Why does /v/ prefer bloodborne to Dark Souls 3? Bloodborne is/has

Because muh kino

If BB dropped the RPG/stats bullshit and went full Ninja Gaiden it would've been even more god tier.

>/v/ is a single person
You don't even deserve a (You).

>>384562008
To be fair, this is kind of one of the rare general opinions /v/ has. I've seen very few people actually prefer Dark Souls 3 to Bloodborne.

>>384561629
>more forgiving, casual combat
But it's far more fun and feels much better. After playing BB I played DaS3 through once then dropped it. Sidestepping was also a feature that is essential now. It was jarring going back to the frantic spastic rolling in Dark Souls.

>much more simplified character build system, you don't have to think/make choices as much
I'll take 15 trick weapons that feel great to use over 20 swords and 20 axes that all have the same shitty useless weapon arts. And 30 sets of armor that all look incredibly detailed over shit like "hollow soldier set" and the rehashed sets like Xanthous that appear in every game to beef up the armor count.

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>>384562115
Exactly. To generalise, /v/ does seem to have a strong preference for bloodborne on this one.

I get the artsy "kino" bullshit, it's a gorgeous game (I work in the games industry as a 3D artist, it's my #1 choice visually), it's stylish, the theme and background story are all very well woven together. But that doesn't stop Dark Souls 3 + both DLCs from being a better GAME in pretty much most ways imo.

>>384562408
>I'll take 15 trick weapons that feel great to use over 20 swords and 20 axes that all have the same shitty useless weapon arts.
this so much

>>384561629
The game is absolutely not more forgiving. You get punished much harder than in Dark Souls 3.

Also how the fuck could anybody say you don't have to think about choices as much when in Dark Souls 3 you don't have to think about choices at all? You can just respec whenever you want.

>>384561629
m8. DS3 was my first souls and it was MUCH easier than Bloodborne. most DS3 bosses can be blocked indefinitely with the slightest bit of stamina management, and rolled through to conserve stamina for big weapons. timing L2 is more difficult than holding L1.

>>384561956
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>>384561629
>casual combat
But anon, I play games to have fun, not to torture myself for extra /v/ HC gaymur points.

>>384562408
>Sidestepping was also a feature that is essential now. It was jarring going back to the frantic spastic rolling in Dark Souls.
So you have to compare games and can't take things for what they are on their own?

It's not essential now, it has sadly become so in your head.

>>384561629
>It's good, but it just feels like a casualised Dark Souls 3.
No. The bosses in Bloodborne are a lot more difficult than anything in Dark Souls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxRvPgVijKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPP1e7hOyik

>>384564340
But it was casual, too easy. Just sidestep and attack, regen your life.

You know some people likes a challenge, and too many benefits just make it too easy to have control.

>>384561629
>hardest game in the series
>casualised

>>384564530
They wouldn't know because they don't own a PS4.

>>384564525
>too easy
>sidestep and attack, regen your life
Somebody didn't play the Chalice Dungeons. Or the DLC for that matter.

>>384564437
>Can easily regen life by learning a bosses pattern and blindspots
>Somehow more difficult than DS

>>384564630
Probably a PC gamer

>>384564694
Yup, confirmed for not having played the game.

>>384561629
I found DS3 so much easier. Only bosses that were challenging in the base game were Pontiff and Nameless King.

>you don't have to think/make choices as much
DS3 has respecs, your choices don't mean shit because you can just change them whenever you want.

>>384561629
It's fast-paced and edgy

>>384561629
What stupid bait thread

>>384564749
The bosses in Bloodborne are genuinely difficult as well. They don't need gank squads to make it hard.

>>384564701
Eh, so am I primarily.
Bought a PS4 Pro last year and I liked it a lot, Bloodborne is probably the best game I've played in a few years, Nioh was great, Wipeout is some great nostalgic fun. Even liked TLoU.
Still kinda wish there were more games for it, but what is there is really good.

