>tfw carrying team as best class (firebug) AGAIN When will

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>>384889659
>Fireshitters actually think Commando isn't relevant even though it has the strongest ability in the game: zed time extension
I agree SWAT is shit though.

Also, I had this happen the other day. Really wish I could have gone up to 10k.

>>384889659
when they are done having fun i guess

>>384889659
Nobody cares about your shitty game, Yoshiro

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>tfw berserker
>tfw it literally doesn't matter what anyone else does because I can solo with no cash

>>384890015
this guy would rather discuss overwatch and post in thinly veiled r34 threads

>play support
>have most kills
>earn most money
>kill all big zeds
>give ammo to team

Only support can carry since it's the best class to deal with any situation.

>>384889810
>needing zed time

I once hit a little over 1k kills on nuked as a firebug in a 6p hoe game.
Probs my most interesting top score

>>384890241
Until a triple Fleshpound spawns and you can't do shit.

>>384890351
>throw all grenades on them
>soften them with AA12
>finish off with double barrel

Ez

Why is demo so boring

>>384889659
About to finish leveling up Gunslinger to 25. What should I do next?

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>>384890075
>buff saw gun
>blocks 70% incoming damage
>decaps in 2 hits
>infinite ammo
>room for a DBS/medP
>btw we dont want the old meta of zerker > everything

Can anyone name 1 thing these fuckers didnt lie about?

>>384892364
Firebug

>>384891798
Its a straightforward power class, useful and strong but if you're protected well then theres little risks

>>384891798
because you are not melee shooting rockets like you should be.

>>384889659
>got gunslinger to level 25 finally
This class is pretty fun. I like its versatility. I got a question though: don't the lvl 25 zed time perks kinda make his passive zed time reload redundant?

>>384894441
Well it's good for after it finishes.
I like the infinite ammo during zed time best since I often run out of ammo otherwise.

>>384890351
>implying support can't wreck three big guys
AA12 and DBS destroy fuckers REALLY fast

>>384894658
>This class is pretty fun. I like its versatility. I got a question though: don't the lvl 25 zed time perks kinda make his passive zed time reload redundant?
At least with Whirlwind of Lead where you don't ever have to reload, yeah. I think the x3 firing rate one does benefit, but I don't even remember exactly what that does because I never use it. Being able to fire dual Desert Eagles for several seconds with a good Commando is god tier.

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>>384895214
>tfw you can finally carry AA12, DBS and DP-12

Why would you play any other class when support is all you need?

>>384895214
stop playing on hard shitter

>>384895214

AA-12 is probably the weakest Tier 4 weapon against big guys. Just look at how slow it damages bosses and how long it takes for a FP kill (on 6-man)

Its chief advantage is versatility. You can help with Scrakes and once in a while you can clear a mob of Husks and Sirens with it (things the other shotguns don't do that well)

They massively buffed the ammo you can carry for it and lowered its price, it used to be actually a dubious pick

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>tfw trying to solo HoE as Commando

Dinky fucking boss damage, my closest attempts involved off-perking a RPG7

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>anything better than berserker
zooming around in zedtime slashing zeds while supporting a huge rage erection doesn't get any better

>>384889659
>firebug

Stop playing on hard.

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>There are people in this very thread who don't enjoy playing Sharpshooter

>>384897251

Zerk is too good. I want a nerf. He does EVERYTHING well

>Clears trash well, even Crawlers you learn to deal with in melee range rather quickly
>Arguably best big guy killer
>Inarguably best boss killer
>Natural regen with a very strong alternative skill (175HP)
>Strong ranged weapon with Eviscerator, which with the Zerk's bonuses becomes the best or second best (RPG7 demo is also a strong contender now that bosses don't resist explosives. Rail with the proper buffs is better against FP but has lower DPS versus bosses) boss-killing weapon in the game

Basically a beginner perk, very easy to tap into its full potential

>>384897620
even with how strong zerk is i rarely see them in public lobbies which is weird
i zerk for my friends because they want to be commando/swat fags
>clears crawlers well
all you have to do is duck and slash like a mongoloid

>>384897562
My favorite class in KF1.
They ruined it into the ground by nerfing crossbow damage/stun and removing handcannon from perk weapons (Magnum is allright but way too small ammo capacity).
Also Zed behaviour is way to crazy to line up headshots reliably in a chaotic 6 player game.
Solo it's perfectly good though.

