I'm in the Guilty Gear mood, so let's have a Guilty

>>384794856
Guilty gear is so bad that the only discussion you can have on /v/ is muh waifus.

Buy Street Fighter 5, it's full of players.

Ramlethal
But she's hard

>>384794856
>Lets talk about Moeshit animu fighter #728191
>Woohoo! X is my waifu!
>I love X's feet!
>X is cute! CUTE!

>"Hurr wheres the videogame conversation"
>F-Fuck off , this thread isnt for you then

Can't decide on who I want to invest time in, Chipp looks cool but he supposedly really damn hard to play. I'm an intermediate at best player at fighters.

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Only background with ArcSys is BlazBlue and Persona 4 fighting game. I'm interested but I have some questions.

Can I play as Jack-O without her mask? Can I get some samples of the vocal tracks? I have PS3 so I can cross play with PS4 players, do I get Revelator or Revelator and SIGN for the story mode? Wait for Revelator 2 upgrade to have a price drop or does it bring offline content for people who are bad at fighting games like me?

Since Rev has no dub, can I at least turn off voices individually and still get music and sound effects during a match?

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>>384794856
Z A P P A

>>384795227
If he looks cool then play him, who cares if he's hard? He's supposed to be really good too, so its not like you're working for nothing.

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>>384795182
>Lets talk about Moeshit animu fighter #728191
You never played the game and you just want to shitpost, whatever.
>Woohoo! X is my waifu!
>I love X's feet!
>X is cute! CUTE!
That's unfortunately the unavoidable cancer that plagues any attempt of discussion about this game, just like any other anime game "discussed" here, because this place is full of virgins that think with their dicks.
>"Hurr wheres the videogame conversation"
>F-Fuck off , this thread isnt for you then
Actually true but also a stupid excuse people use to keep going with their porn dumps.

>>384794941
Can we post porn then?

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>>384794856
Sol is my favorite character in general. I picked him in GG1 because he looked the coolest and never looked back.

Gameplay wise I like aggressive rushdown characters and Sol's the poster boy for that in an already offense, rushdown heavy game.

Character wise I tend to like characters who lose their humanity. Sol is actually the reason I like those kinds of characters and I find his character arc about revenge, being lied to for the sole purpose to keep him angry and scared, and his own fear of his lack of humanity despite still having a very human mind, interesting.

Jam, her fighting style seems to be so honest and flashy, also her basic combos aren't that hard to do in most cases

Still learning the basics before I jump on the online, but the game is hella fun, just spended 3 hours just doing the advanced combo trials with some characters, didn't learn anything useful but for some reason I'm a sucker for those things

>>384795837
My only two complaints about Jam are her voice and the can in her hair.

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>>384794856
My favorite is green Ky

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>>384794856
Best boy.

>>384796026
yup, she does moan a lot during the fights
but I love her moveset so much, the specials and supers are cool af

also her instant kill is kinda boring but isn't like I try to use it anyway

>>384796282
you're damn right!

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This is my wife, please say something nice about her.

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> Justice and Kliff are literally the most unpopular characters in the series

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>>384794856
Faust is my favorite character even though I don't play him. I like his design and how he plays. I play Sin though because he's easy as fuck to play and his combos are nice.

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>>384796513
Your wife looked better before the surgery.

>>384794941
I actually get more matches on GG because the lobby system is better than sfv's. The game is better too. What's your agenda, anon? I don't care about stream numbers or esports personalities. I just want a fighting game with a skill ceiling that rewards good execution.

>>384795479
fuck off retard, you don't belong here, normiefag scum

>>384795306
Jack-O always has her mask in fights. Revelator should have a synopsis of the plot from Sign, Rev 2 just adds a couple of epilogue scenes. I think you still need Rev 2 to access its patch content, but I'm not sure. And I think you can mute voices while leaving music and sound effects on.

>>384794856
Axl.

Also fuck sin, matches against him are annoying as hell, made me atop aying yhe game.

NA PS4 lobby? I'm rusty as fuck and trying to learn Jam.

>>384794941
>You will never be this much of a frustrated Capcbrole.
Now all we need is the Bloody Roar furrsoge players to complete the cycle of wrecking a perfectly good thread.

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>>384794856
I bought GG Rev2 in order to get some practice in for when dbfz comes out, but after the tutorial with sol, I thought on dropping the game. I came to my senses and realized that was stupid, i'd just go through the roster and find a character whose personality I enjoyed.
I picked Dizzy because of her blue hair and those angel and demon things on her back.
When I realized she had a fire/ice moveset, I knew she was gonna be my main. The fact she is the nicest character in the cast also helped seal the deal.

>>384798029
Stop playing the game*

>>384794856
Faust and Slayer are my favorites in terms of gameplay. I'd also play Gabriel if he ever makes it in.

>>384798029
You dropped the game because you don't like fighting against Sin?
You know, you could just not play against him.

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>>384798169
Dizzy needs more love

>>384798169
Similiar situation with me. Picked up Sign as my first fighting game, did the tutorials and all that stuff, but none of the characters really stuck with me. That was until me and my friend bought Revelator on a whim, and I found Elphelt.
Been playing her ever since, even if I know some people still hate her.
/blog

>>384794856
Slayer. obviously

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>>384794856
Jam, Zappa and ABA whenever they come back ;_;

on what region you guys play GG?

>>384794856
Where my Zato/Eddie boys at???

>>384796564
Is it cause they were boss characters for the longest time or do nips just not like their designs?

>>384799560
TXrd, central

>>384797903
Thank you. Jack O without her cute face, whhhyyyy

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Only the best.

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Is there a place where people put their vignette mode caps?

>>384799481
>when
The word you are looking for is "if".

tfw keep getting kicked out of rooms because of 21f delay

>>384800760
They'll make it. Daisuke said he wanted to put all the old characters in it eventually.

>>384799631
Kliff wasn't a boss character he was in the starting roster of the first Guilty Gear. You didn't even need to unlock him. He died in that one too, but I think it's nips not liking old men.

Justice is a different case. Justice was originally a boss character and they couldn't ever get down a way to make Justice with a proper playstyle until Accent Core+ which was this tanky zoner like Sagat from Street Fighter. Not a lot of people got that attached to Justice, but despite that she's a lot more popular than Kliff.

