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Reminder that if you haven't played at least five of these you should not be posting on /v/.
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I've played far more than 5 of those and I think you should stop posting.
Opinions are subjective and when you start touting them as facts it makes you a faggot OP
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Can I just jump straight to Gothic 2 or do I need to play the first?
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DS
BB
Mario
Persona
nocturne

I don't play western games lol.
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I've dropped more than 5 of them after 2 hours of tedious gameplay.
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>>384837112
so you just regularly shitpost about a game being better than what others like and it becomes a /v/ essential ?
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>GTA IV
>Not SA
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Nu-/v/, OP please kill yourself.
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>>384837112
played 9 of them
>gone homo
pfffttt
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DaS
BB
NV
P3
SM64

I've started several of the others but never finished them.
>gone home
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>>384837112
I know it's bait but
>gone home
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Played 13/17
Finished 5/17

Do I win? Also where the fuck is SimCity 4/3000? One of those definitely deserves a spot over Gone fucking Home or GtA IV (SA should be the GtA rep anyways)
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>>384837112
REMINDER:
/v/ has shit taste and 90% of the games on any /v/ approved list are meme games /v/ likes ironically
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Darksouls is overrated garbage.
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>>384837112
Played 3
I enjoyed Morrowind and FONV.Not nearly as much as some here.
I did not enjoy Mount and Blade.
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>>384837112
I've literally only played Mario 64 out of those.
Sorry man I don't play western garbage.
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>>384837112
>gone home
Gave me a giggle
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>>384838526

Overrated: yes; garbage: no. The game is undeniably a huge influence on modern game design this past decade. Kind of makes it as essential as SM64.
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>>384838738
There are eight eastern games on that list.
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>>384837112
Played 12. These are mostly entry level games and I don't know why something like gta is on there.
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These all seem to fit into the same gritty western mold aside from Mario 64.
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>pathologic: started but stopped playing within 5 minutes
>deus ex: started but stopped playing within 5 minutes
>dark souls: finished
>vampire: started but stopped playing within 20 minutes
>new vegas: finished
>SoC: finished
>SM64: finished as a 9 year old
>GTA IV: finished
>morrowind: started but stopped playing within 2 hours
>warband: started but stopped playing within 2 minutes

the rest i haven't touched. i'll play bloodborne when possible, but i'm not supporting the practice of exclusivity by buying a console for it.
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>>384837112
Persona 3 has terrible party AI.
SS2 is also overrated but has a few good moments.
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>>384839285
Amazing blogpost bro you really redefined the nature of my evening with that enthralling tale.
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>>384839497
>WAAH stop making actual, substantial contributions to threads! >kek shadilay! memes! check my dubs for the epic win!
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How would neo/nu-v's list be like?
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>>384839618
I've been seeing a lot of Fallout 3 dick sucking lately, that's definitely one.
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>>384837112
Get rid of Bloodborne and Gone Home, and swap GTA IV with SA and you have a good list.
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>God Hand

Game was mediocre.
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>>384837112
>GTAIV
>Gone Home
>Pathologic
>Shin Megami Tensei
feel free to kys OP
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>>384837493
this
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>>384840220
Gone home is literally for giggles and BB threads were some of the most spammed for nearly a year.
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>>384840527
Kys kys kys kys kys subscribe to my gameplay channel ,i do CoD montages.
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>>384837493
This, I like GTA IV but if we're talking about /v/core, SA and VC are more appropriate, the latter more so imo
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>gone home
every time
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>>384837112
What are /v/'s thoughts on Pathologic anyways?
I have seen a few threads ever now and again.
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>>384840809
So the essentials aren't good games? Just based off of what gives people the giggles?
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>tfw try to start threads about pathologic remake
>tfw 0 replies
Is this caused by nu-/v/? I stopped browsing in 2013 an only recently came back.
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>>384837112
Lmao Im a reel nigga I only play Tetris
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>>384841916
Reminder that remake is going to be an entirely different game from the original as stated by the developers.
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>>384837112
I've played all those shitty ass games
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>>384841908
Of course! I mean it's not as thought the fact that gone home is still a board meme and the image is a low-res mess doesn't give it away!
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>>384837493
>vc
haha no. GTA IV is better. But why not gta v?
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>>384842285
I am aware, did you play the demo they put out?

