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>Destiny 2 beta is apparently fucking garbage Kek. Can't

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>Destiny 2 beta is apparently fucking garbage

Kek. Can't say I didn't see this coming. Will this game hopefully kill the franchise?
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>>384934760
well i think you're a faggot and i don't believe you
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>>384934919
Its true. Everyone is bitching because they are gutting the PVE content in favor of PVP shit.
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>apparently

i mean woah, who is surprised when the first game sucks dick and the second one is confirmed to be worse.
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>>384935226
Well there was alot of hope that they would learn from their mistakes on the first game and improve on the 2nd one.
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>>384935226
It's not so much that the game is shit, but that even bungie.net and reddit realize it's shit.
You have to work hard to fuck up that bad.
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It's incredibly dull.
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>>384934980
I played the beta. Can you give me some examples of this? I am not disagreeing as they did this with the first game. I didn't have any particular problem with the beta other than it being incredibly short
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>>384934980
>Everyone is bitching because they are gutting the PVE content in favor of PVP shit.

See >>384935353
>learn from their mistakes on the first game and improve on the 2nd one.
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>>384934760
>>384934919
This pretty much summarizes everything wrong with D2 so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuifXvPIE0E
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>>384934760
Nah, normies will buy it again

This game is no better than D1 at all, I can't understand what Bungie was even up to all this time
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>>384934760
>Slower movement
>Weaker weapons
>Worse supers
>Weaker abilities
>Full retard loadout system
>EVEN WORSE writing
All for the sake of muh pvp
Fuck Bungie
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>>384934760
>Destiny 2 beta is apparently fuc-
>apparently
Absolutely cancerous post 10/10
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I played it and honestly

First of all wasn't D1 all about exploration and stuff? I couldn't play with more than 3 people why is it suddendly Halo2-3? Not that I mind it was cool but still

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but is the auto aim hilariously broken?

I now believe that Bungie wanted to keep Destiny around for many years but Activision pushed them into making a rushed second game
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>retards played through the first one when it shoulda died in the first month

nope
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>>384935717
The autoaim has been toned down compared to D1
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>>384935717
Hey! Just like Microsoft
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>My hopes in a good exploration game now lies with Anthem
Hold me
All I want is to have fun with my bros online
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>>384935505
>made cooldowns way longer
>dual primary system
>movement is alot slower
>machine guns removed

Etc
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>>384935505
>weapon slots are fucked; shotties, snipers, and fusions were moved to the "heavy" slot; "special" slot is now just a second primary, with elemental damage
>abilities recharge slow as fuck
>and are incredibly weak
>each instance of a particular piece of gear will have the exact same perks as every other instance of that piece of gear
That's off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more.
PvE got utterly neutered in order to make PvP more standardized--that is, easier for the devs to balance.
It's a complete shitfest. And I'm someone that put over 1500 hours into D1, across PvE and PvP. Bungie have either toned down or outright removed nearly all of the RPG elements, resulting in D2 just being another CoD clone.
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>>384935505
>>384935625
>1:35
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>>384936036
Just play warframe then
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Warframe is worse.
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>>384935692
What are you bitching about you autist
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the beta was good enough that I pre-ordered the digital deluxe edition for 100 bucks. checkmate, haters.
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You are literally playing several version behind the destiny they're working with

They've even said that themselves
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>>384936837
Well until then this is all we have to go on.
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>>384935425
so, like the first game then.
no surprise here
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>>384936613
>doesn't play the game
>makes a thread bitching about it
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>>384936837
this tbqh
>Power ammo PvE droprate much higher in full release
>ability and primary damage against PvE enemies increased
>complaints about cooldowns are retarded because they compare T10+ D1 armour with unmodded D2 gear
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I'm going to legally marry the Failsafe!
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>>384936837
>>384937254
Just like Destiny 1's beta right?

"It's just a beta" excuse gets used for every damn game. The same shit with destiny 1 and infinite warfare and star wars battelfront
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>>384936837
You say that as though playing an updated version of D2 will fix core issues like the retarded new weapon slots or non-randomized rolls on gear.
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It's so bland and generic
Nothing special, I guess people will play it to grind for gear and that's it?
There's not even any level design really, it's just so dull
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post yfw Bungie are complete hacks
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So bungie replaces the most useful titan and warlock subclasses with a reskin of a shitty raid relic for titans and giving warlocks a hammer of sol that's skinned as a sword. On top of that they make the "customization" for subclasses just picking one of two preset perk groups. How the hell do they do that when the most popular topic on their forum is people talking about new and unique subclasses and perks. What the hell were they thinking?
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>>384938095
Sentinels still have the bubble you moron.
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>>384938340
>Armor of light
No we don't.
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Fuck what they turned Bladedancer into.
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>>384934980
>Everyone
Lol me and my friends are enjoying it faggot. Stop trying to speak for people.
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>>384934760
HOW COULD THEY FUCK UP DESTINY 1's GAMEPLAY SO BADLY?

THEY DIDN'T NEED TO TOUCH IT, THE PROBLEM WAS THE CONTENT NOT THE ABILITIES OR MOVEMENT SPEED
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>made the game closer to Halo than Call of Duty
>everyone gets butthurt
Pfft
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>>384936647
>i spent $100 on a digital copy take that haters!

ok but why should we care?
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>>384937426
>The devs say they've fixed these issues
>Uh no that doesn't support my narrative so they're lying
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>>384934760
Can't wait for the game to make another 500mil first week and see bdobbinsftw shills seething
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>>384938512
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>384937467
>less RNG grinding for broken as fuck perk combos is a bad thing
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>>384938557
Destiny was always closer to Halo than COD
Thing is even Halo sequels had more going for them than Destiny 2. Imagine if Halo 2 or 3 had only one vehicle, 4v4 only modes with no FFA or BTB? But oh right Halo doesn't have RPG elements therfore it automatically sucks.
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>>384938456
>he actually unironically used AoL
I'm glad shitters like you are gone.
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>shoulder charges and nade babbies upset that they can't spam anymore
Lmao! Pvp is already good, all they need to do is fix the bloom shit
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>>384937254
>0.004%
Nah, fuck off.
And the loadout system is lame, the "a or b" subclasses are perma-fucked, the exotics seen are all even less exotic than the average D1 exotic (which weren't interesting enough to start with), every single change is pointing directly toward muh MLG with no regard at all for the PvE experience.
It doesn't matter how much they tweak now, the PvP-first attitude is so deeply embedded in the game that nothing short of gutting the whole thing and starting from scratch can fix it.

>b-but more content will be in the full game!
More bad content is still bad content.

