Sonic Mania Thread: "Leaker Anon was Right" Edition

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>>384856234
Who the fuck cares about this pasta anymore, I can't wait 3 fucking weeks for this thing. I need it in my life.

>>384856234
Finally a great sonic game in the last 15 years

Sakura Synagogue is a shit name.

Waiting for people to complain about "knowing too much" about Mania when it comes out.

Leakers are the lowest scum.

>>384856234
I refuse to believe they called it Sakura Synagogue, I might've believed the leak if it wasn't for that.

>>384856440
have fun with your romhack classicfag!

leakers ruin everything

>Implying leakerfag just didn't get a manual early and made up a bunch of shit knowing the panel would make him look credible.

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>that widescreen S3&K in the background
>leaker in last thread mentioned the S3&K remake coming with mania
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING

>>384856641
We will.

Enjoy your subpar "3D" sonic game, kappa

>people actually believe that leak

the end of times, you're in for some fucking disappointment

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WHO /LIMITEDEDITIONVINYL/ HERE

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>>384856641
Have fun with your 0 games adventuretard!

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>>384856410
The only similarity I see is the flowers that spring up when you kill Badniks are pink, and a few red flowers. But that's a huge fucking stretch. Either explain yourself or fuck off.

>>384856672
Plausible, but I want that 3&K remaster so I'm going to believe.

Then why didn't leaker-kun tell us what Studiopolis Act 2 and Mirage Saloon Act 1 are if they went into detail about other new levels' Acts?

>>384856657
San Diego Comiccon; Had a floor demo.

Don't be a shitter.

>>384856234
Freedom Planet is still the only good classic Sonic style gameplay we've seen in 10 years, an official romhack won't change that.

I'm just waiting on FP2, which is pretty far into development and fixed the awful voice acting and engine limitations.

>People taking a "leak" this fucking seriously because he mentioned a Japanese garden level when we all knew that a Japanese garden level was happening because a Hard Boiled Heavy was ninja themed ages ago.

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>>384856641
>>384856767
I'm going to enjoy both fucking faggots.

>Game consist of reused levels
>Not an anniversary game
>One level is a mixture of tons of reused levels
>Not Autistic in the slightest to Retrofags
>Because their the one ones hyped for this mediocrity

The Force Awakens of the Sonic Series everybody!

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>>384856234
>>384856709
>Direct sequel to S3&K
>S3&K: Taxman Edition potentially coming with Sonic Mania
>Snowy Cherry Blossom stage
>Animated opening like CD

STOP

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

>>384856937
This.

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Just now getting here. What's this leak I'm hearing about?

>>384856914
this

we will have to hear this shit for 3 weeks and feel all your crushing disappointment when none of it happens, god damn it

that leaker is laughing his ass off atm

>>384856886
Freedom Planet is a good game, but more it's own thing inspired by Sonic, Gunstar Heroes, and Rocket Knight, i'm excited for Freedom Planet 2, but it can't touch Mania in my mind. Everything we've seen on Mania makes it look like the potential best Sonic game.

>>384856937
>Buying more than one game a year.

>>384856914
It also correctly described the special stage

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id like to believe that the new stage is stardust speedway act 2 and happens inside the castle in the good future but these sakura trees, man.

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>>384856914
>ninja=japanese garden

>>384856914
He also predicted the special stage being a race course.

He also predicted the Japanese garden being connected to the cathedral.

4fag dropping by before bed, anything besides the special stage and booklet?

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>>384856914
But he also mentioned the special stage being a race with elements taken from the older special stage which is the case with you racing the UFO collecting spheres with a Sonic 1-esque fish in the background.

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>>384857016
this

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>>384857016
Take it with a grain of salt, but they did nail the special stage.

>>384856234
Would've preferred special stages to play like Xtreme. Using the CD style again is a mistake because the CD special stages are terrible.

>>384856882
Believe it or not, the anticipation and surprise of discovering things for the first time as you play a game on its release is a great part of the experience, and the immense amount of 'leakers' in recent years who have had to datamine everything or reveal a bunch of information prior to release really take the enjoyment out of the discovery. You don't have to be a kid to want a fresh, blind experience.

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>>384857034
>being poor

>>384857016
Read this:
>>384847527

>>384857079
are you talking about the sonic drift thing? I made that up

>>384857083
Mania takes place immediately after 3&K.

>>384857142
It's not really the CD special stage again though, it's a timed race to get a single UFO down a linear line of obstacles while trying to get blue spheres to speed up and rings to extend time.

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Well since I didn't read the leak outside of Hydrocity Zone which is all I cared about it's time to ignore & filter all of these threads so I accidentally don't read the rest of them.

>>384856886
https://youtu.be/miSErWIVBlU
Freedom Planet is horrible, anon. Sonic 4 tier physics and even worse level design. It looks and sounds nice but otherwise it's shit. Maybe 2 will be better, but I'm not hopeful.

