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Let's say that next year Capcom rolls out Super Street Fighter

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Let's say that next year Capcom rolls out Super Street Fighter V and it fixes all of the games problems. Would you consider picking it up again?
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I'm having fun with the game as it is already.
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>>384838273
define "all the problems"
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>>384838273
>pay $60 for fixes that should've already been in the game
That'll go over well. Is this how fighting games worked before?
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>>384838273
If Season 3 has Oro, Q, and Sagat maybe. Although I don't trust Capcom to not butcher them. They'll give them all shit redesigns.
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>>384838463
no, it would be a free update for the guys who owned the previous version
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>>384838463
I can't tell if you're being serious.

This is Capcom, the same company that pushed dozens of rereleases of SF2.
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>>384838519
it will definitely have Sakura and Sagat
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>>384838519
Q is all but confirmed season 3, though I think they'll announce sagat first at the end of the year
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none of you niggers played meme characters like Q.
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I traded in my copy a few weeks ago and I am legit considering picking up another cheap copy (like under $12 if possible) solely for Abigail. He looks fucking perfect in all ways except his default model's face.

A Super SFV that fixes certain issues with the gameplay (the character balance is fine outside of a few being too weak) and has all the DLC from launch through at least the end of Season 2 would be good though. Then it would at least be worth full price (not that I wouldn't wait until it's a little cheaper anyway).
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>>384838273
>and it fixes all of the games problems.
But they wont. The game is fucked on a fundamental level.
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>>384838273
Me and some friends are picking it up again because the Top 8 at Evo this year was really good.
Sfv is fun...
Offline.
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>>384839154
you literally have no idea what that means
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>>384839352
And you aren't refuting it with a post like that.
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>>384838963
>I traded in my copy a few weeks ago and I am legit considering picking up another cheap copy (like under $12 if possible) solely for Abigail. He looks fucking perfect in all ways except his default model's face.
>A Super SFV that fixes certain issues with the gameplay (the character balance is fine outside of a few being too weak) and has all the DLC from launch through at least the end of Season 2 would be good though. Then it would at least be worth full price (not that I wouldn't wait until it's a little cheaper anyway).
You stupid nigger, you are not a good enough player to state whether or not the game balance is fine. You are casual scum
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>>384839425
You havent made an argument to begin with.
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>>384839154
>The game is fucked on a fundamental level
How? I dont think the need to change the gameplay too much no make it more fun
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>>384838519
>If Season 3 has Oro, Q, and Sagat
Sagat i can understand but who's gonna play oro and Q ? the same people that claims everytime "i mained hilm in 3rd strike pls capcom" but when the character releases nobody plays it
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>>384838273
every character would still cost an absymal amount of fight money, I don't feel like reinstalling just to grind for shit
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>>384839706
we saw how well that turned out with Alex lmao
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>>384839713
then you got the option to buy the dlc characters with real money like in any other fighting game.
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If they make it so I don't have to play with third worlders/wifi users I'll play
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it's literally a good game

based capcom gave us exactly what we wanted

crossplay, free patches and updates, unlocking new characters without money, new costumes, sexy girls, diverse cast, not a bunch of shotos and clones

of course /v/ hates it
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>>384839478
I did. I said its fucked fundamentaly, its mechanics promote randomness and the footsie game isnt there. Balance is also determined by how much a character can snowball you instead of actual tools. Technicality thrown out the window for "sick" confirms that in truth are you getting lucky with your CC. Priority system, input lag and CCs are retarded.

>>384839536
You have a read as well.
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>>384839706
R mika was garbage in A3 though and pretty good here. I don't get why people use this, they were shit tier in the old games so they'll be shit here.
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>>384839901
Everything you have said is wrong.
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>>384839713
You can unlock 6 characters in less than 20 hours.
Just from the SP content.
And you can unlock the remaining 4 by using trainers in harder survivals (but only for hp restore and infinity super not one hit kill) and you wont be banned because the game has no anti cheat.
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>all this lack of memory

Capcom confirmed that there was going to be just one SFV. No SSFV, HSFV, SSFVT or something else.
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>>384840072
Nice counter-argument.
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>>384840172
You still havent made one argument, you just spouted things that are factually wrong while pretending that they are facts.
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I'll wait for Ultra Street Fighter V
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>>384838273
I'm enjoying the game as is. What problems do you think the game has?

>>384839459
Evo was pretty diverse. I think he's right about the balance being solid. A few need to be brought up but other than that it's not bad.
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Finally made it to gold rank so i dont think i'll stop anytime soon
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>>384839891
Its just not as fun as guilty gear though, you have so many more movement options and its so much faster than sfv, sfv puts me to sleep after having played guilty gear for a while.
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>>384840264
Not my fault if you can't understand. My points are there, feel free to refute them. You ain't convincing anyone with
>y-you're wrong!
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>>384840138
They confirmed that you will only ever need to buy the base game.
And everything in the future will be free balance patches and updates.
They can simply rename Season 3 to Super SFV as a free update for people who have the game.
And as a new re re release the game for new adopters that has all the DLC kinda like a Deluxe edition like what Souls games have.
Or how FFXIV got a Reborn.

