I'm replaying BoF4 and now I remember why I liked Breath

>>384663576
>get to the part where I have to ride a nautilus through a field
>get lost
>drop the game

>>384663576
it wasn't a bad game, and it does look beautiful, but compared to BoF3, it felt like something was missing. It just lacked the emotions & "epic" feelings of a boy, losing his friends and going on a grand adventure to find out his identity. The emotion i got reuniting with Rei, and later on, Teepo was nearly tear-jerkingly strong, nothing compared it in 4. not even what happened to Nina's sister.

>>384663576

The minigames mostly stop after the first chapter.

I prefer BoF4 over 3 but maybe that's because I played 4 first.

joke's on you, 2 is the best

>>384666065
Out of the SNES titles, yes. Overall, it's a middling entry at best.

GREAT TIER
3>4

GOOD TIER
2>1

NOT BOF TIER
5>6

>>384666065
how should i go on to play it? heard the SNES had a translation patch. should I go with the GBA version?

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>love bof3 as a kid
>play it again
>these encounter rates

jesus christ i must have been the most patient child

>>384666670
>bof3
>tfw have to fight in the arena
>really underlevel
>get my ass kicked
>painful to grind levels because I am stuck in the area and can't leave

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>>384663576
I always preferred 3 over 4.

>>384666670

>want to play BoF3 again
>re-release never because some fucktarded nip thinks they own a color scheme

Also these captchas are getting fucking stupidly out of hand.

>>384666740
You just go up in the mountains and fight the tar-men dudes, they give a bunch of exp and if I recall you only need ice. I remember grinding like fucking crazy trying to beat Garr there, until I just gave up on my dream one day.

>>384666670
>play bof3
>try to overcome autism to leave characters at grossly low levels under Masters I want become available
>Ryu is still level 1 by the time Dias is unlocked

>>384666670
This applies to most JRPGs for me now, I couldn't finish BoF4 last year either.
Maybe I'll have more luck playing them on PSP or something, but "actively" playing them on a big screen feels like work

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I liked Dragon Quarter

I finished it the other day, and i can understand why people dont like it, because it's so different, but i still think it was a solid title

I guess people would be butthurt about not being able to transform into a dragon and stuff. I liked the system though, since it really felt like a desperation move (I pretty much used it twice throughout the game to beat some hard bosses, and then pretty much one shot every boss with the dragon form once i reached the final dungeon).

>>384663576
Golden axe series specially 3 I loved the blue tiger in childhood but controls and everything sucked shit and really was unfun but I also played streets of rage 2 and shinobi 3 they were just how I remembered and all of them are sega genesis

>>384665938
BoF4 has Fou-Lu going nuclear, which blows the fuck out anything that happened in 3.
Duality of Ryu and Fou-Lu was great as well as game suddenly going into extreme, unexpected violence.
Yuna is the best antagonist in series too.

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>BoF3 thread
>no autism with 3v4
you're all my niggas. there's was something endearing on 3 compared to 4 in its visuals. completely arguable that 4 has better graphics, but it didn't click on me, maybe the 3D dragons.
I couldn't understand how magic worked, lots of spells skills felt underwhelming as the game progressed.

I enjoy 4 more than 3.
But I prefer 2, all told.

>Tfw want to do a completionist run of BoF4.

What's the best way of doing this? What should my goals be?

>>384666848
>re-release never because some fucktarded nip thinks they own a color scheme
can you elaborate please?

>>384666479
5 was so stupid
i somehow managed to make it to the end but it wasn't fun

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BoF4 always felt much stronger to me simply due to the mix of brutality and seriety in its plot. BoF3 still had that underlining tie to comedy for the most part, where BoF4 left it largely out with the exception of Ershin moments, which even then turned out largely grim.

And whoever says there is no emotionally impactful moments like in BoF3, has clearly not gone through the sections of the game where you literally trash out Ershin and have to go through it taking a beating on its own to defend the city of midgets while helplessly lacking any means to do so as it no longer has the power of a goddess inside of it, and it knows, but still tries until they destroy it.
Bitch fuck Teepo's last second cameo, I saw that coming from the moment I saw spamming Simoon on everyone that lived as a 5 year old.
Watching that oven pot try to fight its way through an army out of simply wanting to help, and failing horribly, almost wrecked me when I thought it would not actually join the party again.

