does anyone else just love the shit out of this game? srhk has

i played it a bit, pretty fun. the combat isnt that bad, is it?

> there aren't going to be any more shadowrun games any time soon.
why

>>384858280

Because they're working on some of their other projects. Like BATTLETECH.

Dragonfall was better.

>>384857361

The combat isn't that bad, it does a good job of transposing Shadowrun combat into a game system. SR HK is a bit harder than the past SR games though with money and equipment being tight.

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came here to post this

>>384860597
I'm stuck at APEX
On one side, he is going to "help" me and "has monica's thoughts"
On the otherside, it's a super intelligent AI who can be playing me as a fiddle
But then I won't get help infiltrating the mansion without him
Pls provide an arguments for one choice without spoilers

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Here's one HBS retweeted from a fan.

>>384860793
Ask yourself how it has Monika's thoughts and whether you trust it to do as it says.

>>384860793
I decided to help the AI. He does offer help in the last mission, but with a terrible twist. I told him to fuck off and it got really angry at me. I'm an idiot.

>>384860793

Welcome to where your choices actually matter in the narrative of the game.

>>384861395
Dragonfall did choices so much better than HK. It felt like they dropped the ball when it came to choices during runs in HK. There were really no hard choices to make on runs there.

>tfw still sitting on the game not having made a character since I can't decide what to play through the game as first

>>384861549
I can think of one
>little girl mission in the HK DLC
>not sure who's telling the truth at the end
>two evil sounding choices that offer an easier fight
>good sounding option that offers a really hard unfair fight where you're instantly surrounded and outnumbered
>picking that option leads to the closes thing to a happy ending
>still super depressing

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>>384860494
>Battletech

>countries and Maori still existing in the 3000's

>>384861351

He kind of asked for spoiler free dude.

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>>384861649
Decker, at least I had the most fun with my cyborg-upped decker. They are expensive as hell as you need to buy the most equipment for them, but they are by far the most radical dudes.

>>384861802

Welcome to works of fiction where anything can be written?

>>384862034
Nothing in Battletech previous has mentioned Earth countries still being a thing in the age of Houses

>>384861949
crap, at least my spoilers are as vague as possible.

>>384857361
What was great about Hong Kong's writing? It was pretty good, but it didn't strike me as top tier writing.

>>384861649
I went decker/rigger with some points in rifle. You end up a little too "jack of all trades, master of none," but it allows greater flexibility when choosing party members. Especially since bringing another rigger means you effectively get two additional teammates.

>>384857361
All the characters are fucking shit. Is0bel and the rat-bitch are fucking physically revolting, urgh.

The combat is also barebones trash with zero challenge. The game is a decent RPG, though, and I don't regret buying it.

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>on a run
>doing good
>knight errant forces show up

>>384861649
Honestly just make the character you'd like to play. You have teammates to fill in the roles you're not playing.

>>384862159
>What was great about Hong Kong's writing?
Quantity. In what other game does every vendor tell your their whole life story?

But honestly now, I don't know. The mystical city wide nightmares and a futuristic walled city are a pretty interesting hook for me.

>>384862076
That's ancestry though, not countries
Your ancestors can be from long gone countries/cultures

but can you fuck bitches?

>>384857361
I love the atmosphere and the writing is great but Dragonfall has all of that + incredibly good pacing, which is HK's weakness

If you love these games try out the Expeditions Conquistador and Viking, I find they have the same level of great rpg writing

>>384857361
Fucking horrible game, terrible writing, you must be a fucking pile of shit

>>384862292
The Japanese samurai ghoul and the Russian robot mechanic are really fantastic characters. They make up for Is0dwarfnig and that gross rat.

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>>384862357
>>>/tumblr/

>>384862076
Jordan Weisman (Created the series) is heading the Battletech game. If he says it fits then it fits, considering its his universe.

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>>384857361
Waaaay too short.

>>384862076

That's ancestry dude, that's nothing to do with Earth countries.

>>384861767
That was literally the only challenging mission in the entire trilogy for me if you go independent and say fuck you to both of them in order to let the girl decide,. And that's primarily because you're at the mercy of two enemy AI groups that MAY fight each other or gang up on you purely on RNG.

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>>384862425
>gross rat
She's adorable for someone more filthy than your average punk fan.

But we all know that the DeckCon noodle machine was the best character in the game.

I found Hong Kong to be tedious in general, really off-putting for some reason I can't really pinpoint. The fact is I enjoyed Returns and absolutely loved Dragonfall, but Hong Kong is just one of those games that I had to force myself through playing and never want to play again, no matter how bored I might be.

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>>384861549
yeah. I really did not like how the story was spread out in hong kong and it feels like they wasted too much writing on npc's life stories that you really need to go out of your way to read. there was some good shit, but hiding the best way to deal with the final boss in a chain dialog with a magic shop owner is unforgivable bullshit.

I thought HK got a little wordy at times. There was SO MUCH dialogue and exposition in Heoi that doesn't really relate to what the player is working on and they can't really participate in those events. Dragonfall was much tighter in that way. You could learn about the denizens of your kiez but it was concise and related mostly to how you were stepping up to Monika's legacy.

>>384862782

Wasn't that bugged on release?

What are some good community-made stories for this?

>>384860597
Dragonfall had by FAR the best final fight both in terms of narrative payoff and tense difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srujv6YNPAg

>>384862924
they are all terrible

>Couldn't fuck the smelly female orc on top of a heap of garbage

shit game

>>384862924
there are sadly very few and you can find 90% of them on steam workshop. it saddens me people didn't embrace it as nwn1 for modding because the potential is there.

>>384861649
Don't go melee adept in Hong Kong, you will always be an inferior Gaichu.
Decker is a good choice in both hong kong and dragonfall. In my opinion decker npcs are a bit boring in both but you need a decker.

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>>384857361
Who's the best PC portrait and why is it this fucker right here?

>>384862638

It's probably the tone of the game. The first game had a strong investigative element to it, almost noir like and you had a good support crew looking out for you. Dragonfall was mostly a revenge story and your crew was tight knit and the communities in the game would pay attention. Hong Kong has this weirdness that's almost lovecraftian in terms of its weird nature and everything is quite depressive and almost everyone tells you to fuck off.

I enjoyed DMS original.

>>384862337
No it's not a Bioware game.

so I haven't gotten around to playing these games. I own them but just wasn't sure if I could just start at Dragonfall, because I heard Shadowrun Returns was lackluster, or if I needed to understand anything from Returns.

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>>384862965
>any HBS Shadowrun games
>difficulty
>in a game where 99% of enemies are literal trash with 1 action point, who cannot move and shoot on the same turn while your characters can have up to 3 action points AND can get hasted
>in a game where overwatch exists and can be spammed non stop
>difficulty
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA. The only actually challenging Shadowrun game is Chronicles, especially the infected missions. Everything else is babby's first SRPG tier shit.