Nothing is stooping them from just calling season 3 Super.
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>>384840425
I dont have to refute anything that is claimed with no argument attached, so until you actually put some effort in you will not get a proper response.

Last (you) you're getting until you get your ass in gear.
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>>384840548
You wanted arguments, you got them. And it shows when somebody cant refute shit so, good luck with that sore butt.
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>>384840027
People just want to look "og" by pretending to like shit, like come on nobody played Q on 3s, no fucking one except kuroda (who pretty much mains the whole cast) and now suddenly you have a huge amount of people asking for that character claiming "he was my main"
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>>384839891
Only waifufags and people who want edgy serious characters hate Abigail. Prove me wrong.
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>>384840080
I just ran the infinite hp and did used xappader to keep pressing a while I was gone.
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I just want better characters s2 was lame outside of ed and arguably kolin
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>>384840709
I don't think people actually say the mained Q, if someone says that they're pretty much just larping. People want Q because they like his character design like Skullomania, and think that an unrefined brawler brute would be cool. Like SF's version of Miguel. Q actually wasn't that fun to play in TS, he just felt really clunky, he'd need to be revamped here.
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>>384839891
nice job explicitly leaving out the gameplay which most people actively shit on and have stated why its so bad
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>>384840709
>People want to look OG by pretending to like garbage 3S characters
Third Strike children have memed their awful roster into relevance I guess. Actual OGs know that the World Warriors are the cream of the crop and we're only missing a few of them. T. Hawk, DeeJay, and Fei Long can stay behind for all I care though.
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>>384840938
funny thing is unrefined brawler is pretty how half the cast plays in SF5.
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I love the shit out of SFV but here are some problems that most people believe are an issue.
I dont agree whit all of them but some are correct.

Few defensive options.
Right now in the game you realy have only block and VReversal which is easy to bait in to throw.
Throws are too powerful they are not easy to break like in IV and can be looped.
To many 50/50 situations makes the game feel like its less about strategy and more about guessing right.
Almost no Zoners.
Other than Gile and To some extend Ryu game has no zoners at all.
Even Sim is more of a rush down than anything else right now.
So the game feels like most characters play the same but simply have different attack animations.
Almost all characters have absolutely best combos.
That is combos that deal a ton of damage and corner carry meaning combo variety is low.

As i stated i dont agree whit all of these but these are the tings i hear people say is wrong whit the game.
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>>384841048
gameplay is great though.
people complaining are bronzies.
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>>384841053
Fei Long is really good and has a mechanic thas missing in SFV.
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>>384838273
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>>384840737
you can't sit there and tell me that his default costume was modedled good, from his deviant art tier anatomy to his failed abortion face that shit a blight upon my vision

and his theme is generic scremao bullshit for some reason too
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>>384841180
I like Fei Long too. Why is he the least popular of all Bruce Lee clones in fighting games? Law is incredibly popular, I think Jann Lee is liked more than Fei Long, and so is Liu Kang.
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>>384841053
Hey i like t-hawk he's cool
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>>384841048
because they're wrong and stupid. gameplay is good

>not balanced!
lmao 13 different characters in top 16 at evo
>muh unfair characters!
laura, balrog, and ibuki didn't even place high at all
>wahhh it's random
lmao then why do you keep losing and good players keep winning?

shitters are mad they have no one else to blame. They can't blame 1f links or hard combos anymore (glad 1f links are gone btw, another good thing)
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>>384840862
Abigail is pretty cool to me
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>>384841269
he doesnt shout wattahhh as much I guess and he's harder to play than any of the other ones where you get to mash for easy early results.

he does get decent play in the games he's part of though. strong footsies with rekkas and a dp go a long way.
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>>384841273
Naw fuck you.

t. Bison
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>>384838463
It went over a lot better for SF4 than this shit with SFV. Thing about those re-releases is it's a chance to rope in new players every time as long as it doesn't go overboard with them, unlike SFV which is still fighting off the negative reception of it's launch.
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Beep beep, savior of SFV coming through
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>>384841053
>Third Strike children have memed their awful roster into relevance I guess
Yeah that's pretty much an idea that emerged for whatever that 3s is the best fg ever and if you like you're so cool, it's like the most hipster fighting game
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>>384841053
Main problem whit world warrior characters is that they are a relics of early fighting games.
Most of them have seriously retarded looking moves that make no sense.
This is probably why the ones that did make it in to V got serious reworks.

