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Are guardians the best designed enemies in zelda games so far

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Are guardians the best designed enemies in zelda games so far

Also BOTW thread I guess
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no. lynels are
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>>384676946
My nigga
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>>384676826
Are guardians powered by magic? That's lame, I thought they were pure robots
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>>384676826
Speaking about guardians is there any use for their cores? I'm thinking of selling them
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>>384677489
It's used to upgrade the guardian armour. Personally I think it's ugly as fuck so I would sell it
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>>384677674
>guardian armour
>ugly
It's aesthetic as fuck bruh
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>>384676826
Guardians are great but I like Lynels more.
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>>384677110
It's ancient sheikah technology. It's probably some sci-fi energy source
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>>384677957
>not having a shrine on your head
What are you gay?
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>>384676826
Can we all agree Gerudo Town is the best town in the game?
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>>384677043
Wow can u fuck these?
Might get this game...
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>>384677957
I love the armor but hate the helm. Seeing Link with his hair down is neat, though.

>>384678595
You can mount them.
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>>384678572
Rito village is better
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>>384678909
No way. It's the worst village by far
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>>384679313
It has the best music though
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Guardians is what happens when you give Beamos legs
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These threads make me want to get back in the groove of the game. I guess I'll ask, where is the best place to grind Guardians for Ancient cores? I haven't really bothered with Robbie's shop yet.
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Breath of the wild is the worst zelda I've ever played, and I've played phantom hourglass
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Fuck your shitty botw enemies, real greatest of all time coming through.
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>>384679423
But that's not Tarrey Town
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>>384680347
>*memorizes your pattern*
what not, dark cuck?
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>>384679840
The area near hyrule castle is crawling with them
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>>384680347
>dude
>it's a human
>with ow the edge armour
>dude it's top tier
Get your shit taste outta here
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>>384676946
>Regular enemy, not even considered a miniboss, is both more difficult and has far more complexity than every actual boss in the game, including the final boss
There really should have been more enemies like Lynels.
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>>384680734
>everything black is edgy and edgy is bad
you sound like a teenager
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>>384676946
>>384676826
>>384677043
>>384678017
Basically this, hands down best non-boss enemy in the series. The fact that it was the mighty Lynel's first entry into the 3D part of the franchise is a nice bonus. Glad they lived up the hype.

Next game better have pic related
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>>384681483
Dragon fights are never good, especially hydra fights
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>>384676946
This

Guardians look cool, but Lynels are much more fun to fight
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>>384676826
Poes are more fun to fight desu
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>>384677110
Why would that matter at all?
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>>384683375
Not him but I hate it when magic is used to explain how something works. Would very much prefer a mechanical explaination
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>The sword trials on master mode
>everything is going well, slowly killing each enemy separate
>that fucking lizalfos level on the pier were they spot you as soon as you spawn

Fuck this game mode.
I really did not like the idea of the health recovery on enemies being so unbalanced. i mean you cna litwrally waste all your weapons on a silver enemy and they kust recover it, and bomb infinite loop does not hurt them enough, and if you're one secon off, they recoer the health they just lost because of the bomb.

Fuck that, i really didn't like this choice. The level upgrade of enemies is good and all and I wouldn't mind them being more agressive or do more damage, but the fucking unbalance of the health restoration is pure bullshit.
They could just makr it to recover 3/4 of the damage taken if not hit after a whilw and that would be just fine
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>>384683997
>he hasnt learn how to chain backstabs
Git gud
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>>384680347
I seriously expected these guys to be back in BotW, given how many shit tons of Zelda 1 references it has. Probably my 2nd biggest disappointment with the game is that they didn't return.

biggest disappointment being shrines + divine beasts replacing real dungeons
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>>384684410
>chain backstabs
Elaborate
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>>384684673
Do you like the traditional puzzles better or is it just the length and theme of the beasts that bother you? I'm curious, because I cannot imagine going back to the traditional puzzles
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>>384683997

fuck even the normal mode final trials. I keep getting one-shotted when the cold areas start. got so frustrated on my last run that I blew myself the fuck up accidentally in the rest area.
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>>384684767
Same. The old puzzles always felt unengaging to me. Whoope your hookshot hit a button, now pause and wait as you are pulled to your destination. The runes are much more engaging and interesting to use
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>>384684928
>normal mode final trials
>hard
Have you not saved up any ancient arrows? The final trails are ironically easier than the beginner ones
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>>384684767
It's how they split up tons of puzzles and fights into 120 spaced out shrines and 4 slightly larger shrines, instead of splitting them up into 8 or so actual dungeons with different themes and central mechanics. I hope they make a Majora's Mask style sequel to BotW with a smaller overworld and real dungeons.
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>>384685193
Oh so it's the distribution problem. If so I agree. I personally think those puzzles should be the way going forward along with the runes. Just make more next time
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How do I fight lynels? I got the whole rubber armor and electric resistance potion, and he still takes half of my life with just one shot. wtf
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>>384680734
If you've never fought a Darknut in Twilight Princess, then fuck you. People can play TP as high or as low as they want on their quality lists for Zelda, but you are not allowed to hate Darknuts.
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>>384685543
flurry rush
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>>384685543
Get close, don't get hit. Dodge sword attacks, shoot face, mount, kill in 5 seconds with Guardian Weapons + Guardian Armor.
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>try out the game on cemu
>game basically hangs trying to load past the starting cutscene even with a shader cache
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How do I get good at partying guardin beams? I keep deflecting them instead of hitting the fucker with it.
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>>384676826
They're fun to fight. Especially on horseback.
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>>384685976
All reflects should usually hit the fucker, unless you're talking about the flying ones.

Ignore the flying ones or hit it with a Guardian Arrow.
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>>384686089
For some reason mike always go to the far left or right of the Guardian rather than hit him. I tried it about 6 times and broke all my shields practicing.
It doesn't even work with the guardian shield.
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>>384685829
You have an i3 do you? It runs okay even on the i5
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>>384676826
God no, most minibosses are better than guardians.
>lynels
>literally just "spam arrows at his face: the fight"
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>>384678909
Rito village is bland as fuck.

I mean it's a nice cozy mountain town, but it completely lacks any kind of character in the face of the awesome Arabian Nights inspired Gerudo town or Goron City.

Also, did anyone else appreciate how much more Japanese inspired they made the Gorons in this game with the topknots and sumo loincloths?
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>>384686486
i5 6600
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>>384685543
Git gud at dodging their swings and then flurry rush.
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>>384686946
It should be okay. Lower resolution if you must.
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>>384683637
Well, we don't exactly know how they work, the only magic within them that we know of is ganons corruption that turned both them and the divine beasts evil. They are literally ancient conatructs that were unearthed to help us fight ganon, but from my understanding, the energy source is magic based, the rest is pure mechanics(except the beam, which I am not so sure what to think about it)
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>>384686906
that face is nightmare fuel
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>>384676826
I'll just insert my speculations about the DLC here
>will take place after Ganon is defeated
>Zelda and link head off to check the zora divine beast
>turns out it's acting up again for some reason even though there is no malice present
>starts wrecking havoc on zora's domain
>Link has to stop it by some extended attack on van Ruta sequence, and go in together with Sidon
>disable the beast completely after a new boss fight
>rinse and repeat for other 3
>new dungeon is a hyrule-castle style dungeon containing the resurrected body of ganondorf
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>>384688201
>no reviving the champions
Why u do dis?'(though that sound cool as heck, but I don't see how that fits in with "The champions Balad")
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>>384686032
>Hinoxâ„¢
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>>384680347
Any enemy with similar movement and attacks as Link was cool. Dark link fight was cool, obviously lame now but I always enjoyed fighting an enemy was was sort of on par with you.
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>>384676826
>stand still, deflect laser, win
>good design
>>384676946
>damage sponge
>good design
The Lizfos are the best designed enemies.
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>>384676826
What's your favourite shrine and why is it blue flame
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>>384692230
That's not constellation shrine though. Or the twin peaks one
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>>384688750
Why should the champions be revived? They have already said their farewells, bringing them back will soil that moment
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>>384692230
I liked the electric ones the most.
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>>384693029
This. The champions should stay dead. More memories are okay but just stay dead
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to tell the truth\
how was this

it's first time to post
im japanese
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>>384694128

how was what? The game or the guardians?

Both are good.
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>>384676826
How useful are elixers?
>>384694128
Stop role playing faggot
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>>384692230
ice cube one. It's fucking fun.
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im glad to hear your opinion
i love guardiands too
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>>384694381
Elixers are useful on master mode as the damage boost is needed. Not so much on normal mode as it's already easy
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>>384686906
they started with that in Twilight Princess.
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Is the lack of proper overworld music the greatest design mistake a Zelda has ever made. It really hurts the immersion.