I really love the original, it really is, along with "The Void" one of the few games that actually approach art.
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>>384837112
Definitely The Witcher 3.
Just to romance Yennefer
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>>384842372
>>vc
He said SA, dingus.
And V is not bad, but not the best
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>>384837112
>gone home
>not silent hill 2
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>>384837112
>gone homo
Does this count?
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>>384842367
So then there's no reason to discuss this list if it's just a joke right, let me change my response then.

LOL
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>>384837112

I'm only 4 but I was playing meme hand on my ps2 before u faggots ever heard of it.
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>>384837112
Pathologic remake when?
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>>384842841
I'm so glad you understood and didn't mistake my post for sarcasm!
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where the fuck is EYE
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>>384843196
In the trash, where it belongs, you double jiang.
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>>384838414
/v/ is the worst board on 4chan.

where do i go for a v-like experience with slightly less Autism?
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>>384843103
soon
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>>384843470
unironically reddit
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>>384843103
They say this fall but my money's on spring 2018. Dev blog has relatively frequent updates for once which is comforting.
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>>384843470

Gamefaqs forums. All the /v/ essentials were hipster games on there when they were new.
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>>384843476
HOW SOON
I NEED IT NOW
>>384843657
Do they have another blog besides the Kickstarter updates?
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What is in your opinion Ice Pick Lodge's best game?

I'd have to give it to The Void tbqh, who knew that what is essentially a dating sim could be so engaging
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>>384842375
>trying to bring up The Void in the usual "are video games art" and no one's even heard of it
I have only myself to blame, I suppose.
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>>384843834
>>384843842
You need to couch it in political terms. Complain about it espousing feminism, or something.
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>>384843739
http://pathologic-game.com/blog/en/
Is this the stuff that gets posted on KS updates? This is the one I'm talking about.

>>384843834
Might have to agree with you, at least until we see the remake. I do love Pathologic but its roughness really shows.
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>>384837112
Take that Persona weebshit off the list then it's perfect.
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>>384837112
I've played 8 of them and 2 of them I didn't much care for. It's Dark Souls and Bloodborne.
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>>384844083
I also must admit to preferring the fact that it is less "Russian" in setting and style. Pathologic touches on a lot of those old tricks such as faith:reason and civilized:pagan dichotomies, as well as of course the more original mechanics of The Void and tighter focus due to smaller scope.
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>>384837112
>Gone Home
>no Doom
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>>384844232
>Hehe i never played it but it's japanese and it's cool and funny to call anything japanese weebshit nowadays, even if it's a good game and i can't provide any real criticism but meaningless youtube buzzwords.
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>>384844328
I mean I love the steppe lore in Pathologic, especially the shit you uncover as Haruspex, but I'm personally more of a surreal/weird shit kind of guy so The Void was almost tailor made for my tastes. Plus the setting gives them the freedom to go nuts with the areas, I mean Pathologic had stuff like the Polyhedron but it's got nothing on some of the chambers in The Void.
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>>384844616

I watched a popular youtube stream of it and the hot blond and Asian guy playing it apologized for how shitty the game is.
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>>384844616
>being this mad at having such shit tastes
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>>384844808
>I watched a popular youtube stream of it
this current generation has left me in despair
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>>384837112
beaten:
das
bb
new vegas
sm64
gone homo

played but never beat:
pathologic
dude sex
persona 3
stalker
ss2
gta iv
nocturne
warband

i own vtm:b but have never played it
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>>384845061

