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>be an obscure game dev that's difficult to work with
>have ambitious and controversial ideas on game development but never trusted with the budget or manpower to fully realise them
>as a result take a very jaded and self-deprecating response to game development
>make objectively bad games that fail to sell well for a decade
>never the less develop a cult following due to subverting player expectations not only in story but in gameplay, breaking the fourth wall in quirky ways and taking a unique and interesting approach to characterisation
>even your fans will say your games are bad though
>critics have no mercy and critically pan your works with no mercy in reviews, many failing to complete more than one ending, even though you typically design games to provide more nuance, context, and even sometimes significant amounts of gameplay content in New Game+ modes.
>only reason square keeps giving you money to make games is because the producer for Dragon Quest is your bro and has faith in you and keeps threatening to quit if Square doesn't keep you fed, even if the budgets are wafer thin
>after a career of predominantly failure in spite of the passionate cult following you've created, the stars align and you're given a decent budget and a competent studio full of fans of yours to make a sequel to your most successful but still financially unsuccessful game, Nier
>Square is on your ass, to make something palatable to a wider audience but you still have a large degree of control
>All the stuff people like you for is there, but many aspects are toned down
>marketing focuses heavily on your quirky personality and game design
>Nier Automata goes on to become the sleeper hit of the year, far surpassing anyone's expectations
>old games start getting played more, fanbase expands hugely
>go from underappreciated industry failure to megastar in just one year
>Square has a lot of faith in you, which places more pressure on you to conform

What's next for Yoko Taro?
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Owning and managing a Mexican restaurant.
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>>384800149
Abandon Drakengard/Nier and give us a new franchise built from the ground up with full creative control.
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>>384800149
Mobile game development for the rest of his career.
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>>384800149
Stop making games because the games you make are shitty and subverting expectations doesn't make up for having to deal with your shit.
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>>384801434
Nier Automata is good though. Maybe not great, but good.
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>>384800432
Taco taro, nice Mexican restaurant in Guadalajara.
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>>384800149
You forgot that he got along very well with the platinum guys, hope it will have some future consequences.
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>>384800149
Fail in nier remaster,never make another game.
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>>384801615

What's the song that plays in the Forest Kingdom just before the A2 fight?
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>>384800149
didn't read but I hope he quits
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>>384801615
Nah it's great.
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>>384800149
Also recently reached 500k copies on steam. To give some sense of proportion, an important direct competitor like Berseria is still at 140k and it's from a much stronger brand.
Can someone post site that site that has the console sales?
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>>384800149
Square makes him fall for the open world meme.
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>>384802283
>>384802283
>>384802283

Please Respond
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>>384802932
post a gameplay clip where it's playing
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>I was never popular with girls, and had always run away into the imaginary world of anime and games to release my stress. If I were to separate the world into "light and darkness," I am clearly a part of the "darkness" category, and have been cursing people who have properly succeeded in life.
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>>384800149
>Be hack
>Team carries the game
>It's still shit
>Given a bigger budget and more competent team
>Now it's shiny shit
>People lapp it up

Really forces me to ponder
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>>384803253

This place
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>>384800149
>story
>in a video game
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>>384803402
>people who played it always praise the direction more than anything else.
>team carries the game
Yeah, really forces me to ponder about how you shitposters always regurgitate the most nonsensical idiocy to try shit on something. Isn't a life lived with your anus perpetually open a really shit one?

>>384803438
So just the track of that area? IIRC, it's just called "Forest Kingdom".
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>>384803943

Yeah I found it, sounds a little different than I remember, but whatever. Thanks.
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>>384801615
yeah nah its great
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>>384803943
They praise the direction because the only people with positive things to say about his games are his cult.
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>>384800149
Why'd you type all this? You completely fell for the meme you dumbfuck.
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>>384804093
there are like six variants of each track
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>>384804606

No wonder, well thanks again, now I have something to go on.
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>>384801615
Nah game is amazing. Too bad he had to tone down some shit but i guess he will be given more freedom and budget next time.
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>>384804709
Maybe this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p93KTqknXig
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>>384800149
>Producer for Dragon Quest is your bro
Yuji Horii? Source?
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>>384805215
>Yuji Horii
Producer, not creator. He's talking about Yosuke Saito.
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>>384805014

