks trash
MVCI looks better
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384944548
nobody cares about your youtube channel, faggot.
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>>384951693
Big pro/con is that each game has a shitload of core systems that give you benefits in both offensive and defensive play. There are a bunch of little things to take in, but that variety of options means you have the more ways to push back against pressure or pile on more pressure. Put up a stronger defense with both Barrier and just-guarding to avoid chip damage and reduce your blockstun, break out of combos and counterattacks, spend your meter in a number of ways for multiple cancels, unblockables, etc.

Inputs for the basics are surprisingly lenient and you'll usually be able to learn to execute a lot of your character's bread and butter things easily. There's also a lot of flexibility when it comes to combos, you don't need to do the same shit over and over.

You'll find that compared to something like SF or KOF, most attacks are actually slower in GG or BB. For example, the startup of fast normals in SF are in the 2-to-5 frame range. A fast normal in BB is usually around six frames, rarely lower. This carries on to bigger attacks, a heavy attack in BB ends up taking a lot longer than a heavy normal in SF. Comparatively, GG/BB goes with slightly slower but further reaching attacks, and gives characters a lot more mobility and movement speed. The slower attacks help with being able to track the action and gives you wider windows for inputs.

In contrast to the easy inputs, there are more complex actions that need tight execution, especially if you want to get into jump cancel combos of any significant length. Not too big a deal given the combo damage reduction is pretty steep, it's mostly for style points.

The design of ArcSys fighting games is "put in as many systems as possible so players have options for any situation." It usually ends up working, the many options both in the game system and in each character's moves giving way to a much greater freeform diversity in playstyles.

Also best tutorials in the genre.
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>>384955483
sounds like alot to take in but i might get the hand of it.
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>>384955483
i thought Skullgirls had the best tutorials
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>>384955224

It'll probably be either 18 or 21 on release. Guess it depends on how generous they want to be since they'll inevitably have to leave some stuff for DLC. But even with 18 you'll have most of the high profile characters there in the game, after that you'd have to start getting into stuff like more obscure Ginyu force members or transformation/fusion versions of characters.
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>>384954972
Its a guilty pleasure.
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>>384955771
I just personally hope the main roster has a good mix of main choices alongside the few characters that never really get a chance to shine.
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base roster is either 22 or 24, no less
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>>384955908
Yeah same. Obviously fan favorites and staples have priority, but I'd be happy to see one or two obscure or unconventional picks.
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>>384949619
SSB starts out as powerful as SSJ1, it just has the capacity to go above SSJ3
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>>384944548
Does anyone still care about that mugen fighter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hic1az17dzs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3PjDLGnfvs

I want to play Gotenks and Super Buu already.
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>>384955908

I am wondering if they'll put someone like Nail in the game. Would be cool to have another Namekian in the game and he did at least have a relevant fight in the show. Honestly I'll be happy with the mainstays either way though.
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>>384956285
pedroshit
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>>384956285
When the fuck are they doing Perfect Cell?
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384954972
Yes, they are very good. ITs better than the original dub and kai.

The only people who dislike it are the Paco's.
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>>384956484
The character pool is too big he's got a chance to be in but let's face it it's super low, there are going to be disappointed people no matter what let's just hope they make the best choices
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>>384944548
Just hope to god that it has a decent sized roster. The success of Dragon Ball games has always rested on having large rosters of playable characters.

If DBFZ releases with less than 20 playable fighters then it will never not be a niche game after the novelty period wears off.
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>>384956484
Nail? never gonna happen
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>>384956728
What about on it's second rerelease it has more than 30 characters, or is that too late? I'm actually worried about arc sys rereleases, I'm pretty sure that'll tick off a lot of people.
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>>384956728
If you're hoping for a tenkaichi like huge roster you're going to be disappointed, probably 30 characters max
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>>384950430
One Piece has a better chance than Jojo.
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>>384956484
He's a weird character to use, but the only Namekian in the game will no doubt be Piccolo. It doesn't help that he looks extremely similar to Piccolo too. Like how Turles or Goku black does to Goku.

I'm still miffed that Tao's deconfimed. I hope the DB representatives aren't just Tien and Krillin and those count as DB reps, but guys like Jackie Chun, Kid Goku etc.
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>>384952747
>Kid Trunks over Kid Goku
Just gimme both.
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>>384956976
>One Piece, JoJo, BNHA, and HnK get into BB Cross
>Gum Gum Gattling vs ORAORAORA vs PLUS ULTRA vs ATATATATATA
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>>384956874
Well obviously we can't expect Tenkaichi size roster in an Arcsys game. The Tenkaichi games managed to have a roster the size that they have by reentlessly re-using character animations, super moves and other assets for multiple characters to save time and money. You can't get away with that in a 2D fighter without people complaining and Arcsys don't do that in their games.

Frankly 30 fighters would be fantastic, like I said, it just needs to hit that 20 fighter benchmark to avoid being niche. If it's more than 20 fighters I think it will be fine.
>>384956846
I'm worried about that too, Dragon Ball fanbase isn't used to Arcsys' style of "release the same game 5 times with each new release adding a few extra fighters and some story bits" and I think it might piss them off if it happens.
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>>384944548

I think people are severely overestimating the power of the DBZ brand here.

Yeah, I think the game has a lot of crossover appeal, and you're going to get a lot of different people playing it.... in the FGC. But casuals who like Dragon Ball have six thousand other games they can play. I still play Tenkaichi 3 with my boys when we're bored. DBFZ is going to launch with, like, 16 characters in a tag game. That's already a really fucking small number in general, but add it to a tag game and it's straight up pathetic. You already have people on this board crying about now shit tier characters like Yajirobe and Hercule, that's only going to be amplified by casuals who want to know

>Why's the roster so small?
>Where's Broly? Where's Cooler? Where's the entire Ginyu force?
>Why is this game in 2D?
>What the fuck are these controls?
>Where's all the Super stuff?

