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Reminder that if you play mobile gacha, you are no better than

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Reminder that if you play mobile gacha, you are no better than the normalfags that spend on Candycrush. Hell, you might be even worst than those casuals because YOU pay to have a chance to get a stock image of your "waifu" that you can get on the internet for FREE. You want a 5 stars Nero? Here. Now, stop playing gacha game, you are literally killing the gaming industry.
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What if I play them without spending a cent? Hard to believe, I know.
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ok dude thanks for the psa
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>>384803791
Thanks for the 5-star, senpai.
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NEROFEST SOON BOYS
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>>384803791
UMU
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>>384803791
But... FFBE is good
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Nero is a 4 star though.
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I'm so excited for the Nero Festival. I'm going to roll Atilla and Nero
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>>384803940
Why play them then? There's hardly any gameplay.
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Scathach when?
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>>384803791
See you at Nerofest anon!
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Only two years until Kiara!
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>>384805919
Not soon enough.

Actually, hopefully not too soon. I need to stockpile even more quartz.
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>>384805934
Kill yourself, I don't "play" this garbage,
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>>384805919
>>384806058
After GUDAGUDA Order
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>>384805890
That's nearly the point. If I'm on break at work, waiting for something, I can play a duel on duel links, or clear a map or two on FE heroes. It's nice having a little gameplay with some waifus to look at.
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>>384806049
Game will be dead by then, and good riddance.
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>>384806058
How much do you have?
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>>384803791
There's a 5 star Nero? I only see a 4 star
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>>384803791
It's okay when Japan does it tho. Get with the program dumb gajin OP.
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>>384804121
You know you're in the wrong.

>>384805548
Well, now you can stop playing. Just use my better Nero and stop playing Gachashit.
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>>384806373
192.

I should be able to hit 400-500 by the time she's here. If I don't get her I'll drop my account and get one that does.
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>>384806504
Who said that? Japan is literally cancer for introducing and supporting this dumb ass casual shit. Stop following Japan like a braindead dog, you fucking weeaboo.
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>>384806587
Did you already finish the story? How do you farm for quartz? Just dailies or do you farm already finished areas too?
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What's so good about Nerofest anyway? Farming for rare mats?
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>>384806587
>If I don't get her I'll drop my account and get one that does.
Na, that would feel like used goods. I'll get her with certainty.
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Still waiting for a european release.
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>>384806049
>E-tier servant
lmao
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>>384806840
Yep. It is literally the first chance the US players have to get quite a few of the ascension materials at rates above 1%
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>>384806776
I finished the story in a few days of release. I'm working on interludes now.

Farm dailies, get the log in bonus every day, stockpile lots of mana prisms by burning 3 and 4* EXP cards to buy summon tickets. Once you've finished all the free quartz stuff you can only get it from the login bonuses and weekly missions.
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>>384807082
>to buy summon tickets
Already out of stock.
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>>384806587
Scath is the one girl I'll whale up for.
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>>384803791
I agree, but they're all literally addicted so there's no getting through to them. Tamagochis are more of a videogame than gacha shit.
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>>384805919
>saving all my quartz for Scat
>Gil banner starts
>swap over to the next banner and hit summon to get my free daily summon without thinking
>Accidentally blow 30 quartz on a normal summon
>get fuck all

I was so fucking pissed and I'll probably just quit this game if I don't get Scat when she comes out
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>>384807189
Okay?
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Type Moon could have had actually good RPGs and Action games. Melty Blood was fantastic. Why the fuck is Nasu such a colossal fuckup?
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>>384807352
>Do that
>I had ran out of Quartz already
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>>384807352
Ouch, buddy.
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>>384807283
That's a dark road. FGO's gacha is cruel and you could end up spending a truly absurd amount of money in your endeavor.

>>384807189
They restock every month. They just didn't do it for the July/June transition, presumably because of the game not having been out for a full proper month.

>>384806898
If it's an account that has never been played beyond accruing log-in quartz, who cares? I sure don't. All that matters is I have Scathach, she's the only servant I give a shit about. I don't feel a need to "earn" her on my own from a random slot machine. It would be nice since I have a good account with a 5* and plenty of 4*s already, but I'll drop it all for her.

>>384807352
You should be more aware. That could have gotten you 10 Scathachs if you had the greatest luck known to all of mankind, anon.
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>>384803791
I play gachashit because it's an easier fix for my gambling addiction. Plus, I maintain a strict no money rule when it comes to them.
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>>384807620
Oh, cool. I didn't know that they restock. Is there any Scathach event that I should keep my fruits for?
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Memu still dead I take it?
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>>384806503
Nero Bride is a 5* but won't be out for awhile
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>>384807836
I don't think so.

There are two Scathachs by the way, though. Lancer Scathach and Assassin (Beach-wear) Scathach. The latter has the outfit in your post and is given out to every for free in a summer event, the former is the limited time 5* that we'll probably get in November or so.
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>>384807620
I live alone and make over $110,000 a year, blowing 1k for scath won't put hurt me much.
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Why is Scathach so perfect, lads?
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>>384808320
Some Anon in fgog blew $3k and didn't get her.
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>>384808393
Her lancer version is honestly pretty awful.

She has barely any personality reflected in her lines and it isn't until her Assassin version that she actually becomes bearable. Before that it's just whining about how she wants to die
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>>384808460
Did he ragequit afterwards?
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>>384808320
Invest that and retire earlier. What the fuck are you doing.
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>>384808496
Why are people spending so much on her then?
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>>384808653
>What the fuck are you doing.
Wasting his money on fruitless and gambling.
Not too much different from people who waste their life's earnings at the slots.
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>>384808320
Do you want to buy me some quartz to get her too? That's a lot of money, senpai.

>>384808393
Red hair, perfect body, and not a blushing little girl but instead a proper badass along the lines of Cu, Heracles and Alexander.

Helps she isn't a genderbend for no reason but to have another Saberface, too.

>>384808856
>>384808496
Her Lancer version is the best Lancer in the game, gameplay wise. Also I disagree with that anon completely and like her stoicism and degrees of self-loathing.
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>>384803791

With memu dead there is no reason to play the game anymore.
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>>384809038
>Her Lancer version is the best Lancer in the game, gameplay wise
Until merlin
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>>384803791
>Wahhh WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP SPENDING MONEY ON THINGS I DON'T LIKE
I'm gonna whale like a motherfucker on many of these banners and you can't stop me you mad child.
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>>384809038
>Her Lancer version is the best Lancer in the game
No? Tamomo is clearly a cut above and Bryn is easily on par.
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>>384808959
I'm just a cheap cunt I guess, but I never understand the "if I have money I must spend it" mentality. It seems like some people see it as a goal to spend all their nonessential income.
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>>384808320
Spend the 1000 on something else you moron. There's a billion better ways to spend 1000$ than on gacha shit. Go commission high quality Scathach art or something instead of wasting it on a mediocre mobile game
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>>384808856
She's secondary bait and most people are just rolling for her body. They'll be sorely disappointed when they learn she has 0 waifu lines in her lancer version and spends most of the time talking about Cu and dying

>>384809301
>Bryn
Is dogshit

Tamamo Lancer is only better due to Merlin synergy and the fact that the Break mechanic in most recent content makes Scathach's stun on NP less useful.
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>>384808653
>Just invest less than 1% of your earnings bro
What is even the fucking point.
Why do stupid people think that everyone wants to save every last dime of their money and use it when they're too old to enjoy shit anymore.
Yes, you should save money, should you save every last dime like some uptight faggot and never ever get anything you want? Fuck no.
Fuck off with your "Anti consumerist" bullshit, I work and I can spend the money on what I want.
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>>384803791
I just got a chink phone and I can't run FGO on it. When you open the app it just crashes immediately. Anyone have a workaround or do I just give up?
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>>384809371
>most people are just rolling for her body. The
LEWD
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Add me, senpai!

I only have a level 70 Ruler, though. 944,466,370
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>>384809457
Your call man. I save most of what I make, but I guess seeing a 5 star gacha character just doesn't give me the dopamine it gives you.
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>>384809661
Enjoy most of that money going to the state since you obviously don't have any kids that shit will go to.
Can't take it with you when you die, and nobody knows when their final day is.
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>>384809301
Not really. Tamamo has better synergy with Merlin, but Scathach on her own is better all around for the vast majority of the game's content.

Bryn is decidedly lesser than Scat, so either way you cut it, Scat is either the best or second best lancer in the game.
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>>384809802
I don't have any kids right now but I might someday, plus I can retire earlier if I choose to. I just don't get a rush out of shopping like most people seem to, but 1000 bucks on some gacha shit is pretty excessive. You could have taken a vacation or built a pc or something.
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>>384808320
>110k/year
Jesus christ anon, I hope you're investing that shit.
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>>384809371
>wanting Scathach to have waifu lines

That's not the point of her and anyone who wants her to be a blushing schoolgirl at the sight of her master senpai is attracted to her for all the wrong reasons.
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I'll stop when I have waifu

Someday
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>>384809457
>I work and I can spend the money on what I want.
>I can burn my money if I want to!
Go right ahead moron. Autists like you are the sole reason gacha shit is profitable.
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>>384809985
>I just don't get a rush out of shopping like most people seem to, but 1000 bucks on some gacha shit is pretty excessive. You could have taken a vacation or built a pc or something.

