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I had the chance of playing one of those in an Arcade recently.

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I had the chance of playing one of those in an Arcade recently. I really enjoyed it and I'd like to play more.

How does one enter the world of Rhythm Games with fancy peripherals? I've only ever played controller-based games before.

Rhythm Games thread, I suppose.
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The age of rhythm games using peripherals is over unless you want to buy second hand or pay expensive prices for new ones.

You'll just have to play the regular way via controllers and stuff. DJMAX comes out soon, but Superbeat Xonic is great as well. I'm not a fan of the Vocaloid rhythm games. Too boring.
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>>384740829
Why is it over? It's not like those games were ever popular anyway, outside of the PS2 era when Guitar Hero was normiecore.

How expensive exactly are those peripherals anyway?
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>>384740502
Sadly your options are pretty limited in the West when it comes to peripheral rhythm games outside of DDR, Guitar/Dj Hero, Rock Band and gimmick games that use peripherals once like Samba de Amigo and DK Jungle Beat
Thankfully the next Taiko Drums game is getting an Asia release that will allow for English menus and have peripheral support, only problem is that you're looking at around $90 as the base price and adding import fees on top of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWi_jEv1sK4
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>>384740829

>Love DJ Hero
>never look for a replacement once it dies
>wanders in
>see DJMAX

YO DUDE WHAT THE FUCK I NEED THIS SHIT
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Forcing people to use expensive plastic fake instruments puts hard limits on a game's mechanics.
Plus, in the west, people are completely fucking SICK to their stomach of fake guitar games, you can blame activision for that.
They killed their golden goose by producing 6 SEPARATE guitar hero games in ONE YEAR.
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>>384741079
I dunno why they died out but they did. Also the west really isn't into rhythm games as much as the japanese or koreans. When I go to the arcades in Japan or Korea the #1 populated floor, aside from the gambling and fighting floors, is the rhythm one.

Usually a couple hundred depending what you want it for. I assume you'd want to use them on PC?
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>>384740502
>How does one enter the world of Rhythm Games with fancy peripherals?
Decide what you want to play and stay dedicated. When you're spending anywhere from $50 to $400 for a controller to play a single game, you better know you're going to enjoy it and make the most of it.
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>>384741402
Yes, on the PC. The most modern system I own besides a Laptop is a PSP.

>>384741686
I have no idea how to actually get into it, though. I looked at /vg/ and /jp/ hoping to see something like a Rhythm Games General or something, but couldn't find any.

>>384741158
Looking at videos it doesn't look particularly amazing.

>>384741179
Ultimately they also killed MadCatz, too.
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>>384741879
jp has a rhythms games general, but it's mostly for the super autistic games like iidx beatmania and pop'n.
I could never get into games like those, the notecharts hardly have anything to do with the song being played.
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Played a donkey Kong one like that in an arcade in austin texas last year. Been searching for an arcade with rhythm games in Chicago ever since.... Can't fuckinggggggg find one. There's a game bar near downtown that has guitar hero but fuck that I wanna smash some drums
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>>384742183
>Been searching for an arcade with rhythm games in Chicago ever since
There's a Round 1 in Bloomingdale.
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>>384741158
>someone else besides me played DJ Hero

Shut up, stop lying
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>>384742075
>I could never get into games like those, the notecharts hardly have anything to do with the song being played.
That's not true at all.
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>>384742854
no, they really don't
the button slamming sounds form percussion for the backing track, but none of them are actually tied to the notes being played in the song itself.
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>>384743076
It's cause they use multiple sounds and the voice at the same time, and you obviously couldn't tell unless you were fast enough to do it yourself. Back when I was playing Chunithm Air in Japan and a friend was watching me, she said something similar.
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>>384742642
>2 and a half hour bus ride

Its worth it, thanks mr anon I'll check that place out
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>tfw live minutes away from Round 1 and have access to loads of rhythm games including Taiko no Tatsujin, Project Diva and Theathrythm.