>>384666670
Just use cheat engine or gameshark and set encounters to zero.

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>play BoF3
>reach the point of the onion joining the party member
>moral choice regarding killing its mother for it is a danger to its surroundings and it doesn't want to be
>decide I want it to live, it can just go to the forests or something
>pull the lever I think will save the monster
>it falls into the lava
>oh shit sorry
>reload
>do the whole section again
>pull the other lever
>falls into the lava anyways

I like 3 best because in 4 the dragons stopped looking anything remotely like dragons. I'm here for the dragons, not random magical beasts.

>>384669978
teepo pleasuring himself with the poor ghost!

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3's soundtrack is so fucking good.

does anybody else remember renting games at the video store as a kid?
i rented breath of fire 2 once and the story at the start stayed with me for years while i forgot the name
it wasn't until downloading a snes emulator and roms that i found it again probably 15 years later and could play it for more than the week

>>384669993

I think that's one of the selling points of Bof4. It managed to do so much more with the concept of dragons while still keeping its source concept intact, it made every dragon actually fun to discover.
3 just had... lizards, I can just play about any other RPG ever existing if I want lizards.

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>>384670318
It has so much character. It's one of my favorite soundtracks to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaJxnocad8

>>384669573
>that japanese nazi summoner being an absolute asshat
>all the shit Fou-Lu went through before mentally breaking because of Mami
>pussies from western government being scared of Carronade so much they sacrifice their own allies to please the empire
>Ershin's mad laughter from absurdity of its own existence as it gets beaten around
>Yuna never getting his punishment
The game was a nearly Taro-tier emotional ride.

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>>384670537

yeah, i used to go to a local video store with my dad every weekend to rent a game as a kid. this was back during the ps1-ps2 era so there was so much selection

we were really good friends with the owners and the guy would give us discounts and stuff all the time. the store closed a few years ago because video stores are dead and i felt pretty sad about it, actually.

>>384670318
Strange how the majority of JRPG's back then had awesome soundtracks.

>>384670537
I remember renting Secret of Mana for the first time, that was the day when it became my favourite game of all time. We moved house not too long after, and my dad said "just keep it, we won't be going back".

Still have that copy along with my SNES, and although I'm 31 now, my younger brother and I still play it every Christmas when he comes down to my place to stay.

>>384663683

If you survived the BoF3 desert, that should be easy.

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>>384670889

>>384671123
I enjoyed the BOF3 desert part, I used to grind there because it was so damn comfy. I'm also pretty sure that after a certain amount of time you get rescued don't you?

>>384666848
why the fuck would you not emulate

>>384663576
BoF IV is probably the best RPG on PSOne. 3 is mediocre.

I'm with you OP. I'm play BoFIV for the first time right now and the mini-games are fucking cancer. Like I don't a few here and there but it's just mini-game after mini-game

>>384672315
I think all of them are in the first few hours of the game

>>384663576
I replay 4 every year, while i played BoF3 maybe 2-3 times. Different tastes i suppose 1 and 2 are fun to replay too

>>384663576
Replay BoF3 and go make Sashimi again. I fucking hated replaying that part. Both are great, though.

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>bof 4 dragon system

>>384670646
yuna get killed in the manga

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thanks for reminding me to play best BoF again
>>384672107
this
imo even FFVI cant compete

>>384673748
Don't tease me with your bullshit anon. I know the manga ends with Ryu and Fou-lu traveling the earth as mortals.

BOF IV is one of my favorite rpgs despite the flaws.
I liked 3 too but never finished it, I don't have patience anymore for random encounters and grinding

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>>384674857
yea, i lied. I just try to trick people into reading it

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>>384672738
>Dragon forms upgrade when you have high enough minigame score
>Some of the minigames you can play only once.

>>384669047

Please respond.

>>384663683
Aren't you supposed to go forward until you get to a bick rock, then follow the bird?

>>384675507
Something like that, then you have to walk through again to get to the volcano.
I probably went through that game like 7 times.