Anon, it sounds like he makes plenty do all of that. Saving, spending on gacha, going on vacation, etc. Just let him enjoy his life.
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>>384805890
>There's hardly any gameplay.
There's about as much gameplay as in your standard JRPG. Hell, the whole experience has felt very similar.
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>>384809985
Gonna veer off of shitposting because this is genuinely something I've seen.
Get a hobby.
Something you don't mind spending some time and cash on, it doesn't have to be a lot.
I've known a lot of guys like you who worked into their retirement.
Most of them died within a month after retiring because they all lived to work, and most of their lives were planning out work and money and that was it.
Not telling you to spend money, but find something you like to do other than going to work or managing money from work.
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>>384809371
>spends most of the time talking about Cu and dying
To be fair anyone who waifus her is a cuck since she literally got raped by him.
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>>384810196
Obviously I'm not making any moves to stop him. I just don't understand it I guess.

>>384810269
I have hobbies, I work out, I go to festivals, I'm outdoorsy, Vidya obviously, I'm fairly social.

I don't live to work, I just don't spend a ton of the money I make, I think it's just that I don't get the shopping rush or whatever seems to make people so happy when they buy some shit. Like figures, I could never understand what people see in figures.
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>>384809457
For sure bro.
A fool and his money are easily parted, after all.
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>>384805784

You're going to roll Spartacus and Fat Caesar and like it.
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>>384808320
I make half of that and I already put over 1k$ on Gil rate up. You can spend more than that anon.
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>>384810451
>I am a soulless husk, how dare you enjoy buying things you like and spend money on things that give you pleasure

Okay anon, sure
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What happened to the dailies that rewarded quartz?
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>>384810498
Money is replaceable.
Time is not.
I'm sure you'll never grasp the paradox of calling anyone who wants money a jew while hoarding your shit like your money can grant wishes or some dumb shit.
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>>384810546
I originally thought that it would be nice to get another 4* servant from the draw, but then I noticed the "includes craft essences" part. Why is it so much more comforting to live in ignorance?
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>>384810798
>I hang out with friends, love being outdoors, go to parties and festivals, and play vidya
>N-N-NO Y-YOUR A SOULESS H-HUSK!!!

Jealous breeds contempt, I suppose.
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>>384810451
>Like figures, I could never understand what people see in figures.
Gay or gay?
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>>384810865
>Money is replaceable.
As I said, a fool and his money...

>hoarding
I never said that, but okay :)
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>>384810451
>Figures
Closest thing to 2D becoming 3D
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>>384803791
That's great and all, but what about those of us who have spent over £100 on the same mediocre musou? What are you going to do to stop us?
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>>384811037
You can at least put a figure on a shelf and look at it and touch it

With gacha all you get is a piece of art and some voiced lines to listen to while you grind
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>>384811152
>>384811037
I guess I just don't have the collectors mentality. I enjoy my manga as much as the next guy, but I just read it online and wouldn't want it taking up space.

>>384810798
Honestly I'm a little jealous you can enjoy buying shit that much. I get buyer's remorse after most purchases.
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>>384806587
>192
Did you not do a 10 roll in the beginning?
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>>384810498
>I'll save every cent I earn and have an amazing retirement a few years before you!

Have fun with that I guess?

Too bad that most of 50-60 years olds I've ever met that saved up and retired early have ended up back working for 1/3rd the pay in a shittier line of work.
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>>384811262
Calling that a mediocre musou is giving it too much credit.
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>>384811529
>>I'll save every cent I earn and have an amazing retirement a few years before you!
I never said that, why are you projecting? Just because I don't burn thousands of dollars for shits n giggles doesn't mean I don't spend a cent either.

I almost pity you with your infantile cognitive dissonance.
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>>384811092
>Fool values his finite time over money that can easily be replaced.
Okay retard.
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>>384811262
Is there any decentish PS4 fate game?
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>>384807352
>Roll for Gil 5 times
>Get Jeanne 3 times and Atalanta twice

>Roll for Nero
>Get Altria twice in the same roll

I guess I have some kinda luck, but it sure isn't working for me.
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>>384811720
A fool and his money are easily parted I suppose.
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>>384811737
The only decent fate game was that arcade fighting game made by 8ing/capcom and thats on the ps2.
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>>384811889
t.NEET living off of his parents.
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>>384811720
I agree that time is more valuable than money and avoid overtime usually. But that's also why I value my money, I think of it in terms of shit I had to do at work to earn it and it makes me cheaper than I would be otherwise.
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>>384811520
Why would I?
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>>384811601
It's okay. Better than stuff like senran kagura.
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>>384810175
>>384810498
People go out and blow hundreds of dollars for booze and hookers, this guy spends his money for gacha. Nothing wrong with it if you can afford it, no clue how you can get so upset over somebody spending his money.
How can he be a fool if that gives him happiness? Isn't that the way money should be used?
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Fate MMORPG when?
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humanity is doomed, they are handing you a slave collar and you are putting it on willingly
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>>384803791
There is nothing wrong with playing Candycrush.
But if all you play is Candycrush, you shouldn't pretend like you're a "gamer" or whatever.
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>>384811981
I'm making $80k as junior in an engineering firm actually, but nice try Mr. Frivolous Spender.
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>>384811671
So what are you complaining about then? People spending their disposable income on something you don't like?

What do you even think you're doing here? Do you also hunt down people that go to fancy restaurants instead of eating basic subsistence food? Or people that actually pay for digital only video games that have no resell value?
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>>384812012
Just asking, people usually spend their first 30 quartz rerolling for a 5* accounts. 30 quartz for a sure 5* is a pretty good deal.
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>>384812181
we shouldnt allow these threads in /v/ then
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>>384812075
>How can he be a fool if that gives him happiness?
What if I told you burning $100k in a bonfire makes me happy? Would you call me or fool, or praise me as a smart person?
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>>384812246
This was a topic design to shit on gacha, why are you surprised that people in here don't have a favourable view of it?
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>>384812246
>So what are you complaining about then?
I'm just here to call out your false dichotomy of how if one doesn't like throwing thousands of dollars for a mobile game means he is a scrooge that doesn't spend money at all.

Only children think in those terms.
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>>384812406
I would say more fucking power to you, hombre, if it makes you truly happy.

Whether I consider it something worth my own $100k or not is irrelevant to your happiness.
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>>384812406
>everyone should treat money and live life the same way I do!
You seem like a enjoyable person to be around. Fool
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>>384803791
>the entire front part of her skirt is see-through
Holy shit nasu has some of the worst character designs.
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>>384803791
>YOU pay
lmao nigga I don't pay a fucking cent it's a free to play game and that's how it's going to stay on my phone.
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>>384812664
Ah, so you are an enabler. I pity your future spouse and family.
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>>384812605
You or someone with your exact same line of thinking was the first to bring up the "You should invest all of that money, not spend it on something frivolous" argument.

Don't you put this in reverse on me.
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>>384805919
Perhaps in November. Since we are two or three weeks earlier in schedule than the Nips when they started.
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>>384812406
If it satisfies you go ahead.
Do you call people who spend hundreds of dollars on fancy food, hookers, booze or a trip to an amusement park also fools? Next morning you'll wake up and the outcome is the same for everything: you're left with nothing but the memory of that dopamine rush.
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>>384812716
>He has no concept of the value of money and thinks burning his entire life savings is fine
>Calls anyone else a fool

Sorry hombre, you're not fooling anyone. I can't tell you how to spend your own money, but know that other people are laughing at you much like they're laughing at those people who burn away their entire life savings at the casinos.

Anyways it's time for me to head out so you can have the last word if it makes you feel better :)
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>>384812320
It would have been a waste of quartz when I don't care about any of the 5*s in the game right now, and the only servant I care whatsoever about getting is Scathach. Why would I want some shit waifu for 30 quartz when I can save that for who I want?
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>>384803791
>my ultimate Fate waifu is finally here

Please please oh Gacha God, if I can have only one character in this game let it be Nero!
I wont ask for anything more.
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>>384812913
>You or someone
Well it wasn't me. And probably not that other Anon either since he said he has hobbies, goes to festivals, etc.

Besides you're the one who made the false dichotomy in the first place. You can't lie about that stuff on an imageboard where people can literally scroll up the quote chain, family.
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>>384812818
Do I look like your mother? It's none of my business how you spend your money. If it makes you happy, whatever.

If you were actually part of my family I would teach you otherwise if it were necessary.

