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This is Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca also known as Ashe - the

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This is Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca also known as Ashe - the 19 year old Princess in hiding of the Kingdom of Dalmasca and leader of the resistance against the Empire.

What does this pose suggest of her character?
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>>384641795
is she a virgin?
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I masturbated to her ass.
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>>384641795
she thinks (You) are a faggot
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>>384641795
She is a harlot.
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>How do you want your design family?
>just ojfe56soanbe7454egerbfsbei my shit up
>say no more
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>>384641795
>Toes pointed inward
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what about Vaan?
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>>384641901

Guilty as well. I was 14 at the time. But 10 years later, not much has changed.
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>>384641795
>>384642569
They look like they're posing for a boy band album cover and that's probably where they got the inspiration for 15.
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>>384641795
has an itchy nose
>them hips when in combat with a bow or gun
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>>384643072
>didnt give her any combination that lets her use a ranged attack

fuck
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Is this game any good? I'm not a huge FF fan. Tried to play 13 couldn't get into it.
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I sense nagging. Constant nagging.
Also naivity, curious nature, impatient and tends to be a stick up the ass overall

How did I do?
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>>384641795

>What does this pose suggest of her character?
She's a Tsun bitch who tries to act cute to mask her horrible personality and inability to take criticism.
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He secretly wants to be a loose girl.
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>>384643208
>Tried to play 13 couldn't get into it.
13 is just plain bad.
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>>384641795

I want to come in her belly button.
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>>384641795
Why does she dress like a slut?
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>>384646227

Because she's Princess Leia.
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>>384643208
12 is a lot different than 13 and the rest of the series. It's my favorite FF and I've played nearly all of them. The remaster is also really well done.
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its like japanese artists googled prostitutes and that was the inspiration for ashes design.
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>>384641795
I really hope Rasler died before the honeymoon
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>>384641795
Gave me my thigh fetish. I've been a better man ever since.
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>>384641795
>What does this pose suggest of her character?
puffy pussy :3
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>>384643115
>>384643072
Quite.
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>>384643208
They're all different, but if you didn't like 13 you probably won't like 12 either. 10 and before are worth checking out though.
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>>384641795
This is OP also known as Faggot - the 17 year old Furry in hiding of the Kingdom of /v/ and leader of the trans movement against the internet.
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Penelo > Fran > Elza > Al-Cid's Secretary > Drace > Ashe
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>>384641901
Same. Multiple times. Ended up rushing the game's ending because my dick was raw
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It suggests a girl that doesn't have nearly enough porn.
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>>384649958
This right here
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Why do most FFs past 7 or 8 have no or low-quality lewds?
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>>384641795
Future Supervillain.
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whoever designed her, Vaan's, and Basch's costumes should be taken out back and given constructive criticism for why their designs are very poor. Penelo's isn't much better but it's passable.

such an awful blight on an otherwise amazing game.
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>>384650804
I have a feeling that Basch's outfit was partially inspired by Nomura.
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>>384650563
It's pretty surprising how lackluster FF hentai is. FF7 and FF13 have a shit ton, mostly Tifa and Lightning, but the real best girls come from FFVIII and FFX. I wish FF had as much hentai as Overwatch and League of Legends gets.
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>>384650804
Basch at least has the excuse for being chained up for several years.
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>>384642569
>penniless street rat wears full iron greaves and gloves but can't afford a decent shirt
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>>384651146
Basch also basically dresses by necessity by throwing on whatever he finds in the middle of the mines and then putting vest over it when he gets to Rabanastre, he dresses like trash because he literally dressed in trash.

Something i failed to pick up on when i first played the game.
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>>384650563

FF games are entirely front-loaded. Their hype dies off in a month so by the time a comiket rolls around, the hype for FF games have already passed. They only get one round of doujins as a result. Over time, less and less doujin artists attempt to make FF related stuff since they got burned the previous times. These artists will make far more money and fans drawing a shitty touhou or Pokemn doujin than working on Final Fantasy.
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>>384650804
Fran's is the worst.
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>>384641947
its called hathor faggot jewish kike bloodly cock suckin nigger
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>>384651461
Fran is fine. The long fingernails ruin it though.
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>>384641901
For me it wasn't the ass

