>"This game sucks" >"Why?" >"The

They're not wrong.

Video games are a visual hobby, everything in a game is represented by graphics

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>>384916603
>This game sucks
>No it doesn't!
>Why not?
>Waifus!

>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"

>"This game is great"
>*crickets*

>"This game is shit"
>"Why?"
>no response

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>the game sucks
>why
>i don't like the developers political opinions

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>*lists several valid reasons*
>"I agree the game's flawed but I still liked it"

>>384916787
Watch a movie. Games are for gameplay.

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"Too many toads"

>"This game sucks"
>"git gud"

If the graphics are awful to the point that the game looks ugly, it can be a deterrent

>>384917775
Ugly graphics can be charming/entertaining
What you're thinking of is ugly art direction

>>384917939
dumb indie dev poster

>>384917939
>Ugly graphics can be charming/entertaining
Yeah, and they can also be severely irritating and distracting.

>What you're thinking of is ugly art direction
No.

>>384918127
Name one example.

>>384917562
This.
I hate that mainstream games became shallow "interactive movies." Games should be about gameplay. Good graphics are nice, but ultimately not important.

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>>384916603
>the graphics suck
>they don't actually suck, it's just an older game designed for older hardware
>the graphics are actually fantastic and the games art design fits the spec of its graphical fidelity extremely well
>kids nowadays say it looks too shit to even enjoy
What's her name?

>>384918096
>>384918127
You guys are everything that's wrong with modern gaming, putting graphics on a pedestal
I bet you you don't play any retro games

>>384918537
You're wrong

>>384918635
I don't believe you, cancer

>>384917406
There's nothing wrong with the unwillingness to give money to the people you dislike

>>384918537
So, you disagree with my statement that ugly graphics can be a nuisance?

>>384918227
Alone in the Dark comes to mind, but what's the point anyway? You're just gonna tell me that you find those gratingly bad graphics "charming".

>>384918536
Ur mom

>>384916603
but yeah, morrowind sucks

>>384917562
>implying vidya isnt supreme story telling medium

>>384917724
thats a legitimate response though
Git gud skrublord

>>384919131
Is it really?

>Dead Rising 4 sucks
>git gud!

>>384919025
That is literature
Vidya is the Supreme gaming medium.

>>384918823
I assume you're talking about the old AitD games
What exactly is wrong with those graphics? How does the protagonist being a bit blocky distract you from the game in any way?
The game DID have ugly art direction, way too bright and colorful for a horror game, there was no atmosphere at all

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>This game sucks
>Why?
>Because it's a western game
>Well you know what? That other game sucks.
>Why?
>Because it's Japanese
*500 replies later*

>>384919025
but it isn't.
For standalone movies, maybe.
But how many are there? How many movies are there that were always a movie and never a book/game/boardgame/whatever?

But every movie that has a template in form of said medias is in comparsion shit in regards of story, and just for people who are too lazy to imagine a world while reading

>>384919345
You misread that post, homeboy

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"it's not on PC"

>>384917406
This shit drives me crazy.

>>384919668
oh.
Sorry then.
My point stands, though

>>384919683
This is a good argument in some cases though. Like where the console version performance is unbearable. Imagine if dishonored 2 or prey weren't on pc? They'd be really shit games. However, since they are, the games are exceptionally enjoyable

>>384918757
It's incredible how blatantly people will ignore the topic in order to defend a perceived slight against their political opinions. Did you even read his post or did you just see "I don't like the developer's political opinions" and explode into typing a response?

>that game is shit
>why
>it's singleplayer

OR

>that game is shit
>why
>you can't create a character

My friends always say this shit

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"I'm not the target audience"

>>384919987
What the fuck are you on about you fucking cunt?

>>384917406
/v/ does the same too, you know

>>384917406
This shit is so fucking stupid. And it's been /v/'s bread and butter for so long, it's depressing.

>>384916603
>This game sucks
>Why
>Because it's overrated

You simply can't please everyone. No matter how hard you try, there will always be someone who hates the game.