But what really gets me is that all the player statistics I've seen show that the ratio of online PvE players to PvP players is something like 7/3 even when PvP events are running. Why is Bungie throwing the majority of their playerbase under the bus to appeal to a minority?
It doesn't even make any sense.
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>>384938694
>release is unchanged from the beta 9 times out of 10
>including Destiny 1
>Uh no that doesn't support my narrative the devs said so you're lying
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>>384938817
>Destiny was always closer to Halo than COD
>twitchy instadeath pvp with free shotguns and snipers at the beginning of every life
That's COD as hell, son.
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>>384936837
>game releases in two months
>"I-ITS JUST A BETA GUYS THEY WILL PATCH IT"

Every time.
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everyone who is bitching is still going to buy it which is the sad truth, game will still be #1 this fall
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>>384938867
Might as well just play CS:GO if you like Destiny 2 PvP, at least there you don't have to pay $200 for the full experience and even have the chance of making $200 off of rare drops.
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>>384934760
It's just boing. There is a lot of debate over balance, which you always have to take with a grain of salt as many mechanics aren't in the beta and some people just have shit ideas on balance. I would agree with PvE feeling slow because of the PvP balance, but it's not complete trash and easily fixed. I like the new PvP though, more tactical. Wouldn't mind more modes with higher player counts though. Slight increase in abilities without them being spammable would be welcome.
I dont really agree with the the complaints about movement. I feel like jumping and shooting feels way better than before.
When it come to the subclass complaints, there is some good and bad. Making simple skill trees is bad compared to possibly having varied builds, but people will and have in the past, gone for optimal builds anyways. And being able to customize stats is going to done with mods rather than the skill trees, so whatever.
But bungine has absolutely fucked up with trying to appeal to people who dropped destiny early and new players, while simultaneously not showing their fanbase anything new, or letting them sink their teeth into the meat of D2.
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>>384939143
Yea but why?
Why do people play destiny 1 and 2?
I tried the beta and I don't get it
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>>384938818
>he DIDN'T use armor of light
What's wrong with you? Do you like being vulnerable while still in your bubble?
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>>384938512
They made the gameplay abysmally slow so that the utter lack of content seems longer than it actually is. Smart move, considering the overall intelligence of the game's fans and their likelihood to pick up on this.
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>>384939182
Why are you so upset bdobbins? You upset that you can't adapt to changes?
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>>384935625
>extreme hyperboles and analogies that take literally minutes to say
>screaming and yelling is the default tone

God, listening to these sorts of videos are so fucking unbearable. Why do people watch these?
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>>384938867
You are so fucking stupid it hurts. These sorts of changes are FINE for PVP. The issue is that the fucktards at bungie make sweeping changes to BOTH pve and pvp, instead of balancing them separately. This ends up having a negative effect on the pve. They literally did this throughout D1 and it is astounding that they somehow have not learned that this doesn't work.
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>>384939317
>lol just adapt :^)
or he could just play a better game
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>>384939317
>bdobbins
Literally who? The only way to adapt is just to not buy the game, which is what I plan on doing.
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>>384939412
>REEEE DON'T CHANGE MY UNBALANCE PVP!!!
Kys, shitter. Learn to adapt
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>>384939398
>Destiny 2 is bad
>Here is a food analogy
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>>384934760
>Destiny 2 beta is apparently fucking garbage
You could at least have an informed opinion (which I don't either, btw) before starting a thread.
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I'm going to play it until Anthem comes out.
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>>384934760
Pretty much all the complaints are numbers issues that could be fixed by changing some values in a config file.

My issue is the class homogeneity and the balance issues.

>Warlocks are just awesome and well designed
>Warlocks are the only 2 subclasses who aren't based on getting procs from grenade/melee kills
>Getting procs from grenade/melee kills is fucking boring, especially in harder content and on bosses
>Titan's walls are rad, Warlocks rifts are rad
>Hunter is retarded, and I-frames for their dodge are locked behind an upgrade
>Weapon diversity needs another pass. Everything outside of Scout, Auto, and Pulse rifles feels like a shitty version of scout, auto, and pulse rifles.

I'm definitely going to go Titan or Warlock on PC, but given that, I thought Arcstrider was actually really fun, and their upgrades seemed rad too, it's just that AGAIN, it seems like they'd only perform well against basic mobs and not bosses or anything remotely beefy.
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>>384935625
This shit looks just like destiny 1. I legit wasn't sure if he was just showing old destiny footage at the beginning or not. What the fuck was the point of a new game??
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>>384939519
Go ahead, doesn't deny the fact that destiny 2 will be a huge success like D1 :^)

>>384939553
Okay, your choice my man
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>>384939574
Adapt to this! *cancels pre-order*
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>>384939691
Good for you. Less shitters in Destiny 2? No problem.
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>>384939641
>Bioware
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>>384936837
Yea, they even said destiny 2 will be better because they don't need to optimise the game for the last generation. They were restricted with destiny because it has to run on ps3 and x360.
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>>384939574
Holy shit. Do you literally have zero reading comprehension? How are you this fucking stupid? Kill yourself.

The whole point of the post is that they make these changes to BOTH PVP AND PVE. That they DON'T BALANCE THEM SEPERATELY, which is what they SHOULD DO. How can I spell this shit out anymore???

Also learn to adapt? Adapt to fucking what? Slogging through pve content? No thanks. It isn't fun.
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>>384939621
How is that an uninformed opinion?
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>>384937426
There's a big difference between devs saying there will be more content in the full release and the devs saying the balance/numbers will be tweaked in the full release

Are you just pretending to be retarded?.
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>The PVE game tuning has changed pretty significantly since the Beta build was deployed. The nature of a Beta of this scale requires that it’s based off a build of the game that is now months old. So, in many cases, your feedback is helping us validate changes that were previously made based on internal feedback and playtesting. For example, we too felt that ammo (especially power ammo) was too scarce in PvE. In addition to retuning the drop rates, we built a system that guarantees power ammo drops for you and your Fireteam from certain enemies, giving power weapons a more reliable and predictable role in your arsenal. Other areas where we’ve made significant tuning changes include grenade effectiveness in PvE, Boss vitality, and weapon damage against non-player combatants.
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>>384939652
Sidearms and HCs need a buff, SMGs are a good addition that outclasses every other primary at very close range.
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>>384938508
How fucking stupid are you?
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>Will this game hopefully kill the franchise?
Retard. they're already working on 3. do you know how contracts work?
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>>384940079
>SMGs are a good addition that outclasses every other primary at very close range.
This. That exotic SMG warlocks get is brutal in Crucible. I was always top of the board with it.
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>>384939894
"Yes"
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>>384940069
>i-i-it's just a Beta guys! We're totally gonna fix this!
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>hurr they will fix it in the full release

Some of the bigger fucking issues are fundamental design flaws that are already in the game. Ie the two primaries system..

Furthermore it's concerning that they are continuing to show an inability to realize that PVE and PVP have different needs. And instead they are trying to make the game into "muh competitive shooter" which is killing the PVE aspect of the game
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>>384939652
I completely agree with you, good post. I'm feeling a little salty as hunter when it come to class abilities. I feel like my job is to just kill mobs.

However, when I comes to class homogeneity. I can see it turning out to be countered by player loadouts. Moving things like snipers into the power slot is going to push people towards being specialized, and the loadouts for each class in beta highlights this. Take a look at the exotics, the Titan pumps out dps on bosses, while the hunter kills mobs, and the warlock is the support in between the two.
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>>384939928
>PvE is so hard now ;.;, bungie p-please im a shitter who can't kill simple AI's.. ;(
Lmfao kys shitter, please don't buy this game as a matter of fact let me get your gamertag so i can laff at your faggot ass when you buy the game this september or october
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>>384939652
>warlock gets free grenade and melee energy for bunnyhopping like a retard

i dont know how i feel about this
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>>384939989
Are you actually retarded? Because no major dev has come out an admitted the beta is the current version of the game and that nothing will change in the full release, even though that's what happens almost every time.

>There's a big difference between devs saying there will be more content in the full release and the devs saying the balance/numbers will be tweaked in the full release
Because the former is a given and the latter is what EVERY dev says to damage control their beta regardless of whether shit is tweeked in the full release.