I could understand them expecting it to be repetitive, but ambiance and nature sounds isn't as atmospheric as they seem to believe it is
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>>384678887
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>>384694763
sorry but i love nintendo
i want to join discussion
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>>384694930
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
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Would Prof. Layton enjoy breath of the wild
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>>384677110
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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>>384694917
>having no blasting music on in a quiet forest is breaking immersion
Lol?

That said I would not mind more atmospheric tracks like lost forest
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>>384694917
I wouldn't say it was the wosrt thing they could do but it was odd. Especially since so much of the game's music is really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6fPF2EcDKQ
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Is that jap guy for real

Anyway if so my man why aren't you playing Splatoon 2 now? I thought Japan has a blood oath to do that

>>384676946
You're right. Lynels are perfect
>noble as fuck, stare down at you while you skirt around it
>honourable, won't attack until you show yourself as a threat
>perfect design
>drops the best weapons
>threatening both on foot and on a horse
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>>384695465
I never said the music had to be blasting but music like these would be perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSg0skswqM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1TUU9UDclA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0cT46KfXbY
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>>384695487
I barely remember any of the music. Especially compared to other Zelda games
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>>384680347
>>384684673
The issue is that when you make a game where even the simplest enemy is smart enough to kick your bombs back at you, a Darknut completely loses its niché. If its AI is superior to any other enemy's, that just makes you question why they didn't make all the enemies this smart. And if it's not, why bother? Bokoblins, Moblins and Lizalfos already use conventional weaponry.
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>>384677043
Maybe if it didn't take so fucking long to kill them. You can memorize their attack patterns perfectly before they're even half dead, and then you break half of your weapon inventory over their head
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>>384695307
THIS NIGGA KNOWS.
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>>384676826
>parry
>parry
>parry
>parry

>>384677043
>dodge
>flurry rush
>dodge
>flurry rush
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>>384695725
Zelda's always had bland, forgettable music.

>>384695843
They don't have any patterns. Just fought one who, despite me being next to him, suddenly pulled out a bow, ran away and shot my equipment away.
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>>384695942
>Zelda's always had bland, forgettable music.
see
>>384695675
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>>384695942
>They don't have any patterns
I mean you can learn their telegraphs and dodge or block their attacks
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>>384695942
>Zelda's always had bland, forgettable music.
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>>384680347
I wish Botw had them, I was hoping Master Mode would bring them. Still got the Holiday DLC to hope towards
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>>384695907

>parry

Yeah try that on Master mode where they actually fake you out. Besides there are other ways that are just as effective.
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>>384685543
Get a claymore.
Shoot it in the face.
Spin to win.
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>>384696002
>>384696075
They do, for every memorable track there are 10 bad ones. You can't name 4 dungeons with good music in Twilight Princess, or Wind Waker, or Skyward Sword.

>>384696060
Have you ever beaten them without cheesing it like that? It's an amazing feeling.
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>>384695907
Literally this
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>>384696231
>Have you ever beaten them without cheesing it like that? It's an amazing feeling.
How is parrying and dodging cheesing?
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>>384695725
memorable =/= good. Besides I disagree, I think plenty of the tracks are memorable. Like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ4oW8K8MI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHp2OFTaZ3o
>>384695942
>Zelda's always had bland, forgettable music.
wew lad
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>>384695907
>dark souls
>dodge like dodge poke
>implying you can parry guardians reliably now
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>>384696231
>They do
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>>384696231
You're singling out the one weak point in Zelda OSTs, which admittedly stopped doing good dungeon music after OoT, but everything else has remained solid.
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>>384694491
This. Ice cube shrine was fun
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>>384676826
Guardians really are an awesome design. I like how they took the inspiration of classic Octorocks and still made it unique and original. I have only one complaint, and it's the same complaint that everyone else have shared already before; the guardians need to have close range attacks by using it's legs as weapons.

>>384676946
>>384677043
It's truly was a treat that Nintendo brought them back and made them so bad ass.
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>>384696231
So, you used the word, "always," then named only games made since 2003?
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>>384679423
It may have, yet it feels empty because there are no houses except for two shops. And pretty much just people. Imagine Gerudo town being filled with just people and some decoration.

Eh. Gives no comfort at all. I liked that Zora town in Majora's mask because it felt like going through a huge ass hotel.
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>>384695816
Not that anon, but most of the enemies have significant windup on their attacks and whatnot.
An enemy that can recognise your attack patterns would do a lot for the game.

Also, I have to wonder why Nintendo didn't give the Yiga clan higher tiers of enemies, since they are supposed to be followers of Ganon. You know, wearing blue, black or white coats as they become more skilled / accrue better armour.
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>>384696481
Not him but Divine beasts have pretty good music. Atmospheric and changes as you progress. Not memorable though

The attack sequences have memorable, great music though
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>>384696312
>How is spamming the same move over and over cheesing?

Son...

>>384696481
Too bad dungeons make up like 80% of the games, huh?

BOTW is the exact same shit, if you find a good song it only exists for like a minigame or something. Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vwWFYy9UA0

>>384696612
You didn't exist before that. In those days they were still lacking compared to contemporary soundtracks, like mega man and castlevania.
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>>384696210
Wait, so that fake out shit in master mode was intensional? I though I just fucked up the game somehow and caused a weird lag glitch with them.
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>>384696727
>Son...
They're the only two defensive moves Link has
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>>384696727
>Too bad dungeons make up like 80% of the games, huh?

Not even close, ironically, in the games since OoT, exploration and story have taken a much larger role in the series and have given us far better music
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>>384696727
First off, I'm old enough to remember the hype around Link to the Past when it was in production.

Second, I might concede Mega Man having more memorable music than the Zelda games of the same era, but that's moving the goal posts. Being not as memorable as Mega Man isn't being bland or forgettable, it's being not as memorable as just abut the catchiest video game music ever made.

That's like if you tell someone hand jobs suck, and they say nuh uh, and you say blow jobs are better. They never said otherwise.
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>>384691079
>deflecting
deflecting means to hit away
you need to reflect the laser to win 3 times which requires good timing with shield parries or an Ancient Shield
also that's not the only way to kill them which makes the design better, since you can also cut off their legs or ride your horse into them or fire arrows at their 'eye'
Lizalfos are really great though
Golden Lynels are fucking shit like most Golden enemies because they take too long to kill
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>>384696727
>Too bad dungeons make up like 80% of the games, huh?
Not even close, and you seem to forget every dungeon has a boss fight with a memorable track.

Does anyone have that little Jaw's like jingle that plays right before you fight the Blights by any chance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J21hyL_92Ew
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>>384696641
I wondered about that too with the Yiga clan. But the way I see it is that they're not actually followers of Ganon, but a doomsday cult that wished to have Ganon destroy everything. Monsters, Guardians and Ganon himself would still killed them if they were not distracted with their priority of killing Link.

That's why they don't have the traditional monster teirs
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>>384676826
>spreading legs
>revealing its deep inside
why am i
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>>384696210
Actually it makes sense, I thought it was just me getting out of touch with BoTW's parry system. Nonetheless it only takes a couple tries to get used to it.
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>>384680347
Dudes with armor is fucking overdone to death though. Sure its cool that they have a second phase but the concept is otherwise overdone.
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>>384696884
>>384697183
MM is like 90% dungeon. WW is like 60% the same fucking ocean theme. Have you even played them?

>>384697023
I can name 20-30 NES games with more memorable music than Zelda, and 60-70 on the SNES. Bucky O' Hare kicks Zelda's fucking ass in that department, and even games people hate now like TMNT has the far superior music.

That's a problem honestly, because Galaxy 1 and 2 showed how much a good soundtrack can improve the experience. Or more closely related, Xenoblade Chronicles. BOTW is just lucky that it totally hold sup regardless.
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>>384697389

>MM is like 90% dungeon
>Game with the least dungeons is 90% dungeons

>WW is like 60% the same fucking ocean theme
Which is one of the best songs in the series as well as many of the island themes. Thanks for making my argument for me.
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>>384697389
>MM is like 90% dungeon.