>>384800985
Stop playing on wifi

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>>384795016
My dude.

I started with Ramlethal but bitched out and play Leo now because he's pretty easy.

>>384794856
You posted him

>>384800985
Plug the goddamn PlayStation in.

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>>384802268
Disgusting. Leo teaches bad habits, if she's too hard for you pick someone that's basic but not hard like electric fundamentals man.

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GG or BB?

>>384803458
You can like both

>>384803458
This question always invites BB vs GG shitposting. Play whichever one you like.

>>384803518
But I only have time for one of them!

>>384803712
It might be better to get into GG then since BB seems to effectively be over.

Man I remember playing some character when I was drunk who had a brown coat and he was some old guy in one of the older blazblue or guilty gear games with a big black sword. Cool as fuck.

>>384803712
Read what >>384803518 said. If you only have time for one, flip a coin, then go back to the other when you have more time.

>>384798537
Half of the playerbase in my region uses him mate. I tried make myself used to the match up countless times but he is just too annoying.

>>384800607
nobody use that.
you buy a fighting game to fight, not to waste time in pointless gimicks

>>384801381
>Daisuke said he wanted to put all the old characters in it eventually.

Kliff's not getting in. Unfortunately.

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I play Sin. I'm very surprised to recently learn that his his rising j.D and descending j.D were different tools. I feel like a retard. He's fun.

My pocket is Baiken but I fucking suck with her parry. How do I git gud with her.

What character lets me go full unga? Sol and Raven are my current faves out of the roster, and I've tried Ky and I-no and feel neutral about them.

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Is this the best designed new character?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ3uoRsUYSM

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>>384795227

Choose him. You will play a character you like better than one you want for ease of use. I never liked the mentality of "Play Ryu to learn fightan games".

how do you approach neutral? played a few games of the psx version with a friend and it devolved into buttonmashing because were both pretty shit, but even though were shit at sf i can still distinguish like footsies/spacing, this game seems like a clusterfuck

>>384808174
Leo

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>>384795387

He's made of paper and requires a lot of mobility and has a heavy reliance on hit confirmation. Compared to like, Sin, whose buttons are just good enough that you can win a game just on footsies, Chipp is a harder drive but with more bang for your buck.

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>>384808605
This is a pretty solid beginners guide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I83GsQGg6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73lLNTkEALQ

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>>384794856
>Who's you're favorite Guilty Gear?

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>>384798029

Bro, seriously? You can learn the match up. Pick the game back up.

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>>384809043
Damn, this guy completely fucked me when I started playing. I was with Dizzy and he hit me from across the screen the whole game. 2 perfects.

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>>384803458

They're not mechanically 1:1. I pick GG over BB cause of aesthetic. The character designs in BB just seem way too pandering for my taste. Something is classier about I-No and Jack-O in comparison to Bullet or Litchi.

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>>384809043
>The Axl vs. Jacko matchup is heavily in favor of Axl. Jacko can't win.
>Heavily in favor of Axl vs. Baiken.

I don't play Jacko but holy shit is it like watching a slaughterfest. I have no idea how to fight this fuck with Baiken.

>>384809351
Ky is lucky

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>>384809351
He's the newbie crusher.

>>384809582
No better feeling than winning in a bad matchup, keep it up.

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>>384809975

You know it, bro. I need to get a handle over Baiken's parry, too. I'm kinda sad I didn't get to see any Baiken or Answer at EVO (I got sidetracked while watching Pools with Under-Night) to learn some new stuff with her. Anybody familiar with a Baiken main I can watch?

anyone want to drop me a PSN 20 so i can buy this game ;-;

>>384810825
sent ;)

Just pirate the PC version until you can afford the game

>>384811001
my PC is too toaster to run anything, literally unplayable

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You just used Faust's 236P, what item did you get?

Finally got my brother to sit down and learn the game. Been trying since Sign dropped.

>>384810239
>Anybody familiar with a Baiken main I can watch?
Someone answer this gentleman.

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There are so many GG threads lately. It's amazing. My favourite will forever be May. She was my first main, back in #R, and I just can't switch. She's like part of my soul now. When Xrd came out I was really put off by her new fightstyle but just couldn't change characters. Now I love it.

>>384795227
Just play him. If you play a character you don't enjoy just because it's easy you're just going to ruin your experience. Go play Chipp and eventually you'll figure it out.

>>384796170
Well you're in luck, he's supposed to be the next character to be realeased, according to Daisuke.

>>384800985
Maybe you can start a local scene there in Antarctica?

>>384803458
GG, but BB is still pretty cool.

>>384809975
He's honestly a bit dumb. Why does a Dhalsim-like zoner need a DP and a counter?

>>384811884
My heart tells me it's a hammer.

>>384810239
https://keeponrock.in/?char1=baiken

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>>384808314
He's the best Xrd newcomer.

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>>384812969

YOU ARE THE FUCKING BEST, MY MAN.

>>384812828
Sharon maybe. Check mdesilva's YouTube channel, he'll have some shit.

>>384807324
Daisuke doesn't seem to care too much about a characters popularity.. I think the only thing that would stop him is lack of time or budget.

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I wish I could extract Raven's voice files

>>384813515
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSq9hRF0zPpVetnJ3ZVFW9s8RsuL-wCxd

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>>384813686

Jeez, there goes my next couple of hours then. Thanks, mate!

What changes would you like to see in a new balance patch?
Besides nerfing Johnny and Leo

>>384814516
Totally shilling for the channel, it's great. Hope it helps you man.

>>384814552
Do they ever add moves?
I wish Baiken had an extra move besides the floor mat to keep characters in place.

>>384814552
>Leo
>Not Sin, Elphelt, and Chipp

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>384815227
Someone will reply some shit about how Leo was second place in EVO and how that definitely proves he's OP and then there'll be like a dozen back and forth posts about tiers. You know it'll happen.

Is Elphelt a good character for a shitter to start with?

>>384815625
Yes. She's strong and relatively easy execution wise.

>>384815550
UNGA

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>>384794856
I like all of them, even the shitty ones. Guilty Gear is probably the only game where I love playing with every character even if I'm not that good at the game... yet.