I can guarantee you that most people want them only out of pure nostalgia.
Like if someone went back in time and made it so a character like Honda never got released in SFII.
And then he got released today instead of Abigail and had all the same moves as in SFIV people would say how he looks dumb and has dumb moves.
So even if we do get more world wearier characters expect heavy changes.
SFIII may have had a ton of weirdos but all of its characters has amazingly animated moves that make sense in the context of the character.
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>>384841518
GIVE ME MY WAIFU BACK
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the only cool playstyle character thats missing from turd strike is necro, but he is ugly as shit and I'd rather not have a garbage design like that in my game.

damn shame about that playstyle though, its fun and 3s being the garbage it is was limiting him hard.
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SFV is a hell of a lot better than SF4 and the newcomers are miles better than the SF4 shitfests
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>>384841703
Yeah cause flipping a coin is so easy right ?
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>>384841053
I love Third Strike's roster though. It has the best females in a SF roster by far. And Dudley is pretty cool, I don't care about how memesy he is, he's just really fun to use. The World Warriors were just stock stereotypes.
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>>384838273
>still a cringy af game for perverts
No.
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>>384841556
I absolutely hated this character upon reveal but he really grew on me over time. Just like FANG did.
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>>384841778
as opposed to SF4 with its option selections and endless oki/vortex?
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>>384841130
They should just make vreversals throw infincible
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>>384841371
He's ok but I won't pick the game up for him. The dlc characters need a theme it looks like they are pulling names out of an hat.
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>>384841778
SF4 was literally coinflip on wakeup garbage already.
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>>384842001
the theme is so far that they were all part of the extended universe, but not playable in Street Fighter games yet.
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>>384841647
>>384841797
Realism has no place in Street Fighter. I love Honda, Dhalsim, Blanka, and the other ridiculous whackjob staples in the series. I also don't have a problem with Abigail even.

Shitters like Sean, Remy, and the skater faggots? Just put me to sleep why don't you. And the characters that were actually bizarre in 3S like Twelve or Oro look like they belong more in the Darkstalkers universe than the SF one.
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>>384841910
At least options selects imply more strategy ad more work for finding ways to counter them than just sitting there and guessing. Oki/vortex how many characters had those ? (i mean really tricky and annoying ones)
I'm not saying this game was perfect but it was hell of a lot better than 5
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>>384842202
>At least options selects imply more strategy
LMAO
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>>384838273
Naw, I'm having more fun with Guilty Gear than I ever had with SFV.
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>>384842186
I bet if Darkstalkers does get revived Akuma or Oni is going to be a guest character.
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>>384842257
Read the entire sentence "strategy and work for fining ways to counter them"
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>>384841778
Try coin flipping your way to evo finals then
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>>384841803
There's literally a male character that wears nothing but a thong.
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>>384842394
yeah fuck off, thats shit spergs labbed out and then everybody just copied it.
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I didn't think there would be so many people defending SFV
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>>384838273
Yeah.

Assuming they do, of course. and assuming they actually address and fix the problems. If they just re-brand season 3 updates and rebalances as Super, than fuck no.
The game's infrastructure needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, the UI needs to be streamlined more, they need to redo the netcode, fix the input lag, and re-do the fucked up character models, like the ones that are actually fucked up, like Ken with all his clipping.
The PR doesn't help either. Any other company would've fired that John D guy, and I feel bad that Combofiend, Gootecks, And the a lot of the top faces in the FGC is so dependent on Capcom to say anything bad about the game.
Any other company would've done a public apology for the state of this game, but Capcom is somehow either too stubborn, too stupid, or too greedy to do anything about it, much less acknowledge it.

I actually want Street Fighter to be good. I don't want it to fail. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna excuse all fuck-ups they've done with this game.
They need to fix this. what's left of this anyways.
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>>384842392
only SF guest character that makes sense is twelve
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>>384842529
I know there's a general on /vg/ that routinely sucks Capcom's dick everyday for Street Fighter.
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>>384841130
>Even Sim is more of a rush down than anything else right now.
>implying this is anything new
smelly dumb 09 scum
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>>384842354
No you have to like SFV it's such a great game
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>>384842354
post 30 seconds of you actually playing GG
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>>384842186
>Oro
>Shit
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>>384842710
He looks like the guy who inspired the joker on the left. Jesus Christ what went wrong.
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>>384842626
So many think that the crippled SF4 versions of characters are how they were always.

Like they get upset about Guile being able to get in and fuck shit up in SFV when he had that upside down kick that exists to fuck up people trying to grab tech since SF2.
WHEN HE HAD EASY AS SHIT TOUCH OF DEATH COMBOS
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>>384840709
not to mention no one even fucking played 3s to begin with
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>>384838312
Sorry to hear that

>>384838273
nope.
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>>384842186
I am not talking about realism i am talking about characters having moves that fit.
SFII didn't realy have the room to give characters interesting looking moves.
This is why so many moves are characters literally spinning around or propelling there body.
Instead if acualy interesting attacks.
Because these moves can be preformed using only a few frames of animation that the hardware allowed.
Like literally more than half the cast in SFII has spinning moves.
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>>384842707
I've been a Zato main for a couple years and a fighting game player for over a decade. Don't need your shitposts, I honestly believe that GG is a great game and SFV is garbage (though I was a big fan of SF3 and 4)
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>>384842583
And Nekali.

