>mankind is on the brink of extinction >game forces you

>implying you should give a shit about people trying to unironically kill you

>mankind is on the brink of extinction
>game forces you to save ellie to progress in several situations
>it simply won't let you kill her and use her brain to make a cure

this is so damn stupid, thanks Naughty Dog

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>game opens
>Gives you the option to either kill a guy or save bullets and let him die on his own
>Creates an expectation of player choice.

>Fast forward to nigger
>Nigger leaves you for dead.
>No option to put a bullet in his head.

>>384746140
>>384746452
>>384746596
This isn't a story about YOU, anons. This is a story about Joel.

>>384746441
having the choice would still be nice, I love when games either let me be a white knight or a complete asshole, it adds a little to the replay value

>>384746596
He puts a bullet in his own head though

>>384746701
Go play skyrim, then

>>384746701
But Joel IS an asshole, did you not catch that in the end?

>>384746140
For most of the encounters it definetly allows non-lethal.
What are you on about?
I can only think of one instance where you definetly cannot do non-lethal.

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>main character murders hundreds of people while the game tries to sell you on his moral fortitude

>>384746864
You mean him doing literally nothing wrong?

>>384746140
Not brink of extinction. More like 50% of original population.

>>384746701
You can sneak past a lot of combat
And they attack you it's self defence
And the point of the game that Joel is a huge piece of shit, if you didn't notice
Great story and gameplay
>>384746898
This

>>384746685
Agreed it took a lot of queues from JRPGs

>>384746140
In spite of how bad shit looks during the game for mankind, we as a species have gone through a lot worse in regards to how close we came to total extinction.

>>384746962
He used to be like the guys that attack you, he'd kill innocent people he says so himself and his brother hates him for it
It is nice that he saves Ellies life but the point is that he is a very selfish man
Great character for sure, not the typical asshole or good guy character

>>384746140
>dude, I definitely want to leave these murderous citizens of earth alive, they totally wont ever try to kill me again in the future

You'd never survive the apocalypse homo

>>384746701
>replaying games

>>384746949
Not moral fortitude, pure blind unapologetic selfishness for someone you love. Fuck the world. She's my babygirl.

>>384746864
>having a second or third ending where you choices actually matter
just imagine how much it would encourage everyone to invest another 15 hours in that crap to see different endings

>>384747109
>having the choice to go full retard if you want to
why fucking not?

>>384747103
You have to be selfish to survive in a world like that

>>384747139
>he didn't replay MGS games for full stealth/bloodbath runs

>>384747421
Well Joel wasn't just selfish, he obviously went out of his way to be a huge asshole
Picked the wrong word there I guess

>>384747182
None of them would carry the same impact if that were the case. Quit being such a commie everyone isn't equal

>>384747521
I can't think of survival games without the ability to make choices, even fucking different routes/paths would improve that game

It's a completely linear game with barely any interactivity, no bosses, no gameplay variety after 6-7h (halfway)

It's okay to like it and call a 10/10 masterpiece though

>>384746949
Are you describing TLoU or Uncharted?

>>384747005
I haven't played any JRPGs, but I did like Monster Girl Quest

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>>384747175
This

>dude it's not a real stealth game unless I can knock people out lmao

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>>384746140
was I the only one that thought they were actually going to give you a choice with ellie at the end?

>>384746701
I thought the lack of choices and just having a strong narrative and characters was really refreshing.

>>384747995
You can though

Say what you want, but this game was one of the top 5 of the previous gen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97u-U0nvJM

>>384748180
So glad he's coming back for part 2

>>384748158
What? No you can't, not as a conscious choice at least.

>>384748339
Do you think you kill those people when you choke them?

>>384748548
Yes. You choke them out until they don't get back up. It's the same animation Joel uses against the zombies too, he isn't leaving them alive.

>game had me choking shit out 5 ft away from other niggas
>game has simple ass ladder and plank puzzles
>cliche ridden unoriginal story
>good graphics and voice acting
>10/10 great experience of my life

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>>384746140
>>384746701
Go play I Survived then OP, its exactly that even if it is simplified. I enjoyed it.