>>384663576

You talk about how you hate minigames when BoF3 has all of Rhalpala, the Desert of Death (walk straight between two stars lol) and the Mayor's Dish.

BoF4 has no such hurdles, better graphics and music, more engaging and fleshed out characters (despite being incomplete) and a better world. People like BoF3 because they grew up playing it and like the child/adult idea because it was in OoT. Here's the truth, Majora's Mask is the better Zelda game and 4 is the better BoF game.

>>384675507

Babbies can't read compasses. The game literally tells you the way.

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But which has the better bara cat?

I like both, honestly

3 because it's a journey, you start as a timid boy and becomes a man
4 because it's the perfect blend between japanese and chinese folklore

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>>384676443
As a non-English speaker, that part stumped me as a kid until I actually learned english
Up to that point I just spammed through the dialogue.

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>>384677475

Can you really call Rei bara when he's not in Were-tiger form?

If we go by utility, then Cray with Flail > Rei with anything.

If we go by best boy it is clearly Rei.

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>>384677595

That sucks. Why were you playing a story-driven game in a language you can't understand? I mean, I guess the game looks amazing and the combo system is fun but some shit (like the pabupabu part) would be hell.

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>fishing

>>384677773
Being poor fag family, my stepdad modded my PS1 to work pirated and burned games. BoF4 happened to be one of those games he picked at random from theearly iteration of the internet.

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>>384678065

Dang anon. That's a cool fucking dad.

>>384678065
That takes me back...
>My dad modded our PS1 to do the same thing
>BoF4 was one of the only games that didn't work properly
>Eventually played through it years later

>jRPG, genre where all the games are so goddamn similar, with universally forgettable plots and generic as fuck characters, divide the genre fans with completely different opinions on what is considered good

wew lad

that being said, if a game has random encounters its shit by default. I dont give two fucks how "gorgeous the atmosphere and OST" are.

>>384663576
Sorry I can't relate. Not to 3's lacking character development, it's graphics or the story.
4 was better in every aspect: character design, artwork, first BoF with real effort put into writing the story, did I mention already that it has the best soundtrack among the most jRPG's out there?

I just can't agree on a single bullet point why 3 is better than 4, none whatsoever.

>>384678332
But all the classic WRPGs had random encounters too. Even tabletop RPGs have random encounters.

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>>384678413

>best soundtrack

You absolutely right there my nigga.

I still have a hard time deciding which I like more between Raging Emperor's Banquet and Warring God.

>>384678332

I hope you packed trail mix. When you go fishing with bait this weak, you end up starving, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usx39HDl8QI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769New5vOKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-6kX3yvM_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRT5r5WgPxc

I've always felt like BoF4 is objectively the better game but it just doesn't have the same sense of 'adventure' like BoF3 did.

I feel the same way about Grandia 1 and 2.

>>384679132
Patrician choice is Grandia 3. Does everything better, except story. But story in G1 and 2 was so fucking weak and subpar anyway that it doesnt really matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDBp2oTTWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN14QLHHoPc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWsKOIeA-8

>You will never Momo

>>384679132
I only played BoF4 once when I was younger, and I remember feeling totally disappointed in it after having played BoF3. Like I got to the end, and thought that was going to be the halfway point of the game and the adventure was just about to start, and then the credits rolled. I figured "Well I probably fucked something up and got some sort of early bad end," but when I looked later it turns out I reached the proper ending and did the right answers and beat the last boss.

I don't know what I was expecting, but that feeling of disappointment just sorta stayed with me regarding 4, and I can't seem to like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bJpajDOSrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGcVxXNtEV4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdZlLKtadL8

>>384679883
maybe you have shit taste. bof 4 is great except the dragon system

>>384670646
Best shit ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vO4oOmVazQ

>>384680003
I've certainly been accused of that before, I also dislike FF6, Chrono Trigger, Lufia, a lot of games people consider to be untouchable classics just don't fucking work for me.

I've only recently coming around to accepting that I'm probably in the wrong for thinking so poorly of BoF4, I used to just think everyone was retarded for liking it over 3.