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Can YOU beat the shitty times I will be posting throughout the evening?

>>384856857
The leak is fake.

>>384857115
Idea here, in that white space put the pic of the sakura level from the manual

>>384857267
The leak isn't real. How could the game leak?

>>384857252
Oh, that sounds pretty good. I read it was a mix of the old special stages and thought that meant the game rotated between stages from each game.

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>>384856234
>3 more weeks
I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG

>>384857115
>bonus stages are old special stages
Fuck that shit, I want my gumball and glowing balls machine levels.

>>384857320
maybe if you post a less horrible stage
seriously fuck act act 1's boss and fuck act 2 in general

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Posting for prosperity

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>>384856886
>implying you can't like both
fuck off, Freedom Planet is great and Mania looks fantastic

>>384857440
God this is gonna be a terrible 3 weeks

>>384857115
>didn't leak shit but I made the screenshot
neat

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>>384857416
None of us can

>>384857382
Apparently it was one of the people responsible for porting the game to Switch.

I don't believe that someone on that team would be that scummy, but you never know these days really.

>>384857320
With or without Emeralds?

>>384857552
Without emeralds, Sonic and Tails only right now

>>384857440
>18 stages
Didn't they say it was about the same length as Sonic 3 and Knuckles?

>>384857540
He had no proof he was.

>>384857438
Pleb. Act 1 boss is easy as fuck and one of the more creative ones in the game. Act 2 is great and only shitty players come close to running out of time.

So instead of coming up with original level ideas, they decided to take parts from old sonic games in pieces and mix them up?

i enjoy all kinds of sonic games, 2D or 3D. but i think that sounds like a incredibly stupid idea, the people have showned they could create new levels, and i don't think the game is going to be bad. it's just that this news hits me like a big wtf to the devs. when they could make unique original stages like studiopolis.

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Story for those who didn't read it.

>>384857591
They said it was comparable, so i'm expecting it to be either 1-2 zones longer or shorter.

>>384857636
it's creative and also boring as fuck

>>384857667
I'm so happy that Mania is actually a direct 3&K sequel.

>>384857304
Freedom Planet was fun af though. The physics are nothing like Sonic's but that's fine because it's not Sonic. Level design needed some work but I enjoyed it overall.

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>>384857065
No, the leaked cathedral and the sakura area are definitely the same place.
Look at the identical floor and identical red plants.

any music leaks?

PLEASE STOP, I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE HYPE

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>Unironically believing the leak that has a zone called "Satan's Flower Church"
You are all being Knuckles.

>>384857440
was just spending 15 minutes trying to type a summary and fit it into one post but you posted this, thank you anon.

There is a Manuel? Does it come with the collectors edition or something?

>>384857639
It was a compromise, I think part safety net, and part from their original idea to just port the mobile Sonic 1 and 2 with some new zones packed in before it blew up from there.

After seeing the Act 2's of Green Hill and Chemical Plant, on top of the Act 1 map for Green Hill, I have no qualms with the remixed stages if i'm being honest...except just being tired of Green Hill in general.

>>384857769
https://twitter.com/StevenThePage/status/888959945055420416

>>384857769
They showed off what sounded like the special stage theme at the panel.

>>384857639
Sega has been banking on nostalgia hard with Sonic since at least Black Knight. I don't mind old zones mixed with new zones because it's clear the old stages are being expanded by a lot (though I'm not a fan of using Chemical Plant and Sky Sanctuary again) so they'll feel plenty fresh.

>>384857756
>the floor
this is enough for it to be true

>>384856234
>Sakura Synagogue

This is the greatest idiot test ever designed. We all know which of us are complete retards now.

>>384857769
Not really. They showed a small segment of the special stage music, but nothing high-quality yet.

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>>384857159
But could those leaked heavies realistically match the silhouettes in pic related?

>>384857639
This entire thing was going to be just the Sonic 1 + 2 Taxman ports released on console with a few new levels for the heck of it, and then Izuka (main sonic guy at SEGA), and I quote,
>saw a demo and took a white board and wrote Sonic 123 and cd and said "Sonic Mania" " first moment of what would become mania"

>>384857145
HAHAHAHAHAHA

OH MY GOD

LMAO

WTF

THIS DUDE

THIS DUDE IS SO AUTISTIC HE ACTUALLY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SPOILERS

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Who in here preorder this?

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>>384856234
GOD DAMN THIS SPECIAL STAGE LOOKS FUCKING SICK

>>384857862
sounds noice

>>384857115
>>384857128
I honestly think this is a mix of leaker having the artbook (As it clearly shows a coastal area and Sakura area) and bullshitting going off the obvious as fuck silhouettes of the heavies (Besides capey whose probably their boss).

Why the fuck would a beach be magic? And none of the levels he described line up with that mysterious Sky Level icon, not even Sky Sanctuary.