>>384564630
>>384564748
Oh come on, seriously? Like you can't get close to the exact same benefits in the chalice dungeons....

>>384564975
You can't when everything one or two shots you.
Regain won't help you if a single hit either outright kills you or takes away 90% of your health.

>>384564852
Ironically the one gank boss fight in the whatever Woods are easy as fuck if you know what you're doing but that's the first thing you hear everybody complain about.

Souls casuals also complain about the gank fight in Sunken King in 2, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of /v/ being shit at games.

>>384564975
You can't. Chalice dungeons are harder than any area in any souls game.

>>384564886
Great game, isn't it?

>Still kinda wish there were more games for it, but what is there is really good.
Here's some suggestions:
>Gravity Rush 1
>Gravity Rush 2
>Persona 5
>Uncharted 4
>Salt and Sanctuary

>>384565104
You forgot Nioh and Yakuza.

>>384564437
>both easier than the nameless king or lady frieda
What did he mean by this

>>384564530
>hardest game
>when parry is an i win button
Hardest is dark souls 2

>>384565073
>Souls casuals also complain about the gank fight in Sunken King in 2, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of /v/ being shit at games.
I've cleared both before, I just dislike gank squads when they're poorly designed. The Sunken Crown gank squad are lazy and uninteresting. I'd prefer an interesting, yet difficult fight like Ludwig.

Also, DS2 relied on gank squads too many times.

>>384565152
Nioh ended up being really good. I recommend to anyone who likes the Souls formula. I also really dig the historical fiction kind of story and setting they told.

>>384565192
>Chalice dungeons
>Old hunters
Name any other part of the souls series harder than these.

>>384565267
I already said dark souls 2
Also old hunters? Really? Maria is especially weak to parry

>>384565152
He already played Nioh, but definitely Yakuza. I think he'll love that. It's one of my favorites.

>>384565192
Personally disagree. The two BB ones I linked are much more fast paced and harder to predict.

Also, parrying isn't easy, especially in fast pace fights (most of them). And parrying isn't limited.

>>384561629
Man, I played every Souls game and Bloodborne and to be honest senpai only Bloodborne felt quite difficult (still not hard enough, difficulty meme in Souls games are bullshit).

>>384561629
>Better music with actual instruments (no midi/samples like DkS3), better atmosphere, better enemies, better combat, better weapons, tricking > battle arts, better BS system, has legitimate cross-zone connectivity unlike DkS3, better narrative that concludes satisfyingly after 1 game and DLC, Kin/Beast > Dragon, actually feels unique, etc.

There are also some inconsistencies with your own points, such as both games are casual combat-wise but Bloodborne's universally considered funner. Bloodborne has much more variety in it's immediate combat due to overall better movesets, better space control, and stance changes that do absurdly high damage.
Finally, both games have pretty straight mechanics... There's nothing in Dark Souls 3 that felt particularly nuanced to me.

The only way I felt Dark Souls 3 was a better game was there weren't as many stinker bosses compared to BB, but that being said they were thematically uninteresting.

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>>384565267

>>384565306
There is nothing harder than the Chalices in Souls. Absolutely nothing. If you couldn't summon for them then many people would never even be able to complete the story Chalices.

Very simple.

bloodborne felt fresh and das3 felt like a bloodborne dlc gone wrong.

From should be forced to only make new ips.

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For me personally, it's that Bloodborne is more unique. Dark Souls 3's biggest problem is that it has very few things that are it's own. Almost everything from levels, enemies, bosses and mechanics are inspired by previous games. Like can you name anything that's unique to Dark Souls 3, and was never done before in any other souls game? Weapon arts is the only thing that come to mind.

That's why I prefer BB over DS3.

>>384565314
>parrying isn't easy
Is this your first souls game?

>>384565306
Dark Souls 2 for sure is not harder than depth 5 chalice dungeons. I can level with you on Old Hunters.

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>>384565267
What now

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>>384565359
>absolutely nothing
HUUUHH

>>384565350
They're a joke compared to even hotdog...