"It's just an old build" is beyond retarded. You're beyond retarded if you argue its just a beta to defend the final game.
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>>384940386
Multiple changes are listed in >>384940069 which only affect PvE, so why are you trying to claim they're being balanced together.
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>>384940452
Warlocks are supposed to be mobile.
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>>384940489
>N-No!! B-Bungie is lying!!! BDOBBINS SUBSCRIBERS HOW DO WE STOP PEOPLE FROM ENJOYING THIS GAME!!
Holy fuck the destiny haters are in full force today
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>>384940539
yeah i get that but fuck its annoying as shit fighting indoors now because I feel like i should be in the air at all times otherwise I'm gimping myself
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>>384940406
>>384939317
>>384938508
>>384939772
Butthurt destiny fanbois. Just like pic related but 10 years later.

Gotta defend dem preorders
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>>384940702
>Bdobbins shill this upset people are going to enjoy D2
>critizing a beta
LOL
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>>384936128
>>384936220
I see your point. I am pretty disappointed with those changes but I do feel the strike shown has scaled the bosses to work better with the new heavy gun system. Shotguns felt pretty potent when used and all heavies seemed to carry a little more ammo. I did like the map explorations and am interested to see more, but highly disappointed the guns are just as bland and gear is now pretty much useless as shown
>full resilience versus no resilience is 11% increase in shields
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>>384940406
I seriously hope you kill yourself. Like are you still in school? I refuse to believe a grown adult is this fucking retarded.

You continue to miss the point. It's not that the mobs are hard to kill, it's that it isn't fucking fun. PVE content feels like a slog to get through. The enemies are EVEN WORSE bullet sponges than they were in D1. Which is fucking saying something.
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>>384940650
>I AM SILLY!!

Destiny defense force out in full force ITT
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>>384940662
Pop everyone down a bit, and then swoop over them like a noble eagle and execute them with a handcanon or whatever for free CD reductions.
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>>384940406
I played the single player part earlier today, and the aim assist is so fucking strong you barely have to move the stick.

Dull boring shit, Bungie is just a carcass from it's former self.
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>>384940820
Once again, Bungie have already admitted this was a problem and have decreased boss health and increased damage against PvE enemies.
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>>384940662
There's always the angel wings perk. I prefer VW so it wasn't an issue for me
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>>384940807
>>384940650
>you can't criticize it since it's a beta!
>Everyone who calls me out is bdobbins

lmaoing @ ur life kid
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>Get D1 Taken King collector's as a gift from a friend that wanted me to raid with the group
>Fun to hang out with everyone, game itself is just meh
>Get stuck buying expansions and Destiny 2 because it's basically all they play
I honestly don't enjoy any aspect of it other than the bantz and hanging out. I'm pretty annoyed that it's almost all that they play but at least I convinced them to move on to playing on PC for D2.
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>titan is supposed to be the melee class
>give them the shortest range
>give them same damage as warlock, which has the longest
>make their abilities active after a kill unlike warlock witch is on hit
>also give warlocks the hunter dodge because why not
>make all classes super have less customizable choices
>pulse rifle shits on everything
>heavy slot now " we dont know how to balance so shove everything into one"
>no dedicated servers
>anti consumer dlc model
If they fix all this id buy the game
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>play on my own
>it's shit
>play strikes with two other chums I know in real life
>have a fucking blast
/v/ just doesn't have any friends. So any game that incentivizes group play is immediately garbage. This is fact
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>>384940820
>Bdobbins FUMING that people actually enjoyed the beta
It's okay bdobbins the game is just not for you, but you can make another destiny hate videos and get your drone fans to like the video
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>>384940489
It's literally a vertical slice demo they made to show at E3. You're being retarded. It's not like they're promising a complete overhaul of everything, they're just straight up saying, "yeah we got some complaints on weapon damage and cooldowns and those will be fixed for release." Again, it's literally just a matter of changing some values in a .cfg file.
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>>384936479
>Warframe
That's as bad as destiny what the fuck is you're problem
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>>384934760
I mean people are praising the story mission and it's mediocre trash, so I can only imagine how bad the strike is
Seriously Halo CE had a more compelling first mission and that game is literally legal in Canada
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>>384935625
The game looks like an exact replica of Destiny 1. Kek
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I have 1600 hours into destiny 1, and was severely disappointed with the game despite me putting more than a month into it. There was no grind when you got to end game (at least diablo 3 has paragon points and different seasons). The PVP became so watered down and the time to kill became less than half a second at one point with The Last Word. I was in the top one percent in both clash and trials of osiris. I was so happy to see that they made the time to kill longer for destiny 2, until i realized that even skilled players can not 1v2 in pretty much any scenario due to the lack of catch up mechanics (i.e strong grenades, strong melees, strong mobility). All in all, they ruined crucible in destiny 2 and therefore they ruined the reason I would personally buy the game. Destiny 2 is unfinished and will be unfinished in two months when it releases. The destiny franchise will always be a 60+ dollar beta
:(
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What is the best alternate for halo on ps3 or Ps4?

Something you can play split screen with 2- 4 people, can kill each other or bots, play different modes.?
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>>384941196
t. Luke
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>>384940849
>>384941034
>NOOOO YOU CAN't ENJOY THE BETA!! STOP DESTINY 2 SUCKS! DONT BUY IT!
Back to youtube bdobbins

>>384940960
Lmao you're such a huge shitposter because if you played 1 you would know they toned down the aim assit for 2, but it's alright, try again.
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>>384935625
I can't believe people watch this shit, this kid is like 14 years old desperately trying to mimic e-celebs.
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>>384941168
>I literally have no argument the post

How much is Bungie/Activision paying you?
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I just want a fun space-magic game. Is that so much to ask?
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>>384935625
This video is how I imagine 99% of /v/. So cringey
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>>384941318
>splitscreen
>modern consoles
no pal
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>>384941402
Nice argument you have there. How much is bdobbins paying you to shitpost on /v/? You don't enjoy the game? Well sucks for you because the game will be a massive hit like 1 like it or not :)
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>>384940650
Nobody is trying to stop you from enjoying the game. Sales and "but I liked it!" aren't a ward against criticism, and bemoaning people expressing their opinions about video games on a video game image board is fucking retarded. Delete your shitty existence.
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>>384941402
>where's your counterargument to me calling you a retard and saying you should kill yourself
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>>384941126
Every game is fun with friends, that's not an excuse for the game being shit
t. Anon in the exact same situation, D1 was alright with friends but complete shit solo or with pubs
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>>384941330
>Changing things like grenade cooldowns is a massive effort and the devs are lying about doing it in order to secure more pre-orders from the autists that actually care about shit like that

Damn, woah.
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>>384941348
>HURR DURFF I AM SILLY
>I had fun so you can't say it's bad! Stop trying to stop me from enjoying things!
>you can't criticize it since it's a beta!
>Everyone who calls me out is bdobbins!

top kek
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>>384941572
>bungie already said the game is an older build and already fixed some of the problems people are complaining
>NO! BUNGIE IS LYING! STOP BEING SO OPTIMISTIC!
Sure thing kiddo
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>>384941674
Yes, that's what I'm suggesting.
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>>384941402
>>384941550
>Haha nice argument faggot
>Wow that's not an argument
>Yeah well you didn't make an argument either
>Are you gonna make an argument or not?
Real quality discussion going on in here.
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>>384941250
You could take literally any mission from the Halo series and it'd be more compelling than any mission created for Destiny thus far, including The Library and Cortana. VoG and WotM are the only good pieces of PvE content Bungie has made in 7 years.
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>>384941550
>b..but it will probably sell well so stop criticizing the game

Pathetic.

