>Releases almost everything as dub-only >Liberal localisations

>>384932741
>Why do we like XSEED again
I don't. The rewrites alone make me hate them, good thing I learned japanese.

>>384932741
>Just because they usually don't censor things?
because the only alternative is learning moon, playing blind maybe with a fan translated script, or waiting a million years for a full fan translation.

>>384932741
>>Liberal localisations with regular rewrites
>>384933483
>The rewrites alone make me hate them
Can I get evidence of this please?

>>384934069
One dialogue of Gaius from Cold Steel 2 had him saying just "Rean..." and only that. in the japanese version. XSEED decided to make him say a paragraph.

>>384934069
Akiba's Trip had every instance of "onii-chan" replaced with a different bro pun, ie broseidon, broseph, brocade, etc.
Senran Kagura had the /a/ meme of "itadakimasu" being changed to "rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub".
In Cold Steel if you examine the female bathroom, Rean says "This is the girl's bathroom, I shouldn't go in there" in the Jap version, while the localisation has him say "This is the girl's bathroom. If I went in there my death would be blissful but swift."

Just off the top of my head. Depending on how lenient you are you could consider a lot of their dialogue to be rewrites because of how liberal their translations are.

>>384934461
I don't think you know what evidence is. You're meant to post a comparison.
Also even if it's true, you named only one instance which is irrelevant in grand scheme of things.
Good job. You're probably butthurt Vita user.

>>384934705
The first two are definitely insulting, but the last one I don't mind.

>>384934726
>>384934726
You're such a piece of shit.

If you wanted more, you can just ask.
All the "jokes" from the treasure chest in Cold Steel 2 and Trails in the Sky series didn't exist in the original. If you want fucking screenshots just wait I'm going to fucking get them.

Also
>vita user
Where the fuck did you get this from? You know Cold Steel is also available on the PS3 and I played that version.

>>384934832
>Rewrites are ok when I like them

>>384934726
>states what the japanese version had
>states what the xseed version had and what's different(one word vs a paragraph of text)
>in this thread about bad translations, anon doesn't even know what comparison means.

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>>384934069
Here's one with the person responsible confirming they did it for giggles. I don't have a comprehensive list because I'm not campaigning against them and don't save "evidence" for such occasions, but if you understand Japanese, play through one of the SK games. Aside from Katsuragi's rub a dub dub joke, there's a lot of lines that are spiced up to be more fun.

Weebs tend to give them a free pass because accurate translation to them means "no memes and keep the sexuality" and they don't look any further than that.

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>>384934726
Do you want more you fucking faggot?

>>384935723
Why do they go through all that extra work?

>>384935402
Yes

>>384935190
I like the chest messages
Give you a reason to search out all the chests and they were pretty great in the 3rd

Xseed are the modern Working Designs. It's thanks to them that alot of games saw an english release, but there will always be those criticizing them.
I really didn't see anything wrong with the PC versions of Trails 1-3 or Senran Kagura 1 and 2, but I can't speak for others games I didn't play. Are the japaneses really that expensive to include sometimes? Because the SK games always have them.

>>384935190
>Where the fuck did you get this from?
Vitagen has a hateboner for XSEED due to them porting stuff to PC instead of Vita.

As for the rest, I'd appreciate the screenshots. I just don't trust word of mouth shit much.

>>384936604
>Are the japaneses really that expensive

Forgot to type "japanese voices" there.

>>384935723
I can appreciate more, sure.

>>384936604
>Are the japaneses really that expensive to include sometimes?

Wasn't it recently proven that they're not and XSEED are just cheapskates.

>>384935467
>>384935723
Disgusting
Glad I pirated TitS.

>>384936604
>Xseed are the modern Working Designs.
Not Gaijinworks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwz916YdnMg
>I really didn't see anything wrong with the PC versions of Trails 1-3
TitS 3rd's NG+ is still broken despite it being released at the start of May. I don't think they've put out a single patch at all yet.
>Are the japaneses really that expensive to include sometimes? Because the SK games always have them.
It all depends on the companies and people involved, and whether making a dub would be worth it. No one wants to hear the SK characters being voiced by English hags with how sexualised it is, and you can bet that many of the pompous English VAs wouldn't want to do it either. Though given Xseed's consistent lack of jap voices they're just cheap in general.

>>384935723
>Haha
Fuck did I hated hearing that word after playing TitS where the characters would literally say it every ten lines of dialogue. I thought the writing was just bad but now I know it's XShit's fault.

>>384936604
senran kagura 2 has a fun bug where if you try to quit the game too quickly after saving the entire system restarts.

>>384936597
Because chests had different text springs for the same phrase (this chest is empty or something like that) they decided to give something unique to each. Although I'd prefer reading some trivia about the series than some retard memes.

>>384936604
>Xseed are the modern Working Designs.
Lunar games have MUCH more offensive localizations than TitS Trilogy.
Can't speak about the rest of XSEED stuff though since I haven't played anything else.

>>384932741
They kept the titties and asses in. The rest of that stuff apparently isn't very important to their audience.

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Remember when people were praising XSeed as the most based company for localising Senran Kagura?

Their translation was pretty fucking awful and a sign of things to come

>>384932741

Or, you know, you could be not playing Senran or Trails, or Akiba at all. Xseed had the guts to put it out largely unchanged. Xseed is the best localizer around.

>>384937379
>You can't criticize anything ever! Just be happy you have it!

>>384937379
>Xseed is the best localizer around.
You're not really wrong, but that doesn't mean they don't have a lot of room for improvement.

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>you can't even trust xseed anymore

why live

>>384937648
live to learn japanese

The dialogue options in Ys: Memories of Celecta are cancer. Anybody know if they weren't in bad in Japanese? It feels like XSEED just didn't understand Adol's character at all.

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>>384937379
Yet they don't have any money.

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>>384936783

>>384937695
Truly a fate worse then death.

>>384937124
>Haha

For what reason? What the fuck was so funny?

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>>384937725
I like the reference but I dislike it being a rewrite.

Square Enix are probably the best localizers around. They did a great job with Nier Automata and FFXV.

>>384937719
>Adol
>Character

>>384937815
There is actually nothing wrong with that one

>>384937815
What does nip one say?

>>384937983
Squeenix didn't localise Automata and FF15 is rewrite city, just like 13 was.

>>384937815
This is hardly a rewrite to be fair, considering the context for her outburst being her thinking her dad's brought her a present.

>>384938105
"What's with that kid?"

>>384937983
Atlus USA can be good too but some localizations are plain awful. Do they have an A and B team or something?

>>384938132
Rewrite city is fine if the rewriting is good. It's only a problem when it's bad. And who localized Automata then? I assumed it was Squeenix.

>get Akiba's Beat because I want to give it a chance
>English dub is horrible and Japanese dub makes the extensive fluffing of the English script painfully blatant

>>384938132
>FF15 is rewrite city, just like 13 was.
Explain, for both pls

>>384937815
>nannno, kono kodomo!?
what

>>384934705
Not liberal you stupid cunt

>>384938173
>Jap dialogue has her asking what's up with the kid
>English dialogue has her assuming the kid is her present

The Jap dialogue has her putting aside her present to look at the situation at hand, the English dialogue has her being so self-absorbed as to either think the kid is her present or to be ignoring the situation to make it about her not getting a present. It's a bad change.

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>>384938272
>Rewrite city is fine if the rewriting is good. It's only a problem when it's bad.

