Why do PCfags tell people that PC gaming is cheaper than console

Unless you want to fucking mine bitcoins or some shit there's no reason to buy a high end PC.

>>384696181
This. My friend goes on about how he's able to pirate shit for free, but he's constantly buying these new PC parts and shit for the computer. It only seems like more of a hassle to me.

>>384696181
How much do you think 10000 free AAA games cost?

no online fees
cheaper games
not rebuying the same games every gen because they dotn work on your old console

that alone saves you about $1000

>>384696362
That's what is so funny about PC master race fags

>yeah dude PC gaming is cheap just pirate your games
>wtf why are so many PC ports poorly made/non-existent!!

>>384696541
/thread

>>384696181
PC gaming is more expensive upfront, but over time is less expensive.

>Don't have to get a completely new one when the new model arrives
>Keys are cheaper to acquire on the PC market, typically you'll find games 20% cheaper for preorder and 50-75% if you're patient after release
>Don't have to pay twice for the internet you use
>Full backwards compatibility

>>384696541
>rebuying the same games every gen because they dotn work on your old console
Wut?

>>384696362
well some people like building pc's and stuff. just another hobby. it gets pricey if you want to be high-end all the time. i personally don't care about fps or having the bestest graphics. around 7 years old build. still does what i need it for. should update soon but like said it's old build so would have to replace most of the shit. probably near $1000 for middle end pc that i wouldn't have to mess around with in years. and on most of the consoles you can pirate games anyway. i don't know i have bunch of consoles and pc don't really get all these platform wars.

>>384696181
I like it because I am a technology enthusiast and don't mind fixing stuff. The control scheme and graphics are better, but the cost upfront should give it that. Emulation is also a major point, having every game fifth gen down emulated is amazing. Multimedia functions are great. It's just overall a better package.

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>>384696941
are you really that dumb?

>>384696181
That's pretty good bait

>>384696181
After they pirate and barely touch 10 games, they assume they just saved $600.

>>384697746
>don't work on the old console
>old console
>old
Am I?

It's cheaper when you put the effort in. If you buy a pre-built and do nothing but game on steam all day, yeah it'll seem like a weaker experience, but the true master race builds their own PC (and can run circles around all three next gen consoles for about 400 bucks). You can also pirate every single game for free for a library unparalleled by any other. Of course, if you're a man of morals, you'll want to buy your games, so GOG will be your go-to place. If you're worried about DRM and you don't like using steam, GOG lets you download your games without any software anytime, and you can play them forever online and offline.

It's a model other service providers can learn from, like Nintendo and their fetish with making people buy the same games over and over again on VC.

A pc is more costly upfront but cheaper in the long run due to sales, sites, pirating, emulation and having the ability to change settings manually. Processors age gracefully for the most part as well so the part you'll usually have to change will be your GPU if you find it's not strong enough for your needs.

>>384696181
>keyboard broke
>get a new one for 5-10 doritos
>controller retired
>40-90 dollary doos
makes you think huh

>>384696181
Because console players like you are retarded, so you'lll always fall for this shit.

>>384696181
It is, because you can pirate games and steam sale

>>384698383
Hello GOG shill

>>384696181
>build a piece of shit 200 ~ 300 dollar pc
>pirate all your games

.........................................................seems p cheap to me

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>bought my i5 2500k in 2011
>still use it and have better performance than console games
>mfw

I have a PS4 Pro too but the fact that it can't even get a game like Crash remastered to run higher than 60FPS is a fucking joke

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>>384696181
Hachikuji has no business being this cute.

>>384699723
This. A lot of console kids seem to assume that PC players change their parts every year. The kind of folks who buy high end parts as they're released are a small, very dumb minority that likes to waste money for minimal gains. (Assuming they're only gaming). Most people are set with a decent CPU and midrange GPU.

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>>384696181
>average vidya cost $60
>pirate at least 20 games I'd otherwise have to pay
>games are always cheaper on PC
>literally get my money back
>free movies, tv, books programs for life

best investment of my life

>>384696181
PCs have a much higher entry cost, but you recoup that by spending far less on actual games overall.