>>384856798
You shouldn't have left the thread:
>>384856879
>>384856898

If it's right it means the "leaker" from last thread is 100% full of shit.

>>384857885
It's more a weeb test, since only the people who can read moonrunes understand it's fake.

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FUCKING.
WHEN?

>>384857960
I did, though it wasn't cheap for international shipping, still, that lossless soundtrack...

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The leak is fake. The cathedral level is Stardust Speedway Act 2.

You're all gullible, but more importantly, the guy sucks at faking shit. Taxman S3K FOR FREE WITH THE GAME is too good to be true.

>>384857667
Leak doesn't mention anything about the 'energy source': it's fake.

>>384857927
tru :(

>>384857960
No money in time for the limited one, but if it's still around for order next month, then I'll get it.

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>>384858026
never

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>>384856882
>>384857927
>Reddit Spacing

>>384857065
Evidence the leaked stage is the sakura zone from the manual:
>Green floor with off-white tiles on top
>Red flowers
>What appears to be either sakura or snow falling outside the windows
Evidence the leaked stage is Stardust Speedway
>The windows in that one part of the stage look kind of similar

Evidence against the leaked stage being the sakura zone:
>

Evidence against the leaked stage being Stardust Speedway
>Takes place during the day day, so no stars in "Stardust" Speedway
>Cathedral from Stardust Speedway is completely purple, no purple in leaked zone
>Cathedral is in the good future, we've only seen the past version in Mania

Yeah I think this is an easy call

If the Top Hat Robot does magic stuff, it better be technology related magic stuff. Like it shrinking Sonic? A shrink ray or something.
How would Eggman create a robot with magical powers?

>>384857885
Could be just a throwback to outlandish names of content that never made it such as Genocide City.
If Genocide City was a serious possibility, why not this?

>>384857913
Shuriken: Heavy Shinobi
Top Hat: Heavy Trickster
Ball & Chain: Heavy Knight
One that looks like middle finger: Heavy Wrangler. that looks like a cowboy's gun and you can see a cap near the bottom of him, which is what a cowboy would wear
One with alarm and gun: studiopolis' Heavy Gunner, confirmed

>>384858042
I know right.
I've had experience with datadiscs before on the Streets of Rage 2 album. Really solid production and nice artwork on the sleeves.

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>sakura synagogue

you all belong to me now, goyim

>>384857913
From left to right:
>Ninja heavy
>Magic Heavy
>Cowboy Heavy
>Knight Heavy
>Bazooka Heavy

>>384857967
Is that a 3D Sonic model? Looks like Sonic R or Saturn Blast.

>>384857110
But he also said the bonus stages (not the stages for emeralds, the ones at checkpoints) were gonna be all the previous special stages, including Blue Spheres and Sonic 1's acid trip, but elements from both of those are already in the special stages

>>384858147
*cape, not cap

>>384857667
Has someone uploaded a clear image of the character descriptions?

I want to specifically see Knuckles' and see if they gave him a reason for leaving Angel Island and the Master Emerald.

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Post yfw a bunch of Sonic ROM hackers are gonna end up making a more critically well received and better selling Sonic game than Sonic Team's game

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if you don't want spoilers you shouldn't go on these threads that being said sakura synagogue is the dumbest fake zone name I've ever heard. Get your juden outta my Sonic

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Seriously where is this manual coming from?

>>384858213
looks like it's based off jam desu

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>>384858213
Indeed.

>will have CD style intro, most likely by Tyson Hesse, and sprite transition cutscenes like S3&K.

That's just...why did it take so long for this. It's incredible on paper but seems like such an obvious thing. I know that's true of Mania in general but...goddamn.

>>384857824
>Satan's Flower Church
What leak are you reading?

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>>384858058
>Takes place during the day
>Ninja HBH fits a Jap level
>Stardust Speedway never had snow nor did it have cherry blossoms

I don't but the leak, but the Sakura Level isn't Stardust Speedway, the levels are far too different to be an act 2.

>>384858341
they gave it out to the people at the panel

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>>384858314

>>384858314
>Mania proves to be a greater sucess than forces
>SoJ just out of spite cans the entire mania team

i really hope not. japs can be prideful fucks sometimes.

>>384858137
>If Genocide City was a serious possibility, why not this?

Because its 1000x more retarded?

???

>>384858213
Yeah, the UFO also seems to be polygonal.

Any chance we're going to get dual US and JP soundtracks for Stardust Speedway?

>>384858381 , and anyone wanting to see the leak, see >>384857440

>>384858341
the Comic-con panel the Mania team's holding gave them out.

>>384858381
Somebody said that's what it translates from Japanese

>>384858058
You're clearly grasping at straws to try to disprove the leak.
See >>384858098

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>the best sonic game ever made is just a few weeks away
holy shit this is wild

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>>384858314
It's fucking incredible

so who pre-ordered here?
>on all 4 platforms, Switch being the special edition
>even gifted it to a few anons

>>384858469
No way man, they're all in America and Iizuka, while incompetent, has never struck me as a sadistic or backstabbing fuck, I genuinely think he has the fans best interests at heart, he's just dumb.

