- 2017, has the graphics of a game from 2004 - most autistic

>>384680059

>playing CS:GO

only 12-year-olds play this game.

Either you play CS:S or CS 1.6, CS:GO is out of the question, lol.

>>384680059
Lots of depth. Solid Mechanics. Good (for some) gameplay. Huge inherited player base from previous titles.

Valve are literally just milking it at this point, but so long as it doesn't affect gameplay too much this shit won't die by them.

>>384680108
>Either you play CS:S or CS 1.6, CS:GO is out of the question, lol.

Literally the same game.

ARE YOU READY FOR GAMBIT DOMINATION

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>>384680059

People still play this shitty game? Literally nothing ever gets updated in it, valve refuses to make any improvements or balance changes to the game, and everyone literally just uses it as a gambling platform for skins anyway now.

>>384680059
>graphics whore, most good players run it on low settings, its not about the graphics its about finding what works for you
>get good, there's a reason you get spanked every time by better players, it's not all random
>its the nature of anti cheat to be one step behind cheaters, they can't ban what hasn't been made yet, as for smurfs who gives a shit, git gud
>play with friends if you want to not play with randoms
>shouldnt take 1000 hours to figure out a game m8
>its like saying why play xcom when you can play WoW, they're different games

>>384680134
>Lots of depth. Solid Mechanics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds

>Huge inherited player base from previous titles.
Most of the playerbase wasn't even born when the previous titles were still relevant.

>>384680290

t. never played anything else than CS:GO

>>384680630
Keep telling yourself it's the games "bugged game mechanics" that you're shitty, Phil.

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Anyone ever thought about valve fixing player stats? There is no way that over 500,000 people are currently playing this. It takes ages to find a comp game.

>>384680860
I'm not wouldn't consider myself shitty nor good. Dmg eu here. However have you watched the vid? You can't deny that, or are you denying math itself?

I think it's absolute garbage. CSGO and any game where you ADS are boring as fuck. Shooters basically come down to movement positioning and aiming. Counterstrike almost entirely removes movement from fights. Arena shooters or really any game where you move during combat are way better.

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>>384681014

vee is always so salty about the best fps in history lol

there is a reason why 20k people still play fucking cs 1.6, you know

tune in btw, there is a great tourney going on

>>384680108
I'm sorry anon, not everyone is autistic

that's not in greentext
I cannot read that

Shut the fuck up cs go is the most compititve game right now

>>384680987
yes of course I've watched the video, I don't even need to watch the video, I've been playing Counter-Strike for over 14 years by now I'm sure.

It's stupid, but it doesn't ruin the entire game by any means.

Name ONE (1) modern competitive multiplayer game that people actually play with better and more skillful mechanics. I'll wait.

>>384680868
bots dude

>>384681796
Fighting games. Depending on your definition of "actually play" arena shooters.

>>384681796
>modern competitive multiplayer game that people actually play with better and more skillful mechanics
Starcraft, Dota, fucking LoL ... any rts or moba ever

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>>384680059
Virgins

>>384682002
>people play Starcraft, the RSI simulator
>DotA and LoL taking skill

you invalidated everything you said by outing yourself as a retard.

>>384681957
Most pro's would say that SF5 doesn't take nearly as much skill as they'd like. I'm pretty sure all of them are very unhappy with the game. Anything else either isn't modern or doesn't have the playerbase to say that people "actually play" it.

>>384681796
>I've been playing Counter-Strike for over 14 years by now
i doubt that. no one that seriously played 1.6 likes csgo. csgo is a joke. it's worse than source. the game is noob shit from top to bottom. the map design is horrendous, there's too many angles that really dumb things down. on top of that even the "pros" often just go straight to crouching and spraying without aiming. is this by design because the shooting mechanics are terrible or as the skill level seriously declined this much? the game sucks. the ONLY reason csgo is popular is because of skins and gambling. before skins the game was dead and dying. the competitive scene is alive simply because everyone gets salaried for playing a video game

>>384682146
What does "RSI simulator" mean?

Dota and lol take skill but they are bad examples since there's random chances of critical hits etc.

>>384682146
Nah a lot of pros have warmed up to it over the past year. The evo winner this year has been a fan of the game pretty much since release.

Tekken is also fantastic and has a big player base. You kind of dodged me on the arena shooter thing. They're way better than csgo man. Any game where you stand still or go slow to shoot is fucking awful, I'd even rather play class based shooters because at least they go fast.