>>384897748

I only said that because many Zerkucks claim he needs help from the team to deal with Crawlers, which is utterly bogus

Zerk has pretty much no weaknesses, and his ZA WARUDO Zed Time skill is one of the deadliest in the entire game. It often translates to a free Scrake and FP kill

I have no idea what TWI was thinking. He is easier to use in all aspects, even his basic damage-dealing is much easier than shooting

>>384897961
i personally think gunslinger is way stronger than zerk

>>384892501
They didn't lie about releasing with 10 perks XD

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>>384897562
Because my aim is pretty shit, so that's why i play stupid overpowered perks that makes me feel pretty good.
Killing a scrake with the double barrel makes me tingly down there

>>384897835
That only really happens with Clots and Crawlers, which you can just bodyshot if needed. Anything else is easily headshottable. Use the LAR/Centerfire for anything below a Scrake, and the Rail Gun or the M14 depending on what skills you are using for Scrake and Fleshpound.

Seriously, I find very few things more enjoyable than doing things like shooting a Husk's backpack from across the map, or killing a bunch of Gorefiends because of how much I hate those motherfuckers before they can even start sprinting at anyone or block their heads like the faggots they are.

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>>384897562
Too slow.

>>384898338
I always found Gunslinger to be too much of a middleground to be enjoyable. If I'm gonna be headshotting shit all the time, I may as well play Sharp and actually feel like I have real power behind my shots. The only time Gunslinger was enjoyable to me was the weekly with the large zed heads.

>>384889659
SWAT is actually a fun alternative to firebug for clearing trash, Commando honestly feels much better for taking down the large targets then clearing trash.

>>384897620

They made him even easier by making the parry windows so large, it's almost impossible to mistime them. And his weapons got all fucking buffed, sans the Zwei (whose nerf is rather old)

He is the jack of all trades, master of all

>>384898496
>Commando for large threats
Move up from Hard difficulty, Anon.

>>384898240
The thing is your team needs to play along and not rage big zeds, oherwise you end up wasting a lot of ammo by shooting raged ones.
If the team is good it's a fun and balanced class, if the team is shit you will have a hellish time.
Other classes can deal with both situations way better.

>>384898468
To each his own, i just find standing still +crouching for maximum damage retarded.

Who is the best character, and why is it the reverand?

>>384889659
WHENS
HUSK
GUN

also some kind of lmg intermediate for commando like a bar or fg42 would be nice

>>384898804
Need more guns in general for every class.
Personally I want the Mac10 to come back the most.

>>384898069
GS Medic and Zerk are the holy trinity of perks you choose when you know the rest of your team is going to die. but GS is the only one that isn't retard-proof, so zerk is superior in that regard
>>384898742
AUUUGh, AEUUUEIIGH

what is the worst melee weapon and why is it the zweihander

>>384898742
Classic Masterson is best.

>>384898891
pulv knocks trash down without killing them so in that regard alone its worse than zwei. katana with massacre is underrated though

>>384899214
>chance to stun big zeds
i would take that for a little lower damage

>>384899214
If you strong meele headshot with it while using the right perks, it doesn't.

>>384897961
A husk will burn a zerk down, if the zerk approaches it like a retard. Gotta bait the fireball and jump over it before pushing its shit in, or just use the emp grenade. Siren can be an issue if it has a swarm of zeds around it. Gotta say I'm surprised there are people who still haven't figured out the zerk grenades keep zeds from raging or using special abilities.

>>384899390
i prefer killing them instead
>>384899540
or strong melee any part of their body with zwei for an instant kill

>>384899856

Zwei is viable, it just feels like fucking shit

It has the same range as the regular knife. It doesn't feel like a sword

Zwei's weakness is being poor VS Scrake and FP. I think both of them resist slashing damage

It otherwise kills trash just as well as Pulv. Some choice situations can be annoying without the Pulv's explosive alt (mob of crawlers you can't clear in one strike, Gorefiend's blade can block the Zwei but the Pulv alt will just kill it anyways, etc.)