>>384858493
I think they're setting it fully in the past so they don't have to pick a side.

>>384858493
Well, if they stay in the past it's not a problem 'cause both soundtracks use the same songs for the past versions of the levels.

>>384858512
the joke is synagogue is a jew thing and jews are the devil so I called it satan church once and people latched on

>>384857983
>And none of the levels he described line up with that mysterious Sky Level icon, not even Sky Sanctuary.

Where?

>game potentially gets spoiled before its release in the modern age of the internet
Wow I'm so shocked and surprised. This can't be happening.

Seriously though, the only way to avoid spoilers in this day and age is just to go cold turkey from any sites that will even be talking about said thing. It's not even that far away from release, you can't hide Sonic threads on /v/ for one month?

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Look at this embarrassing time

>>384858550
It's surreal as fuck considering the past 15-20 years. Not to shit on all that came in that time blindly but...fuck man. This is a real goddamn Sonic game.

>>384858314
yfw Iizuka and Sonic team get butthurt and sabotage plans for Mania 2

>>384858137
Because Genocide City was just silly nips with a poor grasp on english wanting to make a cool sounding name.
Not that it isn't a possibility, I just don't want Jews in muh Sonic.
Waitaminute..
Sakura Synagogue, Genocide City. Hmm... What if we combine these?

>>384858620
>even gifted it to a few anons

are you still feeling generous?

>>384857960
I ordered the limited edition vinyl

>>384858620
Pre-orderd practically day one, but only for PC because I don't own nor feel the need for a current gen console.

>>384858636
>Making a joke just to confuse dumb amerifats like me
God damn it anon. Well, I guess I'm buying the leak now because that was the only thing that made me think it wasn't real.

>>384857960
What's the story on the quality between the colored vinyl vs black?

>>384857440
Wait, if the leak goes into detail about stage hazards and enemies, why doesn't it mention anything related to icecubes for Sakura Synagogue, seeing as how there's one in the manual art

>>384858683
nothing wrong with it. sandopolis is a tedious stage desu.

>>384858743
I've got some codes i'm gonna give away on launch day, but not before.

>>384858752
I thought the limited Edition looked dumb. If the base color was yellow or blue instead of white it would have been better I think

>>384858726
kek

>>384858512
>>384858636
Sounds like some retard confused shitposting for translation from Japanese and honestly believed that "Sakura" translates to "Satan's Flower"
I thought Sakura was a pretty common knowledge word but I guess not.

>>384857440
>Illusion Shore

Just seems too stupid to be true. Not only does it have a similar name to Mirage Saloon Green Hill already has the beach thing down, it's even confirmed in that concept art that Green Hill is coastal.

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>>384858098
There's also a past version of that building that reverses the problems, here the windows don't fit but the foundations are green and the whole building uses green and red as its main colors (on top of literally being the most cathedral-looking).

I'd personally say it's Stardust because those windows and architecture in a supposed japanese-themed level where you're supposed to fight a ninja clashes insanely hard but it's hard to be absolutely sure especially when the floor here >>384857756 would imply that it's the sakura level.

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>>384858314

>>384858784
What about the fact that the Japanese themed level is for some reason a Jewish place of worship, does that not strike you as odd?

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>>384858794
Black tends to be better usually but you're getting a lossless version anyway so it doesn't really matter

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>>384858726
>Because Genocide City was just silly nips with a poor grasp on english wanting to make a cool sounding name.
But dude, the people making this game are huge Sonic nerds that seem to really love including obscure and canceled classic-era content in Mania.
It doesn't matter that they speak English.

>Waitaminute..
>Sakura Synagogue, Genocide City. Hmm... What if we combine these?
See: image

>>384858726
>Sakura Synagogue, Genocide City. Hmm... What if we combine these?
Wait, no, just like transpose words
>Genocide Synagogue
Obvious euphemism for concentration camp
>Sakura City
Clear reference to Japan
Sonic Team sympathetic to the Axis confirmed

>>384858917
Good point.

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>>384858314

>>384858879
Maybe Sakura Ninja Zone is just the next level. Like you beat Stardust, run off to the cathedral in the background, and bam.

So wait

Is the energy source the fucking elevator?

>>384858979
well they are Japanese

>>384857115
>>384857128
>5 HBH
There's six, aren't there?

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>>384857083
Confirms this.

>>384858901
I suppose so. Though they could have just used it to sound cool. Level names don't have to be completely 1:1. Aquarium Park doesn't have any reference to its Japanese design in it's name. Either way, it's still more plausible than it being Stardust Speedway Act 2

>>384859205
HMMMMMMMMMMM

>>384859253
Mace Heavy
Cop Heavy
Ninja Heavy
Magician Heavy
Cape Heavy

Cape takes up more than space than it lets on

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>>384859253
Nope.

