The biggest problem with Atelier games is that they use the cute

Thats all these games have besides the alchemy though

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The biggest problem with Atelier games is that they use the cute girl trope not nearly enough.

hey i'm playing this. i reached diamond or platinum rank, i can't rank up anymore at the blonde loli

now what the hell do i do?

>>384647428
>cute girl trope
and by trope do you mean "it has a cute girl in it"?

>>384648059
>blonde loli rank up
You're playing the wrong game.

>>384647428
there's nothing inherently wrong with tropes though

the biggest problem with OP is they usethe need to breathe trope way too much

>>384647428
That is what they do, that is literally their thing, people buy their games because of it.
This is like saying the souls series mistake is having no plot, or being too boss centered.

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>>384647428
The biggest problem with western games is they don't.

>>384648408
...Continue.

>>384648328
By this thread's logic, if the Souls games had you control a cute anime girl, it would be better.

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>>384648569
That seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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>>384648569
I don't see a problem with that

>>384648408
Is Sophie fun?

>>384648569
I don't see how that ties in with the thread or my post, but I can't say you are wrong per se, although have anime characters rendered in 3D ever worked? I can't think of a single instance. The tales series sort of gets away with it, but even there the 3D models just look off compared to the 2D art. 3DPD has a core of truth.

>>384649321
>have anime characters rendered in 3D ever worked? I can't think of a single instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2KfRq4aKv0

>>384648408
Blatant sexualization makes me connect less with a character and ironically makes any sort of potential sexual pleasure less likely as the character stops being a character and just starts being an object. I don't even mean this in the neo liberal sense either, quite the opposite really. More in Victorian England sense. Sexualization of a character rarely adds anything to them, but often diminishes them instead. Not to mention it breaks immersion completely as all I am seeing is a blatant attempt from some studio to try and make my penis make my purchase decisions, instead of an interesting character I would want to invest time into finding more about.

>>384649505
That's pretty neat. Has it been used or being used in a project that doesn't look like total ass when it comes to the world? Also how does this handle shading?

>>384647428

Will aterlier serier get better if they use brutal shounen like doomguy as mc ?

Still better than Nepshit

>>384649505
nice

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>>384647428

>buy Alelier Rorona because /v/ hypes it
>in game graphics and UI look like Suikoden III, but I don't mind because I loved Suikoden III
>long tutorial but I put up with it because of the promise of alchemy
>alchemy seems really in depth, I think I'm gonna love this game
>suddenly, time limits out of nowhere
>quit the game and sell it on ebay for full price

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>>384649321

>have anime characters rendered in 3D ever worked? I can't think of a single instance.
Dragon Quest VIII, X and XI
Valkyria Chronicles
Basically any Level 5 game (the gameplay is total ass, but the graphics are usually good)
Zelda Wind Waker and BotW

>>384651286
I honestly thought Valkyria looked like complete arse, both it's graphics as its design. Then again that isn't really what I judged the game in anyway.
Never played any of the dragonquests because I keep hearing the story is as compelling as a toddlers pop-up book.
Also is ZeldaWW really 2D rendered in 3D? I have not actually seen any of its footage yet. I thought it was some sort of cell shaded 3D games not unlike borderlands.

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>>384647428
So the next title should be, "Atelier Vastolus and The Friends of the Darkness"?

>>384651841
*meant to say BotW not WW.

>>384651082
The time limits are incredibly lax. Once you know what you're doing you'll be able to meet progression requirements in a few days and have the entire rest of the evaluation period to explore. They're only there so you don't grind, and instead always look to new opportunities to keep the pacing going. You judged it too harshly too soon.

>>384651886
If the game looked like that but still kept the same general light-hearted vibe and mechanics I'd absolutely buy it to be honest.

>>384651841

>I honestly thought Valkyria looked like complete arse, both it's graphics as its design. Then again that isn't really what I judged the game in anyway.
In terms of capturing a hand drawn anime style, it did it very well. Movement is kind of odd, but it doesn't take long to get used to it. If you're looking for properly rendered 3D models that look anime, it did it.