Take it up with big red lazor
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>>384837493
>>384837571
>>384838138
>>384838754
>>384838738
>>384840220
>>384840527
>>384837112
Fuk, sorry guys, I went to shitter and didn't notice I posted a wrong picture up until now, sorry for confusion.
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>>384844616
except persona is weebshit in the correct sense of the world
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>>384844808
Fake unless you post a link to the stream or the name of those behind it.
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>>384845242
>EYE
It's worse now.
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>>384845398
Fuck you
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>>384845042
>>384845247
Provide some actual criticism or your opinion belongs in the toilet.
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>>384845463
No, fuck YOU, EYE is meme garbage.
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>>384839618
> Oblivion
> Fallout 3
> Dark Souls 2
> The Witcher 3
> Metal Gear Solid 3
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>>384845503
this
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>>384845242
>>384837112
I was gonna say, gone home was a bit of a stretch.
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>>384845492
It isn't imbued with liberty.
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>>384845242
>DMC3 and God Hand
>forgetting to add NGB with them
get it together anon
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>>384845492
It's not american, DUH. I only buy stuff that comes from the land of McDonald.
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>>384845585
>>384845503
Fuck you
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>>384845242
woah an actually good lis-
>e.y.e.
nevermind
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>>384845242
Played all but the JRPGs, God Hand and Witcher III.
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I've played exactly 5 of those. Only finished 1. And I believe Super Mario Sunshine was the superior game in every way.
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>>384845597
>he he hee i make funny america joke xD
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>>384845492
>convince me a series even SMTfags bash for being the barrell bottom of weeb clichés is bad
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>>384845242
Witcher 3 is /v/eddit core, replace it with Witcher 1.
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Where's Max Payne?
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>>384845719
Now, you can't have everything here, it's just core /v, games that are always mentioned, praised and in most cases most of people say something good about them. I could add at least 50 other games, but let's stick to the essential games.
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>>384845492
Persona 3

> Teenagers need to save the world through the power of friendship from an dues ex machine final boss that is ranting about existentialism and the meaning of life.

Same premise as FFX and every other JRPG.
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>>384837237
Having played a game or not, is a simple, objective, binary fact though, anon. Either you have, or you haven't. 1 or 0.

Is this how fucked up /v/ has become? That some ridiculous faggot like this actually thinks that's an opinion?
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>>384846010
>games that are always mentioned, praised and in most cases most of people say something good about them.

Its one of the go to games for why /v/ shits on every other action game released that isn't DMC or God Hand. Even Platinum gets a shit ton of hate for a lot of their action games compared to it.
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>>384845849
>>384846056
>It's any fps game
>Muh evil russians/terrorists/chinese/colonists
>america saves the day
>"original every time"
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>>384837240
There are a lot of characters and locations from Gothic 1 in Gothic 2. 2 is also a direct continuation of 1 so story wise you'll miss out on a lot.
I recently played both for the first time and had fun, but the difficulty is a little weird and the controls are kind of clunky especially at when you're first learning them.
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>>384846356
You forget about evil space aliens.
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>>384841638
seems half of the people on here love it, the other half dont know what the fuck it is, and a few others shitpost about it being a walking simulator
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>>384846056
>Absolutely no criticism about gameplay, graphics, characters, music or design only babbling about muh anime because you don't like le chinese cartoons
BOO HOO :(
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>>384846356
The problem is that an FPS also has gameplay to lean on, which means the setting and story content really does not matter. JRPGs on the other hand, aren't actual video games.
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>>384837112
Add Max Payne Faggot
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>>384846540
>pathologic
>walking simulator
confirmed never beat day 1.
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>>384837493
It's overrated.
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>>384837240
Gothic 2 is shit, skip it, the first Gothic is where it's at.
It will make you dislike the sequel, even the authors were doubting Gothic 2 quality.
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>>384846624
>JRPGs don't have gameplay
friend, when you exaggerate your claims to this extent you actually undermine your own argument because no one is willing to take you seriously anymore.
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>>384837112
>Dark souls and Bloodbourne on the same list.

Neck yourself, Souls fag. Dark Souls is shit.
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>>384846716
hey, i dont think that (its my second favorite game), just a lot of people on here say that
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>>384846634
I'd have to make some space for Doom first
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>>384846624
>If i can't run, shoot, throw granades, run on walls, slide, jump, crouch, teabag, place mines, use killstreak bonuses, drive vehicles or reload my weapon like an autist after every bullet i shoot it's not real gameplay because i personally find it boring and my mind costantly needs to be stimulated
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>>384846873
Read thread faggot, it's not valid anymore, I already told you that it's not correct one
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>>384846624
>in other news, Monkey Island, Syberia and The Longest Journey aren't considered games
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>>384846614

> gameplay
turn based

> graphics

wut gfx? its all anime drawings

> characters

Jun Pei is kewl. Rest are generic.