I think it will help bring a lot of SFV players over to anime fighting games, at least for a few months until people who actually have a clue about the basics of anime make them want to drop the game. But anyone who thinks this is going to be a million seller that makes the FGC balloon is retarded.
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>>384957331
>United States of Smash vs Grizzley Magnum
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>>384957472
>Where's Broly
Dude they literally put Broly in fucking everything as the sole movie character over characters like Cooler and Lord Slug.
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>>384957575
I'm an anime-only shitter when it comes to BNHA and have only heard about United States of Smash in passing
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>>384944548
I was hyped for this game until they started talking about how some characters will be weaker than others. That mostly killed my excitement.
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Guilty Gear is THEE anime fighter and it is very unlikely that any other anime fighter is going to replace it.

The only reason Blazblue had its hours of fame was before Xrd was around.

The only crowd that it could get is the Marvel crowd and that is going to be very dependent on how much Capcom supports Infinite
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>>384957331
Fuck it. Just get ArcSys to create the next Jump Ultimate Stars game.
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>>384957331
>>384957575
You fucking idiots i'm just laughing like crazy imaginig that giant clusterfuck of a fight hahahahaha
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>>384957753
Anon, i jumped onto the BNHA manga right when Midoriya got his shit kicked in my Todoroki and i can tell you, US of SMASH and its entire arc was so satisfying.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384957472
I agree with the meat of your post but

>implying Broly won't be in
>implying it won't have at least 20 characters at launch
>implying normies won't be wowed by the graphics (I showed this to my friend who hates anime and dbz and even he was impressed with how it looked)

Also do normies even watch Super? Hell I bet most don't even want Super in
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-San!
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>>384951031
arigato gozaimasu gokuu-sa!!~~
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>>384957881
How close is the anime to it?
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>>384951183
Content
>no arcade mode
>no lobbies
>no proper system to punish rage quitters
>no story mode
>no spectator mode
>only like 10 characters

Capcom literally sold an early access game for $60.

Gameplay
>stupidly easy combos with retarded high damage
>no defensive options beside burning recources on a V-reversal or wakeup Ex-dp
>only like 3 canned combos per character
>V-trigger made easy to hit-confirm and take like 60% of your life in a single combo
>combos require no timing or skill whatsoever. You can literally mash anything out in this game no joke. Example below:

https://www.eventhubs.com/images/2017/may/28/fchamp-demon-demon/

>every character in the game was made for rush down, so no unique playstyles in this game
>50/50's up your ass, in this game almost everything is a 50/50 I shit you not
>retardedly long corner carry
>once in the corner prepare for the corner throw loops because fuck you. Just take a random guess to get out

And I could go on but there is no point because if you know shit about fighting games then you won't understand why SFV is literally one of the worst fighting games ever made. This game was made for retards if you ask me... Or for people who like gambling and high luck/low skill kinda games.
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>>384956164
>SSB starts out as powerful as SSJ1
Nigga go fuck yourself.

SSG is stronger than SS3, so SSGSS (SSB) should be even stronger than that.
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>>384953182
You realize all saiyans use anger to make them go super, right?
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>>384957472
People might be overestimating DB's pull here, but I mean it's only fair. That show was so dominant at it's time. Hell is it the most popular show ever aired in CN that isn't Family Guy?
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>>384957472
This is what I said before, DBFZ is a cool concept but it really needs to launch with a bigger roster than Arcsys is generally known for if it's going to be successful.

The problem is that DBFZ is different than other DBZ fighters because it's 2D. Each fighter has to have a unique feel and playstyle using this format so designing a large roster of characters becomes quite hard to do. Games like the Tenkaichi series have such massive rosters by copy-pasting many of their animations for things like movement, basic attacks and even super moves, which is something DBFZ simply can't do because it's designed using a more serious fighting game format that requires characters to feel unique and mechanically different.
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>>384957862
half of these were sorta fixed but it doesnt excuse the mistake of the beginning of SFV when servers were run off of rotten potatos and Rage quitters could keep a 100 streak.
>>384958046
Well since the anime just got to the Stain fight, i would say maybe 24+ episodes since you gotta get to the Lounge arc
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>>384958079
No,

SSB is regular ki + god ki

SSG is pure god ki

SSB starts at SS1 and goes all the way up to the highest he can go, that's the point.
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>>384951031
"Thank you Goku-san!"
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>>384958174
>Ichigo

shame how that turned out.
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>>384958219
Fucking retarded mangafags.
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>>384958361
Did you really expect much from a dude named Strawberry?
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>>384958361
Kubo isn't really good at writing a scenario he just wants to draw cool shit
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>>384958419
Its not Manga, if SSB was that strong, he'd be stronger than beerus.
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>>384958516
SSB is that strong though, that's the entire point.

>he'd be stronger than beerus.
Not really. I mean, he's getting another new form this arc.
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>>384958516
manga Blue Vegito is already at Beerus level
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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i think you guys might be underestimating DB world wide popularity
almost every console DBZ game has been a best seller since Budokai
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>>384958713
Its not.

SSB be default is just SSJ1, but it can go up to wherever goku has trained his god ki.

So according to the show that is SSG+KK.
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>>384952918
a Series is shit because it got more popular outside japan even though it is one of the top 10 most selling manga in japan and it's creator is heavily respected
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>>384958824
>SSB be default is just SSJ1
SSB is SS1 with god ki, which is exponentially more powerful than regular ki.

So SSB > any regular SS form.
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>>384958958
Goku doesn't have 100% god ki.
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>>384958809
I don't think anyone's understimating it's popularity. Some are just skeptical that slapping a DBZ brand name on a fighter, despite being good of course, automatically means it goes on to do smash numbers. Would Pokken be a good gauge to see how well this would sell cause that was a "serious" pokemon fighter with a limited roster?
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>>384958970
Your point being?

SSB is Goku's strongest form. This is fact.
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>>384957472
What if it gets a xrd rev tier tutorial?

Actually teach people how to be gud? If this ends up being a casual friendly fighter(which many have said it's easy to pick up and play) then I think it will retain alot of players. As a Tenkaichi 3 fanboy myself I love this game because the roster is so small. It doesn't need to be a cluster fuck character game with gameplay as anime as possible, I can play Tenkaichi 3 or self insert with xenoverse 2.