It is easier, but people don't play DaS for the difficulty. They play it for the challenge, which Bloodborne still has, and the ludo-narrative which Bloodborne does particularly well. I think this is what people mean when they meme 'kino' so hard, it tells it's story and explores the subtext through gameplay perfectly.

das 3 had absolutely horrible weapon balance for a long time and completely ruined my first playthrough.

>>384565463
Dark Souls is a lot easier. I could never hope to solo these faggots a few years ago, but then after getting much more Bloodborne, Nioh, and Dark Souls 3 under my belt I went back and spanked their asses.

>>384565468
Really? Explain how. 3 full health bars and a mulitphase fight with the enemy healing and turning invisible and a fight with multiples as well

>>384565437
>>384565463
Those would be considered some of the easier bosses in Chalice dungeons. Most people recommend to stay the hell away from the depth 5s until you're level 90 - 100. No other game is that difficult at that level.

>>384565563
Hotdog instakills you with everything.

>>384565543
>after I became more experienced it was easy
Well duh. It's still harder than anything in bloodborne, especially when you go replay the game

>>384565376
>bloodborne felt fresh and das3 felt like a bloodborne dlc gone wrong.

Pretty much this, I liked dark souls 3 but its my least played soulsgame. It tries to be BB-lite and "borrows" freely from BB but since its a slower game it feels like cheapshots, not
challenging.

>>384565590
No it doesn't. I survived his charge attack well enough

>>384565580
The difficulty in the chalice dungeons are entirely artificial. with enough grinding it becomes easy as fuck as all the bosses in there have shit and easily predictable movesets

>>384565608
It's not.

>>384565668
Defiled Hotdog.

>>384565650
I played DS2 more than DS3 by a longshot

>>384565563
Hotdog can't be parried and hits way harder. Also, he has many more option-select strings that legit kill you from full health.
Finally, he's a multiphase fight too.

>>384565104
>>384565152
Thanks for the sugestions, I'll try Gravity Rush and maybe Yakuza 0 - am I missing a lot if I haven't played it the others?
Uncharted is on the radar too, but I'm not sure. I liked TLoU for the story and characters, but UC looks similar to the new Tomb Raiders, which I hated.
Persona isn't really my cup of coffee.

>>384565692
Oh the defiled version. If his hitboxes don't glitch out dodging is simple

>>384565716
I know he is multiphase but keeping track of one opponent is way harder than noticing 2. Also the fire breath of the father can also 1-hit you, and they also have more health and more variation in moveset so it becomes harder to predict and dodge

>>384565580
and getting to 90-100 only takes a quarter of the time it would in DS

>>384565468
Hotdog isn't really that hard though, he only has a couple attacks to memorize. If you stay in front of him it's actually a pretty easy fight, it all boils down to memorizing a few patterns so he doesn't one shot you.

>>384565828
>way harder
Way easier*

>>384565695
me 2

>>384565758
Yakuza 0 is the first game in the time line and the first game (second in the timeline) is being released, remade in August. Yakuza 0 stands on it's own and you'll love it regardless.

Also, keep in mind that GR1 is a Vita port, but GR2 was made for the PS4. So GR2 is better in every way.

Uncharted isn't like Tomb Raider, but I'd recommend you play the HD collection if you haven't played the first 3.

>>384561629
Yes. BB only feels harder when you come from the Dark Souls series and try to play it the same way.

Then you learn to spam R1 and things get much easier.

BloodBone is a fun game

>>384565894
As bad as DS2 is, it had a lot of variety with weapons and fashion. That and it's the biggest Souls game, at least from my point of view.

I have a love hate relationship with the game.

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>>384565894
>>384565695

>>384564748
Its always painfully easy to tell the peacocks who have never even played the game. Using the rally mechanic as an example for why the game is "casualised" is a bad joke and every single one of these retards genuinely seems to think that youre gaining health back every time you hit an enemy at any time

>>384565668
Chalice dungeons are the exact definition of real difficulty since all the enemies in the deeper ones are legitimately dangerous and they even have unique enemies. The bosses are also not easy at all - the hardest bosses in the game are found in the chalices.