> music

11/10

> design

Original at time. Dated today because of P4 and P5 rehash

>only babbling about muh anime because you don't like le chinese cartoons

Because JRPGs are glorified virtual novels.
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>>384838138
>>384838754
>>384844460
>>384845842
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>>384846873
>hehe i say it's shit without giving any reason cuz of le funny "v hates everything" meme
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>>384847132
Obviously I only said one of two was shit for a reason. Reading comprehension.
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>>384846865
>>384846960
If I wanted to fuck around in Excel I would
>>384847075
Correct.
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>>384845796

Well you should play god hand and the witcher 3 then
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>>384847117
>image board
>stop posting images
You for real anon?
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>>384837112
I genuinely wish there were restrictions on who could use this board. But not by which games people have played. The board should be restricted to idorts who own a mid-high end PC + one current home console + one handheld (Switch can count as a home console OR a handheld, but not both). Poor people are just so bitter, I can't stand them. Imagine how much better the site would be if money wasn't an issue. When a console is discussed, people wouldn't dismiss it immediately because they couldn't afford it, instead they would have an actual discussion to find out whether or not it's right for them.
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>>384847116
So by your logic western games are glorified movies too because you like to generalize to the extremes, or are you going to dismiss me on this one because you have a bias towards only one of this categories?
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>>384847407
>The board should be restricted to idorts who own a mid-high end PC
>>384847407
>The board should be restricted to people who own a GTX 1080 TI GPU. Poor people--especially console peasants--are just so bitter, I can't stand them. Imagine how much better the site would be if money wasn't an issue.


fixed 4 u.
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>>384847468
Good western games aren't movies.
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>>384847468
I wouldn't consider a game like Borderlands 1 to be a gloried movie. The gameplay mattered a lot and you had options regarding how you wanted to play. In contrast JRPGs are all broken and you need to go online to find the most broken strategy to win. (Daisoujou in Nocturne).
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>>384847407
>>384847550
whats a mid-high end PC?

t. gtx760
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>>384847920

today in 2017

mid GTX 980 or GTX 1060.
mid-high GTX 980 Ti or 1070
low-high GTX 1080
high GTX 1080 Ti
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>>384847565
Post some names and stop being so generic, give some examples of games you are talking about.
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>>384848125
>tfw 970
>tfw no face
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>>384848125
b..bu...but I get 60 fps on most games. Im saving for a new card for a xmas present to myself. Can I still post here
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>>384848321
>b..bu...but I get 60 fps on most games

no because you are gaming at 1080p. 1440p master race check in.
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>>384848153
Not a single jap game ever made can compare to a true video game masterpiece like Quake.
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>>384848321
Only if you post more of that semen demon.
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>>384839616
>substantial contributions to threads
i've yet to see one from you
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>>384848321
who is this semen demon?
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>>384845242
Much better, but still needs Resident Evil 4.
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>>384848408
thats just a meme resolution for people to poor to make the jump to 4k though.

>>384848491
oh you like elizabeth?
>>384848543
7 deadly sins
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>>384837112
>Gone Home

This has to be bait.
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>>384848620
thankd
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>>384848420
Well, Quake is trash because i don't like arena shooters :^).
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>>384848153
I would say WRPGs such as Kotor, Borderlands and Witcher are better than any JRPG counterpart. When FPS, it's not even close no JFPS exists. Westerns games >
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>>384848573
>RE4 over REmake
Easiest way to detect nu-/v/.
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>>384847117
Here a reply image
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>>384848692
Quake is objectively one of the best video games ever made, both in terms of craft and aesthetics.
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But Tartarus fucking sucks.
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>>384848620
4k tv and 1440p monitor is patrician, nigger
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>>384848673
Haven't seen you around in a while, Heaven
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>>384848620
>thats just a meme resolution for people to poor to make the jump to 4k though.