>>384859108
That sounds more likely that it being SS Act 2. Stardust Speedway doesn't have the red trees, and wouldn't have daylight

>>384857983
but what if it wasnt a sky level, and it was the moon level they said

>>384858314
>more critically well received
Guaranteed.

>better selling
Highly doubtful. This game has 0 advertising. I wouldn't even know about it if it wasn't for /v/.

>>384858314
no bad mania will sell 5 copies.

>>384859387
Where did that yellow gear pic come from?

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>Sonic was never good

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>>384857983
>Why the fuck would a beach be magic?
Why the fuck would Cave be Mystic?

>>384859394
>Stardust Speedway can't ever be day

What are you the possible police?

>>384859573
The panel they did before this one

>>384857115
>amy is hard mode
I'm okay with this

>>384858469
japanese devs are better than lame western studios. example ; platinum games.

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>>384857115
>>384857128

You don't have to believe me, but I can confirm that this guy is talking out of his ass and none of this is true

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>>384859606
>STARdust Speedway
>No stars in the sky

>>384858726
I'd expect them to remix The Machine level from Spinball to do a reference to Genocide City since it's supposed to use assets that were made for it more than create another level with a balls to the walls retarded name.

>>384859594
There's nothing really Mystic about MCZ. The Sonic Jam commentary says it was supposed to be a spooky zone but they toned it down to generic mine stage.

>>384859573
>>384859638
SXSW in March.

>>384859662
I was playing her in Sonic advance today and she feel like easy mode there but unique to the rest of the cast

Wouldn't mind it if she was like that

>>384859829
Change it to Sakura and it's fixed.

>>384859829
Now we need one with
"/v/ discussing Sakura Synagogue"

>>384858147
>>384858164
It's way too ambiguous on if the shadow directly behind Gunner is a sixth HBH or not

>>384859858
Yeah, she freaking destroys bosses.

>>384859858
>>384859916
Everyone can cheese the bosses in Sonic Advance except Sonic.

>>384859916
The only one I'd argue she has problems with is the like the 2nd to final zone where eggman slides along and you have to get him to flipover

>>384856672
>Manual
>for a digital only game

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>>384859589
>this is the average gaming prowess of a classic sonic hater
gets me every time

>>384859720
It's because they became DUST and Sonic goes to the cathedral to pray for them.

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>>384859387
The Heavy on the very left is actually the Sakura Synagogue one. the Magician one is Illusion Shore. you got Studiopolis and Mirage Saloon correct. the ball and chain one is Howling Fortress zone, he is the Heavy Knight.

The screenshot on the left everyone is saying is a sky level is actually from Mega Egg.

Stardust Speedway does indeed have a cathedral in it's background, as Stardust Speedway is the zone that follows Sakura Synagogue.

Ice Cap leads right into Sakura Synagogue which is why there is ice in it.

>>384860037
There's a picture of it in the OP, it's not an actual game manual...

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>Comic-Con Story Synopsis: Sonic and co., Eggman, and the Hoovies are all closing in on a new power source
>Jap Site: The Heavies become something Eggman could've never predicted
>Leak: lol sonic kills the heavies before the finale and everyone goes to the moon

Great, now loads of people are gonna get ridiculous expetations that won't be met and will be disappointed when the game isn't 18 fucking zones long with a Taxman edition of Sonic 3 & Knuckles thrown in for free.

>>384860207
what a great post

>>384860289
Not many anons are buying the leak, so I wouldn't worry about it. Though someone is posting about Sakura Synagogue on Sonic Retro.

>>384860289
this. please don't get your hopes up, people.

>>384860207
>Implying The Heavies don't just get powered up Super Mecha Sonic style from the power source

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This is what /v/ actually believes

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>>384860194
>Ice Cap leads right into Sakura Synagogue which is why there is ice in it.
Seems legit.

that anon leaker must me laughing his fucking ass off at you fucks

I cannot believe people are not only believing that leak, BUT DEFENDING IT

the great fucking asspull of our time, you lot are going to be so disappointed when this comes out, good god

>>384860289
I bailed when the post mentioned Amy.

>>384860458
Still more plausible than Daylight Castleway.

>>384860458
>/v/ believe a "leak" from "a guy working on the switch version" even though there's no real proof

>>384858948
They're not going to use the term "Genocide". It's in poor taste.

>>384860207
>Eggman's creations betray him

Wow original 10/10 Sonic plot

Daily reminder that literally the only thing that goes against the leak is that the name kinda doesn't fit

>>384860735
>"Sakura Synagogue"
>S3K for FREE with Mania
>fucking Amy

try again

>>384860735
they were going to put a zone called genocide city in sonic 2 and the only thing stopping them was time restraints

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>>384857320
>>384858683
Fuck Sandopolis, it isn't fun still to this day. Also fuck me for not getting at least 3 minutes in Act.2.