Feels good man, maybe I should check it out on my day off coming up.
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>>384744710
http://miku.sega.jp/arcade/tw/location/location_usa.html

>nearly all project diva machines are in CALIFORNIA
>they're all 20 minutes away from me
I know what I'm doing this weekend
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>>384743221
Shut the fuck up Onsokumaru
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>>384740502
There's a new Taiko no Tatsujin coming out for the PS4. It comes with a USB drum controller. If you want to get into something like this be ready to shell out some cash, it can be pretty expensive.

Other games include bemani (if you can get an invite on sows), osu, DDR and that korean DJ game that I never liked.
If you go down the bemani route you could build the controller by yourself. Taiko controllers are a bit more complicated so unless you're an engineering student or have some electronics training don't bother.
There's also that Donkey Kong drum game on the wii, if you can find the peripheral for it.
I recommend going down the Taiko route. It's objectively the only good rhythm game that ends up teaching you an actual skill if you end up getting really good at it.
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/26/taiko-no-tatsujins-new-ps4-teaser-trailer-shows-gameplay-sweet-controller-hori/
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>tfw New Zealand
Are there even any rhythm game machines here? Future Tone on ps4 can't satisfy me forever.
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>>384745162
Cant wait for the asia release, heard about a season pass which I honestly dont mind from all the rayark music packs to buy on mobile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpe-mM8UE5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr_GFdMsj4A
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>>384745413
I tend to buy*
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>>384745413
My friend already preordered the thing. I was thinking of doing the same but I realized I actually need a PS4 for it. Otherwise I'm gonna be stuck trying to find songs for either osu! or Taiko Jiro to play with the controller, all while looking at a game I can't play.
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>>384743076
In IIDX at least all of the notes directly correspond to each sound in a song, and you can hear it your timing is off or you miss a note.
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>>384741879
Since you also have a psp, you can get the DJMAX series already. Pretty sweet deal since peripheral ones on consoles/pc are pricey. On a laptop, you could go with the rythem based communities like stepmania/osu/guitar hero clones/etc. They have a lot of variety and even the arcade versions too.
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If you want to get into Taiko specifically, the minicons for the wii/wiiu is pretty cheap but it's not the best quality. You can modify the controllers a bit to improve but it's still not great. There's a really expensive hori controller that is actually good too but idk where you'd even find that since they don't make it anymore.

The wiiu and wii games are pretty easy to pirate if you have a wiiu or wii and you can actually use that controller. iOS game wasn't bad on their touch screen but getting it installed on your western phone would be a pain. DS/3DS/PSP/Vita games are all good but you'll be playing with just buttons on those.
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>>384745626
>My friend already preordered the thing
with subs? where? playasia doesn't have it up
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>>384744710
>>384744934
Lucky bastards. Chicago has everything except rhythm games. There is a real close by arcade that has literally hundreds of machines tho. Pay $20 and you can come and go all day, everything inside is free. Think I'll go get drunk and play fightan games and that multiplayer Mario kart machine they have.
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>>384745413
>tfw I'll never be this good
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>>384745853
I think he got it off amiami, he was real quick about it too, since preorders are already over.
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=GAME-0018616
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>>384746009
Chicago has two Round 1s, what are you talking about.
http://www.round1usa.com/location/
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>>384745803
That controller looks exactly what I'd want to have but I don't own a Wii/WiiU. I don't suppose those work on the PC?
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There's a console version of that game.
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>>384746359
Nope
There's controllers for the PS2 that might work with an adaptor, along with the new one for the PS4 that's native USB.
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what song did you guys fc in oni

I can do that one akb48 song with my eyes closed
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>>384745803
>>384746365
mon sells a little usb converter so you can use that controller on pc: https://mon.im/tatacon/
there aren't really good taiko sims. taikojiro is your best bet on pc.

for other games, I'd recommend looking into SDVX (keyshootmania is the simulator on pc) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptjmjEUESlw
it looks crazy at first but I think it's one of the best rhythm games for new players. it has a really gentle difficulty curve up until the really hard stuff starts.
mon is making a mini controller for that that's pretty awesome and he should be getting another batch of those made soon. there's also more expensive full size controllers that djdao makes.

iidx (lunatic rave 2) is popular but you're not going to find a good controller for cheap and the difficulty curve is steep. pop'n is a favorite of mine that you can also play via lunatic rave 2
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>>384746359
You can connect the wiimote to your PC via bluetooth. And I think that'll work with osu! since they have a setting in the menu for those.
Not sure about taiko jiro
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>>384746586
osu taiko is pretty bad imo. but finding charts for taikojiro is a pain. I recommend using that usb converter instead of bluetooth so you don't have to deal with a whole wiimote and bluetooth setup
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>>384746723
I used to be pretty good at osu taiko so I wouldn't exactly say it's bad, it's just not a good reproduction.
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>>384746585
That dongle with the Wii Nunchuk Drum seems to be exactly what I'd want. But are there actual Taiko games to play on the PC? Besides Osu taiko mode.