>>384682243

>i doubt that. no one that seriously played 1.6 likes csgo. csgo is a joke. it's worse than source. the game is noob shit from top to bottom.

/thread

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>>384680059
>why play this if you can play quake moba

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>>384682146
>Thinks cs go takes skill

>>384682317
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury

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>>384682379
I never said arena shooters didn't take skill, but I said there had to be people that actually play it. Quake Champions will probably toil in mediocrity for a long time, never being adopted by the masses.

>>384682317
It means you have to be an autistic korean slave trained for 24 hours a day at the cost of the usability of your hands and wrists and body in general to be able to compete, forcing people to retire at extremely young ages because of the deterioration.

>>384682243
Really made me think.

>>384682439
>I--I'm really good! I just don't try because the game sucks.. ha...hahaha! Sure showed.. sh--showed you!

>>384682591
yeah, my friend bought four dig too despite starting to play in 2005

>>384682591
You're setting up a pretty narrow standard for alive. "requires a moderate amount of skill and has lots of 14 year olds farming for skins" isn't what I would consider the paragon of the competitive genre.

You discount anything harder with "no players" and anything with more players as "not hard enough". It's like you're goldilocks and csgo is porridge. It moves about as fast as porridge I guess.

>>384682591
>It means you have to be an autistic korean slave trained for 24 hours a day at the cost of the usability of your hands and wrists and body in general to be able to compete, forcing people to retire at extremely young ages because of the deterioration.

High skill cealing - high standards

>>384682136
Do those guys look better?

>>384682724
If it's hard to believe that people are both more experienced and better than you I guess that's ok, Anon.

>>384682814
you have no idea who i am or what my experience is. stop projecting, scrub

>>384680059
>- most autistic gun mechanics in a shooter ever
that's why

>>384682747
>High skill cealing - high standards

The game is shit, and so is any game that plays like it. Where a single mistake/delay in the period of the game where you haven't even encountered the enemy yet means you lose because of the butterfly effect.

No such thing has come backs, or being able to overcome disadvantages with skill or clutch. It's all about autistically executing your pre-planned build order as expertly as you can before you actually start fighting or even interacting with your foe.

>>384682860
Which one of us is projecting, again?

>>384682243
Not true, source had really big hitboxes compared to 1.6, it was really easy to hit anything. Csgo is closer to 1.6, maybe even worse in that regard.

>>384682982
you are, scrub. continue paying for accounts though

>>384683042
CSGO has the tightest hitboxes of the series.

Further proof the angry shitters have no idea what they're talking about.

>>384683093
I've literally never bought a 2nd hand account though. Is it that hard to believe that some people aren't awful, shitty players that need to make excuses for their lack of any prowess at all?

What a brainlet.

>>384683108
That's kinda what anon said, stop playing low tier games and read a book.

>>384683281
I was agreeing with what anon said, stop reading children's books and get reading comprehension.

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>>384680108
>1.6
you haven't played it recently have you

>>384683348
Alright, which fantasy books can you recommend? YOu seem to have experience with that.

>>384683457
The Last Wish :^)

Why do people insist on being so autistic about csgo's graphics?

They literally and objectively are not bad. Granted it's not 2017 quality, but all of the updated maps are perfectly well beyond 2012's
average graphics. And that's at a much higher framerate too.

>>384683559
60hz v-sync shitters.

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>>384682982
>Plays cs go
>half of every round is spent to to set up in the same spots over and over again on the shittiest maps known to shooters
>for up to 39 rounds
>random chance decides who wins
>claims this takes skill

>>384680059
I only played CS 1.5 with bots :D

It't wouldn't be so bad if valve didn't make a good anticheat and make the gun fell powerful instead of like I'm firing a nerf gun. And why did they have to add all of these shitty guns the no one uses.

I play it every once and a while and I'll admit I do enjoy it but no as much as I would with cs source.

quakefags are obsessed

>>384683645
>random chance decides who wins
outing yourself as a lame, anon.

it also has some of the best multiplayer maps in gaming of all time.

>>384683559
OP here, I'm aware that graphics don't matter for video games. It's still a lazy effort by Volvo if you'd ask me. Most of you probably don't even know that CSGO was meant to be a console port of CSS.

It's only popular with poor third worlders. You're deluding yourself if you think many westerners outside of underage fags and "pros" still play.

>>384680059
isnt this the game that has that sniper rifle that kills anything in one hit?

what's the point of using other weapons?

>>384683840
>underage fags
Who the fuck do you think made CS 1.6 a success with tons of players?