1440p has been standard since ~2012, I would be on 4k right now but no "gaming" grade panels with low latency exist. So not peasant.
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>>384847407
It'd make this place an even more smug shithole.
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>>384848782
Barely anyone remembers quake, doom is far more iconical and representative of the genre.
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>>384848620
>oh you like elizabeth?
Yes.
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>>384849054
So what? Quake is still a far better made game.
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>>384849054
>iconical
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>>384842585
There is not a single "bad" GTA game. Even the GBA one is pretty fun.
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>>384848724
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>>384837112
I like that cover of dark souls, why did we have to get gey blue mist
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>>384849278
>what was that DS game
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>>384847117
Im beginning to think this image is just used so anons can lazily collect reaction images.
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>>384841916
>>384842375
It depends on the time, anon, but it goes through phases. I haven't been on regularly for a while but we had some really good threads towards the end of last year. Sadly, most of the good threads are in the middle of the night/early morning for me.
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>>384849383
China Town Wars is great dude. Try emulating the PSP version if you can.
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>>384849337
It's how box arts are done in North America.
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>>384849054
>iconical
Stop that shit. You can't add -al to every fucking word. It's iconic, more iconic, and most iconic you god damn philistine.

This and whenever "me and blank -" or "blank and me" pop up. "Blank and I" is the proper structure you inbred fucks.
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>>384849626
Sorry, mcDonald is not my first language.
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>>384849278
>There is not a single "bad" GTA game.
A man after my own heart
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>>384849187
pick up a book for once in your life or at least fact check google before making yourself look like you went through the american public education system
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>>384849810
McDonald's isn't even a language you fucking retard
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>>384849810
is this the power of eurotrash?
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>>384837112
I only played four of these
JUST
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>>384849931
>>384849982
>calls others retard
>doesn't know basic english
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Got really far into Deus Ex a couple years ago
Finished Dark Souls
Played loads of FNV
Played but haven't finished God Hand
Playing P3 for the second time right now
Played a bit of Mario 64
Played a little of Nocturne
Played a little of Morrowind
Played a lot of Warband

Not bad I guess
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>>384850075
You're the one saying McDonald's is a language you fucking imbecile!!
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>>384849931
Sorry,i meant to say Donald Trump, let's be friends again.
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>>384837112
>only game on that list I completed is Bloodborne
>only games on that list I played are GTA IV and Dark Souls
Fight me faggots
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>>384837112
>>384845242
>tfw never played any of these
>tfw no face
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>>384850075
ironical isn't included in "basic English" you third-world chimpanzee
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>>384850378
I refuse to believe someone in current year has never played Super Mario 64.
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>>384850432
"Ironical" is actually a word.
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>>384850531
It's Nintendo. Plain as that.
Growing up, I didn't have consoles.
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>>384845379

Big red lazor on zoomingames youtube. I dint watch it but it comes on TV through my local channel
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Gothic 2 and STALKER are the true standouts to me. I can get along with anyone who appreciates those games.
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>>384850075
if by "basic english" you mean the bastardization of english that uneducated europoors picked up from civilized men, then i guess it is "basic english"
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>>384850531
Please don't call me a cumslut but I've never played any Mario game in my life
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>>384850531
Me, for the same reason as>>384850658
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>>384850701
I was about to play Shadow of Chernobyl for the first time and I have two questions: Is it true that the game is balanced around the highest difficulty and is that the difficulty I should play on?
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>>384847117
my>>384844460 had a filename dumbass
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>>384850857
Yeah its less of a hassle at high difficulty cause the enemies aren't bullet sponges. You'll want to be conserving ammo. I cleared it at highest difficulty no problem.
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>>384851009
Thanks, I also prefer my first time of a game to be vanilla but are there any mods that you would absolutely recommend for a first time or should I just get some ones that fix bugs and stuff?
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>>384850432
>>384850723
>>384850216
>being this visibly upset you didnt know "Iconical" is a word
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>>384851172
I mostly just used vanilla fixes myself. The vanilla experience is great as it is. Check the stalker general for infographics and stuff.
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>>384851172
Vanilla is fine, there aren't any significant bugs either in the latest versions.