This game has potential to set itself apart and add diversity to dbz games.
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Arcsys makes good games.
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>people think this game won't sell at least 3 million
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>>384959060
Not anymore.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384959060
For now. The whole point of a Saiyan is that they always get stronger. There is literally no cap to their power.
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>>384959112
I also think the graphics are going to impress a lot of normies. I'm still wowed by how aesthetic some of the ultimates look, when they see Cell's Solar Kamehameha or Gohan's Father Son, they'll be shitting their pants.
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>>384952559
Jesus Christ how does a human being end up in this state? Being a retard "ironically" is just being a retard.
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>>384959112
>What if it gets a xrd rev tier tutorial?
Not him, but are Xrd's tutorials really that good?

I'm absolute trash at fightan games. Will they teach me to not suck?
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>>384959112
>What if it gets a xrd rev tier tutorial?
>Actually teach people how to be gud?
That's something you need to understand, just the tutorial won't make you "gud", the tutorial can't teach you that much, you'll have to gou out there and get your ass kicked and learn the hard way, that's the thing with fighting games this is the part that has no workaround and that keeps people away from them.
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>>384953291
So basically just >>384952730 then?
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>>384959205
Why is the hair for this form so fucking weird?

Its like half-way between normal and SS1. Its a mess.
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>>384953439
Yeah. It's the most popular show on Toonami. It's had one of the fastest first season premiers to second season premiers I've ever seen.
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>>384958925
A series is shit because its fanbase is a bunch of autistic 12 year olds
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>>384959283
They'll teach you the basic fundamentals of fighting games, which you absolutely need to know. But it'll take a lot more experience to not suck.
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>>384959245
They can't get zenkai boosts because they've trained their bodies to their limit though. Would say frieza is a being closer to limitless power than the saiyans
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>>384959271
Struck a cord, huh?
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what's that capcbros you think dbfz is better than marvel? say that again
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>>384959693
No, I mean that Saiyans get exponentially stronger as time goes on. The limitless power doesn't take the form of a well of energy can can just reach into on command. It just means that they don't have an upwards limit of how much they can improve.
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>tfw realize the SNES Butoden games were hot garbage
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>>384959834
>falseflagging and starting a needless fight in a DBZF thread
Mahvel boy here, im trying to look on the bright side with MvCi having shitty visuals but still good controls AND im willing to play an Arcsys game for the first time. please stay civil Napapapap
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>>384959834
Nobody likes Capcom kappashitter. Its just that some of us don't go into a blind autistic rage whenever someone mentions their fighting games.
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>>384944548
No Vegito no buy
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>>384951078
>Its better than both DB and JoJoshit.
geg
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>>384959627
>a product is bad bevause of the people who consume it
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People keep saying that DBZ games all sell multi millions but never prove it with a source.
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>>384956612
>wanting perfect cell and not imperfect cell
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>>384951078
Yusuke is a fuccboi
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>>384960119
You JoJofags couldn't sound any more like Bronies right now. We truly have come full circle. So if the series was any good than why do only retards like it?
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>>384960131
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/12742/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3/
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>>384960060
>Vegito
He's cool and all, but as a fightan character would be pretty bland.

Would rather have Gotenks and all his flashy moves.
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>>384959330
True and it kept me away except if I went to an arcade. But I watched evo this year for the first time ever thanks to dbfz. I will never be the same. The meyagame of the fighting world looks so interesting. All I need is the basics and I'll explore the rest myself. I plan to play this as early as possible
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>>384960196
Sorry, what?

>>384960098
Fuck outta here, Caulifag.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384960376
>most of japan is retards
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>>384960376
>why do only retards like it?
It became popular in the west.
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>>384960376
>only a small group of retards like it
>one of the most popular series in Japan ever
>one of the most popular shows on Toonami
The only people who act like retards about it are the falseflaggers.
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>>384959060
At max power, of which he doesn't usually use it at max.
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>>384953384

I honestly forgot that game was a thing. I'm pretty sure that has just as much brand power as DBZ, too.
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>>384959986
I just wanting an excuse to post that image. It's hard to come up with a good context for that.
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>>384960425
>Gotenks Ghosts have their own hit box
>Gotenks Ghosts fight along side you until they explode
>If you have Piccolo as a partner, you can do VolleyBuu attack
would be neat
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>>384960565
>Most of Japan likes JoJo

Fucking ebin jojokid
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glad to know a thread about video exists so I don't have to make one for this question, since this video got me interested
I want a casual anime fighting game, can anyone recommend a good one?
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>>384960435
If you keep on with that mindset then nothing will be impossible, learn to suffe,r go through the depths of the tier lists keep on going and someday it will pay you will feel more comfortable playting and picking up new games, and you'll learn more and be a better player, turn that beginner neverending looking defeat cycle and make it a virtuous one
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384960649
I didn't say small, just stupid. JoJo hasn't been popular in Japan since part 5, even with the anime. Look up the viewership numbers.

>People who watch Toonami aren't 12 year old retards

what
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>>384960540
>1 good arc
>rest of the show is mediocre
there's a reason why no one cares about yyh
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>>384960706
You couldve just said bald is beautiful or say shit like
>his hair grows longer during ssj3 and not his mustache
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>>384960376
>not using the term horsefucker
>actually capitalizing brony