He could acualy use his mud powers in Dark stalkers as part of his move list.
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>>384842101
That's not a theme but more of a rule to fill up slots with.
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>>384843510
thats absolutely a theme.
otherwise you wouldnt even be able to get five DLC characters together, unless you wanted them all to be dolls.
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I'm in the mood to stream a lobby, anybody wanna play?
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>>384843829
>stream
I can hop in for a bit, sure
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This game needs something to spice things up. New v-triggers, new supers, or a new system to spend ex bar or v-trigger on, something like that because I'm getting tired of how stale everything is right now
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>>384843956
Lobby's open
EC US
No password since no one will really join anyway
twitch tv/celadongamecorner
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>>384839154
>>384839154
This. They would have to go back on their design philosophy entirely for SFV to be good, and that would involve a complete mechanical overhaul. The game is forever doomed to stale, uniform mediocrity.

The game is good for one specific type of player though, so I can see why some people defend the game so vehemently.
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>>384844471
too late I have to take my dog out if you don't mind waiting a bit
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>>384839901
>random
>no footsies
>lucky
>They didn't outplay me they just snowballed me
LTG is that you?
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>>384838463
Underage detected
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>>384838273
Do I have to pay for the upgrade?
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>>384844254
Oh boy, a new v-trigger for me to just use as a roman cancel out of my stand roundhouse. That'll really shake things up. Maybe I can even get one that'll give me another left/right mixup for a reset too.

The game needs a defensive mechanic for you to spend ex meter on first and foremost. A few more besides that wouldn't hurt either. Almost every character needs at least one more special move for neutral control/spacing too, in addition to faster walkspeeds and more midranged normals all around. No more of this universal stubby t-rex hands shit. And get the input delay down to 4-3 frames for the love of fuck. That will bring SFV to the level of an acceptable fighting game for competitive play.

And for me personally, I would like to see a few characters that require some decent execution to play properly. Someone like c-viper with seismos, sf4 juri with negative edge, guy with run/stops. Just some character that does something for pressure and bnbs besides basic 5 frame links. The game right now is just boring babyshit.
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>>384844471
>Laggy Brazilians and Japs
So this is the power of jive
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>>384838725
Where has this been confirmed?
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>>384845274
The same place ssf5 was confirmed ie nowhere
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>>384841702
Necro is based my man
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i already play the game all the time but if they want a penny more from my initial purchase then they need to bring it hard with super sfv
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Reminder that only manlets and weebs don't like Abigail
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>>384845206
The normals need to stop being so stubby. Until they fix that, this game will remain shit.
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>>384845360
>Ingrid
>Viper
>Necro
>Q
>Oro
>Pepsi Man
All garbage. I'll take Sagat and Sakura though.
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Needs Guy and Poison for me to guve a fuck
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>>384845480
But I'm a manlet weeb and like Abigail
ABIGAIL PUNCH!
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>>384838797
How is Q all but confirmed? I'd be ecstatic if it's true, though they'd have to change him substantially to differentiate from Balrog. Maybe focus more on his command grab mixup game and crazy juggles.
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>>384845480
I like final fight characters but abigail is probably among the most boring. Edi E, Damnd, Sodom, Rolento, Poison, Cody, Guy, even Haggar are more interesting. Abigail is just your token big body with forward moving armor moves, although I guess that helps him fit in with SFV's boring characters.
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>>384838273
im never going to buy a capcom game again after this shitstorm and mvci
they are trying to kill fighting games
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>>384845539
>Wanting Le female Ryu
>Over character that actually have unique designs and play styles
Sakura is so fucking boring.
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>>384844471
is it full? I can't find it
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>>384838725
Sakura is probably going to get a Ken treatment and be completely different from before. Sagat is going to be shit because nuCapcom hates traditional long recovery fireballs.
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>>384845694
>>384838797
>>384845337
>>384845274
the guy who leaked season 2 has confirmed sakura and sagat for season 3.

he also confirmed that Q, Viper, Oro, Necro will NOT be in season 2 as someone else claimed.