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>tfw carrying the 6 man HoE team as a railgun+centerfire Sharpshooter
>scrakes and fleshpounds disappear without seconds after spawning
Feels good man. Thanks based firebug bro for keeping the trash off me though. I love firebugs.

>suicidal and HoE are dead as fuck
What the fuck happened, no one joins my HoE games until like wave 7

>>384900206
Don'r fleshpounds spawn raged and don't they need at least 2 headshots?
How do you pull it off?

>>384895738
The reload animation on it is wonky because there's no detachable magazine on the real one so the player character presses a non-existent magazine release. It's so weird seeing it once you notice it. And now you won't ever be able to un-see it.

You're welcome.

>>384900206
>Scrake/FP on fire
>panic
>enrage soon after panicking
...?

>>384900338

Mostly cucks trying to get an easy achievement, not realizing late joins can be very damaging to a team's prospects of winning

Guy joins on wave 7, the game gets a massive boost in Zeds per wave, but he's naked for dosh and often you won't have the means to kit him past tier 2 (you were probably not even saving dosh, not counting on people joining)

>>384900415
I play on PC with mouse + keyboard so I literally just click on their heads with the railgun. Crouch, sit still, aim down the scope, use the alt fire for more damage. Having a full stack of rack em up from assisting with trash with the centerfire helps too.

I will admit some of the crazier FP spawns in the later waves can be troublesome if RNG isn't in the teams favor but it's nothing a little kiting can't handle.

>>384900514
This is why you play with good firebugs that don't light big zeds on fire. On HoE everyone knows how to play so this is rarely an issue.

>>384899214
Doesn't pulv do more than katana?

>>384900536
Havent played for months, but I remember having so much cash in Sui that there was nothing left to do with it unless you're support or gunslinger.

>>384900630
>Crouch, sit still
Must be nice not playing with randoms, I can't do that or I die within 1 second because the small trash will eat my face.
Also zig zaging FPs who block their head are impossible to HS even with mouse.

>>384889659
https://youtu.be/2IPVLQiK2ps

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>>384898742
F O S T E R
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>>384900882
When was the last time you tried playing HoE? Firebug saw a big surge in popularity recently for some reason. Every time I join a HoE game there are like 3 firebugs in the lobby and they have to argue over which one is going to change perks. A good firebug can keep trash off the entire team once they get the flamethrower.

>>384898898
WHO NEEDS SEVEN SAMURAI NOW?

Did they ever make Support not fucking useless, because no Shotguns = no fun

>>384901252
SOFT AS SHITE

Is KF2 finally better than KF1? Last time I looked at it in early access, people were complaining it was stripped down compared to the first.

>>384901285
When's the last time you played, support's been good for like a year now.

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I literally cannot beat suicidal or HoE without being berserker

No one else in this fucking game is capable of parrying or shieldwalling, and the pubs sure as shit don't have good enough aim to survive the scrakes/FP's without one

I just want to shoot things

>>384901285
Support is great, they just don't shine until they're higher level with all the appropriate skills. They're strong vs scrakes, they have insane penetration for trash clearing, they give 20 armor and 30% of total ammo to everyone on the team once a round, they do okay damage to bosses with the AA-12, etc.

Don't make me reinstall faggots

>>384898871
>Mac10

Yeah, it's odd but I actually really miss that little thing.

>>384901438
More then a year ago. Also I havent had steady internet for the last few months so any online game was out of the question

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>>384889659
>mfw berserker master race
>just keep getting health the more i kill
>always the last one alive

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>>384901727
>taking vampire and/or skirmisher
How's hard mode buddy?

>>384901489

Mac 10 was pretty fun.

>>384901468
You should, the new weeklies are fun and there are some new weapons and balance changed added in the past few months.

>>384901936
Nothing wrong with Vampire if you are using Dreadnaught. Stop being a Medic's bitch.

Is it as good as killing floor 1 yet?