Looks like we got a containment breach. But at least try to hide your falseflagging, okay? But yeah, it's pretty strange how jojo fucking exploded.
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>>384956624
>Better than Kai dub
Maybe on a few voices, but overall there was nothing wrong with Kai's dub.
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>>384960921
Thanks for the encouragement, another reason fgc is growing on me
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>>384960649
Literally read the comment section of any Youtube video about JoJo. Have of it is LE FUNNY JOJOKE XD or equivalent. The anime was a mistake.
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>>384961246
>nothing wrong with Kai's dub.
sabat's vegeta sucks
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>>384960423
Vgchartz is not a fucking source. I want sales info from the mouth of the publisher. Vgchartz makes up their numbers ahve have no source for the shit they come up with.
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>>384961260
You're welcome we've all been there i remember my first sets with some friends where i was called the bonus stage and suffered some 35-36 to zero haha good old times
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>>384961230
>Trying this hard to fit in
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>>384960761
>9th most selling manga in japan creator is friends with multiple other famous manga artists jojo referenced in tons of anime and manga
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>>384961379
kys my man
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>>384961357
But you're missing my point: A product isn't bad because of the quality of its audience.
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>>384960890
>casual anime fighting game
Casual as in to play alone or with friends? I don't see much sense on the former, but if the later I guess anything can be played casually if you aren't being a tourneyfag.
On steam you have Guilty Gear, Blazblue, Melty Blood, UNIEL, Arcana Heart 3, Skullgirls, Nitroplus Blasterz, Yatagarasu, etc.
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>>384961357
>Youtube comment section
Half of the youtube comment section of any Youtube video about anything is retarded idiots spouting stupid crap and "LE FUNNY JOKE XD"
That has nothing to do with Jojo and everything to do with Youtube commenters being retarded mongoloids.
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>>384961379
Sabat sucks*
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>>384961706
my friend wants me to play a fighting game with him but the only one we have is skullgirls and I hate that game.
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>>384959454
It looks kinda like his SS4 hair without the mullet.
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>>384948565

>He's also extremely delusional in thinking that DBFZ could be as successful as shit like Smash.
>somehow the most iconic anime series on the PLANET is not going to get the attention it deserves in the FGC
>even though it faithfully renders the graphics to a superior level (in comparison to the show's visual aesthetic) that's also combined with a combat system people around the world enjoy
>delusional

It's the opposite, DBFZ is going to be a success.
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>>384961692
I know what you're saying. Its the exact same argument Bronies used to make. You really didn't develop any better argumentative techniques since you migrated? C'mon man.
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>>384961587
Araki also collabed with Gucci a few years back and had an exhibition at the Louvre a few years back. He's probably the only mangaka who actually "feels" like a celebrity.
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>>384961713
You see the same thing on Facebook and other normie social media. It has everything to do with the JoJo fanbase.
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>>384961979
>two different people used the same argument, which means they're basically the same person
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>>384951031
Thank You Goku-san!
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Arcsys has traditionally made terrible rank schemes. New players have to be able to find sets with other new players if you want the game to actually get popular.

As bad as the game is, SFV has come the closest to a functioning rank system. They're still trying to roll their own dumb rating algorithm instead of using a standard one developed for chess, but it's better than SF4's was. They still have no means to search lobbies by skill rating. But it works okay overall. Arcsys has had nonsensical rating systems where you can do nothing but lose and still rank up and backwards gameable matchmaking.
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>>384961587
Is there any manga / anime referenced more than Jojo? Dragon Ball is all i can think of.
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>>384951031
Thank You Goku-san!
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>>384961976
How much did the Marvel vs Capcom games sell? I mean you got guys like Spiderman, Wolverine, Magneto, Dr Doom, etc in them but were they doing Smash numbers? It's definitely going to be succesful for a fighting game but I doubt it's going to be a best seller.
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>>384961979
amateur
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>>384960761
It's like Seinfeld. Everyone knows it and it's sort of just become a part of culture even if you've never seen the show/read the manga.
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>>384962190
JoJofags and bronies are pees in a pod.

>Everything has to be seen through the lense of JoJo (Le JOJO REFERENCE)
>Cancerous maymays that infest every corner of the internet
>Horrifying fanbase
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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Nah, it looks kind of fun, but everything is animated at a really low and choppy framerate that's to get past, and even if you do, 2D fighters are a mostly dead genre for a reason
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>>384962735
So how long you been apart of the Japanese culture Ken-sama?
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>>384962641
maybe one piece and Naruto.
but thats mostly cause its shonen
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>>384958048
This
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>>384961976
You're seriously delusional if you think this game will sell as well as Smash. Hell, DBZ games aren't even that fucking pupular. Xenoverse was probably one of the best selling DBZ games in the history of the franchise and Bandai Namco only stated how much the game shipped (3 million) they never actually told anyone how many copies sold through to customers. Not only that, but that 3 million includes sales.
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>>384962878
>the internet doesn't exist and you can't see how often a series influences other media in another country
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>>384963108
>He believes the JoJo reference meme

smuganimegirl.png
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>>384962962
Perfect Cell is cute
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>>384948565
don't associate smash with fighterZ
we don't want that autism over here
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>>384962762
>Dragon ball is bad because new fans Boku no Hero Academia is bad because new fans
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>>384958127
tingly feeling
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>>384961357
>comment section of any Youtube video
Why would you even do this?
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>>384963227
persona is literally just one big jojo reference
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>>384963040
People like to think that because it's Dragon Ball and is actually a traditional fighter that it will sell billions and billions and be a massively popular success but they're forgetting that by in large fighting games are a niche market that normally dont sell very well. A couple million at best. Anime fighters in particular are lucky to get even that much. Not counting Smash the most successful fighters in recent years have been NRS games.
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>>384951031
Thank you Champa-sama!
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>>384944929
>Broly actually has a personality in his first movie, albeit shallow, and loses all of it in the second and third movies
>Kale is literally just what memers think Broly is
Oh well. The fight was pretty good at least, despite some iffy compositions.
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>>384963227
One thing is being a retard and trying to force the minimum detail into a reference, which of course only became a thing when it became more popular in the west, but denying that it has indeed influenced a lot of works is being delusional, most of the real references are pretty evident.
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>>384963471
this is selling at least 1.5 mi
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>>384963606
As far as fighting games haircuts go, count in guile as another reference
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>>384963471
>A couple million at best.