I love Johnny the most though, and I'm so glad that such a based character went from the bottom to soaring heights. God bless Omito!

I'm so happy that Robo Ky is next. He's so goddamn fun to play.

If Ariels is playable, what will she play like?

All the newcomers are pretty fucking shit and forgettable except for the Valentines

>>384816885
Anji should be next. I wonder if they're going to change his playstyle.

>>384816885
Shame Guilty Gear isn't going to be updated for a long time now

>>384814552
>nerfing Johnny

Fuck no. If anything, I'd rather prefer more buffs over nerfs, preferably on characters like Answer and Ramlethal.

I'd find a nerf on Sin and UNGA acceptable though.

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I would love if the game would go back into the grittier looking portraits and ambience that had back then

I like the animations and such, but the new characters are all weeb bait

>>384817367
Leo and Axl need to stay exactly the way they are. They teach new people how to counter certain tactics. If you can't fight the most simplistic Leo and Axl tactics, then you don't deserve to go forward in the game.

>Always base my character decision on playstyle and never looks, but that Potemkin guy looks neat
>10 Hours in of experimenting with the cast and am by far the most comfortable with May of all people.

Axl Low.
He is my boi.

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>>384814552
- Better hitboxes for May's air normals and dolphin tackles. I've seen really ridicuouls things happen.
- Nerf Chipp. His HS teleport (the one that appears above, if I'm correct) should at least have greater recovery or at least hist air normals shouldn't have hurtboxes so small.
- Ramlethal's corner game should be nerfed and her neutral game should be buffed. Right now she's just another Millia when she should be a keepaway character.
- Raven should be way weaker at the beginning. The masochist meter still isn't as relevant as it should be. Again it's yet another Millia, and one that puts the real Millia to shame. IMO, an interesting idea would be to make his meter enhance his abilities a lot, but make it so it's directly linked to purple health and as purple health goes down the meter does too. Mix that with a self-harm move that let's him get purple damage by himself and it could be a fascinating character for once.

Can't say anything about Zato, Bedman, Elphelt or Haehyun since I never see any.

S O L B A D O G A Y

Baiken absolutely sucks in Rev2. Do not bother with counter unless you know 200% what your opponent is going to do. Most of the time, it is not worth the risk. Air counter is much better and works how the ground counter should.

Outside of this, she does not have a consistent corner knockdown combo like a lot of other characters. Pokes are not as good as before (less range, which make the bad matches a nightmare). Lack of gatling routes, slower and increased recovery tatami, ground combos suck mid-max range without meter and I have no idea how they did it, but Suzuran (armour run) is worse. Youzansen is still good despite the range nerf.

Sure she can be a blast still but prepare to work hard in every match and make sure you learn something from every game.

>>384816885
I want to see robo-ky back as well but I'm afraid we might have to wait quite a while for the next update.

I started with sin and he's fun. Not much artificial difficulty like other characters

Jack-O

Trying to figure out Elphelt and Slayer tho

>>384809162
I have been trying since xrd, that shit is impossible to me

this game would be improved if forward was the run command and forward walk was removed or switched to double tap input

>>384814552
Leo is fine as is, the only big problem with post-1.1 Johnny is

The real culprits of Rev2 are Raven, Sin, and Chipp. God, they really need to nerf low-excitement Raven, and buff Answer so his routes are more universal.

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>Who's your favorite Guilty Gear?

Who Bedbro here?

>>384818875
*is air lvl2/3 S Mist Finer instant overhead, but I'd rather that stay since it's such a unique and interesting tool.

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>>384817470
They're mostly take inspiration on 90's anime characters though, and some are minimally changed or downright untouched like Ky, I-no, and the Jellyfish Pirates (J&M). I would've preferred classic Potemkin with those new kicks of his though, but the design's not bad.

I'd say GG's still balanced in terms of how weeb it looks. If anything, Elph is probably the most anime and unfitting looking, whether it's the classic or new. I still love her though, especially for being a waifu with guns and because her voice is good to hear.

>>384818916
I decided to try and pick him up. Right now I'm going crazy because of his float thing. I naturally try to double jump and IAD.

>>384794856
Chipp,I really like all his mobility options and it's always fun when you outplay someone due to them not being able to keep up with his speed.

>>384794856
Rev2 is my first GG and I am still undecided.

So far Baiken is my main, but I also like playing Ky, May and Potemkin

>>384794856
I want a sin/ robo ky story arc

>>384814552
Honestly Sin, johnny, leo and elphete. Currently they have way too many oportunities for preassyre and they can do it safely, whenever one of them attack they pretty much sictate the entire match which makes any matchup a fucking bore.

A few changes i would like to see are:
>More unsafe moves on block that canot be canceled into another
>Remove leo grab invunerable moves while in the back stance.
>Nerf johnny coin and make it destructable so it wont give him free pressure all the time and change the effects of his moves
>Different startup times for sin moves depending on how much hunger bar he has or make his hunger bar also be his tension bar somewhat like robo ky


>>384815045
Yes, axl got two new air normals, venom has a different crouched hs animation, sol and ky have different 6hs aninations, elphete can now roll into shotgun stance, in revelator leo was able to hold his normals for a acounter if i remember correctly, there was also poyemkim getting a new crouched stance and hitbox among other alterations.

>>384820027
Sorry for any misspelling, mobilefag here currently without a pc.

>>384819804
Play any beside potemkin, unless you are fab you gonna have a bad time

Whenever I start playing a fighting game, there is always a thread about it, weird.
Aynways, I got Revelator for PC a while ago, and I'm finally getting into it. As a guy who has mainly played SF, is the series gonna be hard to get into for me?

>>384820239
Why is that?
I only play offline with a handful buddies and we all suck.
I don't think tiers matter for the level that we are playing at.

>>384820797
Probably not. Movement, defensive option, and combos might take a little bit to get used, but it shouldn't be too bad.

>>384820797
It won't really be hard if you know the basics of a fighting game. Very robust tutorials both in-game and community made can help the transition.