I wasn't expecting this series to be so PC-unfriendly.
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>>384747009
Taiko jiro is the only other alternative, but good luck modifying that since most of the resources are JP only.
That said, I can finally post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaB8xEik488
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>>384747136
>DoD3
Triggered, fuck you taro on that last notes
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>>384746893
I played a lot of the PSP and 3DS games before trying Osu so that's probably why I don't like it.

>>384747009
I can try to upload what I have of taikojiro, no guarantees it'll work well. the instructions that came with it were terrible

>>384746561
on arcade the hardest I've FCd is the butt biting bug song. but on handhelds I've done a few, 伝説の祭り is one of my favorite songs https://youtu.be/l7Fk-pEbnIA
on arcade I can play 6 and some 7 if I'm not too tired. on consoles I am playing 9
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>>384747136
Jesus Christ that looks fun.

>>384747375
What's so convoluted about taikojiro? Besides being mostly in nip?
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went to one in auckland that had some, vaguely remember some bemani(?) and taiko, though i heard the taiko machine was taken away>>384745259
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>>384747639
it's mostly just unfinished and abandoned.
here's a good article (on a good website) taikotime.blog{DELETEME}spot.ru/2013/05/feature-know-your-taiko-simulators.html
{fuck spam filter}
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have a map https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/arcades.php
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>>384747829
>taikotime
I see you're a man of taste.
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>>384746201
Those arent in chicago, far as fuck away when you don't have a car. I'm just bitching tho, im willing to take hour+ bus rides for this shit. Dave and busters in the surrounding area too I'm just lazy
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>>384740502
Play sound voltex you fucking fool
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Here's the taikojiro packs I have downloaded, I probably can't be much help figuring out how to get them working though.
https://mega.nz/#!W8sUXLSL!ODBNTr07dM3UcSpz1-bZIEfL2m3KzoYaQR_Y-47VVBM
https://mega.nz/#!fltFmJjL!SsrwVS1HC_TlhVWmJedHKAJflc-pF8wiyfqxewAVXvk

>>384748236
if you do go to R1, don't be afraid to ask people who are playing the games for help navigating the menus or understanding the basics of the games. I haven't been to that R1 but rhythm gamers are some of the nicest people in my experience and are always happy to help someone new get started.
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>>384748428
Thank you. I am getting those now.
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>>384741158
DJMAX doesn't resemble dj hero at all. You probably want IIDX
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>>384740502
There's a new taiko game coming out for the ps4. And since it's pretty easy making custom controllers for it it's only time before a nice taiko drum set comes out.
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>>384747672
Noice, can I get a name on the place?
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>>384749081
is hori still alive? http://www.youtube.com/embed/g1nZBzZCeGQ?rel=0
the switch game that is supposed to be coming out sometime before march 2018 is also apparently going to be released in english
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>>384749257
Seems like it. They already have a drum that will come out the same day the game releases on october.
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>>384749113
never mind it actually closed down a long time ago, from what I've heard.
What a shame, it had older arcade games, and even more of a shame that I only went to it once.
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>>384747672
>>384750201
looks like it's mostly just ddr/itg/piu in that area. I do see a place with jubeat though which might be worth checking out
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I have a serious question, when is this getting a sequel?
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>>384750602
jubeat? is it in that pic or somewhere else?
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i found a ps2 taiko drum at a goodwill recently, will i need certain drivers for it to work through a usb connection? also would custom drumsticks be okay to use on it or would it damage it instead of the original sticks?
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>>384751124
it's another less-common bemani. the arcade in the pic has it. you have a screen with a 4x4 grid of buttons on top that you tap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTxnUf3Oju8
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>>384751464
looks great, I'll get there and play it if I have time to spare, thanks anon
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>>384742183
Ever hear of Galloping Ghost arcade?
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>>384740829
>The age of rhythm games using peripherals is over

>SDVX Heavenly Haven
>ubeat
>Museca
>GitaDora
>DDR A
>IIDX Sinobuz
>Taiko no Tatsujin finally getting an Asian release
UNIRONICALLY SHUT UP ONSOKUMARU
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>>384740502
>How does one enter the world of Rhythm Games with fancy peripherals?