Games are played by underage fags, you dumb nigger.

>>384683741
I thought you watched this anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds

>it also has some of the best multiplayer maps in gaming of all time.
Says who? Oh yeah the cs "community".
They are shit.

>>384681251
>unironic lol
14 yo csgokiddie go.

>>384683928
What a great counter, this truly shows how bad the tightly designed and fine-tuned-for-over-a-decade maps are.

https://youtu.be/v0rlCJ047Ds?t=218

unironically parroting this guys opinion, nice dude.

>>384683806
>Most of you probably don't even know that CSGO was meant to be a console port of CSS
It's a very commonly known fact how csgo started off, you still somehow managed to misinterpret that information though. Impressive.

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>>384684069
>"opinion"
>thumbnail literally says "Empirical Analysis"

>>384683890
It's expensive, you get very little cash for kills with it (Assault rifles get 300 per kill, AWP gets 50) and it have a very low firing rate so AWPers without AR backup will easily be rushed by enemy players.

You have 1 or 2 AWPers on a team to lock down chokepoints and that's it.

How the fuck do you shoot in this game?
Like I have my crosshair literally right on the enemy and yet all my shots miss and I die first.

>>384684196
Oh, did he empirically prove the maps aren't masterpieces of game design?

>>384684237
>every poster that complains about the game summed up

>>384684253
This was about random chance, the video has nothing to do with map design. How about you actually watch it?

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>>384684253
>masterpieces of game design

>>384684336
I just think games where you stand still to shoot are bad and boring. That includes this and any game with ADS. This game is basically proto-cod.

>>384684343
I watched it when it was posted on the subreddit over a year ago, I didn't need to watch it then and I don't need to watch it now. First bullet inaccuracy is bad but it literally inconsequential in 95% of encounters, and almost always irrelevant otherwise due to the use of smokes and flashbangs and other things to close the distance before fighting.

>>384684253
These maps were designed by random modders who knew shit.
>Weapon balance is piss poor, was even worse back then
>Couldn't code for shit, bunnyhopping wasn't patched out until years later (which btw made the game even worse)

CS:GO is objectively the best CS game. 1.6 has better bhops sure.. but that doesn't make it a better game. GO is more tactical and takes more skill to land shots. I've played them all extensively. It's a shame CS is a hard game that scrubs like most of you will never enjoy.

There should be a detailed tutorial of the actual mechanics in the game, it'd be a lot more popular.

I hated cs:go at first too, but it's been patched and I've learned its mechanics. It's GOAT.

>>384684671
>These maps were designed by random modders who knew shit.
Yeah, maybe when they first ever released, or do you ignore the over 14 years of fine-tuning and honing of the design?

>bunny hopping was a feature of CS and not Goldsrc in general

it just keeps getting better, folks!

>there's literally a jump bug that is KILLING a MAJOR TOURNAMENT that's going on RIGHT NOW
Why does Valve let these things happen? What the fuck is wrong with them?

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>>384681130
>This autism spewed by some retard that conveniently has no evidence to backup anything he says
>"Us oldfag Quakers, right guys?"
Funny how most of the people I knew that were hardcore into Quake also liked playing CS. Is it narcissism or just autism to think that replacing powerups with an economy system, adding rounds, or just having the audacity to make a slow-paced game about counter-terrorists and terrorists was part of some dedicated effort to dumb down the genre and piss off Quake players?

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>>384684752

>>384684871
>I have nothing else I could say in response, let's post a funny meme to deflect! Haha! Reading a specific games subreddit to keep up with news is the same as being an EPIC plebbitor! Narwhal bacon loser! Hehe!

The CSGO sub is infinitely better than the awful /csgog/ thread which is full of actual faggots that are horrid at the game.

>>384684752
>more tactical
strategies are literally useless in this game compared to the previous installments
are you fucking kidding me

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>>384684851

>>384684770
>>bunny hopping was a feature of CS and not Goldsrc in general
>implying that it wasn't a bug in the quake 1 engine

>>384684802
No it's not you dumbfuck, the players agreed to not use it and it only fucked up a couple group stage matches.

This major is hot garbage though.

Valve just needs to make an actual anti cheat and let players play MM on 128 tick servers. People would pay a subscription for it, they already do.

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>>384684970
/vg/ is a reddit containment board so what's your point, redditor?

>>384685059
ESEA and Valve have an under the table agreement. They will not do this.