>>384700108
But don't you guys upgrade regularly?

https://www.youtube.com/user/jermgaming

>>384700206
buy mid-high range
don't upgrade for 5 years at least

>>384700206
See
>>384699723
I've been using the same CPU for 6 years and am probably going to upgrade it at Christmas. GPU is a Sapphire R9 290X which I bought 3 years ago, which is midrange as fuck but still manages 4k gaming on many titles. If I can't hit 4k on my TV, I can scale it down to 1440p and for everything else, I just use my 1080p/144hz monitor instead

>>384700206
If by regularly you mean with intervals of several years that last longer than console generations. What always amazes me is the complete lack of understanding on console gamer's part of how long pc parts can actually last and how good most of them are. You seem to always think you need top of the line equipment for average performance and this is simply not true.

>>384700418
THIS. You're set with-mid-high for a long while unless you just HAVE to max out every game forever.

>>384700501
To add to this. If a person is upgrading regularly, like the kind of person you might on /g/, it's because they found some enjoyment in the actual building of their pc. I found the very same enjoyment when building my first computer; it's fun.

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>>384700206
Well, you can, but it's necessary unless you absolutely need to stay on the cutting edge of maxed settings in new AAA games; you can get away with only upgrading everything every couple of years, or maybe spreading out a bunch of individual upgrades over that span of time.

>>384700790
>not necessary

>>384700206
At least you are inquiring and not assuming. I can respect that.

We don't have to upgrade regularly, thats what people seem to think. Any PC gamer will tell you that a PC the price of an xbone or PS4 will last multiple years

>>384700418
>>384700501
>>384700532
Pretty much said it best

>>384696181
Pc gaming is cheaper in literally every way, i just built my best freind her first real pc, for less than 400$ with used hardware. It plays pretty much everything from 2016 and before at 60fps or more at 1080p, upscaled to her dads 4k tv.
Console gaming is EASIER. You don't have to think, or do anything difficult, you can just be an idiot, and still play a game.
If you care about your experience and money you play pc, because FOR NOW thats where all the benefits lie.

>people line up for a new $500-600 console
>people order a new high end graphics card for $300-350

Gee, consoles sure are expensive . Not to mention paying to use your own internet.

>>384701052
Also. Stats on her rig are an intel 4560, an nvidia 970 wish-it-was4gb edition, 16gb of my secondhand ram, and some shitty asus mobo i can't be bothered to remember the model number for.

>>384700790
So if I want to play current AAA games at sub-1080p/60fps on low setting, are low-end builds okay or do I still have to go mid-high?

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A PS4 is 200 now at retail, games constantly go on sale so fuck off with this "you have to buy every game at full price" and the good games on the system are singe player games, sony has no good online games so ps plus isn't even mandatory.

Anyone saying a PC for 200 that can even run games today are talking out of their ass.

>>384701052
What's the point of deciding to build your first pc, with used parts?

>>384697683
>>384698767
This entire generation of next-gen consoles I've only upgraded my GPU(last time was in 2012) and I've been more hyped for new emulators coming out than any console game.

It's a blast trying out buggy Wii U, 3DS, 360, and now PS3 games and this year I've actually been able to finish PS3 and Wii U games without issue.

Having entire game libraries coming out for free and being able to mod them a bit is great.

>tfw still using a 2gb 770.

>>384701274
The PS4 also has pretty much no games and those games run like shit.

>spend a bit more on a PC
>get thousands of good free games
>nah I'll stick to PS4 which doesn't even have 20 good exclusives that cost a fortune in most cases

Nioce delusion about online gaming though, fucking cuck.

>>384701274
Not the same anon but maybe because used parts work just as well as new parts? They are cheaper and just as effective?

>>384700875
it isn't. I bought low-midrange and it's lasted me 5-6 years, only now having to put games on lower settings, which is why I'm now upgrading.