Rocksmith goes on sale every other day, theres a ton of DLC and CustomDLC, it supports guitar and bass. Bass is super fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUHarbdRj5Q
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>>384753436
You can't get fancier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7DRWhDwO2A
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>>384753746
>tfw can't get keyboardmania working with my keyboard
I wonder if it's worth searching for a PS2 controller for the game
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>>384741079
>>384741158
>>384753209
>>384741879

Stop enabling that fucking tripfaggot. Just fucking ignore him
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>>384753963
hownew.ru
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>>384741079
>How expensive exactly are those peripherals anyway?

very
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>>384753746
Imagine how far you could get if you'd learn a real instrument instead of playing your incredibly dense note charts that make you slam round dome buttons with the meat of your palm.
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>>384754103
I hope that guy who is making his own that strap on to the monitor ends up costing no more than that. who am I kidding, he's new to production and doing a small run of course it's going to be fuckking expensive
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>>384754153
why not both? nobody said you couldn't play any number of instruments and also enjoy rhythm games
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>>384754103
You can definitely make this out of wood and regular square buttons, but proabably won't feel as good. I don't even know if there is a jubeat cab hdd out in the open right now either
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>>384754229
That one needs a display too, a 27 incher.
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>>384754083
You're the newfaggot here if you think that tripfag should get any attention whatsoever. It's pointless attention whoring.
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>>384754354
you can play analyzer append. it's also not that hard to get into the private circles

>>384754381
right but it just sorta sits on top of the monitor. the monitor has its own stand underneath the buttons' stand
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbPj5vfprIQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_OlonzF8NQ
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>>384754615
Are you defending tripfaggotry then? Because it sounds like you are
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>>384753206
I'm actually going there on Monday for my gfs birthday. Probs from 3-10ish

We are gonna drink, go in and out for food and stuff. I dare you to be there! (Im going to wear a MAGMA shirt)
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>>384755028
I'm not defending tripfaggotry. I'm defending /v/ culture
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>>384754947
I wish I were good at pop'n. I got myself up to 31s once but after a few months of not playing I'm stuck on 26s now. Someone else at the arcade was playing 40s like it was nothing.
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>>384755243
You are defending cancer
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>>384743076

You legitimately sound mentally handicapped because those games are literally playing the stems and keysounds from the songs themselves.

Stop licking your elbow
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>someone makes a post
>you reply to a post

What's wrong about this? As long as you don't give him attention because he is a tripfag, what difference does it make? Ultimately it's just another post in the board.

Stop finding faults in everything.
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>>384755564
????
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>>384755347 That's offensive to cancer.
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>>384755061
I might be there, I'll be wearing an Ultraman shirt if I remember. I live close by so I go often.
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>>384740502
There's a new Taiko drumming game coming out for the ps4 some time this year. It even has custom drum controllers.
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>>384755580
If you don't understand why tripfags are so fucking cancerous, you might as well fuck off to reddit
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>>384755865
The point of anonymity is so that posts are judged by their content, and not by the user who has made them. You sabotage this by using a Tripcode on all your posts, but it's not like I know or care who the fuck that guy is. I replied to him as I would have an unsigned post.

You're the one who should go, and take your reddit boogeymanship with you.
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>>384755767
I'll keep my eye out for ya.
I need friends I have none
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>>384756168
That faggot posts here all the time and tripfagging outside of Q/A shit specific circumstances is nothing but blatant attention whoring and should not be respected. Trying to give yourself a name on 4chan goes against the whole purpose of the site.
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>>384756434
>Whole purpose of this site
We should honestly remove /v/ as well because none of us are talking about Japanese Culture and Chinese cartoons
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>>384740829
>The age of rhythm games using peripherals is over unless you want to buy second hand or pay expensive prices for new ones.
PS4 getting Taiko release with USB controllers soon, even English Asia version.
Stop being a faggot
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>>384740502
Lurk around /jp/'s rhythm game threads, you'll pick it up pretty quickly.
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>>384756434
Tripfags aren't going anywhere and ignoring them obviously doesn't work. Instead, reply to them as if it was a normal post. They'll go away eventually.