>>384683645
>random chance decides who wins
Then why have pro teams been able to dominate others for ages? NIP won 87 games in a row when it came out and Fnatic took nearly every tournament for like a year straight. How are some players and teams consistently good if random chance determines so much of victory?

>>384685009
Ya I mean they are useless when you are a silver like yourself and everyone just runs around and frags because they don't know how to play yet.

>>384685059
Like on consoles? Cool.
>384685015

>>384685091
>>384685015
>>384684934
>>384684871

>I can't possibly prove my shitty opinions to be true, so now it's time to derail this thread with all of these EPIC images!

>>384685127
Ya there's no reason for it though, it only hurts the game. People playing on MM do not get the full experience, 64 tick is ass and the rampant cheating turns many away. Prime is a joke.

>>384685145
The win by using smokes, flashes and "teamplay". Trusting your guns is csgo is like trusting cards in poker. Kind of a shitty idea for a shooter desu.

>>384685176
>playing fps on console
o u hav me laffin m8

>>384685287
>The win by using smokes, flashes and "teamplay".
That's literally what makes it good...

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>>384685091
>>384685015
>>384684934
>>384684871

>LE REDDIT IS INVADING MY BOARD

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>>384680059
assblasted baby trying to play a competitive game
with his normalfag mindset

Team shooters, for the people who don't have the skill for arena shooters but still want to feel "competitive"

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>>384685203

>>384685337
>That's literally what makes it good...
Nah, more like that's what keeps it from being the shittiest shooter on the market.

>>384685015
Fuck off, retard.

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>>384685384 [user was gifted 4chan gold for this post]

>>384685397
Shitposting, for the autistic kids that can't make it in any game, but want to pretend like they can.

>>384685392
Quake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CS

>>384685494
>mindlessly jump around and spam rockets
>good game
pick one

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>>384685461

>>384685486
>Shitposting, for the autistic kids that can't make it in any game, but want to pretend like they can.
So doing good in a game (especially cs) is an achievement now? Get a life.

>>384680059
>- "I played 1000 hours of this, the first half wasn't fun but then it was really great because I could actually shoot stuff"
>SO, why is this game so great again?

You wasted 500 hours of not having fun? And then come onto /v/ to ask why it's great?

This has to be bait...
If it's not why would you waste 500 hours of your life forcing yourself to play a game you weren't having fun with?

>>384685287
>The win by using smokes, flashes and "teamplay"
Yeah, all of these things are obviously important to win though I don't understand why teamplay is in quotations, but certain players are still routinely praised for having great aim and just winning aim duels. Why would players like s1mple and Coldzera get so much praise for their aim and consistency if the game does not allow for consistently good aim?

>>384685545
Even if that was all it was it would still be better than stand still and shoot simulator.

>>384685545
>Mindlessly wait behind cover for enemies
>or "Buy P90 Rush B Don't stop"
> good game in 2017

>>384685565
Why do you have so many reddit images saved?

>>384680059
Graphical improvements and revamps of maps are being done since its release.
Gun Mechanics has nothing to do with you being bad and 64tick rate doesnt help either.
Valve gave the ban hammer right after the Summer Sale ended.
Language barrier is nothing if you know how to play the map and use the comms. The radar is your friend.
CS GO is not an arena shooter.

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ITT: I suck at quake and cs:go so I hate it

>>384685742
Well he browses reddit, that's pretty obvious.

>>384680868
Bots, not all of them plays matchmaking,

>>384682136
the one you circled is a know aimlocker as well

>tfw all the supposed quake players in this thread don't even play quake live or reflex
>tfw they probably enjoy quake champions with its compromised design, shitty artstyle, bad sound design, unbalanced and uninspired characters, dumbed down map control, dumbed down constrained movement, broken netcode, shitty gamemodes and worse mouse input than games from 20 years ago.

>>384685678
"2A,3B"
isn't really to be considered teamplay.

>Why would players like s1mple and Coldzera get so much praise for their aim and consistency if the game does not allow for consistently good aim?

Sure they hit some shots. But like 30% of the time game decides to screw them over?

i could probably beat you at quake and cs go OP

>>384685727
>Buy P90 Rush B Don't stop
A single guy with mac at the end of the platforms will fuck you up even if you smoke.

>>384685951
>Sure they hit some shots
You've never watched a skilled player play this game, have you?

>>384683928
The video just shows how accuracy of a weapon changes over distance you moron, your video proves nothing.

>>384686015
OP here. Might be. But I have a life (actually I made a thread on /v/ ... maybe not).