>>384901454
What Suicidal games have you been joining? Almost every time I join a Suicidal or HoE game (mostly HoE because I rarely play Suicidal unless I want to try retarded setups), I get a team that beats the boss rather consistently.

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>>384901408
>>384902554
Answer us NOW

>>384901408
It still has its faults but I think the game is in a much better state now. I definitely have more fun with it than KF1 because that game now feels way too slow.

>>384889659
SWAT and Commando can kill trash without accidentally doing splash damage to big zeds. Bugs cannot.

>>384900206
The only thing I wish they did was have a proper sniper rifle instead of that science fiction crap. I only use the weapon because of how powerful it is, not because I enjoy how it looks or sounds. I want the M99 back.

>>384902670
I put a lot of hours into both. Imo 2 is more fun these days. It had a lot of issues early on and it still has some issues, but the devs are trying and everything is slowly getting better.

It's more active than the first one, it's still getting balance updates, the new events are fun, etc. Give it a try it's on sale on a few places right now iirc

>>384902751
Have you played HoE? A lone swat or commando can not hold back entire waves of trash at a choke point like a good firebug can. Good firebugs also don't light big zeds on fire ever because panicking them guarantees the group is going to have a bad time.

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>>384902795
I want the crossbow to do some damage instead, I love that thing in KF1.
>berserker ranged weapon is more powerful than cowssbow

I'M FUCKING MAD

>>384902596
>What suicidal games have you been joining
Ones inexplicably filled with SWATs and pre-20 Firebugs

>tfw KF2 is your dream game but FPS make you nauseous to the point of vomiting and you can only play third person games

Changing the FOV, frame rate, where I sit, eating gravol or ginger, nothing stops it.

Fucking kill me

>>384890351

Triple fleshpounds is easy as Support if you're using the M4 Shotgun. You reload faster and you can stumble FP's with it and the gun received a 20% damage increased in later patches. AA12 damage is still high but it has almost negligible stumble power now.

I enjoyed sharpshooter in the first game. is it fun in 2?

>>384903237
ducking for extra damage is fun

>>384903148
I tried the shadow warrior reboot since it was free on humble bundle and it gives me a serious case of motion sickness even though I never experienced it before

>>384903237
It's arguably the best big zed killer. Railgun is stupid strong, you can kill anything in the game even on 6p HoE with 1-2 headshots with the right skills equipped.

It struggles a bit with solo play but in group play with a good team you will always be a credit to the team if you're consistent with big zed decaps.

>>384903237
Not as fun as in the first.

>>384903237
If the trash cleaners on your team do their job it is.

>>384903341
Apparently it has something to do with your brain interpretting the motion on screen as 'wrong' compared to your equilibrium and concludes you must be sick and tries to get you to throw up.

>tfw to smart for fps

How do I play Support on HOE? I don't want my teammates to get mad at me

inb4 "dont"

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Survivalist rework fucking when. It's sad that there is a completely useless perk taking up space. Part of me wants to spam solo play just to level it up in case we ever do get a good rework for it.

>>384903559
the motion in the game does feel off tbqh, it's weird cuz I never experienced it before even with 10+ hour gaming sessions

I consistently get top spot on my team as SWAT on suicidal. Haven't played HoE yet because I've only gotten classes to rank 20 so far. Why is it bad?

>>384903795
Kill scrakes, kill trash, always take the ammo backpack perk. Congrats you're a credit to the team and nobody will get mad at you.

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>>384903237
Yes it is, if you go for the skills that give you more power in individual shots. There's a skill tree which gives you more survivability by giving you higher stun power, higher fire rate, faster weapon switch, etc. (think how Sharps took out Scrakes in KF1 with the LAR/M14 combo by stunning them and then spamming their heads), but I find that setup to be really dull. Stunning is no longer as easy as it was in KF1, and it is very likely you will have raged the zed before you get the stun.