Only a fool repeats the same actions hoping for different results.
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>>384740829
>Superbeat Xonic is great
>FT is "too boring"
Are you retarde-
>Tripfag
As if I needed to ask.
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>>384740502
you should try drummania OP
Those shit are insanely fun
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>>384740829
You say this like OP is talking about guitar hero and shit.
Please educate yourself, the controllers for japanese arcade rhythm games are cheaper and more accessible than they've ever been.

>>384740502
Do you know what other games you're interested in trying? Unless you import an old PS2 controller, Taiko isn't exactly the easiest game to play at home. The new PS4 one is getting a NA release though, if you want to play Taiko you should just wait for that.
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>>384744710
Round 1 is great and there's one about an hour away from me but the traffic back is suffering so I don't go much. Feels bad that I can't really git gud going so infrequently.
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>>384757546
>Do you know what other games you're interested in trying?

I previously have only played simply games with regular controllers, so I don't know really. Everything else just seems way too complicated for a non-asian to event attempt playing.
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Airtone is a pretty good VR rhythm game.

It's not nearly as hardcore as the the rest of these but since you are using your whole arms its pretty unique.

It does get quite difficult on Hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvmTFTort0
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>>384750779
That was a really fun game but too easy. It felt more like for kids.
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>>384758056
>VR Rhythm Game
Now I've seen it all. How do you even play this?

Seems fun, though.
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>>384758056
VR paraparaparadise when
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move to Japan
most arcades have a large section of just rhythm games involving peripherals. Like, 50% of the arcade is other games, and then the other 50% of it is rhythm games
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>>384757998
Sound Voltex tends to be the most accessible one that I see people get into. IIDX is punishing, but I personally think it's the best one and it's definitely the one with the most depth. You'll also find a lot more songs for its sim than SDVX's sim.

Gamo2 is the main maker for controllers, although I hear lots of people say they prefer the Virgoo ones for SDVX.

Do you have a Round 1 nearby? They have all these games so you can try them before you dive into a controller purchase.
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>>384757998
it's not that hard
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>>384758330
I played one of these VR rhythm games, you end up moving as little as possible and doing sweeping movements in order to hit all the markers and it's probably not as exciting to watch from the outside.
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Taiko Switch when?
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>>384741158
>buy dj hero
>not too bad at it, medium at bedtime
>go camping for a weekend
>come back suddenly nailing hard

not sure how it happened but fuck I miss dj hero.
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>>384758556
>I hear lots of people say they prefer the Virgoo ones for SDVX
I have a virgoo and while the fancy knob led strip is cool, I'm not sure it's worth the extra hassle to get one. the knobs feel a lot better than arcade does oddly enough.

>>384758769
sometime before march 2018
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>>384754501
My fucking sides, that's brilliant
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>>384758813
medium at best*

sorry phoneposter
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>>384758813
Thats how it goes when learning an instrument like guitar or piano, you feel like you can't do shit and like a retard. Next day you're doing the same thing just fine. Muscle memory takes time to sink in I guess.
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>>384758330
>>384758642

You basically stand and have a circular area around you where the notes fly towards you.

The yellow ones you "hit" by swatting or slapping, the green ones you need to squeeze the trigger, and the pink ones you squeeze and hold while following the trail with your hand(s).

It definitely is more fun to play than watch, and the art style is pretty good compared to most VR games.

If you ever wanted to fly through abstract environments with your anime waifu and do wavy-arm dances, this game is for you.

https://youtu.be/qssKpo8cHYw

tfw game is so obscure no you can't find any lewds of the MC
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>>384758897
SDVX is accurate but I've never heard of anyone rapidly improving after the 10s wall
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taiko? pfft.
superior drum game coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=041C_1QVdLw
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