>love uncharted
>play tlou
>its exactly like uncharted except zombies and a sad story
>turn it off after 2 hours

shit is mad gay

>>384748770

I agree. It's short and flawed buy I played through it three times. Enjoyed it more than tlou even though it's a like 1/8 of a game.

>>384748686
>cliche ridden unoriginal story

Complete and utter shite. Also I love how /v/ always ignores half of what goes into a game and only talks about rudimentary gameplay elements (while underestimating the depth of it) or the basic plot to plot without considering everything else like the world building, the level design and the music.

>>384747769
It's not a fucking survival game you dipshit.
It's just a third person corridor shooter. Not everything has to be packed with shitty early access memes like "open world" and "your choices really (don't) matter!"
Christ fucking off yourself.

>>384746140
You're roleplaying as Joel. He's jaded and doesn't give a fuck about anyone but Ellie.

This is the same guy who literally doomed humanity just to protect his baby girl.

>>384748964
The plot isn't the great part, it's the character writing. The game really draws you in with its small stories from moment to moment.

>>384748772
>its exactly like uncharted

>>384747838
The guys in Uncharted were paramilitary and signed up for that shit. So they were kind of the baddies

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>>384748770
>only have one bullet
>hold 3 guys at gunpoint
>yfw

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>tfw finally bought it after getting a PS4 so I could see if /v/ was just memeing about this game too
>they were mostly right
The game definitely has above average presentation, sound design, and actual voice acting unlike 80-90% of games on the market, but fuck if that gameplay wasn't the same shit I've played with Tomb Raider and Gears of War and every other cinematic TPS on the market. On the easier difficulties it's basically a shitty RE4 and on the higher ones it's an okay Metal Gear.

>>384749084
name 1 (one) difference

>>384749129
Its a stressful mechanic that I wish more games incorporated, nobody looks at a guy holding a gun and rushes his ass from twenty feet away. It actually provided a puzzle of sorts when it came to dealing with enemies.

>muh choice

What is the source of this strange mentality that runs through /v/?

>>384749082
This. It's kind of like how /v/ jerks off TWD constantly - the story isn't amazing or anything, but it does a very good job of developing the main characters and making you care for them.

>tfw I thought Joel died I had flashbacks to Lee

>>384746949
But they never try to sell you on his morality?
When do they imply Joel is righteous in any way?

>>384749174
The gameplay is much, much better on the highest difficulties. It's far too easy to play it like a generic TPS on the lower difficulties even if the game tries to discourage it.

>>384746441
How do you ironically kill someone?

>>384749129
My only complaint is that if you spare them or hold them at gunpoint too long they attack anyways. Hopefully TLoU2 has more AI variety so some of they actually run away for good if you scare them enough.

>>384749194
Crafting

>>384749194
One hit kill enemies and crafting.

>>384749174
The gameplay is generic but incredibly satisfying when compared to other games with similar combat.

>>384749296
I agree. The first time I played through was on grounded, and then I played a bit of it in normal and just stopped after the first few chapters. The story was engaging for the most part and the characters were written well, I just don't think it deserves nearly as many accolades as it got. It's really not that groundbreaking at all, although I gotta hand it to Naughty Dog for getting those kinds of visuals on a PS3.

>>384749232
The only other game I've seen such a mechanic implemented was Dying Light, and I didn't even know about it until someone posted a webm involving just that.

>>384749546
Stop being so autistic, it doesn't matter if normies and publications call it 10/10 best game ever made, it's a good game and that's all that matters.

>>384749249
Only the first season. Maybe the second season due to Kenny.

>>384746140
you actually want to stealth in that game?

Everything felt so mechanically wonky gameplay felt awful literally the only reason to play is the story which isn't good enough to carry it's awful gameplay

Sure. Because in Fallout, you can just not kill anyone. It's that easy.

>>384749546
I think it is pretty groundbreaking honestly. I can't remember the last time a game merged story telling and gameplay that well together. Maybe it's not 10/10 material, but I'd definitely give it an easy 9/10.