I don't believe that you've actually played Majora's Mask.
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>>384697389
>MM is like 90% dungeon. WW is like 60% the same fucking ocean theme. Have you even played them?
Yes I have, and you neglected to address my point that I have also made
>every dungeon has a boss fight with a memorable track.
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I want to play this so bad but I just can't justify buying a switch when it somehow manages to have less worthwhile content available than ps4

fuck
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>>384697537
>the WW ocena theme
>one of the best in the series

>WW was my first game: the post
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>>384697537
What, so that's why you think it's memorable? Because it's the only song playing for about 30 hours? Music has become a frocefed habit, it's pathetic.
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If we are gonna have Wind Waker's crawfish outfit, we can at least have pic related.
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>>384676826
aren't there like 3 enemy types in that game? and at least 2 of them are ugly af.
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>>384697789
>>384697760

It's memorable because it's a good song. They clearly went out of their way to make it one of the best themes in the series because of how much the player would be hearing it
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WW had bretty good songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlF0-Qs2xkI
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>>384698026
>best themes in the series
It's a good song but lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mnPPOgf000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F9ww-VoZF8
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What's the DLC like? Is it all out or is there more coming?
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>>384698220
>One of the best
>One of

Posting other good music doesn't disprove my point
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>>384698304
I realize you said one of, but it doesn't even come close to thee quality of a good majority of the themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzbWrGr_of0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZLUIYxfY-o
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>>384698521
>Termina field

That one's not even original
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>>384698603
Being original or not doesn't disprove my point. I'm not saying it's a bad song, it just falls pretty average compared to a bunch of the other overworld themes.
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>>384698708
>>384698708
>Being original or not doesn't disprove my point.

Remixing a beloved theme doesn't leave the impression of something entirely original. Termina is one of the weaker renditions of the main Zelda theme anyway

>it just falls pretty average compared to a bunch of the other overworld themes.

I'd rank WW's Ocean above any overworld theme besides the core Zelda theme and Spirit Tracks
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>>384676826
Honestly I would like to see Zelda go full edge somewhere in the distant future. Have it be an actual bloody wat between ganondorf and the hyrule forces. And not musuo too.
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>>384698818
>Remixing a beloved theme doesn't leave the impression of something entirely original.
Like I said, it doesn't disprove my point. It's still higher quality than WW ocean theme.

>Termina is one of the weaker renditions of the main Zelda theme anyway
Wrong.

>I'd rank WW's Ocean above any overworld theme besides the core Zelda theme and Spirit Track
That's because you have mediocre taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOb0CcSA04c
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>>384698249
The DLC comes in 2 parts, but you can only buy them together for 20 bucks. The first is released, the sword trials are pretty good but master mode is meh besides some pretty large changes to how to approach combat

Second DLC has a dungeon, a new story as a sequel and some additional challenges whatever the hell it means. I expect new armour as well
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>>384699030
I never considered Dark World an overworld theme, but that's the only other one I'd concede.

>Wrong.

No, it's a sore remind of how limited the N64's audio was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u4NNOwh2lI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNsJdnpTX-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_KDxlQj-08
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>>384699278
>I never considered Dark World an overworld theme
Why? It's literally an overworld.

>Those first too
Those are one of the blandest renditions of the classic theme and don't even come close to MM. Those are great examples of what I mean when I say WW isn't bad, because it's better than those two. Great choice on the third one though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7plKQ4T0980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbROTdOgj0
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>>384680347
The big guy Yigas fill their role.
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>>384699645
>Why? It's literally an overworld.

It's an underworld introduced later in the game. I think of the overworld theme as the first thing you here when you step into the game's main field.

>Those are one of the blandest renditions of the classic theme and don't even come close to MM.

What. They all sound grand and triumphant. Termina Field sounds like someone playing around randomly on a synthesizer.
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>>384700050
>get through hideout and kill boss
>now they start showing up in the wilds
>"ha, now I can take them out without the instant kill story damage boost on their side!"
>get hit
>lose like 14 hearts
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I've been playing a no teleport run for the past week and it's been nice. It's cool to plan out your routes to loop back to a stable or to your horse. I'm at 50 shrines done so far.
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>>384700149
For someone that was complaining about originiality earlier, it's funny how you like the two that are just Zelda's 1 theme with different instruments. Even Zelda 2 did something different. Listen again to Minish Cap and AlltP and you will even notice there are less differences between those two.

>Termina Field sounds like someone playing around randomly on a synthesizer.
So this is the kind of person I'm arguing with.
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>>384700574
>For someone that was complaining about originiality earlier, it's funny how you like the two that are just Zelda's 1 theme with different instruments

Because the topic changed. I really like the Zelda theme but I prefer games have original overworld themes, but now we're talking about what the Zelda theme should sound like. The themes sound similar because they best capture the essence of the Zelda theme

>So this is the kind of person I'm arguing with.

You're not making an argument here. Tell me what makes Termina Field good to listen to
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>>384700521
That's what you get for not wearing armor.
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>>384694930
Yeah, I hate that they couldn't just have something like a circlet that has the same design as the armor so we can actually see his face.
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>>384697849
Anybody else disappointed with the special effects of the armor? It's bad enough that you can't upgrade their defense rating, but they're just useless because the normal stuff in the vanilla game can do the same things. The only good one is the Korok mask. Might as was well sell the rest off like the Switch T-shirt.
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>>384701253
>sell clothes
Ow the edge
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>>384700845
>Because the topic changed.
Not for me. I only ever argued on the quality of Zelda overworlds in relation to WW.
>, but now we're talking about what the Zelda theme should sound like.
No I'm still only talking about the quality.

>Tell me what makes Termina Field good to listen to
For starters it has the same heroic memorable tune that everyone loves, but put in a more subdued fashion which is a departure from the more "grand and triumphant' as you like to put it as MM is inherently more somber. It has a great opening that both sounds pleasing and unique, but is also a tad bizarre which fits into what MM is supposed to be. Later into the song it even has a completely different and darker beat that contrasts with the main tune without clashing in the slightest.
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>start master mode
>go to hyrule castle and it's surroundings with minimal hearts
>find a mighty lynel bow on a 70 hp bokoblin and a 42 damage spear in one of those chests
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>yfw upcoming dlc will just have MORE Recolored enemies rather than completely new ones
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>>384680347
fighting these is more like a puzzle than a battle, they don't fit with botw's "you can do anything" combat style.
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>>384701638
This non linear approach to Zelda is pretty sweat.

>>384701656
>What's next? Platinum enemies after Gold?
Now that Calamity Ganon is gone, the Guardians are probably inactive or just not hostile anymore. Nintendo will either need to make another corrupting evil to be able to reuse the assets and models or they WILL make some new enemies to fill the void.

>>384701351
Explain to me how you want duplicate items that can't be improved?
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>>384702159
>Now that Calamity Ganon is gone, the Guardians are probably inactive or just not hostile anymore. Nintendo will either need to make another corrupting evil to be able to reuse the assets and models or they WILL make some new enemies to fill the void.
interesting idea, maybe this could mean the Yiga will grow stronger and become the main threat in the dlc/post-game?
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Playing this in handheld mode while lit in bed
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>>384701581
>put in a more subdued fashion which is a departure from the more "grand and triumphant' as you like to put it as MM is inherently more somber.

But the song isn't somber, it's boring. It fails to evoke any sort of emotion in the player.

It's ironic that you were the one who first brought it up, but the Dark World theme, as well as the Mountain and Forest theme, are examples of themes that do this correctly. The songs aren't upbeat but there's still a dark intensity to them that keep the player engaged. Termina Field doesn't do this.
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>>384695843
>takes long

Ancient proficiency with attack food, stasis/head shots and a 75 damage ancient axe destroys these things
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>>384702531
>But the song isn't somber, it's boring. It fails to evoke any sort of emotion in the player.
You are completely right, it's not somber, it's subdued like I just said. It's also more musically diverse then the other two as well as still being the same theme so I fail how to see it is 'boring'. As for evoking any emotion on that player well that's completely on you. I felt emotion from it.

I can't really convince you objectively since music is always on subjective taste, so I'll just repeat my previous statement. You just have mediocre taste.
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Months later and I still can't get parrying or dodging down reliably.
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>>384703687
cook up some food and try to parry shit 10/10 times until you get it down.
infinite bags and instant eating makes practice easy.
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>>384692230
Because Blue flame features combat AND puzzles. PUZZLES, not just one or two, but something like EIGHT of them. It an honest to goodness mini dungeon. I think there is a similar one i gerudo with electricity and one in Hebra but thats it
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Guardians are garbage, they have 1 attack.
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>>384705757
>how do I get in
That fucker took me way too long.
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>>384695907
More like
>arrow to neck
>mount
>slash 5 times with strongest weapon so there's no durability lowering

It takes longer and uses up arrows but hey you can get a fuckton of the best weapons and save on the durability
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>>384705953

Was that the "my granddaddy saw a birdie" one?