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>>384686037
found the silver!

>>384685545
Quake actually requires skill though unlike CS

>>384686037
A single molly fucks everything. Learn to play the position you decide to go to.

>>384686224
>Quake actually requires skill
arena shooters are completely braindead which is why the only survivors of the genre embraced MOBA elements (Overwatch, Quake Chamions, Lawbreakers)

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>>384685772
>>384685913
The vast majority of people on /v/ are absolute trash at video games. I realized this when somebody in one of these threads was trying to say that Quake didn't require game sense, unlike CS, and was therefore better because it was just mechanical skill.

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>>384685742
>>384685841

>>384686085
https://youtu.be/VDf6UmkwS-k?t=35m9s

"Pro" gets destroyed by random players and even calls hacks. Great consistent game.

>>384686561
At 35.09

>>384684802
OH ANOTHER EXPLOIT FOUND IN A GAME PLAYER FOR A BILLION HOURS.

Get a grip, shit like that happens all the time, at least is not as the hitbox bug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7cN9ygNE00

>>384686224
>Le splash damage simulator that involves prefiring spawn points with rockets as you circle through the map to collect ammo to keep prefiring spawn spots
Quake aged poorly. It's more interesting to watch japanese bug fights. Mindless point and click games aren't fun to watch.

Sure, you might click on a head and miss in csgo, but at the same time, someone could do a tricky little smoke, hide behind a corner and trick the enemy team into walking past, taking down 3-4 in a blaze of glory before they get shot up

Is quake live still alive? I've played reflex and it's pretty fun, but the online is usually dead.

>>384686376
Sounds like you've never played an arena shooter. They are dead because they have a very high skill ceiling and don't have loads of crutches for people who are bad

>>384686561
He was pretty close to crying. He called hacks on his own teammate in the first few minutes and they made fun of him all the time. So cringy. Recommended watch!

>>384686749
They are dead because the most popular mode, duels, are momentum based boring shitshows where you just run and hide long enough to whittle down the opponent if you're ever even able to because you don't have your "stack" built up.

>>384686693
Csgo is boring. People just stand still and plink away at each other. People going really fast while still hitting those shots is much more interesting. Controlling weapon spawns is more important than people throwing smokes and flashes then running through a door.

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>>384680059
Why do people always get so mad about the fact people enjoy this game and end up comparing it to Quake?

>>384685951
>"2A,3B"
>isn't really to be considered teamplay.
What makes you think this is all that goes into teamplay in CS? Have you watched one of the POVs of pro teams and listened to their comms and watched how they positioned around each other?

>But like 30% of the time game decides to screw them over?
If they got screwed over 30% of the time then they wouldn't be considered consistent, would they? There are several pro players that have over a 50% headshot ratio. It seems like that'd be pretty hard if it's all RNG and they can't rely on their guns.

>>384686561
I saw that vid already. It was disappointing, but he obviously wasn't prepared for the bullshit that comes with playing on 70+ ping. For one you need to change your interp rate, and for another you can never, ever hold angles and have to play extremely defensively or stupidly offensive, which he absolutely fucked up on, sitting behind corners that enemies can see behind faster than he can see them, because he's used to playing on 5-30 ping.

>>384680059
>be shit at csgo
>make thread to complain on 4chins
what are you in midschool? lmao

>>384686961
Their fee fees are hurt because no one likes their dead game

>>384686856
Meanwhile games like CS don't even have a duel mode because it would expose how little mechanical depth there is too it and how little individual skill actually matters

>>384686961
Same reason rts fans dislike mobas. There can only be one huge game for each genre and it invariably seems to be the worst one every time.

I would love to live in a world where csgo had 3000 players and tribes or unreal or something was huge.

>>384680059
>the cheater meme again
nobody cheats in CS, you just suck

>>384686998
70 ping shouldn't be a huge problem, that's no excuse at all.
After all this guy is a pro. You should be able to destroy random players easily.
>For one you need to change your interp rate
Rate only determines how many bytes per second are sent and received from the server ...

>>384687123
So you really do just come onto these forums and post nonsense. Ever heard of AM_ maps for the 1v1 mode? Obviously not because you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>384687336
Edit, only read rate
Interp rste is controlled by the game itself, this isn't 1.6

>>384687336
>>Rate only determines how many bytes per second are sent and received from the server ...
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Interp is interpolation, how your client represents and calculates the data that is received from the server. Higher interp = "smoother" looking, less accurate representation.