this is the only true and accurate information we have now.
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>>384845860
You're right, I realized after posting that it should be Makoto instead. So Sakura can go in the trash with the rest of the list I guess.
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>>384845865
I closed it, no one came. I'll reopen it if you want
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>>384845981
ready when you are
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>>384845539
>I'll take the most boring ones
You must be fun at parties.
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No Dudley no buy
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>>384846071
It's on then
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>>384846094
If you combined all of those characters together they wouldn't be worth half as much as Sagat by himself.
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>>384845780
I think they just wanted a really big guy that wasn't another Gief-like grappler and went with Abigail.
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>>384838273
>if capcom remakes a bad game and then actually makes a good game, would you buy it?
depends if it's good
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>>384846071
Whoops gotta remake the lobby, 1 round was a rmistake
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>>384838273
Is SF the only fighting game that can fuck up it's launch and treat it's fanbase like shit over a year, but the signs of a revamp may actually breathe new life into it? If any other game tried that people wouldn't give an iota of shit past the first month.
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>>384842354
I personally hate these webms.
all this "cool anime clash" bullshit is misrepresenting what's already a great game.
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>>384845927
I mean, even if those 2 weren't confirmed, they seem like the most obvious picks for returning characters. I imagine they'd also bring back another SF3 character that hasn't reappeared yet, perhaps Sean because he's already story relevant due to Laura. Aside from that, I would guess something like Honda, Cody, and another SF4 character, maybe Hakan or Abel. Honestly I'm really fine with any characters so long as there's no Blanka, Fuerte, or Viper.
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>>384846174
>TIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERTIGERUPPERCUT
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>>384843320
Necali is legitimately one of my favorite fighting game characters of this decade
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>>384846174
Sagat is literally the next Alex.
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>>384846393
I'm pretty sure you can edit the settings mid lobby
either way no pass is stupid
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>>384846625
Sagat is a fucking bombshell of a character. He has an instantly recognizable design, he's been there since the first game, he was one of the four original Shadaloo boss characters, he's noted for being broken in every game that he has appeared in to the point of needing to be neutered in SSFIV and beyond, and he is a "Ryu rival" character that stands out from Akuma or Ken in his design and motivations.

He's loved for a reason.
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>>384846494
Depends on when Capcom finally decides to announce the damn update instead of leading their fanbase around with dlc costumes.
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>>384846673
No, he's not. People who love the World Warriors actually played the game they appear in.
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>>384846816
>tfw love Sagat
>They'd probably give him a completely shitty redesign
Were Zangief and Karin the only ones not to get touched at all? I'm kinda glad that they didn't.
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>>384847280
>Karin
She literally lot a bunch of moves locked behind vtrigger.
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>>384847441
I meant design wise.
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>>384846393
>3s music
>a3? ken
>black juri
wut
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>>384847280
Dhalsim and bison look better than ever honestly.
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>>384847280
shitty redesign and his zoning would be crippled for sure. Hope you don't mind seeing your fireball pressure character get turned into another dash/jump/CC and then fierce into v-trigger function.
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Only reason I haven't got it yet is because E.Honda isn't in it. I'll buy it once my boy is in it.
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>>384847724
They look better than ever to you because they are barely the same characters anymore, especially bison. His normals were shortened beyond belief and his walkspeed is less than half as fast. You probably just didn't like how they played before but you enjoy the hyper aggro SFV playstyle.
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>>384841797
>Dudley
>a meme
What the fuck is up with this generation of retards. Holy fuck. Can we go back to 2009?
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SFV is one of those games that is getting way more hate than it deserves. Don't get me wrong game still has a lot of flaws but it's much better than 4 at this point of it's lifespan.
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>>384847837
Honda and Blanka will never return.
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>>384847876
Look better than ever. I'm talking about visual design.
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>>384847876
Bison main throughout here, are you implying Bison was not a cornering scissor kick pressure washer in older installments? He doesn't have that or psycho crusher anymore but Psycho Axe, his new ST. HK, and the ability to convert head press into devil's on the fly are all GOAT.
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>>384845694
>Q
>anything like boxer beyond a charge punch
Enough of this already.
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>>384846494
That's the perks of being a popular established franchise for decades.
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>>384838273
I mean, sure. I'd also pick it up if it magically gave me a qt loli succubus waifu but we all know that's not going to happen.
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>>384838273
What ARE all of SFV's problems? Nobody I asked has ever been able to directly answer me this question. What legitimate reasons do people have to hate it? I'm really fucking curious, please somebody answer me.
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>>384842583
Twelve making a comeback is overdue. I know the character was weak as shit in 3S, but it's one of the coolest designs in the SF roster. It's one of those characters that could benefit from a complete redesign moveset wise.
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>>384838273
the only thing i like about sfv is playing alex. its a very stressful game to play. you get put in the corner after getting hit by a laura/balrog/whatever combo and suddenly you're in a situation where you make one more mistake and you're stunned. just stand there and block? get thrown. tech? get reset back to the same position, still in the corner under pressure. neutral jump expecting a command throw? they throw out a normal throw and anti air you on your way down. try to mash? get blown up with a crush counter.
theres so few defensive options that after footsies are done and one player pushes the other to the corner, the game turns into a giant guessing game that is heavily rigged against the defender. removing invincible meterless reversals and stun dont help.
theres also technical issues like shitty netcode and long loading times. the loading times dont bother me much but the fact that the loading screen blows out your fucking eyeballs with a white screen doesnt help.
they'd have to fix all that to pull me back in
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>>384848154
They're just gonna link you that stupid Core-A whining video and call it damning.
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>>384848154
I mean, I enjoy SFV primarily because Birdie is in it, but I can't deny how dry it feels in terms of content after playing Rev 2...it really puts it to shame
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>>384848154
wrote a blog here >>384848242
it's also missing a proper tutorial (current tutorial is too simple, doesnt explain more advanced tech) and arcade mode. character stories being one round and 1 or 2 matches certainly doesnt help. locking colors behind survival mode makes it a huge chore to get them, should just unlock with regular play
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Is there a lobby open? Wanna practice my FANG
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>>384848383
Tutorial doesn't mean shot when the casual crowd will give up no matter what. Point is the genre is competitive as fuckkkk and unless you teach yourself that losses will help you grow, no amount of lessons are going to prepare you otherwise.
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>>384848559
>unless you teach yourself that losses will help you grow, no amount of lessons are going to prepare you otherwise.
i agree but still, the game could always teach you more.
at least it's not like tekken, which is one of the harder fighting games out there and doesn't have a tutorial period. that game does nothing at all to teach you about its mechanics. i wonder how many people don't know you can jump off walls in tekken
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>>384848431
This, I'm ready to get my game going as I will need all the practice for Abigail.
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>>384848109
Scissor kick pressure and low/risk reward neutral with his fast walkspeed and good pokes were his game before, yeah. I respect the character loyalty but I still don't like the way a lot of the characters got completely changed. Moveset changes are one thing but a lot of the characters don't even fill the same niche/archetype they once did.
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>>384848706
>could teach you more
No tutorial will ever teach you like playing a human opponent will. That's the unfortunate truth. You can spend hours learning BnB's and combos but it doesn't mean shit if you can't set them up against someone who's aware of what you're attempting. So yeah, a basic tutorial is fine but I'll never understand this desire to turn it into a game in and of itself. GGs for example is great, but I still get my ass handed to me online.
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>>384838273
Not if i have to pay for it.