>>384857110
That doesn't really have "elements from the old special stages" at all. It's a pretty blatant rip of CD's gameplay wise. No half pipes, rotating maze, or blue sphere.

>>384860602
What are you talking about? That plot has never been done in the 4 main series games we've seen.

>>384860735
>Kinda
Yeah when I think Japan I think Jewish houses of prayer, come the fuck on. Also 18 zones is not "about as long as sonic 3&K".

>>384860860
nice I'll post lava reef in a bit, I'm dealing with a super emerald challenge.

>>384860783
How would Amy disprove anything?

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>>384857983
>Why the fuck would a beach be magic?
I dunno, Why the fuck would an amusement park be in the arctic?

>>384860194
leaker anon stop doing this to me

>>384860783
>Genocide City
>Blue Spheres in the Retro Pic
>Not entirely impossible

Try again.

>>384860848
It was gonna be called Cyber City and was gonna be a single act zone after Metropolis, which is why Metropolis is 3 acts long.

>>384860735
There's also this >>384860207

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>>384860897

>>384860950
A snowy theme park isn't that strange of a theme.

People actually taking a fucking leak seriously because it predicted
>japanese themed level
(everyone already fucking knew this was coming because of the ninja Hard Boiled Heavy)
>the special stage will use elements from previous special stages
NO FUCKING SHIT

>>384860930
And Stardust Speedway Act 2 being a Cathedral IN THE DAY TIME is somehow less of a stretch? And about =/= exactly.

Why would there be spring blossoms in a snow level?

>>384857128
>first he's called Heavy Trickster then he's called Heavy Magician
which is it?

>>384861032
that isn't a stage element, it's a reference to an old sprite.

literally every single area in the game has references to old sprites.

>>384861024
See
>>384860440

People are just over thinking the plot.

>>384861110
Did I say anthing about stardust speedway? And about =/= 1.5 times the length either.

>>384861048
I think people RIGHTFULLY WANT A SONIC 3K TAXMAN AND STEALTH PORT YOU FUCKING SEGA FAGGOTS and are desperate to believe anything that indicates such a thing will be reality someday.

>>384860897
CD wasn't a race so the only thing really similar here is the mode 7-esque pseudo 3D and the UFO, and the leak only said "elements taken from previous special stages", not "elements taken from ALL previous special stages".
And the blue spheres are right fucking there open your eyes jesus christ

https://anchor.fm/insidecomiccon?at=455086

>>384861253
>Sonic Mania
>S&K3 taxman port

Pick one

>>384860735
>Already knew about the Sakura trees from the screnshot
>Every Heavy besides Cape has a obvious as fuck design you can Conjecture off of (Ninja Star = Japan, Mace = Castle)
>Cherrypick popular themes from each game as "retro" levels because no idiot would want Hill Top Zone
>Final Zone in space like Sonic's never done THAT before
>No bosses mentioned for the classic Zones and it's already confirmed they're 100% original

It's the safest leak ever. The names are the only thing that would make or break this until the game releases.

>>384861467
FUCK YOU SEGA

>>384861253
And you're only gonna come out disappointed if you believe this shit.

>>384861248
Again, the only reason people don't buy the level name is because "it doesn't sound right" when it's fucking Sonic.

I don't know if I should get this on PC or Switch. The portability is so tempting.

>>384861484
>Already knew about the Sakura trees from the screnshot
What screenshot?

>>384861515
No it's because fucking no one would think Synagogue when coming up with a Japanese themed level, doesn't matter if it's Sonic or not.

>>384861484
I want Hill Top Zone :(

>>384861589
If you have a switch just get it for that desu

we both know it'll feel more "right" playing it on a console

>>384861590
The inside of the cathedral

>>384858829
it could be a nod to the Japanese Mega Drive covers for Sonic games since they have white backgrounds and colors splashed all over the place

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>>384861698
Point out the sakura trees in the screenshot.

>>384861253
Enjoy ruining your experince with this game because you're expecting it to come with another game for free.

>>384861484
>We didn't know about the Sakura trees until now. Pink Plants does not automatically equal Sakura Trees
>Ninja does not automatically equal Sakura Level
>Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Flying Battery, and Stardust Speedway were already popular as fuck picks
>Only game that's had a zone taken place on the moon is Advance, which was a boss fight
>Leaker could have simply not wanted to leak it

So will we get a full on vocal song for the opening or even a possible ending animation? Hyper Potions is doing the song for it, right?

>>384857075
>ninja=alien ranger?

>>384861662
why? it's as plain as Green Hill. It's a decent transitional zone but not memorable at all

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Finally

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>>384861619
Nobody would think of Aquariums when coming up with a Japanese Level, Sonic or not.

>>384861589
>>384861694
>Not playing it on a actual CRT.
Get it on PC, any controller you want (Including Genesis and/or Saturn) plus play it on whatever display you can hook up to it. Like a CRT for maximum retro.