I was like 13 years old but I had the game and the strategy guide. In the guide there's this huge page large photo of Ashe where her thighs look juicy af

Rubbed one out multiple times to that picture
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>>384650804
Dissidia and FFTA2 salvaged Vaan.
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>play FF12 when it first came out
>didn't like it
>was really slow
>didn't care for the story beyond vaan wanting to be a sky pirate and hating imperials
>balthier was cool too I guess

>play FF12:TZA
>4x makes the game 1000x better, game is fast paced, not a slow sluggish grindfest anymore
>actually understand and give a shit about the political story
>vaan is an awful character, literally has no place in the game
>I'd still love a FF game about Vaan becoming a sky pirate, but he really has no place in FF12, which I guess is why Revenant Wings exists
>realize that the imperials literally did nothing wrong and that ashe is more of a villain than vayne
>balthier is still cool
>game went from being one of my least favorite to one of my most favorite FF games
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>>384649356
>>384643208

Not true. XII is one of my favourites and I despised XIII. The battle style of XII and the world exploration is much more in depth than XIII, plus all the characters besides Vaan and Penelo are well-written and interesting. XIII is an all-around spam-x shitfest
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>>384651689
>>realize that the imperials literally did nothing wrong and that ashe is more of a villain than vayne

The whole thing was basically "road to hell is paved with good intentions".
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>>384651689
Is the gameplay still 90% automated in Zodiac?

I despised the gameplay in the original, same reason why I hate Persona 3 FES. Autocombat in RPGs is something I despise.
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>>384651897
Anon, did you also complain about characters being copies after filling out the grids? I'm going to teach you a new word today: optional.
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>>384651897
XII should've just taken Grandia 2's battle system and incorporated free movement and no screen transition.
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>>384651897
I would actually say that, because of the 4x time multiplier and also because of the balance changes, the game is actually MORE automated than before. I hated how automated FF12 was when it first came out, but combat goes by in a flash due to the time modifier that the automated aspect of the game is barely noticeable. Basically, the autocombat isn't really a criticism for me anymore.
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>>384651457
That's too bad. It feels really weird for this to be such a major international franchise and yet you have to seriously dig for decent stuff.
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>>384652052
>Anon, did you also complain about characters being copies after filling out the grids?

They already did that somewhat with FF X though, it didnt bother me that much.

>>384652163
Fug, I don't think I'll get it then. I love CTB and ATB, but I just cannot enjoy automated combat, I'd rather play a hack and slash that that.
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>>384650804
Penelo and Balthier are the only decent Designs.

Basch sort of because of what they were going for with him, he looks like a bum but that was the point.
Fran's is too obvious fapbait. Fine for what it is but still meh
Ashe is a bunch of shit and idea's clusterfucked into something that not only doesn't make much sense, it still looks stupid and slutty and not much at all. where the fuck do people think she's a good design?
Vaan is a fucking disaster, and literally because he's missing a shirt. It'd be more or less fine otherwise. as evidenced by >>384651679
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>>384652492
God, I must be the only one who likes Vaan's shirtless design. I mean, I'm okay with him having a shirt, but he's literally FF's Aladdin. He's a street rat who lives in the desert and gets by by stealing. If anything, I hate the fact he's wearing a bunch of expensive looking armor. That goes against his character more than the fact he's not wearing a shirt.
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>>384652729
He'd look better if he didn't have the sash. Gives him a weird high pants look.
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Isn't Ashe's clothing fine considering she's trying to hide her appearance as a princess? Looking like some slut kind of makes sense. I like Vaan's outfit too, fittingly illfitting with the rest of the designs. Fran is the only one I have issue with, just distracting.
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>>384652729
I actually don't mind shirtless Vaan either, but god damn Shirt Vaan looks swag as fuck.
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>>384641795
>ffxii ps2 release
>pick up my pre-order for the steelbook and CE guide
>ask to see all the CE guides that they got
>spend half an hour looking at the sealed guides from all angles
>finally pick one
>got the ashe cover like i wanted
>went home and fapped
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>>384652729
I like it too and I agree with you. Vaan's outfit suits him perfectly. I never got the hate for his design or for him as a character.
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>>384643072
Is there a short clip of this?
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>>384653097
>I never got the hate for him as a character.