>>384863131

>Hong Kong has this weirdness that's almost lovecraftian in terms of its weird nature and everything is quite depressive and almost everyone tells you to fuck off.

I don't mind depressing tones and themes at all. Or weird shit. I love Void and Pathologic, for example, and find myself replaying those games from time to time, but Hong Kong is just plain dull.

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>>384863112
Isn't being a Mage the best choice because there's no Mage companion in the entire trilogy?

the problem with hk is you can spend 40min talking between missions which is great except the side missions take you sometimes as little as 10 min

>>384863238
All 3 games are different independent stories set in a persistent universe of Shadowrun, so the order in which you play them doesn't matter too much. Returns is shortest and has the least polish in gameplay (least items, options, reasons to explore levels...), Dragonfall is noticeably longer and improved and HK adds ever more shit and is even longer.

>>384863098

Well it's because people had to convert shit across three games. And converting from SRR/DF to HK is not straightforward because there were some engine changes and whatnot. There's a crapload of mods and stuff for the original SR and DF games but very few for HK.

>>384863112
I think monk's pretty good for the stun lock potential.

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>>384863116
Dwarves, when will they learn.

>>384860793
I really felt like he was just using Monica's face as a mask and had no actual 'her' in her anymore than a library with a dissected butterfly in a display case is the butterfly.

>>384863098
The fact that they released 3 different games which all had different features available in the editor and HK which lacked the assets of the first 2 games really fucked with the modding community. That and HBS never really gave enough info about all the features available in the editor.

>>384863298
Pretty good choice, since all your caster npc are shaman/mage hybrids. The thing about decker is you pretty much have to have one on every run, thus you have to tolerate Is0bel or that one guy I keep forgetting in Dragonfall.

>>384863238
I would start with Returns, yes it's linear and basic compared to Dragonfall but it's a neat little story and it's the only game where you're usually alone and have to hire runners for support.

I told the decker in Dragonfall to stop pursuing his ex gf as he struck me as obsessive and creepy when he started talking about her. Did I miss out on a side mission or something?

>>384863116
>there are people who didn't use custom anime portraits.
Pretty weak.

>>384863785
Nah, his side-mission is an entirely different mess he got himself into. Despite Blitz being a fuck up I really like having him around.

>>384863785
You missed an achievement I think, but Junkrat is better off not worrying about her anyways

>>384863785
Blitz's side mission involves repaying his debts and it's a pretty fun run even moreso if you also happen to be a Decker and can prevent him from fucking up everything even worse than it already is.

>>384863785

Nah it doesn't affect any side missions, just a narrative for his character development. His personal side mission involves him in another fuckup of his though.

Any good mods for Dragonfall?
>tfw too dumb to make mods for this game

Hong Kong was about as good as Dragonfall, but it tried to follow up on a game with a big ZING plottwist with another... big ZING plottwist.

You can't do that. That's why KotOR 2 wisely avoided it after KotOR1. When people are playing through the game going, "Okay, when is the other shoe going to drop...?" they are not receptive to that sort of writing. You're just driven to make it EVEN MORE OUT OF LEFT FIELD, and that's... well, rapidly self-defeating.

I think that's pretty much the only reason Hong Kong is worse than Dragonfall, both actually-being-worse and perceived-as-worse.

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Apex Monica > Regular Monika

>>384864306
Nah, HK is definitely overwritten compared to Dragonfall, there's just so much text to go thru between runs and the runs themselves can feel pretty short because you have a lot more chances to talk your way thru them without much, if any, combat and what combat there is feels too easy because they AP limited the AI for some damn reason.

>duncan being a little bitch because he didnt get his SIN back

fuck what was I supposed to do? I thought you were starting to enjoy this new life

>>384864406
A shame APEX drops the persona after she's free. I wanted her to be my waifu.

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>>384864406
Human Monica > APEX Monica

Seriously how can anyone side with APEX after it dlid that to poor Monica?

>>384864651
Do yourself a favor and play thru HK with only him, Gobbet and Is0bel. Don't recruit Racter or Gaichu. At the end take the deal. Then play the bonus campaign and do whatever the hell you want because no is around to whine about it.

>>384864406
>that first time Apex talks to you as Monica

maximum creeps, what a great game

>>384863238
Returns is simple in a sense you can tell it was a kickstarted game and still had to keep the tablet audience in mind. Dragonfall and Hong Kong's final versions were clearly made with PC as the primary audience.

>this fucking captcha bullshit

>>384864857
>only Duncan, Gobbet and Is0bel
this 100x. these three characters are all excellently written and have awesome stories and side missions. some of my favorite characters ever over the 20 something years i've been playing video games. be careful though, you might fall in love with gobbet.

>>384864651
Bad writing, imo. It should be pretty fucking clear to him that he doesn't have much of a life left in Seattle after being blamed for a freaking terrorist attack. Why would he be pissed enough at you to sever connections with not just you but the entire crew as a whole? Shadows of Hong Kong seems more fitting as an epilogue to the bad good luck ending more than anything else.

>>384864857
>bonus campaign
What bonus campaign? Is it included in the Director's Cut version of HK? I only played the regular version.

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>>384864406
>>384864694
>trusting an A.I.

>>384865103
free expansion

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>>384865042
>Gobbet
>Is0bel
>excellently written

>>384865103
You have access to it, HK is called the Extended Edition because they added a short extra campaign called Shadows of Hong Kong that's meant to be played after you finish the main campaign. It wraps up the story for everyone involved.

>>384864869
The way she refers to you as her ace in the whole when Monica in a message she left behind described you as such was fucking spooky.

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Hong Kong is the best time to roll a Physical Adept. It'll never have a more appropriate setting.

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>>384865204
Too bad Gaichu upstages you.

>mfw drugged up Gaichu in Haven stance

>>384865204
There's no reason to roll anything but a street sammy with an assault rifle in any of the HBS Shadowrun games.

>>384865064

I wouldn't say bad writing. Duncan is just somewhat naive in his understanding of how the world works in SR. This is someone who's lived with all the perks of being a Lone Star officer with all the perks of a SIN and saw only in black and white of "Lone Star are good and Shadowrunners are bad" and thinks everything can always go back to the way it was when all is said and done.

>>384865408
There's no reason to roll anything but a Rigger/Decker with a sniper rifle because you won't have the AP to effectively use the AR when you have 2 drones active.

>>384865552
I'd totally believe that if there wasn't an entire backstory conversation about all the shit you and him did back in da hood.

Duncan in bonus campaign was a fucking rape machine firing 10 shots per action and instakilling everything through cover

>>384865647
Duncan "Wrestle Spirits to the ground, throw 'em in the pound" Wu

>>384865647
The mistake I, and I assume others, make is not going to the Tiger's Den first. You absolutely should do that first because it's where you'll pick up the Ares HVAR, Panther Assault Cannon and 2 Remington shotguns. Duncan can make immediate use of the HVAR and assault cannon and those 2 shotguns earn you some nice Nuyen if you have no other use for them.