>>384941638
>completely ignores the second half of the post

That's what I thought
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The beta gameplay wasn't bad. There was just literally nothing to do but multiplayer and the multiplayer is pretty boring.
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>>384941769
>HURR DURR THE GAME DOESN't CATER TO ME SO I HAVE TO SAY THE GAME IS SHIT!!
>NO ONE CAN LIKE IT BECAUSE I DON't LIKE IT!
>Beta is shit because i said so!!
Top LEL
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>>384941805
>no,you!
Great going there sweetie

>>384941894
>the game will be shit because im going to based everything on a old beta build!
Disgusting
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>>384941638
>>384941550
I have to ask: Are Destiny fans always this defensive?
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>>384941775
>history literally shows that this is the case
>Even with Bungie and Destiny 1

But this time will be different right?
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>>384941894
>second half of the post
You mean the argument about PvE being too hard that multiple people have pointed out is being changed by Bungie?
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>>384942141
I have to ask: are you going to base the full game of just the beta?
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>>384942141
No, but I can understand the other dudes anger.
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>>384935625
>suspension of disbelief
>suspension of disbelief
>Fucking
>Fucking
>Fucking
Fucking
Fucking
Fucking
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>>384942117
If it's such an old build why the fuck is it what they chose to release and have the public test??
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>>384941348
>bdobbins created literally hundreds if not thousands of bungie/reddit/youtube alternate accounts with convinvcing falsified histories solely for the sake of shitposting everywhere all at once about Destiny 2
If that were true the man would be a legend.
Unfortunately it seems more likely that Destiny 2 is just shit.

>>384942141
Fuck yes they are. But to be fair, they are gambling addicts that are suffering very real mental problems.
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>>384942165
>Hey Tony remember how we said we were going to make balance changes to D2?
>Yeah?
>Well let's just not for no reason.
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>>384941657
>That's not an excuse for the game being shit
You're having fun with your friends, what's the problem?
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>>384942165
Bungie has always changed shit in betas, though.
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>>384942165
Why couldn't it be? Everyone loved the first beta because there was alot of things to do but when it came out people hated it because that was basically the whole game. Bungie is probably confident enough that they didn't need to show the full game because if people did a little bit of googling, they would know that this was basically a server stress test and supposedly there's already 50+ cutscenes in D2 compared to D1 which only had 48 including all the dlcs.
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>>384939950
well gee cletus the fact that OP wrote APPARENTLY denoting that they don't know first hand kind of gave it away
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>>384941949
>>HURR DURR THE GAME DOESN't CATER TO ME SO I HAVE TO SAY THE GAME IS SHIT!!
>>NO ONE CAN LIKE IT BECAUSE I DON't LIKE IT!

NO

CRITICISM

ALLOWED

This is LITERALLY the state of Destiny fanboys. No one is allowed to say the game is bad, anyone who say it is trying to prevent everyone from enjoying it.

>>384942117
>the game will be good because it's just an old beta build
Pathetic
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>>384935625
>wwwwwwWWWWWWHATS going on ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, etc etc etc
Stopped listening right there.
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Anyone expecting a balanced game from the company that let
>Thorn
>TLW
>Felwinter's Lie
>Final round snipers
>Warlock melees
>Sunbreakers
>Hopscotch Pilgrim/Hawksaw
>lots of other stuff I erased from my memory
take turns running rampant in their game for the last three years is insane.
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I love Destiny 1 but this Beta dampened my enthusiasm quite a bit. I'm fine with keeping the base gameplay the same but what we've seen so far doesn't seem to justify it being a new game. I'm getting the PC version anyway so I'll be able to see how it pans out with the console release.
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>>384942443
>implying edgy teens who sub to bdobbins don't come on /v/ to shitpost
O im laffin.
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>>384942262
>no,you!
Great going there sweetie
>>384942117
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>>384942690
Remember how many times they had to nerf Vex Mythoclast? Or Pocket Infinity?
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>>384941126
No shit sherlock.

Playing with friends makes even shit games fun. Doesn't make destiny any less shit.

I'm honestly just sad that Halo gone to shit since bungie stopped makin' em and then they can´t get their own shit straight.
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How do people play console shooters? Everything feels so slow and clunky. I might try the beta again once it goes on PC, but it's hard to imagine people praising the first game for its gunplay.
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>>384942618
Who said no critism is allowed? Everything you're shitposting about will supposedly be fixed when the game is release. Why are you so upset that i enjoyed the beta?
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>>384941949
How is that any different from
>HURR DURR THE GAME CATERS TO MY SHIT TASTE SO YOU CAN'T SAY THE GAME IS SHIT!!
>NO ONE CAN CRITICIZE IT BECAUSE I LIKE IT!
>Beta is good because i said so!!
Because this is actually what you've been saying
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>>384942242
>still can't read

Its kinda pathetic at this point.

Regardless of if they are allegedly going to fix it or not, even though some of the issues literally can't be fixed since they are design decisions already implemented in game, the fact that they thought it was okay in the first place is pretty alarming. And the bigger overarching issue of them being unable to realize that the PVP and PVE need to be balanced separately.
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>>384942785
God, the Pocket Infinity was an interesting idea but a fucking disaster in terms of PvP balance.
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>>384942505
No one on /v/ has friends so they get mad when they see other people have fun playing games with their friends.
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>>384942262
>>384942541

For all intents and purposes this is the demo of Destiny 2. I'm not going to spend money on the game just to find it out it's the same ol' gameplay from the beta. Because I was given the exact same "it's just a beta" excuse with Destiny 1's beta and nothing significant was changed for release. If there's any time to decide whether to write off Destiny 2, it's now.
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>>384942690
>Hopscotch Pilgrim/Hawksaw
I forgot all about this one. TLW and Thorn were annoying but the infinite range laser pulse meta made me stop playing the game.
>>384942785
Best part was that even after they were turned mediocre they didn't stop nerfing Fusions.
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>>384942959
I fucking loved that gun, so sad it never got brought back. I also harvested a lot of hatemail with it in Crucible.

Also, we both forgot their biggest gamebreaker in vanilla: Gjallarhorn.
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>>384935625
Who would want to watch an autist rant for 25 minutes
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>>384942939
>They're not balancing PvE and PvP differently!
>Latest TWAB shows they're balancing PvE and PvP differently
I'm honestly starting to feel like you might actually have some kind of intellectual disability.
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>>384942618
It's just like Destiny 1 with a few changes but very strong ones.
I'm really digging the new story and the new landscapes, before strikes were just these glorified hallways but now things feel way more open and stuff.
You can't just breeze through it all anymore because you'll die a lot more.