Well, I understand that at least. I like Vaan's character, but he stops being a character after like ten hours. He becomes a background character after Ashe appears.

Honestly, for me, it isn't I hate Vaan, but I hate Ashe. She steals the spotlight, she orders Balthier's crew around, telling him to keep taking her to places to get artifacts, never really pays him back, and she can't get over the fact she completely lost the fight to Archadia. Not only that, but she goes on a quest to essentially find fantasy nukes and use them on Archadia, even if that means killing millions of innocents, simply because her boyfriend of a year died.

She's worse than Lightning.
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i'm playing this game right now. i'm already at the place where the spiders eat the power. i made vaan a shikari and baltheir a knight so far. i'm regretting making baltheir a knight right now, because i feel like thats more for basch. i haven't chosen anything for fran yet. what should i do? i feel like starting over
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>>384653419
eh, unless you're autistic and want the jobs to fit the characters (i.e., giving Machinist to Balthier), it really doesn't matter.

If you're the other kind of autistic and like to min-max characters and go for the best possible class setup, Balthier is actually really good as a knight and is ironically horrible at guns.

If you do want to start over, I don't really feel like where you are at currently is all that far. You should consider keeping multiple saves btw.
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>>384653575
what should i make basch then? and fran?
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>>384649658
Elza is a retard or something. Wearing her g string over her shorts like that.
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>>384653652
Basch = Monk
Fran = Redmage
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>>384653663
Everyone kept telling her her thong was sticking out and she thought wearing it on the outside would fix that.
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>>384653785
i was going to give red mage to vaan, what should his second class be? and how do i choose a second class?
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>>384651679
Kinda weird how a psp spin off has the best charactet designs of all the games.

Tidus looked better here, prishe also looked waaaay better as did shantoto.

Cecil was fucijng perfect, I mean it was all so good.
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>>384653419
here's the autist's guide to fitting jobs without repeats while still being relatively optimized. Q# refers to quickenings with higher numbers being the more expensive license slots.

Vaan- Shikari / Foebreaker - Zalera, Adrammelech - Q2, Q3, Q4
Penelo- Monk / Black Mage - Chaos - Q1, Q2, Q4
Balthier- Machinist / Uhlan - Famfrit - Q1, Q3, Q4
Fran- Archer / Red Battlemage - Shemhezai, Cuchulainn, Zodiark - Q1, Q2, Q4
Ashe- Time Battlemage / White Mage - Belias, Zeromus - Q1, Q2, Q3
Basch- Knight / Bushi - Mateus, Hashmal, Ultima, Exodus - Q2, Q3, Q4
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>accept Antlion hunt
>run into Lhusu mines
>grab Koga blade
>run out

was there anything else in there worth grabbing now? I'm not really strong enough for that place yet.
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>>384653887
I am not actually retarded, my thumbs are too big and typing on a touch screen is hard. Sorry for the typos.
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>>384653863
Give vaan foebreaker
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>>384653887
That's what happens when you put based Nomura in charge.

>there are fags not excited for FFVII remake which is being headed by Tetsuya "savior of the final fantasy series" Nomura
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>>384651448
He cleans up well.

>>384641947
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>>384654014
I think you can get Iga there too. I remember getting them both within a pretty short distance of each other.
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>>384653912
damn. feeling like i should go with this and start over. and how do i choose a second class?
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>>384653386
You completely failed to see the point of the plot. Vaan was an avatar of the people of Rabanastre for Ashe, it's Vaan that prevents her re-starting the war because through him she sees how the people would suffer.
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>>384651276
when you loot corpses the chest plates and helmets tend to be very damaged because thats where most people aim
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>we were supposed to get final fantasy XII: fortress
>a spinoff that would played similar to dark souls set in the FF12 / tactics / ivalice universe
>based on what little info there is, the game would have starred Basch (as Gabranth) travelling across Archadia
>Archadia was going to be more Norse / Northen European themed opposed to Dalmasca's middle eastern influences
>an older queen Ashe and an older Emperor Larsa would have been other main characters