>>384865371
>he uses Gaichu's inferior sword build

Ghoul build all the way, fampai.

>>384864651
>wants his life and family back instead of being an eternally indentured servant to a vicious Chinese gangster

Oh man, why would he be upset? Gee, I fucking wonder.

Of course, if you actually take the deal to get your SINs back, then he opens his own successful private security company and you, he, and your foster father are all happy and together and it confirms you're basically a fucking idiot to pass it up.

> Really love cyberpunk
> Hear that the Shadowrun games are good
> Find the whole concept of 'fantasy meets cyberpunk' incredibly stupid
> Really puts me off playing them

Is there actually a logical explanation WHY magic and technology coexist? Is the setting actually enriched by the existence of dwarves and elves? Is the game more cyberpunk or is it more fantasy?

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What a coincidence, I was just playing Dragonfall and I just finished Returns a couple day ago. I love it so far. I just did Glory's personal quest.

Really makes me want to play the tabletop.

Also there is a new cop movie coming out with Will Smith in it that is basically shadowrun.

I want to hold Glory's hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jBbq6c9EEQ&

Kreuzbasar was one of the comfiest hubs in any game

>>384866183
As if Auntie would be stupid enough to try and fuck with you and your crew. You're basically a group of prime runners working for chump change.

>>384866220
Yes
Yes
Both blend incredibly well to create a setting that has all the cool things from both, like the matrix and demons from other dimensions. Just fucking play dragonfall

>>384866220
Yes there's a logical explanation as to why magic exists. I'm not going to try to explain it though, google if it you want to read about that shit. As for the races, they basically use them to beat you over the head with allusions to racism. Elves are sneaky elitist bastards, Trolls and Orcs are big, dumb brutes, etc. Of course those are stereotypes and individuals vary. The games are cyberpunk af, outside of the magic and fantasy races it's all cyberpunk.

>>384866220
Technology is a thing metahumanity created while magic is ancient and has always existed even before the beginning of the sixth world but was resting and dormant before the awakening.

>>384866220
I was kinda on the same boat but the games are great and the setting just works. I think what helps is that races don't fully define what characters are and do.

>>384857361
I didn't like how to get the best ending I would have had to check in on the girl doing research which I stopped after she never made any progress. Otherwhise it was pretty good.

>>384862889
Yes. I was subject to said bug, but I thought the ending fit a little better anyway.

Still doesn't compare to XCOM 2's bug, where the week it came out, I made it to the end on ironman classic only to have my save file bug out on me on the final boss. Reloading it would crash the game, even on later updates.

>>384866319
Man I really wish HBS had thought to do a Shadows of Berlin bonus campaign for Dragonfall. It would be sweet to see how the kiez was doing after the events of the main campaign.

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Still like the Genesis game much more than the PC ones. I was sort of hoping it would be like an expanded Genesis game but it wasn't even close. Didn't mind the turn based combat, but the game was so restrictive in where you could wander off to, as in you really couldn't wander anywhere.

>>384863239
I don't remember any single AP enemies, though I do remember abusing the shit out of kneecap shot in the original SRR, before they added a cooldown. That said, there weren't too many fights that were really that challenging if you had any sort of a combat build, even on very hard.

I haven't played much of Chronicles, does it have a good story, or is it mostly gameplay focused? My friends don't care much for shadowrun, so I'd be going it alone.

>>384866895
I would've liked it to start with you working for Lofwyr and the epilogue being a few years later when he tries to take control of the F state while you can either convince him to leave your part of it alone, threaten to have a talk with APEX about releasing Panacea, engage in an epic fight with him until you manage to somehow bring him down, or just fight off the waves upon waves of enemies he sends after you until they're all dead.

>>384867034
Chronicles is what Shadowrun Online devolved into, there's an extremely bare story but it's all combat focused with loot drops and shit like a MMO. I played thru it and it was.... ok but it's nothing like the HBS games.

>>384866965
>I was sort of hoping it would be like an expanded Genesis game but it wasn't even close

I did too, but it probably wouldn't have worked out as well as we imagined. Most of the Genesis one's gameplay came from grinding randomly generated missions. That was fun at the time, but SRR's focus on purposefully-designed missions with their own stories was a better call.

That said, an Fallout-style open-world Shadowrun would make me rock hard.

>>384867034
>does it have a good story, or is it mostly gameplay focused
It's a turn based tactics game, not a RPG. It's focused on pure coop combat and has some of the hardest missions ever seen in SRPGs, which is why it's good.

>>384867301
Dammit, anon, now I have a raging stiffie.

>>384867301
Isn't that what Cyberpunk 2077 is supposed to be? An open world RPG?

>>384861649

Decker with Rifles and speech skills. Your goal is to replace Monika.

>>384867301
I'd love it with more expanded runs that you could pick up from Johnson's. I would dick around with that so much you wouldn't even know. I ended up doing that so much in the Genesis game even if they were just a limited amount of them, if it was corp infiltration, ghoul elimination, transport, or matrix run in which you downloaded or deleted data. I have no clue how many hours I put into just that.

I mean there aren't the limitations of the Genesis anymore so I am sure they could dredge up new sort of shadowruns that wouldn't be story related in which you can dick around for obtaining karma and nuyen.

>>384867405
>CDPR
>RPG
LMAO. Skyrim has more roleplaying depth than all 3 Witcher games combined. The only character generation and advancement decision that influences anything outside of combat in Witcher games is the use of Axii in Witcher 3, so you can roleplay either as Witcher who can use Axii or a Witcher who cannot, which is the extent of the roleplaying depth in ALL 3 games, since the first two games don't have any roleplaying at all.

>>384865640

Even back then he was just always following the MC on what to do. Duncan's character is somewhat co-dependent on other people close to him to give him direction and purpose. His father, his Lone Star partner, his sibling(MC).

>>384867572
don't be a fag, it's not funny

>>384861023
Coyote's face isn't messed up enough.

>>384867839
Not an argument. CDPR make action games with stats, not RPGs.

>>384867991
It was the other side of her face that was scarred, you can't see it from that angle.

>>384868061
this is the purist's argument but it's factually correct.

>>384868061
never claimed to be an arguement

>>384868131
just to extrapolate, whether or not it's WRONG that the witcher games are basically story-driven action games is open to interpretation, but even bioware makes games which are truer to classical RPG standards than cdpr

>>384860597

Yeah I enjoyed the writing of Dragonfall far more, but Hong Kong was okay.

When I played Hong Kong I had a gamebreaking glitch in Gobbet' s loyalty mission, so that hampered my enjoyment a little.