Fuck that one. There was NOT a goddamn bird in those mountains.
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>>384706445
It was the shrine that has a massive crack in the wall thet allowed you to see it, but the actual entrance was somewhere else.
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>>384700521
Upgrade your amor are git gud with the dodging and parry.
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>>384686906
I did Gerudo town first so all other towns were a disappointment to me.
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That last Sword Trial was pretty exciting on master mode.
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>>384706445
The snow plains you need to go to when viewed from the top of the tree she mentioned look like a bird
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>>384708171
>That .gif
God I want some actual romance. Both in the Zelda games and for me IRL ;_;
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>>384708837
It would be a shame if the romance monopoly was owned by certain somebody.
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>>384678572
Very good market place with a wide variety things. Still disappointed that after saving everyone, you're not given like a "Gerudo Membership Card" so that you don't have to cross dress after that. It was a nice quest gimmick, but now it's annoying.

By the way did everyone did the Trial of the Sword and notice that it might have cause all the shops to restock all their arrows again?
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>>384709687
>It was a nice quest gimmick, but now it's annoying.
The Law is the law.
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>>384710093
>Gerudo
>Lawful
Pic related is your new home dirty thief.
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>>384709687
Was link just that short or were the dogs and wolves just that big in botw
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>>384710484

What PS1 game is that anon?
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>>384711386
Link is the shortest character in the game with the exception of young children. I haven't run across anyone who is slightly shorter than Link, and not even girls. Maybe carrying all those heaving weapons and gear from a young age has stunted his bone development.
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Fukken right.
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How would you fix Zelda villains?
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>>384712502
Make some of them redeemable and not evil incarnate. Give them a backstory where the audience can sympathize with them. Nintendo tried to do it in Wind Waker with Ganondorf, but half-assed it.
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>>384712363
Put the down the bomb Mr Link.
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>>384712962
>A Link Between Worlds
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>>384713469
Hilda was a puppet that was being manipulated by that Yuga guy, and wasn't trying to think about the consequences. Byrne knew exactly what he was doing.
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>>384713386
Shame I don't have the money to pirate games anymore.
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>>384713789
You always have the money to pirate games bootleg anon :^)
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>>384712962
>Nintendo tried to do it in Wind Waker with Ganondorf, but half-assed it.

I wouldn't say they half-assed it, but they failed to see it through. Every Zelda game up to Wind Waker made Ganon a more interesting character than the one before it, but then he started to regress in TP and now he's just a generic force of evil that's the reincarnation of another bad guy nobody cares about
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>>384712962
Groose?
Big Boss Yiga? (forgot name)
Zant kind of redeemed himself, not resurrecting Ganondorf.
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>>384713965
>>384713965
>Groose?

Never a villain

>Big Boss Yiga? (forgot name)

Kohga. He was comic relief

>Zant kind of redeemed himself, not resurrecting Ganondorf.

What?
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>>384714049
>Never a villain
Bullies are villains!!1
>What
Zant and Ganon made a pact, Zant even said that he would be resurrected as long as Ganon was around. Since Ganon didn't resurrect him and lost to Link, Zant could have resurrected Dorf but chose not to, killing them both.
It's Japanese mysticism, "bunshin" iirc.
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>>384676826
>best designed enemies
>can be beat with a pot lid
yeah no
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>>384714190
>Zant could have resurrected Dorf but chose not to, killing them both.

What? Zant was dead. Ho could he revive Ganon
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>>384713789
>don't have the money to get something for free anymore
Really made me t-hunk.
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>>384714281
Have you forgotten the cutscene? Zant cuts his own neck. They were linked, and could resurrect one another.
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>See that rock over there? It's a Korok
>See that wall over there? That's a Korok too.
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>>384715473
I thought that was just the game being edgy again
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>>384715559
>the game being edgy again
TP was edgy?
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>>384715775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKddLtjpUo
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>>384714298
Emulators need a whole lot more power than they should be using.
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>Beat game
>All I find now are Silver damage sponges

Goodie.
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>>384715912
You do realise cemu is still a work-in-progress right?
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>>384698114
Wind Waker has the best Zelda soundtrack

The credits theme is downright beautiful

https://youtu.be/QhdiYWCQVqg
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>>384716356
Wind Waker's music is phenomenal, but I can't put it higher than second best

Link to the Past's soundtrack spawned a good majority of the iconic themes that that series still reuses today. It has to be number one
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>>384715508
>Western "gaming" "journalists" talk about how much they've played the game.
>Say they've found less than 150 korok seeds.
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>>384716761
I got all 120 shrines and only found a little over a hundred. I'm not good at spotting shit like that.
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>>384715859
That's more bizarre than edgy.
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>>384716012
All 3D emulators do that. Besides, CEMU is a patreon product. It's in endless development.
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Real way to play the game.
>Turn off all indicators maps etc.
>No missions on minimap
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>>384688201
not Breath of the Wild: Afterstory

where you can play as both zelda and link and they actually fill the empty world with adventure and interesting NPCs outside of towns while you get to see the flowering of a vanilla relationship between zelda and link as they travel together helping the kingdom recover through heroic acts of kindness
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>>384680224
this this this

Fuck, it doesn't even feel like a real Zelda game.
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Guardians are cool I just wish they had more movement to them and showed up more often early game.
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>>384706606
you mean the one in hebra near the hotspring?
the real entrance blends in way too well making it real fucking annoying to find
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Where do I find gold lynels in master mode? I tried the coliseum but it's like a true 1 lynel
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>>384676826
More like best designed enemies in any video games ever.
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>>384720231
it would be cool if they had more than one attack
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>>384720231
Are there more Guardians wandering around in master mode?
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What are some missed chances nintendo had with this game in your opinion?

>Ganon turning into a Lynel
>Alternative dungeons
>More "test of strenght" shrines.
>Better designed enemy campaments (so stealth has some use at least)
>Boss rush dungeon (no healing items)
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>>384685543
Shoot I use stasis then aim for the chin to stun. You can't mount it yet. Wait for it to get up then shoot the chin ASAP after the head shake. Equip your highest damping weapon then backstab while mounting.

So

Stasis>shoot chin>stunned>gets up>shakes head>shoot chin>lynel circles around>repeat process

If you upgraded your status rune, it should be available to use again after the mount.
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>>384721038
tests of strength are the cheapest shrines
>the only test is proper positioning and a check on your ability to press "jump" at the right time
>can get 40+ damage weapons for no effort whatsoever
>the guardians respawn so you can pop in every once in a while for a new set of 3 weapons
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Who here /can'tmoveonwithtimes/ ?

I can't get over
>no permanent sword that gets upgraded over time
>no permanent shield that gets upgraded over time
>jumping, running, climbing etc. being innate skills instead of finding an item to enable you to do it
>a dedicated jump button
>combat mechanics
>no dungeons
>controls are funky
>no items like the hookshot, eye of truth, fire rod, boomerang etc
>no heart pieces
>no tunics
>no rupees
>no hearts
>food
>no overworld theme, no themes at all

this game is obviously designed for the nugamers instead of dedicated zelda fans.
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This game spooks me sometimes.
The endless chasm tower as an example.

Or the highest parts in the western mountains.
Bonus points when a dragon and other sub bosses pop up around you.
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>>384721915
Nostalgiafags are more assblasted by this more than sonyfags
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>>384685651

Darknuts are my niggas
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>>384721915
I feel the same. It's a Zelda game made for modern gamers and it shows.
>>384722235
Hey, you dumbasses are finally realizing we're not Sony fan boys. Took you long enough.
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>>384722428
>we
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>>384721915
>no items like [LENS] of truth, fire rod, boomerang
all 3 exist in the game.
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>>384722204
Good. Every Zelda game needs something that can give little kids nightmares. It builds character.
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>>384685651
I don't remember anything about TP Darknuts so they probably weren't any good.
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>>384722981
Miniboss in Temple of Time. First challenging enemy.
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>>384721915
>jumping, running, climbing etc. being innate skills instead of finding an item to enable you to do it
>a dedicated jump button

Anon these will never bad thing. Needing an item to do basic stuff is silly.
>no items like the hookshot, eye of truth, fire rod, boomerang etc
Rods and boomerangs are around. Heck the sensor is like the eye of truth in a way too.
>no tunics
>no rupees
>no hearts
>food
I can't tell if this is genuine or bait at this point.
Spirit orb are more or less heart pieces.
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>>384720073
It's more akin to the original Legend of Zelda than any other of the games. Everything after the NES were linear adventures.
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>>384721038
Ganondorf riding a lynel with a giant trident
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>>384686570
i just statis his ass, hit once to interrupt whatever attack he was doing, then spin up a heavy 2h when he's about to break stasis
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>>384686327
You have to shield bash the beam right before it hits you. It's not enough to just hold up the shield.
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>>384708171
wait WHAT WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN SOURCE NOW?
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>>384712962
Ganondorf will always be like that. He's literally the Demise incarnate, meaning he is the evil that will always plague hyrule forever.