The skill tree that gives you more power makes you a lot more vulnerable. You need to crouch, stand still, and aim down your sights to get the maximum damage possible. Like this, if your trash clearers aren't doing their job, you can kiss your armor goodbye in seconds, and your health a little later. However, if your team does play around you, you instakill Scrakes with one shot, and can also delete Fleshpounds if you use a freezing grenade or are willing to take a bit of a risk and headshot it while it's raging (think how the M99 worked in KF1, except no longer with ammo price that'd leave Bill Gates broke).

>>384903915
Should the medic shotgun be considered?

>>384903858
Lacks the commando's ability to extend zed time. I like swat too but blowing away zeds in slomo for 15 seconds never gets old.

>>384904034
If the team isn't that good and you expect to have to go into kiting, yeah. If the team is looking solid, it's better to go for the AA12 and DBS.

>>384903858
Top kills mean absolutely nothing.

SWAT is considered mediocre because it brings basically nothing unique to the team. Firebug is a better trash cleaner, Commando does slightly less dps but it extends zed time for the entire team and calls out cloaked zeds for the entire team. Support is comparable but is better at taking down scrakes and provides free dosh for the entire team via ammo backpack perk.

Best thing about SWAT is how good the flashbang is, but Sharpshooters freeze grenade is more reliable and they're better at killing FPs and Scrakes which is more important on HoE than trash cleaning since a lone firebug can handle that np.

>>384903858
Redundant to Commando. Commando actually headshots a lot of trash pretty quickly and doesn't leave stumbling bodies without heads for a few seconds. SWAT needs more ammo to decapitate a zed, often leaves it stumbling, his ammo even costs more than Commando's at the trader, and can't extend zed time. SWAT brings really nothing to the table on HoE.

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Its nice that people can agree that KF2 is in a good state now.

Did they buff the AA12 or something? I feel like a while ago it was considered mediocre.

>>384904569
It was free on PS4 I cant complain, its the only reason I even bothered to get into it, its not as bad as people were saying and I consider buying it on PC now when its cheaper

>>384904681
Tons more ammo, and the Tight Choke skill from Support to reduce spread also helps.

>>384904681
AA12 was always good. It's especially unreal when you hit 25 and can fire it in real-time during zedtime. The amount of DPS relatively is off the charts.

>>384900156
scrakes only resist piercing melee attacks. and on the FP wave you should be using the evis anyway bc its better at killing them. its just a choice of whether you want to knock trash down or kill them instead. plus the zwei's backpedaling strong attack is a downward swing which makes headshots much easier.

>>384903798
Probably never. It's nothing more than a hastily put together perk to meet the perk count they promised after martial artist fell through. It will forever be nothing more than a placeholder.

>>384890314
>>384889659
Okay?

Firebug is the easiest fucking class. Don't act like you're even doing much.

>Try to play SS or GS
>Local firebug constantly hitting FP and Scrake
And now I just play support and zerk.

>all berserker team
OH YEAH BABY

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>>384905264
I don't know, the devs seem to at least sort of care about player feedback. Everyone is begging for a rework it's bound to happen eventually. It will probably coincide with a big event like Halloween or Christmas like the other reworks and balance changes.

>>384905278
Firebug is very easy to play, but also very easy to play badly. You'd be surprised how many shit firebugs there are even on the higher difficulties.

I'm a level 21 Gunslinger. I picked Gunslinger cause I liked the Stephen King book of the same name. I like that stacking headshots gives me a damage multiplier. I like racking up headshots with my 9mm and getting my multiplier up, and then pulling out my twin 500 magnums to finish off the enemy.

>playing on hard because starting a new class
>some level 25 commando joins the game
>mic on sounds like some dirty pajeet
>starts talking big about how shit we're doing (a few were dead at the time)
>says he's here to save us
>constantly yelling BEHIND YOU BEHIND YOU!! in the mic like there isn't fucking always something behind you
>next round starts
>he dies nearly instantly
>finally shuts up
>Gets kicked before the next round

>>384905692
Yes, but I'll be damned if some firefag thinks he's hot shit in a game with headshot classes.

>>384905872
It's a team based game anon. I don't play firebug but I appreciate what a good firebug can do on the higher difficulties. I mostly play Sharpshooter and Demolitionist so actually being able to focus on big zed takedowns without worrying about trash up my anus is nice.