Souls games are perfect examples why "dark" themed

that monster looks dumb as shit

>>384901649
>>384901402
>posters: 1

Also if you don't like it why type up a huge post about why you don't like it? Some people like games and other media to have a dark/gloomy/hopeless atmosphere. Not everyone needs bright colours and fart noises to have fun.

souls games are overrated fucking garbage, they're not even that hard either, just boring

What does any of that have to do with gameplay?

>>384902193
Dark atmosphere is fine when done well, problem is it never is, so why bother?

>>384902327
If the overall setting and theme of the game sucks, who cares how it plays?

So in other words "stop liking what I don't like"

>>384902928
You fucking dumbass. More like why make something almost guaranteed to be poorly done?

>>384903125
So in other words "Stop making what I don't like"

>>384903125
All souls games have atmosphere that is coherent and well done.
I don't know what kind of authority you assume yourself to be, but the way you write I would never listen to your advice regarding art direction or style of anything.
What do you do for life?

>>384903382
>>>/pol/

>>384901402
>wanting fun and light hearted settings in a dark game with the Work dark in the title that's about dying and coming back to life
Have you tried Mario vs. Rabbids? That might be a better choice for you.

>>384901402
>bing-bing, wahoo! 1 up!
KYS.

>>384901402
You make it sound like medieval gears of war.

>>384902209
I dare you to try and beat one faggot, oh wait you cant because its too hard for your puny ass so you have to resort to calling the game boring

>>384903498
I said none of the games have humor at all. You do realize you can have humor in a dark setting and not have it be Mario and shit right? Oh wait I forgot dark souls games need to be so grimdark at all times, like a fucking concentration camp.

>>384903382
>has no argument
>brings up politics as a last resort

>>384903837
>wait for enemy to attack
>roll/block attack
>counter attack

Holy shit so hard man...

>>384901402
>no humor at all
While the Souls games certainly contain little humor on their own, the message system is obviously intended to allow for it.

>>384901402
>>no humor at all
>hasn't been to the crow settlement

>>384901402
Fear not the dark my friend

>>384903897
but the in-game characters are perpetually laughing, what are you talking about

>>384903963
My argument is in the first fucking post, can you read? Oh wait you can't, because you're a fucking share blue Hillary bot. get over it, she fucking lost. You punk ass motherfucker. You blue state motherfucker. Suck the fucking orange turds from my trumptard asshole you stupid ass motherfucker, fuck you.

>>384901402
>First part of Solaire of Astora
>Not humorous
>Siegmayer/Siegvart
>not humorous
>Patches
>not a fantastic, and humorous character
>The Sack in the Depths
>Basilisks' character design
>Praise the Sun emote


That's just off the top of my head. OP didn't play the game(s).

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>>384901402
>here are some reasons dark games suck
>thing i don liek
>thing i don liek
>thing i don liek
>thing i don liek
>checkmate soulsfags
Great thread, OP

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>>384904112

>>384904181
Well im not about stoop as low as you and start talking about politics but no I am a Trump supporter you dumbass, also fuck you bitch you still have no argument other than
>dont like what i dont
Boo hoo motherfucker quit being a little crybaby bitch and grow a pair

>>384901402
>no humor at all

So? Grimdark is not supposed to be funny or comedic. If anything it absolutely breaks the setting.

Unless you are da Orkz from 40k.

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>>384901402
Yeah but I think they're fun!

Dark Souls is the most important thing to happen to gaming since 3D.

>>384904549
>a shitty niche game full of sickdark garbage is the most important thing to happen to gaming

yeah all the numerous shitty forgettable clones it inspired sure helped gaming

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>no humor
But very Souls game has patches or another comic relief character of some sorts like Patches or Onion Knights.

>>384903125
stop assuming your opinions are fact you, autistic piece of shit

Dark themes are only dark if the story itself also has contrasts to it

Like Ocarina of Time. The game is gloomy, cheerful, sad at times, hilarious, and at times horrifying (and now toned down by Nintendo)

That's why meeting Solaire and Siegmeyer is so cool in the first game, and then meeting him again at Lost Izalith makes everything and the world look so FUCKED.

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>can't handle when things take themselves seriously
>complain that things need to be more funny

You must really like Marvel movies

>>384904992
The fuck did you call me? Huh? Mind repeating that shit?

*towers over you, my black pecs glistening with sweat*

Say it again. Say it again, and see what happens.

>>384901402
>No humour at all.
Literally every NPC finishes a conversation with "heh heh heh".