>>384820934
He has very poor mobility compared to the rest of the cast

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>>384799621
>no love for the original scumbag character

>>384821048
>>384821000
Thanks lads. Also, are there any characters that I should steer clear from for now? I'm trying to learn Johnny and Jam for now, and I might learn Sol afterwards.

>>384799621
>>384821052
Too hard to play as and too hard to play against.

>>384821182
Zato and Venom are the most complex characters, you may want to hold off on learning them until you get a good feel for the game. Bedman also has some weird shit that is unique to him.

>want to play Sin because fighting with flags is the coolest shit, and he's a cute genki boy
>don't like his keep-away playstyle.

>>384821182
Any character that's either non-standard or too off like Zato, I-no, Venom, Potemkin come to mind, but either way always try to get a feel for them.

Here's a good series to watch if you come from SF as it makes things very intuitive.

Guilty Gear Crash Course: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj34EySs1IeZ8GpjKW8R2T6dzI6B3GSuH

>>384821481
He only keep away in a sense that he controls the pace of the match with f.S and Beak Driver. He's actually very very aggressive due to the nature of specials cancelling into each other.
https://youtu.be/U9PwuzfrrdQ

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>>384817470
I mean, the game is still very, very faithful to Daisuke's art.
The grittiness really comes from his harsh, traditional colouring style, and aggressive lines, but it's pretty hard to replicate that in game.

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>>384821382
>>384821683
Thanks again!
It's not much, but both of you have a qt Cammy.

Friends, I have a question

Why do I suck at connecting a move in the air into a move on the ground? How do I fix this shit? I feel like my air dashing is shit and its very glaringly obvious right there.

>>384822192
Good luck anon, I hope you enjoy the game.

>>384822701
Just takes practice. I'm shit at it too.

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>>384821951
His art can be hit or miss but I love Daisuke's work.

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>owned gg for a week now
>still can't decide who to main
I need help, bros
I'm willing to learn any character, they all seemed fun outside of maybe Kum and Raven

>>384822936
Pick the cutest/coolest

>>384822701
What exactly are you doing? And which character? Like air dash in while pressing a normal? Because it depends on the height, the normal and the character youre using it against.
>>384822936
Slayer

>>384794856
y they got rid of demo :((((((

>>384822776
Sorry for dragging you back into the conversation, but you are a really nice anon. Must anons are really passive aggressive and shit, but you and that other dude were really chill. I appreciate that. Also, I really hope I enjoy GG, I've always had a hard time getting into anime fighters in general, I always prefered the slower pace of SF more. But I'm sure that's something that just takes practice.

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>>384822794
>ABA still not back
>Zappa still not back

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>Play Jam's episode
>She's actually a fountain of wisdom and helps people at their low points without even trying

Well hush my mouth

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>>384799621
Right here.

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>>384794856
whens zappa

>>384823173

I mean, I've been trying to make a combo with Baiken's j.k since I believe it has launch properties but I'm talking about like, that one trial that all the characters have where you gotta dash at the dummy, and then continue the combo once it connects into the air on the ground. Usually ends with a Cr. D? The move that connects the shit in the air into the shit on the ground is very specific in timing and I feel like I'm shit at it and I can feel it when I'm trying out combos.

GG is my first airdasher if that means anything.

>>384794941
>it's full of players.
>that's it
>you can't explain why the gameplay is generally more fun

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>>384822936
If you're only a week in, my best advice is not to worry about a main until much later. Just play whomever you feel like at the time and see what you like and don't like. If you ever feel like you get stuck with progressing with a character, take a break from them and try another one. Sometimes realizing something with one character is just what you need to make the next step "click" with another.

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>>384822794
As of XRD, his art has become way more consistent, more cartoony as well, sure, but it's less likely to be off-model compared to his previous art.
And it's not like he's locked to that one artstyle either, he's still able to do more grounded stuff.
Like, say the XRD OST art with Millia.

They guy's really crazy talented.

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>>384798127
I can make an accent core plus r pc lobby if you want

>>384823213
No prob man, I love Guilty Gear and would really love to see it get bigger. It's so niche, and the elitist attitude that the FGC sometimes gets hurts the scene. You playing on PC or PSN? I am legit fucking awful at the game, but would send you a friend request if you're on PSN and want someone to play against sometime.

>>384823639
Still one of my favorite pictures of Hakumen.

>>384799631
GG1 wasn't in arcades

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>>384823639
Daisuke also changes his art style constantly. The picture you posted and most of Xrd's art by him comes from the experiments he started making when he did the art for GG Isuka.

If you really want to see some rough but interesting stuff, you should check out the Prototype GG1 art work (pic related).

>>384805947
>why sfv was so barebones.txt

>>384823474
Ahhhh, yes the airdash in using j.K to plop them up yeah? You have to use it as low to the ground as possible anon. The denonstration makes it look easy. You have to time your airdash in so the j.P chains into j.K naturally. You may also want to try instant airdashing (IADing). So you can airdash as fast and as low to the ground as possible. You can do this by pressing 966 or tapping diagonal up into forward forward for the fastest airdash possible.

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>>384818916
Ayyy

>>384814552
>nerf leo
Get unga'd fagwagon. Maybe learn how to play the game.

>>384824072
>You have to use it as low to the ground as possible anon.

God, I feel like an idiot. That makes so much sense. Thanks for the assist, anon!

>>384823646
Sorry man, only have a super shitty laptop atm.

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>>384794856
My main nigga. I was really happy seeing Tomo get as far as he did. Omito was just on another fucking level though.

>>384823761
I have Sign for PSN, but I don't have a stick, and that's why I bought Revelator for PC, becasue that's where my stick works. I can still give you my PSN if ya want tho.
EPIC_DamyBamy
I might buy Tekken or something else on there.

>>384824229
No problem anon Im always glad to help. Its a hard sub genre in an already niche game.

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>>384794856
>Who's you're favorite Guilty Gear?

>>384824518
Alright, I'll send you one later today.

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>new to the game
>don't know who to play
>try out Answer
>he's the coolest and fun as FUCK to play

I've only been doing his trials too and I love everything about him, i havent even played online with him yet, where my fellow ninjas at?