I'm beginning to think you didn't even play this game.

>>384565828
Hotdog does more damage, has 1-shots that can actually hit you, and can't be parried.
Friede took me 4 attempts. Hotdog was closer to a dozen, but to each their own. There are still harder things anyways, like tons of FRC bosses if you try their hand at them that are much worse than Hotdog or Friede.

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>>384561629
Sorry, DaS3 is not even worth a serious discussion. We already went over this topic a year ago. It's in the graveyard now. Done. Finito.

Bloodborne is the superior game, sorry. This is not even funny anymore, just stop.

>>384566006
It's a shame they fucked up certain aspects of the game design, because other than that, it's actually not a terrible game.

>>384566013
I think everyone that plays BB rarely uses the recover mechanic. I play it safe and most of the times, it's stupid to do it on bosses.

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>>384565894
>>384566006
Still think 3 is the weakest.

>>384565865
M8 grinding to a crazy level in the darkwood basin only takes like 2 hours. Sure playing the regular game in BB lets you level up faster, but stats in BB, besides vitality ironically, aren't really that huge a deal. Gems make much more of a difference.

>>384565879
Yeah, that's harder than Friede where you're never really in danger and can blunder through the fight without knowing it. That's what I did.

>>384561629
Dark Souls 2 is the best in the series, the best replay, the best build, the best PVP, the map is not linear, and the level design is actually interesting, the action design is meaningful, unlike the BB And DS3 you just fucking send R1 spam to win PVP. BB and DS3 are the worst

>cool as fuck weapons
>dat setting and atmosphere
>fashionborne is god tier
>combat mechanics are different and enjoyable
>enemies and bosses are interesting

i like dark souls 3 just fine. i think for only a couple playthroughs, bloodborne has the edge. anything further and 3 pulls ahead due to magic/weapon variety to explore.

>>384566157
I hate when people use decent game like das2 for the bait posts like this

>>384566148
In retrospect he did take me more tries than Friede, so I guess you're correct in the end.
Still, nothing comes close to cursed Headless Bloodletting beast for me.

>>384566018
The bosses are only hard due to buffed damage and health. In the base game they are not difficult at all. Case in point the old one (Ersomething)

>>384566148
It really isn't. His attack patterns are easy as fuck to memorize. If you have big trouble with him it means you aren't memorizing the tells fast enough

>>384565898
Thanks again, I'll give them a try.

>>384566201
I agree with you on everything except the fashion. I felt like there werent enough options, and many of them looked pretty similar.

>>384566316
I hated how 80% of armors clip through the sheath on LHB

>>384566282
Not true. For example the abhorrent beast is easily the hardest boss in the game and even generics like the undead giants are really dangerous since a fair amount of their attacks take like 80% health off a character with 50 vit.

>>384566282
Still harder than Friede who you can spam parry against and BS with impunity. Took me and >>384566262 more attempts, literally 2v1 nigga'.

>>384566315
Hope you enjoy them!

>>384566404
I don't even think friede is hard, wtf you talking about? Hotdog isn't difficult and neither is frieda. The hardest souls fight are invasions and thus DaS1 is the hardest due to your estus chug

>>384566282
>His attack patterns are easy as fuck to memorize
And Friedes aren't?
First phase is literally a joke, second phase you only really have to care about Ariandel with his 7 years long windups and the occasional frost blast that's also telegraphed as hell.
Third phase is the only challenging one, but even there a lot of her combos are pretty easy to dodge and unless you stumble into one of the few super heavy attacks you only get hit for a little bit.

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On the topic of dark souls 3, was anyone else disappointed in Yhorm and Aldrich? They could have been so much better, and so much more unique. But instead they're just callbacks. I would have preferred to fight a giant devouring blob rather than buffed up Gwyndolin.