Thankfully you are just an idiot on a mongolian throat singing forum trying to talk people out of spending their disposable income on things they enjoy.
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>>384812942
>Do you call people
I had a cousin who blew $50k at Niagara one weekend while the rest of us were partying. I called him a fucking idiot and told him to seek help.
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>>384812913
That was me, it was probably an unnecessary comment. But goddamn 1000 bucks on a mobile kusoge is hard to swallow.

If he wanted to buy a book shelf and fill it with figures and manga I could understand but gacha is like as low as it gets.

>>384813108
Nah it was me that said that. Investing was just the first thing that came to mind.
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>Still no word on a Euro release

WHY
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>>384803791
>Reminder that if you play mobile gacha, you are no better than the normalfags that spend on Candycrush. Hell, you might be even worst than those casuals because YOU pay to have a chance to get a stock image of your "waifu" that you can get on the internet for FREE.

Since when does playing a gacha mean I definitely PAY money?
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>>384813127
>If you were actually part of my family I would teach you otherwise if it were necessary.
Ah, so we do agree that certain spending habits are bad and just because it is a stranger doesn't change that sad fact.

You could've just said so from the beginning and saved me the trouble of replying to you seriously!
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>>384812985
>burning entire life savings
The conversation started with someone burning 1k when they make 100k+/yr. Exaggerating doesn't make you anymore persuasive
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>>384813016
Maybe for gameplay reasons? Roll for example a waver for the cheap price of 30 quartz and you can farm mats for your waifu faster.
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>>384813232
>But goddamn 1000 bucks on a mobile kusoge is hard to swallow.
It's just gambling, but instead of a money payout you get a virtual payout with no monetary value instead.

I don't understand those people either, but it's their money to burn, not mine.
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>>384813421
Not really a big deal, berserker spam destroys this game as it currently is.
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>>384812391
I never said they aren't games, just that if that is all you're playing you probably shouldn't claim you're a gamer.
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>>384813212
Depends on how much he makes per year. If he's a rich millionaire then I don't really think that it's stupid.
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ITT: Poorfags who can't comprehend people spending money on things.
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Feels good that I don't have to sperg with gacha because I'll get the other 2 for free.
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>>384813349
>if it were necessary

Thanks for missing half of the sentence and the rest of the post, it's a wonderful indicator of how you're a moron. But I guess we already knew that since you had to connect a guy spending less than 1% of his income on a pleasure activity to someone burning $100k in a bonfire to try and make your argument.
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>>384813556
I don't think that's the case in the later game. If your waifu is for example a welfare servant like Kuro or Nobunage you'd want a strong gameplay hero so you can grind for their np5 np. Though I certainly admire your dedication for Scath.
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>>384813575
He makes $200k/year.

But it's still silly. The oil tycoons who do high stakes gambling don't really earn my respect either. I'm more of the same mindset as people like Bill Gates / Elon Musk who uses their vast wealth to invest or fund charity, not blow it all for cheap thrills.
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>>384813532
1000 bucks can buy you every good game in an entire generation. How could you even begin to argue that trying to get a shitty waifu in a kusoge is better.
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Granblue Fantasy > FGO
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>>384813771
And what if he wants his digital waifu more than he wants to play a bunch of games he isn't interested in?

What gives you the right to judge? Or more importantly, why do you think he should give even the slightest inkling of a fuck about your opinion?
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>>384813871
FEH>GBF>F/GO>KHU>P&D
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So who are you guys most excited to get in the English version? Mine is pic related.
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>>384813696
I never understood this. This is really dumb mentality, if you have money you must waste it basically? If I was a billionaire I still wouldn't buy gacha waifus.

>>384813987
I think everyone has the right to judge pretty much anyone. He shouldn't give a fuck about my opinion though. We're in a topic about shitting on gacha, why are you surprised that people are doing it.
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>>384813771
>implying he can't afford his waifu and all good games he wants
He makes enough to buy both. No need to choose.
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>>384813771
Name a single good game in this generations. This is currently the dark age of gaming.

>>384814114
Paying for you waifu isn't wasting. It is the same as spending money on date and car.
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>>384814114
And I never understood that mentality of denying oneself of things they enjoy despite being able to afford it.
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>>384814114
If you don't have family money that's still in your account after you die is wasted money.
Might as well spend it on a mobage to get that dopamine kick.
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>>384814374
It's called self-restraint.
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>>384814343
No, last gen was the dark age for a lot of reasons.
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>>384814529
Its called being a laughable retard.
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>>384813697
>the other 2 for free.
Soon to be the "other 3"
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>>384814250
Any dollar you spend could have been spent on something else.

>>384814343
Nioh, Total War Warhammer, Dead Cells. I'm aware your response is just going to be to shit on these games but you're wrong and they're all certainly better than any gacha game.

Look dude if you could somehow actually make your waifu happy in 2d land that would be different, but you're just enabling some greedy cunts in suits who are using psychologists to help them manipulate you. Fuck he could commission a bunch of doujins of her and I'd consider that money better spent.

>>384814374
Opportunity cost basically.

>>384814514
I somehow doubt that a /v/ poster playing gacha is old enough for that to be a concern.
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>>384814114
What are you going to do with your expendable income, if not buy things with it? That anon is clearly well off and can afford to drop cash on frivolous shit that he enjoys.
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>>384814693
>Any dollar you spend could have been spent on something else.
"Why buy something you want when you could buy something you want?!"
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>>384814108
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You may pick one and only one of them.
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>>384814693
>any dollar you spend could have been spent on something else.
I don't understand this reasoning. He's rich enough to get everything he wants. There's nothing else to spend on. And still people shit on him cause he apparently wants to get his waifu in a mobile game.
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>>384813987
>What gives you the right to judge?
The same way I judge gambling addicts, I'll judge kusoge mobage addicts.
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>>384814704
Besides the obvious investing or saving option, you could spend it on just about anything that isn't psychologically manipulative gambling.

>>384814780
Basically yes. You could buy a 700 dollar pair of sneakers, or you could buy decent shoes and buy a bunch of other shit as well. In this case the 700 dollar sneakers were a stupid purchase regardless of how much you enjoyed them.
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>>384814693
>Nioh
Discounted DS

>TW Warhammer
Warhammer is a dead franchise and TW will also be one

>Dead cells
>Pixel, Early access
This trigger me

Everything you consume profit someone else. Waifuism is for healthy for your mind. Human need a social companion. And Waifu is the safest option because it carry absolutely no risk with it unlike a human
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Glad i finally got Mo-san but damn i have way too many sabers in the process of leveling.
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>>384814907
How is there nothing else? He could buy a figure of her, or commission art of her or do just about anything other than gacha and it would be a better decision. He's not even buying her, he's paying them to roll the slots.
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>>384814114
You don't have to waste it.

But if something makes you happy and won't detract from your other goals and comfort, why not?

I've never spent a penny on gacha, but if it's what makes him happy and doesn't hurt him, that's fine. Pleasure spending is one of the bedrocks of our entire economic system anyways.

>>384814921
What a useless way to spend your time.
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>>384814880
Neither
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>>384813745
Scathach is strong enough to carry me once I get her, and after I get her I will be free to spend my quartz on whatever I want whenever I want. It won't be a big deal.
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>>384815021
Gacha is an awful form of waifushit though and all of those games are fantastic. I would expect a mobage player to have questionable taste though.
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>play this for about 10 minutes
>realize I could be doing something else
>never touch it again
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>>384814907
>There's nothing else to spend on
Aside from gambling for a 1% chance of getting a virtual character that won't even last after the servers shutdown.

I mean honestly if I was going to drop $1000 for my favourite character I'd just buy a $300 figure of her instead.
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>>384814921
What's wrong with gambling addicts? If they spend money on their own then they are contributing and stimulating the economy. This already make better than half of this country which doesn't pay a dime of tax and leeching on welfare
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>>384814880
Who would ever pick Jeanne Alter over perfection?

All Alters are shit.
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>>384815065
Why would you support an industry like gacha. Buy art or a figure or something if you want to support your wife.
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>>384815237
>What's wrong with addiction?
I'm not even going to dignify your shitpost with a proper response.
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>>384815256
Alter is the gameplayfag choice.
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>>384814880
I'll pick the one that has historical and medical records of her trial that attest she is a pure virgin

I'm not picking the slut that fucked her student and bore him a child
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>>384815039
What stops him from buying a figure of her, commissioning art of her and throwing money at the gacha for her? Nothing, but his lack of desire of doing the former.
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>>384815065
>What a useless way to spend your time.
What do you mean? I can think you're a retard while doing other things. In fact it seems like you're the one sitting here getting mad people are laughing at your poor spending habits.

Sheesh, get that chip off your shoulder.
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>>384803791
Okay.
Also gaming industry has been dead for a while.
Enjoy your garbage games built to pander to SJWs, weebs and god knows who else.
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>>384813697
Honestly, I was really tempted to just focus entirely on Team Liz. It means I would only need to throw quartz at Liz rate-ups, and so could "complete" my team a lot easier.