It's basically TWD, just with actual non-shit gameplay.

>>384749546
Autism
It would be a good game if it got 10/10 or 1/10 from reviewers
This is how /v/ is, they would literally hate a good game if "normies" called it good

>>384749029
>"it's not a survival game"
>but you can craft medicine, weapons, explosives and other shit using spoils you find when scavenging buildings
>limited as fuck ammo
>you have to use bricks, pipes, bottles and everything you find as weapons so you can cross corridors full of enemies or distract them to save resources
>"b-but it's not a survival game"
are you retarded or something?

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>“You can kill me Joel, but the fireflies will be back to find you. You haven't seen The Last of Us.”

Over 200 Game of the year awards ladies and gentlemen

>>384746140
You sound like Faggot holy shit

>>384749730
/v/ thinking TLOU is a bad game is the biggest proof this place is nothing but a shithole
It never feels like gameplay is sacrificed for story or vice versa
It somehow merges both
It's also a triple A game with no regen HP and a survival game at that

>>384749846
Holy fuck I cannot believe they killed off Alyx Vance

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>>384746140
>wanting murderers and rapists to be what is left of mankind

>>384749761
Where in that post did I say it was a bad game, you retarded nigger? I found it to be decent on grounded.

>>384749846
That wasn't the through

>>384748772
>>384749084
but it is

>bullet sponge enemies
>braindead puzzles
>repetitive combat
>"jump on that ledge"
>"help your partner to cross the corridor"
>no bosses
>muh cinematic experience

they just changed the characters, ost and story, but it is literally the same fucking game -
reskinned

>>384749904
You could say that they truly were The Last of Us Remastered for PS4.

>>384749846
Am I retarded for liking how this line sounds like on paper?
>>384749921
Carrying about what fucking metacritic thinks is autism, nothing more

>>384749963
TLOU has no puzzles ladders are just hidden loading screens
>muh cinematic experience
This doesn't mean anything
Dead rising 2 is also a cinematic experience
It has a story and cutscenes
There
Cinematic
Kill yourself

>>384749846
>mfw Zelda BOTW wins GOTY 2017

then you start to wonder what's wrong with the industry

>>384749878
>It never feels like gameplay is sacrificed for story or vice versa
Yeah this is it. /v/ likes to complain about all the walking sections, but aside from one or two (the tutorial in boston for example) it felt very well paced. I never felt like it had too much pointless cutscenes or too much gameplay.

>>384749781
Alright friend play that shit on normal and then come back to me like any of the shit you said matters.
You pick ammo up off bodies you kill, you shoot other bad guys. There's small stealth sections and thats it.

>>384749878
>gameplay
>long ass boring sessions of the same bullet sponge enemies and shitty puzzles for 15 hours
>"it somehow merges both"
sure bro, sure

>>384749964

haha such an original joek

>>384749963
>>bullet sponge enemies
Are you sure? Anything handgun above the default pistol kills reliably with two-three shots to the chest. Rifles all kill with one shot to the chest area.

>>384750135
The game being awfully balanced in level design and enemy/resources placement while on normal difficulty doesn't mean it isn't a survival game

it's just a shitty survival game, like Resident Evil with infinite health or something

>>384750114
Yea the intro is too slow but that's it
Uncharted 4 really goes over the edge tho
I'm very worried TLOU 2 might go that path

But uncharted 4 is the best TPS pretty much ever
Fluid, great level design, good story
But the pacing is fucking terrible
We'll have to see

>>384750206
xD

>>384750206
If you didn't figure it out the game doesn't want you to shoot your way out of situations, this is why enemies literally never miss if you're moving towards them and taking a bullet puts in you a two second long stun animation. Also every arena is designed so enemies can flank you if you stay in one spot.

>>384748686
>>cliche ridden unoriginal story
Nigger, even a contrarian "everything is bad" shithole like /v/ still has near daily threads talking about the ending of this game four years after release. What other games from 2013 still get talked about? And before you say GTA V, that game is online-focused and had new content added as recently as last month. The Last of Us is a 12 hour single-player game.