>>384825478
I always wanted to play answer Im too lazy. He is pretty fucking fun to watch though, a guy at my locals dropped his Faust for Answer and he's just zipping through everyone. His command grab also hurt. I'll probably start learning him seriously this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAamVouYMDE
Too bad Kaz dropped this guy for Raven but thats understandable

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>>384823639
What kind of art does Daisuke do for the games anymore aside from the game covers? The character select art like in >>384825478 and >>384816676 is clearly drawn by someone else.

>>384825478
I haven't even run into one online yet.

>>384826150
That's because all of those fags play Ky, Sin and Leo

>>384826310
All I see are Sols and Elphelts.

>>384826105
The character select "art" are renders.

how many more characters do you think we will get?

I think after Robo Ky maybe just one more, probably Bridget

I really wanted Testament, Anji and Zappa back, expecielly Zappa, but I do love the roster in this game

>>384826105
>What kind of art does Daisuke do for the games anymore aside from the game covers?

Did you somehow forget that he's also the director, game designer, writer, and composer?

>>384826743
Explains why they mostly look like shit

>>384826825
I'm aware of his many roles. Like I was asking I was just wondering what kind of actual art he does anymore aside from game covers.

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>>384826805

I really doubt its two more and then quits. I think they'll pull a KI and try to get everybody in. They got a good thing going on with 20$ patches to give it up.

God, I fucking hate fighting game price implementations. I still hope they keep to 20$ patches.

>>384826805
for Rev2 I guess 2, maybe 3. Considering the cuurent of tren of characters being added in pairs of new and old I'm going to guess Robo-Ky and Ariels are next.

NO ROBO-KY
NO ROBO-BUY

I just started playing rev 2, is I-No a bad character to start with?

>>384828010
She's a bit unorthodox due to not having a dash, but floating instead. Not necessarily a bad character to start with, but she may give you some weird habits that are specific to her.

why they keep fuckin delet-ing xrd demos

>>384828010
Is this your first fighting game? I-no's gameplan revolves around keeping your opponent from doing anything by keeping them guessing between high or low because of her unique hoverdash setups. Basically, you want to turn the fight into a single player game where you need to get in their face and make them guess wrong over and over. I wouldnt say she's a bad character to start with though, but its something to keep in mind. She has no decent way of getting out of pressure herself, and some of her combos can get a bit hard but nothing too demanding. You can definitely play around with her if you think you can get comfortable with the idea of a vortex character.

>>384827197
He'll be in Rev 3

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>Bedman was nerfed to hell and back in Revelator
>"Rev2 will sure remeber him and make him top tier again"
>they nerf him even more

It's not fair, lads. at least his new moves are quite handy

>>384820934
He has very poor mobility, slow normals, weird hitboxs and you can shit on him easily, he does a lot of damage but most of his stuffrrquires meter which you wont get because he has very fee offrnsive options without taking a huge risk, also ebery character can do the damagebhe does in a simple combo so playing him is not worth it at all.

Are there translations of the system voices anywhere?

rip thread

>>384814552
It's fucking great to see the complaints about Leo. It actually shows how good the player is.
Like the bigger the hate, the bigger the scrub he is.

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>>384829236
>Sin nearly untouched
>Bedman into the ground

>>384831964
I wouldn't say he's nearly untouched. There's not many high/top level Sin players anymore outside of Machaboo and Kizze Kay.

>>384832764
I don't know if that's really ebcause he's notably worse or because Johnny and Raven arrived.

Why do people play BB over this? Are they retarded?

>>384829236
>Bedman was nerfed to hell and back in Revelator
What are you smoking? The only real change he got is that he couldn't just mash H on one of his airdash and get a throw. Like he got his throw reduced and a small proration added on his 2K (which still lead to some of the best reward damage-wise in the game thanks to the gatling into 5H).
You may not realize it, but your boy has been top 5 past Sign 1.1. Not only was he strong enough to murder you from anywhere in the screen, but he also had a good matchup against Sin. Bedman in his current state is a honnest char, even if he has some of the best mixups in the game.

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Raven is too much fucking fun man. I only recently picked up Rev 2 (and guilty gear as a whole) so I'm still at that "what the fuck am I doing" stage of the game but he's so good. Feel sort of guilty for gravitating towards higher tier when I only just started but whatever really.

>>384833175
Mixture of both.
>>384833768
Preferences and its more popular in Japan so it has a bigger community even though there's a big overlap between them.

>>384833768
Are you really going to be as annoying as a smash autist?

>>384811884
That fucking helium man. I bursted out laughing the first time I picked it up in a lobby.

>>384824958
I think this character is being slept on hard.

One of the strongest characters in the game but no one plays.

>>384833768
GG is the better game but BB got all the best waifus.

>>384823639
>Hakumen with a Venom vibe

HHNNNNNNG

>>384835294
BB doesn't have Baiken.

>>384835404
Do you think Baiken and Hakumen would get along?

Yuzuhara is a better design than Baiken

>>384835294
Nah I disagree. I don't know much about GG lore but Rachel and Makoto are probably the least fucked up girls in BB.

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>>384835520
>Yuzuhara

I have fucking brain damage, I meant Yuzuriha.

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Just waiting 'til ma boi gets in. Pic very related. Until then I'm playing May.

>>384835774
I've only played the game twice, but she's my favorite design. New girl with the whip is pretty cool too.

>>384833798
>You may not realize it, but your boy has been top 5
How come no one uses him though? Has he won tournaments outside of arcade ones? I just got into rev 2 and only see him in arcade videos and never see him in tourneys and such. All I ever see is maruken, souji, ashihana, lox, and gcyoshi who did videos explaining how bedman plays.

>>384835774
>no ass
lol

>>384835294
The only good BB girls are Rachel and Celica

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>>384836482
>Being a Caveman

>>384794941
are you the kermitposter that dodged me in alpha 3?

>>384827068
Who the fuck is ariels?

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>>384837780
The Pope of course.

>>384838375
Oh ok.

>>384836203
It's probably because his design is really unconventionnal in general

>>384835265
>Those redball oki mixups and kick loops
>being able to confirm into 2H with fucking 2K now for some reason
>being able to cancel uncharged shiinken into charged shiinken

Has an updated tier list dropped since EVO? Also, is there a recent MU chart?

>>384839479
Tiers don't matter in GG. A low tier got 2nd place.