>>384868061
You are just as big a faggot as people who claim Zelda is an RPG because "hurr you're playing the role of Link."

>>384868684
Ugh, you have to talk to Cadmus about Gobbet's plans to blow up the ship if you want to progress. It's really really stupid.

>>384867208
Do you really think you can kill a dragon?

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remake or proper port when?

;_;

>>384869000
You could kill all the dragons in Dragonfall. It's not like that tech was lost. You just won't like the result if you do.

>>384868783
Adventure of Link is an RPG.

>>384869000
Just got to shoot it, punch it, stab it, and explode it enough times until it dies.

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>>384863116
disinterested chinese elf

>>384869513
You've played Dragonfall, right? The Luftwaffe couldn't even bring down a dragon with all their weapons.

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Unreleated game but I figured someone in this thread would have [played it. Thinking of getting this game but I heard there's severe hp bloating where it takes you entire squad ganging up on someone for a turn before he dies. Is that true?

>>384869654
And that was just a dragon out in the open, Lofwyr owns one of the largest megacorps in the setting.
No fucking way a single runner team even gets close to hurting him personally.

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>>384869641
This man speaks truth. She fit the dialogue perfectly. You could also make an elf rifle build, which wrecked absolutely everything on screen. There were 3 different extremely high tier rifles in the game with unique effects. Two of them quest rewards. Shit was busted.

>>384869641
"Greetings, mortal, would you like to sell the souls of thousands of people for fourteen years of good luck?"

"...Suure."

"The fuck, sis! I won't let you do this!"

"...Whatever."

*Slaughter happens*

"It is done! Farewell, mortal!"

"...Bye."

>>384870089
Tracer rounds fucked up bitch queen's dodge chance.

>>384869654
They weren't punching, shooting, stabbing, or exploding her hard enough.

I wanna get back into playing Hong Kong but I get frustrated because I'm usually 1 <attribute> away from everything and second guessing my etiquette choices which usually results in me requiring the etiquette I changed from. I usually go for a human, decker, AR build because decking is life

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by far the best portrait for the game
>playing as anything but a troll mage/phsyical adept

>elf decker for returns
>dwarf rigger for dragonfall
>troll street samurai for hong kong
did i do alright /v/?

>>384870457
I don't remember ettiquite mattering for more than just having interesting lines with Gaichu and Racter.

>>384870557
Dragonfall has the most interesting Decking sections imo.

>Elf Shaman for Returns
>Physical Adept for Dragonfall
>Elf Street Samurai for Hong Kong

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>>384870458
Dwarven Mage/Decker > all if you don't mind the slightly longer cooldowns

>>384870569
It's a personal thing more than anything. I like special dialogue interactions with certain characters so it's just a little frustrating

>>384870830
Academic, Corporate, and Security seem to be the most interesting of the bunch. Shadowrunner is okay and the rest are useless.

>>384871084
>not taking gang for those early bonus karma.

>>384862330
>>384862076
Why the fuck is it at all relevant though?

It serves no purpose other than to pander to diversity bullshit

>>384866965
>>384867301
Is SNES Shadowrun different from Genesis Shadowrun?

>>384867301
Have you tried Underrail?

It's probably the closest you'll ever get

>>384871841
Yes they're completely different games. The Genesis game is open world, the SNES game is a RPG.

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>Next Shadowrun game takes place in Aztlan territory.
>Blood mages, blood mages everywhere.
>A Feathered Serpent is your mcguffin.

How fucked up are you?

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>>384857361
I just cant stand the filler dialogue, like its says so much shit without actually meaning something.

I litterally couldnt get past the first area after i got introduced to the boat crew because i started talking to some pld man side characters about some dreams they had about the protagonist and the whole district, it was so fucking filler filling that i just stopped there and never touched the game again.

>>384872685
I punch them to death with my mighty mystic adept fist and zap them of their AP.

>>384857361
I played Dragonfall and I loved the whole magic+technology setting it has I want to check out the other Shadowrun games sometime

>>384872818
They really dropped the ball with Hong Kong's dialogue. At least in Dragonfall it either gave backstory or insight into characters.

>>384869769
Not at all. It's great.

You just get better results if you try and pick off and gang up on enemies. For example I might block a doorway with a dude I've specked into shield use and dry and get him to defend against multiple dudes while I flank and take out some of their squishier turds.

Coincidentally in that fight his shield arm was severed so I guess he's not my tank any more.

>>384869769

That's if you come up against 'Impressives' unit types in a warband. They're basically the "big tanks" of any warband and you have access to one too. Bear in mind because some of them are huge they cannot fit in some areas and can be tied up with your own impressives or armoured dudes.

Game is good and these guys are going to do Necromunda(basically the Warhammer 40k version of Mordheim)

>>384857361
A shame the game that had the best graphic changes, with the exception of leylines, and gameplay changes was probably the worst character wise and almost story wise.

Should I buy one of these games or wait for a sale??

>>384871725

In Battletech RPG and in the lore race has has always had some effect on standing within certain parts of the Inner Sphere and houses. I mean it's kind of hard to infiltrate House Liao if you're not ethnic Chinese.

>>384872818

>i started talking to some pld man side characters about some dreams they had about the protagonist and the whole district

That stuff actually becomes relevant you know.

>>384862292
Fuck you. Gobbet is cute. Cute!

>>384862810
Fluxstate / Kiez > Triad bullshit
Germany >>>>>>>> China

I'm glad they got that right.

>You will never have dirty alleyway sex with Gobbet

>>384873445
Pirate Shadowrun Returns, it's the worst of the 3 games. If you like the setting and the gameplay then either buy them right now if you don't care or wait to keep most of your shekel.

>>384873561
I figure as much since it had a very "hit you in the head until you understand it" tone of prophecy of shit going down.

But my god did that shit took like 5 to 10 minutes of pure fucking pointless dialogue.

In Daggerfall with the magic owner dude and the cafe dude, both of them had on point dialogue that explained what needed to be explained and it was just short and sweet.

Here is like they had no one as a editor or some shit and the writer went full on autismo overwriting shit.

>>384873445

It goes on sale fairly often.

>>384873445
Dragonfall is a 9/10 rpg, buy it

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>>384864406
Superior AI waifu coming through

>>384873445
Loved Dragonfall myself, definitly recommend if you think you'd be interested.

Only got like halfway through HK though, unsure if I want to go back now and I can't even remember why I stopped playing.

>>384873853
Dragonfall is currently on sale on GOG for $2.99. That's a crazy good deal.

>>384873789

I understand where you're coming from. HK is very word heavy compared to the past two SR games.

Also I presume you meant Dragonfall instead of Daggerfall because the only thing I remember from Daggerfall is VENGEAAAAAAAAAANCE.

>>384873789
They had an editor, she was the wife of the head writer. You can see the problem there.

>>384874002
>Dragonfall instead of Daggerfall because the only thing I remember from Daggerfall is VENGEAAAAAAAAAANCE.