That's a lot...
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>>384963674
Prepare to be surprised.
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>>384963471
I miss the 90s when fighters were dominant. I really want this to be a huge success, but I do think yeah people are being blinded by the dbz brand name when dbz games don't even sell that well normally.
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>>384963571
>people try to say broly is a retard who only screams KAKAROT in the first movie even though he only says it about 4 times
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>>384963571
well kale had somewhat of a personality the first time she transformed
the more the character uses that transformation the more retarded the user becomes
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>>384963308
Dragon ball has some chill fans, Boku No Hero seems like a redditors series though.
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>mfw people still think Super won't make it into the game
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>>384963706
Guile is actually a reference to Stroheim, and Juri to Jolyne.
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>>384963471
A couple million would be a pretty big success, no?
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>>384961246
>crap music that ruins the tension
>feels tryhard
>not fun

Remember when american anime companies fucking localized shit? What happened to that.
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>>384963727
That's average for any triple A release. For a fighting game yeah that's a lot. Most anime fighters dont reach that until multiple re-releases or a year or so.
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>>384963856
it won't, sequel bait
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>>384954880
Lani is legit worse than DSP when it comes to gaming, and his buttbuddies are too gay to call him out on his bullshit, showing they're not really close friends at all as friends wouldn't mind having their bullshit called out on them if their bond is strong enough.

Eat a dick for supporting these faggots.
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>>384963856
It's called Dragonball Fighter Z, not Dragonball Fighter Super.
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>>384963829
boku no hero is somthing i would watch when i get bored of anime im currently watching
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>>384963857
And Rose to lisa lisa
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>>384963706
Is Gerald from Hey Arnold a jojo reference?
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>>384963856
>mfw people think Dragon ball charcacters will make it in
its not fair, i want my Eighter
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>>384963879
It'd be huge, especially for a Dragon Ball game. Capcom fighters regularly make that much. I think even SFV which has been a travesty of a release has over a million by now.
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>>384963775
>almost all of those are before he transforms
>the only time he yells that isn't him exerting himself during an attack is when he cums ki everywhere and when he explodes at the end
It also doesn't help that Budokai 3 had his 2nd movie version with no brain.
>>384963787
I fucking guess since there's no proof to the contrary. I just wish that her transformation was spurred from thinking she was useless and going on a rampage to eliminate people for her sis. Instead she just screamed "SON GOKU!" the whole time before being btfo.
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>>384963961
bodikai games had gt characters
and dragon ball characters
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>>384963961
>It's called Dragonball Fighter Z
no it isn't.
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>>384944548
I wish it did, but no. This game is probably going to either replace GG/BB or die withing a few weeks.
Most fighting game players are huge Capcbros and will flock back to MvCI despite how shitty it is because it is Capcom, major tournaments will also completely ignore this game after the initial hype in place of more Capcom shit. It happened before, and it will keep happening for a long time.
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>>384964097
>Which has been a travesty

You may not like the gameplay and sales didn't meet expectations, but Capcom still made bank on that game with DLC etc. Its also the most popular fighter professionally, like it or not. Don't know where this "travesty" meme comes from.
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>>384963961
>Dragonball Fighter Z
FighterZ, the Z is part of the word, but it doesn't mean other parts can't be used, or is Budokai Tenaichi 3 called Z&GT?

>>384964023
Nah, I doubt he was called Polnareff by the dev team like Benimaru.
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>>384964184
Doesn't Namco also plan to support this and have it's own protour like Capcom t hough?
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>>384964184
What is this kappa meme where people have some sort of brand loyalty to Capcom? Everybody and their fucking mom hates Capcom. The only people who like them are shills who literally get payed to.
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>>384964158
>dicasty posting in a DBZF thread
this isnt /a/ but its still a good list
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>>384963857
>Jolyne is best JoJo
>Juri is best Street Fighter
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>>384964360
There are plenty of people who still defend Capcom's fighting games for free, both inside and outside competitive, altough the competitive ones are likely to get paid for it, yes. It is just how things tend to go down, see SFV, it is shit and even pro players hate it, but it still gets all the attention due to brand name alone, no matter how good the competition is, it will always go back to Capcom because they are that dominant in the FG market.
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>>384964360
>Everybody and their fucking mom hates Capcom.
Yet everybody still plays nothing but Street Fighter V and every other fighting game is dead. Everybody hates Capcom, but nobody stops playing Capcom games either despite shit talking them constantly. Sadly, that poster is right.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384964226
>Unfinished games being released at full price arent travesties
It's becoming the norm but please try and stave off the cancer, not embrace it.
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Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384951312
LINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!! Anon give me the link plz or I will die!
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>>384964483
>Jolyne is best JoJo
close but not cigar. Her Part was fucking great though
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>>384964702
I'm waiting until Part 8 is finished for me to officially rank Josuke. I really like him, though.
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>>384959283
They literally made platforming minigames and small beat-em-up stages to help people learn movement and stuff like the magic series.
There's also a lot of character specific stuff, like move inputs, ok combo routes etc.
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>>384951312
You mean 3 days left until beta sign ups open.
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>>384964674
Don't think there's a registration site yet, and if there is hasn't been made public, so I guess checking Bamco's twitter often is the best option to know anything for now.
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>>384964841
hes such a goofy murderer, what also helps is that his part is batshit insane.
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Best girl when.
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>>384964550
>>384964557
Capcom is not their games. You can like a companies games and still hate the company. Nobody is saying "I have to play this game because Capcom made it!" they play it because they think they'll have fun.
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>>384963489
You're funny
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>>384965085
So does this mean I can like UMVC3 but hate MVC:I?
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>>384964841
>Joseke

His name is Gappy normalfriend
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>>384953046
Should be "kiero" anon. baka
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>>384965174
Duh.
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post more webms of the game
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>>384963961
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>>384957807
You do realize that Guilty Gear is the unpopular one that sells mediocre and that BlazBlue is the one that carries Arcsys right?
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EVO 2018

SFV
MvCI
Tekken 7
DBFZ
BBX
KoFXIV
Injustice 2
Fighting Layer EX
Fantasy Strike
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>>384965294
I want GT Kid Goku Nimbus, Power Pole, and Super Saiyain transformation, Mmmm yeah.
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>>384964572
>Unfinished