Case in point: Call of Duty series
People complained it kept getting stale and didn't change so they brought it into the future. Immediately you have people complaining about "Oh the old games were better blah blah blah" I have a good feeling after COD: WW2 comes out and then we get another game in 2018 we'll have people complaining about "the game is stale" all over again.

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"The graphics are good"

Which can be safely ignore if the game is all about gameplay but a game that is all about narrative, character interaction and how characters are interacting with you and them good presentation is crucial. Maybe even the single most important aspect.

>>384920427
Who do you think he's mocking

>>384920387
Oh man, I got a real easily upset one on the line.
His complaint was about people proposing that a game is shitty because of some flaw in the developer's personal ideologies. If you weren't the newest sweet summer babe in the thread, you'd know this is /v/'s MO.

There's nothing wrong with involving a person's words and actions in your decision to give money to them, obviously.

>>384920427
Yes, because this whole thread is just full of arguments that nobody on /v/ would EVER be so low as to utilize.

>>384919289
>I assume you're talking about the old AitD games
I am, yeah. It's less about the low-poly models (they do ruin some of the atmosphere by looking comically grotesque on occasion, though) and more about the animations. The scripted ones are okay, but any time characters (need to) interact with each other, it's incredibly difficult to tell the points of connection due to, among other reasons, the lack of shadows that would otherwise give you a better sense of space and perspective. The graphics really are detrimental to the experience.

Other examples would be many older point&click adventures where on-screen items simply didn't look like the things they were supposed to represent or, worse yet, blended in with the background.

>This game sucks
>Why
>because my favorite e-celeb said so

>>384920702
/v/ in a nutshell

>>384920934
The fact of the matter is that most games made by people who are vocal about their political views will contain political propaganda. There's nothing fun about getting some agenda shoved down your throat when you just wanna play a game.

>>384921478
more like
>because famous e-celeb made it mainstream

you forgot you're posting at /v/

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>Play this game
>No, it's old

>"This game sucks"
>"You're only saying this because it's old"

>>384917562
>>384918332
Turn you TV/monitor off and try to play

>>384922048
>I only read books printed on the highest quality paper
>I mean, try reading a book without pages!

>ninja gaiden sucks
>why
>it doesn't have crazy combos/god of war qtes/5 full seconds of hitstop on every hit/a stamina meter/rpg elements

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>this game sucks
>"why"
>there's not enough story

GO READ A BOOK

>This game is shit
>Why?
>It was boring

>>384918536
First 2 Oddworld games. A friend of mine wouldn't play them because the graphics are dated.

>>384922048
Do you think you made a point?

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>>384922048

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why"
>"It's censored"

>>384920702
Makes sense. If the dev team focused 80% of their efforts on graphix and everything else is secondary you get movie games

>>384925357
Crysis, FEAR and the first Max Payne were all graphical high enders at their time, and they're far from "movie games".

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>>384916603
>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"It's not realistic"

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>people itt think graphics and aesthetics dont matter

This is why we get a bunch of indie games that look like hot fucking garbage these days

>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"It's racist/sexist/homophobic/etc."

>>384925618
meme games don't count
also stop replying to me

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>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"too many white people"

>>384925780
>games that prove me wrong don't count
>also stop proving me wrong

>>384925618
Did they spend 80% of their time on graphics? or did they make a good game and then make good graphics after like you're supposed to.

>>384916603
>>384916854
>frogposters

>this game sucks
>why is that pal?
>it's a weebshit game with snoozfest gameplay and anime tiddies to appeal to pathetic weebs
>see what you mean buddy, fuck those worthless pedos

>>384926193
Crysis is fucking terrible as a game. People literally only install it to benchmark their rigs 5 years ago. Fear also looks terrible so you're definitely fucking retarded. Max Payne is already an established series so of course they're going to revamp the graphix since someone did all the hard work of creating the fundemantals of the series years ago. That's like being surprised if a new pokemon game comes out and it has good looking graphix, what the fuck else are they going to spend time on?

>>384927069
What's wrong with your brain?

>>384916603
If a game has really poor graphics, and by extension animation, I can't get into it. There have been exceptions but I'm just less willing to try a mediocre game with shit graphics than a mediocre game with decent graphics. Shit =/= old by the way. I'm totally okay with playing games like Parasite Eve.