I'm failing to see what makes it a true Sequel though other than it's just a continuation of it all? A new class, 4th subclass, or even just more strikes/things to do would make me plenty happy.
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>>384943129
Blackhammer
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>>384943170
/v/
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>>384943289
Was that the Crota legendary sniper that was an instant boss killer? Because fuck that thing and my inability to ever get it.
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>>384934760
>ITT autists complaining about destiny on /v/ when no fucking bungie employee browse here
Go to reddit and complain you fucking retards, at least bungie will see your criticism
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>>384942878
>Who said no critism is allowed?
You are. You're literally calling all criticism shitposting, criticism is not allowed because everything from the beta will be changed. You guys reply to every single criticism with some hyperbolic greentext strawman like
>>HURR DURR THE GAME DOESN't CATER TO ME SO I HAVE TO SAY THE GAME IS SHIT!!
>>NO ONE CAN LIKE IT BECAUSE I DON't LIKE IT!
>>NOOOO YOU CAN't ENJOY THE BETA!! STOP DESTINY 2 SUCKS! DONT BUY IT!

Also why do you think anyone cares if you personally enjoyed the beta? W
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>Replies 170
>Posters 63
really gets the thalamus throbbing
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>>384943263
>HURR DURR THE GAME CATERS TO MY SHIT TASTE SO YOU CAN'T SAY THE GAME IS SHIT!!
>NO ONE CAN CRITICIZE IT BECAUSE I LIKE IT!
>Beta is good because i said so!!

See I can do this too.
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>>384943170
Destiny fanboys apparently.
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>>384943468
It's literally 1 bungie shill autist and bdobbinftw autist going at eachother lmao
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>>384943170
Bdobbinsftw fans
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>Bungie announces Destiny 2 will be a core game with two paid DLC expansions
>exactly the same as vanilla Destiny
>act surprised when it's dogshit
Then you give them enough money for the devs to bathe in prostitutes and gold and wonder why they never improve the first fucking thing. You dumb fucks get exactly what you deserve.
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>the shitposter calling everyone bdobbins and defending destiny to the death
Audible kek. Must be that faggot that posted (more like spammed) concept art in the threads months before release. Back then he also defended destiny by saying it had a large player base and the sequel will be a success. Haha, what now faggot, even normalfags are shitting on it. Enjoy your dead in a month game.
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Who the fuck is Bdobbinsftw?
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>>384942870
>>384942870
>Everything feels so slow and clunky. I might try the beta again once it goes on PC, but it's hard to imagine people praising the first game for its gunplay.

That's because this game is much slower and worse than D1, in D1 you moved much faster, cooldowns were much faster, ultimates were much faster.

They toned everything down and it's really bad even for fans like me who loved the first games multiplayer.
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>>384943416
Not true. You're just the one upset i enjoyed the beta and you're shitposting why this game will be bad eventhough half of the things you criticize will probably be fixed at launch.
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>>384943549
I don't mine criticizing at all, man.
I just think people are being really rough on it and don't bring up any actual problems aside from the beta being more of a demo.

What class did you play as? I felt like Warlock was really underwhelming and that's what I loved playing back in Destiny 1. Then the new subclass for them is just boring. It's not even new.

Did you play Destiny 1?
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>>384943871
#1 destiny hater.
>hates destiny but for some reason keeps talking about it.
I don't even like destiny but it's funny to see him make videos like "why destiny 2 will be a failure"
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>>384943930
>half of the things you criticize will probably be fixed at launch
>probably
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>>384943407
By the looks of things several bungie employees browse this board.
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>one of the most simple and boring skill trees in all of gaming got even further streamlined
Jesus
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>>384934760
>apparently
Is it just accepted now that you don't even have to try a free game to see if it's shit for yourself, but instead parrot others who agree with your pre-concieved opinions? That's the state of video game discussion these days? The beta is more of the same. Looks to be Destiny 1 gameplay with an actual story. The one mission in it has more plot progression than the entire first game. Take that as you will. Probably not worth buying until the badass bundle or whatever the hell they release years from now at a fraction of the price.
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>>384943871
He's fucking coming out of the walls man can't you see him! I'm not crazy!
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i remember everybody saying Destiny was shit
online shooter faggots will just keep playing it until they patch it and everybody will forget
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>>384940807
put some effort in

At least Zack Snyder fans use their delusions as refutation, you can't even measure up halfway.
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>>384934760
I dunno man how did people like the first one?

Some aspects of the actual story were kind of cool in a halo-esque fashion that made me want to know more, mostly about the antagonist races, but the PvP and raids (which were the main focus of the game) were hot garbage.

The pvp was especially disgusting, with some of the most overpowered weapons being fucking SEASONAL.
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>>384944103
Yeah? Im optimistic unlike your hivemind who hates everything. I'll judge the game when it's finally release and we get the full game.
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>>384944178
Des2ny is trash but Snyder is kino
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>>384942870
PC shooters have an incredible skill ceiling that I have no idea if I'm doing better or worse because of how people play.

Consoles feel way more laid back and more fair to be honest because controller limitations. It doesn't look nearly as competitive as PC pro matches or anything but I definitely feel like I have a better chance of becoming great at pvp.

The gunplay is that of Borderlands where guns just suit you and how you play. However in Destiny it goes beyond that because of the perks and stability and such.

You'd have to know the perks in Destiny to understand how satisfying some are.
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>>384939641
I haven't played Destiny, and I've long since detoxed from Warframe. I'm willing to keep an open mind and give Anthem a shot.
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>>384944178
How ass hurt will you be when D2 sells millions of copies on consoles alone :^).

Try harder weeb shitter
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>>384935625
That's a lot of fucking
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>>384943746
That's not even one of his videos you retarded fuck
>>
[Spoiler]Does anyone want to hear my gay rap[/spoiler]I worked really hard on it
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>>384943916
>Raids
>Garbage
Crota's End was weak and King's Fall was a bit too long, but Vault of Glass was fantastic and Wrath of the Machine was great as well.
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>>384944349
What would make Anthem a definite buy for you?
I want like, event only items or cosmetics.
Halloween items are always edgy or silly and I love both.
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>>384944421
Sure
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>>384943710
The only one who ever brought up bdobbinftw was the autistic destiny shill.
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>>384944420
>fuck
Lmao are you that youtuber?
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>>384944421
>>
>m-muh it'll sell millions
>not a single penny will go to you
>the absolute state of this shitposter
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>>384944452
>implying

I'm just talking about the multiplayer anon.
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>>384942870
Obviously someone who uses gampads are going to feel weird when playing kb+m, and vice versa. Accuracy is undoubtedly better on kb+m, and lends itself to faster gameplay. But that doesn't mean playing shooters on gamepads is impossible. Each format has its own feel, advantages, and disadvantages. For example, powerful snipers on consoles don't feel as broken as they could be on PC because of the higher skill needed to use them.
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>>384944403
Sales not equal quality though.
There are very good games that sell bad and very bad games that sell good.
Also, the number of people liking something doesn't make that something good or bad. It might be indication of a spread cultural problem, like lack of basic knowledge or ability to make proper criticism.
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>>384944403
>still at the bottom of the pyramid
it's okay, effort is hard. Why climb when you can play in the mud forever?
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>>384944669
Sorry, that was meant for >>384944214
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>>384944452
I guess I expected more from a first person shooter from the Halo devs than 'Fight through horde of identical enemies to fight another identical enemy who's bigger than all the others, recolored, and has a shitload of health'

There was just nothing interesting about the raid bosses. They all were big, stayed far away from you, and shot big, glowy, slow moving explosives.