The only thing i wanted was better ranged nirnals and kess blockstun. Even abgail seems to have shortened attacks.
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>>384848113
Cmon dude, he is SF3's Balrog don't even try to deny it. Dash punch with overhead and low variations is way too similar. Sure the rest of his kit is pretty different but not enough to make him a totally different style of character when it all revolves around the rushes
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>>384848984
that's never how Q played, it was parry into knockdown/command grab to spam taunts
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>>384848918
of course playing (primarily losing) is the main way of learning. i'm just saying the game could have something where it goes "hey here's what a tick throw is" or "hey here's what a reset is". just explaining generic fighting game concepts to a new player. so that they have an easier time learning later on, and know what to look for
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>>384838273
>and it fixes all of the games problems
Sorry man, it just isn't happening. The game has problems in almost every regard.
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>>384848431
>>384848776
Lobby's open and public
twitch tv/celadongamecorner
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>>384848984
>sure the rest of the kit...
Exactly. The thing about 3S is that characters functions are applied in interesting ways. He has a charge punch, but that alone doesn't make him balrog, I'm sorry. Not in the sane way necro fir example takes after Dhalsim.
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>>384838273
No because even if the game is a dollar I don't want to pay $59.99 plus tip for all the DLC that's come out since then.
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>>384845539
SF2/Alpha nostalgiafags are the worst
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>>384849348
How is Necro even similar to Dhalsim? Maybe it was intended that way, but all of the good necros made the character exceed in short range.
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>>384841556
>Literally a shitposting Canadian in fighting game character form

I love it. Super armor, Counters and pseudo-infinites all day erryday.
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This Alex is incredible
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4 days, get cozy
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>>384849508
Contrarian 3rdStrikefags are the worst.
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>>384842529
it is all of the scrubs that couldn't hack it in USF4.

The game had to become easier for them to succeed, that's why they always complain about FADCs, option selects and vortexes because their sausage fingers can't move that fast.

its sad that they defend the dumbing down of a really entertaining and fun game, but its astonishing how much a person will bend to protect their fragile egos
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>>384849508
No, Third Strike kiddies are. Thanks for your input though. You're the actual "09ers" of the community in terms of how you act.
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Obviously
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>>384849840
>>384849784
No, you're bunch of manchildren that couldn't accept the superior game just because it didn't have your waifu in it.
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>>384838463

Hey, friend! Let me call you out on your shit for just a second!

I'm currently playing Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2! I've been on board since Sign! Now, I bought it first FOR SIXTY dollars! Its a well balanced game, but surely that's all I'll have to pay, right? Oh, here comes Rev! An updated version of the game! Ah, wait, its being treated as a DIFFERENT game! So sixty dollars once again! But oh ho ho ho, that doesn't include Raven! HEEEERE comes Rev 2! If you don't own Sign and Rev, you better cough up! But its still 20$!

Fuck off! SFV's model needs to be rebalanced! But I bought half the roster in SFV with fight money!