>>384917406
>Giving money to people who you disagree with
Just pirate the game if you must play it. Most of the time devs who push their political opinions are SJW's and it bleeds into their work making it worse than it would've been otherwise. Are there even any games that have confirmed SJW devs and is good?

>>384927467
>lol ur rong
Not an argument, faggot

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>this game sucks
>why
>no quest markers

>>384927965
You're not "rong", you're mentally deficient.

>Crysis is fucking terrible as a game.
That's completely irrelevant because this wasn't about whether or not you think a game is good, but about whether or not it's "a movie". Crysis isn't like a movie in any way.

>Fear also looks terrible
"Looks terrible"? Fucking play it, you clown. Again, it was a graphical milestone in its day and it was in no sense like a movie.

>Max Payne is already an established series so of course they're going to revamp the graphix since someone did all the hard work of creating the fundemantals of the series years ago.
I was talking about Max Payne ONE, you fucking idiot.


What a waste of time you turned out to be.

>>384928568
the argument is about how spending way way to much time on graphics fucks up the game. crysis would certainly fit that bill.
fear looked pretty good for it's time, but it didn't spend 80% of their time and money on graphics like crysis.The same goes for max pain.
The graphics don't make a game good, the game being good does.

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There's nothing wrong with cinematic games like call of duty.
Not all of as have time and patience to play shit like dark souls or skyrim or whatever.

>>384917406

ever heard the term 'vote with your wallet'?

it's the harsh truth

>>384917524
>my "valid reasons" why I dislike the game you should retroactively invalidate your enjoyment of it

>>384929204
Yeah, but that doesn't make the game good or bad.

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>>384927864

>>384928568
>irrelevant
lmao we're discussing whether time allocation heavily in favor of graphix ruins the overall game, and you literally confirmed my first point so thank you, retard
>still grasping to everything being a movie
really shows your reading comprehension. way to dodge the point of my post, retard
>i was talking about max payne ONE
you weren't talking about max payne at all. to simply move the goalposts to a game that batter fits your argument while ignoring the others in the series proves to me you know you're wrong and are trying to backpedal, retard
>what a waste of time you turned out to be
LMAO literally >pshh nothin personal kid.....

scratch what I said before, please keep replying to my posts. you're clearly retarded and are a great source of entertainment, unlike the games I've mentioned

>>384929165
Call of duty is a bad game period. it his no good qualities at all whatsoever. I legitimately want the developer dead.

>>384924575
What is a VIDEO game without graphics

>>384927864
Every game is made by SJW retard

>>384916603
Why do we pretend graphics is not important when it is? People really want to play games that look like Atari games?

>>384930241
Graphics are nice, but are completely unimportant, they should be focused on last after everything else is done.

>"This sequel sucks"
>"Why?"
>"It's not exactly like the original"

>>384920471
why ? there are literally insane people out there who try to bar other people from the industry. why would you want to give people money who actively campaign to stop games being made. your flavor of the month title can lead to your future favorite game never being made.

>>384930383
Graphics do have importance, however you shouldn't solely focus on them, there needs to be a balance.

>>384930151
no. the guy who is making grimiore is red pilled.

>>384928403
quest markers are optional.quest logs are not.

>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"Because I don't like it"
Triggers me every time. Just because something doesn't tailor to your tastes and preferences doesn't mean it's objectively bad. You see a lot of perfectly competent games get shat on on this board

>>384930863
I'm a /pol/fag, but the guy making grimoire is literally the most autistic person in the world. I honestly think he might be worse than fucking chrischan. that motherfucker is not red-pilled.

>>384931107
what you said is true except for the last sentence. he is the alex jones of gaming.

>>384921602
>There's nothing fun about getting some agenda shoved down your throat when you just wanna play a game.

what about deus ex, anon? thats a good game

>>384922048
Blind kid plays mario, technically the screen is off for him.

What's your point?

>>384919805
It stands up about as well as a paraplegic

>>384917562
Hi ACfag.