god, this sounds 1000x better than FF12 or that fucking Revenant Wings
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>>384641895
no she had a husband.
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>>384654492
>how do i choose a second class?
Around the time you get all six characters / your first esper, you get the option of getting a second class for each character. Happens a little randomly but early on.
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>>384653386
Isn't Ashe's arc realizing that peace with the empire is the necessary and adult thing to do? She outgrows her vengeful childish ways.
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>>384654685
>Basch falls in love with Ashe
>Ashe mad he fights another war
>cucks him and fucks Larsa
>Basch gets imprisoned freed then dies
Yeah nah fuck off that sequel deserves the trash.
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>>384649658
how bout Rinok
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>>384651276
>street kid who fights rats defeats the most powerful monsters in Ivalice and one of the gods in less than a year
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All we need is 'No Pansu' DLC.
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>Good luck, I'm behind 7000 skeletons!
Fuck this rabbit
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>>384653912
Assuming the order takes into account which job you pick first, then it's better to go White Mage before Time Mage since Time is a late bloomer.
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>>384654758
who is the best samurai? and is it best to choose their classes right away or can you get far without it
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>>384654920
An anon wrote an essay on it years ago. In short yeah, Vaan shows Ashe that her revenge would ultimately lead to senseless death and violence on behalf of her people. She resolves to keep her revenge to herself and become a good queen to prevent them suffering in the way she was.
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>>384655104
>Bangaa
>Hair

The fuck
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>>384654685
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fortress
pass
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>>384655439
she's a lady bangaa
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>>384655439
more likely than you'd think
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>>384655342
>who is the best samurai?
from what I remember, Balthier. He apparently has the fastest katana attack and he has high strength. The Zodiac Age changed the stats around, so perhaps this isn't the case anymore. If you don't want Balthier to be a knight, then Basch or Ashe is your second best bet.

>and is it best to choose their classes right away or can you get far without it
Best to choose right away. There's no benefit from not choosing one.
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>tfw you like your party but you're beginning to see its flaws but you dont want to start over mid way though the game
It would be nice if the beginning to class selection for all characters was shorter. This is a problem with most Final Fantasies. Another aspect that SaGa beats FF on.
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>>384655342
>>384655551
Ashe is the best Samurai, she has by far the highest Magic, and Katanas calculate damage off magic skill.
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>>384655641
Strength and magic actually. She has shit Vit though and bushi has no armor
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>>384655689
Yeah but you're going to be giving everyone Bubble Belts anyway.
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>>384641795
>muh power
>muh nethecite
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>>384655641

but muh combo speed
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I want to replay this game again, shame the ending will be the same, when you win the battle against Vayne at the end and he goes off limping after Venat, I was already expecting Vayne to call for help only for Venat to betray and kill him, that was exactly what happened in so many stories I had read.

But then both Vayne and Venat did exactly what I was not expecting:

>Vayne: Venat! I have failed us both. I am no Dynast-King. You must find another. One who might realize your ambitions.

Venat: They are fulfilled beyond your knowing. The Cryst is sundered, Age of Stones, complete. From the Undying ones the world is freed. You shall not tread this path alone. Together we go, come...

Vayne having the dignity to not beg and accept his end with grace, and Venat being loyal to the point that he was willing to give up his immortality and die together with Vayne elevated those two to the hall of my favorite final fantasy characters, I wish you could just leave Vayne alive to enjoy the world where mankind is free from the occuria tyranny.
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>>384655804
Not really and besides, you need to think about before that anyway, that's end game shit.
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>>384655842
>Ashe
>Masamune
>Genji Gloves
>Haste
>Bravery
>Berserk

Combo speed doesn't matter because these combos NEVER END
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>>384651670
Sheeeit, I know the image. Guilty as charged. Was for science of course
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>>384655875
Vayne was an egotist murderer. He had Shakespearian grace, but that's just Ivalice dialogue.
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B'NARGIN
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What color are her panties?
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X > VII > Tactics > XII:TZA > IV > VI > FF:CC > IX > V > RW > VIII > XII > X-2 > Type-0 > XIII > FFVII:CC > III > I > XV > II > DoC
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>Penelo never takes her shoes off