Kek yeah i referred to Dragonfall, maybe i will give HK a try but skipping the side dialogue in the hub.

>>384874058
god damn it, a litte of triming down would be neat.

It reminds me of Pillars of Eternity, fucking game that had a ton of filler NPCs that were backers rewards shit, it was the most annoying shit ever because i didnt knew those faggots were community made, so i was recollecting the equivalent of junklore.

>>384867572
>It's an anon believes RPGs are defined by a character generator episode
The absolute worst.

>>384857361
Hong Kong was good but Dragonfall was better. In fact, I never quite finished Hong Kong, think it had some bug in the final mission and I never went back to redo it.

>>384873789
>pure fucking pointless dialogue
what kind of dialogue would you characterize this one we are engaging in right now? i'm gonna skip a bit of rhetoric and just say that -- like right now -- if something is enjoyable, it is a good thing. you wouldn't be wasting time pointlessly talking about video games on /v/ if you didn't enjoy it, and that dialogue you found pointless might have been interesting to someone else.

personally, i really enjoyed being able to stop and talk at length with random people in heoi. reminded me of a jack vance novel

How the fuck do i initiate combat first?

>>384874341
click on the holster on the top right

>Racter doesnt get essence loss

Wot why is he special

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Is HBS new game out? I want them to make another Shadowrun

>>384874363
He gets essence loss but its mental effects don't affect him.

>>384874297
Something about the side characters in the hub just rubbed me wrong.

I went outside expecting sweet short dialogue, but i got a very weird tone talking with everyone, it was a bit "enjoyable" at first talking to some sort of vendor guy in the harbor, then i moved up and talked to some old guys playing and then i started talking to some guy and by that point i was just so fucking tired of reading stuff that never lead to nowhere that i turned off the game.

I will take my approach of not reading into that shit anymore and focus on the story presented to me, POE did give me a burn out for reading lore.

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>>384874360
I'm playing returns. There is no holster in the top right, or anywhere really

>>384874363
He's an emotionless sociopath.

Gobbet, Racter and Gaichu are the best NPCs in HongKong

>>384874363
Something about being a perfect sociopath keeps him intact.

>>384874363
Isn't he like, 0.1 from being dead or something.

>>384874561
You sound like an underage faggot. I bet you never read any books either.

>>384874561
maybe this kind of game just isn't your thing. personally, i think the idea of characterizing completely optional dialogue sequences is pretty asinine, and that mindset endemic to the kind of formulaic, by-the-numbers storytelling which typifies writing in modern videogames.

>>384874741
>idea of characterizing completely optional dialogue sequences
idea of characterizing completely optional dialogue sequences as pointless, it should read

>>384874595
Psychopath actually. The difference is a sociopathy is the result of nurture while psychopathy is the result of nature but both are relatively similar.

Yeah, I fucking love those three. Hate Is0bel's pussy guts.

>>384874648
Nigga i played since the Ultima games and the gold RPG games, i have played heavy dialogue games but most of them had dialogue that felt meaningful and not fucking bland (also i was a kid and teen, i had a lot of time).

Now if i get presented with dialogue that feels bland i just keep giving it a chance to see what it has to offer (Divinity Original Sin comes to mind).

Since i know what the game has to offer after playing Dragonfall and Returns, i was expecting more of HK, but instead i just got overwriting where i knew i could trim down that shit and the dialogue would become the same but more short and sweet.

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>>384857361
>IM STILL FUCKING WAITING DATA EAST YOU SONS OF BITCHES!!!

>>384874943
Shut up and die, scaly scum.

I love it so far but as of late I can't play the game, due to some strange bug I'm eternally stuck at loading screen

Anyone care to help?

Any fun builds? I just roll with an AR build because it makes the terrible combat fun enough by just wrecking everyone's shit in.

>>384875002
Try verifying the integrity of your game files.

Right click on game --> properties --> local files --> verify integrity of game files.

>>384875213
I loved playing as a mage and as an adept.

For my second playthrough of Dragonfall I played a Decker with pistols because I hate Blitz.

>>384875405
I love him. He somehow manages to make shots with a 50%-60% chance to hit.

Genisis or SNES version of Shadowrun?

>>384872132
open world done right

>>384875542
I prefer the SNES version. The open world nature of the Genesis version is confusing, everything looks the same and you have no idea where to go or what to do,

How has the SNES version on the game aged? I tried it on an emulator on my phone but couldn't get into it much. Does it get better? I only played for 30 minutes at most

>>384862638
I felt the same way, and I likewise found it difficult to pinpoint what I disliked about it. I think it was two things. The somewhat incoherent and poorly paced plot, and the fact that the cast of characters has poor chemistry. In Dragonfall every character felt like they belonged there and meshed well with the other characters. In Hong Kong you have two boring characters, Isobel and Dunca.Two interesting characters who are poorly handled, Racter and Gaichu just sit in the basement and despite having interesting things to say their conversations are just massive exposition dumps. Gobbet was likeable but didn't really seem like she belonged on a team of violent contract criminals. The team dynamic just never came together in HK like it did in DF

>>384863131
The tone of HK was great and the plot made excellent use of the Asian setting, so I don't think that was it.

>>384874829
at least her quest was kinda fun with nearly everyone trying to wrap their head around the inanity of the Decker convention.

>>384876254
I'd say it's aged about as well as you'd expect a SNES RPG to age. I'm not keen on the grinding ir having to go thru an entire list of keywords when talking to a new NPC but those are complaints I have about most RPGs from that era.

>>384863656
>you have to tolerate Is0bel

Wait wait wait, are you saying you aren't madly in love with Is0bel? How is that possible?

>>384876483
Yeah, it was pretty freaking great. A shame she's a literal womanchild.

>>384862292
>>384862425
Holy fuck, how can you have THIS much shit taste?

>>384876390
You have to remember that playable Racter and Gaichu were originally stretch goals for the Kickstarter so they were sort of shonhorned in.

>>384876629
I still want to know if she killed that guy's cat. She denied it but Gobbet seemed to think she'd done it. That makes me dislike her even more if so. I mean she's a pretty cold in general, leaving her parents behind to die in the Walled City, having her memories of that entire life wiped but killing a cat? That's going too far.

Hong Kong's companions from best to worst:

Gaichu = Racter cause the both of them are equal amounts of badass.

Gobbit is second because she's honestly kind of endearing in that sort of street smart trickster kind of way.

Duncan is...Duncan.

Is0bel sucks donkey dick.

>>384876813
The guy's only shitty deed was making a troll bot that responded to Is0bel's shitty posts. Dude took out her memories and kept the passcode just in case she ever wanted them.

>>384874563
Then you don't.
Returns lacks a lot of simple functions.

>>384877079
I really hate the fact that you can't rez yourself in Returns.