Yeah I think so.
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>>384805375
Seems his only involvement with DQ was the producer for DQX
I JUST WANT DQX SO BAD IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS
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Is SinoAlice any good for a mobile game?
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>>384805537
You fool, you'll summon Chenposter.
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>>384805645
I like Chenposter, he posts neat gameplay videos even if it as out of passive aggression.
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>>>384800149
>>384802012
http://www.dualshockers.com/nier-automata-sequel/
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>>384805643
Ask the general, some people were playing it last time that I checked it. Shit looks creepy and grindy.
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>>384806135
I will only support this if the NieR remake finally settles all the bullshit between gestalt and replicant
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What's with all the contrarian false flagging faggots in this thread?
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More games, hopefully. Or best case scenario an entirely new IP.
Nier: Automata is amazing and it's my first Yoko Taro game. I can see why he has a huge cult following.
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>>384806464
Was there any bullshit? If you were talking about the Gestalt references in the Automata weapon story, it was the localization team changing it, the original was about bro nier as usual, IIRC.
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>>384801615
No it really isn't. Its mediocre.
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>>384800149
tl;dr
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>>384806379
I watched a little bit, it looks weird as fuck
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>>384806780
it doesn't matter what you think it sold 1.5 million copies, it might sell 2 million by the end of its commercial life
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>>384806464
>>384806709
Replicant is canon. Nier Automata is confirmed to carry on from a novelisation called The Lost World, where bro Nier is the Nier that is featured.

Tbh I just want him to start a new franchise where most of the world building is in game, not in novelisations.
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>>384807171
I would rather have a new franchise as well, but if it has to be another NieR I'd like a complete remake of NieR so the west has the actual game
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>>384807035
>muh sales
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>>384807171
Automata features weapon stories from both versions.
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>>384807541
thats all it matters in capitalism retard
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>>384807420
I'd prefer a remake of DG1 and 3 where the gameplay isn't completely terrible.

Nier is already fine as is. Though I think Automata is pretty good as a conclusion to the Greater Drakengardverse, so I'd like a new IP. Equally autistic hopefully but built from the ground up with decent finances.
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>>384807171
>Replicant is canon.
I know, I wasn't sure about what confused that anon, Taro always cared about only Replicant and that's how it should be.

> where most of the world building is in game, not in novelisations.
Sadly, that's impossible. Even with Automata the multi-media thing is still working too well for square, recently they forced Taro to write a 6th concert, the next game will be another multi-media work for sure.

>>384807601
see
>>384806709
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>>384806685
>I can see why he has a huge cult following.
no you cant dude, his other games suck dick and im a huge taro cultist. drakengard 2 and 3 are hideous. the first one has interesting ideas but horrific execution. nier 1 is so fucking badly paced and uninteresting- by the time it gets good you'll have slogged through like 10-15 hours.
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>>384807816
I wasn't confused? I was saying I want a version of the game as it was intended in the west rather than a gestalt remake
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>>384807896
>im a huge taro cultist.
>his other games suck dick
>drakengard 2 and 3 are hideous.

>Drakengard 2
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>>384807979
>>384807896
We can both agree that 3 is his worst game, but 2 is the worst game in the entire franchise
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>>384807896
>huge taro cultist
>doesn't know that Drakengard 2 wasn't made by Taro
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>>384807912
My bad, I thought that you were confused about which was the canon version.

> I was saying I want a version of the game as it was intended in the west rather than a gestalt remake
Same here, man.
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>>384801615
nier automata is a great experience

but a really bad game
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>>384807636
and guess what
capitalism sucks ass
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>>384808093
I think the point is that >>384808098
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>>384808146
I can't fanthom how fucked up one's standards would need to be to actually consider Automata a bad game, even from a purely gameplay perspective.

The game is perfectly serviceable. It's not fair to hold every action game to the MGR/Bayonetta standards. that was never the intention of Automata. The gameplay feel responsible and is fun, even if a bit too easy to break.
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>>384808326
>capitalism sucks ass
>written from an iphone bought to you by your parents
top kek
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>>384808098
>tried to make it a space adventure about dragons and only got let near it at the end of development so he couldn't fuck anything up himself
but nah you're right, my bad. was he busy on nier at that point?
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>>384800149
He tells Square to fuck off subtely, then conforms but
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>>384803318
literally /ourguy/
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>>384807896
Putting aside drakengard 2, I think that the point is that automata shows very well that he puts in his games his own personal vision through his direction, and in a way that it's tied the vidya medium very well.
There are few vidya directors that actually knows how to do that (Ueda, Suda, Swery, Kojima when he actually had something to tell and say), it's a very peculiar and unique selling point in this market. Obviously if you aren't interested in that playing the Drakengard series isn't exactly the best idea.
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>>384808508
He intended for Nier to be Drakengard 3, and he wanted to pretty much destroy Drakengard 2 and the franchise with Nier, hence continuing it from a joke ending in Drakengard 1, in a whole new dimension. It was an attempt to write Drakengard 2 out of the universe by making Nier than canonical successor to DG1