Dropped.
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>>384656215
was XV really that bad?
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>>384655302
You can toss a beserk mote or whatever it's called at it, and it will stop running away.
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>>384655302
This fucking bunny, man.
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>>384656215
8=9>7>12>15>10>13
Stop listing random crap.
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>>384656456
XV's combat system is really, really, really bad. It's even worse than XIII, because I actually fucking finished XIII. XV I just hated everything about it. (And I hated XIII too.)
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>>384657629
XIII's combat isnt bad, per se, it just removes pretty much any player agency and is shallow as fuck. People like to meme about XII playing itself but XIII actually plays itself.
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>all these missing sound effects in TZA
I'm really thrown off doing quickening chains now
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>>384641795
why is a princess dressed as a $2 whore?
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>>384659735
It's the latest desert fashion!
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>>384660023
no it isn't
even cidney is dressed more modestly and she's lived out in the desert for years
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>>384657629
How terrible is XV's combat?
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>>384659735
because she's hiding the fact that she's the princess
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>>384656191
Red. Same as her skirt.
Tilt up the camera while she stands on a stair case and the Party Leader is in the floor.
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>>384643208
12 and 13 are complete opposites. Depending on why you didn't like 13 you might actually love 12.
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>>384661783
>people keep drawing it white
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Her pose indicates she's mad about being in a shitty game.
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>>384641795
Help me decide what I should assign everyone as their second job, /v/.
Here's what I've got so far

Vaan - Shikari
Bathier - Machinist
Fran - Time Battlemage
Basch - Knight
Ashe - Bushi
Penelo - White Mage

I'm thinking Bushi/Black Mage for Ashe, and Shikari/Uhlan for Vaan. But I'm cool with y'all filling in the blanks. Help me out.
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>>384641795
The pose suggests girlishness but the face suggests a level of maturity. Fitting to Ashe.
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>>384641795
That she had trouble fitting into the frame of the picture.
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>>384641795
That the game's promo department didn't take a single look at the game's story or the character's personality.
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>>384653386
>Honestly, for me, it isn't I hate Vaan, but I hate Ashe. She steals the spotlight
Because she's the main character
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>>384662436
Holy shit. You still come to /v/?
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>>384662297
White panties are a sign of purity and virginity. They must have missed the fact that there was a time skip before the war where Ashe got her 16 year old pussy smashed into oblivion.
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When is this game coming to steam
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>>384662538
It's more than a decade later, and people still don't know that Ashe is absolutely the main character of Final Fantasy XII and there is zero ambiguity about it.
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>>384656027
Why not post it?

For science.
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>>384641795
I don't believe you. She killed herself, Ondore said so.
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>>384662752
I'm Captain Basch
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>>384662538
I'm saying that I like Vaan's story more than Ashe's and would prefer a game where Vaan was the main character opposed to Ashe.
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>>384662559
For games I enjoy. I'm playing 12 currently. Fantastic game.
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>>384662680
in one year max
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>Almost done killing Hell Wyrm
>Accidentally open the door and leave the area
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>384662728
>She isn't playable until 10 hours into the game, that you can complete in 30 hours.

>SHE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER GUYS!

Sorry but one thing is the protagonist (Vaan) and another thing is the main characterS (the entire group).

Learn the difference.
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>>384663124
Okay false alarm his health stays the same
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>>384654112
I'm not excited and nobody should, because modern SE can't make good games anymore, as they have proven tome and again since XIII. There is 0 indication the game will be good, it will be eye candy at best.
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>>384641795
Ashe was, at the time, the FF girl I cared the least about (now I care least about Lightning)

But man, the Ashe porn was fucking amazing. I love a fallen/disgraced noble/princess. Rock hard any time I see her.
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>>384663160
It doesn't matter whether she's the "most playable" or not
"Main character" also implies the intrigue revolves around her, her family and her destiny, gameplay is secondary in such a heavily story-driven license as FF
In a lot of games your character is merely a "supporting character" allowing the main character to accomplish its true role
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>>384654696
who immediately went off to die in a war the next day.

