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Is this shit a meme or is it actually good? I don't particularly

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Is this shit a meme or is it actually good? I don't particularly care much for raiding or pvp much anymore, so how is the story/questing?
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Questing is typical fetch shit. Story starts out slow and takes a long time to pick up, then it's decent. Don't play if you have a low tolerance for repetitive tasks.
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>>384763743
Story is the main thing going for it.
I enjoy it, but there is a lot of the typical MMO quests, like fetching and going back and forth, etc.
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Quests are the worst I've ever seen in a big name MMO.

The delay in actions, forced dismount talking to NPCs, and spotty clicking of items that you're constantly inspecting/picking up makes it very hard to enjoy.

Writing is okay, for an MMO.

A lot of dungeons, many of which you'll see only once.

t. someone who just leveled 1-70, on two jobs.

6/10
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Are we talking recent WoW levels of decent writing or Star Wars where you actually get to interact instead of just being talked too all day?
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Storywise, ARR is pretty eh up till the late part. I like that you start in a different city depending on your starting class and you befriend a different scion/scions due to the difference in location.

HW is mostly good. Expect a bit of facepalming when it comes to the DRG dude making asshat decisions.

Haven't finished SB yet but I've enjoyed the story so far. Muh mhigger gets a bit annoying, but the Doma stuff is good.
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>>384764226
You sometimes get a few canned responses but you don't get to make any actual choices. It's still leagues better than WoW's story which happens mostly in books and has absolutely dogshit writing.
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>>384764471
Sometimes the choices are pretty fucking funny which is a bonus
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>>384764552
SB has been great for the different choices.
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>>384765461
>Doing the sidequest where the merchant wants to sell to the Au'Ra tribes but can't get permission from the mute fuckers
>Have to go convince one of them with emotes
>"She might not like this one..."
>It's /dote
>Extremely exaggerated blown kiss because Roe
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>>384763743

The combat is so fucking boring. Played for 12 hours and couldn't go on. Just not my thing.
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>>384763743
is the blonde girl a virgin
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>>384766137
yes

fully intact, unbroken hymen
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>Doma stuff is good.
Weeb detected
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Get a load of this Mhigger.
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>>384763743
p2p model is a huge fraud. 13-15$ to have 8 characters per server. 13$ for ONE character on ONE server.

Usually when you pay more months in advance you pay less. Fuck this game.
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>>384766329
Mhigger detected
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>>384766480
>wanting more than one character
what's the point
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>>384766480
the real fraud would be f2p model
p2p model also has the added benefit of weeding out niggers and literal kids whith no income because good luck convincing momma to pay a subscription fee in the age of f2p garbage

So, if anything, p2p is a blessing and I hope they won't ever abandon this model.
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>>384766605
The point of learning the fucking game i guess? It is an MMORPG, you casul. If i go PvP without experiencing any of the other characters i am fucked.

I need the anticipation. But you wouldn't know would you, casul?
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>>384766754
>without experiencing any of the other characters
He doesn't know
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>>384766754
you clearly know next to dick about FFXIV
congrats fuckwit
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>>384766754

you do realize you can level every job on a single character right?
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>>384766754
congratulations, you got yourself caught
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It's pretty fun but YMMV.
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>>384765920
Not that I expect to convince you to come back or excuse it, but the combat at low levels is pretty fuckin terrible on like... almost every class. Essentially once you hit 30 and get a jobstone, most jobs become have the core toolset of their class and become mildly fun, and it's uphill from there.

Pugilist is the only class that kinda gets to be okay quickly, as it gets its core combo system by like level 8.
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>>384766480
I spend $25 a month on this game get on my level
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>>384766252
With the amount of martial arts and kicking she does i doubt she still has it in tact. Most athletic girls have it broken on its own doing athletic things
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just started leveling mch again at 60 to get to 70, what's the rotation now with the changes to ammo and a heat gauge?
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>>384767407
also if she ever road a chocobo
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>>384767417
the rotation is switch to BRD
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>>384763743
>road a chocobo
Nigga wut
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>>384767551
He probably meant Rode a chocobo.
Which is the equivalent of riding a horse, you spread your legs wide enough that your hymen can break, supposedly.
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>>384767417
It's essentially just do whatever the fuck you want and when you're about to use Wildfire, just flamethrower to put yourself into overheat and then do it. Outside of your opener you probably won't even need to do that.

Or don't do that and just don't overheat, it really doesn't make much of a fucking difference.
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>>384767551
it is late and I mixed up homonyms
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>>384767768
I see
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>>384767798
I assumed you were just using voice to text you dirty phoneposter
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>>384767831
If you can't tell Machinist is kind of depressing at the moment. I really would suggest trying something different.
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>>384763743
Good, just way too expensive.
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>>384763743
if you like themepark MMOs with hotbar combat then it's great
i really like it personally
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>>384767857
joke's on you, I guess
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>>384767975
>Win 10
>Facebook tab
>Tumblr tab
>Named Vincent
>No gay sex with hats on
No, joke's on you
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>>384763743
Don't ask /v/, just download the free demo and see for yourself.
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>>384768128
hey man

I just follow a lot of artists
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>>384767975
>Facebook
>tumblr
:^)
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>>384767975
>Katie's comic
>machismo comic
You're alright.
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classes are pretty much across the board atrociously boring until 30 and don't cross the border into "fun" until mid 60s-70
leveling takes far too long after you max a single class out because you can't repeat quests
endgame content consists of 6 raid bosses and 3 dungeons and not much else
it's full of weebs literally everywhere, you can't turn a corner without seeing a kirito or a sasuke
you have to fucking dismount to talk to any NPC in the game which is incredibly annoying and will never be fixed
all in all it's a pretty fucking great game, i enjoy it and would recommend it
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>>384769124
leveling is way faster after you max your first class, though

maybe a week to 60 then maybe another week for 70
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>>384769124
>classes are pretty much across the board atrociously boring until 30 and don't cross the border into "fun" until mid 60s-70
i have the shortest attention span with games usually, and i have no fucking clue how i managed to stick with this one. that said, i quit for a couple of months twice during my first 1-70
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>>384769124
I feel you on the weeb names. If they're not named sasuke/kirito, they have some retarded google translated ""Japanese""" surname.
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>playing mmo for the story
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>>384769375
if they're a lizard or started as one, that's what comes up with random name gen
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>>384763743
>story
fine enough, even good for mmo standards
>questing
stuck in 2005, even fucking world of warcraft is more modern than the quests in this
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>>384765461
You'd best believe I told Alphy this wasn't my fuckin' fight.
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>>384769124
>Name shit everywhere
That holds true for every fucking mmo ever
There will ever only be four types of names
>The RP ones
>The funny ones
>The just plane unintelligible
>The unoriginal asshats
Unoriginal asshats are the worst player, and the most stupid people you can ever find.
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>>384769375
You know there's a name generator in-game during character creation, right? And that for Raen the names are all transliterations of real-world middleages Japanese names? That and its lore-friendly to give midlander Hyurs Japanese names.
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>>384769124
>tfw talking to somebody on a mount used to give you a goddamn error saying it wasn't allowed instead of dismounting you
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>>384769738
It's ONLY lore-friendly to use middle-ages Japanese naming schemes for Midlanders if you're roleplaying as a Doman Hyur.
In any other situation it is not lore friendly.
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>>384769572
My favourite was "Know beastman that I'll kill your god if I have to. Maybe even if I don't."
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>when you deploy biship autoturret and hypercharge and the tank holds the enemies out of the aoe
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>>384769873
I'd like for this trend of "The WoL is sick of everyone's shit" to continue.
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>>384765461
>4 different yeses
Wow, such choices. Thanks Yoshi.
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>>384769738
>implying that every other catgirl doesn't have a shitty nip name
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>>384769961
i'm really mad they didn't have anything along these lines for yugiri's idiotic plan in yanxia
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>>384769375
>>384769447
Raen Au Ra (the light horned ones) have old Japanese names for their naming convention.

Xaela Au Ra (the dark horned ones) have old Mongolian names for their naming convenion.

(The other naming conventions:
Highlander Hyur (taller swarthier ones) have medieval Germanic and Normandic names for their naming convention.

Midlander Hyur (shorter fairer ones) have medieval Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, and Briton names for their naming convention.

Both Elezen have faux-French names; males tend to have longer names with silent endings of -x, -t, or -d, females tend to have shorter names with endings -ne, -ette, -elle, or extended vowels like -ie.

Miqo'te Seekers of the Sun have 26 tribes, and will always begin with the letter and an apostrophe for their tribe. Males only have two "family" names- either Tia, which indicates that they are not a breeding male, or Nunh, which indicates that they are a breeding male. Each tribe generally only has one breeding male at a time, though larger tribes may have multiple (usually a 1:50 ratio of Nunhs to females). Nunhs are not often the leaders of their tribe. Females have the first name of their father as their "family" name (That is, without the tribal prefix). So Y'shtola Rhul is Shtola of the Y Tribe, daughter of Y'ruhl Nunh.

Miqo'te Keepers of the Moon tend to have smaller tribes, and are named along matriarchal lines rather than patriarchal. Females tend to have shorter names, but unique names. Males have their mother's names, except with a suffix on their surname indicating their order of birth: In order from first to tenth- 'a, 'to, 'li, 'sae, 'ra, 'ir, 'wo, 'ya, 'zi, 'tan. So a mother might be named Cemi Jinjahl, while her second son would be name Cemi'to Jinjahl. (It's rare that there are more than two or three boys per mother)
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Lalafell have patterned names.
Plainsfolk, the normal-eyed of the two, have an AB - CB scheme for males (Alka Zolka) and a ABB - AB scheme for females (Ulala Ula).