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>>384701274
>ps4 = $200
>5 years online = $200 (VERY optimistic)
>shitty PC for normal use = $300

>pc which can beat the ps4 = $400

Obviously you can say b-b-ut I don't play multiplayer or replace my PC every 5 years, but then you'd be lying.

>>384701446
My friend's 770 was still getting 60fps on Dark Souls 3 at high settings. Not even a bad card, although I imagine the 2GB can be limiting in some games.

>>384701559
Not only that but you'll eventually have to move on to the PS5 when sony abandons the 4 and said console may not have backwards comparability. I love consoles myself but largely moved to PC because I don't have the space for x amount of consoles.

>>384700206
Consoles have to upgrade regularly as well my man.

>>384701446
>tfw 670 and plan on keeping it a few more years

>>384701224
Probably? Depends on how low end you're going.

>>384701501
That was a correction, anon.

>>384701274
You can probably build something with 200 bucks of used 2012 parts.

>>384701559
A $300 pc can't beat a ps4

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>complaining about shit costing
>being a wagecuck
>not being a qt trap and getting shit from virgins in exchange for pics of your feet

>>384701790
And i can hustle a ps4 for 100 off ebay or craiglist. If it ain't new/retail i don't wanna hear it.

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>people complaining about having to 'upgrade regularly' with PC gaming when we're right in the middle of the first console generation in history to start pushing more powerful hardware variants of the same family for a premium

>>384700206
I buy another drive every few months.

>>384699723
VV capped it at 30 you retard

>>384701792
https://youtu.be/hSPcD55_bpg

>>384701936
>PC GAMING IS TO EXPENSIVE
>won't buy used
You're just fucking yourself over my man.

>buy PC for work
>end up gaming on it

>>384701792
A $400 one VERY easily can.

All you have to do is buy the cheapest desktop you can find and stuff a $100 gpu in it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071FGH18R/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1500660337&sr=1-1&keywords=pc&th=1

>dying light on pc costs $59.99
>dying light on console costs $19.99
Hmmmm

>>384696181
That's because typical consolefags argument is that a console costs much less than a PC does, while simultaneously forgetting that you also need stuff like a TV to play on a console. Since i don't have a TV, i'd have to buy one which already makes buying a console much more expensive.

>>384701806
>Buying overpriced crap
Your the problem.

>>384696181
To be clear, that only applies to people who actually play more than 4-5 games a year. Of course if you only play 4 games a year a console is cheaper, but if you actually play a variety of games at different price ranges and have enough games to occupy your time that you can wait for $60 AAA releases to go on sale, PC is far cheaper. PC is a platform for people whose hobby is gaming, consoles are a platform for people who enjoy the occasional vidya (or who are too busy to game as much as they would like). Nothing wrong with that.

>>384702085
Was an obvious typo you simpleton

The thing everyone doesn't take into account is that you don't need to buy an entirely new machine to PC game.

If you're posting on 4chan, you already have almost everything you need. Another 100-200 on a new graphics card and you're golden.

>>384702223
>Steam is the only place you can purchase CD keys from

Hmmmm

Why would you get a gf? XDD Just get yourself a flashlight, they're cheaper :PP

t. consolecuck

>>384702227
Why buy a TV when you got a monitor

>>384702223
Dying light on pc costs $0.00

>>384702223
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13887557/Dying_Light_The_Following_Enhanced_Edition-GOG
Hmmmm

>>384702227
Just use a monitor.

>>384702540
>>384702590
Then why buy a console, when i can just use my PC?

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>>384702102
My sides
least consoles are consistent

>>384701274
Same anon as previous. You build out of used parts because its cheaper, and usually they work fine. About the same rate as refurbished ps4's fail.
Plus you have free internet, cheap games, literally any contoller you want, an unending backlog o shitty games, and best of all, mods mods mods.

Wanna know the attraction o pc gaming? YOU get to decide exactly how much it can do and what you are going to pay.