>>384686880
I guess that's where we disagree.
Going really fast is literally the only thing quake has going for it. Bunnyhopping is fun. Splash damaging people to death or using a laser gun that tracks your mouse movement perfectly isn't particularly skillful or entertaining. CSGO has the potential for and rewards clever plays. Quake is all about doing the same shit over and over and over and over and over again.

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>>384687150
>tribes or unreal

>>384687503
>Interp rste is controlled by the game itself, this isn't 1.6
Also wrong.

cl_interp_ratio and cl_interp are both client controlled variables.

stop posting when you have no idea what you're on about

>>384687419
1v1 in cs is a joke

>>384687612
t. arena 10 poster

>>384686561
>One video of a mediocre pro having a bad game in MM when nobody even takes MM that seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yj4LsxE1lg
https://youtu.be/bEOipjCN35U?t=2m25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSPXTA8GCg
Here's three videos of s1mple, one of which is in FPL.

>>384687505
See edit

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>>384687336
The only people who say that are used to playing with sub-40 pings, and I intensely dislike how they spout opinions as if they have a clue in the world what they are talking about.

>>384687419
There's a reason why 1vs1 in CS is basically not done as a competitive thing. It's because it's the original 'blame your team when you fuck up' game designed for people who couldn't handle things that prioritise individual skill

>>384687564
What's wrong wee baby no come back? Aww is the wee baby going to cry?

>>384687693
see reply

>>384687756
>game is designed to exemplify team play, everything is designed around team play and grenade coordination

HAHAHAH WOOOOW DUDE I CAN'T 1V5 WITH NO GRENADE so STUUUPID

>>384687810
Why would you pick those piles of shit over quake?

I love quake/reflex duels but they can get very stressful and the only game with proper matchmaking (reflex) is almost dead.
On the other hand, I don't like other gamemodes like clan arena which is basically all mechanical skill. Ctf and tdm are fine but nobody plays them.
CSGO on the other hand is perfect for team play, it is more relaxed and I can enjoy it for more without getting stressed, the matchmaking is probably the best on the market and the skill ceiling is still very high.
Is it really so difficult for you guys to enjoy 2 games for the fact that they do 2 different things?

>>384687551
>Splash damaging people to death or using a laser gun that tracks your mouse movement perfectly isn't particularly skillful or entertaining
>Claims that times rockets and perfectly tracking people while running at the speed of doped up usain bolt doesn't require skill
>Thinks that camping a corner and waiting for a head to pop up to shoot with inaccurate guns is

>>384687860
I said or something. Quake is obviously great as well but I always preferred unreal, sue me.

>>384687336
>70 ping shouldn't be a huge problem
if you play mm with 50+ honestly just kill yourself

>>384687990
>if you play mm with 50+ honestly just kill yourself
if you play csgo honestly just kill yourself
Edited that for you. :)

>>384686561
>>384687336
>After all this guy is a pro. You should be able to destroy random players easily.
Being a pro doesn't make you completely infallible and Shroud isn't exactly top-tier. You can't name me a game where the average pro player literally cannot be beaten by anybody who isn't pro-tier, especially a team-based game. You realize those players are all still GE and part of the top 0.5% of players, right? They're considered trash by top-tier players but they can still easily take a game off a lone pro player who isn't trying that hard and/or is having a bad day.

>>384680059
Isn't this game only played by 12 year olds and thrid worlders who can't afford a decent pc?

>>384688146
thanks reddo

>>384688161
I would be really shocked if the average fighting game pro lost a first to 10 against a non pro player.

>>384687878
People get creative with common angles, they don't expect to get a kill unless there are certain circumstances allowing it (such as when the enemy team doesn't have enough money for grenades or if you have INCREDIBLY quick reactions, silvers running into a bottleneck and dying one by one isn't the be all and end all of csgo strategy, contrary to popular belief), they expect to see somebody and make up a strategy on the fly. People using smokes and bursting out of a corner under cover and getting outplayed by a single guy who called the bluff and moved in close is fun to watch.

>>384688161
Global Elite in NA is like MGE/DMG in Europe though. This guy is committing his life to cs. Then he proceeds to call hacks and nearly has a breakdown. That's very professional.

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>>384685545
>>384686376
>>384686693
>>384687847

>there are people here who actually defend CS
>the game that was designed to be middle of the road shit for people who can't get git gud at any shooter thats remotely specialized

Counter Strike is essentially a shooter for people who don't actually like shooters. It just replaces the requirement for mechanical skill in order to be good, with external shit like memorising spray patterns

You would literally improve more in CS by watching youtube videos of someone explaining the weapon spray pattern than you would by actually playing for 50 hours

>>384683890
Because economy.