Dunesfolk, the pupil-less ones (has to do with natural protection against desert sands), have males with an AAB - CCB pattern, with A and C being one syllable (sometimes rhyming) and B being two (sometimes appearing as one because of in-world language drift); Momomena Lolomena. Females have an AAB - AB pattern, both one syllable; Tataru Taru. (Royals have their house in the middle; Nanamo Ul Namo)

Roegadyn names are all Descriptor + Noun convention; Sea Wolves use their native tongue (which is kind of a Norse/Welsh feel) and have family names that are basically "son/daughter of dad's name" (-syn or -wyn). Hellsguard use Eorzean tongue (so translated to English for our benefit) and forgo a family name.

Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn= Merl (Sea) + Wyb (Woman) Bloe (Blue) + Fhis (Fish) + Wyn (Daughter)= Sea Wife, daughter of Blue Fish.
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>>384771602
>naming your daughter Sea Wife
what a guy
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Can I be a healer i this game? Can I make clothes for people? Can I be a chef and cook for people?

These are important to me playing an mmo.
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>>384771845
Yes, yes, yes
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>>384763743
Are you talking about Stormblood or the entire game?

Quests are mostly very generic. You may enjoy them just for the sake of learning more about the world but they don't have you doing anything interesting gameplay wise. For story, let's see...

ARR is kinda in the middle. The story isn't terrible but the writing is incredibly padded and you will most likely find it to be a slog unless you are immediately really interested in the setting and wanting to learn everything about the world. The best things about it in my opinion are Gaius who is a pretty good villain and the buildup to Heavensward because some real shit goes down.

Heavensward is just fucking great. Shitty characters fuck off, great new ones are introduced, you get to go on a genuine adventure to unseen mystical lands and the bros you are traveling with make for a fantastic dynamic of characters. The pacing is way WAY better and genuine feels will be had. I get goosebumps from thinking back on Heavensward's story, at least for the Dragonsong War part, I just loved it so much. I don't really want to say much more, just know that it is a big improvement from ARR.

And then we have Stormblood which is just a piece of shit. For the villains we can throw understandable goals and motivations right out of the window. Fuck charisma too, no one needs that. Let's just have a fucking cartoon villain that masturbates to "hate" and the "thrill of combat", that's SO badass! So evil! It'll be the best villain ever! I let my 12 year old son write this villain! But the bad guys aren't the only shitty characters. Lyse is perhaps even worse. The main gal of the expansion is the most vapid, poorly developed, useless fucking cunt that could possibly have dragged herself along with you throughout Stormblood.

I was about to go into a massive rant about this but I'm running out of text so TLDR: ARR is okay, you may like it or hate it, HW is great, if you don't like it you're shit, and SB fucking blows.
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>>384771602
>Sea wife
So THAT'S why she's the best
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>>384772117
>Shitty characters fuck off
But Alphenaud is a large part of stormblood
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>>384772175
Err, heavensward
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>>384770085
The choices don't make a difference, they're just there to give your character some flavor.
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>>384772117
one character in SB makes up for everything else though
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>>384772212
Well that's a whole lot less scions than we had to put up with before isn't it? I think Alphinaud improved a lot from 3.1 to 3.5 anyway. I used to hate him in ARR but I kinda like him now, he's an alright lil fella. It's a shame they had to put Alisae in the spotlight for SB, she was almost as bad as Lyse was.
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>>384772437
She really is. I wish Thancred was around more.
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>>384763743
Best mmo on the market. No, really. What that says about the mmo market is not flattering.
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>>384772592
did wesker do this to her
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>>384772353
>Susanoo loves fighting
>WoL was arguably who summoned him.
>Primals take after the mental state of their summoner.

Yeah you can say it is because he is the lord of Revel and have fun time doing ANYTHING, but why would he go for "LET'S FIGHT TO THE DEATH" immediately if not for WoLs influence when the Blue Kojin said the treasure Kami would let you leave without a fight.
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>>384772990
the Blue Kojin were rusing us
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>>384765461
Man I wish we could get some statistics on this, I wanna know how many people chose the fourth option.
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How do I get "friends" in the game?
You can do most stuff by yourself and everything else is instanced.
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>>384773282
Just be yourself
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>>384773282
Float from FC to FC and try to find a decent comfy group to just hang around with. I know this sounds retarded considering where we are, but try to go out of your way to run stuff with others when you've found a decent group. As you've said, most stuff can be solo'd anyway and that's not gonna change anytime soon.
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>>384773282
Join linkshells and an FC, people put ads in the party finder thing under the other tab all the time for recruits/social
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>>384773282
Join a FC or Hunt LS.

Just because you CAN do shit yourself doesn't mean you should, teaming up gets shit done faster and with better success rate, always check with you FC before doing Duty Finder, you would suprised at how many Tanks/Healers are willing to join in on the old shit and cut out the wait time and ensure you get Content disrespecting pulls/The AoE/Healing to do such pulls while letting you watch cutscenes at your leisure, unlike DF groups.
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>>384772241
>not fl@
fuck off
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I just finished HW main story and I bought a set of Shire gear

Is it worth upgrading it (whatever the method may be) or should I just continue on into SB?
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>>384774060
Continue
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>>384774060
it's barely even worth buying since you get i255 gear from the first SB quests and i260 from the first dungeon
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>>384774097
>>384774116
Thanks, I had enough poetics for 95% of Shire gear so I'm glad I didn't have to grind hard for this shit either.

Gonna do the HW after story quests. Does it suck as much as ARR's? That took too long and was boring as fuck
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>>384774116
Those are both worse than upgraded shire gear. Upgrading now only costs 100 poetics per item.

Stormblood gear wont start to outclass upgraded Shire gear until Violet Tides, and not in any meaningful way until Bardam's Mettle.
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>>384774175
HW's post story is half "why should I care about this" and half "this is fucking amazing"
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>>384774209
Where/How do you upgrade it then?
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>>384774209
or you could spend the poetics on something else, I dunno. A relic or something. Getting Shire gear is pointless since you start getting gear that outclasses the un-upgraded version at 62
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>>384774290
Same NPC you bought it from. Under the Wondrous Sundries tab.

Darkest Gobdip upgrades weapons, Darkest Carbontwine upgrades armor, Darkest Carboncoat upgrades accessories
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>>384774860
Great, another 1200 poetics to farm
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>>384763743

HOW THE FUCK CAN SE MAKE A MMORPG NOT HAVE FUCKALL TO DO LIKE NIGGA HOW CAN YOU EVEN POSSIBLY DO THAT?
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>>384769873
My favorite is still whether or not you remember Moghin's name
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>>384774959
The difference isn't huge. I'd highly recommend getting the upgrades for your weapon, chest and legs. The rest are super optional.
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What's the fastet way to level to 60-61 when I don't have any roulette ready. Playing tank
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>>384763743
Why doesn't she actually have those titties?
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>>384775149
Do some 60 dungeons
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>>384775178
server limitations
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>>384775027
>he doesn't remember
it's moghan
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>>384772241

Not even complaining but Scathach is not stacked like that at all.
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>>384775513
Piss off, Kupo.
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So how are we all coping with the end of the expansion? Now all the new content is out and we're through the other end? Has the reality of the status quo set in set? You're back to raiding and tomestone grinding. Aside from the 5 patches that'll keep you busy for a few days at a time, you've seen everything there is to see for a couple of years.
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>>384764040
>A lot of dungeons, many of which you'll see only once.
>t. someone who just leveled 1-70, on two jobs.
Fancy that
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>Just got PLD to 70
Yo these quests were hype as fuck.
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>>384776259
Yeah yeah very interesting now fuck off back to WoW.
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>>384776259
I'm slowly regaining my life so it's not a bad thing
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>>384769805
*Hingashin
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>>384776259
I enjoy the story content, and have accepted Square Enix is never going to do anything meaningful with the endgame or foster a healthy community by preventing dumbasses from undermining raid clear parties, so I'm happy to resub only for content patches and events. Means I get to enjoy 90% of the meaningful content the game has at a fraction of the hours hardcore players have to invest.
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Subhuman slav here, since the price of the sub increased x3 times for me i can no longer afford it.
Can you guys recommend any f2p mmos? Any mmos with class similar to dragon?
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>>384772437
Eh, I love Alisae just for the fact that she's constantly taking the piss out of Alf.
Alf is better than he used to be, but he's still an annoying little shit.
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>>384776912
>dragon
Eh, i mean Dragoon*
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>>384776912

Tree of Savior has a Dragoon class
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>>384772117
You can fuck off, the Villains were actually the only consistent, solid thing about SB. I would normally dislike these kinds of villains but they were great at being one-dimensional and I think that was the intention.

Lyse and by extensions Ala Mhigo was what made the expansion so bad. The fact that reviews praise it is outright shocking.
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I've been leveling some jobs in the free trial and I have to ask to be sure: Is the "Equip Recommended Gear" option retarded? It worked well enough when I was leveling a WHM since mo' mind = mo' healing and getting hit isn't in the job description, but it seems kind of out of whack with WAR gear. It'll recommend some shit I was using while leveling my healer over heavy armor because the lighter gear has literally one more point of vitality, even if the defense is far inferior. I'm not sure if the system is retarded or I am but I can't see it being worth it.
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>>384776352
The PLD 60-70 Quests are basically what the GLA ones SHOULD have been.
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>>384777368
It is OK, but you have to check for shit sometimes like that. Some gear can be equip on everyone, some on Disciple of War/Magic. Later levels is fine because gear starting becoming based for certain classes and it generally works well.
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>>384777368
It literally just chooses what has the highest ilvl you can wear. It is not smarter than that. Eventually they restrict the classes that can wear gear better, but sub 50 it's gonna continue to not work the way you want it to.

>>384777408
Yeah who would've thought fighting in a Colosseum would fit a gladiator quest chain. Thrilling that we had to go through Paladin retardation just to reach a gladiator style fight.
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>watch some other O4S clear
>MNK now swapped for SAM
>AST swapped for SCH
>WHM is still there
V I A B L E
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>>384775012
>Gold Saucer
>Mount Farming
>Primals/Raiding
>Leveling alt classes
>PvP
>Crafting/Gathering
>tons of beast tribes and side story content

>fuck all to do
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>>384765461
>You can call Alphinaud "Alphy"

Yes, yes...the homoerotic tension builds even greater...all according to keikaku...
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>>384766754
retard
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>>384777738

>Gold Saucer

Played that before HW dropped.