There was nothing missing in the initial version of the game which Capcom claimed would be there. Go ahead and look it up.
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>>384965337
I think they already have a lineup for EVO Japan in 2018.
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>>384964998
I really liked when he asked Yasuho to turn around so he could beat the shit out of Fun Fun Fun's user. I haven't read past Blue Hawaii yet, though. Still, Part 8 so far is gonna be wacky in the anime.
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>>384965427
but muh arcade mode
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>>384965337
Injustice will probably be dead by then
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>>384944548
no it won't. because it's a garbage DBZ game and a generic as fuck fighting game.
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>>384965560
t. combofiend
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>>384965451
post the link please
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No but this will!
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>>384965409
Why would Gt Goku use nimbus or power pole?
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>>384965701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIil6IIEyQY
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>>384965713
needs better hitboxes
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>>384965759
Cause they're cool.
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>>384965713
They need to release Tien, Super Buu and Gotenks already. Very curious to see how this game would be with a fully fleshed out roster.
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>>384944548
>Shiller's Basement
Insta-trashed
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>>384946350
Go fuck yourself, weeb fag
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>>384965713
having two gokus and two vegetas was dumb though.
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>>384965713
>mugen
>saving anything
It looks cool, and there's obviously a lot of work put into it, but let's not kid ourselves.
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>>384957047
>I'm still miffed that Tao's deconfimed.

I am still furious about that. what-the-actual-fuck!? Tao not being in is a big no no to DB characters makign it in desu. Fcuk ark system! Next they will say no Hercule Satan........
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>>384965557
Not with the DLC characters it'll get.

I mean, MKX got in 2 EVOs back to back.
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>>384966182
its most likely because he can't fly
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>>384965085
That is not how everyone thinks, sadly. A lot of people genuinely think MvCI and SFV are fine and don't udnerstand why people hate Capcom's decisions.
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>>384951031
thank you goku-san!
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Broly God as a secret boss when?

It was technically from Dragon Ball Z.
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>>384966318
>implying his flying animation wouldn't be him on a log
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>>384964991
Always hated that manlet jobber Krillin but man does he look good in that screenshot. I might be playing him a lot in the beta along with piccolo. They need to add more non saiyans in the game desu. I know 18 will next as the female character and android(probably with 16 or 17). I hope to see that whole human fighters in the game with Yamcha Tien and Roshi/Jacki Chun.
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>>384966319
That and they disregard all of the competition as being inferior without even trying it. That sort of behaviour of blindly defending a brand encourages bad practices against consumers, it is why SFV came out incomplete and why MvCI is clearly cutting corners and is going to be filled with DLC.
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>>384965024
Next reveal for sure anon
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>>384966319
What fantasy land do you live in? Honestly? Twitch chat, 4chan threads, YouTube comments, even the official SF subreddit has tons of Capcom, SFV, and MVC hate.
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>>384959454
He is entering the form. That's not the actual form..
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>>384966464
Agreed Krillin looks really fun from the screenshots. I really hope we get Jackie Chun instead of Roshi, even if they're the same character. I see Jackie Chun as the Mr Karate to Roshi's Takuma.
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>>384954759
>combat is so weird yet stylin

No Jojo ASB2 on PS4 with revamped engine and 60 FPS was such a missed opportunity
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>>384966382
that shit works as an intro but not for everything else
don't get me wrong
i would love tao or other characters that can't fly like roshi or granpa gohan however there are mechanics that don't work with these characters
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>>384966464
>>384967142
>read that Destructo Disc is unblockable and that you can charge it up to be more powerful and throw multiples of them
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>>384967340
Twas a joke, but do you think Kid Goku can work with the nimbus for his flying animation?
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>>384948565
smash 4 sold 5 million and that shit xenoverse game sold 3 million
its not hard to imagine this game selling a shitload
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384967694
Xenoverse shipped 3 million and that 3 million included sales. No one actually knows how well the game sold.
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>>384962720

>How much did the Marvel vs Capcom games sell?

I'll spell it out for you anon: MvC =/= DBFZ. It's that simple, since, the Dragon Ball franchise is loved by all the video-game communities worldwide (despite corporate/fanboy loyalties). It will attract players from Street Fighter, Tekken, GG and Smash to get into the DBFZ experience.

>I mean you got guys like Spiderman, Wolverine, Magneto, Dr Doom

It's not solely about the characters anon. It's about the game-mechanics that appeal to both casual and professional players/spectators within the FGC, not cameos that will make the game a success.

>It's definitely going to be succesful for a fighting game but I doubt it's going to be a best seller.

We'll have to wait and see.
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>>384967694
Smash 4 only sold 4 million on the wii U, you ignorant fool. It sold twice that much on the 3DS. In comparison smash on the wii sold 13 million. Theres no say this game will sell nearly that well.
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>>384967785
they're going to release Xenoverse 2 on the Switch so i'm pretty sure it sold well
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384967987
Xenoverse 2 sold worse than the first game did, which isn't surprising since its a glorified DLC pack that was sold for $60 USD. That also doesn't change anything that I said about Xeno 1.
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>>384966382
Exactly they need to stop with excuses. Another anon had a genius idea for satan where he can disappear leaving smoke and mirror.
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>>384944548
>honestly thinking Dragon Ball FighterZ could be a gateway game for anime fighters

How delusional can you get?
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>>384968250
could you post the sales of Xenoverse 2
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>>384951031

Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384968281
>they need to stop with excuses
There were never excuses, they just denyed his presence in the game, everything else about characters not being able to fly or teleport is just assumptions.
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>>384957841
Only if it had the roster of this game and not Victory Vs.
Also playable Cobra this time.
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>>384968528
There aren't any, but we know worldwide shipments were half as much as Xenoverse 1 and just like with 1, that shipment number includes sales.
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>>384967356
It will probably take 3 seconds to fully charge. Not enough time to pull it off in the heat of combat unless you deploy assists.
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>>384968695
they announced on they twitter that the XV series has over 7million sales
https://twitter.com/dbgame_official/status/879648543912349696
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>>384957472

>wheres all the super stuff

I dunno, I feel like that'd be a legitamate concern, like super is the most relevant thing in dbz in America, so its kinda justified asking that, if not at launch then dlc or whatever
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>>384968864
I think this shows us that most people buy digital now days
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>>384968868
kill yourself
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>>384954880
>Make pokemon Emerald Nuzlocke
>Entire team gets wiped
>reload an old save and upload a new video hoping the audience won't notice
>they do
>shit storm in the comments
>they keep making Nuzlocke episodes and try to pretend it didn't happen
>community keeps calling them out so they eventually release the footage
>then they claim the nuzlocke isn't about wipes it's about the story they're telling with their pokemon
>on a later stream video someone thanks them for uploading the footage and says it redeems the nuzlocke
>they all sit there stone faced as the recording plays before changing the subject
They're fags who can't commit and tried to pull the wool over their audience.
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>>384969017
Well one or two of them are literally gay
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>>384968448
Pretty damn delusional. They should make a scale.
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>>384951556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUhLrA6Fa1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coD3VCXsF68
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>>384965337
KOF probably isn't coming back unless SNK can fund some crazy high pots next year to build incentive.
The game was brand new as far as EVO was concerned, and yet they couldn't get as many players as KI got last year.