they didnt have time to fuck, she is a virgin
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>>384663160
It is Ashe's game, she is most definitely the protagonist. Vaan isn't central to the events nor does he move the plot by his actions after you leave Bhujerba. From there on it's Ashe. It's her kingdom she's trying to save, it's her husband she wants to avenge, she wants to go to Raithwall's tomb, she goes to Jahara and Bur-Omisace to ask for guidance, she is who Cid invites to Giruvegan, she is who the occuria chose as their agent against Vayne and Venat... nobody else in the party comes even close to being as relevant as she is.
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>>384663864
>implying the last thing he did before leaving to war wasn't destroying her pussy
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100+ hours using the same outfit is a crime

Why is this allowed in 2017
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>>384664093
I'd kill for some alternate costumes in this game.
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HOW DO I QUICKLY CHANGE PARTY LEADER without going into the party menu.
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>>384662404
just pick a second job with same Armour type nodes
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>>384665246
d-pad
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>>384664225
man, something like pic related
Fran in a Red Battlemage outfit
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Anyone tried the Weak Mode yet?
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>>384666238
its just enforced 1,22,333
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>>384661625

pretty shit

it's too slow and floaty and it feels like it takes too long for anything to happen. also i feel like the dodging/countering system feels completely whack and Noctis' animations are so slow you can't really dodge anything midway through an attack

so instead you kinda just stand there and wait for an attack to come before you start hitting things
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>>384663185

all hunts work like that. if you leave the area, they will start to slowly regenerate but it's not immediate

for example with yiazmat, you can even knock his health down, and then fuck off and heal up (granted you don't take too long and he doesn't have Regen casted on himself)
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>>384652492
still if you look at most common folk of that area they often go without shirts, likely because ITS THE FUCKING DESERT, however this concept doesn't follow for penelo and other commoners.
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>>384666865
>going on a desert without a shirt
Are you suicidal?
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>>384667484
Seems to be normal form to have a kind of shirtless approach such as that in conventional media, so they likely just picked up the aladin trope. Besides its not as if he actually doesnt end up without a shirt once you start to go significantly into the desert areas given you need to gear him out. He's just a shirtless cunt in a magic city at the start of it all.
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i liked penelo's tattoos she only had in the ending of xii
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>>384667704
lewd womb tattoo?
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>>384663160
If you speed through the game in 30 hours but take 10 to get to Ashe you've got some weird shit going on my dude
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>>384667959
8 hours of dutsia farming as solo vaan before entering the sewers
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>>384668270
8 hours is ridiculous, I did it for maybe an hour with turbo on and with 101 phoenix downs I got to a high enough level to remain 10+ levels ahead of everything so far

If you want to measure the actual progression of the game Ashe is only about 10% of the way in and the rest of the story revolves greatly around her and Vayne making them the effective protagonist and antagonist regardless of the grey areas both have

Vaan's main contribution to the story focuses on his contribution to her world view and Basch's is focused on Gabranth as well as Balthier on Cid, and Fran and Penelo are just there
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>>384666865
>No shirt
>Desert

Does not compute.
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>>384668990
just add in
>magic city is where he spends most of his time, with the majority of the population being shirtless making it likely they have a cooling system.
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>>384641795
Why is she picking her nose
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>>384653912
that looks pretty shitty
Vaan hunter/breaker is a waste, he won't use his Mag attribute at all
Penelo monk/black mage is a great mage thanks to holy and monks healing but a terrible melee, this combo is so fucking overrated for some reason
Balthier machinist/Uhlan will be useless by the end game thanks to no combo weapon
Fran red/archeris good
Ashe time/white mage will run out of MP in bosses all the time
Basch knight/bushi is fine
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>>384655551
>The Zodiac Age changed the stats around
source on this?
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>no game centered around political drama in the empire with the judges
the voice acting in drace's death scene makes me rock hard.

you wear the mummer's motely well, berghan
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Thoughts?
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I can't get the sandstorm to start right outside of Rabanstre for the Ring Worm hunt.

I'm at the part of the game where the Giza Plains are raining, I just beat Vossler
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>>384672327
Is this the Prima guide?

Red mage and shikari on Penelo is apparently an amazing tank according to gamefaqs.

Everything else sounds stupid though.
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Having finally played some of the game in Japanese i'm more convinced this is a game where the dub is superior.