>>384746140
>This is not us!
Bravo fag, you're so dumb the point flew over your head despite how shallow this game is.

>>384750307
go play it and come back, it takes about 6-7 shots on each human to put them down, even headshots sometimes won't be 1hko, which is ridiculous

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>>384746140
>set off a trap
>you are now hanging on the rope from the ceiling
>instead of shooting the damn rope or w/e is holding it, a shooting gallery section with infinite ammo begins

>>384750448
talk about artifical difficulty to keep you on track for "don't use guns"

did you read what you just posted?

>>384750624
I've played it like four times, it's 4 shots with the 9mm, 3 with the revolver and 2 with the hunting rifle.
There's armored enemies too, you can tell them because they look differently and you get a thing around your crosshair when you shoot the armored parts.

>mankind is on the brink of extinction
>game won't let you breed your pocket loli to repopulate the world with virtue immune children

>>384749878
>>384749878

It's not a bad game but the actual gameplay is run of the mill generic shit. Get fucked if this game has special meaning to you.

>>384750731
I just wanted to make a point about the obvious design philosophy to discourage the player from thinking it's the average third person shooter really.
I am way beyond arguing whether it's a good game or not, people have made up their minds.

>>384750586
Joel is such a great character
The biggest shock is that he was written by an outspoken SJW but written so well
I can't believe he wrote him so well and human
He did say he wrote TLOU because he got a baby and realized what he would do to keep her safe

>>384750746
Not if you aim and headshot tho

>>384750624
>go play it and come back,
I literally just finished it last month.

>it takes about 6-7 shots on each human to put them down,
Blatantly false. Three revolver shots will put down any unarmored humanoid and the rifle kills in 1-2 shots depending on upgrade level.

>>384750810
average 7/10 piece of entertainment

it's not bad as some interactive movie to finish in a couple sessions, but once you're done, you feel like never coming back

unless you enjoy replaying average, tiresome games though, which is fine

>>384750797
You would become infected if you fuck her

>>384750871
Well there's the annoying crosshair sway. I always rush to upgrade that first, it's one of the few problems I really have with the game.

>>384750987
>you feel like never coming back
I replay the game often
There's just nothing like it out there

>>384750997
Yea me too
Hopefully that won't be in TLOU 2, it wasn't in uncharted 4

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>>384746441
>implying Joel gave a shit about humanity and didn't just want Ellie's loli puss

>>384750847
it's not bad, it just has some bad design decisions and lazy level design/enemy placement

it's okay to like average games anon, you're free to play stuff below 10/10 score sometimes

>>384751117
>there's just nothing like it out there
I can name at least 10 games like it or better than it, but I'll let you find out by yourself

protip: don't always pick stuff based on how good they look or how popular they are

Why do so few people mention how good the writing is at the very end of the game when Joel lies to Ellie.That was probably the most real thing i've seen in a game.

>>384750871
TLoU did it's SJW elements right, they're basically not noticeable unless you go looking for them. Prey 2017 did the same thing.
There's no issue if it's just women and blacks being present, to me at least.

>>384751297
writing is pretty good in this game, I wish it was a movie instead a 15 hour long movie about corridors

The reason why /v/ thinks the game doesn't have stealth is because unlike other games where the enemies have a set path, as the game goes on, enemies start to be more dynamic, so if you restart a section and try sneaking the same path you did before, you'll find that the enemies aren't there and are using a new path instead. This makes it seem like there's no choice but to kill everyone, but rather it just makes it so you can't memorize the enemies pathway to sneak past them and must do so by reacting to what's going on around you. This is also the only game I can remember where characters actually react and respond to collectibles.

>Naughty Dog

this is so damn stupid, thanks Naughty Dog

>>384751283
>>384750987
Douchebag

>>384746140
Not video games, fuck off

>>384751283
>I can name 10 things like it, trust me.
>But I won't

lol

>>384751461
It's not worth arguing with these people.