>>384814108
>So who are you guys most excited to get in the English version?
Tamamo is my top choice.

The various versions of Cu, Marie, and Liz would be nice to see as well.

>>384814880
>you may pick only one
>Scath
>angry whore who Gilles used as a cocksleeve
Hmm...
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>>384815335
There is nothing wrong with addiction. Life is worthless without passion and addiction is a manifest of it. People who are not addicted to something are just dead men waiting to be buried
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>>384815408
It's kind of sad when the best argument you can make in favour of gacha is that it's not literally physically harming him.
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>>384814114
Its not about having money.
Its about having disposable income and what to do with it, like if you have enough money for everything, you will probably want to spend some of it on something that makes you happier, its just a normal behavior.

I meant, most of the expensive stuffs out there is just stupid stuffs like gacha shit, but suits your preferences better.

What I would never understand is the people who clearly have less income but still buy expensive things they don't need.
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>>384814927
>you could spend it on just about anything that isn't
So what? Why spend the money going towards something you're interested in on something you're not, presuming that neither option have any negative impact on your standing?

This whole argument seems to boil down to you imposing your own subjective sense of worth on another guy who's not in need of help.
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>>384815273
Maybe he likes the rest of the game as well? It's not like the game is just the gacha. The part that is released in the west is pretty shit, but the game from London on is considered to be pretty solid if you like Type Moon material.
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>>384815408
Honestly this is the same argument that gambling addicts use.

>I can use my money for so many other things, but I just don't want to! Gambling is much more fun!
I pray you don't have kids, because I've seen so many families get destroyed by shithead parents justifying their gambling addictions.
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>>384814683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_h0_l8QNHY
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>>384814029
>FEH over anything.
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>>384815620
Who hurt you anon?
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>>384815542
>but the game from London on is considered to be pretty solid if you like Type Moon material.
You mean the story. And even then plenty of TM fans dislike it due to it turning everything to Marvel/DC power levels.
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>>384814880
Scat would probably sit there wishing for Cu to kill her already only to run away if that were to become a possibility.

Jeanne is CUTE!.
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>There are people who will justify spending 1000$+ on voice files to listen to while they grind instead of spending it one high quality art/figures/whatever of their waifu

Whales are fucking disgusting
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>>384815527
>What I would never understand is the people who clearly have less income but still buy expensive things they don't need.
Knew a guy like that. He came from a well off family and could have been a lawyer, instead joined the navy and constantly pulled out loans and spent all his pay on shit like designer watches and guitars. Guy had no concept of value and never haggled for shit in foreign ports.
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>>384815697
No one.

I just don't like seeing other people hurt their families. It ends up badly for everyone, not just the addicts.

I pray for your future family, Anon.
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>>384815620
We're on 4chan, we aren't having kids unless you're someone that doesn't belong here.

>turning everything to Marvel/DC power levels.

Those people are idiots then, as that happened long before FGO.
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>>384815620
Children are supposed to take care of themselves. Americans are too spoilt to realize it. The parents can do whatever they want, none of the kids right to interfere with them. Children are supposed to start working at 8 not 18
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>>384815527
I just feel at certain line you might as well just burn it and gambling is that line.

>>384815538
It's about getting value for your dollar. For 1000 he could probably commission art of her and possibly even hire her VA to say a few lines and have his own personal version of his waifu.

>>384815542
He likes a slightly above average mobage so much he wants to spend 1k because of the gameplay? Nah man.
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>>384815803
This.

>mfw make almost 100k/yr but instead build my figure collection and have something to show for it instead of gambling away at a casino like these other Anons
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>>384815620
Did he fucking hurt anyone? Is his family now starving because he blew 1k for his waifu? Is he now living on the streets begging for money because he now only has $109,000 to work with for that year instead of 110,000?
How can you come to that fucking conclusion?
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>>384815829
I have a worse sibling that spends his inheritance on CSGO stuff and car that will fuck him and his family over years.

You can't be too stupid in this earth I believe.

>>384815948
>I just feel at certain line you might as well just burn it and gambling is that line.
That is correct. You have disposable income, you spend it on stupid things to make you happy, in my opinion you're an okay person.

But in the other hand, if you buy tertiary stuff while having not-so-disposable income, you, are, a dumb faggot.
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>>384815803
We are talking to people that spend hours playing a garbage game just to see some badly translated text or runes they can't fucking read because there's a sprite of the character they masturbate to in game.
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>>384815864
>Those people are idiots then, as that happened long before FGO.
There are plenty of old school TM fans back from before the universe was all about power levels.

Still doesn't change the fact that FGO has cemented this new direction and to make the fallacious appeal to populism that everyone likes it is silly.
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>>384803791
>Hating on the free market
Commishitter
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>>384803791
Normie it is then fagboi
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>>384816086
Like I said, my heart goes out to your future family, Anon. Hopefully they don't grow up with a shithead gambling addict.
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>>384815948
>He likes a slightly above average mobage so much he wants to spend 1k because of the gameplay? Nah man.

He spends because of the waifu, he stays because of the game/story.

Sure, you can play this game without spending a dime and enjoy all of that stuff. But if you want to enjoy it with your particular waifu/husbando enough that you'll spend an amount that is reasonable COMPARED TO YOUR INCOME, then sure whatever go ahead.

For me personally? I'd rather spend that money on mountain biking equipment. But I'm not going to cry and scream on the internet about someone else spending their disposable income on something I'm not going to spend it on.
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>>384816151
>FGO has cemented this new direction
That was actually Extella
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>>384815984
Oh get off your highhorse.
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wasting money on mobile games is already the norm for Japanese otaku. Why are western weebs so backwards? Stop your >muh ruining the game industry bullshit
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>>384816150
I enjoy F/GO, but I recognize it as a mediocre kusoge that is only good for killing time. If I ever get the itch I'll drop a few hundred on it for a gameplay centric character (ie. Merlin/Jeanne/Oz), but I won't justify or delude myself like the OP

>hurr it's only $1000 and I make a million dollars this isn't a waste of money durr
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>>384811959
I'm still mad they never made a sequel to that game. They rebalanced the cast and mechanics for the PSP version, but that was it. It was a lot of fun and had tons of great fanservice. Good OST, great graphics, and for an anime fighter it was clearly far superior to pretty much all other 3D anime fighters.
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>>384816313
Otaku are scum, they should just drown themselves and feed the fish.
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>>384816271
I don't think I'm crying and screaming, all my posts have been pretty reasonable. Gacha in particular just strikes me as very manipulative and shitty, almost cigarette tier.
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>>384816308
I hope your brainlet self realizes FGO predates Extella by more than a year.
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>>384805890
>I got like 5-10 minutes to kill
>Can't do something involving, but want to do something that still stimulates somewhat beyond sitting on my ass watching youtube
>Boot up F/GO, do a dailies map or work on the story a bit, do my free roll and maybe a friend roll if I gotten enough points passively.
>By the time I'm done I've killed enough time to start doing other things
I mean really it's ether this or youtube, and I'd take a game over watching someone playing a game any day.
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>>384816434
There is no need to even justify it ir delude yourself to others. If you want to spend money on thing then go ahead.
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>>384815948
Why are presuming that figures or art have any more inherent value than what he's already spending money on? I could understand if this was the difference between spending a given amount on a bootleg versus a rare figma or something, which is at least an example that can be objectively weighed. All these separate things that are being compared though? They're all equally void of actual use or function beyond appealing to anon's interests.
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>>384816579
You can also do things that aren't video games.
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>>384816309
It's just fact. Once the game servers shutdown in a year or two you'll have nothing to show for it except a fleeting sense of enjoyment that's more tied to the thrill of gambling than those pixels on your screen.

Me? I'll get to look at my pretty figures and if I ever get tired of them I'll sell them. Who knows, maybe if I get lucky they'll be worth more than when I bought them too!
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>>384816260
Wow you're projecting very hard here my friend. If we want to have a discussion here you should refrain from attacking me personally and just answer my arguments. By the way I'd never spend 1k on the mobile games/gambling, but I still believe there's nothing inherently wrong with gambling. It can be like paying to see a movie, it's a freetime activity that costs money and makes you feel that dopamine rush. It only gets bad if you can't control yourself, but then you might as well say movies are bad because some addict could just go 24/7 hours to the cinema and blow all his life savings there.
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>>384816562
Only release, Extella was in the works before hand, that is why Attila is a Extella servant not a GO one.
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>>384803791
Fate/GO is a game with a better story and gameplay than Fate/extella.
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>>384816685
In one case you are exchanging money for a product that you can use to decorate or do whatever waifufags do.

In the other you are exchanging money for the privilege or pulling a virtual slot machine. If you could directly buy waifu cards I would consider it less of a waste of money, but this shit is just abusive.
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>>384816151
That's still a stupid stance. Tsukihime and Melty Blood etc started out with batshit fucking power levels to begin with. Fate simply carried it on (And started out pretty crazy itself) through a large number of adaptations before we got to FGO. FGO's direction shouldn't surprise anyone.