>>384839927
Just wait for EVO japan and we'll see how tiers don't matter.

>>384839927
Yes yes, okay. But the MU chart? Not finding one that reflects the changes from Rev 2.

One last bump

>>384835265
I've been messing around with him and he's cool and all, but the price makes me hesitant. I main Sin, so I was thinking of having him as a secondary. Is he really that good?

So how do you play Ram? Why is she so weird?

>>384842265
You don't, you pick a character that isn't her and enjoy the game

>>384842265
Her neutral kinda sucks, but once she gets you trapped in a corner, she can tear you up.

NEXT DLC WHEN

Leo a best
dem heroic retreats

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>>384842265
Deploy H sword, then jump around and randomly hit 5S and 2H, hoping you'll catch something. If you're lucky, you'll land a dauro and then mash P and K until you've pushed your enemy into the corner. Then you cycle through your memorized routine until they burst out or die. Done. Eventually, you get tired of it or your friends convince you to choose another character, so you lazily go with Sol, settle on May, or fully dedicate yourself to the lab and choose Zato, but you'll always have the lewds to remember her.

Recently picked this up and started doing trials with Dizzy. It's pretty great, but I've been looking at Raven and Jack-O' as alternatives to Dizzy. Who would you guys suggest?

>>384808314
>>384813502
I think he looks great designwise, but the 3rd lens on his glasses is just fucking stupid and kind of ruins it for me.

>>384844112
If you want to win and don't care what other think choose Raven.
If your okay with mobage faggotry choose Jack-O.

>Usually end up playing the token animal themed character in any fighter because that character usually just syncs with how I like to play that system
>Tao for BlazBlue, Ms. Fortune for Skullgirls, Juri for Street Fighter, King for Tekken, Felicia for Darkstalkers/ Marvel, etc
>So much so that I just go and try them out first when I boot the game up rather than waste time putting around
>GG has no such character so I can't use this character selection crutch
>neat.jpg

>>384794856
Faust it my fave to play. He seems random at first, but when you get used to his teleports and item throws, he is so much fun.

>>384844112
RAVEN for the mere fact that he's easy to use and top tier. He's really that good. Raven is actually also boring to play but I think its still a good investment because atleast you'll know how to deal with Ravens down the line

>>384829236
Welcome to the Makoto train faggot

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Why is Zato hard? When I was trying out characters I found he felt the most fluid in my hands along with Bedman, but I can see how the latter can be tricky to master. Anyone that knows the Zato tech better than me wanna redpill me?

>>384824517
>Be considered mid-low tier in a surprisingle balanced game (except braindead Raven)
>Make it that far at EVO
>Suddenly everyone demanding nerfs
The salt is real

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>>384844648
That Man might me able to fulfill that role.

If he ever gets in.

>>384844112
Raven is solid and probably top tier. Dizzy and Jack-O will require more work. Jack-O is very momentum based; if she gets a chance to set up, her pressure is insanely hard to get out of.

>>384844978
Controlling Eddie.
Requires buffering button holds. Very particular control over your buttons since you need to keep the right buttons held and release them at the right time for Eddie to do what you want when you want him to. Then also making sure not to press and release the WRONG buttons or else Eddie gets bopped and you lose your pressure. All of this needs to be done at a fast pace while also worrying about not disabling the wrong button in case you need to anti-air, etc.

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>>384845324
>Not Izuna

>>384845215
If it were FAB, people wouldn't be demanding Pot nerfs really. Much like Sin even after his kneecaps got busted, its just that the image Leo has created for himself that perpetuates this, as well as the memes like unga bunga that spur people to call for nerfs, not realizing that any idiot can pick up Leo but it takes a true-skilled player like Tomo to play him intelligently. If Potemkim ever won Evo, people will treat him as this execution heavy character that gets a free pass. Not true with Leo, Elphelt, Johnny or Sin even after you run all of them to the ground.

>>384845324
Him and Robo Ky are pretty much locks for near future DLC or version update additions.

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>>384794856
I don't play her nearly enough to be good, but Ino is the top tier GG waifu.

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I thought Venom's design was dope from the beginning, and I like charge characters to begin with. I also like having good neutral spacing buttons, so I'm happy it was a natural fit. I also really like Slayer, Zato, Baiken and Pot but Venom is too fun to not play.

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>tfw you finally get good with the best character
It feels good playing the most honest character in the game

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I love big damage katana gambler man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sloZpC1VI0

>>384845963
Would you say it feels dandy?

>play SSBM for a bit more than 2 years
>reasonably good, don't go 0-2 at locals, play a technical fox
>pick up GG a few weeks ago
>everyone has been playing this fucking game for years and even beginners can do advanced combos with RCs
>get absolutely demolished by everyone

I'm not gonna complain about the game being hard or some pussy shit, but I wish it were easier to find games where I'm not under pressure the entire time and I can start learning neutral and working on baits with movement. I probably do better than someone who started their first traditional FG recently should but it's frustrating.

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>>384845324
>飛島=R=クロイツ
That name.
That character design.

Fucking hell, being voiced by Sugita is his only saving grace.

>>384845963
>want to learn slayer or may
>cant backdash cancel so i just settle with may
feels bad, honestly, because I like slayer more as a character but May seems to win way more while Slayer is more mindgames

>>384844112
Raven is top tier but very much one-note. You get people in the corner and mix up over and over until you win, there's not much room for creativity outside the occasional anti-air command grab callout. Only real weakness is no meterless reversal. Most people just like him for his style which I love too.

Jack'O is entirely based around her minion gimmick and I honestly can't recommend her to anyone. She plays so differently not only in her houses and cooldown specials, but how her D moves expend meter and all the mechanics of managing houses.
This all sounds like it would be interesting but it really boils down to running away the entire match trying to level houses and then either steamrolling the whole screen with annoying fucks or getting poked to death. Playing against is really never fun or interesting.
But play her if you find her fun, man. Who gives a damn. She's just gimmicky as hell and doesn't play like anything comparable in fightan.

>>384846260
Have you used the beginner lobbies? The discord is also of big help when it comes to beginner games just ask nicely
https://discord.gg/0XHAUY5AppITX2Yo

Which character do you use?