>>384561629
>DS3 is harder so it's better
Retard.
DS3 was BB's bastard offspring that tried to be like it's daddy but failed.
It had the aggressive enemies of BB without a compensatory mechanic for regaining health through attacking.
Result being that it forced a more boring, passive playstyle.

>>384566519
>DkS1 invasions.
>Walk up for a r1-mash infinite them once.
wat? the PBWT invasions in DeS are way harder, easily. And the Crow of Cainhurst is easily the hardest NPC enemy in the series.

>>384566607
I was disappointed in the game as a whole.
It plays pretty good, but it no longer has the sense of mystery and discovery the others do.

>>384566676
more like
>get one hit backstabbed by a jumping naked opponent

Also crow of cainhurst is just parry parry parry. Easy as fuck.

Anybody here using a PS4 with a 2560x1440 monitor?
Is it too blurry?

>>384566705
Pretty much. I enjoyed my first playthrough of dark souls 3, but it is my least replayed souls game. I've only gone through the DLC's once, even though I really enjoyed the Ringed City.

>>384566753
There's no Dark Souls 1 NPC or NPC invader that comes close BP satsuki, BP selena, BP Garl, or Crow...
Unless you're talking about PvP, than I'm afraid you're literally retarded.

Someone explain to me right now why these chalice dungeons are so difficult.

Because as long as it's related to just getting good at dodging or learning patterns then.....Gitgud?

>>384566863
>your argument BTFO's mine
>you're retarded
Bloodborne babbies everyone

>>384561629
I wouldn't say BB is easier than DS3, I first tried like all but 2 bosses on DS3

Meanwhile Orphan raped me like 40 times

>>384566929
So you're legitimately talking about PvP? Jesus Christ you're 100% inoperably retarded. Also, you legit suck at PvP looks like too. I've won about 95% of every invasion and duel, and can't say I have a similar winrate against many bosses.

>>384567052
>I've won 95%
>in dark souls 1
HAH, you don't have t lie at all bloodbornebaby

Also why does PvP in bloodborne suck so bad

>>384565437
Why do people think the abyss watchers are hard? I beat them second try and was dissapointed as hell.
All you had to do was wait for the third guy to spawn and kill the boss for you and the second phase was just rolling right once to dodge everything.

>>384566676
You can kill crow just by backtracing to the cathedral doors, he can't dodge for shit in the small corridor and you can parry or abuse Ebrietas easy
Not the anon you argue with and disagree with him on many cases, but no npc harder than das2 invaders
Oh, and old hunters npc with boomhammer(the one with red eyes) is far harder than crow

>>384567141
>He doesn't know.
I have. I've probably won closer to 98%. You're talking to the guy that legit solved poise BPs first, and discovered toggle escape, toggle cast, etc. invented parrying in PvP, invented the DkS1 metagame, and showcased mechanics of the game you aren't even aware of today (like upgrade level increasing hit-stun), invented dead angle, etc, since Demon's Souls and my shit is still out thwre with the date on it.

>easier
>more forgiving, casual combat
This just depends on which games you've played first
I played Dark Souls first but don't delude yourself, that game is really easy compared to its successors, you were just used to the formula when you played the others

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>>384566889
they're meant for challenge and exploring with friends
If you want to play it for fun solo then take it slow.Its much more enjoyable that way. at least for me it was

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>>384561629
I think DS3 and Bloodborne are the two best titles in the (kind of) series. Bosses are fun and memorable unlike 95% of bosses from dks2, music is the second best in the series, most areas look amazing and level design is up there with bloodborne for best in the series (world connectivity is still not on DS1 level)

>>384566889
Because trash mobs can easily kill you in 2-3 hits and the bosses can easily 1 or 2 shot you on the lower depths, even with high vitality.