EVO-J is a different beast though. It'll probably be at that one.
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>>384968864
Thats worldwide shipments, not sell throughs. Also why are there no stories covering this if its 1 month old?
>>384968965
Shipment numbers include digital sales.
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>>384963943
>biting the hand that feeds
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>>384969424
>Also why are there no stories covering this if its 1 month old?
it was overshadowed by the dlc4 release
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>>384953680
https://youtu.be/gTryNADmSQo?t=726
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>>384958048
honeybee cute slut
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>>384965024
soon
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>>384965713
>DMCA -Namco Bandai
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>>384969541
I highly doubt announcing dlc would completely overshadow an announcement of your game series shipping 7 million copies world wide over the last few years to the point where not even anime game websites comment on it. And that still doesn't change that not only does it not actually say how many copies the game sold, that shipment number includes sales itself. Any time a japanese company talks about shipments that shipment number includes sales.
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>>384951031
Thank you, Goku-San!
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>>384949958
The mistake was annoying Toriyama with "MAKE US MOAR SAIYANS! ALSO MAKE BROLY CANON!" from toei.
To get an optimal toriyama, you need someone to point when he does something stupid.
Not only he will help fixing shit, as he will be eventually portrayed as a great villain in the show.
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>>384969979
the problem is that they gave that announcement the same day the dlc released
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>>384957807
BB is better than GG, though.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384970662
But this changes nothing, we don't know how well the games sold and Xeno2 objectively sold worse than Xeno1 did. Yes, it's getting a re-release on thw switch. No, we don't know how many copies it sold. We know how many copies both games shipped according to Bandai, but they refuse to say how many copies the games sold through to customers.
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>>384952747
I always liked playing Vegito
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>>384971162
on steam XV1 sold like 600k
https://steamdb.info/app/323470/graphs/
and XV2 has like 280k
https://steamdb.info/app/454650/graphs/
no idea about ps4
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Will Gohan have a cuck circle super?
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>>384971449
I meant as a whole, I know about steamspy and you aren't really disproving any of my srguments. 2 sold worse than 1 and shipments include sales, digital included (yes, digital sales on steam as well, obviously) We don't actually know how many copies each game sold because bandai refuses to say it
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>>384957331
All they need to do is add Neptunia characters and it will be the perfect waifu shitter containment game.
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>T-there's no overlap between the Smash and SF community! That's why it's not a fighting game!
Who the fuck cares? How many people who play SF or Tekken play anime fighters? How many people grinding away in KoF are going to pick UNIEL or Blazblue any time soon? Everybody sticks to one fighter because that's the only way you'll get even halfway decent. Sure you might dabble in other games but otherwise if you've played SF your entire life, you're a SF fan through and through.
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>>384951031

"Thank you Goku-san!"
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>>384965329
Guilty Gears numbers have beaten Blazblue in tournaments throughout the entire year.

Unless you mean in Japan but "anime fighter" isn't really a term the applies over there.
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>>384946272
yes

Super is a mistake.

Dragon Ball Multiverse is superior.
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>Tfw I started playing Dragon Ball Fusions again

Goddamn, this game is fun. Currently trying to grind for Bulla and Pan's EX Fusion.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384955760
That was until Revelator.
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>>384972617
>Always played on Citra because I was a lazy poor faggot
>Recently picked up the game legit
>Tfw learning what the Ziku-kan can do for the first time
And that's how a level 70 SSJ3 Broly carried me through the game. Crazy giant bastard.
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>>384958048
>no lobbies
>no proper system to punish rage quitters
>no story mode
>only like 10 characters

What? But we have battle lounges, a proper system to punish rage quitters has been implemented, we got a cinematic story mode last year, and there was 16 characters at launch, mid 20's now.

Still no arcade mode, and everything you said gameplay wise is correct.
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>>384972617
Same, first time I only went halfway through, but this time I actually finished the main story. Now I'm on to do the post game subquests and getting all characters, fuck the recruitment not working some times though, and getting attacks is a pain in the ass, even with play coins.
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>>384951693
Arcsys games are hard as hell to master but they're pretty fun even for casual scrubs.

Check out Guilty Gear Xrd Rev on PS4. It's only $20 and the online is kinda dead but its a pretty good starting point. If you enjoy it you can cop Xrd 2 (most recent GG) for $20 as an add-on.
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>>384973508
launch content is more important than post launch support
even if they implement all the stuff that was missing at launch
people don't forget
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>>384973764
Yeah I get you. Even though they fixed a lot of shit that was dumb at launch, they still fucked up pretty badly and ruined SFV's rep.