>>384938349
>kodomo
ko

>>384937695
but it's so hard waaa
not easy to find places to learn in my country either

>>384938032
You ever played an Ys game, man? Adol is the epitome of the "silent protagonist with an established character and personality."

There's a great moment in Ys II where the entire game, they give you "false choices" where you can say Yes or No to help people, but you usually have to say Yes to progress the story. Then around the end of the game, one of the characters who he'd grown attached to was in trouble, and someone asked if you would help her. Instead of giving you a choice, it said "Adol said yes without hesitation." It was the perfect way of justifying and cashing in on all the choices it gave you before in order to demonstrate Adol's personality.

>>384935402
A straight japanese translation sounds stilted and boring, to be quite honest. I would even prefer a woolsey translation over a choppy, straight translation.

>>384934705
Most of Rean's flavor localization was ok though.
In CS's case, Falcom was in the wrong because they wrote him as the blandest self-insert that only a jap could stomach.

>>384937719
Nobody knows what Adol's character is. The guy's been dead for over a thousand years. The games are just some faggot reading his journals.

>>384938272
>And who localized Automata then?
8-4, same company that did the original Nier.

>>384938310
Can't speak for 15 but the reason Lightning's reception is so different between the east and west is because of how the localisation changed her dialogue to make her constantly standoffish and needlessly aggressive where she wasn't before. It's been ages so I don't have specific examples that come to mind outside of one in LR; a guy guarding a tunnel greets her and she greets him back and asks what's up, whereas in the localisation he greets her and she responds by telling him to back off or she'll hurt him, which comes out of nowhere. Of course, the dub VA's delivery didn't help either.

>>384937936
Nothing. Characters would just throw in a "haha" for no reason. That's why it was annoying.

>>384937983
Automata was from 8-4.

NO WAIT, THEY'RE TERRIBLE APPARENTLY BECAUSE OF GUNVOLT.

>>384938592
I've played every game in the series in some iteration, and he had pretty much no personality beyond "generic silent hero". I don't even remember what he was like in Seven, or who you're talking about in 2. But you'll have to explain how the dialogue choices in Celceta ruined him. Keep in mind he was amnesiac for half of that too.

>>384937719
A lot of the replies felt like something in Persona dunno how it was in Japanese. VIII has them too but this time he voices the line too. Not sure if he says the exact phrase you choose though. Could be just a simple "Yeah" or something.

>>384938391
I interpreted it as with the subtext of "...and why is he here when I should be getting a present?" due to her expression. I think it's a valid localization, but I understand how you got concern toward the situation out of it. The voice acting in the vita version probably gives better understanding as to how that line's meant to be read.

>>384938773
I only remember Estelle doing that

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>>384938869
And Drakengard 3. And Xenoblade X. And Awakening and Echoes.

Games that translate Japanese too literally have stiff sounding scripts

See Persona 5

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>>384938349
>>nannno

>>384939205
did they do that pickle shit too? Jesus Christ if it's the same company

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>>384938949
>>384938712
The dialogue choices were completely autistic. Most of the time, you have the choice between the normal choice and the autistic choice, but every now and then, the game makes you choose between two autistic choices. It reeks of the "sarcasm" option in Fallout 4.

This isn't the worst example, but the only one I could find on google, and shows what they're often like. Someone asks "who's this?" about the party member you've known for a day or two and you can basically either say "he's my best friend in the whole universe" or "he's a fucking nobody" with no in-between at all.

>>384939304
I meant nannano

>>384939367
No, Fates was Treehouse.

>>384939205
And every Soulcalibur, and Shadows of the Damned, and every Dead or Alive, and Dragon Quest VI, and Tekken 6, and Fire Emblems before that, and the later Wild Arms games, and Jeane de Arc, and Tales of Vesperia, and Rouge Galaxy.

What was wrong with Xenobalde X's localization, by the way? Translators don't do hard edits, there's a reason why Xseed actually had to fucking cancel a few releases, because they don't have programmers.

>>384939253
P5's stiff script has nothing to do with them being literal. In a lot of cases they weren't literal at all. ATLUS's translators are just terrible at conveying voice.

>>384937368
They're still pretty cool for bringing over the games mostly untouched outside of a not so top tier writing team for localization.

See Compile Heart International and NISA for worse meme localizations and censorship respectively.

>>384939463
You're giving Adol way too much credit here. I love him because he's a walking apocalypse, but us knowing next to nothing about him is a deliberate move by Falcom. As Kondo said it best in an interview it's up to the player to decide what kind of a person he really was. For all we know Dogi could have been the real hero and Adol just lied about it and took all the credit.

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>>384938287
The name changes here are just incompetence, how stupid do you have to be to start doing voice recording before confirming pronunciations? Japs love using unusual readings of kanji, this is some basic shit.

>>384939613
They did most Tales games, I believe. I don't recall seeing them on Berseria or Hearts R though, not sure on Zestiria because I never beat it.

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>>384939463

>>384939765
Why the fuck did they go all in on akiba's beat being dubbed of all games?

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You think this is going to impact Tom's influence on localisations? Will the rewrites and censorship get even worse?

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>>384939463
Another example of a normal choice and an autistic one.

>>384939745
Even if that's the case, it's not really an excuse for the dialogue options to just be bad. The previous Ys games never had choices like this, or even dialogue like this. Especially not from the main character. I can chock some of it up to Adol losing his memory at the beginning of the game and maybe having a little bit of brain damage, but I can only suspend my disbelief so much.

>>384938702
>The original writers were in the wrong because I didn't like how they wrote it
>The localisation is in the right for rewriting it
You can't make this shit up.

>>384940002
Then don't play Celceta and go for Dawn or Mask instead. With the way the lore works nowadays pretty much everything is canon.

>>384939765
I still can't believe Tom's fit over the KKK business. What a dumb hill to die on.

>>384940152
Sure, but I bought the game. I can't unbuy it. It doesn't even kill the game for me entirely, just annoys me. What I'm really curious about, and why I brought it up in this thread at all, is if it was that bad in Japanese, or if this is all XSEED's doing.

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>>384939613
Surprise surprise, companies change over time. You'll notice that most of 8-4's bitched about localisations are their recent ones.
>What was wrong with Xenobalde X's localization, by the way?
You pretending to live under a rock? The pointless name changes which also fucked up the lore (dolls were called dolls for a reason, skells makes no fucking sense, the area names were vague descriptions on purpose because it's a planet being newly explored, they threw that out the window), removing the breast slider for god knows what reason, removing outfits for Lyn and the fundoshi for the entire cast, and shitty script changes all around.

>>384932741
Christ people. Do you really have this little to do during the wait for CS PC? Come on. There's other games to play. Places to go. People to talk to.

>>384940350
So did I and it didn't bother me at all. Adol being an autistic dick was extremely enjoyable. Reminded me of his falcom gakuen incarnation.

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>>384939253
>Persona 5 is a literal translation
This is the dumbest meme. It's not even remotely literal, it's just poorly edited.

>>384940514
Again, it makes a difference whether he was an autistic dick in the original Japanese or if it was just in English. That's what I want to know before I can decide if I like XSEED as localizers or not.

>>384940439
>dolls were called dolls for a reason, skells makes no fucking sense
Them and treehouse though dolls sounded lame and girly so they changed it to skells because it sounds cool to them.

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>>384940439
Don't forget completely changing the meaning of BLADE.

>>384940060
Rean is a hollow shell of a character and objectively bad when compared to Estelle/Joshua. I would be mad if Xseed was overriding Rean's personality, but the truth is that Rean had no personality to begin with (and not because the plot needed it that way).