>>384870783
I was surprised that dwarves make the best inherent mages.

>>384874829
>Psychopath actually. The difference is a sociopathy is the result of nurture while psychopathy is the result of nature but both are relatively similar.

I don't know where you heard that but it isn't true.

>>384877032
Yeah she was pretty fucking vengeful over nothing. Does anyone have any idea what happens if you actually do beat the guy up as she wanted? In Dragonfall those personal quests had 2 outcomes, each of which offered a different reward and changed the character a bit. Eiger with her new AR, Glory with her new spirit. Did they even do that in HK? Beating is0bel's former friend or sinking the raft are such objectively bad decisions that I've never actually done either. Does anything change if you make those choices? Do they get different gear as a reward?

>>384876483
Her quest pissed me off. When I found out we came all this way because of her stupid petty grudge I really wanted a dialogue option where I berate her like the fucking child she is.

>>384877145
How far am I from the real thing and where did you get the real thing from?

>>384877079
>>384877138
You know you can import the Returns campaign into Dragonfall and get those engine improvements, right?

>>384877223
Is0bel gets nothing, I think. Gobbit gets some weird trinket thing similar to her monster friend's.

Why do poetrybots go rogue in shadowrun?

>>384877484
Gobbet gets a magic marble if you kill the Rat King, she gets the same thing if they sink the raft?

>>384877545
You can kill the rat king and sink the raft, so yeah.

>>384876629
She's actually a child. Like a full on "I can't legally drink/smoke" kid who sealed away a good chunk of her life leaving less time to mature.

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>>384857361
I think you're crazy for liking Hong Kong over Dragonfall but you do your thing anon. I'm also hoping they do another Shadowrun after they get out Battletech, though I'm looking forward to Battletech too.

Thinking about their games makes me want to replay Dragonfall, actually. If I wasn't already balls deep in the BG1 expansion I would probably fire it up.

>>384877580
Wait, you can kill the Rat King and sink the raft at the same time? How does that work? I've always had to do one or the other.

>>384874561
I had a similar problem. I was dedicated to exhausting all dialogue options, because I liked the game and the characters, but I'm a slow reader. I think I have more time logged in the hub world than on missions.

>>384877626
Not OP but Dragonfall so far is the only one I've beaten but I have a feeling I'm gonna like Hong Kong more

It's probably the asian setting honestly. I'm a huge sucker for that

>>384877650
Kill the rat king, don't organize a mutiny, and Gobbet decides to blow it the fuck up since everyone else got killed offscreen.

>>384862320
>In what other game does every vendor tell your their whole life story?
that sounds bad

>>384877410
From actual psychologists at my university. I was curious about it myself. They said it's pretty much just two different names for the same things. Like how they're phasing out multiple personality disorder for dissociative identity disorder.

>>384877814
Hong Kong's definitely not bad, I just felt like the pacing in Dragonfall was a lot better. If you like the setting better though that could definitely make up for it.

>>384877626
Theyhave stated multiple times in their little Battletech preview videos that they are huge fans of the Shadowrun setting and will never stop going back to it as long as they are in business.

I'm a bigger fan of Battletech than I am of Shadowrun, but their Shadowrun games were great so I hope they get to do more. I'm nervous about the Battletech game though; combat was the weakest part of HBS' previous games but it is absolutely critical to a Battletech game since the writing and story are so much less important to BT. They need to knock the basic core gameplay mechanics out of the park.

>>384877962
Swear to fucking god, I'm pretty sure I knew that once then got confused by how everyone switches the terms around.

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>Playing as a rigger with two drones active
I don't know why I keep doing this.

>>384877846
Oh damn, that is pretty dark. Makes sense though given she wanted to sink the raft right from the beginning.

>>384878154
Is the room on fire because your setting it on fire or getting smoked by corp security?

>>384878092
I know absolutely jack shit about Battletech since even though I was gaming when Mechwarrior 1-2-3 were kicking off and being popular I somehow managed to completely avoid them in favor of games like Terra Nova. Main reason I'm interested in and Kickstarted their Battletech game is because leading a mercenary group and managing pilots and robutts with turn based combat reminds me of the Missionforce Cyberstorm games which I DID play the absolute fuck out of. Also Mech Commander, but I prefer turn based.

Anyway, they put some gameplay video out relatively recently on the off chance you haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6FatHHnzI

>>384878206
I kinda felt guilty but I had already spent half an hour in the glitched out version of the deck and didn't want to go through the entire thing again.

>>384878154
Why wouldn't you have 2 drones active as a rigger? If you only have 2AP you should still be fine as the drones are your weapons and if you have 3AP you have time to move or take a shot at someone with another weapon as well.

>>384866220
Same. I ended up enjoying Dragonfall but I like my cyberpunk without more typical fantasy stuff. I prefer when cyberpunk is more an outlook into what the future holds, not completely fantasy.

>>384857361
how the fuck you heal in this game
the reason I dropped twice, medkits were expensive as fuck early game

>>384878474
You have to take Gobbit with you in missions and either use her heal spell or your companions' medkits.

>>384877962
I have standing orders from a Psych professor to grab people by the shirt and yell in their face, "SCHIZOPHRENIA IS NOT THE SAME THING AS MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER" if that's what it takes to correct them.

>>384878474
Magical healing with the Heal Wound spell is the cheapest way to heal given Gobbet has it from the start. Also companion items respawn after each run so you can use their medkits without spending any nuyen to replace them

>>384878474
Take Gobbet with you.
On every mission.
Always.
Have her spam heal, aim, and haste.
This is basically a requirement with how these games are designed.

>>384878616
Yeah, it's totally not. Good on them.

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>It's an "every enemy in the room gets a free turn and unloads into your main characters face because you're the only one who can open doors outside of combat" episode

>>384873445

They're on sale over at GoG right now

>>384860793
>play the game for me

>>384866183
Except the end of the first game has him coming to terms with his status and finally enjoying himself. He does a complete 180 without ANY resistence.

>>384871725
This, FUCK having people have a background! MAGA DEUS VULT RUSSIA DID NOTIN WRONG HURR DURR

>>384874263
They are. If a game does not have character generation and advancement, it's not a RPG. If a game does not give you meaningful consequences for the decisions you make during character advancement and generation, it's not a RPG. All of the GOAT RPGs like Fallout 1,2,NV, Arcanum, Bloodlines and PST follow this principle to the letter.

>>384879809
That was when getting his SIN and a normal life back wasn't possible, as far as he knew. Once it was possible again, why wouldn't he pursue it?

Orcs shouldn't be this attractive.

>>384880608
stop trying to sell us your mom.

Remember that elves are your allies, always trust an elf.

Huh? So /V/ suddenly likes shadowrun? Previous threads were constantly shitting on it game and now after steam sale everyone seems to like it.

How unexpected.