I didn't waste time on the DLC because the base game was so dissapointing.
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>>384944532
VERSE 1 COCKED AND LOADED

Suck dick like a minigun and then he cum! gotta run YAA!(GRAT GRAT)
Penis precise like a pistol 1 thrust 2 thrust then POP! like a pimple. YAA! (GRAT GRAT).
Big dick feel like a missle SQUISH SQUASH played wit my ass like a fiddle YAA!(GRAT GRAT)

VERSE 2 SHOTGUN WITH THE CUM

Blast in my ass like an AK wake up turn around stop do what they say
It dont stop there shit change like shanaenae tie me up spin me around like a beyblade bend around shape my ass like some moist clay suck his dick through the door like an X-ray clean up his cum i do that shit strightaway bend down lie on my back like a manta ray dont write this down its all on my resume.

VERSE 3 AUTOMATIC PENIS

(GRAT GRAT) (BRAAA BRAAA) YEEEEEET

MY ASS RED LIKE RAGU
RIDE ME LIKE A CONOU
A BELONG IN A ZOO THE WAY I BE BEASTING ON NIGGAS ITS RUDE(SO RUDE)
EAT UP THE MESS LIKE SOME DAMN FINGER FOOD
THESE NIGGAS BE NEW THEY DONT KNOW SHIT ITS THAT INEPTITUDE(NEP
JUST KNOW THIS THAT MY DICK CAUSE A MAGNITUDE ALL OVER THAT AND LONGITUDE ITS DISQUIETUDE
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>>384937092

plays beta
>it's still shit faggot
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>>384944538
I'm pretty sure there's some bdobbins fans who just hates destiny players for enjoying the game but idk if they're in this thread lol. Beta was okay but wish they shown a little bit more
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Reminder the engine is the reason they didn't make much contend for Destiny.

And they didn't bother switching over to another one or creating a new one.


How can Bungie fuck up so badly?
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>>384944751
>doesn't like Destiny
>likes second worst girl
hmm
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>>384944403
>Well at least this corporation will make a lot of money
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>>384935625
jesus christ what a wretched little cunt this guy is. stop wasting my god damn time with this terrible commentary, spit it out already.
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>>384944214
>seasonal weapons in an FPS
>can be used in PVPZ

Fucking this. This is why I won't touch Destiny. Fuck that shit. Who here seriously puts up with that bullshit? Autists who can put up with participating in every goddamn event, I'm sure.
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>>384935625
so hes mad he cant abuse abilities?
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>>384944954
Who says they didn't?
>>
I like it. Most of the game's lifespan depends on PvP with the exception of the first month or two that new pve content launches so it's good on them to focus on that

They've already said that they'll fix ammo drops, making them more frequent and even guaranteed for some major enemies, same for super and grenade damage. This is allegedly an old build of the beta too

PvE is still getting shafted though. They haven't said anything about cooldowns but this is one of the major complaint points so they'll probably be on it

The rest is just an expansion of the original destiny. The A team started moving on to D2 2 years ago; you don't pull off a brand new game in 2 years

The ones who liked it will come back; the rest will just keep shitposting
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>>384943962
>I just think people are being really rough on it and don't bring up any actual problems
People have brought up actual problems though, if anything you guys are being way too apologetic about it trying to dismiss any criticism with excuses like its a beta.

For the record I played Titan, which is apparently the best class they have to offer in the beta. And no I didn't play Destiny 1 past the beta, of course if I did and complained I'd get shit on like this guy did >>384943754
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>>384944954
Scrap an entire engine?
Even if it was complete shit I think Activision wouldn't let them because MUH MONEY.

Is there word that they are using a new engine? I mean I know that sounds stupid to ask but after playing the beta I don't know.
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>>384945162
Does it look like a new engine to you? It's not 60fps and still looks horrible so it's the same engine
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>Premise of the story is that the traveler is captured and you don't have light
Cool maybe this will lead to new-
>lol back up generators or some bullshit
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>>384945356
What did you expect? Seriously the only thing I would think of is there is no ghost or respawing
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>>384943930
Nothing you posted is true at all. Nobody is uspet you enjoyed the beta. Why the fuck do you think any of us should care? " you're shitposting why this game will be bad" is literally No Criticism Allowed.
>eventhough half of the things you criticize will probably be fixed at launch.
Just like Destiny 1 right? Get you head out of your ass.
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>>384944861
Oh, you're talking about the Strikes, yeah, they were a bit weak. Some of the later ones like S.A.B.E.R., Sunless Cell and Echo Chamber were a lot better than the originals, but there's still definite room for improvement. The Inverted Spire boss is a bit lame, although the way the flow of the fight changes throughout each phase changes is decent.
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>>384944486
I'm not sure. I'm just keeping an open mind and seeing what the game offers. That said, good world building will be an immense plus.
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>>384935625

That guy in the video is a huge faggot. Talks about evidence then only gives opinions. Not even fit to eat the shit of Mathewmitosis or Joseph Anderson.
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>>384945356
You do know that every wipe within a darkness zone is basically your guardian dying forever right?
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>>384944954
What are you talking about? They're using completely new tools.
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>>384945356
>contrivance to set new and old players to level 1
>WOOOOOOW I THOUGHT MY POWERS WERE GONE FOR GOOD BUGGED TRAVELER MECHANICS
Seriously nigga?
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>>384935425
A true successor.
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>>384934760
Cons: small beta, Bloom is crazy and needs to be fixed on hand cannons, PvE needs more heavy drop, didn't let us play the 3rd sub class(even though there's already leaks showing the suntitan), Roaming is almost impossible now because people tend to stick together. Supers takes too long charge up in pvp

Pros: nades and fist charges don't 1shot anymore. More teamplay, 2 primaries means you can switch between 1 long range wep and 1 short.
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>>384944920
>I'm pretty sure there's some bdobbins fans who just hates destiny players for enjoying the game

I'm pretty sure you are retarded if you actually believe this. Notice how it's they're allegedely "upset" at people enjoying the game, and not the actual state of the game. It's like Destiny fans have to shift away from complaints about the game to make it seem like their personal enjoyment is under attack by people calling the game shitty.
>>
>destiny
>failing
>what is the twitch community
Twitch is keeping destiny alive, D2 will be a massive commercial success
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>>384940807
>faggot thinks a beta nowadays means they will work on the thing to improve
>doesn't understand it's a free bug test to clear 30% of it and see how a clogged server handles the code & auth

Fucking noobs.
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>>384945353
Yeah it does actually. And it does run 60 fps, and engines do more than just run graphics. In D1 bungie had to literally drop older consoles to increase inventory space.
>>
Tell me anons who played the first game and now this beta

what's wrong?
What did they change?
I keep hearing it's slower somehaow
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>>384944561
>omg someone said a curse word on 4chan mommy!
Dumb fuck.
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>>384934760
>Destiny 2 beta is apparently fucking garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY
remember this?'''WE BATTLEFIELD 1 NOW BOYZZZ XDDD DIS SUCKZ LMAO''
>Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare was the best-selling game of 2016
and the cock sucking children/normies payed 60$ regardless.