>>384751283
You can't name 5 games like TLOU yet alone 10

>>384751346
I can't agree more
I hate SJW shit but Bill for example, sure he's a fag but he's a great character
The guy who wrote TLOU is a liberal but he's also a good writer
His games don't feel that political unless being gay is political
I don't remember politics being outright mentioned in Uncharted 4 or TLOU

>>384751346
That's the biggest joke. People like to say the game is sjw pandering, but is it really? The gay guy turns out to be a pathetic asshole, the black guys are backstabbing incompetent fucks who dies, and all the women has to be saved by the big strong white male. The only person with a happy ending is the other straight white male who chooses to start a family. Even the matriarchal role is mostly unrepresented as Joel is a single father.

>>384751525
Because you have no real argument.

>>384751283
Yeah, and I can run 100 meters in 7 seconds, but I'm not going to do it :^)

Recently played tlou remastered followed by the evil within and actually enjoyed my play of tew much more.

>>384751346
TLoU was incredibly subtle despite being written by an SJW.

>Lots of hints that the fat man is gay, but never explicitly brought up and most players actually missed it
>Black dude and his kid brother are completely normal people without forced stereotypes
>Ellie's references to her lesbian friend could be interpreted as platonic friendship until the DLC

I just hope the sequel keeps this subtlety, but after seeing U4 I can't say I have faith.

>>384751619
Yes, you've won.

>>384751665
>it's okay because it's japanese

>>384751525
you mad bro?

>>384751692
>come into thread to start shit
>gets shit on
Yes, he really did win. Goddamn, I would've tied up a noose if I were you at this point.

>>384751608

I didn't notice or care about sjw but the dlc add on where she goes lesbo almost ruined her character for me. Nothing to do with the kiss scene. She was just hello annoying.

>>384751525
T R I G G E R E D

>>384751608
Yea pretty crazy how a SJW wrote Joel, a white Texan guy who sacrifices the greater good to save someone he loves
That's not something SJW on paper
Also all the strong women besides Ellie either die or Joel kills them
They're also terrible leaders

>>384751410
>This is also the only game I can remember where characters actually react and respond to collectibles.
My favorite part of the game is when I picked up a recording that confirms killing Ellie will save humanity
I was waiting for Joel to comment but he said nothing
It was so perfect

>>384751694

But im.not even close to a weeb and don't play many Japanese games. It's just a better "game" to me

>>384751525
mission accomplished

>>384751938
I really liked Tess.

>>384751525
>he doesn't like my game so I'm mad
are you enjoying /v/ scrub?

>>384751675
You mean Nadine?
Besides her, nothing is even close to SJW in that entire game
I guess I can forgive her, it is a pretty over the top series, and she's supposed to be an intimidating villain
But the fights with her were still dumb, just to be clear
I do find it funny how Nathan acts around her tho and how he doesn't want to hit her cuz she's a woman

>>384751971
Nah, total weeb

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>>384752091
>u mad
>samefags five (5) times

>>384746140
>mankind on the brink of extinction
>can't fuck Ellie with the purpose of impregnating her
this is so damn stupid, thanks Naughty Dog

>>384751525
I'd call mommy if I were you

>>384752014
She was alright, at the start when she kills 2 guys I thought I would hate her, but nah
She does get hurt, and she needs Joel around because he's stronger and muscle

>>384751525
>it's not worth arguing
>but I'll post a reply anyway

>>384752146
you should edit your post, it's out of date.

You now realize Ellie literally cannot have sex without infecting her partner. Poor girl, no wonder she's so angry in part 2

>>384746140
How come Naughty Dog never releases their games on PC? I suppose there's that streaming service, but still. I doubt it's a hardware issue.

>>384752603
kek

I don't even like naughty dog games but when did it become mandatory to force choice into everything. It's much harder to tell a good story or have a defined character if it depends on player choice. Having joel do joel is 100x better than some trash like a bethesda game where you character has no identity.

>>384752670
sony money.

>>384752670
>Naughty Dog, LLC (formerly known as JAM Software, Inc. before renaming in 1989[1][2][3]) is an American first-party video game developer based in Santa Monica, California.[4] Founded by Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin in 1984 as an independent developer,[2] the studio was acquired by Sony Computer Entertainment in 2001.