>>384666823
>>384669642
Why is BoF3 Nina's sprites so radically different from her official artwork? It have always bothered me that I'll never get to see the official art of her thighs in pink pantyhose.

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Nina is the best BoF

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This thread convince me of trying out 3, should i play this on PSP or PS1 emulator?

>>384680531
Play the PS1 version on your PSP

>>384680531
PS1 emulator but play the first two games on a SNES emulator first. Use the retranslation for 2.

>>384680237
>FF6
>Chrono Trigger

neither of these grabbed me like bof 3/4, so I might have shit taste too

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>>384680003

People who complain about the dragon system in IV are silly. The dragon system has never been the same from game to game (except for 1 and 2 because of hardware limitations).

Why would they suddenly copy and paste the system from 3 into 4 when 4 is more about the entire world and the characters (including the side cast which are much better flesh out compared to 3) moreso than just dragons? 3 is based around discovering the heritage of the dragons and their diversity. The gene system makes sense there.

I enjoy each game for being different based on its own merit. Even without the (actually pretty shallow) gene system, 4 is vastly superior. The only things both games suffer from are being too fucking easy.

>>384680940
because the system in 3 was neat

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>>384680889

FFV and FFIX are better than VI. VI ties with IV as it is quite good.

Chrono Trigger never "gripped" me but it was fun as hell especially with the Tech system. BOF IV's combo system was like the tech system but on steroids.

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Am I the only one who thinks BoF2 forcing Bow as your best friend was lame? I never even liked the guy

>>384681063
people talking about which final fantasy game is better than which other final fantasy game is a good way to make me close the tab desu

>>384680495
She's only good in 2 and sometimes in 3.

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>>384681031

>30+ combinations of dragons
>only like 5 are cool but have shit/extreme niche uses (Tiamat, Failed Kaiser, Behemoth, Fusion dragons (which remove a character), Myrmidon)
>The rest are varying in usefulness especially when Ryu is your best healer/defensive buffer.

It's "neat" at first blush but nowhere near as nuanced and varied as people claim. I prefer the work that went into the dragon summons for IV. They are beautiful low-poly.

>>384681181

Bye!

>>384681298
of course the balance is completely fucked up in some ps1 game from 20 years ago, but they had pretty sprites and lots of colours. finding the dragon genes and combinations felt satisfying

>>384680940
The dragon system was incredibly different from 1 to 2.

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Japanese cover are the best

US covers A SHIT

How long was the timeskip between Angel Tower and Dauna Mine?

>>384681686

>>384681686

Well fuck my mouth (I didn't feel the change was as big from 1 to 2 as from 2 to 3) but that just strengthens my point even more. The system always changed and it was fresh and fun everytime (Except for Dragon Quarter which I've warmed up to).

>>384681954

I'd say Between 5-8 years.

>>384682086
In 1 it was a one time mana cost to turn into a dragon for the rest of the fight. In 2 it took your whole mana bar to cast a nuke and it was the worst it has been in the series.

>>384682086
The dragon system in 2 was garbage.

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>>384663576
How does it feel to know this series became a shity generic mobile jrpg?

>>384682568
don't care. the old games still exist, I'm not interested in "the series"

>>384682568
I'm no scientist but I'm pretty sure this is what they mean by entropy.

>>384682568

Good thing nobody cared about it and died fast. It was shitty even by mobile game standards.

BoF3 is the FF7 of the series. The gameplay is good enough but is generally improved upon in 4, the world is rather bland, the characters are unremarkable and lack depth compared to 2/4 and what story there is drags on way too long.

>>384667645
It's a great game, and doesn't deserve the hate, but I absolutely understand how it killed the franchise. Capcom likes to do this thing where they take what works, throw it out the window, and slap the name on something totally different.

>>384683110
everything you just said is wrong though

>>384682247
You can have a character with a lower speed stat than Ryu use a mana restoring item on Ryu.
That way you can use the dragon transform every single turn until the boss is dead.

>>384683325
I'm aware. But they took what is a cool transformation mechanic in every other game and turned it into a generic summon spell.

>>384683310
Of course it sounds wrong when ran through the nostalgia filter.

>>384683498
yeah I filtered out the nostalgia