same shit with Destiny 2,it will sell millions
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>>384934980
By everyone you mean /v/ don't you?
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>>384945820
it was already slow as hell, how could it get any slower?
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>>384945820
Titans are mad because they can't move at twice the speed of every other class due to the odd jump mechanics in D1.
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>>384935625
what a little bitch
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>>384940702
How old are most of these kids now
>>
It won't fail, normies are going to eat that shit up anyway.
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>>384945983
Not him but I've seen the exact same complaints on /dg/, the subreddit and the bungie.net forums
>>384946181
Old enough to post on /v/ to defend their favorite console shooter
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>>384945730
Nah im not retarded. I literally had a friend who was mad at me for playing destiny1 and linked me one of bdobbins videos saying i have shit taste for enjoying destiny. Sure there was alot of flaws that D1 had but it's literally the best shooter-loot game we have because The division sucks, warframe pvp and gunplay is shit and borderlands dialouge is too much
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>>384944313
how the fuck do people this casual end up on /v/
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I enjoy it. There was only one strike but it was more excited than what I played of destiny 1
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>>384945820
Wrong: bad cooldowns, pvp changes keep affecting pve. Most of this will supposedly be fixed by the time it launches, but it's bungie so there will still be a shitton more issues

Right: It's not a 1-shot fest. Sticky nades, shoulder charge and other abilities are not that powerful anymore, thus encouraging primary play (there's 2 primaries now). Maps seem to have a more balanced design (D1 maps are very unbalanced, according to them). Some minor tweaks here and there. Other positive features are not included in the beta, like the in-game grimoire and clan sherpa and all that shit they announced

Middle ground: This game is extremely dependant on team shooting, more than ever. Like some anon said, roaming by yourself with a primary, against a competent team, is a no-go and I'm not sure how to feel about that

>>384946017
Strafe control is a mini-skate. Not as fast and op, but still faster than the other subclasses

>>384945987
Some primaries in D1 are still at under a TTK of 1 second. It wasn't slow

Now you go from 2 tapping people in D1 with a LITC handcannon to 4 tapping even with 3 headshots. NOW it's slow
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>>384940702
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>Lowered movement, increased TTK, cool downs are x4 increased on all abilities and grenades, decreased damage on everything except guns


I hate this so much, might as well get rid of abilities, supers and grenades. So fucking useless now now that they pandered to the MLG crowd for shitty esports
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>>384945218
Well I haven't heard anything that made me not like the beta aside from, again, the wonky subclasses that are just tweaked and labeled as "NEW".
Hunter was my favorite in the beta.

>Heavy ammo not dropping nearly as much as it should
They already said they would fix that in the game
>Skills not as fast as they should be
I'm impartial on this because I do and don't like it. I appreciate my grenades and melees and super more but then you're just really sleeping on a lot of things that makes Destiny cool, ya know?
>PVP feels slow
Feels fast to me, I literally went back to Destiny 1 pvp and it feels slower.
>It's hardly a beta
Yeah I have no idea why they called it a beta? Maybe it's to test things and get calculations which would be used in the actual game or perhaps beta is the new buzzword for demo? When was the last time we had a Triple A demo? I guess beta makes people think changes are way more likely to happen or something?
No idea.

I really loved Destiny 1 so I'm just bias about a lot things because I've been through the worst of it all and still loved it a lot, sorry Anon.
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>>384945820
You literally move slower; running, falling, very slow. Recharge times are slower, as in grenade/melee ability, and the dodge moves are new and cool but recharge way too slowly to be useful. Your shields recharge very slow. And they replaced our secondary weapon type with elemental primary weapons, and stuffed what was secondary weapons in the "power weapon" slot, with no more heavy machine guns or rocket launchers, so killing things is slower too.

It's just. so. FUCKING. SLOW.
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>>384944224
>Im optimistic unlike your hivemind who hates everything

This is exactly what a Destiny Fanboy Drone would say.
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>>384945820
Obviously, I don't speak for everyone, but the beta is boring compared to first because it only has two missions and multiplayer with premade characters. While the first beta let you play the first part of the full game.
When it comes to changes: PvP has a longer ttk and much larger focus on Gunplay rather than supers, grenades and abilities. Also PvP is reduced to 4v4. Some people like th changes some dont.
When it comes to PvE the time to kill has also increased making missions feel slower too because of spongier enemies. How you build your loadout has changed and classes are samey for balance and more streamlined. Less people like these changes than hate it.
Overall reception: hype has been dampened, but it isn't "LITTERALLY THE SAME GAME LOL. BUNGO IS DOOMED XD". Full game might be positively received on release, because bungie has held back on all the new shit, which is terrible PR plan IMO. People who dropped it have a perception of the games, and old players have only changes to complain about.
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>muh e-sports
>in a game centered around RNG loot drops
Bungie are literally retarded.
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>>384946624
It was basically a stress test, i will be SEETHING as a sonybro if pc cucks get to play the updates build which is probably going to happen lol
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>>384946720
Rocket Launchers are still in.
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>>384944863
Sweden's new national anthem
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>>384946745
How so drone? I criticize vanilla d1 but TTK really did fix alot of problems and i finally bought the game at that time.
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>>384946497
>shoulder charge

One thing they literally for wrong. How can they nerf that? I'm risking my life shoulder charging you. I can't shoot, nor can I strafe or I lose the charge, I'm completely vulnerable to guns and everything! I should be rewarded with the kill if I land it! Not just take off a pitiful amount of health.

I feel like they only did this because shotguns are no longer available, which also annoys me
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>>384945820
Abilities all charge much slower. You basically need to use your super the second you get it in order to use it a second time in one strike.

Weapon changes are nonsensical: everything that isn't a rifle/pistol is a heavy weapon now. This means the guns feel even more samey than before and now there are very simply totally useless weapon categories: why would you ever rock a sword or shotgun when now you'll have no secondary sniper rifle or fusion to fall back on for boss damage?

They've also completely gutted character customization; between the predetermined character builds and the lack of loot rolls along with the former gun limitations, they're balacing PVE for PVP.

Its not completely awful but for a game that is largely a glorified expansion there's a lot of weird design changes.
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>>384946930
Is it just because I'm using a hunter? I have the shitty grenade launcher but it's not the same thing. I don't like the other classes so I don't tend to play them much.
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>>384947041
>shoulder babbie btfo
But too be fair i think they should've kept shoulder charge 1shotting because it takes your melee charge now
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>>384946406
>I literally had a friend who was mad at me for playing destiny1
He was mad because he's your friend and wanted you to play better games with him.
Nobody here is your friend, we're here to debate the game yourself. SO you are retarded for making it for acting like people are actively trying to stop you from liking the game because they said the game was shit.
If all you care about is the loot tredmill then Bungie has no incentive to improve with Destiny, they will keep churning out the same shit piecemeal cut up in expansions and $60 "sequels". At least Halo expanded and evolved significantly from each release. Meanwhile Destiny is more stagnant than a shooter franchise from 10 years ago.
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>>384935625
>rant about slow
>slow rant
what did he mean by this?
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>>384947041
You're vulnerable to shotguns, not the pea shooters that are primaries now

Everyone with power ammo that is slightly competent is now a god as long as they have it. Unless you teamshoot you literally CANNOT do anything against anyone trying to ape you from a reasonable distance, Fusion rifles went from being shit to being arguably even at the same point or better than shotties too. Grenade launchers are the only ones that seem to be ass

I see people complaining too much without any knowledge or without knowing that they've already said they're going to fix it
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>>384935625
Looks exactly like the first game and idiots ate that shit by the shovel, why will this be any different?
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>>384946990
>call everyone who criticizes D2 a hivemind that hates everything
>not a fanboy drone

choose one
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>>384938095
Because Sun Singer rez broke the game at numerous points and was a crutch ability people only used they died.
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>>384946720
Oh shit, I forgot about the power weapons being that redundant. Even with a full magazine for a sniper or a fusion rifle I couldn't kill an Elite.
The abilities and grenade abilities though are helped by your armor, some anon had an armor piece that increased grenade regeneration and such. So I'm not too worried about that but I'm just trying to have hope that they'll fix it.