>>384846260
The only problem I have so far is that there's so many situational combos. I've been trying to learn Elphelt but certain combos only work in specific scenarios that I end up executing them the times they don't work, but flubbing them the times they would work.

>>384845801
Venom is the character I'd like to play, but my brain and how he and the system play are just not compatible.

I, like a lot of people surprisingly, picked up Leo when I started about two weeks back, so I'm looking for a more technical character to pocket eventually and it's tricky with the cast still being kind of small.

>>384844268
I thought it was kinda dumb until I accidentally hit taunt once and he shot a laserbeam out of it

>>384846495
>so many situational combos
Found your problem. Don't worry about those. All you need is a ground combo that ends in knockdown, and an air combo. That's it. All you need. Then once your execution has reached a level where you think you can go for more complex stuff and you've played the game enough to spot things like counter hit confirms, THEN practice an optimized counter hit combo and an optimized corner combo.

A huge misconception in Guilty Gear is combos are all that matters, this is UNTRUE. Fundamentals are always the most important.

>>384846536
You can get by with Venom in the beginning with just basic spacing and 6p abuse. Venom struggles under rushdown but only if you let them in, he may have the best 6p in the game. Other than that, do like k-ball -> j.k/j.s oki and p ball tap in neutral. And venom's air backdash is pretty fast, so you can use it to get yourself some space and set up balls, which will let you start some offense.

>>384846536
Try Answer

>>384846442
I started playing Sol just to get the hang of inputs but I think I'm gonna go with Elphelt now and I've been learning her more advanced punishes

>>384846898
Elphelt is a very solid character. Good buttons, amazing damage and great oki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtEMgVUNkEQ

Tutorial made by a friend. Its outdated because this is Rev1 but the general strategy's still there

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I don't know if the jokes about Kum Haehyun being a character for old man Street Fighter players was a thing but that's who I ended up picking up. Kum herself is also cute too.

I can do kick loops no problem in training mode but I always get nervous and drop them after 1 or 2 reps in a match.

>>384846785
It feels like I do too little damage though. It's the problem I have in a lot of other games, I can get 10 hits and still lose because the other guy can end me starting with three.

>>384847081
thanks man, I'll give it a watch

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>>384803458
I play both, but I have a slight bias towards BB because I picked it first + GG doesn't have snek in its roster

Anyone on psn rn?

As someone who has really only seriously played GG, what's the deal with BB? Everyone feels gimmicky, and I can't really find a character I love, or get a grasp on the gameplay. At least with GG you can meme KD into fireball high/low mixup, idk how to understand the "main points" of BB

>>384847594
I can get on in an hour or so

>>384847692
There is no point. The game is pretty shallow. Top 8 at EVO is a perfect example of this.

>>384847692
There isn't really, BB just isn't as good as Gear.

>>384846785
I actually really like Spacing shenanigans in fighters so Dormammu and Chris where great to play in MvC3. I honestly think a big part of it is that I just can't seem to get a hold of charge characters, but I'll try this out.

>>384846804
I'll give him a shot, thanks

>>384847297
Dont try to focusd on doing the loops per se. Start with 1 loop then end it with a knockdown. It will eventually be more natural the more you play.

>>384847692
I don't actually know what you're asking for.

>>384847692
BB is all about pressure and drives. Its about being absolutely scummy and abusing Overdrive into touch of deaths. I like it but mainly because Im attacted to the characters I play.

>>384847692
GG is westaboo anime and manages to be pretty streamlined thanks to character gimmicks being relatively simple for each character while also being very well balanced due to the small cast. The story mode is also less cluttered and more straight forward. This said, it's far easier to digest.

BB is the most anime thing ever and could easily be showcased as an anime fighter to aspire to since almost every character exhibits a trope of the medium. Unfortunately combos are light on damage and long and a lot of character gimmicks are obtuse or clumsy and the developers "I focus on what's fun, not what's balanced" mantra is annoying, however the cast over almost a decade is massive so there's someone for just about everyone. It's also worth noting the story is a massive nonsensical clusterfuck.

I like both just fine, but overall I find GG to be the better product at the end of the day, both casually and competitively.

and fuck ArcSys StreetFighter2-on-crack tier version releases

How do you guys grip the controller? I find it difficult to roman cancel when i hold it reguarly. What buttons do you usually press, using a DS4 btw.

>>384846898
zzzzz

>>384849184
Map your Roman Cancel to L1. My R1 is dust and R2 is S+H for Blitz/Faultless Defense/Dead Angle Attack

>>384849184
Map RC to a shoulder button. I wouldn't recommend attempting trying to press more than 2 face buttons at once on a DS4.

>>384848549
>>384848753
You right in saying that BB is turbo anime. GG is like 60% Rock, 40% Anime, BB is like 10% Rock, 90% Anime. What is the structure of pressure like, when does the opponent get a chance to challenge it and get out? How does the attacker maintain advantage on oki with stuff like the forward tech roll? I've honestly put no work into BB so I don't know.

The characters I have an inclination towards are Tager, Relius, Rachel, Azrael, and shit idk Hakumen and Arakune. But they, and everyone, are just so different.

>>384849184
Like this anon >>384849493 said, though I leave R2 unbound.

>>384849493
>>384849645
>>384849692
Thanks anons

>>384849651
GG is anime when anime was good. Old school anime. BB is the new wave anime that's not so good, full of moe shit, etc. GG also has metal influences.

>>384849651
I main Hakumen and sub Mai when I feel lazy. BB gameplay structure's still about space control like most fighting games, but driven to 11 because of how strong counterhits are. You'll open your opponent by applying pressure, hit confirming etc but this varies from character to character. Some character like Carl and Jin can apply pressure a lot more airtight than most characters while other characters like Hakumen dont have much pressure but amazing reach and damage even without meter. Due to how gameplay revolves around Drives however, things can get a non-uniform because some characters are balanced around their drives. Some characters are great naturally like Nine or Jin because their drives are solid, but some characters like Arakune have poorly designed drives that its either really broken like now, or really shit and no in between.