>Mount Farming

Why the fuck would I care about mounts? They all serve the same purpose.

>Primals/Raiding

Already did both, raided up till O3

>Leveling alt classes

You can't gear alt classes with the same ilvl as your main due to retarded weekly limits.

>PvP

Boring, did those while leveling to 70

>Crafting/Gathering

Now you're being retarded, I got 40m and have nothing to use it on besides food for raid.

>tons of beast tribes and side story content

Really now?
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>>384766754
What's the next step in your master plan?
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Long hair keeps clipping through my armour
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>>384777941
>Thinking you'll ever be more than a brief dalliance

Estinien is his OTP
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>>384769437
>FFXI
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>>384777994
All it proves is that yes, there are a lot of things to do, but you don't want to do any of those. It's fine, but you don't get to claim there is fuck all to do.
You can always unsubscribe and get the fuck out.
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turned lvl 50 earlier this month, should I buy the expansion as soon as possible while I do the post vanilla stuff or is there nothing wrong with waiting until I'm done with the base game ?
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>>384777994
Yeah that's a lot of 'I don't want to do this' answers. How about housing? You could decorate or glamour or etc etc etc - and if you do not want to (which is fine), nobody's pushing you to, even the damn producer's pretty straightforward with the 'just unsub till you feel like coming back'
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>>384778146
Had to stop using the Samson locks because of this
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>>384778146
XIV hates long hair (And tails too, but apparently mods can fix this one), people hyped for himecuts will be really disappointed with it.
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>>384778360
I don't think you can level past 50 without the expansion.

And Shtola needs to cover up her panties
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>>384778360
Might as well wait till you're done with the retarded post-ARR stuff, I'm not sure whether or not any of those quests even give exp
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>>384778445
they start giving exp after a while that's why I'm starting to get worried about wasting precious exp
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>>384778293

Every single thing on that list is pointless as fuck because its stuff that I already did and stuff that are irrelevant to the reason that I even fucking bought the game in the first place.

>>384778409

I got a house, spent 120m on it already.
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>>384778445
>>384778489
Post-ARR stuff does give exp. If you just started playing then it doesn't matter but if you already finished the 2.0 MSQ it might be worth buying the expansion so the level walls in Heavensward don't become a problem.
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>>384778157
Even Estinien mentioned in Heavensward that Alphinaud was fretting like a smitten schoolgirl while the WoL was busy killing primals
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How come you guys don't lust over Alisaie?
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>>384778751
Because she's annoying
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>>384778751
She looks like a guy.
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Remember
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>>384778751
Most of /v/ is gay
Presence of an actual vagina scares them
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>>384778859
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>>384778751
I want a threesome with her getting DP'd by both me and Alphi
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>>384778751
I lust over the one that acts like a little girl.
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>>384778751
My dick's already spent on all the Shisui sluts
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>>384766754
Are you this retarded all the time or only right now
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>>384777941
To be fair, you don't make a Paramilitary organization together and have it blow up in your face without gaining some kind of familiarity.

He is still basically "Like a brother to me"-zoned as far as im concerned, but he is definitely the Scion who is the closest to WoL.

>>384778751
Lack of content, aside from their shared scenes in the intro and THE CITY STATES HOLD WAKES questline Alphinaud have been a MSQ since ARR level 30ish or so, Alisae has been in a optional raid that not very many people cleared and and then fucked off for years before returning, at which point Alphinaud gotten a hefty lead in characterization and several chunks of being the "only" Scion available to help WoL. (From Church up to Castrum rescuing, HW until Y'shtola Retrival)

Alphinaud is practically the second main character, even when he is "written out" in SB he is still very relevant and involved.
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>>384778751
My heart goes to Shtola/Yugiri
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>>384779136
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>>384763743
It's alright. It does nothing special. All items are boring, zero procs on any weapons to make them stand out in any way. Basic tab target hit 50 buttons combat.

The story is alright though, it might be fun to play through it just to follow that.
The quests are really shit though no doubt about it. I think out of all big MMOs I ever played, FFXIV has the least inspired quests by far. At least other MMOs sometimes had some fun ones, here it's a never ending chain of kill x bears, collect 5 ears, walk into this purple circle to spawn enemies and kill them. There is zero creativity.
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>>384778751
>Lusting over a girl (female) when there's a girl (male) equivalent
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>That outfit Tataru made for you
why would I wear anything else?
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>>384779329
Tataru is trash
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>>384779107
>Alphy is practically "written out" in SB to give more space to his sister and Lyse
>still did more to help than Lyse herself
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>>384775221
He just said he didn't have any roulettes up, retard.
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>>384779329
Doman imperial uniform is way better.

>>384779375
Truly the best girl.
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>>384772117

yeah, it was so great how they wrapped up the uldah story lol

fuck off, shitter.
SB has the best story so far. shitting on the villians of SB when there is evil pope,evil shadow guys and evil dragon.
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>>384777994
>Already did both, raided up till O3
You mean V3?
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>>384779329
Because it looks like shit.
So does Allisae's.

Urianger caught on to Tataru being a one-hit-wonder seamstress and smartly told her to fuck off.
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>>384779329
It looks awful. A shame, the outfits she gave to the rest of the scions were pretty on point. Wish she would give Thancred a wardrobe update though, he looks like he rolled around in a garbage dump.
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>>384779475
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>>384767975
>MBMBAM
My nigga.
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>>384779475
its D3 retard
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>>384779360
To be fair, the chest piece is pretty nice because you get a necktie which gives nice twist, but i didn't like the boots, monocle or pants.

The fact it comes in a ugly color configuration doesn't help its case either, but it is salvageable to the point i was surprised they just dump it for you with 0 effort required.
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Thancred is ruined
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>>384779471
Pope wasn't completely evil, though. Dumb and too obsessed with his plan, yes, but he still wanted to protect his people, and his plan maybe could work if he had echo.
And SB will get some "shadow guys" in the next patches.
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Currently leveling, just got to 60. Game's fun, I guess. The world feels really small tho. Should I bother looking for the aether currents while I'm leveling my first class?
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>>384779749
>>384779749
Fuck off faggots, it's V3.
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>not オメガ零式:3層
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>>384779329
Because it's fucking trash and the doman imperial uniform is ten times better, with or without the helm?
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>>384779782
I'm the complete opposite, the boots and pants can be made to look alright but the stupid tie looks so out of place with the entire rest of the game. It looks like something that belongs in FFVIII, not the pseudo-fantasy stuff that XIV has going on.
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>>384779329
I'm wearing Shisui
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>>384779329
I don't want to look like a protagonist of a seasonal shonen
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>>384779749
>naming the raids after the tier and not the whole thing

Yeah man I sure did love G4S you fucking retard
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>>384780030
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>>384779817
I've just skipped the aether currents and gone onto SB
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xL0EIA6mg
TO THEIR TRESPASS
WE ARE WITNESS
HERE TO PASS THIS
FINAL SENTENCE
NO FORGIVENESS
NO DELIVERANCE
ONLY JUSTICE
ONLY VENGEANCE

WILLS UNBENDING
FAITH UNENDING
STONE DEFENDING

NOW OUR STEEL SHALL SIIIIING!
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>>384779136
Shtola is bae.

Lyse can't fuck off fast enough.
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>>384779329
Because I want to wear full armor.
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The small scale writing in FFXIV, like the quest text and the descriptions etc are low key really funny.

Turned me from a guy who skips all quest text he sees to a guy who sometimes skims it.
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>tfw no nanamo lala gf to protect
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Revenge Twofold>Stormblood's Theme>Nemesis>Ominous Prognisticks
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>>384779329
Because SE are lazy fucks. She should have given you an outfit that was fitting to the class you were during the quest. Instead we got something that maybe fits for SCH.

Then have there be a sidequest where you can get the other class outfits.

But nope, SE went with the path of least resistance and gave us shit, despite each Scion getting shit fitting for their role.
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>>384780332
Hey, I also think Nemesis is criminally underrated but fuck you Ominous Prognisticks is great.
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>Extremely cute NPC
>Barely in the story
What's her name?
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>>384780517
Fray
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>>384780517
Hilda is extremely cute!
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Does anybody here play on Zodiark? I'm new and looking for friends!
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>>384780332
Revenge Twofold is absolute trash and probably the worst rendition of any main theme in the entire game. It's boring, uneventful and in 3.4 it didn't even fucking loop properly, leaving seconds worth of dead silence before it started up again.
What a trash theme.
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>>384780275
This.
A common example people cite of shit quests in this game is one in the south shroud where you have to fill a bucket with water which has like 7 steps from obtaining the bucket to dunking it on a drunk's head.

Every step of that quest has a questlog entry and an item description with a shining laconic wit. The game is polished to a mirror sheen but people are so jaded and focused on running to the next quest marker they completely miss the love the localisation team poured into it.
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>>384780020
I think it depends on how you see neckties then.

I didn't mind it because at that point i felt like WoL deserved to look snazzy and i already spend basically all of HW in full armor and a Expeditioner's Cap, Ishgard is cold yo, no idea how slutmogs could stand it., and it matches Alphinauds.

>>384780517
Sylphie Sweetwind.