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>>384856234
Better quality.

Assuming that all levels get an act 2 except Marvelous Moon, the leak is way too long:
>11 remixed zones + 6 new zones with 2 acts + marvelous moon: 35 acts
Compare to S3&K:
>6 zones in S3, 5 zones in S&K with 2 acts makes 22. Add 3 zones with 1 act(HP, SS, Doomsday) for a total of 25 acts
If the game is "about the length of 3K" which we know it is, there's no way the leak is real

>>384857667
> & their newest ally, Knuckles the echidna

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>>384862036
Oops, never mind.

>>384862064
Because they didn't know Knuckles all that well except as an antagonist for most of Sonic 3.

>>384862043
What about levels that might not have two acts, like Hidden Palace, Sky Sanctuary and Lava Reef?

>>384862064
I love how much of a direct sequel to S3&K this is shaping up to be.

>>384857481
source for this pic please

>>384858158
if only I could taste the magic.

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>>384861961
That's a plausible thing to come up with as something to mix with a Japanese theme, this is the equivalent of having pic related in the middle of Mirage Saloon or something.

>"Synagogue"
What did they mean by this

>>384861908
Good mix of speed and platforming
All around fun stage
And I dig the music

>>384861619
And yet a cathedral area is definitely confirmed to be in the Japanese sakura tree level, thanks to the matching red plants and floor in both.

>>384862190
was just pointing out the & knuckles meme

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>>384860914
>That plot has never been done in the 4 main series games we've seen.

While you're TECHNICALLY right, Eggman Betrayal plots are fairly common in the games...

>Knuckles Chaotix
>Sonic Adventure 2 (Technically Grandfather's creations)
>Heroes
>Sonic Advance 3
>Lost World
>Sonic Rush Adventure
>Lost World

I'll omit Adventure and 06, since it was just Eggman being retarded and expecting ancient gods/demons to help with with world domination for no reason.

The comics AND cartoons have a fuck ton of arcs regarding it, and Snively is literally "EGGMAN BETRAYAL PLOT: THE CHARACTER".

It's not an original idea.

>>384862385
M I R A G E

>>384862493
My man, good taste

>>384862493
It's Hill Top Zone basically just a less interesting version of Marble Zone?
It has the same mix of hilly green areas, fire ball shooting outdoor lava platforming areas, and indoor volcano/lava areas with set-pieces like lava chasing you or lava rising.

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>>384862385
>Level Themes never clash
>What is Oil Desert, Frozen Factory, Aquatic Base, Sweet Mountain, Crimson Carnival, Death Chamber,
I could go on.

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>>384862594
I am curious to see if they actually overtake Eggman as the final boss or not. Remember Generations did a bait & switch like that.

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>>384860458
>I wanted american levels

>>384859589
I could do that shit when I was 3 years old. Literally how can they be that retarded?

>>384862760
>that page
holy shit eggman

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Shitty clean up job but whatever

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>>384862891
The secret worst character loss from Archie's Sonic comic run is actually the Archie version of Eggman. If he has this personality in IDW i'll be very happy.

>>384862729
Uh no?
Aesthetic isn't everything.
It's just my opinion but I think Hill Top is one of the most solidly designed levels in the game.
I don't think Marble Zone has a single loop in it.

>>384862958
3D Sonic game with Saturn graphics created by Taxman and Stealth fucking when?

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>>384862891
>that page

You think THAT page makes Eggman terrifying?

You haven't read the comics anon.

>>384863048
Loops are a gimmick.

>>384863120
>that headpat

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>>384862760
>>384863120
>>384863016
Holy shit, comics Eggman is fucking hardcore

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>>384863120
Goddamn i'm gonna miss the Egg Bosses. We didn't even get much of them.

>>384862729
I didn't know less interesting meant less shit.

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>>384863016

Everyone's assuming Flynn will be on IDW Sonic since he already does stuff for them, so we'll at least get Best Egg back.

>>384863048
>Aesthetic isn't everything.
What? I didn't mention a single thing about aesthetic aside from "green".
I'm saying they are very similar level concepts.
>hilly green areas and the occasional fireball platforming segment on the surface, lava areas with lava-based set-pieces underground

>>384862958
>dat sonic R model

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>>384863016
>>384863120
>>384862891


Archie Eggman isn't just competent...

>>384863093
I want a 2D game with 100% original levels first.

>>384863150
I'm just illustrating the point that Hill Top and Marble are completely different from a level design standpoint, just similar in terms of aesthetic.

>>384862729
Hill Top is Marble Zone done right. Actual speed not slow platforming and waiting

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>>384863373

...he does NOT FUCK around.