All Zelda villains are like that. Well, except the ones who help or are the puppet at the end. Zant is without a doubt a good villain. Also, Ghirahim had character AF. Some gay flirty guy.
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>>384726269
>He hasn't seen the new sneak peek of dlc2
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>>384713964
More like
>Do you always have to stick your green dick in me, you pedophile?
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>>384697718

Just play it on PC. I play almost every day.
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>>384721038
More dungeons.
More interactivity with the characters. You make characters so likable, and then make em say the same things again and again. Nintendo please innovate like usual, and change that.

Music, for god sake, sorry Aonuma a piano isnt enough. I wanna feel like a goddamn hero.

Most importantly, the story.Story was more like, if you want it you can have it. I didnt like that. Nintendo, you had an excellent story on your hands, but you split a treasure of a movie into collectible cutscenes.
I get it Zelda team, you're first open world, yeah just let them collect the story when they enter the area, if they want it. Naa, I hated that. I'd rather it be real.The 4 guardians were amazing, I need more.
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>>384697718
The switch only needs MK8D and Zelda to be more worthwhile than the ps4
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>>384701253
Majora's Mask was still epic. Thanks to zelda team for keeping its epicness.

All the monsters are scared of it. It literally makes all the masks obselete.
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>>384726643
is CEMU running smoother now? I remember all the issues before so I didn't bother but once my Noctura finally gets here and I can OC a bit more Im thinking of trying it out.
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>>384708171
Has anyone got the source for this?
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>>384708171
Source?
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>>384721915
>this game is obviously designed for the nugamers instead of dedicated zelda fans.

Nintendo can't really win no matter what they do.
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>>384727465
It's getting better. Still crashes constantly though.
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>>384721915
kill yourself nostalgia cuck
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>>384677674
It starts looking a lot better when you realize its damage multiplier stacks with other multipliers.
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Debate this
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>>384708171
god I wish that was me
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>>384688201
Nah I'd put my money on it being a prequel,the final fight will be Link fighting an infinate amount of Guardians until his health finally runs out
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>>384730165
Get fucked with that utter fucking horseshit. Who made that?
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>>384730349
Your mom
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>>384708171
backward google image search brings nothing. Where the hell is this from?
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>>384698964
Did you even play BOTW? What the hell did you think happened >10,000 yrs after last Zelda. All out war between ganon and hyrule forces resulting in Hyrule forces being completely wiped out. Alamo-like last stands at the plateau, fort hateno, and akkala tower.
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>>384691079

>The Lizfos are the best designed enemies.

Anything that isn't killed in 30 seconds is a damage sponge? Yes it's not technically a boss, but Lynels are pretty much a fucking boss. There are already cheesy ways to kill them in less than 10 seconds. They only take 3-5 minutes to kill on average. It would be no fun to kill them that quickly. They also drop up to like 40 elemental arrows, along with their 3x or 5 x 30 bows and their melee weapons, so you can profit off them easily.

Lizalfos are extremely flawed. They flinch more easily than even Bokoblins do, so you can easily combo them to death. Spears obliterate them. They just run up to you, do some extremely long telegraphed attack that doesn't need to be dodged or parried, you can attack them and just interrupt them. They're fast yet have the slowest attacks. And their tongue hardly does any damage later on.
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>>384678909
>>384678909

Are you joking? The music is top-tier, and the location is cool, but it's such a barebones, boring as fuck town.
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>>384676826

Beamos-kin
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>>384731097
>>384731719
Is this included in the dlc?
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>>384731719
holy guacaMOLE
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>>384729805
I think 3 atk up is +50%
Ancient Weapon Proficiency is +80%
Sneak attack is *8
So a sneak attack while banana-buffed with 60 attack Ancient Battle Axe ++ would hit for 1296 damage
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>>384731097
>>384731719
god does exist
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>>384731719
Source?
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>>384731097
>>384731719
>>384708171


All this porn and no source? Where the hell do you guys find this shit?
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>>384696210

It doesn't make thst much of a difference. When they fake you out you have enough time to realize it and do a side jump to dodge the laser. Also shoot an arrow at their body to prevent them from healing too much.
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>>384708171
I wish I was a princess and a gallant knight would rescue me.
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>>384681483
I was mad when there weren't any more minibosses. At least two more could have been great, or a unique boss based on the region or terrain.
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>>384680937
they are minibosses though
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>>384696210
>Yeah try that on Master mode where they actually fake you out
so enemy attack patterns DO change on master mode. fuck my life, I need to see a rundown of every detailed changed that it makes before I buy it
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>>384734803

>spoiling yourself

i bet you read a guide before playing a game too
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>>384679313
>Not that pointless tropical village or tarrey town
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>>384734863
no you stupid dumbass, a defficulty mode is not "spoiling"

I've played the game front to back. I just want to know if it does anything other than bump up enemies health meters because that sounds like a waste of my time
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>>384734105
Sabrinathebunny. Also image search you dummy.
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>>384709038
How do we stop her, bros?
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>>384727419
doesn't Kilton tell you exactly that if you talk to them wearing it?
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>>384685829
If you are still around. its a known bug, you need to update your BotW through Wii U USB Helper.
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>>384735190
holy shit, i gotta try that.
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>be wondering around minding my business
>out of fucking nowhere the air fills with malice and instantly get a blood moon
>at 4AM
???
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>>384736194
It's a glitch.
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>>384676946

>headshot
>spin with two handed weapon
>headshot
>spin with two handed weapon
>headshot
>spin with two handed weapon
>ded

woah.png
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>>384731097
full album?
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How desperate were you to keep Link's hears full?

Pic related.
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>>384677110
>Are guardians powered by magic? That's lame

no you fucking faggot it's never stated in the game, they are made of ancient tech, a bit like the robots in skyward sword, they are magitech at best
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>tfw want to play master mode
>but you are already 40h in normal mode
I dont want to repeat everything again, but I want to play master mode. Fuck.
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>>384695307
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>>384736490
Not so much in the final trial. All the hearty truffles and fairies kept me alive.
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I'm really excited to see Hyrule post-game.
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>>384684673


BotW is thematic though, Bestial baddies were only chosen for the game.
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>>384736825
>40 hours
that's nothing, I'm at 160 and I'm still probably 40 before I'm ready to play through a second time
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>>384737868
Me too. I want to see more about the possible new Champions, especially Sidon and Teba. Hope the four of them get a lot of focus.
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>>384737868
Never thought I'd ask this of a Zelda game but I do want to see more cinematic character interactions for the DLC.
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>>384738073
You dont need to play the entire game once to play master mode. I already did a lot of shit in normal mode, not feeling like starting all over again, anyone knows if there's a save file editor or a way to export your normal mode save file to master mode?
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>>384679840
nice filename reference
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>spend 6 hours searching for the saddle appearing in the memories and trailers
>amiibo exclusive ;^)))))

fucking trash company for fuck sake
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>>384696210