> the fallacious appeal to populism that everyone likes it
There is virtually nothing in the history of the universe that everyone likes outside of maybe clean air. But people do largely seem to like FGO's writing after Nasu takes it over.

The people that try to draw some kind of line in TM works and decry everything after it are mostly hipsters.
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>>384803791
fuck off its anime so im not a normie REEEEEEEE
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>>384816685
>Why are presuming that figures or art have any more inherent value than what he's already spending money on?
Figures are physical, real world objects, with resale value.

The gacha you gambled on? $1000 isn't even guaranteed to get you your favourite character and once the game shuts down in a year it's gone for good.

I don't care how you spend your money, but to make the argument that they are equivalent is not inherently insincere, but incredibly delusional.
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Reminder that Scathach is literally Aoko with a slighty different color hair so yes you have been fapping to Aoko all the time which was clearly Nasu's intend.
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>>384816790
Yeah but you're still a loser at the end of the day weeb ;^)
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>>384817015
>Figure
>resale value

Yeah, haha, all my investments over in this cabinet...
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>>384816858
Anon, I'm not interested in having a discussing with you when you don't even know what "projecting means.

I'll end it here since you're starting to take this personally, but again I hope your family doesn't suffer over your addiction.
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>>384817015
The game isn't shutting down though, and it's always possible to sell accounts if you don't want them anymore.
I bet you're the type of moron who thinks TF2 items don't have real-world value.
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>>384809301
>No? Tamomo is clearly a cut above
Actually, Kiyohime is even better with Merlin since his Buster buff also increase the already insane NP generation she has on her Buster and they deal by default as much if not more damage than Tamamo's thanks to her ME EX passive and on top of that she synergizes with Jeanne Alter's attack buff. If you can grail Kiyo to 90 she's better despite having lower stats.
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>>384817206
Most of /v/ doesn't actually use projecting correctly.
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>>384816690
Like what? Stretch? Jumping Jacks? Fucking rolling peaces of paper into balls and tossing them into a trashcan? I don't know what the fuck you've got in mind anon, but honestly Video Games for my ADHD mind is the most stimulating time killer on the planet.
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>>384816562
Nasu only jumped to write in F/GO after he finished Extella plot, is why the first chapters were Sakurai and Higashide.
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>>384816937
>Tsukihime and Melty Blood etc started out with batshit fucking power levels to begin with.
Not really. The focus was never on the power levels and aside from bullshit like Type Earth, it was mainly rock paper scissors bullshit.

Even Fate wasn't about power levels. It was about exploring a theme and the shounenshit in the background was just that - background fluff. It wasn't until the later games like Extella and FGO that pushed servants and their super cool powers and fights that the narrative began to suffer.
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>>384817015
>Resale value
You wouldn't care for it if you are really into waifuism

>shut down in a year
It's taking 40k/day with a team of 3 college feeding text into google translate

>Gone for good
This can be the same argument as going to theater. Why not buy DVD then?
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>>384817206
>calls me a retarded gambling shithead addict
>wow you're taking it personally here, I run away here
Though you're right that this discussion won't lead anywhere. I'll just consider this as my win.
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>>384817015
>permanence is the only measure of value that an object can have
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>>384815831
Jokes on you I ain't having kids.
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>>384817171
>tfw my Emilia-tan is actually worth more now
Still not gonna sell her though.
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My only problem with FGO is how garbage Septem is. Why is Boudica, the queen was literally raped to death alongside her daughters under Nero's order, concerned with Nero's feelings at all or even working alongside her?
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>>384817283
>The game isn't shutting down though
>localized mobage not based on an IP popular in the west or called PAD.
>lasting a year.
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>>384817283
The game will shutdown at some point and I will bet you earlier than the JP version as is the case with all localized mobage.

>and it's always possible to sell accounts
Yes, because the $50 you get for the account makes up for the $1000 you spent rolling for your waifu.

>>384817284
I thought Kiyohime is a Berserker?
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>>384810546
>Just want Cu and Media
>Forever get Proto and Gilles
I WANT TO DIE. I'M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR 4* CRAP HERE, JUST SOME USEFUL 3*.
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>>384816151
I blame Sakurai.
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>>384817680
>Fate
>not popular in the West
lmao
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>>384817376
> their super cool powers
Did we read the same Tsukihime and Fate Stay Night? Both of them had endless wankery over super cool powers and power levels. There must be at least 100 pages worth of description of how powerful and dangerous noble phantasms are in FSN

> that the narrative began to suffer.
Entirely subjective, especially with FGO's Nasu written parts.

Shit like Extella and Apocrypha that had other authors (hacks) are a different story of course.
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>>384817623
Different writer, who event went back and apologized for Septem.
>>384817723
Her summer version is Lancer.
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>>384817381
>You wouldn't care for it if you are really into waifuism
No, but resale value means inherent value a mobage doesn't have.

>This can be the same argument as going to theater.
Even better - pirate instead. But people usually go to theatres for the experience so unless you have an IMAX bunker somewhere that I can borrow, you're awful at analogies.
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>>384817723
Swimsuit Kiyo is lancer.
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>>384817171
They have though. If you left them untouched of course.
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Figure collecting is great because you can build a collection that can be shown off on displays, and then down the road much of the figures you bought (if you bought the good stuff) can go for the price you spent or more on the aftermarket. I would rather buy figures than invest anyday because figures can bring me joy the entire time I have them, and then help me in a pinch if I ever need it.
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>>384817409
>He still thinks he's winning internet arguments
Sad!

>>384817623
>oncerned with Nero's feelings at all or even working alongside her?
She's more concerned with making sure the timeline isn't destroyed. Same reason why I can hate your guts but I'll team up with you to save my country.
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>>384818073
They can also ensure that you never get laid and that anyone entering your home thinks you're a serial killer.
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>>384817723
FGO has a team of three people doing next to nothing to keep the game alive.
As long as it's pulling a profit the game ain't going anywhere.
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>>384817918
>He can't even read through an entire post without shitposting
Like I said, there were always power levels but they were always subdued and left at the wayside.
Tsukihime had less concrete powers and more RPS.
Even a decade later people are still discussing Fate, but most of the discussion is on the themes such as heroism and Shirou's character, not the power levels.

F/GO? Take one look at the general or /a/ and tell me if it isn't just endless servant and power level wanking.
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1. I didn't and will never spend a single cent in this game
2. It's a fun way to test my luck
3. Fuck off you're not my mom nigger
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How do you even get caster pieces in this game. been playing since it released and have only gotten 5 of them
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Is now a good time to play? What 5* should I try to get in a roll?
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>>384818324
I'm going to seduce your mom then get a sex change then tell you to quit gacha. What now.
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>>384818331
Why don't you try /fgog/ or /fgogalter/? They have guide up. Even r/fgo has guide pinned
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>>384818331
Wednesday and Sunday Daily's
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>>384818509
Depends on the version.
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You guys are gonna try to get /bestdadever/ right?
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>>384803791
They are not even games, you just buy stuff
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>>384818513
Heh nice try but I dont even listen to my mom
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>>384818331
Farm the 30AP dailies. Your guaranteed Atleast one piece, but usually get like 2 pieces and a void dust.
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>>384803791
>Mobile phone gacha
>F2P every day
There, how autistic you have to be to get butthurt about games you only play for 15 minutes?
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>>384818285
I read your post, I just disregarded it because it's bullshit.

Fate Stay Night's power levels are in no way subdued or left at the wayside. Tsukihime's either. You think Fate power level arguments on /a/ are wanking NOW? Did you even FUCKING SEE Fate threads a decade ago? Holy fucking shit you are clueless. Those things have actually gotten drastically tamer.

The only part you're right about is that people are discussing Fate based more on the themes now, but that's only because there has been over a decade of power level wankfests on Stay Night, Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai (CAN SHIKI KILL SERVANTS? COULD GILGAMESH BEAT SUPERMAN?and finally such things have moved on to fresher pastures thanks to the new characters.
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>>384803791
Mobile gaming is the future eat shit you dumb pc fag sitting alone in his basement playing some shitty moba
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>>384803791
pls dont post pictures of my wife.
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>>384818285
>F/GO? Take one look at the general or /a/ and tell me if it isn't just endless servant and power level wanking.
Let's ignore the fanbase itself has been that shit for decades
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>1/2 AP dailies are over
I fucked myself by not going in harder didn't I? I'm only level 66.
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>>384819009
Yeah you did
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>>384819009
Only if you didn't use the opportunity to grind up your servants too
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>>384818894
Are you an roman citizen?
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>>384819009
>>384819113
>Phone crashes every other battle
>Only hit level 50 by the end of it all
On one hand I feel like I got fucked, on the other hand I got all of my set servents to their current caps and was able to ascend quite a few of them as well. I can pretty much not rely on a carry friend unit for the 40AP dailies now, and getting past the story stuff is a joke.
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Joke is on you, my favorite Fate character is free anyways.