In particular this scene is one of my favorites in the game, but it sounds meh in Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9769vztXW4
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>>384663994
DELTE THIS
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>>384664093
Seriously. How many outfits did FFV have?
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I forgot how cheap some marks and Espers can be. Even with Seitengrat unless you are way overloaded they will wreck you. Doesn't help that you can't get the Nihopalaoa from the bazzar anymore.
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>>384641795
B'nargin

Buhnargin

bnrognson

pfosidmjs
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>>384667854
she had a midriff tattoo but its hard to see. mostly arm tattoos.

What's weird is that they were completely removed for Revanant Wings, despite having the same design. I actually really like Penelo's look from XII's ending. I wish she'd been like that from the beginning.
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>>384667704
>Worst girl just got worse
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>Magick and Technicks that have a whopping 10% chance to spawn
WHY
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>>384651897
>I despised the gameplay in the original, same reason why I hate Persona 3 FES. Autocombat in RPGs is something I despise.
yeah i sure want to spend 40+ hours of my life hitting X for basic attacks
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>>384673392
I can see why they got rid of it, it looks like Filo found a box of markers and drew on her. How did I miss this?
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>>384641795
Though sexually liberal and highly ornate, the costumes of FFXII are completely appropriate for a high-culture desert peoples, and succeed in going out of their way to communicate an exotic, unique society that is unconcerned with shame regarding fashion. I think these designs specifically and intentionally juxtapose against the royal, high-society role of the characters to show off the character's grace, dignity, and an unwillingness to be interrupted in their charge by the implications of cultural fashion.
Also it's very hot in Rabanastre, and everyone is attractive.
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>>384641795
So how's Ashe's pantyshot game in the remaster?
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>>384674429
other pic
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>>384644612
stay in line famalam
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>>384674841
it's strange because here it look like they're going on the forearm but we don't see them in game
maybe it's just some body painting for the occasion
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>>384642569
Is the people triggered by Vaan also triggered by Aladdin?
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>>384641795
this is the pose you make when you suddenly see pic related.
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>>384674956
I know, it's ridiculous. We introduce the character as a desert theif stealing fruit from guards who stole it from a local, and escaping into a bazaar crowd, and people suddenly turn around and wonder why he's only got a vest.
Complaints about Vaan are very 2006, they don't really take anymore.
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>>384663160
Legitimately the entire game revolves around Ashe. Everyone else in the main party is a rag tag ensemble group who just end up following her because they all have personal issues to work out that can be done alongside her
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>>384670947
Most of the characters in that scene i think were random british stage company actors who never done VA work before. Which is why that scene kind of plays likes something you would see on a stage performance
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>>384641795
Fun fact: Ashe is the most DP'd FF character in doujins
Is it fair?
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>>384677041
Makes up for being relatively less known
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I played FF12 when I was like 13, and the combat was just confusing and boring to me

ten years later, is it actually confusing and boring or did I just not give it enough of a try?
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>>384677207
I think it has to do with her sex appeal being her legs and ass. I mean you look for Tifa you obviously will find mostly titty fuck while Yuna's are mostly yuri
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>>384677209
What the hell could possibly be confusing about the combat?
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>>384654685
>>Archadia was going to be more Norse / Northen European themed

Was that going to be the case? I thought it was meant to take place in a new region entirely with Nordic stylings.
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>>384655875
Venat was always Best Girl.
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>>384663878
>she is who the occuria chose as their agent against Vayne and Venat.

Speaking of, was it ever fucking explained why Vaan could see the Occuria like Ashe, Vayne and Cid could?
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>>384667484
>>384668990
Living in the desert doesn't mean you have to spend all day out in the sun. I'd imagine living in the city itself, and Lowtown as well, loose/less clothing would be preferable.
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XII was better at being Star Wars than TFA
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>>384674429
>>384673392
Nothing indicated the designs were permanent.
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>>384678459
Because he was the only other one who was as butthurt.
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>>384651621
>she will never scratch your back as you impregnate her
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>>384655875
Yep, Vayne and Venat are truly awesome and the final fight of this game is one of the most well-informed and theologically significant one in the series. Vayne is a sinister but virtuous Christ-figure, and Venat is a truly merciful humanitarian God who proudly rejects the Divine Nature. It's truly something special.
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>>384679078
Go away, Cid.
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Vaan - Knight / ?
Bathier - Shikari / Foebreaker
Fran - Red Mage / Archer
Basch - Bushi / ?
Ashe - Black Mage / Monk
Penelo - White Mage / Machinist