>Never played any of the dragonquests because I keep hearing the story is as compelling as a toddlers pop-up book.
You probably don't deserve to play any game if you follow other people's views like sheep. Most of my favorite games were games 'people' hated. Glad I tried them myself instead of passing on them.

>Also is ZeldaWW really 2D rendered in 3D? I have not actually seen any of its footage yet. I thought it was some sort of cell shaded 3D games not unlike borderlands.
You asked for 3D characters who looked like anime. But even then, Dragon Quest VIII and Ni no Kuni come pretty close to looking like an actual anime, despite having 3D models.

>>384650831
Since when did Reddit want to take reverse (neo)feminism and have women dress (and act) more dignified? I missed that memo, last I heard they were all pro women's liberation and "do whatever the fuck makes you feel good as a person with no regard to how you might be affecting dozens of people". You want to sit on a bus with your purple pithair, wearing a wife beater, no bra and sweating like a hog without a can of deodorant in sight? Good for you girl!
I am pretty sure THAT is what Reddit is to this day.
To be fair the way things are going I would prefer a great new caliphate and stick everyone in burkas.

>>384647428
That's how I feel about all anime games. They don't even try to hide it.

>>384652118

To be fair, if he got the original Rorona then the time limit in that one was anything but lax and you needed a guide if you wanted to see all the endings. Same with Totori. The time limits didn't really start to get pretty lenient until Meruru and everything after.

>>384652336
One of the people is my own brother, another a friend of mine, then on top of that enough noise on the internet, so I opted not to invest dozens of hours into it.

>>384652437

>That's how I feel about all anime games.
Maybe because its popular? They just make stuff that caters to their audience.

But still, not all anime games do that.

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>>384648569
It would unironically be better, yes.

>>384652483
Well to be fair on your to be fair note, a ton of Japanese games require guides. It isn't like in the west where using a guide is seen as either cheating, a sign of incompetence or a idiotic unwillingness to "just play the game". In Nippon the guide is just another tool to get the most out of your game and not miss any of the possible cool endings. It is this mentality that also spawns the crazy 100% completion games with boatloads of shit to collect and do. In a way in Japan you are being the fool if you play WITHOUT a guide, why would you want to miss out on any of the stuff the devs added?

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>>384648569

>>384652437
The most popular VN's, muvluv and fate do not feature cute moeblobs. Stop playing shitty games that specifically target the cute moeblobs loving audience.

>>384653204

The point was that in Meruru and the later games you could easily get the True Endings playing blindly because the time limits allowed you much more time to explore, see events, try new things, and still have time to meander around and explore without worrying too much if you messed something up or not. With the original Rorona and Totori you had to follow very specific guidelines that allowed little to no room for error if you wanted to get the True Ends and one mistake or even wasting a single day could screw you out of them even if you were near the end of the game. I'm not saying there shouldn't be no effort at all required to reach certain goals, but I can understand why people would be turned off by strict time limits if it means you have to meticulously follow a guide from the moment you start playing. Doesn't really make it feel like you have any freedom and are just going down a list checking off boxes.

>>384650108
The only connection I need is my dick to Totori's potion-moistened skin.

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>>384649321

>>384648569
You mean Code Vein?

>>384654745
Code Vein looks like shit though. It has those God Eater animations going on.

>>384654745
Have they showed character creation yet my purchase hinges on whether I can be a super slut or a cute loli.

>>384647428
The biggest problem with Atelier games is that I'm not a cute girl

>>384654926
>>384655362
gaaay

I love Linca!

>>384647428
>biggest problem is too much cute girls
>they make a male MC in E&L
>everyone absolutely hated it

No, I think it's fine.

>>384658450
I think Logy got good rankings in popularity pools.

The biggest problem with Atelier games is the lack of hetero.

>>384649321
HAI DOMO VIRTUAL YOUTUBER KIZUNA AI DESU

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>>384648646

Where should I start playing the Atelier games? I wanted to play them in release order but I don't read moon

Wilbell best girl

>>384661218
Start with a trilogy.