>>384805505
BE is hot garbage.

>>384818804
Forget killing servants, Shiki needed to rape the maids
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>>384819328
This isn't a hard game, and it's not a PvP game. You can manage regardless. It just might take you a little while longer.

Story progression is easy as shit until Camelot, and you have more than enough time to make up for any slacking right now.

Camelot, however, is when they realize that they've been going easy on us and it's time for them to take the kid gloves off.
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I sold my account and now I kinda regret it
The shitty game grew on me
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>>384819592
>That battle in the Summer rerun with saber crabs
>Swimsuit Artoria doing 1 damage
>EA doing 200
>Lancer Liz actually doing the most damage because curse
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>>384819592
Speaking of Camelot? Didn't DW finally optimize the sandstorms? It's a shame that NAfags won't have to put up with the huge FPS drops.
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>>384817153
Scat > Aoko
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>>384819725
You're me except that I gave mine away last week. I wanna play it again but the constant rerolling for a 5* is stopping me.
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>>384819759
>tfw I managed to roll four of these CEs
Glad I finally had an opportunity to make them useful for once in that quest.
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>>384803791
Finally, someone gets it. The rise of mobileshit on /v/ is revolting, with only e-celeb worship being worse
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>>384819765
NAfag's still don't have the updated battle sprites. What makes you think they will imperilment the optimized sandstorms before then?
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>>384819918
Pretty sure there are people still just giving out accounts with single 5*s in NA. Only the double or triple 5* are worth anything by this point.
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>>384819113
>>384819137
>>384819328
I got my servants ascended, my concern is max AP and ability to farm. I just learned what Nero Fest is and it looks like it's coming early.
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>>384820041
>NAfag's still don't have the updated battle sprites.
They have some.
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>>384817680
The entire staff for the western version is three (3) fucking people. It's incredibly easy to sustain.
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>>384815387
I heard she had really good boobs, too.
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>>384820112
Yeah but my autism demands that my login streak matches my total.
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>>384817153
Red haired Aoko is among the best Type Moons so it was only natural I would find Scathach the best too.
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>>384820131
Nerofest will give you all of the monster mats you need.

Moon Goddess and Halloween will give you a lot of the statues and monuments you need, although Halloween will be a pretty good wait while Moon Goddess should be directly after Nerofest. You might have to grind Saber/Lancer/Caster/Zerker if you can't wait for that.

What you've missed out the most on was master/character xp to get your AP cap up, building up a QP bank and stocking mana prisms for Da Vinci in a few months. You can make up for all of those, it'll just take a while longer.
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>>384820041
>some of the animation updates were implemented
>a bunch of others that were completed before NA FGO launched weren't included, seemingly at random
This triggers me.
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>>384820458
The quality pains me. So many faps to the Seibah one, though.
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>>384820558
Which one are the ones not added in US?
Medea, Cu, Medusa, Liz, Robin and Alter?
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Anyone else here actually tried playing both western and Japanese mobile games? I thought the Japanese style of encouraging people to gamble for rare characters was already exploitative enough but western mobile games take it to a new level:
>as a F2P player, there's no way in hell you can even compete on the same level as paying players
>game shoves ads in your face every 5 minutes
>valuable materials required for progression can be outright purchased in large quantities
>game is designed to require these purchases by putting massive progression walls that would otherwise require inhuman amounts of grinding
>F2P players can't even hope to get lucky
Gacha players should honestly feel lucky, most of those games are at least designed so even some unlucky fucker with no SSRs can still clear content, with FGO being especially kind to F2Ps.
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>>384820558
They started with a clueless skeleton crew.

That said, it looks like they made a boatload of money during the Gil rate up and are starting to get their shit together. UMU is now actually translated as UMU, not MMHMM.
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>>384820883
>UMU is now actually translated as UMU, not MMHMM
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>>384820458
>>384820734
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>>384820874
>tfw you haven't spent a cent and still have ten SSRs
>more than half of them are limited
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>>384820874
From what i have seen a lot of western mobage go down the path of "you can wait 48 hours for this thing to complete or give us 5 bucks to instant complete."
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>>384821115
Are you me?
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>What's that smell, anon?
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>>384821115
Nice EX rank luck
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>>384820883
have they fixed the NP translations yet?
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>>384821307
I am doing a BBQ
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>>384820874
Its present in computer games too, does anyone else remember Adventure Quest and its clones, how if you didn't pay any money you would need a literal week into to progress in later stages?
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>>384821362
Knight of owner?
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>>384821385
Is pretty much any F2P game nowadays, the platform doesn't matter anymore.
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>>384821385
Don't forget shit like Warframes.
>you can totally spend weeks on end grinding to grind to grind some more in the hopes of getting these super cool things
>Or just pay us to get them now
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>tfw my favorite Servant servant is Medea
>tfw she's a good 3* Servant

I guess it pays to have more niche tastes. I wish she were my wife.
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>>384821660
>they finally updated the card icon too
Neat.
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So, a Saint, yes?
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>>384822195
Why is he just a 4 star?
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So I want to save up for Merlin and Jeanne Alter. Is it feasible to get enough quartz to roll for them by then and are they far enough I can get them both?
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>>384822207
I really wish her NP was Arts instead of Buster. Also that her damage wasn't so fucking low.
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>>384822372
If is same schedule as JP, you have like a year and then half a year.
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>>384822406
Is that the only thing you wish for when thinking about her, anon-kun?
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>>384822459
So that should be fine, right? Guess I'll just use my free summon tickets to tide myself over while saving for them with free quartz.
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>>384821667
That's true, and it infuriated me to no extent as a child. Eventually led to me only playing games I knew that I was getting almost all content up front with just one payment or just regular ol' flash games.
>>384821737
Man that shit was always ridiculous, especially when they tied the really cool gamebreaking stuff to money players only. It was even worse when the game had PvP and you would have to play against paid players all the damn time.
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>>384821660
I was referring more to them only being part translated e.g. Excalibur instead of Excalibur ~Sword of Promised Victory~.
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>>384820547
Alright thanks, much better getting tips from someone than scouring a guide or google.
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>>384822626
>So that should be fine, right?
Depends if you are happy just getting them at NP1 or want the mythological NP5. And luck of course.
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>>384822529
Yes.
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So outside of finishing story quests, is there any way to get grails? Are they ever given out during events?

I want to get my Medea to max.
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>>384822851
Is that so.
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>>384822825
NP5 is oil tycoon tier shit. The game should be plenty doable with base servants.
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>>384822319
Same reason why Hercules, who's twice as strong, is also a 4*.
Not as popular.
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>>384822626
>>384822459
You won't have the same schedule as JP. JP has Nero in September, NA has it in July. You should start saving them now.
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>>384822951
_No
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>>384823010
JP also launched 29 of July and not in June
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>need to save for Dantes
>want to roll for Nero next week
What do?
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>>384823146
And they also have 1 month of absolutely no content. NA has Gil and Nero before their 1st month end
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>>384823234
Use the summon tickets they were handing out like crazy for free? You DID save those, right?
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>>384823282
So you are saying Halloween event in September?
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>>384823381
They likely will keep those calendar-based event on schedule but everything else would get speed up
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When is she going to be added?
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>>384823518
>she
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>>384823461
That sounds terrible because the pokedex will be fucked with holes. Not to mention that if it catches the JP version, your guys will quit the moment you have to wait for content as much as we do.
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>>384823950
>JPfags are still mad that their general is dead and dying
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When is the best girl going to be added?
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>>384824027
>laughing at your own future.
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>>384823461
They'll speed up but not by a whole lot I'd wager.

We're still probably 20 months out at least from getting to where JP is.

>>384823950
In the end they'll do what keeps their income high. The money will slump if there are gaps between the events with nothing happening and no new content. The western market is not nearly as content to grind endlessly as the JP one is after all.

On the plus side, maybe having a thriving western playerbase as well will inspire them to boost the budget and push out more content in general.
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>>384823282
We're going to get the Prisma event in August right after dango ends.
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>>384824372
>maybe having a thriving western playerbase as well will inspire them to boost the budget and push out more content in general.
If being one of the top grossing games for 2 years wasn't enough, i have many doubts the Westen version will have that impact.