>they fake out

they don't fake out retard, they delay it exactly 1 second, if you parry two times consetutively you will land a perfect parry anyway, artificial difficulty, nothing changed
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>>384737868
WHERE DO YOU GUYS FIND ALL THIS BOTW ART AND PORN?
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>>384739056
There are these magical places called twitter and pixiv
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>>384708171
N-NANI
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>>384701253
Majora's is useful enough even if just for running across the plains at night without tons of skeleton assholes. I would've appreciated new effects for the other armor
>Tingle suit grants Movement speed up during the day instead of redundant move up at night
>Phantom Armor grants 'damage and speed increases as health lowers' or some other risky effect
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>>384685543
You can one-shot them with an ancient arrow, but they don't drop anything if you do it.
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>>384740371
I'm fine with them being the same, if I could just fucking upgrade them
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>>384740371
Tingle suit should use less stamina with the paraglider, and Phantom Armor should have double defense bonus. When I think about it, the Midna Helmet should grant stat bonus to Wolf Link.
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>>384716761
I missed so many seeds because I don't bother finding a missing rock or don't want to spend arrows and durability for some ass shooting gallery. I have 150 seeds and my map is filled with korok stamps I placed for later.
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>>384737868
I'm hungry for some of that food now.
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>people keep saying lone apple trees should have a korok
>find one
>take all the apples
>no koroks pop out
how am i suppose to do this?
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>>384741974
You're not supposed to take all of them out dumb dumb
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>>384741974
The trees must match each other. One tree usually has that one extra apple you must pick. Same for cactus with voltfruit and durane trees
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>>384742301
so how do i get them to appear?
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>>384737868
Same
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will that fag who hired people to fix up your home ever leave your property?
i regret talking to him after the wedding
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what are the gorons hiding
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>>384743296
nope
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>>384676826
I'm so glad the DLC is not a prequel desu. I want to rebuild hyrule
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>>384743591
I agree, but I also want more memories. Prefably playable
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>>384676946
fpbp
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>>384711747
Not him, but Chrono Cross.
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>>384678572
>Tfw I'm a huge fucking faggot for fishing towns and general sea-themed shit in vidya
>Link's Awakening and Wind Waker were my favorite Zeldas
>Black Flag is my favorite AssCreed
>Playing Coolspot on a rented Megadrive is my most vivid childhood vidya memory
>Beach levels are always my favorites
>Mfw finding Lurelin Village 60 or so hours into the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydWbM6IIgs
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Purah may have her adult body back, if we go far enough into the future. Paya won't be happy about Zelda.
Paya will do something stupid to her in jealous rage and Link has to save the day- if we go with anime logic.
Something stupid, like joining the Yiga.
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>>384712962
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>>384744773
>mfw you didn't have to steal the mask from skull kid to get it in BotW
Missed opportunity
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>>384741520
Barbarian is truly the best armour set
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>>384741520
Midna helmet should transform Link into an abomination for merely touching it.
However, the developers are keen on pushing the connection between Shadow folk and Shadow folk. Twili is a retarded name and not used by the Japanese.
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>>384676826
Just got the game

What order should I do the beasts in?
Master mode or normal?
Pro or normal for the hud?
Any other things I should note to make my experience better?
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Is the first DLC pack worth 5-10 bucks? I'm itching for an excuse to play more of the game
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>>384744727
>Some time after Ganon is defeated, Link receives a letter that reads:
>"Help, Master Link! I got really drunk last night and when I came to, I was named the new head of the Yiga Clan!"
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Post your best stories anon
>being chased by a group of bokoblins of horseback when I am on foot
>out of food and good weapons (master mode)
>suddenly the sky darkens and it starts raining
>the bokoblins are unfortunately carrying clubs
>think fuck it, stop running and drop a shitty traveller's sword onto the ground
>lure the bokoblins to the weapon
>it starts sparking
>BOOM
>I survive with half a heart and the manage to finish off the weakened bokoblins with their own weapons

No wrap runs are so damn fun.
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>>384745761
Whatever order your wanderlust brings you to them.
Normal mode (Master Mode is basically bullet sponge: the game: regenerating health edition)
Pro

Don't look anything up, figure shit out by yourself.
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>>384746858
>No wrap runs
nani
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>>384676826
>a walking beamos
>best design
Are you special? Or did you never play Ocarina?
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>>384702159
I really hated how once you beat Ganon, the game just puts you back to the room beforehand.

I wish it had a post-game where Ganon was gone and Hyrule was rebuilding itself
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>>384747160
Beamos looks fucking awful even back then. Guardians look much better
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>>384731097
>>384731719
MUH DICK
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>>384747160
Are you retarded anon. How do they look alike in any way
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>>384676826
It's a beamos with legs
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>>384747181
DLC man. DLC

>>384747145
It's fun as fuck. Makes fights much more tense. Plus you can get everywhwre pretty fast by paragliding so it isn't much of an inconvenience
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>>384747357
Seriously look at this >>384747367
Is there some meme I'm missing.
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>>384747465
ooooh, you mean warp
i'm retarded
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>>384747465
Wait, really? Is the second one actually post-Ganon Hyrule?

I haven't seen any of the trailers for it
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>>384747710
There's one short clip with Zelda visiting the gerudo kid ryuji or whatever her name is. It's totally post ganon, or it makes no sense
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>>384745761
Best beast order is Rito>Zora>Goron>Gerudo
Do a normal mode run first
Pro hud is the best experience
Also for other things to note don't upgrade your armour beyond level 2
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>>384743425
BIG
FAT
ROCK
COCKS
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>>384736194
You haven't truly experienced Breath of the Wild until you get three Blood Moon cutscenes within the span of a few minutes at noon.
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>>384747919
>>384736194
If you leave your console on with the game running for too long (even in sleep mode), the game's clock goes wonky and starts shitting out blood moons whenever, just turn the game off when you're done playing and you should be fine.
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>>384747785
Actually I'm pretty sure it's Urbosa in that clip

But apparently Aonuma said it was post game.
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>>384677110
Guardians are powered by ancient cores, obviously. Maybe they are super compact fusion devices, or just insanely long-lasting battery-like units — it's not explicitly stated in-game.
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>played normal mode once
>got green tunic but was never particularly good at the game
>defeated ganon and that was it
>months later
>buy dlc pass
>start new hero mode file
>haven't even met impa, no divine beasts killed
>at something like 20 hearts from all the shrines I've done
>have master sword
>upgraded the fuck out of my soldier armor
>running into walls because there are shrines I can't complete without doing divine beasts
>suddenly feel like I'm losing motivation to play

How do I get my spark back? I want to 100% hero mode, something I didn't do on normal
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>>384695907
>implying every other game wasn't just slash the shit out of the enemy, sometimes with an extra step before
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>>384749187
You play.
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>>384749346
But those games were never put on a pedestal for having revolutionary gameplay
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>>384747883
I personally went Zora, Goron, Rito, Gerudo. Pretty glad I did Gerudo last considering Yiga Clan show up more after you defeat Kogha
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>>384749606
My first run was Zora, Gerudo, Rito, Goron.
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>>384749460
..you mean like every zelda the moment it comes out?
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>>384748809
There's no way that's Urbosa. The figure on the throne is way too small to be her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqcZ9-LagIU
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>>384750841
Riju wears a golden crown, you'd be able to see it if it were her. The hair looks like Urbosa for sure.

I think it will be post game with Zelda recounting her memories of the champions.
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Asking longtime Zelda fans:

Are all the games this depressing? In BOTW all the champions are dead, and have been for a long time. I've only cleared the Rito village so far (I already miss it, lovely place lovely characters) and I feel bad for the characters. I was hoping that somehow all the champions would come back to life but judging by the blatant replacement champion characters I've found so far (Tebu and Sidon) I think I'm going to get some lame torch passing instead. Tragic, really.
Why does Link have issues explaining his identity? He's not a silent protagonist, so saying "I was in stasis since the Calamity" doesn't seem difficult. What gives?
According to this thread, you can get Majora's Mask in this game. The only LoZ I've ever really been interested in was Majora's Mask (I'll be grabbing a 3DS soon to play it) and I'd love to run around Hyrule wearing it. Where can I get it?
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>>384751301
Majora's Mask is part of the 1st DLC pack, it shows up in a chest somewhere
and Majora's Mask as a game is pretty dark in comparison to OoT, so don't expect too much happiness in that game
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>>384751301
>Are all the games this depressing?
No
>Why does Link have issues explaining his identity?
Most people won't believe him. Only those that have lived 100 years ago, or at least have been told prior to Link's arrival that he was "regenerating", would consider one of the fallen champions are alive.
>Where to find the Majora's Mask
All the DLC helmets and armor can be found in central hyrule province amongst some type of ruins.
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>>384750841
Look at the shoulder guard though. Also the Thunder Helm is still on display even though Link would have it if it was post-game.
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>>384708171
WHO MADE THIS?! IT LOOKS REAL!
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>>384751301
When you buy, then download the first DLC, you'll get a quest notification that'll hint you as to the location of Majora's Mask (among other things).

Zelda games aren't overall depressing but some sidequests or character arcs can get a little sad. Majora's Mask in particular can get into some pretty heavy stuff with the whole "world's ending in just 3 days" shit going on.
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>The Full Power Master Sword has a durability of approximately 188 hits.
I guess you never really need another weapon again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy0SfbrGfZ8
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>>384753142
Think of all the rocks you could break with that
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>>384746353
Sword trials are great and for me it lasted 5 hours or so. It's easily worth 5 bucks even with that alone. I'll say go for it
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>>384751301
>Are all the games this depressing?
the main title games usually are. obviously there are ones that are more conspicuous in their depressing themes, but wind waker, link to the past, etc -- the games that seem normal superficially -- have fucked up themes that are more implicit
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>>384741520
>>384745521
>"Armor once favored by an ancient warlike tribe from the Faron region. The war paint bolsters your fighting spirit and raises your attack power."
I want to know about this tribe.
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>>384754982
Goddamn she's so cute
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>>384754532
>I'm...s-sorry Mas...ter....
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>>384685543
>equip any multihit bow
>revali's gale or climb something, or jump from a horse
>spam arrows in face
>save a bit of stamina so you can mount when you land and spam your highest weapon
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>>384697760
WW was my sixth Zelda. Not the one you're responding to.