Still no word from Bungie on what's going on or what their thoughts on the "constructive criticism" is yet.

Also I have an Xbone so I have no games to play other than Destiny 2.
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>>384947225
It was heavily buffed in other areas. It does an Arc AoE, activates much faster, and the indicator that it's usable never wears off. You can still Charge + 1 Punch to kill somebody, so it's still an easy kill if you get the jump on them. The issue with making it a 1shot is that it'd be too strong with the increased global ttk.
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>>384947275
>without knowing that they've already said they're going to fix it

I don't know why you think people should care considering they say that with every beta regardless of whether they fix it or not.

Again when is the last time a dev admitted the beta is the current version of the game and that nothing will change in the full release. When's the last time a game was significantly changed from its beta less than 2 months in.
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>>384947139
It's just a possible drop from the Strike or PvP.
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>>384934760
never trust /v/
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>In destiny 1 you alone could change the entire game with your abilities and grenades by playing smart

>In destiny 2 you feel so fucking weak and your abiliteis are so useless it's better to just take pot shots than risk going out at all

I feel bad for PCfags for getting this heap of shit.
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>>384947806
>You can trust me though
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>>384947723
Balancing the damage of some things isn't significant.
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>>384945983
Google destiny 2. A bunch of people are disappointed
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>tfw you didn't pre-order Destiny 1 and still wont for 2
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>playing better games with him
Because playing league, and overwatch is so fun xD, nah he was just plain retarded.


>Nobody here is your friend, we're here to debate the game yourself. SO you are retarded for making it for acting like people are actively trying to stop you from liking the game because they said the game was shit.
I never said anyone on here tried to make me not like the game... are you the retarded one?


>If all you care about is the loot tredmill then Bungie has no incentive to improve with Destiny, they will keep churning out the same shit piecemeal cut up in expansions and $60 "sequels". At least Halo expanded and evolved significantly from each release. Meanwhile Destiny is more stagnant than a shooter franchise from 10 years ago.
Don't worry buddy i play diablo 3 too, and halo after reach has been pretty shitty and
>buying a xbox one for halo 5
No thanks.
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>>384947049
>>384946760
>>384946720
>>384947596
>>384945987
Sounds bad bros, all I wanted was Destiny one gameplay with much more content, a new class, and more than 1 raid. The gameplay was nice and fast and your abilities were devastating.
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>>384946497
>pvp changes keep affecting pve

This shit won't change. It hasn't changed in years why would it now.
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>>384948041
cute guy
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Im just happy grenades and charges don't 1shot you anymore.
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>>384948202
I'll let you know when things are fast
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>>384935625
>back again, once again
That's as far as I got, Literally fuck this annoying faggot.
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>>384948309
Sticky grenades should though, now they just feel unsatisfying
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>>384947904
It most certainly is if it completely changes the meta of the game, changing the damage stats for a single weapon could make or break the balance of a game. Damage is significant when TTK is everything.
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>>384935625
Jesus that pointless fucking tangent about the sword
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>>384948441
Correct choice shouldve just been to cut stickies if they were a problem instead of making them feel shitty
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>>384948448
The changes they're making are only for PvE, not PvP, so no issues there.
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>>384935625
that was fucking embarrassing
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>>384948441
Lol, no. All they need is a lower CD so it can punish people who are grouped more often
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>>384948750
>Lol, no.
Why not
They feel like trash
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>>384948641
Damage still matters in PvE if it ends up trivializing it, or even worse, making it literally impossible.
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>>384948901
Only because they take 20 years to recharge
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>>384934980
Pvp is easy as fuck. Weapon spawn points. Player spawn points. Arena. Done.
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>SEASONAL
>WEAPONS
>IN
>AN
>F
>P
>S

H O T T R A S H
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>they admitted they wanted to go after the esports crowd

no wonder it's not fun anymore
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>>384947041
the biggest problem was people shoulder charging around corners, and thanks to shitty, shitty netcode since halo reach, you could blast a titan with a shotgun shell and still end up with a grill full of shoulder bones
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>>384936036
Play any game unless wait or get better bros
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>>384936837
They wouldnt lie r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ight?
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>>384949268
>tfw cancerous twitch community due to being on the PC platform
Oh well more players
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D2 reveal
>casual console friends losing their shit
>try to convince them pc is way to go because not locked 30fps
>even offer to help build them
>"I don't have the money"
>"PC gaming is toxic, look at overwatch subreddit"
>they plan on buying xbox one x anyway

D2 beta
>they pre-order just to get access to it 2 days early
>play it once it becomes open
>in group chat tell them it feels unsatisfying and heavily favors PvP balance in exchange for the fun of PvE
>"just a beta" and "months old build"

probably going to end up getting it anyway because they are basically the only friends that still regularly play games
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>>384948920
I'd almost prefer the game to be more trivialized, playing boss peekaboo gets tedious as fuck. Hiding behind a pillar for 50% of the boss fight it's difficult, just boring.
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>>384949569
PC = best performance
Ps4 = extra exclusives for a year/ most players
xbox=LOL
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>>384949832
>it's
isn't
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>>384947807

Post more Gwen
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>>384947504
>He didn't run Radiance Sunsinger
Most fun I had
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>>384950538
perv
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>>384949909
I have all platforms since I'm not a poorfag but my friends only get one platform and its been xbox since Halo 2 for them

>"It's where their friends are"
even though their friends play only shooters and sports games and come on once every couple of months
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>>384951073
Damn that sucks. Xbox one has been pretty shitty this gen, but i might buy one for halo 5 because it actually looks like a fun game for a few hours . Oh yah and also BC is cool i guess
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>>384934760
>In Destiny 1 the Guardians successfully defeat time-travelling terminators and crazy fucking elder god space magic bullshit time and time again
>In Destiny 2 the Guardians get completely BTFO for all time when the conventional-ass Space Romans finally decide to stop fucking about on Mars and take the fight to the enemy
>And also apparently flip the off switch on the Traveller and get rid of all of its Light despite being random warlike space aliens and not crazy Light-eating space sorcerers like the other guys who tried and failed miserably

I have to admit, I really enjoyed watching the god-modded Guardians getting their faces caved in by good old fashioned overwhelming firepower. Still extremely disappointed that the mission didn't have the player fighting intense street-to-street battles against the Cabal as they're blowing up the City, but I guess Bungie is allergic to actually showing the player the super important thing that all of their efforts are supposedly protecting.
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>>384950804

I dont know whaaat you on abooout...
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>>384951326
/v/ shit talks it alot, but honestly halo 5 has some of the best multiplayer in the series
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>>384934980
?? to me the PvP is the shit part, it's absolute garbage compared to the pve
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I am sure its going to flop just like how /v/ predicted Destiny 1 was going to flop too. This board knows so much about video games and life outside here.
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>>384934760
>franchis
There's one game. Do you know what a fastball is?
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>>384951326
Xbox really is garbage
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>>384952240
Not anymore there isn't, and Activision have been calling Destiny a franchise ever since the first game was announced.
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>>384951586
Yeah. It looks pretty fun and way better than wtf 4 was
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>>384951526
To be fair the only reason Oryx failed to take the tower was because he got cockblocked by the Reef

After the reef fell, nobody was there to stop Gaul
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