>>384938371
Liberal doesnt just mean political affiliation you daft cunt

SoS2 seems to have pretty good localization.

>>384938562
Just get namasensei as your teacher you stupid bitch

>>384935723

Literally nothing wrong with this. Check my 5 as I derail your shit thread nerd

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>>384940002
Only one I could be bothered finding a comparison for since it's right at the start of the game.
>This is?
>That's kind of you.
It's the same base but the localisation exaggerated it.

>>384941124
Haha. Yeah XSEED can do no wrong.

>>384939253
Ideally I would want a natural sounding translation that keeps all the stuff from the original, but that's not possible apparently, so if the choices are
>stiff literal translation
vs
>memespoutin (because that adds "personality") and renaming (because "we think it sounds lame")
I would honestly prefer a stiff, literal translation over the characters spouting the old internet memes or just them completely removing parts they don't like

>>384939956
Akiba's Trip 2 sold 300,000 in Japan and 360,000 in the west so they started working on Akiba's Beat and gave it the full dub treatment before it was done being developed in Japan and before they saw how catastrophically it bombed.

Games that sell in the 100k range are huge successes for these companies, so AT2 doing 360k was probably seen as amazing and gave them blinders.

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>>384940721

>>384940439
Autism

>>384939985
Tom is too good for that company.

>>384941457
Had a feeling that's what was going on. They call it "punching up" a line, when they "spice it up" to make it less bland sounding, but it only works when the writer doing it is actually genuinely charming and funny and doesn't come across like some hip internet teenager.

>>384941609
Slow day at the office, John?

>>384941573
Wonder if XB2 will be getting the same treatment.

>>384941917
This really pisses me off. Some fucking deadbeat shmuck translating niche japanese video games for a tiny company decides the script that the original writers made isn't good enough, and what it needs is his personal touch to """improve""" it, so he just changes the fucking line and nothing gets done. If you complain you're a nerd who takes this shit too seriously, no one at the company gives a shit, the jap devs are too out of touch to acknowledge anything that goes on with the localization and if the translators were just replacing every line with Disney movie quotes they'd be fine with it, so we'll keep getting Joe Bob's personal rewrites on every fucking game that comes out of Japan.

>>384942323
XB2 is being done by Treehouse. So it'll be even worse.

>>384942372
>If you complain you're a nerd
this is the most retarded part
>company makes a shit job
>but you're not allowed to complain because lol video games am I right? Who cares, now give me your money for our shit prodcut

>>384940814
That dumb faagot was claiming it is liberal so go neck yer self

>>384942519
>Treehouse
Fuck. Guess we'll see see Pyra with a boob curtain or her wearing a new outfit.

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>>384942372
How do we get the japs to give a shit? I remember someone asked Yoko Taro on Twitter about the localisation of Automata and Taro said he was fine with 8-4 rewriting the game because he didn't think his story was good in the first place.

>>384942981
Supposedly all three branches are working together on what is and isn't allowed now that the system is region free. What we saw from e3 shouldn't change.

>>384942975
And it is liberal you greasy gobslobber

>>384942372
I'm the person you were replying to, but just to be clear, I don't quite agree with you.

> decides the script that the original writers made isn't good enough, and what it needs is his personal touch to """improve""" it

That's not quite how it works. The original script is in Japanese. There is no "original script" in English. Translation isn't just a matter of translating word by word. There's an important factor to take into account called "voice".

For example, you could take Shakespeare and translate it to Japanese or some other language and make it sound like the most boring, bland shit ever, just by translating each word to its simplest analogue in that language.

In order to translate properly, you need to understand the "voice" or tone of what's being conveyed, and how it comes across to speakers of the original language, and you need to be a good enough writer to convey that same voice in the new language. Most of the problem translations and meme-spouting in games happens because the translators aren't good writers. They're TRYING to convey the right voice, but failing.

It's not so much a question of "they're not being literal enough" or "they're changing too much" so much as they're not understanding the original work properly, and that's leading to them being poor translators.

>>384943205
>They're TRYING to convey the right voice, but failing.
If they were actually trying to do that they wouldn't be making blatant rewrites that don't even attempt to preserve what was originally said.

>>384937124
Actually, the original Japanese text is filled with "haha's" all over the place. Xseed actually downgraded the amount of time it happens. Like, in Ao, Lloyd alone probably does that fucking haha more times than i can count.

>>384943176
Huh really? Interesting. If they really are working that closely I wonder if NoA will reach a boiling point and be told to fuck off by NoJ. Because all the shit we get in the West would not fly with the Japanese fans. Actually NoE is a bit less censorship happy too right? NoA would be outnumbered then.

>>384943389
Did you not see the reply in that chain showing them replacing "..." with a paragraph of dialogue including a "haha"?

>>384943464
NoE was in charge of the Fatal Frame localizations. Guess what, both were censored.

Also, Xenoblade also had edits for censorship.

>>384942372
>Some fucking deadbeat shmuck
Any anon have that screencap of some fucker saying "My work is half Oh God and half thank God I can change this".

>>384943205
how is taking a completely neutral line and change into memes ever "trying to convey the right voice"?

>>384943495
I know i saw it, i'm saying that in the original Japanese, it still happens a fucking lot too, and most scenes where there's people talking like in SC, there's usually one haha or two, and sometimes it's not included in the translation. So i guess it would be more fair to say that they evened it out.

>>384932741
The only people that like them are ironic weebs and censored gaming and/or Tom shills. They're far from the best localization company faggots claim they are

>>384943589
>NoE was in charge of the Fatal Frame localizations.
Source? NoE did 2's remake, but I've never heard of them being responsible for 5.
>Also, Xenoblade also had edits for censorship.
I've heard this said repeatedly but I've never heard of a single example outside of Black Face.

When the fuck is Tits SC gonna be on sale for lower than 19.99?!

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>>384943205
>Translation isn't just a matter of translating word by word. There's an important factor to take into account called "voice".
This is much less of a factor than shit """localizers""" and their apologists claim it is. Of course you can't just fucking translate a script word by word, but no one's complaining about small, necessary changes (because you don't need fucking rewrites to properly convey voice, regardless of what Treehouse told you).

The problem here is blatantly changing the original content due to shitty intentions. Sometimes it's just the translator being an obnoxious retard who thinks "this line is totally gross!" and decides to change it, sometimes it's pushing an agenda, sometimes it's pure incompetence or just plain not giving a shit, and there are even accounts of """"localizers"""" making unnecessary changes to games just the create more work for themselves so that they can get paid more.

The entire concept of a localization is fucking retarded. No other medium does this, because people actually take them seriously. No one localizes books or movies. No one buys a "localized" version of a fucking Russian book where characters names and cultural aspects get changed because "Western readers might not be used to Russian culture", because in no medium other than video games can you find a consumer base that's so willing to not only put up with any sort of bullshit you might throw at them, but even encourage it and mock anyone who complains.

>>384943653
>>384943349
I didn't say they were trying very hard. The problem here is that they didn't try hard enough.

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What about those parts where you'd think it was a joke translations, and it's in fact in the original Nip version too?

I swore that Tita's "???(<Has no idea what's going on)" was a joke translation, and she just went "I don't get it" in the original.

>>384944009
I think it says a lot about the state of the industry when you come across lines like that and have to question whether you're looking at a rewrite or not.

>>384935467
I don't see what's wrong with the screencap.

Tokyo Xanadu is fucking great, Aksys should do all Falcom game localizations now.