In the end, time will tell.
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>>384822319
1. Popularity
2. Gotta have some popular characters be 4 instead of 5, like EMIYA, the most popular character in the Fate series according to the most recent poll.
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>>384803791
I've never played any Fate/ game besides "Extra"

Will I be able to enjoy this gacha game?
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>>384825723
He's my husband.
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>>384825903
Depends on if you developed a waifu in Extra
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>>384825481
You wish. They can move Extella ahead because it's not a full event.
Wait, how will they give out the anime japan 2016 CEs?
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>>384825707
Currently it is just NA. If they open it to the world it would be much bigger.
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>>384826023
Prisma Illya's event is in the English credits. It's translated and ready for the movie release.
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this is official art
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>>384825707
I think it's less making wild profits and more when those wild profits start to decline and dry up that will encourage them to get their shit together
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>>384824283
But I am laughing at your present
You really should merge with us. The fake has surpassed the original
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>>384826168
What a slutty nun.
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>>384826178
Or they close it and only keep the profitable servers.
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>>384826010
Umu girl
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>>384818804
Damn, now I kinda want to see BERSERCAR servant
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So who's the best girl and why is Nito?
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>>384822072
Removing enemy buffs is remarkably handy.

>>384822909
Grails are only awarded for completing story chapters, and for specific events. You only get one each, so there are a very limited number in the game so far. There is no way to "farm" them.

Nerofest should be handing one out, assuming you can complete everything.
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FGO is the most bizzare gatcha shit on the market because 5* actually can be outshined be 1/2/3*.

Hassan,RobinHood and Fake Assassin (fucking 1*) can dish out the biggest damage in the game later once you level them up.

The only true 5* everyone wants is Waver because he has skill that fills up Super Attack,that's it.
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>>384827076
>Curse Arm and Kojiro
That's mostly because the release assassins are pretty bad in damage and star generation. Jack out performs both of them.
Even then, you are right low tier servants are still useful, even if you need some specific set ups in some cases.
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>>384827076
Yeah try using that team in Nerofest and you find out why 5*exist
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>>384826702
>Dark skin
>All that skin
>Fucking purple hair up the wazoo
>Insta Death to make grinding EZ
>Even without Death procs still is one of the stronger casters by raw atk
I mean, she's got a lot going for her unless you're fighting servants.
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>>384827763
You forgot her CE is pretty good too.
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What's gonna be harder to get, Altera or Nero?
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Gachafags btfo
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>>384827076
5* as a whole are more versatile and you'll wish you had a bunch of them and 4*s during the second nerofest.

Also everyone wants Merlin these days. As long as he exists the game is a joke.
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>>384827076
>Fake Assassin (fucking 1*) can dish out the biggest damage in the game later once you level them up.
No. There is a limit to how much a specific character can accomplish. Sure, Sasaki is great at pumping out stars and dealing crits with them, but he isn't going to be outdamaging Heracles or Jeanne Alter with that.

There are some low-star servants which are remarkably good. Georgios and Arash seem to stand out as still impressive, even at higher levels. But there is a raw stat advantage that the higher star servants have, and a low-star servant needs to have something significant to still stand out.

Mostly, they are good at lower levels due to the stat difference not mattering that much.

>>384828245
>What's gonna be harder to get, Altera or Nero?
Altera
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>>384827076
Eh FGO is hardly the only gacha game like that, there are others where the lower rarity units or even the free ones outperform some of the higher rarity ones because of how flawed their kit is.

It's also because of how these things are designed, even bronze scissors can be better than gold at beating paper.
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I play Brave Exvius regularly. Gameplay's decent enough for a mobile game and I like the unit variety. FF nostalgia is nice, too.
Also the only money I've ever spent on this game was when they offered some decent-ish bundles (compared to their regular currency costs) for 1€ and 13€ respectively. I don't think this is too crazy when it's spent on a game that I've played for nearly half a year at this point.

There are obviously addicts out there, like one dude spending $3000 on a banner to get a particular unit, which he didn't even fucking get. Meanwhile a mate got two of those fuckers from daily pulls. But such is gacha life.
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>>384827076
>Hassan,RobinHood and Fake Assassin (fucking 1*) can dish out the biggest damage in the game later once you level them up.
Not really. Plenty of 5*s outdamage them. They also don't even come close to Jeanne's retarded damage output.
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How should I be using Altera?
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>>384830308
Well.
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>>384830308
Have her beat the enemy till it dies.
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>>384830308

use all 4 of her holes
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>>384830394
They wouldn't die even if I killed them.
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>>384830308
back of the knee
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>blowed 120 quartz on the gil
>got shit only
>people are talking about the banners here
>realise that I was pulling from the normal summon
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>384831973
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>>384831973
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>>384831973
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>>384831973

If it makes you feel better, it's not like your chance of pulling not-shit is higher in the Gil banner. "Rate up" just means that if you happen to roll a 5-star (which sill has the same 0.1% chance), it has a higher chance of being Gil than other 5-star servants.
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>>384832617
Gil was exclusive to that banner, however.
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>>384831973
I'm not sure how you could have made such a mistake, anon.
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>>384831973
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>>384832783
Unless you rolled a 5* with that quartz you wouldn't have rolled Gil anyway.
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where the fuck is my hassan

i haven't seen him ever but i keep getting fucking shotalexanders in my friend rolls
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how yall niggas play a gatcha game with 1% drop rate for a 5 star and boring ass gameplay is beyond me
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>>384834408
>playing a bleach mobage
Looks like fun anon
[sarcasm]
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>>384803791
Plebs will always enjoy plebeian things. Convienence, ease of use, and (in the case of video games) pseudo-accomplishments will always carry mass appeal, especially in this ever softening lethargic society.
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>>384834779
hey atleast i can control my character and not just stare at a portrait/sprite that i spent $100 to get
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>>384803791

Fe heroes has actually gameplay tho. I mean it's nothing amazing but it's more than most gacha games out there. Also it's stupidly generous, i haven't spent a cent on it and I've been playing since launch.
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>>384835518
Please, if i wanted to control a character in a shitty flash game I'd go to miniclip. The spirte artwork in F/GO is godly, especially the characters that have huge milkbags. The jiggle is real.
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>>384835907
>Calling that watered down trash gameplay.

LOL
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Once I got a great manga app on my phone I never looked back to gatcha shit.
Far better time killer.
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>>384836075
except you dont need to play the game to just look at the sprites, as big of a thirsty virgin as i am if i wanted to look at milkbags i can read a doujin or watch some porn, i dont want it to be the only appeal in my game
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>>384836396
It's not the only appeal though, building your team to fight tough bosses with some strategy, and an interesting story in the later parts, combined with very good sprite work and animation. It's just a high qiality package overall. I appreciate jiggling milkbags wherever i find them
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Is it worth to roll at the Nero event? Or should I save my quartz for later?
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>>384837317
Do you have a character you absolutely want that will be released later? Don't roll.
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>>384837317

If you like Nero or any of the other rate ups, then go for it. Waifu beats gameplay everytime. If you have a character you prefer, then save it for them.
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>>384837097
the sprites animate like fucking adventure quest, i dont know how you consider that good looking. its some of the cheapest animation/sprites you can make where you dangle the limbs around instead of drawing new frames
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>>384803791
Hey OP. Just came to this thread to say that i'm glad people like you who can still see the cancer that Gatcha is still exist on /v/. 2010-era /v/ would never tolerate this, and yet here we are with 24/7 mobile game generals on the front page.
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I'm fucked, aren't I?
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>>384838123
you won't get to the second one
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>>384803791
Pls gib me my swimsuit Nero at the beginning of the next month.
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>>384837784
The early sprites are like that, sure. I assume you are talking about the NA release so far? The servants released at and after the America chapter have great animations. And the older ones get updated.
If adventure quest looked like this i would be playing it all the time.
https://youtu.be/wFb3pY-pgOI
The bleach game looks more like what you are describing man.
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>>384837679

I like Nero for saying "umu" everytime I pick her cards and at the end of the battle she pronounces a word so ridiculously but I wonder if there are much stronger sabers coming later.
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>>384838424
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>>384838628
I'm glad I got Gil. I guess I'll save up for Scat, Ishtar, and King Hassan

Oh, and Shiki
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>>384838424

There definitely is better Sabers, that's for sure. That said, she's up there for 4* Sabers. Sabers in general aren't that amazing, though.

>>384838073

2010 era /v/ was fucking awful, though.
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>can't play because of my shitty 6 year old phone and emu was blocked

Being a NEET was a mistake.
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>>384838830
2010 era /v/ was above playing gatchashit. If it was awful then god help us because i don't know how to describe what /v/ currently is.
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/v/ was never good
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>>384839018
Who cares, 2010 /v/ was above DLC too but here we are.
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>>384839156
touche
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>>384839018

Who gives a shit what 2010 era /v/ was for or against. It was still a shitpile of memes and shitposting. It was literally /b/ 2.0 for 2-3 years. There's still shitposts, but nowhere near the unbearable levels of 2010 /v/. Why you choose that period of time to get nostalgic is beyond me.
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>>384838830
If sabers aren't so important gameplay wise I can level up whoever I want right?
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>People have gotten to almost master level 100.
I guess my autism is simply not strong enough to do nothing but farm 14 days straight during the 1/2 ap event.
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>>384839156
>>384839524
Yeah fuck having standards i guess let's just eat this corporate fucking slop while we're in the line for slaughter. At least i have my five star waifu right? Who cares about the industry anyway.
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>>384839524
as opposed to being /pol/ 2.0 for 2-3 years?
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>>384838265
in terms of sprites im far too used to shit like skull girls and blazblue, i cant look at any of fate/go's visuals and be remotely impressed besides the splash art

maybe you are mistaking VFX as animation? look at the way the characters move, its literally their limbs flailing while the body remains stationary. thats just their animation style where its easy to cut corners and make something cheap and people eat it up for titties.

look at skull girls for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f85XY8ePa0E
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>>384839675

/pol/ is shit, but better than /b/.