>>384780553 is also acceptable.
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>>384763743
Try the free trial up to level 35 and you can find out first hand. <wink>
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>>384780605
I disagree with your opinion motherfucker
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>>384780517
Gegeruju
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>>384779329
Because the outfit is fuckin' garbage? I tossed it out within minutes of getting it. I can't believe I was mildly excited about finding out what the outfit was going to be.
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>>384780782
>Dragoons get the snake armor instead of the hawk armor
>Dragoons get the Behemoth Queen armor instead of the Rising Dragon armor
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>>384780517
Silvairre and the first Aliapoh
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>>384780517
Moenbryda
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>>384780782
Sylphie is a child
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>>384780729
>The game is polished to a mirror sheen but people are so jaded and focused on running to the next quest marker they completely miss the love the localisation team poured into it.
You mean the ten million memes and pop culture references that'll stop being relevant next year?
Just joking. I promised myself that I'd actually do sidequests and read quest logs for the first time in years in SB and it increased my enjoyment of Stormblood's journey tenfold. Especially the Azim Steppes. I liked that place so much that I almost changed my Xaela's name into something lore-friendly but I don't RP so it's whatever.
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>>384780517
Y'mhitra
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>>384780965
That snake helmet is GOAT so I'm not complaining but I'd kill a man for the rising dragon set.
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>>384780982
And? She was also cute and was taught the errors of her way so she won't grow up to be a healslut who doesn't DPS, would adopt.
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>>384781147
Of all the assets reused from XI, its a shame we don't get more of the armor sets.
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>>384771580
>>384771602
This shit is neat.
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>>384780973
He said cute
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>>384771602
>>384771580
>Tfw made a character with an ethnic name
>Fanta to a different race
>Name now doesn't fit
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>>384780517
i want skaetswys to yell at me
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>>384781292
Are you somehow implying that Moenbryda isn't cute?
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>>384781048
I don't mind the pop culture references so much, but there's at least three fates in the game that are references to the Big Bang Theory and that's just lazy guys.

My only real complaint with the sidequests is that, if they're going to add so many and keep making them worth only like 1/75th of a level, they reeeeaaaaallllly need to give people access to flying earlier. I'm not saying to remove aether currents but I like to prune sidequests as they pop up and this game makes me leave them all until the MSQ bids me to move on (when they give you the final quest current).
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>>384781349
Oi goy sheel out money for a name change.

But really could be worse, at least you didn't fanta gender.
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>tfw retainer commentary makes me feel like shit anytime i summon them during a venture
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>>384781492
But my FC friends are used to my name
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>>384781551
Look anon what is more important, your friends knowing who you are or your immersion.

I mean you can tell yourself "My character is adopted", but you will always know that that is a cop out, and that your ruggedly handsome Roegadyn ain't a Tia-cuck.
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>Lv.69 without resting bonus
>Castrum Abania's "respect the content" mob packs
Fucking kill me
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>>384781789
I have a cute Au Ra Raen
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>>384781456
Pop culture references always struck me as lacking in creativity, especially blatant ones.
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>>384781984
do leveling roulette and main story roulette
pray to god you get Praetorium on Main Story for huge bonus exp
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>>384782089
>Did main story roulette earlier today
>Got Castrum

End it
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>>384782013
I guess I've been in the WoW ghetto for so long that I'm completely insensitive to them anymore. I haven't noticed any of them outside of some puns for fate names.
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>>384780571
Play MCH
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>>384781984
Basically all of SB is "Respect" pulls, even if the tank can pull big your average Group ain't gonna DPS shit down fast enough to really make in any faster then doing small ones since shit is so single target focused and you have blockers so close together that you can't gather up big enough chunks to make the difference that apparent, you can what do 3 packs before a blocker or disconnect at most?

God, i hate the diminishing returns on AoE, it defeats the fucking point of AoE.
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>>384782437
I wouldn't wish that fate on anybody
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>>384782437
Sorry I'm not a cuck
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>>384782465
I mean, AOE's still strong, and mass pulls still speed up dungeons a lot. Castrum Abania's pretty bad about gating you before the 2nd boss, but the rest of the dungeons certainly benefit from large pulls if your dps isn't fucking retarded.

Most the dungeons basically come down to double pull > double pull > boss, with some exceptions allowing you to full pull between bosses, like between boss 1 and 2 in Ala Mhigo, or 1 and 2 in Shisui.
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>ctrl+f
>krile

0 results

How has not one of you posted best girl yet
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>>384779136
Yugiri's a nice lizard
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>>384780517
F'lhaminn

Granny cat is cute
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>>384782921
me in the back
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>>384766754
WHAT A FAGGOT
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>>384782774
>if your dps isn't fucking retarded.
If only anon, if only.
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>>384780204
I still hate how much the stormblood cgi trailer sucked compared to this and the answers one
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>>384782906
She deserves no compliments
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>That feel when you're an absolute shitter who keep fucking up O3S mechanic and slowdown your whole FC clear
>But they keep telling you that everything is fine even though you know it's your fault we haven't cleared yet

Is there worst feeling?
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>>384783207
Yeah at this point I just put up with DPS queues for dungeon content because I don't want to put up with figuring out if my party's worth a shit as a tank, and I'm comfortable enough on Monk that I can put out great damage without really paying attention.
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>>384783345
Being a tank and fucking up and knowing that the whole party's just too scared you'll get pissy and leave if they criticize you. I just want someone to call me a retard so I can move on from my mistake.
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>>384778186

Nobody played that for the story. Not saying the story was bad mind you but nobody played it for the story.
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>>384783207
Whatever role you play, 60% of the time the people playing other roles are fucking retarded.
>Tank pulls single packs
>Healers don't DPS
>DPS don't use AoE rotations
holy fuck I actually wish I could pay your sub so you would stop being such a fucking shitter
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>queue for roulette
>taking a while
>i'll just do my job quest
>solo instance
i guess i'll shitpost on 4chen instead
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>>384783093
If you want to get more of her backstory level your Alchemist.
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>>384781995
>cute
>Raen
>fish face
>cute
Xaela > Raen
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>>384763743
It's better than retail WoW and private servers.
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>>384782921
>Yugiri is first lizard
>Is also the only good one.

Really makes you think.
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>>384783667
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What's the fastest method to feed your shitty hw relic these days? Just Sohm Al hard over and over again?
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>Going at Susano EX
>Is in OT phase during P2
>Stack mechanic rolls in
>Decide to passage that shit to help the healers
>Half the party runs out of the passage cone, including the marked player and both healers
>They all die
>RDM wont ress
>"Just wipe it guys :D"
>It happens again
>"But why dident you guys move with us? :<"
Why cant people stand in the fucking passage cone? Its not that fucking hard and you take 15% less dmg from huge aoe shit.
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>>384784005
if passage is the break point for whether or not your group clears then you have more serious problems than them not standing in passage
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>>384784005
RDM's have limited mana pools and ressing half the party is pointless since it's pretty much unrecoverable at that stage, especially if they're that dumb.
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Would it be better to put VIT VI on my accessories to do O3S as a DPS?
I saw a lot of other DPS with 38k HP and I wonder if it would help.
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>>384784141
Passage wasent the break it or make it, it just that when 3 people take the stack attack from Susano, they fucking die.
I just pulled passage to make it easier on the healers, and as it dosent really come in handy anywhere else during that fight, so why not use it?
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>>384783886
Please respond.
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As a tank, should I always be doing double pulls? How about more?

When I go into dungeons I don't know if I'm doing it too slowly, especially in places where I've never done before and don't know about spawns
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>>384784375
Look at the amount of damage you get and decide on that. How fucking stupid is that kind of question?
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>>384784375
Depends on your healer ofc, If healer is so bad that it cant handle multipulls, you do single ones.
Also, you kinda learn when and what packs you can pull like a madman.
Just remember to use your effing CDs.
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>>384784375
If it's your first time, you don't know the healer, and you don't know the dungeon, and you aren't super confident about your abilities - just fuckin single pull. If it's early into content's lifecycle I'll ask a DF healer if they're cool with full pulls, and if they're cool it's go-time full speed.

If it's something everyone should know, the healer has alright gear and doesn't have a sprout icon, I will double/full pull without hesitation. Worst case scenario we die and take it a little slower afterwards.
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>>384784005
>half the party dies
>rdm sacrifices half his dps to get them back up
>they do roughly nothing because of weakness
>you just wipe again later anyway
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>>384784340
because you're not doing damage when you're channeling passage

if those idiots are too stupid to do mechanics properly just leave and find a better group
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>>384779415
Hi anon, there are other tabs in the duty finder that allow you to play dungeons individually, this is usually how to players you help in the roulette enter the instance :)

Hope you're enjoying your summer break friend, please leave when school comes back
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>>384783667
their face options are the fucking same you mongoloid
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>>384784921
Face 1 being the cutest
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>>384784375
Start with a double see how the healer/dps acts, then adjust accordingly.

and there are situations where it might be better to do single just so the shit that needs to die fast will die fast, like when BEEEEEEEEESSSSSS FINARU STINGU is involved, it might be stunnable, but stuns have their own draw backs, Shield Bash got low frame of you actually pulling it off since it is on GCD, and the kick enjoys its cooldown making it that if a second+ Bee casts FS before it finishes you are fucked.

It might be babbys first tank buster, but it is a deadly bee weapon worth respecting, not that you really ever get the opportunity to pull THAT many Bees.
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Can anyone post the finished PLD relics from ARR?
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>>384785362
>>384784604
>>384784573
Thanks guys, tanking is pretty fun
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>>384772117
HW story is fucking garbage other than the Dragon Song war parts, final steps of faith is close to my favorite fight, The music syncing up with those Ahk Morns was truely awesome.
What square did with thordan was a shame, interesting character thrown away so quickly.
The worst sin of HW has to be Warriors of Darkness tho, utter garbage.
The Nanamo retcon ruined the expac for me tho. Unforgivable.
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>>384771602
Part of the reason I play Roe because Roe names are secretly cool as hell and coming up with good-sounding ones is pretty damn fun.
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>>384785301
You're not wrong at all
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>>384779136
>>384780229
>Waifuing Miss Written Out of Both Expansions
You'd get more charm and personality from fucking a bowl of oatmeal
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Is the easiest way to level up CUL to 70 that one leve quest with the Loquat Juice?
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>>384779136
>My heart goes to Shtola
Oh god, is this really where we are with Y'shtola waifufaggotry? Calling her 'Shtola' now?