Suffice to say, Rev 2 is the superior game. SFV is the best price wise.
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>>384849946
Literally don't care about waifushit. Roster is trash, the balance is trash, parries obliterate the neutral. Third Strike is barely even a Street Fighter game but you idiots demand that every other installment attempt to emulate it.
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>>384849682
Likewise howvis Q anything like Balrog? thats the point.
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>>384840709

You post in every single thread that talks about Q. I recognize your shit posts.
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Why does Abigail look so fucking fun compared to Kolin and Ed? I don't even like V that much but I'm actually looking forward to playing as him.
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Would SFV be good if they removed crush counter in neutral, raised walkspeeds, gave poke normals more range and damage overall and improved fireball frames and damage?
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>>384850190
Does this fix him?
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>>384850057
Neither Rev or Rev 2 were 60 dollars, friendo. Shouldn't you be kermitposting or returning to your /fgg/ circlejerk?
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Reminder that /v/ and /vg/ has not got a single good fighting game player.
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>>384850308
infinitely better. I'm actually okay with the tires though, I guess. It's just whatever. I can't believe I'm so indifferent towards a final fight character in SF though. I usually love them.
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>>384850320

Stop lying, asshole. I absolutely love the fuck outta Xrd but stop fucking lying.
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>>384850308
Maybe incorporate a few aspects like the tires for the design on the right and it would be perfect in my eyes.
>Inb4 I get called a faggot for not liking "Wacky" characters.
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>>384850308
That would fix him for me. But I'm also of the opinion that his default design is shit and his alt costumes are so much better. I'm surprised by how much Abigail is growing on me. I hated him at first but he looks pretty fun to play actually.
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>Download 020.030 patch
>Framerate suddenly capped at 50fps

The hell happened?
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>>384850308
A bit boring if you asked me. Why is he so angry? After the initial shock i started to really like Abigail alot more
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>>384850415
>Except the pro players from fgg like cloud509, broski, ema, jebailey, etc
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>>384850190
Ed was so disappointing. Kolin is ok but I get tired of her quick. Hopefully Abigail and the remaining two make season 2 worth it.
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>>384850308
I think it looks a lot worse.
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>>384840862
Menat fucking when
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>>384850190
Abigail looks OP desu
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>>384850057
Raven is unlockable with the option to buy him for impatient shitters/tournament organizers. If you bought Revelator at launch all DLC characters were free.
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God damn add my big titty bitch Rose in S3 please. Menat will need her mentor.
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>>384850308
Infinitely worse
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>>384850308
>Muh realism
Gay, go play MK
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>>384851803
reminder that my ryu owned you the other day
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>>384841130
Block and throw escape is literally all you need for defense. And people complaining about no zoners have obviously never payed someone with no projectiles. Suddenly you start realizing how much zoners there are. you need to stop listening to shiiters who can't play the game and start playing yourself.
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>>384851803
Why are you tripcoding?
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are you east coast?
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>>384852006
So everyone can know how shit he is.
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>>384851910
Oh? Who were you? Who was I? Want a rematch? The lobby is still open
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>>384852006
To make matchmaking easier obviously, if anyone wants to join the lobby they can just look for my name
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>>384838273

'Problems' is a little subjective, its more like who can do what with what.

New comers love the throw loops and 50-50 nonsense but other people think its strategic.

I will say throws are annoying though because while over time your reaction will probably adjust compared to usf4 they happen too fast to consistently tech them sometimes.

At this point they should just put in characters people really want. I don't even really know who I want maybe aside from Gill.

Sakura - I honestly didn't like fighting against her in usf4, can't stand her 'almost infinite' combos with her tatsu

Oro - I wouldn't mind him seeing as he actually has a voice when he talked to Dhalsim.

Q - wouldn't mind him really, i probably wouldn't use him much

Sagat - i used him sporadically, he's pretty much just a sf mainstay at this point, though interestingly enough in a recently interview Daigo said he wanted to see him in 5 so Bonchan can play him again.

'Menat' - Supposedly she's Rose's egyptial apprently, this is said to be the name of the chick who appears in Ed's ending. Would be nice to have another new chick

Zeku - I hated fighting Guy, I'll probably hate fighting his master too but....people like Ninjas so I'll bear with it.

Assuming they'll stuck to their word and have three more seasons (they claim to support the game for at least 5 years after its release) that should be at least 18 more characters....gotta have some decent ones in there.
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>>384852729
Is there a way to search for names? Sorry for being retarded, I'm just venturing into online now.
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is it possible to have fun when playing against characters like zangief, laura and balrog?
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>>384845927
>Q
>Oro
>Necro
>Not in the game
These guys, hakan, hugo and/or dudley are all I wanted in season 3. I'm not waiting another 2 fucking years for them.
Fucking dropped.
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>>384852010
ANSWER ME JIN YOU LITTLE SHIT WHERE ARE YOU PLAYING FROM
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GGs Birdie, you certainly are better than your Super Silver ranking
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>>384853353
yeah
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>>384853353
see >>384844471
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>>384838273
Here's the thing that confuses me about /v/ and fighting games. EVERYONE on the internet apparently hates sfv yet they're always commenting on every sfv video, always posting in every sfv thread, a lot of them even play sfv still.