>>384561629
>easier
nope
>more forgiving, casual combat
nigger, DS3 is probably the easiest, the only thing I found remotely hard was Nameless King.
>much more simplified character build system, you don't have to think/make choices as much
And that's bad? It should only worry you if you like PvP, and it's garbage in both games.
>a lot less meta gameplay when it comes to playstyle/stats
It doesn't matter that much when DS3 is so linear and has so many restrictions.
>less nuanced gameplay mechanics in general, which feeds into both points above
You are being redundant here, DS3 may have more builds but it barely matters when almost every weapon feels the same and the only differenciation between them is a little gimmick attack. It's just not fun.

I played DS3 before BB and honestly think Bloodborne it's a much better game. But then again, I don't really like that much PvP, so I don't think builds are a big deal. Either way, PvP in those games is garbage compared to DS1 and 2.

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>>384567964
>ds3
>memorable bosses
what?
>>384566889
They here for people to have fun, not to handhold and suck your dick like 90% of dark souls 3

>>384566108
>I think everyone that plays BB rarely uses the recover mechanic. I play it safe and most of the times, it's stupid to do it on bosses.

Actually it's a pretty good mechanic and it works really well if you know your enemy's moveset, for example, with human bosses like Gascoigne or Shadows of Yharnam works like a charm, but when a boss hits you like a truck sometimes you can barely benefit from their positioning and save some vials.
In the last case is more lika a damage control technique.

What makes Souls truly special to me is the sense of discovery and mystery. Bloodborne, being something relatively new and fresh, capitalized on this. DaS3 went the total opposite way, spending screentime better spent establishing its own place on references and callbacks. I still think that DaS3 is a fantastic game, it's just lacking that cherry on top to keep me invested and thinking about the game long after it's done.

>>384566108
I actually kind of went crazy with the rally mechanic to the point where I got myself killed to stupid shit during my first few hours of DaS3, relearning to play conservatively. I still swing at dying corpses out of habit.

>>384566607
I mean, Aldrich plays pretty uniquely as a boss. Almost feels like it would be from a different series, with dodging ranged attack being the mainstay.

>>384570004
Are you serious?
Dark Lurker
Gayprince from the first game
Both did mage bosses without much melee better

>>384562408
The thing is that there are only 5-6 true trick weapons with two unique movesets. The reste has either juste a glorified buff mode, a trick move or use thé vanilla sword moveset. You have to but thé dlc to get the most interesting ones which means mid game if you are good. Mate game if you are bad.

>>384562772
There are hidden def stats, hidden attack stats. You can bypass any difficulté by leveling without even putting your points in a meaningful way.

>PCFags shit over Bloodborne for 6 weapons, worthless stats, "gray" palette, focus on action, edginess and linearity as their excuses to why the game isn't good
>Dark Souls 3 is saturated with all these supposed "flaws"
>PCFags convinced they know everything Bloodborne had to offer because they played a game with reused content from it
Whenever somebody praises DS3 over Bloodborne its a sure sign they have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

>>384570761
Those are in Dark Souls 3 as well though. They're just not hidden. Skilling dex, str, int, or fth gives you extra defense.

Oh, hi!

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>replying seriously to a bait thread

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>>384571043
Forgot pic

>>384571094
Worst room.

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Because the weapons were fun as fuck to use.

>>384571232
>open door next to spawn lamp
>1000000 spiders swarm you
>door stays open

>>384571094
TRIGGERED
hate that fucking room

>>384571094
This shit here is harder than every boss.

>>384565331
I get mad every tome i sée people praising BBs soundtrack. The instruments are good, but thé compositions are vert lackluster felt like the composer didnt know at all what hé was composing for. Beyond the wow effect that Every orchestra has, bbs tracks are vert samey, répétitive ans don t fit a game in which thé rare tracks must be différent to put an emphasis of thé différent steps of your journée. The cleric beast track, the blood starved beast tracks didn t teach me anything about thé bosses excepting that they are bis baddies. And i have thé dame problèmes with most of thé tracks of thé vanilla game. If you cared even a little avout musicale, orchestra wouldn't fool you

>>384571094
>That one area where you release a horde of them near the entrance and have to run around like a madman while avoiding them to get to the summoner.