You people are quickly becoming as bad as fucking Lightning drones.
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>>384783252
To be fair here Thancred lost his charming personality after being in the Lifestream. Him brooding so much is so disappointing after seeing him acting like a ladies man and going out with two girls at once.
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Why do Au Ras never talk
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>>384785992
Thancred being a ladies man, but also failing miserably at it occasionally and drinking himself under the table was one of the few good things about the Scions.
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Is there some lore reason why Padjali aren't a playable race?

I kind of like them.
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>>384785992
>Loose his ability to cast magic
>Unable to find his daughter
Hurrr why he's not the happy go lucky Thancred anymore?!?!
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>>384765461

I choose the 4th one just because you can call him Alphy and I'm 100% sure almost everybody did the fucking same.
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>>384786123
Because when they start talking we remember why it's for the best they don't.
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>>384786138
>wanting pedobait in the game
And aren't they specifically tied to Gridania or and white magic or something?
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>no RDM mechanic where you fuck up mana and your character's hair turns red
shame
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>>384786138
They are basically pawn of the Elementals
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>>384786138
they're rare in the first place and gridania isn't going to let the spiritual leaders of their nation run around picking up rocks and slaying rats and shit
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>>384786138
They're forced from birth to serve as Seedseers to interpret the will of the elementals.

>>384786154
The whole wrap up of the Sultana's 'assassination' was fucking awful and completely pointless.
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>>384786154
>Hurrr why he's not the happy go lucky Thancred anymore?!?!
Because the game can't be bothered giving him enough screentime or character development to get over it.
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>>384786259
More than being the "spiritual leaders" they are basically the only way to communicate with the Elementals.
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>>384786214
>>wanting pedobait in the game
You say that like Lalafell don't exist.
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>>384786415
Anyone fapping to lalas is a toddlercon.
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>>384786214
>>384786254
>>384786259
>>384786312
I guess that makes sense. I don't know a lot about Final Fantasy.
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good taste
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>>384786159
I just took it as the "I don't really care about Ala Mhigo, but your my bud so i got YOUR back" option, but yeah, it is the "best" option.

Especially since Ala Mhiggers in general gone out of their way to antagonize WoL several times across the years.
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>>384786567
Fuck you
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>>384785653
My Ala Mhigger
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>>384785961
That old crone calls her that
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a majority of reddit is already clearing o3s and o4s that they already have guides and diagrams made for it
what's your excuse /v/?
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>>384786765
My FC is tiny and I don't have enough people to form a group while randos are hilariously bad at 1.0s and statics don't want me because i'm a DRG main
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>>384786765
I thought o1s is easy? Why aren't they clearing it?
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>>384786537
The first thing you should know about Final Fantasy is that the FFs that share a setting are the exceptions. As a rule, each FF is its own thing while borrowing certain mainstay elements, like chocobos or jobs (classes).

Padjals are an Eorzean thing, as far as I know.
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Im sure gathering rates are gimped as fuck on purpose and arent based on chance, try to catch me gather something with a 13 percent chance of gathering and you wont see me get jack shit for 30 minutes. There has to be some form of bot detection script that slows you down or some shit. mad as fuck
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>>384786567
Shatotto is pretty cool gal, but fuck that opinion in particular.
I play BLM because I get to wear all kinds of pointy hats.
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Just made my trial character. An archer, so I can fight from a distance! Wish me luck!
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>>384786984
Have fun anon.
Before long you'll be singing the song of your people.
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Minfilia's dead right
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>>384787025
I looked the jobs up and I'm not sure if I want to play as a bard, but I like playing as archers. You can play as basically anything, right? So I figured I'd play as an archer and then just level a bunch of other things up until I find what I really like the most. Truth is I was really struggling to choose a class so I just went with archer.
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only mmo I'm currently enjoying is sw tor

the class stories are cool af, don't know about shadow of revan or et or that other stuff, I've only been playing class stories yet
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>>384787130
Honestly Bard is just the same as Archer but you throw in a few songs with different effects while doing damage
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>>384787097
not really but she's not coming back for a while
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>>384787229
Nice
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>>384787186
Oh, I see. I like the idea of ninja. I also kinda wanted to play a pugilist but apparently it's fast-paced and up-close and that sounds like a bad idea for an idiot like me. Can you tell me how to find people to play with taking the fact that I'm on a trial account into consideration, pretty please?
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>>384787097
She went to WoDs home planet.

She will probably return, but not in the forseeable future.

She is basically in the same narrative state as Omega was for the duration of HW, written out but ready to be pulled back for a Deus Ex Machina with Raid potential.

Because let's face it, we WILL get a WoD rematch.
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>>384787097
She fucked off to WoD's world to act as a pressure valve for Light, from what I understood.

The plot was retarded.
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>>384785961
>Calling her 'Shtola' now?
It's her name. The Y' is her tribe name.
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>>384787295
You can join FCs if you want. Check the Party Finder and there's bound to be people recruiting.
Ninja is fun. It's fast-paced and you use mudra combos to use different attacks.
Monk is also fast-paced and requires a lot of positionals but it's actually one of the easier DPS to play.
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>>384786765
My excuse is that you have to go back.
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>>384787564
Thanks, my dude. Am I correct in saying that the class I chose doesn't matter at all and once I level a few up to a certain point it'll be as if I chose any one of those at the beginning?
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>>384787640
Any job lower level than your highest job gets +100% experience gain below 60 and +50% from 60 onwards. That applies to all experience gained besides quests.
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>>384787564
Monk isn't that easy. It's about average.
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>>384772117
I politely disagree! ^o^
i found SB to be the best so far, i found the ala mhigan resistance (Lyse, in particular, to be very well written, voiced, and very likable personalities!) i loved the Doman cast, as well!

i can't wait to see where it goes from here, this is the first time since 1.0 i've been invested in the story. HW almost got me there, but not quite, ARR bored me to death.
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>>384787779
Oh, nice. Does that apply to classes too before it becomes a job? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I really am new! Thanks for the help so much!
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>>384787640
Yeah you can sufficiently level any job in the game without detriment. Once you reach level 15 you can head to any of the city-states and pick a job at will.
3 jobs are locked behind the HW expansion and 2 behind SB though.
>>384787837
t. MNK main
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>>384787640
Once you've done the level 10 class quest for the class you choose, you can go to any of the ARR class guilds and unlock that class at level 1, and all you have to do to swap between them is swap your weapon.
For HW jobs, you need to have done all of the ARR content (and so be level 50 on at least one job) and they start at 30.
For SB, they relaxed this, so you only need one job at level 50, regardless of your main story progression. You don't even need to have finished the ARR stuff, let alone the HW stuff. These ones start at 50.
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>>384786965
>Wearing bulky, pointy hats
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>Burned out on running with a static after Creator
>Decide to just casually pug this tier
>Clear o1s with pugs in half an hour, drops my ring
>Clear o2s in a lockout the day after, drops my helmet and I also win the accessory upgrade

Should I even bother trying o3s? Surely it's harder than this?
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>>384787564
Whats the hardest class to play in your opinion ?
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>>384787938
>>384787948
And classes become jobs when they reach level 30, r-right? Is there a guide to this stuff or should I stop worrying about it and just play?
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>>384788043
I played every DPS sans Bard in 3.X and the only one that I remember struggling to really "figure out" and maximize my numbers with was Summoner
>>384788097
Yes, they become jobs but the gameplay stays the same and your skills just progress from there.
Just play the game and things should come naturally to you.
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>>384788097
since stormblood, yea
just find a class you like and get to at least 50 with it
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>>384787958
>not wearing the biggest, pointiest, most magnificent hat you can get your hands on
As expected from a cat.
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>>384787938
I main dragoon actually, but after the simplification of jobs all around, monk is middle-tier. Bard is certainly a lot easier now, Summoner is as easy as ever, Dragoon was dumbed-down significantly, etc.
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>YFW you realize that you actually solo all the group content and the Scions talking about your ADVENTURER FRIENDS is just them humoring you like they did Ydalyse.
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>>384788187
>>384788195
Thanks, friendos.
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>>384788024
From what I've gathered in the past few days, it's more of a longer fight to learn. The mechanics are brief, simple, and easy to identify. So it's a fight you need to put time into really.
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>>384785715
True, but that's not saying much given the other options.
>>384785961 --> >>384787445
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>>384787932
I think you need to get it to max level before you get the off-class bonus.
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How does the story and combat hold up to ESO or pre-expac GW2?

Story in ESO was okay to pretty good once I came to terms with the fact that things are watered down for the mainstream crowd and served more as an hook for people to look up lore.
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Dungeons and raids are really solid, game offers pleanty of challanging and rewarding content. The story quests are TEDIOUS AS FUCK though, and there are MOUNTAINS of story quests which pretty much all suck (200 in the vanilla game alone).

After you finish story and hit 50 is when the game gets good, pic related. Also, you should only have to put up with the shitty story quests once, since every character and be every class, theres no reason to make another character
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>>384778751
Alisaie has her heart set on Alphinaud
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>>384783886
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>384788571
I hated every second of the GW2 story so it's a lot better even though I have not been paying any attention to it. The combat in XIV is standard mmo combat and whether that's better or worse is up to you.
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>>384788864
How's class balance? Is it a slog to get better gear? Are dungeons and raids fairly forgiving, or will wipes occur if a single mistake occurs?
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>>384783886
But why though?
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>>384783886
>>384788651
Light step? Alex 1 Savage, there is always a unsync farm party on PF.
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>doing BLM quest in the year of our lord 2017
>Speak with Kazagg Chah at Burgundy Falls
ENOUGH

>>384788991
Class balance is good with a couple outliers
It's a slog at endgame but those are gated anyway
The latter unless you're well prepared
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I'm lvling SCH through dungeons to level my SMN. Is that a good idea?
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>>384789182
>ENOUGH
>he doesn't have level 2 riding speeds
Fucking shitter!
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>>384789547
yes, SCH queues are faster and sometimes healer is in need for roulettes so more EXP.
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>>384789547
You're only missing out on actual SMN combat experience and maybe caster gear, so more or less yeah.
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It's shit
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>>384787364
Most of HS was retarded.