But he's right.
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>>384688201
My speculation is that you will play as the four champions, each in a self contained dungeon and area. Each of them already has their own special equipment and ability, so it would be easy to implement..
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MY ONLY FUCKING COMPLAINT IS THE ARMOR/CLOTHES

WHAT THE FUCK WHY NO VARIETY
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>>384757389
Have you thought of just mixing and matching and then dyeing them an appropriate color?
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>>384676946
Lynels can't be the best designed because they're absolutely made to eat through your weapons whenever you Flurry Rush making them unfightable and they're pathetic when you have good weapons to beat them because Flurry Rush is so broken
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>>384757256
It's already confirmed to be a sequel anon. Give it up >>384757389
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>>384757695
>>384757389
Fuck messed up my reply. Anyway I don't understand. The armour all look pretty distinct

>>384757576
>he doesn't realize that mounting takes 0 durability
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>>384678572
Yes, I made the terrible mistake of doing it early because everywhere else PALES in comparison. The Rito Area and Medoh didnt even feel a 1/4 of interesting/enticing as the Rito area.

Goron Town felt padded to fuck and Zora area had a Lynel you couldnt even kill once you scale the mountain which was fucking disappointing.

Gerudo had fucking trap link, awesome difficulty, Gerudo lades, Yiga Hideout, a Cool Yiga boss that should've had more fights like a proper shiekah rival and the best DB Dungeon along with the best music.
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>>384757807
>he doesn't realize that mounting takes 0 durability
By the time I found out, everything was pathetic.

Still a shite system. If mounting takes no durability its a fundamental flaw with the shitty weapon system.

Hell, you need to use a weapon to make the Lynel become mountable even.
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>>384757942
>Zora area had a Lynel you couldnt even kill once you scale the mountain which was fucking disappointing.
What are you talking about? You can fight and beat it handily if you're decently supplied.
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>>384747181
>Beat the game
>Get a nice little start next to your file name
>Can't keep the bow of light as a reward.
You have the Master Sword that is the most powerful weapon once fully upgraded. You have the Hylian Shield that takes forever to break. Why can't we have the ultimate bow?
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>>384758151
I did the Zora area first and I learnt the Lynel's attacks but it went through my weapons faster than I went through its HP. I had to retreat and do the dungeon.

It wasn't a good first impression.

Of course, I got better prepared later, but the damage was already done.

Killing Lynels wasnt satifsying later either, after 2 dungeons combat becomes useless and a waste of resources and time.
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>>384757942
I did Zora area first and had already killed the Lynel near the first memory on the lanayru path before that. That was the second one I found and beat that one too. Sneaking is just an option for all the pussies who aren't good enough to beat a Lynel(like game journalists)
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>>384758201
having a ranged weapon that powerful cheapens the game
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>>384758442
>Already beat the game.
Cheapen it how exactly?
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>>384758352
>who aren't good enough to beat a Lynel
>Who don't waste their time finding weapons with enough durability to defeat it

ftfy

The game doesnt determine victory by skill, but by inventory. And it's a shit system. I could kill my first Lynel if my weapons didn't break but the game told me "No, youre not ready, waste more of your time and find better weapons"

And when I found better weapons, the Lynel fell with ease and all I could say was "Was that it?"

Flurry Rush breaks the battle system. Your victory is determined by the inventory you walk into battle with. And considering the Lynel doesnt drop weapons mid-battle, early game you better have scraped and gathered the strongest shit for that point if you want the thing dead.
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>>384758629
>durability
>when killing lynels
What. You don't even use durability if you're good enough
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>>384752056
Technically Link was supposed to return the helm once his task was complete. Not to mention getting the helm is optional in the first place.
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>>384758943
>You don't even use durability if you're good enough
Educate me.

If youre talking about Mounting, You need to make the Lynel Mountable before you can do that.

And I'm pretty sure you need to use a consumable/durable item in order to even get it to become mountable.
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>>384677110
>complaining about magic in zelda
wew
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>>384757573
yes my dude, and i know it sounds retard BUUUUUT I dye all my armor to compiment green

>>384757807
it looks fine, but the stats are all retarded


Dark Link/Sheikah/Skele
>movement speed bonus at night

Fierce diety/barbarian
>atk up

etc etc etc
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>>384758629
there's free silver and zora weapons everywhere in the area.

Everyone knows you use all your weakest shit on mobs since they'll just drop more weapons and you gradually get a stronger arsenal.

the only way I could see it being impossible when you first encounter it is if you blow all your good weapons on green lizalfos on the way up for no reason or you somehow didn't see the korok guy on your way up to the first village so you only have 5 melee slots

if anything else you can just infinite bomb throw.
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>>384759328
What's wrong with the stats. Doesn't make sense or something?

>>384759059
Yep. Just shoot it once with a bow. Bows have a fuckton of durability so it doesn't matter
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>>384676826
My problem with Guardians is that they are basically unkillable nightmares in the early game and they can easily kill you in a single hit, but once you have ancient arrows they drop in a single hit most of the time. They go from terrifying to free kills by the time you actually need to fight them.
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>>384759458
> Bows have a fuckton of durability so it doesn't matter
Bows require arrows.

Arrows early game are rather scarce.
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>>384759458
holy fucking shit read:
>>384757389
>>384759328


you dumb niggerfaggot
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>>384759582
When do you ever need to kill them
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>>384759695
Not really. Even the path up to the zora domain gives you tons of arrows from all the enemies shooting at you. You also don't need much to stun a lynel to be able to kill it providing that your is good

>>384759696
I still don't get it. Too similar? If so I understand.
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>>384759695
For crying out loud. Just reset the map then you big baby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DHstpqWZf4
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>>384759824
>your is
Your aim is*
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>>384759582
I played through the entire game and also sneaking around them in master mode to get all the DLC games early.

Only after that did I find out you can stasis them, meaning early game you can just run past them and hide easily.
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>>384759695
>Arrows are scarce
>In the one area of the game where there are tons of free fucking arrows everywhere, because that's the entire reason you are there.
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>>384676826
I like the Guardians more than Lynels simply because there are so many ways to exploit them for silly shenanigans. I just wish they had more than one method of attack.
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>>384760359
>no melee guardians
Fuck I wanted dr octopus
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>Forced to stay in shrines
>Tfw no guardian variant that uses swords, spears and shields and also shoots lasers as an attack on the overworld

It isn't fair, bros. They should be enjoying the great outdoors with their giant sized brothers.
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>>384760953
>small guardians never ever meet their big bro
That's kinda sad. Mini guardians also look cooler imo
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>>384760843
I was expecting them to start swinging some legs around if you stayed close for too long. Instead they just sort of shuffle around awkwardly.

>>384760953
It's strange that they never do, they seemed like a perfectly natural compliment to all the other kinds you encounter.
They're even called scouts, so what exactly do they scout?
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>>384760953
Those are personal combat dummies specifically designed for the Ancient Sheikah test for the Legendary Hero. Those weren't meant to combat Calamity Ganon like the normal sized Guardians. It would make sense you never find them outside of their specific shrine that perpetually manufactures them for you.
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>Guardians can't scale walls or steep inclines

I mean I guess technological reasons were why this wasn't made possible, but it still bugs me.
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>>384761507
>The ruins of Hyrule castle town has nothing.
I hate how you have places that have names but nothing there.
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>>384761507
Somehow I hadn't thought about this.
Maybe Ganon's just a shitty pilot.
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>>384761653
A Zelda game of this scale and no hustling bustling Hyrule castle market to explore should be considered a sin against the entire franchise, tb h.
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>>384683997
Get a dragon horn, make an attack elixir before you enter the Trials - it will last for 30 minutes

Also, only hit the Lizalfos three times so they don't get thrown into the water
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>>384757573
HE-MAN!
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>>384761927
>finish the combo
>lizalfos fucking drops into the water
>REGENERATES ALL ITS HEALTH
AAAAAAAA
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>>384761985
wheres the joke?
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>>384676826
I unironically believed for a time while I was playing that you would be able to go inside the Guardians through that opening somehow and manually control them from the inside like the Divine Beasts.
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>>384677674
>>384677957
I wish the helmet didn't copy the Guarudan exactly. It just looks too ugly. What kind of new armor could the 2nd DLC have? I'm torn with either thinking that it's going to be original designs based around the new story, or just more armor inspired from previous Zelda game characters like the current DLC.
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>>384762392
You take on the champion's likeliness (bird, goron, gerudo etc). Not masks though. Maybe just soul power or some shit
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*teleports behind you*
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>>384762479
>You take on the champion's likeliness
I like where this is going.
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>>384762392
I was like a lot of people and didn't like the helm for the Ancient gear at first, but it eventually grew on me and I've learned to love it. I'd have preferred if it looked like the actual head of a Guardian instead of a shrine though, if I had to choose.
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Finally got it today. I'm in love with it so far and I'm not even out of the plateau yet.