>>384929886
>lmao we're discussing whether time allocation heavily in favor of graphix ruins the overall game
No, that's just what you so dearly wish you had discussed right from the start. I responded clearly and specifically to your claim of an overreliance on graphics making games more like movies, and the reason *why* I responded to this *and nothing else* is that it's actually something that can be objectively ascertained. I don't give a shit about your idea of a "good game", because it's worthlessly subjective anyway, but a lack of interactivity can be demonstrated.

>really shows your reading comprehension. way to dodge the point of my post, retard
Yeah, I'm the one doing the dodging here, you squirming cunt.

>i was talking about max payne ONE
>you weren't talking about max payne at all.
Again, bringing me back to my earlier question of what exactly it is that's so tragically wrong with your brain. This is the post where I "wasn't talking about Max Payne at all", by the way:
>>384925618
Maybe if you take your sweet time, you'll actually get halfway through that single sentence this time around.

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>>384917406
>why are all the people responding to this post putting in money? Paying for a game has nothing with it being good
are actually the newfag feeling called on by their normalfaggotry and feel the need to justify themselves like the libtard they are?

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>>384927864
>Are there even any games that have confirmed SJW devs and is good?

>>384931435
He is your memory (visuals) of what the game looked like before they went blind

Your point?

>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"Because I'm trying to fit in on /v/ by hating everything"

>>384919320
East vs. west threads should be a bannable offense.
They just turn into /pol///int/ bickering anyway.

>>384931905
You implied you couldn't play a game without seeing it, he is doing just that. He doesn't know level structure yet completes them.

You. Are. A. Clown.

>>384917406
That´s a legit reason if it actually affects the game

>>384922048
>try reading a book without pages
>try watching a movie without tv
>try drawing without a pencil

>>384920269
GTA sucks because of the retarded characters desu

>>384931537
NM there he is >>384924035

>>384931671
No that's literally what we were all discussing from the start

>>384931075
devil may cry sucks
live with it

>>384926160
> >"This game sucks"
> >"Why?"
> "it has too many people of different races/nationalities so its svj bullshit"

>>384931671
lmao I can physically feel your seething rage so before I proceed I want you to take a step away from your monitor and count to 10, that's counting all your fingers if you can't keep up.
Take a look at literally the first post I replied to >>384920702
>game sucks because graphics are good
I then replied here >>384925357 with
>makes sense, when teams give 80% of their focus to graphix and everything else is secondary, that's when you end up with movie games
I have been discussing time allocation from the start so clearly you are the retard for not even bothering to see what post I was initially replying to, retard. I also never said every game that relies on graphix automatically makes them movies. You seem to male up your own points to argue with yourself with, which is something retards typically do often.
I also forgot to mention that you never stated which max payne you were talking about, so to backpedal yet again and say
>oh uhhh b-b-but I was talking about the first!!!
is hilariously embarrassing. Lets take a page out of your retard book
Uhhhh I was talking about fear ONLINE lmao you fucking retard
Again you obviously have a soft spot for movie games such as uncharted series so to be this butthurt over my shitting on your favorite series is pretty sad
reevaluate your life, retard

>"This game is amazing"
>"Why?"
>"It's fun"

>>384929620
What's your picture suppose to show me? A perceived moral superiority? I'm still not going to support people who believe in things that go against what I believe. Note - I said against not stuff I disagree with. If some faggot made a game I might enjoy but on his twitter he calls for the death of all males and how women are the most oppressed people in the world I'm not touching the shit. I don't care if it's the perfect game. Chances are that game is promoting the same shit the dev believes in as well. I've boycotted games for less, like L4D2

>>384932243
Crypt of the Necrodancer has no SJW shit in sight unless you're one of those retards who thinks female protagonist = sjw propoganda, it's a fantastic game with a great OST, but people still give it shit because the creators supported Anita.

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>>384917406
>_______ group should FUCK OFF and MAKE THEIR OWN GAMES instead of inserting THEIR POLITICS!!!
>They make their own game
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT IS THIS DEGENERACY WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS OVER FUCK _______

>this game sucks
>why?
>you can savescum

>>384933890
>I also forgot to mention that you never stated which max payne you were talking about, so to backpedal yet again and say
>oh uhhh b-b-but I was talking about the first!!!