Its just we have retards going full Zelda cycle defending it now.
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>>384789680
Worth noting that SMN combat's gonna be rough if you don't have the learning curve of levelling.
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>>384785762
Anyone?
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>>384788991
>class balance
Pretty good but theres some standouts like Paladins being stright better than the other two tanks in every way and MNK/NIN/BRD/BLM/RDM bullying SAM/DRG/MCH/SMN out of parties.

Honestly the only jobs that feel shitty to play right now are SMNs and DRGs since the way they play in raids just does not work right due to their shitty build up mechanics and MCH's being a random mess.
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>>384766605
Boredom and dressup. When you max everything out on one character some people with nothing better to do make a fresh character. I've had friends that did it, it's pretty fucking stupid. As for changing your character's looks, fantasia's a much cheaper alternative.
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>>384783252
Its the lala voices that get me in this game...they just don't fit at all
>3 foot high midget woman with cat ears on the hood
>has the voice of a 50 year old british nanny
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>>384780553
>>384780782
Fray is canonically a man. Only the darksideFray is a female if you're a female.
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>>384790116
>SAM being bullied out of parties
Are we playing the same game?
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>>384790167
>>has the voice of a 50 year old british nanny
>playing with english voices
Your own fault.
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>>384790369
I'm already a weeb for playing this game, why make it worse by switching the voices to jap
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>>384790323
Yes.
Sam is useless in savage parties and mnk outright makes sam redundant
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>>384789680

Ah but I already have SMN exp. I have lvl60. What I lack is SCH experience. I don't even have the job skills since lvl30.
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>>384790426
Once you go weeb, you can't go dubbin'.
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>>384763743

kill 10 ladybugs, with some cringe animé dialogue every now and then

also if you thought WoW was dumbed down, rotations are designed to be foolproof in ARR and yet the community at large still struggles to keep up with the latest raid tier.

avoid at all costs.
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>>384790116
Nostrand is so unbelievably shit, it doesn't even do that much damage.
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>>384790323
NIN has utility out the ass and high damage and MNK is completely retarded right now.
Because you more or less have to bring a BRD and RDM/BLM you just can't fit a SAM in the party.
Blame yoshis retarded limit break system
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>>384763743
if you're going to buy the game, buy the damn level 60 boost and main story quest(MSQ) completion packages. Holy fuck this games structure is terrible when it comes to reaching end game.
I was level 28 when I realized I needed to do the MSQ to get my mount which is attainable behind the MSQ wall, same goes with dungeons.
Being forced through the MSQ is cancer.
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>>384790428
I'm not disagreeing but your hyperbole of them being bullied out is factually inaccurate in regards to SAM.

MCH/DRG/SMN you have right though.
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>>384790739
960 potency attack is not much to you?
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>>384790798
If MMO questing is cancer then why play MMOs in the first place?
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How do we even fix smn? What's the soonest they can actually give them anything? I can't believe they gave them nothing this patch but they immediately buffed the fuck out of BLM, SCH, and Warrior.
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>>384791063
I thought the current issue with SMN was it does do good damage, but it's dull to play and if you die during your rotation you are punished ridiculously for it.
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>>384790967
Yeah it's nothing compared to every other job in the game.
It's actually tiny.
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>>384791063
What's wrong with SMN? Last I checked they're the same damage as RDM and easier to play.
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>>384789803
Nothing pen and paper, a decent youtube video if someone's made one and a couple of hours in front of a dummy and then some random dungeons won't fix.
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>>384791195
>anything
>easier to play than rdm
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>>384790873
Brotherhood and Mantra push MNK over SAM which is why all the autistic nip guilds left SAMs behind of on the day 1 kills.
I do agree its not like SAM is dogshit or anything, its that when people are minmaxing autism it gets left behind. Same issue with BLM honestly.

>>384791063
Revamp the whole class, you do everything perfectly and line up your aetherwurm perfectly so you dont get fucked by bosses going untargetable and the only payoff is you do the same damage as everyone else. You fuck up in any way and your damage is tank levels.

>>384791195
RDM is literally the easiest most braindead dps in the game.
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>>384791195
You got that backward, SMN is the hardest class to play at full potential while RDM just mashes buttons and tops dps
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>>384791167
>It's dull to play
That's subjective. I mean I agree that tanks and healers are boring as shit to play but you still got tons of people who main them.
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>>384791421
What are you smoking? Tanks and healers are the least played classes by a mile which is why any roulette that doesnt shit out 300k gil has >30 minutes of queue for DPS
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Is BLM any good?
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Is this game worth playing on ps4 without a keyboard? I have like a month of free time to kill and I was thinking about just getting the base game and playing it but I'm not really into the whole social thing and I'd rather play on the couch with a controller.
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>>384791386
How is SMN hardest to play? You literally have 2 dots instead of 4 now. Your pet controls itself. You spam Ruin 3 and it randomly turns the same button into Ruin 4.

Meanwhile on RDM you're constantly staring at a meter and have to press more buttons
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>>384791590
Yes and pretty fun to play. The issue is RDM has an instant res spell and BLM does not so people working on progression bring a RDM over one.
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>>384791590
It got buffed out of the ass and is fun as fuck to play now
>mfw 60 second triplecast
just call it quadruplecast
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>>384791021
>If MMO questing is cancer then why play MMOs in the first place?
What is endgame Alex?

Questing isn't cancer. Being forced down a particular line of quests just to progress is cancer, especially old content story quests.
There are 423 MANDATORY quests before you can even start the new expansion content.
Those 423 quests also occupy more time than it would take to get to level 60 through other means. Hell you're probably over level 60 by the time you're done with quest 423
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Why didn't he want to sprint
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>>384785762
Yes. Also whenever it's a collectible.
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>>384791642
>I'm sub 70th percentile: the post
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>>384791751
Fuck that completely kills my drive to play. I just like doing dungeons.
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>>384791834
Maybe he plays Midlander female and he loves their girly jogging
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>>384791167
It does less damage than RDM. The change in playstyle from HW is a contentious point but I don't think it's the key issue. It's that they essentially ramped up the skill requirement when they said they were doing the opposite for all jobs and it just doesn't have the damage to justify that. Other than dying fucking up your entire fight damage harder than any other job a ton of shit is really awkward like using addle as a damage ogcd and Bahamut losing his mind if you move and devotion being a dumb ability. RDM is substantially easier with better utility, damage, and mobility. It could be an issue with the encounters just not being SMN friendly but I think a lot of the class is just so rigid and your damage isn't even that great if you do everything flawlessly compared to the rdm who fucks up mechanics and raised like 4 people during prog.
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>>384790873
A lot of memeing on /v/, reddit, and in-game made a lot of players believe that SAM is somehow wanted in parties. Just wait a while and the "SAM is useless!" memes will change the general consensus.
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>play SAM
>other SAM meditates at the exact same time as me twice
>play BLM
>other BLM uses between the lines at the exact same time as me after mechanics
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>>384791383
That level of minmax has relevance but it's touted as relevant to 90% of people when that's just not even close to true.

Half the fucks that chase the comp don't perform well enough on the classes they play as it is.
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>>384791834
you don't pay his sub.
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>>384792051
>not using meditate as an oGCD to fish for procs for free kenki
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>>384791751
>people complain in WoW that old content is dead
>FFXIV finds a way to make old content always relevant even 4 years after it's been out
>"WAAAAAHH FUCK THIS SHIT I WANT TO SKIP IT ALL SO I CAN BE BORED FASTER WHEN I FINALLY REACH ENDGAME I HAVE 0 KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON CUZ I PAID TO SKIP IT"
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>>384767102

I played Pugilist, upgraded to Monk and played it to around level 40, but the mechanics themselves make having fun impossible.
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>>384790116
Dragoons having two five gcd long strings is such insane design.

>>384790369
English voices get so bizarre when you get to not-japan.
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If I finish this will I be able to adopt T'kebbe.
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>>384763743
Story is great while it's in Doma

Ala Mhigo can go fuck itself though
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>>384790657
I know you're just shitposting and your opinion is completely uninformed, but screwing up xiv's rotations is much more punishing than wow's.
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>>384791896
So do the dungeons.
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>>384791383
I'm seeing nips use SAM over MNK and SCH over AST already
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>>384791617
Don't forget the free trial up to level 35
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>>384792060
Hey I fully agree, our group runs a SAM because the dude fucking hates the way MNK plays now. But there are people autistic enough to minmax for that extra few percent.
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>>384791910
Nah!
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>>384790167
Literally why in the fuck would you not switch to JP? Said potato has one of the cutest VAs with the cutest voice. Who also plays htis game and has a potato who looks just like her
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>>384791617
It's fine. At the very least read your tooltips and don't fuck your role up, don't really need to talk much.
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>the fish gets away with your suspending minnow
>the fish gets away with your suspending minnow
>the fish gets away with your suspending minnow

Fuck this, it's not like each lure costs me 50 fucking scripts or anything.
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>>384792462
>FSH
there was your first mistake
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I love how people autism class viability constantly but no one ever argues that NIN isn't and has been for years a broken piece of shit auto include class.
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Are Au Ra scales rough? I wonder if their panties sometimes get torn and fall off
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Post some level booster stories/encounters. I need a good laugh or cringe.
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>>384790798
Yeah if you're interested in exploring the world and doing quests and seeing content at your own pace, then you can just buy ARR and move on to the other expansions as you get to them, but if you're only interested in endgame and are thinking "oh I'll just power through the levelling content real fast" do yourself a favour and buy the boosts right off the bat.
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>>384792335
I'm the MNK and I took a SAM into my group because it was them on SAM or take his goon.

What's to hate about MNK? Nothing has really changed about it since 2.1. More tools for GL maintenance and free damage is about it.
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>>384792589
soft and bendy like sneks
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>>384790369
While the english voiceover may be subpar at times and might not always fit certain characters, it has a significant advantage over the japanese voiceover in that it doesn't make me want to drive nails through my ears after listening to it for more than 2 minutes.