>>384688383
>Global Elite in NA is like MGE/DMG in Europe though.
That's a meme.

>This guy is committing his life to cs. Then he proceeds to call hacks and nearly has a breakdown. That's very professional.
Didn't really watch it but I wouldn't call it a breakdown. Who really gives a shit about his mental state anyway? You're from /csgog/ aren't you?

>>384688354
>1v1 game vs 5v5 team game
Gee, I wonder why there's different expectations

>>384688449
I'd say recoil control is a pretty mechanical skill. Also, why would you watch youtube video when you can simply fire a weapon itself and practise?

>>384688354
>first to 10
How many fighting games even play first to 10? All the shit I saw at EVO was like a BO5. Either way, if you want to go down that route then the CS pro would need to get a BO3 match to make it even since we're apparently going by tournament standards now and not just random matching.

>>384688643
>Also, why would you watch youtube video when you can simply fire a weapon itself and practise?
Because he's bad at the video game. Same reason he thinks watching a video would transfer over to actual play at all or that controlling recoil isn't a mechanical skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQpIGGQchA

Here is another one. "Pro" ties against novas.
Your average MGE could carry that easily.

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>>384688449
Mechanical skill such as stutter stepping or quick peeking/ crouch peeking and aiming directly at peoples faces within nanoseconds, getting the kill and getting the fuck out of there before their team tries to trade the kill?

Face it. If you're talking about mechanical skill in quake, the only thing you can talk about is tracking aim, something cs does equally, if not more, because you don't have lasers or splash damage to essentially act as auto aim.

Bunnyhopping is fun, but it's easy as fuck, it's not some complex movement system that beats every other game, and anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves or is genuinely bad at quake.

>>384689031
>Implying tracking aim is required in cs

>>384688930
that's weird
my smfc buds plow through lower ranks like they are playing against bots

ITT: retards bad at quake and bad at cs trying to discuss games they dont understand

>>384689114
>t. someone who has never been rushed down by a tec-9 push

>>384688930
>Running around corners with a negev and a revolver
He's really trying super hard.

>>384689192
Well here you see a video of a "pro" failing at that.

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>>384689031
Hey, I just figured out the "checkmate atheists" of quaketards.

Do YOU find bunnyhopping hard?
>No
I guess it's not such an amazing mechanical skill to compare to every other game then.
>Yes
I guess you're just a trash player then and your opinion doesn't matter anyway

>>384689196
Basically. I don't understand why I click on these threads.

>>384689397
there's only one quake game with bunnyhopping and 1.6 had bhop as well

>>384689496
>one quake game with bunnyhopping
what?

>>384689496
Every quake has bunnyopping in it lol.
It was in 1.6 because they weren't able to patch it out in GoldSOurce which was based on the quake 1 engine.

>>384689410
We should just collectively shit on Quake Champions

>>384689653
quake 2-4 don't have bunnyhopping they have strafe jumping please learn basic nomenclature

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Can't we all agree that Quake and CS can't compare to the skill level required in CoD Singleplayer?

>>384689031
Have you ever played Quake?

It's not about bunnyhopping by itself. It's the core speed and overall movement system combined with the verticality of the map design. Where you need to be able to aim while moving at high speeds simultaneously.

CS is low skill because it's ultimately using the same kind of system that was used to create the dumbed down generation of COD type shooters with ironsights. You're basically always making a choice.

>stand still and be able to shoot semi accurately
>move at any kind of speed and you won't hit shit and bullets will basically be coming out of your gun at 45 degree angle

This image >>384681130 gets things wrong, but the second point is totally correct. CS was designed for scrubs who were rinsed at arena shooters because they weren't coordinated enough to be able to aim and shoot while moving

>>384689754
It's literally the same thing.

The worst thing about csgo is slide movement effect, when it's not enough to let button to full stop, but you have to press opposite button. I don't remember this shit in 1.6.

>>384689850
that's how i know you don't play quake

Off course you low level noobs find the game bad when you cue with randoms and not a pre made full lobby with every1 sitting in teamspeak.

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>>384689114
>implying it isn't
>implying people should live long enough to track people and pepper them to death with splash damage because they can't tap heads

Quake rewards "aim assist" style playing.