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>just got home from work
>see the news about the special stages
>mfw

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>>384862760
>>384863016
>>384863120
>Eggman will never be like this in the games

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>>384862729
Lava never rose in Marble Zone unless you mean those blasts shooting the block you were standing on upward but I'm pretty sure you mean that slow rise that Hill Top has. Also you're forgetting the seesaws from Star Light Zone being in it, those breakable ground things that are covering tubes for Sonic to go into, the platforms that lift you from one side to the next and the Rexon enemies that have long heads but bodies you can stand on. I don't care much for Hill Top myself, I just had to mention these level concepts you forgot. Plus the level design compared to Marble Zone is pretty different since it takes the speedier approach that all Sonic 2 levels have pretty much where as Marble Zone was very platform heavy with a decent amount of secret paths via walls you go through.

I just hope the new comic will still have Vanilla.

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>>384857115
Now the medieval zone is confirmed.

>>384863339
Marble Zone is all slow platforming in tight corridors, and the lava only chases you once through a linear hallway.
Hill Top can be really fast and has a lot of vertical movement.

>>384858620
Ayyy Anon I believe you've gifted me Mania, using the same Metal Sonic picture. Nice to see you again!

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>>384863486
>>384863273

Archie Eggman is what Game Eggman should be.

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The only thing this year is lacking is the announcement of a new racing game.

>>384863579
holy fuck

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>>384863526
>Lava never rose in Marble Zone unless you mean those blasts shooting the block you were standing on upward but I'm pretty sure you mean that slow rise that Hill Top has.
pictured: moving lava set-piece in Marble

And I'm just saying they have VERY similar concepts, for fuck's sake.

>>384863579
Again Mace Heavy. Did you think he'd be the boss of a Arabian Night stage?

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>>384863731

Game Eggman is a bumbling doofus who usually gets close to winning and then trips on his own two feet because he either got cocky, wasn't paying enough attention, or just took the idiot ball and ran with it.

>>384863747
What's SUMO been up to anyway? I wouldn't mind another Sonic & Sega Racing game.

>>384863861

Snake Pass

>>384863579
I need scans of this right now.

>>384857115
This almost sounds too good to be true, I'm not even a huge Sonic fan but this would totally be enough to convince me.

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Hmmm... could this be an earlier version of the special stage?

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>>384863859

Archie Eggman on the other hand has already enslaved 90% of the population and would have had control already reach the stars if it wasn't for the resistance fighters, which ARE just the resistance, not the overall government. Archie Eggman isn't on the verge of winning, he IS WINNING, and the resistances fighters have to give it ALL they have just to keep the game going.

>>384863579
How much more evidence until people accept their new Japanese Jew overlords?

When can I play as Rose or Cream again? Tired of the old Sonic, Tails Knuckle trio.

>>384864015
>3
>Half liFoxy Rena confirmed in Sonic Mania as an unlockable character

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>>384863831
I personally didn't really count that as the same since you mentioned specifically lava rising, if you mean moving in general sure. Also chill out, I was just going into details about concepts & mechanics to point out how they do differ.

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>>384863731
>>384863859
Archie Eggman just loses because Sonic is OP as fuck in the comic, he completely wipes the floor with everyone else. I also love Metal Sonic in the comics.

>>384863687
Yeah, no problem man.

>>384864129
Amy was confirmed by the leaker, she does sonic3's spin jump with her hammer

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>>384859502
I think word of mouth might help push it through. Everyone I know who likes Sonic is hyped as fuck about Mania except one fag who thinks Sonic Generations's Classic sections controls fine and thinks all the 2D games have bad physics but his taste is so shit that I count him as an outlier
Even if Forces outsells I imagine Mania will have better profits because it's probably on a more modest budget.

String up all jews and niggers. Sonic 2017.

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>>384864074
I'm really hoping Ian keeps competent Eggman - it's nice to see an antagonist who actually succeeds in their plans and keeps the heroes constantly on the run.

>>384864161
>I personally didn't really count that as the same since you mentioned specifically lava rising

I said:
>and indoor volcano/lava areas with set-pieces like lava chasing you or lava rising
>lava chasing you OR lava rising

What did you think I meant by that?
And why aren't you upset about me saying that lava chases you when that doesn't happen in Hill Top?

>>384864123
>Silhouette a heavy is in armor with a morning star

GEE I WONDER IF THATS A KNIGHT AND THEIRS A CASTLE

The leak was the same derivative shit everyone has been speculating for weeks

>>384864168
>Metal Sonic

Shard or MK II?

>>384864307
>Even if Forces outsells I imagine Mania will have better profits because it's probably on a more modest budget.
It's also being sold at a more modest price

>>384864426
I like both, but i'm more partial to MK II. Metal Sonic is also my favorite Sonic villain aside from Eggman though, comic villains included.

>>384863859
>>384864074
>>384864347
"The game" is the best thing they've done for Eggs Man in years.

>>384864415
You mean aside from getting the special stage 100% correct, and connecting the cathedral area with a never before seen outdoor sakura tree filled area?