>>384943907
The credits list Pole to Win Europe as being the main localization team.

And just for a funfact, the team who localized Ni No Kuni is the team who does Dragon Quest localization now.

>>384943947
Why are people like this even in localization teams? Did they truly learn to read/speak/write and translate Japanese just to fucking censor shit?

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>>384944292
I hope you're joking.

>>384944295
So you didn't have any examples for Xenoblade, then?

>>384943956
Yeah, it's kind of sad that we're still stuck in the 90's era of soccer mom censorship with anything that's potentially "problematic" getting removed. It reminds me of how every allusion to anything remotely religious was cut from Yugioh cards in the US. Even guns are replaced with toyish looking guns. Or stuff like the 4Kids dubs, with their shadow realm nonsense.

One would think that video games for an increasingly adult audience in the 2010's when anyone can go on the internet and see everything that got cut/changed in the Western release (whereas in the 90's the "original Japanese version" was often an almost mythical dream of unaltered and uncut content that may or may not really exist) this shit would not pass, but evidently it does and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.

Basically, fuck video games.

>>384944258
Because you are also a sperg.
>shitty writer changes the dialogue because of autism

>>384944292
I too would enjoy playing the adventures of Esther Bright and Legion Dark Fang Joshua Bright in the game Miracle of the Sky localized by Aksys.

>>384943956
>The problem here is blatantly changing the original content due to shitty intentions. Sometimes it's just the translator being an obnoxious retard who thinks "this line is totally gross!" and decides to change it, sometimes it's pushing an agenda
See, this is where I have a different in opinion. You and I think different things are going on in those translators' heads.

When some feminist translator "changes" a line to include a bunch of bullshit tumblr buzzwords like what recently happened to that Dragon Maid anime, what you think is going on is that they saw the original line and thought "no, this won't do, I need to make this more PROGRESSIVE" and changed it to suit their agenda.

What's actually going on, at least the way I see it, is that they never "saw" the original line to begin with. Their own vocabulary and worldview is so warped, that that's how they read the line in the first place. This is why I said "voice" is important. Because anything you write, unless you're a really good writer, will necessarily have your own voice projected onto it.

And when your voice is distinctive and annoying to a lot of the target audience, it's going to feel like you've "changed" the thing you're translating to reflect your own personality. This is why I think people who aren't good writers, or have warped personalities or vocabularies that don't represent those of their target audience, aren't qualified to be translators.

>>384944258
Someone asked for evidence of rewrites. That just happens to be one case where the actual employee who did it confirmed it and that there was no reason for it other than having fun.

>>384944531
Yes. They specifically get into the industry so that they can have control over content and dictate what is ok for people to play.

>>384944668
>Bitches about gatekeeping.
>Gatekeeps Japanese game.
Fucking social justice cucks.

>>384944540
xshill cant get the japanse voice so there are worse by default no matter what they do.

>>384937124
"haha" every ten lines of dialogue was actually in the japanese games too

Trio of towns dlc fucking when

>>384944653
Sorry to wake you up from the wonderful dream world you live in, but take a look at >>384943947 before killing yourself for being such a delusional retard.

>>384944543
Black Face and names with God were altered. Someone would have a fit about it.

>>384944653
>When some feminist translator "changes" a line to include a bunch of bullshit tumblr buzzwords like what recently happened to that Dragon Maid anime
Hoo boy, what happened this time?

>>384944885
Never ever. Just like Crossbell.

>>384943389
>>384944823
>no proof

Sure they were.

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>>384944657
>>384944598
>silly father, we can't get married
or
>you're a creep :^)

What's the issue?

>>384944965
>I can't speak moon

>>384944914
Well sure, I guess there are a few people like that who are terrible at their job for other reasons. But what I'm talking about is a real phenomenon.

>>384944540
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!

>>384945028
>Still no proof

>>384944540
I'll play double's advocate here. English is completely fucked when it comes to traps and reverse traps and the dialogue surrounding them. The guy likely used a non-gender specific word to refer to his daughter in the first instance, and the player is meant to understand it as son as part of the reverse trap gimmick. The only way to do this in English is to have the father refer to her entirely as "they" or "my child", but no one speaks like that and it wouldn't preserve the punchline very well.

>>384945129
Yes anon, I'm going to play two 100 hour long games in both English and Japanese to compile a list of Hahas in both versions to prove it just to you.

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I'm glad that XSEED is doing SoS ToT DLC.
Hopefully they don't overcharge it. Everything less than $10 seems fair since the released copy of the game in japan was around $50.

>>384945078
Please provide proof then. I provided proof that what I claimed does indeed happen, please do the same.

>>384944540
Why they use cold steel font?

>>384944939
If you're okay with a leddit link I found from googling it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/6l6d5n/dub_writers_using_characters_as_ideological/

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>>384932741
>Liberal localizations with regular rewrites
>Incredibly slow localization times, yet they still constantly miss release dates
>Release games with bugs and take forever to patch them if they do so at all

Why do people like NisA again?

>>384932741
After blindly buying trails 1 and then seeing in horror it lacked kanji, yeah pretty fucking not liked
lesson learned, xseed are hot ゴミ

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>>384944792
I didn't defend Xseed though. I'm just saying that you must be blind if you think Aksys did a good job on it. Not to mention, how they block people on twitter for trying to point out problems in the localization.

>>384945205
>double's advocate
Never try to talk about anything related to the English language again.

>The only way to do this in English is to have the father refer to her entirely as "they" or "my child", but no one speaks like that
It's a million times better than calling her a son in one line before immediately calling her daughter in the next.

>it wouldn't preserve the punchline very well
How come?

>>384945205
>double's advocate
Idiot.
> English is completely fucked when it comes to traps and reverse traps and the dialogue surrounding them.
This has absolutely nothing to do with traps or reverse traps, it's simply a matter of the father being vague about his child's gender and Tsubasa being a gender-neutral name.
>The only way to do this in English is to have the father refer to her entirely as "they" or "my child", but no one speaks like that and it wouldn't preserve the punchline very well.
It would do so a lot better than the father explicitly referring to his daughter as his son.

>>384945256
Haha. I'll be waiting.

>>384944540
At least their translation is 100% free of memes or witty puns unlike memeseed ones

XSeed arent perfect but there's literally nobody better.

>>384932741
>original Japanese version
>they all just say "Rean..." over and over again
1:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh3YOma4XJs

>XSEED localization
>they all just repeat lines from the previous game
3:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DbeKF026oc

>>384932741
Because weebs are retarded. They are used to terrible writing from all the waifu-bait shit anime they watch every day, they don't know that actual quality writing is an option. Nothing matters to them if they can see another set of imaginary tits.

>>384945851
>Aksys
>100% free of memes or witty puns
I've played their BlazBlue localisations and I find myself doubting your statement.

>>384945851
They changed one of the character's lines, and basically the way he addresses people though., it's fucking weird. Which character in Xseed had meme shit?

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>>384945975
The English version is better ;)

>>384945310
Same assets from the same engine.

Didn't xseed hire the official Japanese artist to draw extra in-game art for cold steel that wasn't in the japanese version?

>>384945313
Funimation are truly cancer.

>>384945525
>>384945575
Do I really have to explain that joke to you two?

>How come?
Since no one talks about their own kid like that, it'll immediately set off a flag that the text is deliberately omitting the gender. Slightly related, this happens in the latest Ace Attorney game and what telegraphed the twist to me: there's a conversation about a character's daughter and it takes a good three or four minutes for anyone to say a gender specific pronoun.