It's also why the real Drakengard 3 was a prequel.
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>>384808926
it's tied to* the vidya medium very well.
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>>384808326

lmao fucking summer, I hope it ends soon
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>>384808326
Your opinion changed nothing. Realize that and apply it to your everyday life. No one gives a shit about you or what you have to say, they only do for those that hold influence.
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>>384808484
no, i mean, the game is "great", its a success, it's got everything you'd expect from a modern successful game, it's enjoyable through and through by the majority of players.

the closest thing i'd compare it too would be witcher3, another "great" successful game.

it's just to me they are both equally bad as games. They are both open world pseudo rpgs, ruined by their levelling systems, with tons of filler quests and sidequests, and mediocre combat that seems good on paper but ends up sucking because of execution and "you can't expect players to spent time learning how to play", but nier takes it two steps further with it's completely broken healing system as well as filler shmup sections and forced 2d perspective sections
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>>384808484
Very few people call MGR a GREAT game either dude, and I really enjoy it. Action game fans have been really spoiled with DMC, it's hard to beat.
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>>384808484

to be fair the hacking in the 9s playthrough gets a little dry by the end but agree 2B/A2 are fine.
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>>384806676
Its almost as if people have different opinions...makes ya think.
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>he had a seires on a soney home console
>published by square
>demo has video with maybe 100,000+ views
it's not obscure, just not mainstream. there was alot more marketing for nier, platnium and 2b made it sell. taro is gonna go back to making mediorce games.
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>>384809429
>>384809427
i lived in a country that aimed for socialism
i was building socialism with my fellow comrades
but then a proamerican dude came to power and sold our country for 200 000$
a bunch of "liberals" then started selling everything, piece by piece, industries, production, argoculture, banking system and natural resources untill there was almost nothing left, so they could just follow their capitalistic "dream" of getting filthy rich.

now i get to experience capitalism in full power
but you, who doesn't know shit, who only ever saw one side of the medal, how do you fucking dare to speak to me in such maner, you uneducated capitalistic larvae
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Drakengard sold pretty well in Japan tho. It was even reprinted because of it.
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>>384810037
>he seriously thinks square will give him some shit tier devs after Automata's success.
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>>384810053
kek nobody cares paco, i could buy your country 5 times in a row, also free market gets you get to enjoy 2Butt ass so idk why are you complaining
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>>384802672
>Can someone link a site that shows the console sales?
No console friend that can help?
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>>384810053
The point isn't that I don't think capitalism sucks, it's that nothing you say will effect anything in this world. The time you spent opening your mouth would have been better spent keeping it closed. You may as well have said nothing at all.
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>Nier Automata goes on to become the sleeper hit of the year, far surpassing anyone's expectations

1.5 million isn't a hit, there was alot tons of fringe communities that were looking forward to this game.
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>>384810280
>seriously thinking square will give him competent devs instead of trying to save money
>thinking they'll give taro any sort of budget or room when he's made 1 good game for all 11 of his other extremely bad games
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>All it takes to become a hit now is having a top tier waifu and selling to Steam neckbeards and memelords

daily reminder that Nier 1 was better in every way
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>>384811504
Let's see

>gives him not great devs and not invest in promotion
>the games don't sell well.
>square isn't satisfied and want to get rid of him.

>gives him the good devs he wanted and invest in promotion
>sales are much better.
>square is officially more than satisfied.

Ummmm I wonder what's more profitable and what square liked more.

>thinking they'll give taro any sort of budget or room when he's made 1 good game
So you are really an idiot.
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>>384811208
its a shitload of money tho
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>>384812296

>its a shitload of money tho

Depends on the budget for the game, and it was a somewhere between AA-AAA in terms of budget size.
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>>384812394
As far as i know nier automata wasnt a AAA game nor expected to have 1.5M sales
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>>384800432
This
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>>384811673
I think Automata's success is due to:
>being announced at a good time
>having a dedicated, existing fanbase
>having the Platinum name attached to it
>memelords
>Steam neckbeards
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>>384801615
I think it's great and I'll be replaying it again soon.
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>>384813428
Do you mean release at a good time?

But can you tell me what on earth "memelords" is? It sounds like some kind of tumbler bad guy.
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>>384811208
>1.5 million isn't a hit
Given that Yoko Taro games barely sell a couple tens of thousands, yeah, it is.
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>>384812763
Nigga spic food is fucking delicious, I just got the camarones a la diabla at the place across the road from me
They even gave me two tortillas, rice, and beans to make spicy shrimp tacos out of, it's the best
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>>384812394
Square Enix said that this was a "medium" game and they were surprised by the sales

going by that info and having played the game i'd say the budget was between 5-10 million
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