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>>384746949
>Killing people is wrong

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>>384752717
>the legions of faggots literally assmad that you can't choose the cold logical choice of sacrificing Ellie when the entire game hammers SURROGATE DAUGHTER into your skull the entire time

>>384753005
>cover shows Joel and Ellie
>Joel's daughter dies in the first 10 minutes
Gee I wonder.

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>This thread

>>384746685
This is what I came here to write. This shit post is retarded as fuck. Joel isn't your good guy high standing moral figure. He's a ruthless murder who finally found someone worth fighting for, and he will slaughter anyone who gets in his way

>>384752717
the can be a middle ground between no identity and having a choice or two that actually matters.

>>384753502
I'd generally rather just have a well told story. I think it's telling that most of the games remembered for their story had very little player input.

>>384747413
Because it's a fucking story it's about Joel not you.

>>384748772
I found the faggot that played it on easy. How fucking stupid can you be?

>>384753502
I thought narrative being completely linear was refreshing.

>>384753005
I can't remember it clearly, but didn't research notes at the end imply they use plenty of immune subjects before, but they couldn't extract a cure? Ellie would have died for nothing thanks to those fucks

>>384749029
"Shooter" found another fag that played on easy

>>384753870
>>384753574
the problem I had with no choice at the end was that story set it up as this huge dilemma, and the whole scene leading up to his rampage and onward had the wind taken out of it when I realized the choice was already made for me. especially if you try and don't kill the doctors, you can just stand in front of them an inch away like a jackass while he is threatening you.

>>384749174
Why would you play it on an easy difficulty??

>>384754169
>w-where are my moral choices
>this can't be happening
You were just in the wrong mindset.

>>384754169
It was a dilemma for joel not for the player. Do you get the difference?

>>384750135
Why in the fuck would you play it on normal? Are you fucking 7? Absolute a way different game at such a low difficulty

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I found the game to be alright first time around, but after beating it I feel its one of those games that you cant get yourself to replay on higher difficulties or see things you missed. Why did those guys ambush your shit when you first got to pittsburgh anyways? Havent played in awhile.

Ignored this POS until the first PSX open to the public. Decided to give it a shot because why not. Sit down game looked meh, I'd seen better textures in numerous games. Gameplay was abymally the same as Uncharted.

The funniest part was talking to some person who tried to wrap their head around that I didn't like it and it wasn't the best looking game out there.

>>384754510
Not that guy but I'd wager most people (even those in this thread) played it on Normal first and only figured out that the game is a million times better on the harder difficulties later.

>>384754392
>stutter posting
>>384754396
I get the difference, but like I said it killed the tension for me of the whole scene and the scene after. they could have also at least let you choose to lie to her about the fireflies or not.
I'm fine with a game being a rollercoaster, as long as they try to hide the railroading. it felt like they didn't try.

>>384754617
>n-no seriously where are muh moral choices this sucks... railroading!

>>384754617
Ignore the retard that can't argue in anything but meme form.

I guess I don't need it hidden from me. The entire game was the story of Joel. Joel loses his daughter joel becomes a shitty person, joel starts to open up again and when someone tries to take that from him joel doesn't let them.

At no point did the game pretend it was giving you control over the plot.

>>384754945
You're the retard, that faggot actually holds it against the game that he doesn't get to make an arbitrary choice at the end like it's an Ubishit game or something.

>>384751297
That was honestly the best moment of the entire game, and one of the most memorable moments in gaming this decade to me. The game as a whole isn't a 10/10 by any means but that ending legitimately was.

>>384755064
Man I agree with you but you spam memes so you're a retard end of story.

>>384754945
>At no point did the game pretend it was giving you control over the plot.
I know, I'm not too sure why I was so surprised by it, but I wish they changed the lead up to ellie being taken by the fireflies. also at least have the doctor slash at you with the scalpel when he's threatening you and you just stand in front of him.
>384755064
>arbitrary
look up words before using them. you made a better argument using nothing but memes