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Demons Souls and Dark Souls had excellent pacing, and DaS did it best. It started out in a rotting, decayed setting at a more or less human scale, then opened out to a larger, more fantastic but somehow more tragic world.

After then it was just a random jumble of settings and enemies, worst of all in DaS2.

>>384905149
*teleports behind you*

I promised my master I wouldn't use my power unless I had too but it seems you've left me no choice

*Unseathes Katana and slices you in half*

Forgive me master

*Ninja hand signs and teleports away*

SUPERIOR
LIMB
BASED
COMBAT

>>384901402
So you're mad because it's not "le funny heartwarming game", it's grim and sad and you can't self insert? So you just don't like DS themes? Those are terrible reasons to call a game trash. How about you come up with something better before posting.

The phantoms of other characters can be pretty funny imo.

>>384904816
but i need farts and crude jokes with pop culture references or i won't get it???

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>>384901402
Medieval times were pretty depressing and dark. I get it though. I wish more games would focus on the Medieval themes of various European cultures and settings other than dark castles, eerie mountains, and spooky forests.
I like sunshine and blue skies with puffy white clouds and the rustling of the trees in the wind. Natural ambient sounds not mysterious monsterous noises that you cant even see the source its coming from.
Monsters should be unique and original. Or at least have a different take on them rather than just a zombie or giant animal.

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>>384904816
Dark Souls 1 also has this glorious thing.
Also there are enemies who drop their shit when they die, and you just casually pick it up.
And every game has the dumb Old Monk/Xanthos headpiece

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>>384901402
nigga, get out of here these games got plenty of humor

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>>384904782
>full of sickdark garbage
Have you even played the games? Yeah it's got some edgy shit, but for the most part the designs/architecture is purely medieval in origin and presentation. Do you think the middle ages are "sickdark?"

>>384903837
You're an adult yet you act like a child.
I remember when I criticized Dark Souls and people starting making assumptions about me.

>>384904017
Then what is a hard game for you?

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>no humor at all, everything is grim and serious at all times, any humor is all unintended shit like retarded looking glitches

I know thats you, Joss Whedon.

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Gothic Architecture is beautiful though.

>>384905083
>(and now toned down by Nintendo)
BotW actually had some real shit in it, it's just a little more hidden, like the sidequest about that guy who betrayed the Yiga clan and they murdered his wife.

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>>384907176

>>384906709
Legend of Zelda sounds like what you're looking for.

>>384906709
So the earlier FF games?

>>384901402
>i dont like subjective thing
>i like other subjective thing
Then just stick with your Nintendo games and stop whining on the internet you big baby

>>384907316
I'd agree with that, I guess? It's not a very interesting point, but it's coming out of Joss "3% better than Bazinga" Whedon's dog shit brain so what do you expect?

SOMEONE SHOULD SEARCH THE ARCHIVE FOR SICKDARK

THIS DUDE IS AUTISTIC AND DOES IT ALL THE TIME

NEW BARNEYFAG

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>>384907631
"One of the things I like about [The X-Men regularly slaughter people] is they're not killing people. I miss the idea of...heroes who stop that kind of thing from happening. Here's why I'm not running Marvel: If I was, I would kill the Hulk. I don't believe in what he does. The Hulk just smashes up places. And if you're telling me he's never smashed an innocent, then I'm telling you, that's fascist crap" -Jose Whedono

Is he right?

>>384901402
This is like complaining about the horror movie genre.
>why is there so much blood
>people are always getting killed
>not really funny, except when its really bad
>nothing like a kids show at all

You're complaining about an entire style.

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>>384907316
The Punisher literally only hits up joints he knows he can have a 100% body bag rate. Otherwise he just whacks a dude or a few dudes on the street and then fucks off.

>>384901402
>I like children's games

Good for you anon, you should stick to your zelda and all that other shit that children love

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>>384908609
>Why is there so much blood?

Haven't a majority of modern horror movies been PG-13?

bait

>>384901402
I'm not sure if you're legitimately retarded or just legitimately retarded and trolling, OP.

>>384901402
Someday you tryhards are going to get over the fact that dark souls is one of the few things that got popular because its actually a quality game. In the meantime enjoy your Assassins Creed of whatever the fuck you people play

>>384906745
The game even insults you in the item description for carrying shit around.

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>>384901402
>no humor at all, everything is grim and serious at all times, any humor is all unintended shit like retarded looking glitches

It's by far the LEAST depressing series I've ever played that was actually trying to be. It's actually hilarious at times. That's one aspect where I find Souls games to completely lack self-awarness. Bloodborne was an attempt to rectify that, but it still has its share of funny moments and enemies.