>>384925618
>the first Max Payne
>first Max Payne
>first

>>384930728
You're talking about /pol/ types screaming at people and raiding people, hacking them and posting their social security numbers online, all of which results in them pushing others out of the gaming industry?

Or what?

>>384934529
Lmao damn guess I missed it, my bad
doean't mean all my other points aren't correct, and the fact that you didn't mention any of the points I brought up once again proves you are nothing but some salty kid who loves movie games. If only you admitted to only liking the graphics of games and not even the actual gameplay then you could have saved your bloodpressure, retard
Thank you for all the replies, I'm screencapping all of them but do you think I should organize them in my Sonybro folder or my Butthurt folder?

>>384935257
>Thank you for all the replies, I'm screencapping all of them but do you think I should organize them in my Sonybro folder or my Butthurt folder?
Try the "Indicators that I might be a little too emotionally invested in shitposting on /v/" folder, and then show it to your doctor.

>>384934168
Well no shit. The problem is that 99% of the people who breach bullshit about games can't make them and those who do don't do them well so no one really benefits

>>384918874
agree

>>384935662
>games that rely on graphix are bad
>no they're not
>yes they are and here is why
>YOU SQUIRMING CUNT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU CRYSIS IS LITERALLY THE PINNACLE OF VIDEOGAMES AND IS COMPLETELY FLAWLESS EXCEPT THE ONE FLAW THAT IT ISN'T A PS4 EXCLUSIVE BUT BEAIDES THAT IT'S FUCKING AMAZING SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Lmao yeah clearly you aren't the emotional one here at all over discussing a fucking videogame, you literal child
Again, you really shouldn't get so assblasted over the (correct) opinions of anonymous users. If you ever find yourself raging hard at a computer again juat turn off the monitor, retard
Also, I'm sorting the screens in both folders

>>384916603
>"This game sucks"
>"Why?"
>"it's a kids game"

>>384927864
inFamous

>>384936680
>Lmao yeah clearly you aren't the emotional one here at all over discussing a fucking videogame, you literal child
Again, you really shouldn't get so assblasted over the (correct) opinions of anonymous users. If you ever find yourself raging hard at a computer again juat turn off the monitor, retard
Also, I'm sorting the screens in both folders
Stay mad kiddo :^)

>>384917406
>People only dislike Mafia 3, Yooka Laylee, and ME:A for the developers's opinions

Graphics whores are a cancer on the industry.

FF 7

>>384916787
The quality of graphics does not matter as much as gameplay

>>384932457
This. They are just not likable.

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>>384916603
sorry to hear that OP

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>this game sucks
>why?
>it's boring

>>384916603
This is a legitimate argument though. Imagine playing a console game with all settings set to low at 720p like some Xbox one/ps4 games. It fucking sucks.

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>>384938160
>this game is great!
>why?
>it's fun!

>>384937567
>this kid is trying save face and pretend he wasn't mad from the start
HAHAHAHAHA this post you made was incredibly obvious about your body's total sodium intake >>384928568
you also went all >*teleports behind u* a few posts in which legit made me laugh
warned ya from the start not to reply but you couldn't help it and now you're mad. Noone to blame.but yourself, retard.
>he knows he's wrong and has run out of non-arguments
>so he just resorts to literally copy and pasting my posts out of rage
the absolute state of ps4fags
is it because I'm often calling you a retard? you're that sensitive/fragile?

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>>384916787
So you don't play any games before 2015?

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>>384938160
>>384938361
Those arguments are entirely correct

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>>384916603
"This game is great if you haven't played any other open world games in the past decade"
"This game will surely keep me entertained for months since there are no fucking games for this system"

>>384938891
BOTW right?
I want to play it badly but fuck I'm not coughing up 200 bucks for a switch just to play Zelda.

>>384939070
This was me for the longest time. I eventually caved when I researched for upcoming games and decided I would get one sooner or later

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>>384938820
A games objective quality has nothing to do with it raising a personal emotion from a single individual

>>384916603
It's true, though. How am I supposed to enjoy a game when it looks like Morrowind? That's why Skyrim is a superior game.

>>384917524
in my experience most of those 'valid reasons' are little more than nitpicks