BB, much like GG rewards being aggressive. In GG, your reward for being aggressive is a knockdown in which you can setup oki. In BB your reward is Active Flow state which buffs your damage and makes your burst recover faster thus making you capitalize on Overdrive cancels and reversals more. Oki in BB has the added element of catching people tech roll so its a bit harder to setup but generally tech rolling is really unsafe because its very easy to call out.

>>384848753
>>384849651
GG and JoJo owe the bulk of their character names, backgrounds, abilities, etc to American and British musicians not to mention countless other references in many other franchises, what is it with Japans obsession with themeing things after western bands?

>Character I like is really boring to play without FRCs

I'm finding it really hard to get back into this game. Don't really have any interest in playing any of the other characters.

>>384849651
Speaking of that, I find it difficult to combo in BB for some reason. It was easy as shit in CT, but I tried CP and I couldn't get any at all playing Amane or Hakumen even after a week of practice.

>>384850839
CT had very lenient hitstops and was criticized for it. Its a lot faster now though so the window is less. I would say its easier to combo in BB due to the input buffers still in. Doing reversals is also easier than GG since you can input reversal while teching and get your dp compared to GG when you really have to time it to get out.

For some reason though, IAD combos in BB are harder for me than doing IAD combos in GG.

>>384850787
Axl player?

>>384851162
I-No

>pick up Jack-O' with no prior knowledge
>immediately do a 13 hit combo including launch and air juggling
Thia character, she must have been made for me

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I was playing Dizzy an hour ago against a Sol, and he activated his insta-kill and ran towards me. So I used her mirror super to knock him away, but the instakill broke through the mirror and and I lost.
Can all instakills break Dizzy's mirror?

>>384851479
Godod to hear youre having fun, anon. Heads up though, make sure the combo counter is red and not gray, else its not a true combo.

>>384799087
Elphelt was in Sign.

Can someone explain to me how Ariels could play like, since she's probably going to be bundled in with Robo Ky when they announce the next 2 characters?

>>384851625
Just the ones with a lot of invuln like sol's and maybe baiken's iirc. You can actually use sol's IK to bait and punish bursts by itself, like Kazunoko did on Elvenshadow.

>>384851730
Probably like Ninethe from Blazblue since she's technically the strongest magic user in the GG universe. Expect spells and stock combinations of elements or the like.

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>>384794856
im a dandy man
too bad i am psychically incapable of dash canceling

>>384851857
>>384851730
Nah, that's how That Man is gonna play probably.

>>384851708
Yeah, but she was dlc so I didn't bother, also I remember that the dlc wasn't available in eu back when I tried Sign.

>>384852032
>That Man plays like Nine but all of his spells are Bullet Hell projectiles like his boss fight in Overture.

>>384851730
She has a sword and a revolver for normals, probably some magic for her specials.

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>>384816676
is johnny the pure essence of cool
even has the best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O3MSiUKa3k

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>>384848753
>light damage combos
you take that back

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>>384852590
Le unga bunga meme

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>>384852363
>tfw you will never be even half as cool as johnny

>>384852363
>Best theme
Ok, now those are fighting words.
https://youtu.be/OOLKrd7594Y

>>384849651
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iG2GfZouCfJ3kAzM1M9CkRrvZJWMGMxpA8bwwkTJSNw/edit

what's a good character for a beginner besides ky, sol or leo .
Want to play another character besides Ky

>>384853132
Ky, Sol, Leo, Elphelt, Sin, May

>>384853132
Don't play a character because they're "easy" or "hard".
Play a character you like and find fun.
Every character is hard, some are just hard to get into, others much harder to master.

What a cute boy. Guilty Gear has cute boys

>>384853360
k might try sin because fuck charge moves on a pad

>>384840225
For the record that low tier Leo won the ArcRevo. Which is the equivalent of King of the Iron Fist tournament for Arcsystemworks. So it's held in Japan. So yeah, tiers don't matter. Expect a Slayer at Top 8 of Evo Japan if Hase enters.

>>384851692
It was grey when I did it the first time but I change a couple of the buttons and managed an orange 11 hit combo. Didn't realize dust is hard to combo into.

>>384853858
This. In Blazblue you'll never see a bullet make top 8, let alone top 16.

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>>384854110
>Bullet
Literally who?

>>384853503
May's charges are lenient as fuck though.
>>384853998
Always end your air combos with that move where the pumpkin swallows and spits the opponent out. The reason why that move takes long is so that it gives your houses time to spawn.minions and walk towards them. Also dont be shy to use her pillar super when you have houses out even on a whim because like the reason above, the animation takes long so that houses can spawn minions
>>384854110
A Kagura made top 16 in BB at EVO

>>384853132
Jack-O, Raven, Elphelt are all fairly easy to learn too.

>>384854656
>>384853503
I forgot Raven. Raven is braindead as fuck and VERY easy to use. If you want to win without putting much effort, use Raven

>>384854234
I was ending it with that but I didn't think about the houses, that's a good tip

>>384854913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CATiCjQV0
One if the best Jack-O players in Japan. Take note of how he positions his houses off screen where the.opponent cant get to them or atleast makes it awkward for them to go there. He then pushes the opponent to the houses and starts pressure.

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>>384855154
What's that phone shit at the beginning? I don't have Revelator yet.

>>384855668
Phone shit? Which one? What time in the vid?

>>384855668
it's a feature for arcade machine's only
i think it's for keeping track of your wins and losses

>>384855668
In arcades you have a card that stores your player data that you can scan onto any cabinet to play on your profile to keep your stats/rank and what not

>>384855773
Character selection. They just have their character appear on screen.

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>>384794856
Jam, but I wish she was in a better spot since I loved her in AC. I'm glad Teresa managed to make it to top 8 with her though, good on him.
Other than that, it'd be Elphelt and Ky. It used to be Johnny in AC but I couldn't pick him back up in Rev. Also in the process of learning May.
Also, ABA when?

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Milia!

>>384856535
best guilty butt

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>>384856845
Empirically wrong.

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>>384851991
why does everyone complain about dash canceling, its easy as spit.
>back dash
>do 236 like usual, but add an extra 9
wow so hard. literally the only hard thing is backdash into bite while standing, and protip, in most practical situations you can buffer it, you're never going to do it raw while standing

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Is there a chance for Justice to come back?