>>384702362
Still isn't the pro's fault you dunce

$400 for a console
$50 for a year of live
$60 for your average game
$55 for a second controller
$300+ for a "Good TV" to game on

$850 (At most) for a computer that will run every game substantially better at higher frame rates, better graphics, better controls, mods and free online, plus most games can be found on sale for dirt cheap.

PC Gaming is cheaper, and offers much more variety in terms of genres, emulators, and applications.

>>384701274
>sony has no good online games so ps plus isn't even mandatory.
what if you want to play fighting games?

>>384696541
If games didn't work on old consoles /vr/ wouldn't exist

>>384702735
>original trailer is in 60FPS
>game releases at 30FPS
>console hardware is completely unrelated in this scenario

>>384702653
Why are you assuming that everyone with access to a monitor has already invested in a custom rig? What does that even have to do with the topic of entry costs?

>>384696181
Because in the long term it is. You may have to pay more money upfront when you first get the thing, but 10 years from now, PC gaming is cheaper due to the higher frequency of sales and deals.

It's like LED bulbs vs. incandescent light bulbs,

>>384703010
I don't understand what are you trying to convey here, anon.

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>>384696181
In the country I live steam prices are about 3x cheaper than console prices (games), also a console here is about the price of a good PC.

Everyone I know has migrated to steam and only a handful of rich people I know owns a console.

I live in BR.

>>384696181
Because you are an adult and you were going to buy a PC anyways, so you might as well spend a little more on a good one.

>>384698103
Yes?

>>384703076
>PC gaming is cheaper due to the higher frequency of sales and deals
I see this point brought up a lot and I have to ask if you PC guys honestly think sales and deals don't exist for console games too.

>>384702668
What do you mean by consistent?

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>its cheaper i swear

>>384703101
Asking why you'd buy a console when you already have a PC is a non-sequitur. It might be a valid question in and of itself, but it has nothing to do with the original subject.

>>384703258
i just said that PC has a higher frequency of sales and deals you idjit. For every one sale and deal console games have, PC games already had 5. I didn't even touch upon the fact that consoles have to pay for online if they want to play P2P.

>>384696181
It's simple. It's cheaper in the long run but gamers want satisfaction now so they spend the cash on a console and end up paying way more

>>384703258

Of course they exist, but they're so far away from one another and they're usually only about 15-20% off. While PC gaming CONSTANTLY has sales upwards of 85% off. Hell, even triple AAA games that are only a month or two old will have sales for nearly 50% off on PC, yet only get a measily 10% on console.

>>384703258
>Sony discounts Tekken 7 recently on their store
>it's still €10 more expensive than the price I got it for at launch off a reseller

They do exist but they're entirely at Sony's discretion and aren't nearly as good. Just look at the Capcom Humble Bundle that's still going

>>384703258
They do but they mostly suck or aren't as hyped as Steam sales since 500+ games on average go on sale and a very large portion of those games are more than %50 off.

>>384702668
https://youtu.be/oxmdc82bTBI?t=257
how is this a good thing?

>>384703392
consistently shit

>>384703392
you have to make sure things are compatible or you can suffer a bottleneck. with consoles it's all in one which makes bottleneck or inconsistencies almost non existent

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>>384703435
>it's cheaper i swear

>>384703110
no one cares about 3rd world countries tho.

>>384703258
It's all relative. Retail prices are much less forgiving to begin with, and discounts often aren't as good or as frequent. It's probably cheaper if you don't buy that many console games, but the situation starts favoring PC once the number of purchases increases.

>>384696541
You don't pay for internet?

>>384703435
>1070
>brand new
>expecting it to be cheap
That's your problem right there. Don't nitpick newer parts and wonder why they are so expensive. and besides any PC gamer will tell you that is isn't worth investing in the latest and greatest parts because they are stupid expensive. Unless you have the money for it then it's not worth getting ultra powerful parts to run games that cheaper parts can run at the same settings

>>384696181
I want to fucky fucky Mayoi's tiny pinky cuncun.

>>384702545
>>384702586
the only reason why games are cheap on pc. If devs don't people pirate the games.