>>384881217
I only trust an elf when I have them bent over something with my cock in their ass.

>>384881217
That one elf in either Dragonfall or Returns was gonna kill me even if I listened to them and killed the gangsters in the street for his amulet

>>384881357
People actually played it this time.

>>384881357
The shills won
Also it integrates that CYOA conversations that I like in an RPG

>>384862924
>What are some good community-made stories for this?

How easy and hard is it to make community mods for Shadowrun?

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>>384861802

>Lord
>Egyptian/Portuguese

>>384881693
god I fucking hate watching youtube streams cause any stream with more than 500 viewers is fucking cancer. I though Twitch chat was bad but jesus christ youtube chat is unbearable

>>384881763
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIEEET

>>384881763

I know, right? Everytime I see this I'm like: Ugh, can we please chill with the racim and sexism and Islamophobia for a second? *sigh*

>>384881968
>>>/tumblr/

i really enjoyed dragonfall. anymore games like it? doesnt have to be isometric, just that vibe. Deus Ex?

>>384882194
You might want to take a look at Invisible, Inc. It's more stealth based tactics but it feels a bit cyberpunkish.

>>384857361
Harefriends should really make a new shadowrun.

>finally started playing Dragonfall
>really enjoying it
>get to that mission involving stealing the MKVI from the Knights Errant
>now stuck because toward the end of the mission, you fight a stupid fucking wave of enemies and I cannot 4x12(+?) at the very end of it without someone dying
This is really stupid.

>>384884104
Oh also, what exactly IS a dragon in-game? From the bits mentioned within the story so far, it seems like a dragon is a literal dragon but can turn between dragon and humanoid form?

>>384884225
Yes.

>>384884225
exactly
Dragons are also extremely wealthy, powerful, intelligent and dangerous

>>384866220
I thought the same, but ended up loving the setting. In addition I'm not a fan of turn based games, but for me, everything else made up for the combat.

>>384873037
Next stop: Returns/DMS, some say it's the weakest of the three but I thought it was good except for being the one most obviously designed for tablets, the campaign itself is good though and it's best to play it before HK.

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>>384861802
Those ancestries...

I actually thought it would have been cooler if Monica in fact did live on in the matrix when Apex revealed herself but ohwell.

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>>384867226
honestly, a good shadowrun MMO would be sick, everything is there for it to be interesting, but
>MMO's
>good

>half of all characters are strong womyn
disgusting. I want a game about strong, muscular MEN

>>384884992
get used to it, with cyberware and magic, women are the same as men :^)

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What's a fun class to go with for a troll in HK?

I was thinking of just going physical adept, would probably fit in just peachy, considering the setting. Not sure if I'd want to go melee weapons or full on FISTS

Otherwise shaman could maybe be alright, I guess I just don't really care for the combat in Shadowrun vidya.

I really should go back and try and beat returns, I think I was to the part when you return from a graveyard, the plot was getting a little weird for me at the time, I think.

>>384886001
I can deal with one or so exceptions but it just pisses me off when they shove half the cast in your face as aggressive "tough" whores. It's insulting. Am I supposed to be impressed? Intimidated?

>>384857361
>despite its piss-poor combat and gameplay in general
Gameplay is quite okay, and combat in particular. I really don't see the issue with it.

>>384862292
>Is0bel and the rat-bitch are fucking physically revolting
Is0bel a cute. No bully allowed.

>>384857361
Is shadowrun any good?
How good is it in relation to Underrail?

>>384886458
Shadowrun is leaps and bounds better than Underrail, especially Dragonfall.

>>384886589
Thanks anon.
But where do I start? Which one?

>>384884225
Dragons should be killed with extreme prejudice. That is all you need to know. Same goes for rogue AIs.

>>384862782
I loved that part though, It felt great to have worked everything out just because I enjoyed the world building and narrative enough to listen to kindly

>>384886142
Adepts require high INT, so not good for a troll.

You could go Street Samurai and load up on cyber.

>>384886458
In my opinion combat in Underrail feels better, and more varied (in particular if you bring in stealth mechanics), albeit I'd argue that the X-Com cover mechanics in Shadowrun are a nice addition and the fact that the latter gives you a party to control which always adds tactical depth. The character system and crafting in particular is also way more elaborate in Underrail. Shadowrun has a more intricate narrative though, more dialogue with NPCs, etc.

I would recommend playing both. Underrail as well as the Shadowrun games (maybe the first one not so much, but Dragonfall and Hong Kong definitely), are good RPGs.

>>384886691
He said Dragonfall, you can ignore him and his "forced story down your fucking throat" game. And start at the beginning and play all 3 dipshit.

>>384886830
>Adepts require high INT
Why do adepts need INT? Aren't adept spells based on WIS?

>>384886691
not him, but if you really want to start at he 'beginning' gameplay-wise, you should start with returns, dragonfall, hong kong, but the plot isn't connected aside from some not very important references and maybe one character, so they can be enjoyed in any order, it'll be a bitch going back to returns after playing hong kong or dragonfall tho
but you can make the returns story work in dragonfall, look it up if you're interested there are guides for it

>>384886918
You're right. I confused intelligence with willpower.

Charisma for conjuring, intelligence for decking and willpower for spell casting / qi casting.

>>384886841
>>384886910
>>384887004
Thanks anons

>>384866303
I almost freaked during the super bowl when I saw that commercial and thought it was an SR movie

>>384887219
If you got a lot of frustration tolerance I'd also highly recommend taking a look at Age of Decadence (they even got a demo out). In terms of plot choice and branching narrative it beats the vast majority of RPGs out there. However, the combat can be frustrating when you don't yet know what you're doing.

>>384876483
Her quest is good if you manage to get through without killing anyone. The second someone dies it goes from a fun romp to a tragedy caused by a shitty selfish dwarf

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>>384863116
Look at this smug motherfucker. How can you not choose him?

>>384884104
The mission where the package is the cyborg troll? Just use him as frontline and them down

>>384866220
Magic comes in cycles and has always existed in the world, with a cycle of high magic followed by a period of near nothing. Our world is known as the fifth world. It started in 3113BC when the Island of Thera sank into the ocean and ended in 2011 when magic returned in an event known as the awakening.

Theres a lot more to it, read the sixth world almanac if you want the entire history as well as an overview of the political and economic status of the sixth world circa 2072.

Is anyone else shocked by the upcoming Will Smith Shadowrun movie?

Who even is the audience for that?

>>384888331
I'll look into it soon, but answer me one quick question if you will. Can human parents have both a human and elf child?

>>384888475
>Will Smith Shadowrun movie
Wait what?

Even better https://youtu.be/C-SsMQMFq8c

>>384869641
What is she supposed to be?
Decker?
Or do Hermetics with their mathematical bullshit run around with tats like that?