The only thing they can really do to save SFV is relaunch it as Super. Not making it a DLC patch or whatever that rumor said.
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>>384944548
NO PIRATE ROBOT NO BUY
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>>384963943

>legit worse than DSP

Nah, he's fine and you're a contrarian faggot. But what else is new around here?
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>>384950875
Remember when Gohan was badass? ArcSys remembers.
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>>384944548
>Mother's Basement

Fucking gross.
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>>384974145
NO GENERAL BLUE, NO BUY!
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>>384974881
Why is a he holding a gun to goku's head? He was shot before and it gave him a migraine.
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>>384976027
He doesn't know that. Dragon Ball Musou where you fight the whole Red Ribbon Army when?
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>>384976027
Because physics work in mysterious ways in the DB universe.
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>>384950991
I do many things I do not enjoy.
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>>384976782
No Janemba No Buy
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384952747
for the love of god just let me play as yajirobe and yamcha
>>
I hate nintendo manchildren so fucking much. Fuck off to your not even a fighting shit game smash.
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>>384977135
>wasting a slot on yajirobe and yamcha
get the fuck out
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384977427
why do you hate fun?
>>
If there is no Black, Fused Zamasu, Hit, Beerus, Caulifla, and Kale, then this game will flop. DB is back at peak popularity with Super, and not including Super staples would be suicide.
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>>384977949
Nah
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>>384944548
>BB still maintains its numbers
>GG almost at 1k at evo and 300-400 man majors for it in the west alone

What needs saving? They've been keeping their communities for awhile now and fuck Western GG has never been better then it is now with players like Bear sending top Japs home at evo.
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>>384944548
So how long until ArcSys gets the rights from Shueisha to make a Shonen Jump All Stars fighting game?
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>>384977291
>calling other people manchildren while throwing a tantrum
That's real cute, kiddo.
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>>384978069
I wouldn't like it desu, sounds like it'd just be a clusterfuck not to mention I hate over half of the shounen they'd use like Naruto or Bleach. They're better of just sticking to one anime IP at a time.
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>>384978069
Fuck that, where's my Shonen Jump Vs. Capcom?
>>
>Best DBZ game of all time
>only 20% complete
how will budokucks ever recover?
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>>384978270
>best dbz game of all time

The legacy of goku games in the gba were pretty fun desu.
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>>384978221
Shonen Jump vs Marvel vs Capcom vs Nintendo never
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>>384978221
Too late for that, Capcom is already dead.
>>
>>384973714
Unless you're in Europe online is only hard to find games in at super early morning hours and even then people are still around. Rev2 is far from dead online in America/Japan.

>>384977949
Nah Hit is literally the only one of those i hope gets in. Otherwise its trash. No one wants your stupid fap bait saiyans. Also
>Kale
Yeah im sure we need shitty female Broly when all the 13 year old faggots will be happy enough with regular Broly.
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>>384978221
>trusting modern Capcom
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>>384978171
>half of the shounen they'd use like Naruto or Bleach.
Bleach stopped being relevant a long time ago, and from Naruto I don't think they would use many characters, not even J-Stars did. Shonen Jump has a big variety of battle manga to choose potential characters from.
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>>384978471
I'd play it if the TvC team made it.
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>>384978546
Are they even around anymore? I'm pretty sure Capcom hasn't made a good game in like a decade already.
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>>384978069
Wouldn't this pretty much be the shounen equivalent of Dengeki Bunko?
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>>384967280
>A missed opportunity
I think you mean the biggest moneysink in vidya, we would've been lucky beyond belief just to get a straight and lazy port of ASB to PS4 whatsoever, not to mention an entire sequel that runs half a damn
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>>384978069

There's a handegg manga?
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>>384978919
yep done by the guy who did the OPM manga Murata.
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>>384950657
>>384951078
Was okay at the time.
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>>384978919
Please go read Eyeshield 21 right fucking now.
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>>384979132

Is it good? Why does the SSJ guy have an AR?
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>>384978513
>Bleach stopped being relevant a long time ago
It's still relevant. The problem is that the West overestimated its popularity. The Big 3 is a myth invented by Gaia. In reality, there never was such a thing as the Big 3 in Japan. It was just Naruto and One Piece that were the flagship titles of Jump. Bleach was still popular, but never on the level of One Piece or Naruto. Bleach is and has always been as popular as Gintama in Japan.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384978513
>>384979525
In any case if a shounen jump all stars game did come to fruition you can bet your ass Ichigo will get in there. also I remember when the big three used to be called the holy shounen trinity
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>>384979347
Overall is great except for the final parts where it kind of felt rushed as far as I remember, but still worth it.
SSJ guy is the team captain, and does whatever he wants.
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>>384979525
>Bleach is and has always been as popular as Gintama in Japan
Except when it fell to the bottom of popularity in Jump and prematurely died.
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>>384944548

Only if had a intro like Final Bout
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>>384979938
The intro was the only good part of that game though. I'd rather get a good game this time around.
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>>384963308
I grew up on DragonBall and I think HeroAca is the shit
>>
>>384951031

Thank you Goku-San!
>>
>>384950657
How about they do another J stars style crossver game but make it not shit
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san
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>>384950657
>>384951556
>both kurama and andromeda were dubbed with a female voice in my country
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-San!
>>
>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!!!
>>
Will this game have goat-tier music?
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>>384979804
>Still believing in the Popularity Polls meme.
The polls only matter for guaging the potential success of new series to Jump so that Shueisha can get a good idea of how much they want to invest in it. After a certain point, the polls don't mean shit and Shueisha pays more attention to graphic novel sales. Bleach ranked low in the weekly polls because the bulk of its fanbase shifted to reading it through the graphic novels, which were still selling high. Also, Bleach ended sooner than expected because Kubo's health deteriorated. His body was so fucking deteriorated that he got sick every week, but he was so fucking determinated that he kept drawing until he literally dislocated his shoulder. All this was confirmed in interviews with Kubo and Shueisha. Look it up.
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>>384980120
No game has yet to surpass that intro.
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>>384981680
an actual bleachfag wow
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>>384981680
>Also, Bleach ended sooner than expected because Kubo's health deteriorated
Bleach ended but Hunter x Hunter is still in. Keep lying to yourself Kubo fag.
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
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>>384981680
Bleach was fucking cancelled you moron.
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>>384951031
"Thank you Goku-san!"
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>>384951031
Thank you Goku-san!
>>
>>384951031

Thank you Goku-san!
>>
>500 posts
Dragon Ball is the best thing that could happen to this shitty, shitposting board
fuck underagefags, fuck moeanimu posters, fuck /a/ in general
long live dbz
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>>384981680
>damage control
People stopped reading it because Kubo didn't get along with his editors and stopped trying. Bleach went to shit because Kubo let it.
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>>384983756
/a/ has like 12 DB threads a day
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