>>384703921
>totally not because of sales and 3rd party sites selling keys for cheaper

>>384696181
>that PC gaming is cheaper than console gaming?
Because It's true you tryhard console war faggot.

Hardware in general is cheaper while offering not just a higher performance but also far more use over all of what the hell you can with it.
And the games are a fuckton cheaper in the long, or short even, too.

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>>384696181
>paying for online
>paying for remakes of old games
>paying $150 for controllers that break after a few weeks
>paying to get access to sales
>losing all access to all your purchases after too many comm bans

>>384701738
What would be the bare minimum?

>>384696181
>Buy a PC
>Pirate games
Wow...? Guess I'm a bum now.

>>384704225
>Pc don't got games
that is factually false you stupid nigger

>>384703597
I see. Well, the build isn't perfect, I would've personally upgraded the CPU as well.

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Developers don't even respect PC users.

You fall for double dipping scams by sega and think they are the good guys. Pc is the platform where developers damage control and try make loss profit back. Gonna be so hilarious when red dead 2 never comes on pc

>>384704339
No.
>buy a pc
>have to wait considerable tine for denuvo cracks

Hate when shit games get wasted with effort on cracks

>>384704647
>implying rockstar isn't going to make people double dip by buying it a console and PC at a letter date
worked for gta5

>>384704405
Ignore that anon, dude thinks shitposting on /v/ is a video game to him.

Also, the main reason why consoles have a lower price point is because they cheap out on a part, such as the CPU being weaker than a i3.

>>384704794
They also get manufacturer discounts from buying in bulk.

>>384704598
and thats the good thing about these builds If they leave room for upgrading you can do it when you have the funds

>>384704853
Yeah that too, forgot about it.

>>384703435
>Posting prices in the middle of the bitcoin rush

>>384696541
>cheaper games
Now that's bullshit and you know it. Go compare prices of used games on Amazon to Steam's. Not to mention that the Steam sales have become inferior to the PS Store's.

>>384704275
I'd hazard a guess that you'd have to stay within the $350 to $400 range at a minimum, but absolutely no lower than $300. It's a good idea to do your own research, since you'd have a better idea of what you'd be playing and what settings/speed would be tolerable.

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>>384705231
>Not to mention that the Steam sales have become inferior to the PS Store's.

>>384705231
GmG, gog and G2a are all good alternative Anon. Plus, humble bundle is primarily PC games nowadays.

>>384703759
He means having to pay extra for xbox glod and whatever the playstation equivalent is on top of paying for normal internet services. Retard.

>>384702223
wait for a sale amd buy for 5 bucks lel

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>Paid mods
>Mid range GPU's cost the same as a PS4Pro
>Steam Sales are garbage now
>Majority of games are shovelware with no quality control
>Steam tricked everyone into buying into a monopoly
>No more demos
>No more physical discs
>Windows costs $120
>Most PC exclusives are still Early Access
>Multiplats are paired down to consoles anyways
The only people who vehemently defend PC gaming as a whole are poorfags or 3rd worlders.

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I'm legit certain the "PC MASTUR RRAAAACE" autists are all underaged. They have to be.

Anyone over the age of 15 doesn't take console war shit seriously. PCfags are just the worst contenders by far.

Being an oldfag I can tell you how cancerous PC gaming in general has always been. It fucking AMAZES me how in >20 years PC games still have the same issues lel

>>384706072
>claims it's expensive
> PC gaming as a whole are poorfags or 3rd worlders
pick one faggot

>>384706268
It's mainly huehues who have ridiculous hatred towards consoles for being so expensive in their dirty "country".

>>384705293
60fps on most games is the only requirement. Graphically intensive games like Witcher 3 don't apply. I primarily intend to play Doom 4, Hitman TM and Phantom Pain.

I have two old 1:25 monitors given for free. There's no point in going higher than 1080p since I run in 1024p.

>>384706072
>Paid DLC
This nullifies your entire post. DLC is literally free on PC.

>>384698103
Indeed you are.