This is what I have planned so far. I really want it to be a bit more lore-friendly for Balthier, but this was recommended to get the most out of the leading man. not sure what to do with the Vaan and Basch for their second classes
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>>384670476
>Vaan hunter/breaker is a waste, he won't use his Mag attribute at all
Not a big deal because the girls more than make up for it

>Balthier machinist/Uhlan will be useless by the end game thanks to no combo weapon
Learn to take advantage of weaknesses. Due to damage cap removal, he can more than make up for the lack of a combo weapon

>Penelo monk/black mage is a great mage thanks to holy and monks healing but a terrible melee
You don't use black mages for melee retard.

>Ashe time/white mage will run out of MP in bosses all the time
Learn to set up good gambits, you don't need to be constantly casting curaja or buffing willy nilly
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>>384679140
Oh I'm so sorry that I'm capable of performing my divine task without having a panic attack and stealing anything I can just to prove I'm autonomous.
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>>384679579
You're drunk again, aren't you?
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>>384679697
>had a cushy life in Archades and even got a good military position
>ran away from all that to be a pirate
b-but my dad was insane guys
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>>384679697
How's life with the bunny girl? I'm glad your mother isn't around to see what you've become.
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I have to ask this: do HP nodes stack between two boards or do they work the same as lores and swiftness?
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>>384680174
>Not culturally enriching tree hugging bunnygirls who get high as fuck on mist

You're missing out, bro
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I just finished trial mode and the only trophy I need now for the plat is the completion of the bestiary. On a scale of 1 to 10, how painful will this get?
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>>384680429
it takes speedrunners 24 hours to do it. Take that as you will.
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>>384654685
>played similar to dark souls
Glad we never got it
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>>384680429
depends on which entries you haven't completed
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>>384641795
never noticed she wore heels... fucking immersion breaking bullshit now im never going to finish this game
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>Knight/Bushi ends up getting most of the espers
I know that it doesn't really matter in the long run but it still bothers me somewhat.
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>>384672327
>Knight/Machinist
The rest are bad, but fucking what?
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>>384641795
It suggests she's the best Final Fantasy heroine
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>>384680753
Red/Shikari is actually good since you get a dagger tank that can actually deal damage/heal/set ailments.

Monk/Foe is kind of viable if only by sheer virtue of it giving Monk access to Heavy Armor + Genji Gloves.
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FF12 was so boring and it wasn't just the auto combat. Even with full control over the fighting it was just boring. Attacks felt like they had no impact, and it takes far too long to kill weakling enemies considering the maps are filled with them. Then you have everyone being copies of each other towards the end because that has been FF for a while now. And huge maps with nothing in them but trash mobs, leading to 2 second dialogues before walking back the way you came

It was just all so dull
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>>384679186
Vaan could go with Time/Mage if you want a good tank with strong support magic. Or, go with Bushi to make a strong attacker with some minor support magic.

Basch could go Knight (see above), and Monk works well, though Basch is a bad pick for that role.
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>>384680973
Oh yeah and also I find it stupid that doing hunts makes you just plow through everything except for the next hunt because you get overleveled. Just why?
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>>384681071
Doubling up Knight is terrible its complete dog shit without eating up like half of your espers. He can get away with Bushi/Monk because Bushi gives a ton of magic lores and mystic armor.
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>>384681179
Hunts are essentially post-game content that are available from the getgo. A lot of people get caught in the trap of trying to barrel through them and getting burnt out on the rest of the game.
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>>384681362
>post game
>gives equipment relative to difficulty of the boss
They were just poorly implemented. Give some nice loot as reward but not so much exp
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>>384643115
Just get a seitengrat to see it
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>>384652492
Excuse me? Penelo's design is shit. Why the fuck does she have those wing things?
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>>384681767
You mean her cute little harness? It's work clothes with a cute flair, perfect for any orphan bachelorette.
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>>384656456
No, XV is the best FF.

>>384657629
No it isn't, it's objectively superioer to XIII in every single conceivable way.

>>384661625
It's not, he's just XIII-kun shitposting.
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