I don't understand how anyone can listen to that gobbledygook for extended periods of time. Fucking industrial noises are more pleasing to the ear than japanese is.
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>>384792589
Lizard girls are so small
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>>384792150
It's not relevant at all though. It's just long series of hoops you have to jump through to get to the relevant stuff.
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>>384792705
KA KA KA
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>>384792595
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is WHM more fun than AST?
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MCH is really fun stop bullying it
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>>384792705
You mean you don't like SUGOOI AWAAAWAA moans? Clearly you are a cuckhold
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>>384792775
It is relevant when you do old content through roulettes and you have to still walk through old zones even if you're level 70
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>>384778751
Alisaie is my girl
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Daily reminder there is nothing wrong with summoner and if you think so you need to git gud.
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Are Honoroit and Emmanellain gay
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>>384792801
>Your average Malboro retard
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>>384791890
Still doesn't change my point that SMN is not hard at all to play. If you can't manage 2 ticking icons then you need to kill yourself.
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Anyone know if you get 15 days for leveling to 30 on a prefers server?
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>>384792876
We're talking about the awful slog that is playing through two expansions worth of bullshit before you get to the start of the current content, not that sometimes you get old content in roulettes.
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>>384791063
Rework the whole class to use the pet. Grant a lot of utility but make it hard a fuck to execute.
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>What Stormblood could have been without PS4 limitations
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>>384792181
Maybe if Yoshida remembers what he was supposed to do with custom deliveries.
Considering that he already forgot about "using squadron units in dungeons" (NPC allies? Retainer 2.0? It's a mystery), taking NPCs to Gold Saucer, summoning primals on overworld (though he talked about it again a few months ago), and a few other promises that I also forgot, you really shouldn't expect too much from it.
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>>384793197
If you think level 50 content is a slog, then you will think the same of level 70 content. Why are you paying money to skip content you hate before and now?
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>>384793269
>still held back by 32-bit players
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>>384763743

Play it for all the "achievement" based shit. Housing, chocobo customization, fashion, pets, rare mounts, etc. the game literally has tons and tons of gameplay
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>>384793269
More like
>What A Realm Reborn could have been without PS3 limitations
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>>384793269
>a mock UI from 1.0
It would've been nice but no, it was never going to happen.
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>>384792752
I wish we had option for big amazon lizard girls.
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>notice WHM is aoe healing with Medica 2 exclusively
>ask if he wants a tip, says yes
>tell him about Medica 1/Cure 3
>he doesn't even have them on his hotbar because they're "wastes of space"
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>>384792495
Don't get me wrong, I usually like fishing, but it's been hell in SB.

>fucked leveling curve, collectables are a no-go because they're too rare AND you almost need them to be "HQ" to have enough collectability
>have to use red scripts to buy lures to be able to farm yellow scripts, said lures seem to break every 5 casts
>yellow scripts are hell to farm because the payoff for time invested is terrible. Only reliable way to farm them is spearfishing but even then the shadow node needs to have the HQ bonus if you want more than 10 scripts per 10 min

Fishing is already far less profitable than MIN and BTN so why make it so painful ?
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>>384793317
What did he say about open world primals a few months ago?
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>>384766480
>He's not locked into legacy pricing
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>>384793119
Managing the dots is like a fifth of the kit
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>>384792150
>people complain in WoW that old content is dead
Well old content is dead, that's just how an MMO works, this xpacs purples get replaced with greens and you move on.
>FFXIV finds a way to make old content always relevant even 4 years after it's been out
Is it below level 60? It's not relevant, just like wow pre whatever level they're at now content.
Could you imagine starting a new guy on wow and then having to play vanilla to 60, do vanillas patch content, then do TBC, then do TBCs patch content, then do Wrath and then Wrath's patch content, rinse and repeat with the next several expansions. Googdluck finding a 40 man raid group for AQ40 and good luck doing the nonexistant Naxx40
>I HAVE 0 KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHATS GOING ON CUZ I PAID TO SKIP IT"
I know whats going, I tank bosses, dodge things, do fight mechanics, and bitch about DPS standing in fire. Standard MMO procedure.
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>>384793595
>open world primals
odin
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>>384793602
What the fuck else is there to manage? You have 2 giant gauges slapped in your face that are impossible to mismanage orc confuse. Your pet is on auto pilot.
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>>384791834
Post some DF stories
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>>384793484
I didn't know cure 3 was an aoe for years.
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>>384778751
I do because shes voiced by my seiyuufu
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>>384793626
>this xpacs purples get replaced with greens and you move on.
the gear changes but you're still doing the same old dungeons, bosses, and content.
>Is it below level 60? It's not relevant
it is relevant though. you still see level 60 instances in party finder all the time.
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>>384778751

because Alisaie is too much of a nerd for a regular relationship. You'd have to go right for mindbreaking rape
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>>384793626
It is relevant because everyone continually does it in roulettes.
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>only FFXIV rep in other games is fucking Y'shtola
>Not Estinien
>Not Thancred
>Not Nero
>Not Louisoix
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>>384793448
should have made the raen the smaller tribe and xaela the amazon/adonis one.

if only they do this for viera like their concept art...
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>>384793920
Louisoix is dead, let him go.
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>>384793383
I don't understand how you don't understand it.

End game content is fun.
The thousands of hours of tedious shit that you have to grind through before you can participate in the end game content is not fun.

I am not paying to grind through old dead content that I hate.
I am paying to play the current end game content.
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>>384793920
All of that XIV rep stuff was from when 2.0 was still early.

At least now the characters have unique outfits.
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>>384793595
It was one of the SB interviews. He said something like "we initially worked on it based on a small population, but the game got more popular than we expected so the original idea wouldn't work and we decided to work on something else instead". He said he wants to implement it at some point, but no official plans.
I will try to find it, but goddamn there are interviews everywhere. The "dating with NPCs" is from the korean live letter, for example.
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>>384793918
What does that have to do with the relevance of the MSQ? O wait because I have to do the MSQ just to have access to a dungeon whos entrance I could just walk to in the 1st place but I arbitrarily can't enter it JUST CUZ
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>>384793971
>still no phoenix egi glamour
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>>384794052
so you live to do a 10 minute boss fight and then unsub for a year?
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>>384794130
Isnt that a good thing? Why would a person randomly wander into tons of dangerous locations without any known incentive or reason?
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>>384763743
Has there ever been a good Final Fantasty?

All are shit, in both gameplay and story.

Except Tactics.
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>>384792150

It seems that his grievance is more related to content gating, rather than level scaling.

It's a good thing to make past content scale to level so you can still do old world content for the sake of progression. ESO does this to an extent; while it's not really efficient, you can still do zone questing at max level to gain experience or to see the story without it being a huge waste of time.

It sounds like FFXIV locks a lot of content or QoL stuff behind long questlines that weren't so bad if you played all of the latest content as soon as it came out, but it might be a huge slog to someone who is just now joining in.
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>>384793746
You don't even understand the fundamentals of endgame encounters, why do you think you can talk?
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>>384794130
it's like complaining that you can't enter a dungeon because your gear sucks
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>>384794052
So when a new expansion comes out, does the old endgame content that you found fun and have been playing for hours upon hours suddenly become not fun just because the level it was designed for is no longer the max?
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>>384794326
You don't understand shit either, you can't even do proper reading comprehension.
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>>384794379
That's exactly how WoW babbies see it, yes.
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>>384793946
They won't because it's too much work
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>>384794479
i know, they go the easiest and laziest route they can.
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Is the starter edition fine?
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>>384793761
This will be your mentor healer for tonight
Also
>Player search about her EB
Do their husbands never ask their healslut to play a tad better
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>>384763743
>I don't particularly care much for raiding
then this game isn't for you
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>>384794426
You don't understand how encounter mechanics can make it harder to achieve optimal dps especially when you class has to ramp for 3 minutes on which the majority of their DPS hinges?
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>>384794551
Yeah, it's basically just ARR (the worst part of the game) sans expansions
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>>384780517
Jandelaine
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>>384794619
> encounter mechanics can make it harder to achieve optimal dps
WHAT FUCKING MECHANICS MAKES IT HARDER TO COUNT 2 NUMBERS IN YOUR HEAD
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>>384794153
I play mmos to progress through new content with the bulk of the community. The shared experience is what makes it fun.

>>384794379
Yes, because you'd be the only person still doing it.
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>unlock Mentor so I can have another Roulette for bonuses
>requires completion of all Extreme Trials
and I'm out
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>>384792495
>FSH
>Mistake
Meanwhile I made over 20M in 2 days by selling FSH stuff
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>>384794706
>Yes, because you'd be the only person still doing it.
But you aren't the only person still doing it, that's the point, plenty of people still run content that used to be the endgame content.
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>>384794560
Is there any bigger red flag in an mmo than a mentor tag?
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>tfw CONSISTENTLY do 1.7k in nignogg normal as BLM although I've been doing fine in SB
i don't know anymore man
looking at the graphs against a 1.9k it seems I shouldn't have avoided B4 but according to people who apparently tested it it's a dps loss. or does this only apply to lv70?
also having fuck all for thundercloud procs really puts a dent on your damage
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>>384794379
I personally wish it was the max.

Expert Roulette should have every dungeon available, just with mobs buffed to deal with whatever the current ilvl is. Throw some music into the 2.0 dungeons and we're golden.

4.1 isn't going to be for another 3 months or so, and that's only adding 1 new dungeon. So realistically, we're going to be going through Kugane Castle, Temple of the Fist and Ala Mhigo for the next 7 months or so. I would kill to have every dungeon available as a level 70 variation with all your current skills and ilvl.
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I have a lvl 70 AST, should i level WHM or SCH next? What is more fun?
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>>384794738
30 uncapped and 10 capped tomes. not even worth it.
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>>384794706
what's the fun of progressing through new content if you're fucking clueless as to what's happening in the new content because you skipped the 100s of hours of old content that was 100% relevant 3 months ago
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>>384794781
And I made roughly the same with MIN/BOT. FSH sucks. Spearfishing is shit. Mooching is shit. It's shit. IT's fucking shit.