>>384888117
Yeah I just did it though. Set up my doods better and here I am. Wew

>>384888579
Not the same anon but there is a movie being released at the end of the year called Bright. It seems to be heavily influenced by Shadowrun based on the whole orc, elf, magic and city thing.

>>384888579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZCBSsBxko

It's netflix film. I'm not sure it is even licensed shadowrun, but it's definitely shadowrun.

>>384888508
They could during the early days of the awakening before the races stabilized. The way it worked was that certain humans had recessive genes that would, when mana hit a certain saturation point, awaken and mutate the human child into whatever race they were meant to be.

It did this to everyone, so random humans would turn into Trolls and Elves and everything else. It was a very chaotic time, but it eventually died down.

So I recruted the Zombie Samurai but kinda lost the will to play after this.
I loved Dragonfall, should I countinue?

>>384873687
Well for Germany they had like a shitton of material to work with since Germany has a bunch if exclusive source material. Shadowrun is fucking big there.

>>384888802
I played through Returns and Dragonfall in a few days, and got somewhat burned out and I noticed that I skip a lot of convos in HK, so I decided to play/do something else for a while and get back to it when I can fully focus on it. I suggest you the same, the plot and characters seem interesting enough for me atleast to play it.

>>384873687
Hong Kong is independent of whats left of China in shadowrun.

>>384888117
>ask for my companions' opinions on what we should do with the troll
>Dietrich: This is unethical and against the mission, bro
>Eiger: This is unethical and against the mission parameters, muh runner professionalism
>Glory: This is unethical and against the mission but I don't actually care.
>Blitz: YOOOOOOOOOO WTF IS THIS SHIT HOLY FUCK I WANT TO RIDE THE TROLL TANK
>BOSS LET ME PILOT THIS MOTHERFUCKER I WILL PLOW THROUGH FUCKING WALLS
>HOLY SHIT I WILL SUCK YOUR FUCKING DICK BOSS IF YOU LET ME SEND THIS COCKSUCKER CHARGING IN
>I WILL TEAR THEM IN FUCKING HALF BRO HOLY SHIT THIS MACHINE GUN ARM IS INSANE I'LL BE KILLING PEOPLE 2 SKYSCRAPERS OVER

Blitz was underappreciated. His personal mission was also the most chill and amusing, particularly when I didn't trust him and he didn't have a fucking emotional breakdown, just held on until he could have his "told you so" moment.

>>384889518
I didn't really like Blitz until his mission and didn't take him on many cause I rolled a decker, but holy shit the banter between him, the 'accountant' dude and player char was fun as fuck

Dragonfall is better but HK is a good game.

>>384889518
>>384889695
Blitz was a fun character but the worst decker.

>>384890084
honestly, I found all of Dragonfall's characters likeable in the end

>>384888721
How is this Shadowrun? Where is the cyberpunk?

>>384886142
Melee street sam

Load up on cyber, Protip. Your starting claws are better than your spurs.

You become an absolute monster of rip and tear. You get so durable the NPC's calculate your troll standing in the open oneshotting mooks is harder to kill than people behind full cover. You rip and tear multiple mooks in one turn. You honestly shit so much damage that i beat the final boss in a single turn with just the protag and racter

>>384857361
What's with the godawful optimization of these games?

>>384857361
waaaay to much sjw crap in it for me to enjoy it
also according to some of the devs twitter post they don´t like it when people like me play their game anyway

Best class for HK?

>>384891512

It's like 2020ish.
The awakening in SR started in 2012 with the appearence with dragons.
If they confirm the existence of both dragons, and metas appearing out of nowhere/overwriting humans to explain the 30 year old partner, this could easily be a Shadowrun prequel.

Remember, SR runs in the books are either 205X or 207X depending on how cyber you want your punk. Way before even the matrix crash of '34(?), somewhere around 2020, would have similar levels of tech to today and explain this movie.
Possible you could move the awakening to a later date but then >30 year old orc partner.

This is all assuming this on paper, visually the orks look like Uruk from LOTR so either a huge set of coincidences or they're trying to avoid the brand intentionally.

>>384861802
>wow so diverse
>not a single evil privlaged white men
>only "strong wyman" and black guys for us
so they also now pander to sjws
sad

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>no romance
I know its not the focus but
>tfw I'll never climb the eiger

>>384892279
Also looks like they've only just discovered magic.

Some of the shots in the movie look almost cyberpunk. Certainly looks like the inner cities are heading in that direction.

>>384884320
>dangerous
AHAHAHAHAAHA. They can be taken down by any megacorp in their dragon form. Despite the nonsense Dragonfall fed its players, dragons are not immune to conventional missiles or guns and even a bunch of helicopters with missiles can take them out. Dragons are dangerous because they're smart and live basically forever, not because of their combat capabilities which are impressive on their own, but insignificant in the face of a battleforce a megacorp can field.

>>384893776

>Dual astral/physical form
you wot m8
Remember they literally only exist with magic.

>>384893776
Aren't the megacorps basically run by dragons?

I thought the danger came from the fact that they have their hands in everything. They are like hyper intelligent illuminati.

Not sure if English is your first language or not, but dangerous doesn't mean strong or powerful.

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>>384863116
This one.

>>384893939

Don't forget
>40 STR/BOD

There's only ever been one (pen and paper canon) recorded confirmed kill of a dragon, and it was a presidential assassination.

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>>384861802
>egyptian/portuguese

>>384894026
>There's only ever been one (pen and paper canon) recorded confirmed kill of a dragon
Nope. Eliohann flatlined during the matrix crash, that counts as a kill too.

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>>384893939
Only one megacorp is out and out run by a dragon, and he's also the biggest, baddest one of the lot. The others are all the 'shadowy investors and political puppetmaster' types. Though there is one eco terrorist.

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>>384863116
Dwarf qt right here

>>384894026
>>384894285
Aztlan also would have taken down Sirrurg if not for the others interfering. But that operation cost them an assload in military forces.

Dragons are fucking tough.

The band ending in dragonfall is great. I genuinely sympathised with the antagonists. Dragons are fucked and need to be removed.

So it was a fun kick in the dick when you see what happens to the world once you remove dragons.

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>>384894374

>Dragonfall asks you if dragons should be allowed to live
>By default believe everyone should have some sort of sword of damocles keeping them honest and making the most of their lives, even immortality has the threat of irrelevance hanging over you let alone the personal stress it can bring
>But after that last fight dragging on over an hour because of running around a tunnel and constant philosophising, I have like two brain cells left to rub for Lofwyr's goon in the epilogue.
>Accidentally, drunkenly and extremely tiredly sign on to work for Lofwyr

Whoops
I mean, dragons are cool anyway, it's just uncertain.

>>384893776
Didn't want tank a fucking orbital laser?

>>384894697
>he actually made a deal with a dragon
You're dead and you dont even know it son.

>>384892292
Abloo bloo bloo, upboated for tru blog

>>>/pol/