>>384690009
>Is a 12 year old who used moms credit card to buy an ugly skin for a virtual ak
Nice viewmodel btw, looks good.

>>384680059
>-most autistic hitscan detection and gun mechanics in a shooter ever
ftfy

>>384690009
I think I've seen a vid or screen where some quake pro was bullied when he tried to play cs and failed.

>>384690179
Mum says I'm allowed to buy skines with her credit card because I have a stable job and a STEM degree

>>384690304
https://youtu.be/VDf6UmkwS-k?t=35m9s
I think I've seen a video of a cs pro where he tried to play and failed. Then he got bullied by his teammates for being autistic.

>>384685893
kek, JW is actually the one person on fnatic that definitely DOESN'T aimlock

you wanna talk about pros cheating, lets talk about fucking immortals
garbage tier favella monkeys come out of fucking nowhere and are all of a sudden in the semifinals for a major
HEN1 had the entire twitch chat the other day screaming VAC because of his obvious walls the entire viewerbase witnessed live

>>384688449
then why aren't you playing it at the top level and making millions, anon? it's just an easy casual game, right?

>>384690365
Sure, that's why you play csgo.

>>384690437
I've already said why he fucked up. He should have realized his default playstyle wouldn't work when other people use his shitty ping against him before he gets a chance to shoot back, but that has been a constant criticism throughout his career. He's extremely static and can't improvise in a pinch.

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>>384690365

>>384690639
>tfw 14 to a maximum of 30 hours over 2 weeks
I'll never get global

reminder there is no rng in csgo

>>384690869
First shot spread.

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>>384690962
>subaru

>>384690952
not rng

i hope this game dies. i know it won't happen due to players invesment into skins. the real game is an economic skin selling simulator. the real game is full of hackers and foreigners. unless you want to pay real money for ESEA.

>>384690179
I can put the viewmodel deets in /csgog/ if you want

>>384691053
I had an MR-S before, with the intention of putting a 2zz in it and converting it to manual so I can race dagumi, but insurance would be a bitch.

>>384691157
>Bullet landing in a random location is not random
What the fug

>>384691401
>random
(you)

>>384691401
If it's consistently different location, it's not random.

>>384691504
>Random now means it has to be within infinity to infinity even if a bullet goes to a random place randomly every time it's shot
WHAT THE FUG

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>>384682243
>no one that seriously played 1.6 likes csgo
Except for many professional players who were successful in 1.6 and still play at the highest level in CS:GO.

>>384690952
First shot spread balances the guns.

There was a time when the AK in GO had pefect first shot accuracy, and it was OP as fuck. You could duel AWPs and consistently come out on top.

It also balances the pricing of the weapons.
If the first shot spread was perfect, the Galil and FAMAS would upset the balance between the low-mid-high tier rifles.

And if you want better first shot accuracy, get the AUG or SG.

Only retarded Europeans took CS seriously. It's a meme. Anyone with a brain played fun shit like minigames and surf.

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>>384680059
Agree. CSGO is RNG trash that occasionally lets you win by sheer luck. If you disagree you don't understand the game on an elementary level so your opinion is invalid.

>>384691184
I was being sarcastic. But thanks anon.

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>>384692245
>CSGO is RNG trash that occasionally lets you win by sheer luck.
>When you're so bad that you can't win without getting lucky

>>384692369
It was a facetious post.

>>384692369
Hello Gold Nova shitter
You'll pick up the basics soon enough
:^)

How to fix CSGO:

>Make tap-firing viable again
>Bring back the old AWP movement
>Change the way maps are picked

>>384692650
>Bring back the old AWP movement
Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

CSGO AWP is the most balanced iteration of the gun.

>>384680108
CS:S is fucking garbage compared to even GO and 1.6 is dead. Fuck off.

>>384692650
>Make tap-firing viable again
They did...

>>384692650
You're supposed to tap in almost every situation, spraying is shit in csgo.

>>384692650
You only full-auto if you are 1 inch away or just supressing through smoke or through piercing walls.
Spray in any other situation is dumbness.

>>384692530
It's hard to tell at this point.

Why would Volvo want to stop smurfing? Just means more money for them.

>>384692725
>CSGO AWP is the most balanced iteration of the gun.
aahahhhahashahahahahaha
*wheezing*
ahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahaha

>>384680108
yea, maybe in 2006 dumbass

>it's another "/v/ shits on CS episode"

You'd think that because everyone hates it they'd move on. But everyday they must remind everyone else.

>>384693983
Literally nobody complains about the AWP any more