I play almost every fighter, and everytime I try playing Guilty Gear or something else that's not Street Fighter or Smash Bros. there's always nobody online. Every year on evo sfv gets so many watchers and entries. And when I go online on sfv there's always a lot of people to play with. I still play USF4 from time to time and there's more people playing that than most of these newer games.

It's weird how much of a hateboner everyone has for sfv yet they can't stop thinking about it, talking about it, being so obsessive about it. And it's still played more than most fighting games. It's like reality and people's perception are completely different. Admittedly, sfv sucks compared to 4 but I think it's still a solid fighting game. I like the fact that it's a constant back to back fighting and not "get touched once and have to watch a 5 million hit combo" like everything else. Neutral game has always been my favorite part of fighting games. Smash and SF are more about that above animu flashiness, guess that's why they're so popular. And I respect that Capcom never made a stylish style like in BB/GG and a one-button autocombo like in KoF14.
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>>384853358
well thanks. you're pretty good at spacing yourself
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I can't find the room either. God the search in this game is such balls. Why is it the 2nd year intot his game and we still can't filter out regions.

Who would ever want to play against a brazillian.
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>>384845480
I dont problems with Abigail's proportions, its his albino nigger face what drives me madgear
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>>384853550
Think of it this way, it has the most fans, so proportionally it's going to have the most critics as well.
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>>384853631
Because the old guy left and now I'm hosting if anyone still wants to hop in
ft2, 3 rounds, character select on, hosted by debin, 2563
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>>384853625
I think I played you a few weeks ago and was impressed then.
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>>384853080
Well, when the lobby list loads up just look for the one with my name
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>people saying "Street Fighter shouldn't be realistic, and the characters should have interesting-looking moves!"
>they will likely then turn around and berate Darkstalkers
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I can't find debin, superwavy, jincredible, or anyone.

Jeez, just password your rooms next time. The SF5 lobby search system is so awful it demands it.
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>>384853871
I don't play ranked very often admittedly. You really make alex work, I feel like I hit a dead end with him but EX BACK-DROP is just so satisfying to land. I like the way you work s.hp into your strings, I kinda do the same with birdie's s.hk and typically get much better results than I did with you
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>>384854203
but I did throw a password on to keep the br's out and literally nobody is in here
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Fuck it, I'll make my own room.
Rounds 3
Time 99
Victory Ft2
Password 4321
Phnkytown
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Alright, I'm ready to play. Who is hosting the fun lobby?
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Lobby now has a password: 1111
/celadongamecorner if you just wanna watch
>>384854454
>>384854508
Join us
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>>384854508
i didnt know mike had a broken thumb
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>>384854454
>That fucking combo by Debin which did 60% damage.
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>>384854223
thanks, I think he's basically a dead-end character too but he's also really fun to use and exciting overall so I keep on going.
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>>384854845
Just keep it a secret, kid.
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>>384854927
Gotta work harder with Juri to get them W's ;_;
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GG's Debin, you play well for a Silver!
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I wanted Laura to be Blanka's sister
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>>384855736
shes already seans sister
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nice to see you again pickles
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>>384855904
I know, that's why is wanted.
Because already saw that seans was the brother instead
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how about instead of re-releasing the same fucking game and charging full price for it again they fix the game through patches since the technology is here now and there's literally no reason to regress back to an archaic system?
what kind of a fucking mongoloid retard are you, OP?
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GG boys, now that I have been defeated I'm heading over to the next room, great games you guys.
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one day I wont be shit with juri
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>>384856301
nothing in OP's post implies charging a price
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>>384856301
They probably will feature some season stuff
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>>384856719
you do understand capcom did this for every sf game before sf5, right?
shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about
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>>384856901
doesn't answer the question, there's no reason to go back to that system if you can do it through patches anyway. find an argument and come back
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>>384856954
nothing in OP's post implies charging a price
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>>384857208
>Let's say that next year Capcom rolls out Super Street Fighter V and it fixes all of the games problems. Would you consider picking it up again?
>Super Street Fighter V
>Would you consider picking it up again?
>picking it up
>again
you're clearly either underaged or actually retarded and have the reading comprehension of an african refugee, please stop embarrassing yourself
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>>384857427
As in playing it again, retard. I'm not even that guy, but the speculation is that SSFV would be a free update to current players but will also feature a boxed edition that's up to speed in terms of characters and such.
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>>384838273
I never picked it up the first time, and I won't until near the end of the PS4 lifespan or with the PS5 where Crapcom releases a version with all the DLC included.
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I cant believe I dropped that Mika combo for the win. Totally broke my morale
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>>384838519
>Q
No thanks
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>>384850308
A for effort, but i'll take capcoms version.
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>>384838417
Agreed. Have they completely visually overhauled the game so it doesn't look worse than Contest of Champions as part of this update?
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are any of the lobbies still going?
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>>384859890
all dead i believe
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>>384859890
Debin still up
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>>384838273
I never picked it up and I never will
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>>384846558
it's just >shit that never happens - the webm
funnily enough, they started in guilty gear intros, but escalated to fuck in those blazblue videos, much like in this webm
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