The Last of Us. Halo Reach. Those are 'depressing' games. Those are games that give you true hopelessness and futility ad fucking nauseum.

Souls games? That's horseshit.

>Half the characters can't truly die
>Main character never dies on-screen. You could argue Bloodborne but even then they are only dying in a dream.
>goofy ass skeletons, pick any game
>impractically huge weaponry everywhere
>Siegmeyer of Catarina
>Patches
>Frampt
>Smough
>basilisks
>every fucking hollow enemy in Dark Souls 2
>pus of man
>Micolash
>naked merciless watcher (this is the funniest fucking enemy I've seen, period.)
>brick trolls
>The One Reborn

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>>384905675
this anon gets it

>>384909167
Which is so damn sad.
Hollywood is truly a retarded place

>>384901402
>no humor
>patches exists

>>384908173
The X-Men didn't 'regularly slaughter people' when Wheddon gave that quote. I imagine they have killed before (Ennis' followup on Astonishing being a prime example) but they haven't ever been big on genocide.

Idk if they are now since Marvel is actively trying to ruin them but back when I stopped reading they were non-lethal to a fault.

>>384901402
There's hundreds of better examples, but you knew that already. Nice bait Faggot.

>>384901402
t. Marvel cuck

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>Soulsborne doesn't have hum-

"A crude wooden shield used by the masses who have arisen to join the hunt.
Hunters do not normally employ shields, ineffectual against the strength of the beasts as they tend to be.
Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity."

>>384909734
>deliberately limiting your audience just to appeal to the very small number of edgelord retards in existence who think gore is essential to horror

I don't think it's Hollywood that is the one that is retarded.

>>384907316
He's not wrong on the Punisher bit. He probably killed more than one innocent person.

>>384910238
The Hulk has certainly killed more people

I just wish they would improve the controls

>>384902502
A lot of people thought it worked for Dark Souls so clearly its a matter of preference.

>>384910180
>I said anything about gore
>watering down a movie to alienate it's core audience that would actually pay to see it.
>failing to give interest to new people, or have any appeal to actual horror fans
>homologous entertainment goes well
Hollywood certainly isn't the only retarded one around.

>>384910606
Dark Souls 3 is all you're getting bro. It also has the best controls.

If you're looking for animation cancels you need to look for another game where committing to moves isn't a main design principle.

>>384902502
another comment for the : "thats not real comunism" tier awards
what exactly does grim dark mean ? its a fucking definition to explain a personal preference
some people have a higher degree of tolerance for things, you cant base a whole genre off your personal preference you autistic fuck

>>384904181
>snowflaking this hard

>>384910734

You mock these things as if they haven't made Hollywood trillions of dollars and you talk about appealing to "core audiences" and "real horror" fans as if such things even exists and as if that's the true path to financial success.

You ARE a fucking retard. You are probably the same sort of retard that thinks Ubisoft are morons for making the same open world game over and over again, utterly oblivious to the fact that it's only when they started doing that that their games started selling upwards of 12 million copies instead of only the few million sales they got beforehand.

Reality can be a pain in the ass but that doesn't make it any less real.

>>384911320
Kid, pull that cock out of your mouth.
You need to get better at arguing, maybe take a debate class.
I didn't say anything you just brought up.
Do they make money? Yup. But will they be rememberd for how much money they made? Nope.
It will be the shit or mediocrity of the craft they create. But that's only if you care about things like that. If you really just want money. Yea, their model is fine. If you want to make quality work in the a craft, its not.

>>384901402

Souls games are comfy as fuck though. The drab, depressing world just amplifies the comfiness of safe areas.

Let the feast begin, my men!

>>384903897
Souls games are not really grimdark. Sure, you have like, piles and piles of corpses, but the cryptic atmosphere and weird undeath themes doesn't make it feel like a massacre has taken place.

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>>384912093

>>384901402
thats just das III, das I had tons of other areas that were pretty cool and not edgy undead rotting shit

>>384911719

Oh, the great arbiter of art is here to lecture us all on what's good and what isn't and that we only think we are having fun.

Go fuck yourself, you obnoxious prat.

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>>384912338

>>384904017
You can sum any game up like that, you cretin.

>>384901402
It was fine at first but its overstayed its welcome, memezaki is making another dark fantasy game..

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>>384912452

>>384901402
For Souls clones specifically, they suck ass because they completely miss the point by aping the combat and overall foundation of the writing, yet are completely adamant about trying a wholly different setting.