>This has absolutely nothing to do with traps or reverse traps
It does. Where do you think "I completely mistook her for a boy" came from? The point is, it's much easier to obscure a character's gender naturally in Japanese.

BIGGEST DUB EVER

>>384946198
I remember reading that they have to pick up a font actually, it's not really an asset.

>>384945301
It's just basic psychology. If you constantly immerse yourself in certain words and vocabulary, those are going to be the words that come to mind when you go to translate something. As proof, look at anime fantranslations vs official translations.
Fantranslations are generally done in a casual setting, by people with colorful vocabulary.

If someone in a manga, anime or game shouts:
>糞!
The literal translation for that is feces or excrement.

A fan translator would probably translate it as
>"Shit!"

But a professional translator sitting in an office setting who has to be more careful about their vocabulary is more likely to translate it as
>"Crap!"

Both are accurate, but they convey different "voice". Which one should be used depends on the context, how it comes across in the original, who the target audience is, etc. Having Goku and Vegeta constantly yelling "Fuck! Shit!" is a little unfitting for a Kids' comic book, but if you were translating something aimed at adults, translating it as "crap!" would seem unfitting.

>>384932741
so wheres the republican localization at?

>>384932741
At least NISA gives the option of sub with Japanese voices. They even patched that in to Danganronpa on steam free of charge.

>>384946427
This has nothing to do with the stuff people actually complain about. Please provide a relevant example instead of desperate strawmen.

>>384946457
Treehouse

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>>384946340
>Do I really have to explain that joke to you two?
Idiot.
>Since no one talks about their own kid like that, it'll immediately set off a flag that the text is deliberately omitting the gender. Slightly related, this happens in the latest Ace Attorney game and what telegraphed the twist to me: there's a conversation about a character's daughter and it takes a good three or four minutes for anyone to say a gender specific pronoun.
You are ignoring that it's still a better alternative than the father referring to his daughter as his son.
>It does. Where do you think "I completely mistook her for a boy" came from? The point is, it's much easier to obscure a character's gender naturally in Japanese.
Which has nothing to do with traps or reverse traps, you fucking idiot. The character just assumed it was a boy based on the name and the way the father talked about them. If you think that somehow makes Tsubasa a reverse trap then you either have no idea what trap means or you're even stupider than I gave you credit for.

>>384946261
Only for the fake-out credits in CS2.

>Japanese version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NuVj4xKWsQ
>XSEED version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0VELBJUNu8

Ironically XSEED's version gives us more insight into Millium's backstory that the Japs don't have.

So will they do CS 3 or are they fucked? Their decisions lately are downright bizarre.

>>384946340
>no one talks about their own kid like that
But in your country parents frequently get their children's gender wrong?

>>384946605
I don't know how I can be "strawmanning" when I'm not even arguing against any point in particular, just explaining a phenomenon that occurs.

If you employ someone who constantly uses feminist terminology in their every day speech to translate something, they're going to use that terminology in their translation too, because that's how they talk. It seems extremely basic to me. Are you actually arguing against that point?

I was never arguing that that makes it okay. I was saying they shouldn't be hired in the first place and that they aren't qualified to be translators because they effectively speak a different brand of English from the general public.

>>384946427
None of this is addressing what the guy you replied to said at all.

>>384946525
>They even patched that in to Danganronpa on steam free of charge.
What, it was dub-only at release? Why?

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>>384946525
True, but even they are not free from bullshit. literally nobody is perfect. They get to give you original nip voices, but then you're stuck with memes and shit ports.

>>384946964
>feminist terminology
If you're gonna keep bringing up this ridiculous notion then provide an example of it. I don't care if it's a made up scenario (because obviously this has never actually happened), just come up with a situation where "feminist terminology" could be the cause behind a shitty translation.

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>>384947073
What a bizarre mix of an early version of the image and edits to the content.

>>384947241
Were you not paying attention when I brought up the Dragon Maid example?

See here:
>>384945313

>>384935723
When does this scene happen again?

>>384946742
>Idiot.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/advocate%20diamond%20dozen/
I'm not wasting my post for the pasta.

>You are ignoring that it's still a better alternative than the father referring to his daughter as his son.
That may be true, but it's still extremely clunky. So is a guy explicitly saying the wrong gender, but I at least understand what they were trying to get it.

>Which has nothing to do with traps or reverse traps
What would you call a character that looks like the opposite gender enough to be mistaken for them? It's not just the father's talking about her, it's the combination of her boyish appearance and the misleading text.

>>384947531
Start of chapter 2.

>>384947384
You were arguing that the changes were happening because the translator saw what the character said and interpreted it in a way that aligns with their views, and that they weren't changing it on purpose. That is quite clearly not happened in Dragon Maid, they blatantly changed dialogue to something entirely different to push an agenda, just like the Gamergate line in Prison School and making the Moogles tumblrites in Type-0.

>>384947384
So bringing up the patriarchy completely out of nowhere is "feminist terminology"? Like a translator who just happens to be a feminist innocently included that line because that's how he'd have phrased it normally? If I translate "good afternoon" to "THE FUHRER WISHES YOU A GOOD AFTERNOON, MY ARYAN BROTHER! GLORY TO THE THIRD REICH!", it's just my subconscious slipping in some pesky nazi terminology into my professional translation?

>>384947547
>What would you call a character that looks like the opposite gender enough to be mistaken for them? It's not just the father's talking about her, it's the combination of her boyish appearance and the misleading text.
A trap actually pretends to be the opposite gender or actively hides their gender you fucking moron, she's just a tomboy.

>>384944551
Remember One Piece being censored so bad everything was waterguns? Do you also remember in DBZ how they could not say someone died but went to the next dimension?

Now a days in anime it does not happen at all. Even DBZ Kai uncensored everything and made it what the original manga had with no filler.

It may be awhile even 6 years before we start having the same thing happen in Video games.

>>384947884
>It may be awhile even 6 years before we start having the same thing happen in Video games.
I doubt it. Things are getting worse, not better.

Staying dub-only will end up killing xseed if they don't reverse course on that purposeful decision that "these jRPGs won't sell if they don't have dubbing since READING IS FOR FAGGOTS!" Every other publisher has been making the shift to dual audio. It's time; obviously Falcom isn't the problem when they let NISA keep original JPN audio.

>>384947876
>A trap actually pretends to be the opposite gender or actively hides their gender you fucking moron
Neck yourself. A trap is a boy who looks like a girl. Nothing else is implied. Stop making up new meanings for old lingo.

>>384947702
No, I honestly think the translator is just that delusional and thinks that's how the line would sound in English. I don't think it's malice, just incredible incompetence.

>>384947756
If you were a Nazi who often spoke like that, then yes, I would think that. Just like when XSEED localized that "trap" line in that controversy a while back, it demonstrated that that's the word the translator thinks of for the word used in Japanese, and evidently, that didn't align with the general public's vocabulary, hence the outrage.

>>384944653
Actually. On Dragon Maid the translation did not have that, but in the dub they changed it only in that. I do agree with you but if you keep it on Sub you will be fine.

>>384935723
This is hardly even a flaw, it's just really bizarre on XSEED's part. There's literally no reason for why they changed a bunch of one-word texts/one-liners into fullblown paragraphs in Trails games but they did it shit ton on times.

Someone post the Alisa one where she says "..." in the Japanese one while in XSEED's translation she drops 20 lines.