>>384706072
>Cost of piracy: 0$
What is your argument again?

>>384696181

Building a good to fair pc that will tide you over for up to a decade is about as expensive as buying a new gen console on release.

Unlike consoles, most games can still be played on new pcs decades later - albeit using emulators, but that doesn't stop anybody.

Not only does a pc allow you to play older games, it also allows you to play newer ones with tuned down graphics, whereas new console games almost always require you to buy one of the newest generation consoles to enjoy them.

Add to that the ability of a pc to emulate many consoles (especially handheld ones) and run games that also got published to console.

Add to that the huge market for free/indy/freemium games, most of which you won't have access to on console.

Add to that the huge amount of mods for games you bought, keeping the experience fresh for free.

Add to that the ability to upgrade your pc for a couple hundred bucks where you would have to trash your old console because they're famously hard to upgrade.

Add to that the cheaper peripherals - no expensive brand controllers, motion cams, waggle sticks or similar needed here.

Really bro, there's no contest. Coming from someone who owns the latest console and a good to fair pc because he's working.

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>>384706602
>Poorfag has to pirate and hinder the industry
Every time

>>384707179
Damn, I guess me pirating one game is really hurting the industry that is steadily growing and is constantly trying to fuck over consumers for an extra 3 dollars.

I pc game because it is much cheaper. Buy a 200 euro graphics card and I am good for over 4 years. Right now you can get a graphics card equal to the Xbox next for 240 bucks.

That is if you got one before the bitminers fucked everything.

>>384707179
That hindrance is examplified by them fucking customers like you more and more for me pirating their game, oh no. Preorder more I guess.

>>384696181

Because it is in the long run.
Since /v/ loves food analogies; it's like buying fresh groceries for $30 or more compared to buying fastfood (MC Donalds) for $10. However, with the fresh groceries you can cook at least 4 meals, more if you're being careful, which means it costs less than if you eat at MCD every day.

It's the same fallacy poor lardasses use as an excuse for their fatness.
>b-but fastfood is so much cheaper!

>>384706268

I don't take it seriously. I just cringe everytime somebody tries to use fallacies as arguments.
Gaming on a PC is cheaper in the long run. This is a fact.
You can prefer to play on a console, I don't give a fuck, but a PC will do everything better for less money so I don't really get it.
Unless you really want some of the exclusives, which is understandable, but don't think a console will ever compete with a PC in raw money/power ratio.

>>384696181
the games on PC are free

>>384706072

Are you calling a GTX1070 a 'mid range' GPU? Really now?

>>384696181
The partrican answer to that is not buy PC parts new. Buy used and build according to your budget. I built my general purpose pc for 160 USD.

>>384705231
I bought mirrors edge catalyst for 5 dollars the other day on origin. That's 1/10 of the price for an AAA title that was released less than a year ago.

>>384708965
It's denial, it's like paying for a movie or a video game and having to defend it because you don't want to feel like you wasted your money.

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>>384696181
Don't sully best Snail's name with this shit post

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This looks like an interesting thread

>>384696181
On the contrary.
It's a hard, solid fact, with tons of hard to dismiss evidence. However, salty console fanbois can't swallow this bitter pill, and thus make up these threads to try and rewrite history.

>>384706072
>when you take time out of your day to purposely look THIS retarded
beautifully crafted shitpost. Had there been at least one correct point I could have fallen for it.

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>>384710376
ftfy

best milf

>>384696181
But anon, games on PC are free.
What you are talking about?

>Great tier PC that lasts you a decent while in my country = 900 USD
>Normal PS4 and three games plus PS+ = 1200 USD

You do the math OP

I need PC for work shit. Instead of buying a shitty console, I can put that money towards a better PC that can game well too. So the hardware is pretty much even, and it cheaper when you look at video game prices, various console fees (e.g. monthly fees for online access), and general compatibility in the long run (one machine to play everything vs needing multiple machines to play old and new games).

>>384711020
>How do you do, fellow kids?

>>384711557
she knows everything

including how to look good