The medieval setting is 90% of the appeal in these games and the design choices. It's the reason everyone has swords instead of guns, plate armor, shields. It's why there are castles, princesses, swamps. It's why combat is slow and predictable.

Once you decide a different setting, the game needs to play and feel massively different. Even more so than Bloodborne, preferably.

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>>384901402
>Dark Souls
>No humor
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRyGGB1k5Ds

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>>384912507
>memezaki is making another dark fantasy game
The game is also was leaked recently, picrelated

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>>384901402
>this setting and tone isnt to my personal taste so its bad
>a game must have comedy or its bad

wtf I hate darkness now?

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>>384912872
>>384913067

Don't play with me, anon. If you were fucking with me you'd tell me right?

>>384901402
>Stupid low effort b8 thread
>100+ replies
Checks out

>>384913216
Look at the Faraam set in the bottom right.

>>384913349
Yeah i just saw it

fucking kill me...

>>384912802
So how should Bloodborne play differently beyond, "Aggresive Souls, with guns, no shields and more beasts?"

>>384913170
>Chester from DS1 DLC mentions Juniper

Deepest lore

>>384913216
>>384913507

Yeah, sorry, these images were known not long after DS3 release and many people speculated it will be a DS3 DLCs, but it was not the case, as we know. IIRC people from Passion Republic stated that they're not working with FromSoftware, so it could be just an imitation for portfolio or something

Here's the all images - http://passionrepublic.com/en/work.html#popup_portfolio_10 (in the Concept Art section)

It's interesting, because these people (Passion Republic) worked on assets for Bloodborne and DS3

>>384909562
>/v/
>playing videogames

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post yfw next Fromsoft game is full aquatic/deeps/cosmic horror

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>>384901402
>dark or depressing themes makes the game bad
>being serious makes the game bad
>I don't like the way the enemies look
>I don't like the way the enemies look kind of like monsters from another series
>I didn't pay attention to the story that From Soft trusted me to find through clues in the environment rather than spoonfeeding them to me

Starting to think you're a fucking sperg who doesn't understand the game

>>384901402
>my opinion is right
>the post
>second edition

>>384913765
Oh, I remember these days on /V/

It's funny because the most common opinion was/is "Reeee, stop cloning your games, make something different and not grimdark", but when we saw these concept arts, the whole threads with such images was full of enthusiastic players, trying to tie the pictures to the lore and speculation what it will be.

Why /V/ is so tsundere to FromSoftware games?

>>384914023

By "these concept arts" I meant this >>384913765

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>>384914023
>Why /V/ is so tsundere to FromSoftware games?

I joined the series late and so far I'm properly mindbroken. I think of different stuff and I 'want' different stuff, but I NEED souls shit. I can't help it. Could just be perspective telling me there's way less Souls games than there is, and that my concept of the length of the series is skewed, but in the end I'm hooked on From schlong whether I like it or not.

>>384915315
Same. Can't wait till they announce their new Action RPG, really hope it will be a souls-like game

>>384915463
I want desert souls so fucking bad

something something Hero's Journey

>>384915556
I want another Dark Fantasy setting. But with some kind of twist, I'm sure FromSoftware can deliver it.

Also I want them to learn from DS3/BB weapon system, weapon arts +mana bar, etc.

>>384905675
>After then it was just a random jumble of settings and enemies
It's the same with DS1
Atleast DS3 is decent with that shit and you actually could see where everything's going
Dumb entitled fanboy
DeS is still the best

>>384901649
The bug enemy was based off of the demons described in the bible from the book of revelations. So that explains why they look so weird.

>>384915935
Even if it's just more medieval knights and swords and swamps and shit, I still want it.

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>>384901402

You literal manchild

>>384915935
Deserts probably work for dark fantasy, albeit lighting would be a bit brighter. I want some more freedom of movement though, maybe not full super mario but you should at least be able to scale a waist-high wall, besides for the rolling you're less mobile than an average IRL nerd

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>>384916408
>>384915935
The soulslike of my dreams is set in Great War-like era, with deep trenches and battlefields with mustard gas all over the place. Scarce amunition leads to development of melee weaponry, and the actual ammo can be used as quicksilver bullets in Bloodborne

>>384909715
The Last of Us oh gee bill, that was truly a horrific and dramatic experience. Be sure to buy the game of the year edition and the remaster for only 60$ goym. Last of Us was made ridiculous by its gameplay, redeemed by the story, DaS is the other way around. It's at worst, a tie, at best, you will realise Last of Us was sneaking / cover simulator with the most basic of drama cliches ( The Road, I mean, it literally has been done in book form before).

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