>>384948046
Except that if you know their gender from the outset then it's not a trap. Why do you think they're called "traps" in the first place? It's because you don't know until it's too late.

>>384932741
Not to mention how they BEG people to buy their games multiple times. XSEED a shit.

>>384948032
Ys 8 and Tokyo Xanadu are both fairly new games, people are arguing that Falcom have taken note and changed their contracts to ensure dual-audio for western licensors now. Whether that's true or not will be illustrated by XSEED's new releases of Falcom games going forward, if they release anything newer than CS3 as dub-only then they can fuck right off.

>>384948049
>No, I honestly think the translator is just that delusional and thinks that's how the line would sound in English. I don't think it's malice, just incredible incompetence.
You're fucking retarded then, there is zero relevance between the original dialogue and the rewrite. It is entirely an intentional change.

>>384947040
Well NISA mentioned It had sub on there actually but they did add in Japanese text so you can play it on the Japanese language not just voiced.

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>>384948049
>Just like when XSEED localized that "trap" line in that controversy a while back, it demonstrated that that's the word the translator thinks of for the word used in Japanese, and evidently, that didn't align with the general public's vocabulary, hence the outrage.
>A few crazy trannies on twitter are the general public
Fuck off, retard. Trap was used as the western equivalent of otoko no ko for well over a decade before trannies started getting pissy about it.

>>384948306
What do you think their excuse will be when there's no dual audio in CS3? There's not enough space on the disk?

>>384948049
>If you were a Nazi who often spoke like that, then yes, I would think that.
Are you fucking shitting me right now

To take the example provided by >>384947702
, do you seriously, honestly think that someone just accidentally, innocently mentions fucking Gamer Gate of all things in a random "h-hentai bakaaaa~" anime line translation because that's just what they're used to?

If you're unironically going to answer "yes" just take a break, go drink a warm cup of cyanide and come back later once you've calmed down.

>>384947073
No they are not. But let's be honest everyone shits on them far more than XSeed when XSeed makes a lot of mistakes as well.

>>384948489
For CS3 they'll argue that since it's the same series, actors, and companies that the licensing situation didn't change. Anything after CS3 won't have that defence.

>>384935723
Damn, that's not localizing, it's straight out Golden Sun-izing a game, did they also add headshaking between dialogues?

>>384948150
>Why do you think they're called "traps" in the first place?
The "trap" connotation was because of people posting images of cute anime boys who looked like girls without mentioning that they were boys. The ones doing the "trapping" were the random internet posters, the characters often made no effort to hide their gender.

>>384948306
They better give us dual audio. Most females are fucking atrocious on Cold Steel.

>>384947040
No, I'm pretty sure they had JP voices from the get go. Anon is probably confused that with with the JP/CN text they patched in later.

>>384947976
Things have to get worse before they get better.

>>384948751
>FEEEEEMMMMMMAAAAALLLLLLLEEEEESSSS

>>384948751
>Eng Alisa

It doesn't help that she's a shit character.

>>384947884
>Even DBZ Kai uncensored everything and made it what the original manga had with no filler.
This is false. There's a 4kids variation of Kai that had to rename techniques like "Spirit Bomb" and "Galick Gun" into "Spirit Blast" and "Galick Blast"
They also made Mr. Popo blue. 4kids died kicking and screaming to the end.

>>384948049
>Trap controversy

Dude traps have been apart of Japanese culture for almost decades. Only Trannies would take it personal and not learn to take a joke.

>>384948032
Who cares about dual audio when the text is different from what they say?
It's time for original language only. It's time to scrap your shitty english language. It's time for you to learn 日本語.

>>384949089
>everyone hypes up Cold Steel as one of the best JRPGs in quite some time
>start it up with high expectations
>get a boob grabbing scene with Alisa and she's completely obnoxious about it
I can't describe how fast my interest plummeted.

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>>384949386
"Can I call you miss busty?"

>>384949392
This. It's generic, harem LN trash.

I'm still stuck on CS 2 cuz it just keeps getting ridiculous.

>>384948032
I can agree it's like watching anime without voice acting it looks good but it gets old and stale.

>>384939698
NISA didn't censor Danganronpa though.

>>384950360
They did censor other games though.

>>384950360
Not censorship, but Genocide Jack is still retarded

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I own every XSEED game available and love their localizations. I will continue to support them.

I hope this makes all you fucktards seethe with rage

Hardly anybody likes XSEED. They're unprofessional hacks who drown themselves in memes because alcohol long stopped working to curb the harsh realities for hatsuu.
Even NISA is better because they live up to your expectations at least. XSEED is just a disappointment.

>>384951281
>I will part with my money for poor quality products, suck it fags
I don't think we're the losers here.

>>384945449
Just jumping in to say that I would still prefer Aksys over XSEED.
Both give shit translations, but Aksys doesn't lose JP voices. Their PR work could be better, but at least they aren't hatsuu levels of "oh my god I want to die please comfort me my entourage of people who love my aging tits"

>>384951281
You bought Akiba's Beat?

>>384951281
Hey, it's your money. Do what you want.

>>384951937
No, but they mass block people on twitter who said one of their games had a game breaking bug.

>>384951465
>>384951937
Anyone have caps of hatsuu's twitter meltdown before she deleted her account?

>>384952119
Sounds pretty fun/10

>/v/
>used to praise Xseed for bringing NEVEREVER games to america

>neo/v/
>shits on Xseed as if it was the worst localization company around, it's like /v/ is now full of nightwolves

What went so wrong?

>>384948489
They wont have to make an excuse because NISA or Aksys will localize CSIII

>>384952212
Sup aceman, you coming to the granny party next weekend?

>>384952252
>What went so wrong?
XSEED's quality.

>>384952287
Maybe.

>>384952152
She deleted her account?

>>384952252
Literally, unironically, hatsuu.

>>384952363
But they were always a small company. Are you expecting AAA quality?

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>>384947073
>nintendo
>red and blue words
>ace attorney
I realize I need a seacats and ace attorney crossover like game.

>>384952252
They used to localize a large variety of games, but now they're just Marvelous' bitch. They don't even have Falcom anymore.

Didn't one of the Xseed employees resign themselves from credits cause they had to chanhe KKK or something?

>>384951465
>NISA
>Not drowning their localization in memes

???

>>384952386
Yes, back around when Akiba's Trip came out because trannies threw a shitfit about the word trap in it and told hatsuu they were going to kill themselves. She left all social media for several months then made her twitter again later.
There were also a few public meltdowns about people asking her for Japanese voices before the deletion too.

>>384952541
Yes that was Tom. One of them had a breakdown also cause the word trap was used in Akiba strip

>>384952541
Tom. Yes

>>384952573
Hey buddy, 2014 is two doors down

>>384952573
He's saying that you expect them to, so it's not as bad as when someone you expect more from screws up.

>>384943176
Didn't they also lie at PAX 2015 that XCX wouldn't be censored for any reason before all that got debunked?

Xseed's guilty of a bit of overlocalization someitmes, but when it comes to most major localization outfits, they censor the least.

I mean compare them to shit like NISA which also overlocalizes, mistranslates half the time, and censors a bunch of shit. or 8-4 which overlocalizes to the point where they change the original intent, and censors a bunch of shit. Or treehouse, which memelates and censors a bunch of shit. Or aksys, the source of
>>384943947

>>384952541
The Japanese company had no idea what KKK signified in the west. They changed it because the joke was just switching letters around from another acronym and Tom decided that was the censorship battle he wanted to crucify himself for.