>>384839649

Why the fuck do you give so much of a shit what other people play and do? It has exactly 0 bearing on you. 2010 /v/ mentality on goddamn display. In before half-cocked reply about how every game is gonna have gaccha shit now. Which even you know is not fuckin true.
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>>384839802
Yeah of course, skullgirls is great and fluid. I like both. The animations in F/GO are smooth enough that I don't see it as awful paper sprites. I wish they put the gacha money into sprites like skullgirls. I don't think it's all vfx. I agree that the older sprites ate largely like this. Some of the sprites include moving 3d objects like Passionlip and cleopatra. And they do have smooth animation segments in the Noble phantasms, for the newer servants like Meltlilith and BB. They have improved alot.
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>>384839649
>just eat this corporate fucking slop
uhh welcome to video gaming ever since the introduction of the xbox 360 generation? you think gatcha shit is an issue when theres copy and pasted soccer and football games topping sales charts with clash of clans topping global records every year? this is the state of gaming, i don't think you even know what you would want from the industry if they asked you
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>>384839649

>Yeah fuck having standards

And furthermore, fuck your standards. It means fucking nothing to me. Just like my standards mean nothing to you. Buying NFL [CURRENT YEAR] is below my standards, but I'm not gonna go autistic on somebody buying the latest version every year. The fact you can't see that is a sign of your autism, not others.
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>>384839649
>Who cares about the industry anyway
I sure as fuck don't. I'm not a working in it or making stock investments into it.
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>>384803791
Nero is 4* you dumbass. Didn't read your comment.
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>>384803791
I understand Jeanne, but who's actually blowing thousands of dollars on fucking Nero?
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Who else /saving for Christmas gacha/ here?
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>>384841295
They would have just rerolled for jeanne at the beginning
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>>384841714
Oh right, forgot about Story unlocks.
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>>384841295
I'm going to reroll for nero and jeanne.
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It's worth the money.
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>>384841514

I will have my daughter or I will be homeless. These are the only 2 possible outcomes.
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>>384841514
Me. I already have almost everyone I want. I just need a good Assassin.
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>>384842083
You won't be able to get Nero unless you clear Septem every time.
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>>384805784
>not already having Attila
what a useless faggot
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>>384842365
Thats why I'm waiting till nerofest. You don't need to beat the story for that.
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>>384842542
Yeah disregard that I suck cocks, realized after i posted. Good luck, may you get what you want in minimal rerolls
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>>384842108
>actually paying for that treehouse translated trash
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>>384842108
It's really not.
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What is the drop rate for Nero at the event?
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>>384811262
It's out on PC next week, buy it again.
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>>384843053
Same as every other 4*
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>>384811262
Why can't they just make a normal Fate JRPG? That's all I ask for. Not a musou, or a game with a shitty rock-paper-scissors combat system.
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>>384843384
>Why can't they just make a normal Fate JRPG?
Because it would be good and they wouldn't be able to top it.
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>>384808320
>this is what the fortunate spend their money on
Life is suffering
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>>384842108
>tfw you forgot about this game so fast that you forgot to uninstall it from your phone
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>>384843384
>years later and BMW is still the best we have

Not that BMW is bad, but fucking hell, Type-Moon. Stop wasting so much potential.
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>>384843384
How can you make a JRPG out of Fate? The power levels contrasting from a human and a servant is too unbalanced.
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>>384843384
BMW is the closest your gonna get.
Sure Apoc was originally supposed to be a moba ala DOTA, with new servants being added in every once in a while.
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>>384817940
>resale value

When dealing with figures' resale value is basically the lottery these days. There is very little rhyme or reason on what will appreciate in value and what will drop like a rock. Very often it deals with outside factors people cannot control.
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>>384843916
>Apoc was originally supposed to be a moba ala DOTA

that actually sounds really cool, no lie
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>>384810089
If you're playing the american version you will never get BB in it, they aren't going to bring CCC event here
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>>384835518
Anyone who spends $100 on mobile shit already lost.
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>>384843883
If Blue Dragon and Neptunia could pull it off, I don't see why Fate couldn't.
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>>384843883
I'd imagine it would be a cross between pokemon and final fantasy. Humans are supposed to get wrecked by servants, that's the point. Maybe the AI controls your servant while you control the master and you can switch, like TWEWY.

My dream Fate game would be an online battle royale game. 14 players, half are servants, half are masters, and you just play out a grail war that would last for 10-30 minutes. You could even team up with a masterless servant if you lose yours (and vice versa). Dunno how command spells would work though. Probably as get-out-of-jail cards.
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>>384843883
Meh Fate/Extra is a JRPG dungeon crawler
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>>384844502
>Maybe the AI controls your servant while you control the master and you can switch, like TWEWY.
Masters should be like white mages and support roles at all times, either casting mediocre buffs or healing a little bit at a time. Servants should do 90% of the fighting and if an RPG is made that's the way to go, if not outright controlling the Servant 100% of the time.
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>>384844786
The only objection I have is that masters should be able to fight and kill other masters
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>>384844502
>Dunno how command spells would work though.

I don't get why Command Spells in vidya is such a hard concept for everyone. The entire idea to Servants in Fate is they want to win as badly as you do and will follow any order except those that go against their beliefs. Command Seals are used to force them against their beliefs. That's pretty easy to program into as a game mechanic, especially for a JRPG.
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>>384845110
>That's pretty easy to program into as a game mechanic, especially for a JRPG.
I agree. My question was how would you do command spells in a multiplayer game where someone else is controlling your servant? Do you just take control of them? But then you'd lose control of yourself and might be vulnerable.
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>>384845291
I'm assuming the Magus would go into hide and support on the low end. I don't see how they can balance this seeing how Servants can teleport and have mountain busting-tier physical abilities.
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>>384819137
I never got the mats I needed. I managed to get Waver to his second ascension, but I only got 1 of the golem pieces to ascend herc.

Also, holy shit does this game hate giving me basic caster gems, I'm got tons of the red gems but the blue ones almost never drop.
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>>384842254
Same, I'd really like a few Kaleidos though.
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>>384846013
when the fuck do I get a Hassan
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>>384846159
I've gotten him through 10-pull friend point summons
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>>384846360
I know "how" I want to know "when." I still haven't gotten him even though I've probably done over a hundred FP pulls by now
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>>384846159
Mine is NP 4/5, ever since half AP ended I've only been getting around 400 FP a day though, it sucks.
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>>384803791

I just want best saber.
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>>384846847
>Best Saber
Picture unrelated?
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>>384846847
King Arthur was a man????????????????
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One upside of gacha games is that it forced me to try to learn more valuable skills to earn more money.
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>>384847271
F/GO made me want to read fate. Already started the UBW route.
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>>384841514
Me I guess. This game is really boring with nothing to do so its not hard to not spend quartz.
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>>384838123

The Okita/Scat/Jack back-to-back banners are going to murder a lot of people.
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>>384815446
>implying scath didnt ride the dick of every pupil she trained
literal old hag compared to pure jeannu
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>>384803791
>There are legit people who have Jeannu at level 100, Gil at level 80, and others on high levels
h-how
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>>384850712
Dedication and love.
Time and Money
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I rolled a Waver + Saber + Kaleidoscope + Hercules a couple weeks back but haven't had time to play:
Is the free 4* pick promotion still on, and if so is it worth choosing a different 4* (in which case who?) or just another Herc to upgrade his NP?
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>>384850963
get the redman
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>>384850712
You see those 200 quartz that didn't get you anything? They just spent it on AP
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>>384851175
Cheers.
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>tfw you didn't get Gil so you had to settle for Nameless Faker instead
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which gachashit do i play if i want to kill myself fast, FGO or granblue?
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>>384852236
FGO, because the rates are so ass, and you will NEVER cuddle mashu at night.
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>>384850712
Stop lying on the Internet anon. There is only 3 Grail available. Current max lvl is 96. Also Gil is worthless, he is like near bottom tier along with Herc
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>>384852236
Granblue is a MMO fused with gachashit.
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>>384852458
>Stop lying on the internet
>says Gil and Herc are worthless

ok
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>>384852236
>GBF
Gacha game that somehow managed to be more grindy than MMO and RPG. Even ARPG like PoE and D3 has less grind than GBF
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>>384852798

Thats a bold faced lie, nothing has more grind than D3 because the grind is infinite
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