Fuck FSH.
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>>384763743
>I don't care much for raiding or pvp, how is the story/questing?

I would recommend a single player game my dude
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>>384794540
Do this and add in both tribes as options. Its practically setup for this game.
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>>384794868
SCH. Yoshi P will always make sure they are the best.
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>>384794621
>the worst part of the game
It was great at launch ;_;
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>>384794923
>BoT gathering
>HURRR FSH SUCKS
I wonder whyyyy?
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>>384794704
You complete idiot I'm going to spell it out for you
The majority of your DPS hinges on fucking bahamut, a summon that takes 3 minutes to build up
If you die at 2 minutes, you have to start all over again. If the boss goes invincible just as you pop bahamut its wasted. That is on top of all the smaller CDs you constantly have to plan a minute ahead because your epic 2 dots deal literally no damage
Meanwhile RDM just mashes buttons the entire time because the worst that can happen to them is that they cant complete their melee combo which wastes only a single bar of mana that you build in 30 seconds anyway
You have literally never achieved any meaningful DPS in an endgame fight if you can't see something so obvious
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>>384794969
it's still good now, but WoWfags have this mentality that you must skip old content and play what's in the NOW.
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>>384794989
What are you talking about?
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>>384794923
I thought Patience and the Precision/Powerful hookset made the job not be completely boring and tedious. A shame that they both come 60 levels too late.
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>>384795080
Nigger you should have said BTN.
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DRK is alright, but I heard level 68/70 improves it a lot?
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>>384795034
you literally never played summoner at endgame, you're just talking shit you heard from other idiots. kill yourself you fuckboy.
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>>384794873
It's fucking obvious what's happening in the new content.

>there is this new boss with these mechanics that drops this loot and we're all encountering it together

That's literally all it takes to be fun.
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>>384794949
Yeah I really wish they will, but from their track record they'll just do minor differences. Shame they didn't put effort in the other tribe differences like they did with Highlander
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>>384795109
That doesn't stop you from consistently not getting what you're aiming for.

>>384795149
Whatever the fuck. You know what I meant.
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Yugiri's sneak attack on Zenos was the dumbest thing in the entire game so far.

I couldn't believe my character actually agreed to help her out with it.
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>>384795238
I'd rather sneak attack Yugiri
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>press ley lines
>the buttslap sound plays briefly but nothing comes out and the skill isn't on cd
>have to do it again
Did this shit happen to anyone else after SB?
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>>384795212
if all you care about is loot and playing simon says, there's plenty of smartphone games available for you.
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>>384795192
If you think competent summoners at endgame just watch their dots and let their pet autopilot you're the moron
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>>384795157
>That sound whenever you hit the Dark Arts button
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>>384793920
GAIUS
A
I
U
S
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>>384795238
She figured that the 5 levels or so that you've gained since the last time Zenos whooped your ass would make a difference.
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>>384794923
get gud
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>>384795316
I have to hit Sprint a few times to get it to work. It's like it's suddenly on that same bullshit animation lock that Potions are on.
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>>384793920
Y'shtola deserves our praise!
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>>384794958

Still reeling from the initial Stormblood nerfs.

Recent patch helps a lot but I wish Adlo was more cost efficient. I feel like AST has the better shield spell, Aldo is only especially good if you crit and that is not reliable.
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>>384795423
that's 80% of SMN gameplay at level 70 right there. you don't even have to control bahamut, he does skills himself when you do your skills.
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>>384795157
68/70 just gives you a move to use sometimes
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>>384795325
You are literally retarded.
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>>384795486
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>>384795212
but you would be oblivious to the story that lead to the boss. shinryu wouldn't be the same if you skipped all of Heavensward.
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>>384795238
WoL agrees with anything that involves murder, especially if the plan is ridiculous and probably will get you and everyone else involved killed.
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>>384795467
>Bloodspiller sound
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>>384795653
not as retarded as the person like you that pays money to skip 90% of the content.
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>>384795561
>Recent patch helps a lot but I wish Adlo was more cost efficient. I feel like AST has the better shield spell
That's because that's exactly the case. Noct Aspected Benefic/Helios are completely 100% better than Adlo/Succor in every single way. Really wish they'd do something about it, Adlo's barely worth the hotbar space anymore, fucking Physick is almost a better use of your time and MP.
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>>384795504
I wasted like ten minutes not dying to Zenos the first time you fight him before realising I was supposed to just eat shit. They should have just made him auto attack you for 30% instead of lots of easily avoidable aoes.
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>>384795034
>If the boss goes invincible just as you pop bahamut its wasted

That's your fault. Dreadwyrm Aether and Aeherflow are no longer on a timer. You CHOOSE when to enter DWT and you choose when to Summon Bahamut. As of Tuesday, you're not even punished for whiffing a bane or fester.

The only thing that sucks about SMN nowadays is that dying takes away all your attunement, your Aetherflow and your Dreadwyrm stacks. You lose everything upon death. Though it also sucks for a RDM who popped manafication/embolden and had 81/80 on his mana gauge. Oh and Devotion is still shit.
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>>384795238
That's the thing, she did it because she was willing to risk her own life. She didn't want to force the people of Namai to fight back, she didn't fully understand her value to the resistance/Hien/everyone else.

She found a cause and thought that laying down her life was the right path. Afterwards she knows she was wrong, especially when Gosetsu tells her that Hien meant that her life was just as valuable to the rebellion as his was.
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>>384794354
>lvl 40
>not good enough for a lvl 20 dungeon.
Yeah makes a lot of sense faggot.
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>>384795897
He eventually just OHKOs you if you survive for too long in either fight. The duty never lasts more than a few minutes at most.

Honestly as a PLD I had fun trying to see how long I could survive.
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>>384795561
They really just need to turn dissipation into a guaranteed crit cooldown so scholar can have a crit adlo spread when they need it.
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>>384795941
you could be level 40 in vanilla WoW and still get rejected from level 20 dungeon groups because you refused to do quests for gear and all you did was grind boars for hours.
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>>384795771
Nowhere near as retarded as the person who pays monthly for a shit story when he can just go the library for fucking free.
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>>384795897
I see it as a challenge, see how long you can last against him.
I kind of wish we had gotten another solo duty fight against him after Shinryu. Like a final duel between the two of you, no allies, no giant dragon, no hack Echo powers, just two fighters duking it out.
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>>384794540
Man, this is like that fan-made fey corgi race. Ugh
>>
>>384796078
still not retarded as paying money to have the content spoiled for you
>>
Wanna know some fucked up shit? I bought stormblood last night, then went to go resub, but SE decided to give me error 601, so I read up and decided to pay with that retarded Crysta, got some Crysta and then get error i2501 or something. Can't get customer assistance on the weekends. Now I had to refund stormblood, wait for my money to come back, and I'm out 15 bucks because of Crysta. Take my fucking money square, and fix your payment issues.
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>>384794868
WHM is more fun, to be honest. Straightforward, non-clunky, powerful heals and now hilariously strong DPS.

Stone IV effect, animation and sound are superb.
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>>384763743
once again another FFXIV MMORPG thread has reached the bump limit while other MMO threads on /v/ die out before that point
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>>384796274
Why does every cat have 100% in the breast slider? It's boring and stupid.
>>
>>384795504
To be fair, we almost "beat" him in the second try ("I'm bored so I will leave now" kind, like the third fight), but his new sword fucked us up.
Shinryu EX with that katana as a drop when

>>384795897
I actually enjoyed the two fights, they are pretty fun.
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>>384795772

IIRC, Noctural aspected benefic cures for slightly less but shields more on a normal hit, costs less MP, and is instant cast. Both get additional shielding on a crit, and I think Adlo crits are still the biggest shields, but you can't depend on crits so the extra MP cost is kinda wrong. Benefic needs to be toned down since it's cheaper and instant cast.

I was really glad to hear that AST balance draw got nerfed recently because I hate AST being the jack of all trades and master of all.

But I'll still play SCH because I love the lore, look, and play style.

Nymian Marine pride worldwide.
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>>384796458
Lizard girls with 0% breast slider is much better
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>>384796274
>commissoned for Justin
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>>384796458
Sexually frustrated weebs put their libido before good taste.
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>>384796458
And I coulndt even remember to add my picture. SIgh
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>>384795561
AST does have the better shield heal but shielding isn't and has never been the reason SCH is/was godmode. They were strong in 2.0-3.x because fairy let them stay in cleric stance thewhole fight and Deployment let you cheese things. In 4.05 deployment still let's you cheese shit, even moreso if it's a crit and their ogcd healing is the best between the fairy and more with AF stacks than you know what to do with and chain stratagem. AST has better potencies because their healing isn't split with the fairy and for the most part they're all on the gcd. It's not like a scholar would ever compete with a nocturnal astro anyway because Diurnal is the better sect. The only thing they need work on is Selene and disspation imo, they're still very strong.
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>>384796053

I was gonna say this. If crits are the main selling point of Adlo, we need more control over them.
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>>384763743

From what I've read, the story is just watching a cut scene and then fetching an item or going to the purple area and killing everything in it.

I don't touch these sort of games, but I tried giving XIV a shot. I'm firmly of the opinion that you need to love MMO's to tolerate XIV.

I think the entire genre is a load of shite to be honest. The only way I can see it being enjoyable is some sort of community aspect, but other games do the whole forcing-strangers-to-interact-for-a-good-time a lot better. Even Garrys Mod is a lot more fun because the fun modes are literally just fucking around for 10 minutes a round.

XIV doesn't really have much of any community that is easily accessible from what I've seen. You need to grind for weeks and keep joining guilds in the hope of finding decent players. From just playing, you would swear every other player is just an NPC. They run around and ignore you while doing their fetch quests.
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>>384796274
>they design WHM to match a pure healer fantasy
>now has super strong dps thanks to damage scaling off mind at all times
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