>>384952637
You're mixing it up. It was someone on twitter who was upset about the word trap. Hatsuu's breakdown was because he threatening to self harm himself because of XSEED and she took it personally.

>>384951937
This, playing a Falcom game (TX) with the japanese audio track for the first time is a joy we didn't get till now. All thanks to based Aksys.

I just pirate any XSEED title now. I think the last one I bought was Dungeon Maker 2.
I would buy it again if XSEED fucking put it on the PSN

>>384953215
>Tom decided that was the censorship battle he wanted to crucify himself for.

Never gets old. I'm glad I'm not this retarded.

>>384953472
The game flopped terribly too. It was all-around a laughingstock still used as an example to localization teams on what not to do.
Tom had the right idea but god damn did he implement it terribly.

>>384953624
>Tom had the right idea
I imagine Tom was one of the people pushing for the dub given how much he shills them.

Tom did nothing wrong

>>384953215
Tom is such a fucking idiot. Though he defended both Akiba dubs with his life saying they were the BEST DUBS EVER it doesn't surprise me.

I'm just waiting for the day hatsuu finally kills herself. Should be pretty good.

Xseed said in a blog they're focusing on PC ports right now so it doesn't matter. They lost Ys and didn't get to localize Tokyo Xanadu. Will most likely lose Cold Steel III as well and instead release Memories of Celceta on PC.

>>384953716
I'm hoping they pull through. I would love to pirate the currently ps4-only titles.

>>384953472
>Can't ever be be included in credits ever again
>All because he thought a Nip joke that wouldn't make sense here should have been left in

>Aksys
>Mediocre translation and only Japanese voices

>NISA
>Shit localization and dual audio

>Xseed
>Better localization than above and english voices only

There's no winning

>>384953920
Tom died to stand against censorship.

>>384953920
>Can't ever be be included in credits ever again
Why are we acting as if this matters?

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>>384954006
>Better localization

>>384954098
He can't use anything he works on as reference or something.

>>384954010
Considering it was a change the developers at Acquire themselves changed no questions asked, it's a case of Tom thinking he knows better than the actual developers.

>>384954010
He should have picked a better place to die fighting for.

>>384954098
Because it does. He can still work for Xseed sure. But it won't stop the fact he will never be officially recognized ever again.

>>384954183
Fuck you're retarded Oakland. Tom took issue with it because the tone of the email sent to Acquire was one that they obviously took as "we want you to change this". If XSEED had never bothered them about it they wouldn't have had any reason to change it.

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>yfw Tom leaves XSEED to start his own localisation company dedicated to faithfulness and anti-censorship

>>384954006
Aksys is clearly the best one there.
>Translation isn't terrible or amazing
>Gets original audio

NISA even has a better translation. XSEED just feels like a fan-patch made from some autistic sperg half the time.

>>384954306
He also said it should have been kept in because it would be shocking. Which goes against the vision the developers had.

>>384954434
>XSEED just feels like a fan-patch made from some autistic sperg half the time.
That's what half their Falcom releases are.

>>384953843
For PC ports they're just gonna port some old ass games they localized already like Ys Seven.

>>384954501
They're paying for the steam version of Cold Steel 1 from their own pockets. I'm pretty sure they'll do it for other games.

>>384937983
>>384938132
Nier Automata also had rewrite, particularly for characterizations. The most obvious one is how different 2B in Japanese compared to in English.

>>384954727
Shit man, I kept thinking about this while playing the game and I thought it was weird that I never saw anyone complain. The Japanese 2B seems kind of aloof and standoff-ish which makes sense, but in a really pure way. The translation (and especially the dub) just made her sound like a hardass type of character, which doesn't fit at all. I found that extremely jarring.

>>384954939
I never, ever put her on English so I don't know what it sounds like. However, the translation felt like it matched. She never came across as a hardass character type to me -- moreso robotic and matter-of-fact.

>>384932741
I don't. Haven't bought anything from XSEED and probably never will.

>>384955073
It's hard to think of examples without playing through the game again to look at specific scenes because it's a pretty subtle thing, but she's a lot more curt in the translation. Add in the usual dub problem of replacing a cute Japanese voice with a tired 40 year old smoker and you've got a 2B who sounds like she doesn't give a shit, rather than one who's trying to force herself not to care too much (and failing).

>>384954430
And who's giving him capital?

>>384955568
Why, Kickstarter and Patreon, like every other successful passion project!

>>384955732
And which company is going to trust him with their IP? Keep in mind localization companies have to market the games.

I never really cared for XSEED much, but their recent string of comments in regard to the Vita made me lose a lot of respect for them.
>Thanks guys for all your support! We're more than amazed by how many Vita fans bought or games! To thank you all, we'll be using these proceeds to create a PC port of Cold Steel 1, with 5000 exclusive dubbed lines from our very own Rean!
>You know, we have been getting a lot of flak for our previous announcement.. you should be happy! More people will play our game because of you.
>Trails of Cold Steel 3 is PS4 only! The series will finally get the love it deserves!
>The Vita was holding back Trails. There's no two ways about it -- the Vita fans our there just need to accept it.
>Please buy Akiba's Beat! #VitaIsland !
>Now that the Vita isn't holding back games, Senran actually looks good now.
>Valkyrie Drive? We have no plans. We don't want to be known as that company who only brings over pervy games.

I own all current-gen systems so platform isn't an issue for me, but XSEED just feels filled with amateurs who got too proud of their shit. They blame the Vita community for Akiba's Beat flopping too.

>>384955846
He'll obviously make his own games in Japanese and then translate them to English himself while keeping everything exactly how the original author intended because HE's the original author.

Can anyone rival Tom's genius?

I have most of their products, but I won't be double dipping on Cold Steel because they still couldn't manage to get the voices, holy shit.

Even fucking I don't know the company got the voices for the new Ys, I swear if it was XSeeD the new Ys wouldn't have dual audio.

This is fucking sad to be honest senpai.

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y'all fuckin anal-ass nerds weebs in here. japanese and english languages are different. if you want a literal jp-to-eng translation go look at wild arms 2 or something, they always come out sounding awkward and stilted because thats how the japanese language is constructed. things need to be rewritten to have the same meaning come across for english speakers you fat mongs.

>>384953048
Yes they did. Its why I mentioned they shouldn't due to what they said but they could be lying about that too. We just need to keep an eye out for now and see if they are telling the truth or not once the release comes near.

>>384956231
People are complaining about the translations changing the character's personalities. A quiet / reserved character needs an equally quiet / reserved response.

>>384956231
Haha yes, how could we possibly understand the game's story here in the West without references to GamerGate and the patriarchy? And how could I fully appreciate the deep dialog of Fire Emblem Fates if half of it hadn't been replaced with ellipses and memes? Alsuisfiufesbsefkuh! That's dragon for "T-thanks Treehouse-sama"!

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>>384954306
What was sent in the email? The email was never published. We only heard that XSeed wrote to them for clarification, and they said to change it.
Tom's forum post makes it sound like he thought it was funny and demanded it be kept in
> I personally felt "KKK witches" was pretty funny for its shock value, but when I mentioned it to my coworkers, they... were not as amused.

>>384956623
I actually defended XSeed back in those days because they were the only ones bringing those niche as fuck games over here and in my eyes that made up for a couple of meme lines. I'm not sure it was worth it.

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What all of this teaches us is that we must embrace our SJW sisters (brothers) in accepting censorship up our asses :^)

>>384955969
>They blame the Vita community for Akiba's Beat flopping too

Really? Lmao, they really are delusional thinking anyone would play that piece of shit. Hilarious how now that the Vita is not "holding back" games they aren't localizing anything worth a damn.