And yes, play on master, what it does is it increases the damage of every attack, including yours.
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>>384850960
KYS
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>>384837112
>Gone home
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>>384837112
Where's Thief?
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Excluding VTMB I have no interest in playing anything else I haven't on that list
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>>384851453
>>384851472
Thanks guys, looking forward to finally trying it out.
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>>384845242
Why do people like EYE so much? It's unplayable indie garbage.
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>>384851752
God Hand is genuinely fantastic if you're into action games at all.
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>call every japanese game "weebshit"
>dark souls is fine tho XD
Every time.
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>>384851324
Shhh anon, he's autistic, that's how they react, you should just nod and carry on.
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>>384852041
Because it isn't weebshit.
It having been developed by slants doesn't matter, you retarded.
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>>384852041
>western-inspired medieval fantasy game with british people everywhere
>weebshit
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>>384852253
Neither is mainline SMT, but it doesn't stop you faggots from shitposting about it.
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>>384837112
If you "played" Gone Home then you need to An Hero yourself, faggots.
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>>384845242
needs Resident Evil 4 and The World Ends With You
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>>384845751
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>>384843003
I actually own the game, faggot.
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>>384852353
>Neither is mainline SMT
Not so sure about that.
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>>384852384
this, holy fuck
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>>384845398
>nothing but praise in threads having to do with EYE

what happened?
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>>384837112
>GTA IV
This has to be a troll post. It's the most boring shit ever
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>>384846130
what the fuck are you talking about "binary fact"'1 or 0" you sound so insanely fucking pretentious and stupid at the same time its unbelievable how the fuck has no one killed you yet? im so sick of you fucking clowns pretending like youve been here for years saying shit like "is this how fucked up /v/ has become" with a sentence that makes 0 sense even after rereading it 3 fucking times
next time you think about typing in english do us all a favor and either dont or even better hang yourself you annoying piece of shit
hes right you stupid failure of a human being it doesnt fucking matter if youve played those games or not all these threads made by annoying newfaggots like you or OP are ruining this already shit board and i cant believe there are people like you who are so fucking annoying and cancerous that when you are absolutely unwanted somewhere you still decide to stay just to be annoying
end your fucking life
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>>384852586
>nothing but memes in thread having to do with EYE

Fixed that for you. I've never seen anyone actually talk about that game without spamming "That strange dream again deja vu" or "my legs are OK" on /v/.
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Game with anime art style = game
Game developed by a japanese company = game
Game filled with shitty anime tropes and moeblob garbage = weebshit
This isn't hard.
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>>384852757
>So uneducated he doesn't even know what binary means
>calling anyone else stupid
How's summer school going?
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>>384847407
I'd prefer seeing the site split /v/ between /vpc/ and /vc/, just to stop the stupidity peasant/mustard bullshit.

NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK AT ROLLING DONUTS IF YOU GAME ON A HIGH END PC, A TOASTER, A MODERN CONSOLE, OR A HANDHELD! JUST SHUT TO FUCK UP ABOUT IT ALREADY YOU ASSHOLE-SUCKING INBREAD GOATFUCKING KNUCKLE-DRAGGING OXYGEN-THIEVING ABORTION FAILURES. FUCK YOU!

FUCK. YOU.
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>>384852757
You might want to try punctuation and proper capitalization before calling other people stupid.
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>>384852757
Did you screw up your samefagging and ended up making two posts in one?
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>>384852986
I think he means that your binary falls apart pretty quickly with the logic of the thread.
1 = has played 5 games and can post
0 = hasn't and can't post
then theres people who haven't played 5 of those games and is still posting. If the "binary fact" meant playing a game is 1 and not playing it is 0 then it really didn't relate to the discussion enough to post it.

He's also pissed off that you want your top 17 games list to be the gate keeper of /V/
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>>384847735
>Daisoujou broken
>>>in Nocturne
Okay, anon. Okay.
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>>384847117
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>>384848695
not the guy you were arguing with but I couldn't enjoy any of the 3 you listed. I find the whole "find new sword/gun, equip new sword/gun, continue mainline until new weapon appears" gameplay unappealing. I don't shitpost about it because there's people who enjoy them. You should realize that there are merits to jrpg's and that some people like building teams and strategizing. Losing in a jrpg is normally alot more fun than passing through a boss on the first try.
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