But I'm wondering what resolution and framerate you guys are getting on the Switch version. Nothing big but I feel like I'm seeing a few more jaggies than I've seen in videos and a few minor but noticeable framerate drops.
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>>384762524
Why are they so lanky

>>384762780
Have you updated the game? The patch fixes most framerate issues on switch
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>>384762974
It updated before I started playing. Like I said they're pretty minor but they are there.
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>Don't uncover a secret facility where all the Guardians and Divine Beasts were manufactured by the ancient Sheikah

Also how the fuck did Vah Naboris end up in a fucking mountain
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>>384763475
>he hasn't found the guardian factory
LOL
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>>384685829
Buy the game faggot.
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>>384763929
Don't tease me like this anon.
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>>384696210
Legend of Zelda: Rising
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>That NPC on the beach who wants to be with guardians really bad and probably masturbates to the thought of being near one

epic
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>>384763995
anon...
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>>384765043
I thought that place was built to study the guardians, not where they were built 10,000 years ago?
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>>384765043
That's not a factory.
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>>384764415
where's the porn of her fucking one?
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>>384679840
I save scummed for cores.
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>>384765213
e621, I think. I'm not spoonfeeding you any further than that.
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>>384765139
>>384765161
What? It's pretty much like a factory. With crane arms and all that
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>>384766128
no
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>>384766184
Then what is it? It doesn't look like a lab either
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is the lynel in the ice stages the last thing in final trials? I'm wondering if I should save my ancient arrows or not.
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>>384766446
Yes. Save your ancient arrows
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>can't get past even the beginner trials
KILL ME
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>>384766431
A lab.
Like it's called.
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The sword trials are better designed than I thought
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>mfw I forced all the amiibo exclusive shit to my Cemu savefile
Suck it Nintendo. The game suddenly feels much better wearing the classic clothes. Also the TP Zelda bow is pretty and shiny.
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>>384767032
>classic clothes
Gross. Champion's tunic is better
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>>384755993
BEST.
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>>384767224
This. Blue>Green
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>>384693638
Guess so, but I am a sucker for happy stories, and it feels like they are so rare these days, mostly everything feels like sad/bittersweet.
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>>384767491
Disagree. The TP link costume looks better on link
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>>384767224
>>384767491
get out
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>>384768203
No you get out
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>>384767224
>>384767491
Spotted the newfags.
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>>384762392
If we can get TP's sweet looking Magic Armor I gldly accept reference armors
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>>384767491
Yeah, well, if we've learned something from OoT (and later Smash), is that Red>Both, so just stick with your default Hylian Tunic
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>>384768538
why is link such a manlet
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Where can I farm rupees
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>>384676826
>attacking an enemy camp from a hill
>there are blue lizalfos present
>throw a bomb below to catch their attention and deal some damage
>one of the lizalfos notices me
>he climbs up the hill in two fucking seconds and kills me
These fuckers are terrifying
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>>384769372
Mine ore
Fight taluses and guardians
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>>384769372
2 free iron hammers at hateno. Use those to take out 2-3 talos. Sell gems. dosh
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Im surprised I managed to activate slow time around the exact moment lightning crashed
Made a boring fight look much cooler, sad I wasn't in pro mode
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>>384758442
Doesnt a certain savage lynel bow do like 30 x 5 damage?

>>384759582
i played the whole game without using a single ancient arrow. was saving them for late game
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>>384770818
Talos are wrecking my ass tho
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>>384772224
Dude how bad are you? Just block, dodge and Bomb
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LET THE ETERNAL STRUGGLE BEGIN AGAI
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>>384773314
Lynels look so damn cool it's a pity they go down so fast once you flurry rush them
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>>384737868

If you can't Marry Riju then it's useless
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Am I retarded? Because I cannot figure out how to find my way in the lost woods. Someone give me a hit
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>>384773959
Pay attention to the way the particles in the wind blow.
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Has anyone witnessed enemies shield parrying your attacks? It seems to completely random, I gave a silver Bokoblin a hylian shield and used a weak spear and he wouldn't do it.
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>>384774070
There's also an npc in some outpost somewhere (forgot which one) who provides hints.
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>>384774236
Don't think enemies can parry

But imagine if they can flurry rush you lmao
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>>384774301
Holy fuck if BotW had PvP what a mess it would be
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>>384774572
Imagine. People spamming lynel bows and the gameplay being more defensive than fucking dark souls
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>>384676826
Why is akkala region the best region?
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>>384775075
Comfy autumn aesthetic
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>get all the way to bottom floor of final trials
>have that lynel down to his last bit of health
>die
>tfw I went to the bathroom when I got to the last rest area
>forgot not to scare fairies when I came back from taking a shit
>only get two fairies instead of 3
>that one fairy would have meant victory

fucking kill me please, I don't wanna do it again.
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>>384775290
Fairies are as hell to get bruh. Just teleport to the nearest great fairy fountain
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>>384762392
Looks like a fucking jojo stand.
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>>384775553
I think you missed the part where I said I was in the trial of the sword.
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>>384702272
Even if you finish the game your last save will be right in front of the Sanctum, so Ganon will always be here.
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>>384762392
>Dem Links
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>>384705757
>wilson
heh
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>>384776601
the DLC is apparently set after you defeat ganon, though.
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>>384775961
Just leave
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>>384777043
source ? Your arse maybe


It tells the story of the dead Champions because people seemed to like them, that's why they're making amiibos of them too.
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>>384777108
the footage they "leaked" shows Zelda giving something to Riju, which means it has to be after Ganon is defeated.
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>>384777108
>source?
https://youtu.be/Ivv7KV4LWAU

Note that Riju is exactly as she is in the game
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>>384773959
Light your torch at the two flames. Play close attention to the direction the wind blows your flame. Follow it.
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>>384777332
I don't even see Riju damnit
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>>384777046
the home stretch doesn't take that long because you just kill a bunch of guardians with ancient arrows except for the last one.

it would be a waste especially since fighting the first lynel with no cover at all in cold environment was way worse. Takes forever to get down there why would I leave and start over?
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>>384769372
Mining. Far right of the map there's a chain of islands running alongside the coast, you can use the wind tunnels between them to glide up and down. There's ore veins all over them.
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>>384694917
>Is the lack of proper overworld music the greatest design mistake a Zelda has ever made. It really hurts the immersion.

No. No no no no. It's perfect.
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>>384777554
You could try with two fairies. I beat master trials with one
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>>384774070
This took me so fucking long to figure out and I felt so retarded. I'd tried to find a pattern in the trees, in the directions weapons land when you drop them, all sorts of shit. I was sat there thinking 'there must be some way the game is telling me where to go' and I noticed that everything was blowing in the same direction. The trees, the grass, the particles. The game was screaming GO THIS WAY YOU CUNT and I missed it.

Good area, better than OOT lost woods I think.
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>>384777332
>Riju is exactly as she is in the game
yes, exactly like in game, with the gold ornament and the exact same hairstyle
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>>384777667
now I'm starting to think you missed the part where my greentext was in past tense.
I did and I lost, but I would have won if I had the third. This was over and a half ago.
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>>384777983
not sure what point you're trying to make, the fact Riju and Zelda are together seems like strong evidence that this is after Ganon was defeated.
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>>384777985
Fuck sorry anon my english sucks
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>>384701253

I'm 100% sure they tweaked the effects to be literally useless due to backlash of the DLC
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>>384705757

>PRANK'D
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>>384706445
>There was NOT a goddamn bird

are you blind son
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>>384708171

>image quality near game levels
>animation quality near 70s cartoons

you had one fucking job
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>>384713964


SSJ3 Akuma had potential with the dark master sword but of course they had to fucking half hass that too and ruin ganondorf with it
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>>384778139
look at the fucking picture, you can see it's Urbosa's hair there's not even the gold ornaments on them you fucking moron, Aonuma himself said this is about the old Champions, that's even the point of the new amiibo
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