>>384955969
You're pathetic, Vitagen.
>Thanks guys for all your support! We're more than amazed by how many Vita fans bought or games! To thank you all, we'll be using these proceeds to create a PC port of Cold Steel 1, with 5000 exclusive dubbed lines from our very own Rean!
They recorded them for the initial Vita \and PS3/ version of the game and wanted to put them in, but Falcom wouldn't give them the time for it. So they went unused until this port where Xseed gets the say.
>Trails of Cold Steel 3 is PS4 only! The series will finally get the love it deserves!
>The Vita was holding back Trails. There's no two ways about it -- the Vita fans our there just need to accept it.
Xseed have nothing to do with Falcom's decision to put the game on PS4 only, but they're right, the Vita was holding it back.
>Now that the Vita isn't holding back games, Senran actually looks good now.
Yeah, it does.
>Valkyrie Drive? We have no plans. We don't want to be known as that company who only brings over pervy games.
This isn't recent and it has nothing to do with the Vita. SUrprisingly, it's the only thing that's reasonable to be mad at them about.

>>384956231
>literal translation means a badly edited and barely readable translation
Love this meme, love Commie for pushing it. You can make a translation that's both faithful and reads well, all you have to do is not constantly change shit for no fucking reason.

>>384956623
I always figured that since it was a weird doujin game originally that that's just how it was. Nowadays I wonder.

>>384957170
>XSHITTER not understanding the point of the original post while blaming some unrelated third party
Nothing surprising there.

>>384937725
SHE'S A MAAAAN EATAR

>>384956660
>>384956660
>In the end, however, it was Acquire themselves who voluntarily changed it to "ACQ witches"... sort of. We only ever got as far as emailing them to let them know that the KKK is a well-known abbreviation for a hate group in America, and asking them if the name "KKK witches" had any specific meaning in Akiba's Beat, and the conversation never progressed beyond that point before Acquire simply changed the sign text and sent us a new build. Because of this, calling this an "act of censorship" is indeed rather questionable -- though not unwarranted, I feel, since (1) we would've asked them to change it if they hadn't done so voluntarily, (2) our email did not directly ask them to change it, but... I mean, how else were they supposed to interpret us asking about it at all? And (3) the Japanese version still retains the "KKK witches" moniker, with the change only made to all English versions.

>>384957383
The original text was straightforward but said in a playful tone obviously meant to be taken as a joke. It's like you going up to your bro and telling him you want to suck his dick. It's just a joke haha

>>384957429
it's funny because the thing you said can be applied to the original post, too

>>384957429
But I don't approve of Xseed, I just approve of retarded console warrior fanboys even less.

>>384957528
That's not the actual e-mail, though. That's how Tom interpreted the email

>>384957743
Are you wilfully choosing to ignore that Acquire would naturally assume that they wanted it changed based on the email, and that they were going to ask them to change it after they responded anyway?

>>384957170

>>Now that the Vita isn't holding back games, Senran actually looks good now.
>Yeah, it does.

No, the best the series ever was was on the 3DS. Tech limitations have never been the issue with that series if games like Estival Versus and Peach Beach Splash are any indication. Maybe if Takaki actually took advantage of the hardware and made the games significantly better for it but he hasn't. Closest thing to that we've seen is bigger mobs to monotonously cut through. Whoop-de-doo. At least Burst had a passable story and SK2 added a breast slider.

>>384957869
>>No, the best the series ever was was on the 3DS.
Now this is delusion. The 3DS games already looked like shit compared to SV, and SV looks like shit compared to EV. Takaki blatantly said that he made SV on the Vita because he wanted to make the tits look nicer.
>Closest thing to that we've seen is bigger mobs to monotonously cut through. Whoop-de-doo. At least Burst had a passable story and SK2 added a breast slider.
This was never about gameplay elements or story you dumb cunt, it was about visuals.

>>384957645
>console warrior fanboys
>Not appreciating a company who bashes half their fanbase means you're suddenly a console warrior

What is with you people misinterpreting everything? Are you XSEED's official localizers? I didn't even say I wanted these games on Vita, but that I lost respect for them showing obvious disdain towards their own fans.

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>>384958049
>Vita market
>Half their fanbase

>>384958034

If it's about visuals then SK2 has the best artstyle to date. The Vita/PS4 entries have a very sterile art direction in comparison.

>>384958049
>Company says that the Vita isn't viable (because it isn't) and has been holding back development quality of a multiplat game (because it has)
>This is an insult to the fans

Only a console fanboy would take that personally instead of seeing it as the simple truth of the matter.

>>384958049
>vita
>half their fanbase
wew

>>384958104
Well I mean, yeah. Most of their multiplats had a good split between platforms. Their home console sales never towered over the handheld ones.

>>384948653
>Golden Sun-izing a game
Uhhh, what happened in Golden Sun's localisation?

>>384958162
>Talking about art direction for fucking Senran Kagura
It's a fanservice game about titty ninjas with bouncing tits and butts, and the bouncing tits and butts look better in EV and PBS than ever before. That's literally all the series needs and the only thing it sells for.

>>384958206

There's no console fanbase more crazy than vitatards

>XSEED defense force jumps in as soon as Vita is mentioned
It was such a nice thread too.

>>384957846
Have you considered they just changed it to make it as innocuous in English as it was in Japanese thanks to it being brought to their attention, and not because they were feeling some subtextual pressure from the localization company?

>>384958350
Indeed. A company insulting the fans would be Capcom saying there just wasn't enough fan support for MML3. They directly insulted the fanbase and blamed them for a lack of support that resulted in canning the game. This is a company saying a platform isn't viable and butthurt console fanboys taking it personally because of misguided brand loyalty.

What the fuck is XSEED even doing now? Where are the damn games.

>>384958445
>Calling vitards retarded means you're defending XSEED
It's not "if you're not with us, you're against us", anon. It's not that black and white. XSEED's problems have little relation to fanboys getting buttmad about the truth, and butthurt Vita fanboys have little to do with XSEED's questionable localisation practices.

>>384958460
That's pretty obvious, anon. And it's also completely beside the point.

>>384958548
They blew all their money on Akiba's Beat and now they're stuck making ports and working on doujin games while slowly plodding away at Cold Steel.

>>384958346

I thought they looked nicer in SK2 when I could adjust their size to my liking. Also, have you seen those yoma designs? More effort went into those than pretty much any visual element in the later games. Technically yes, games like SV and EV are superior, but they clearly put more effort into SK2. Hell, just look at some of that game's lip synching during cutscenes, they put some love into that shit.

>>384958548
All I care about is them bringing Zwei!! now. Since they brought up another translation.

>>384958762
>I thought they looked nicer in SK2 when I could adjust their size to my liking.
Customisation is a gameplay element, not graphical quality.
>Technically yes, games like SV and EV are superior
Glad we got that out of the way.

>>384958916
Enjoy your dub.

>>384958607
Anon, nobody is angry over the lack of localizations for the Vita here. People are latching onto that idea because the Vita was mentioned at all -- my original post was just talking about how they were being unprofessional / openly crappy people to a fanbase that supported them.
Even despite stating that I had no issue with platforms due to owning them all, you guys just jumped at the chance to shit on the Vita for your own personal reasons.

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What a buncha jokahs

>>384958954
I don't care what voices are there. I just want to play a game in a language I understand.