>>384571463
And that fucking door stays open. Idling after doing something else during loading? Not anymore, bitch,

>>384571428
Buy a new keyboard. I'm with you on ome points though. It's mostly bombast to fool you into thinking it's well composed. It's a problem many games with orchestral scores have. Though I like Gascoigne's theme a lot.

>>384570917
It s way more obvious un BB. I tried on my first run to get the furthest I could go with my SL38 un thé chalice Dungeons and the balance is absolutely awful even with adaptés weaponry. Meanwhile, I béat DS3 with its dlc with a Sl66 and it felt fair. BB is completely dishonest with thé damage you take and the damage you make.

>>384572021
Defenses/Offences are tied to your SL to avoid twinking. I thought this was obvious.

>tfw you get Bloodborne 1.5 years after it came out and jump in without guides
I don't know why, but I think that I instinctively gravitated towards the memest of weapon combos, that being Chikage+Evelyn

I don't regret it, fighting Maria was like fighting a literal better version of my own build.

>>384572376
Bloodtinge is love, Bloodtinge is life. 25/25/50 reks anything.

DaS3 just feels like BB without the core mechanics to make any of it feel good to play.

>>384561629
BB is also more fun.

>>384572146
Twinking was never a problem in PvE. If it is for PvP, they just had to balance it differently. But considering that I beat Manus with a Sl4 bandit starting class and that even Manus couldn't kill you with one hit DS1, BB is a real letdown balance wise. You can't do shit without breaking either breaking the game or constantly fighting hp sponge bosses able to kill you with any move.

>>384572376
>he didn't spend the entire game in love with the Hunter's Axe
Nothing else compares.

>>384572021
Are you French, Italian, or Hispanic by any chance? There's a whole lot of "è's" in that paragraph.

>>384561956
I'd agree with you if that was the case, but the combat is woefully simplistic as it is and the game actually gets easier the further you go through it for the most par, at least boss wise.

>>384572995
Just switched to my computer, I can't disable the spell check for some reason. But yes I'm french.

>>384571946
>>384571428

What? Most of the songs aren't even all that bombastic, BBs soundtrack is the most atmospheric next to Demon's Souls.

The most bombastic songs like Ludwig, Living Failures and Laurence are all good too. I'd say the worst is Lady Maria's.

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>>384572978
>he wasn't a supreme gentleman bashing savages over the head with the threaded cane

When it comes to Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 it's ok to prefer one over the other but at least we can all agree that Dark Souls 2 is utter shit.

Here's the thing, I think Dark Souls 3 is the best Souls game by far but it's still the one I enjoyed least because I'm so burned out on the series.

>>384562903
>DS3 was my first souls
Opinions of underage retards don't really matter though

>>384565206
>I've cleared both before, I just dislike gank squads when they're poorly designed. The Sunken Crown gank squad are lazy and uninteresting. I'd prefer an interesting, yet difficult fight like Ludwig.

These particular Souls 2 DLC fights are intended to be played with summons, that's the whole point of having a special area prior to them that's specifically marked to let anyone offer themselves and having everything set up so that a solo player is guaranteed to get ganked.

I destroyed Ludwig's second stage first time by rallying the fuck out of him relentlessly.

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>>384561629
lower fps makes for a better experience, its like watching movies when you get below 30

>>384561629
its compleatly opposite.

>>384565401
>Weapon arts is the only thing that come to mind.

Yes, and it's one thing I like about it over BB, as I find weapon arts more interesting than trick weapons.

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>>384573390
>It's okay to prefer dark souls 3 over bloodborne
>dark souls 2 is shit
No, just no

>>384565206
>The Sunken Crown gank squad are lazy and uninteresting
>Map is ideal to fight agaist multiple opponents
>All have different style in fight
>You could actually poison them or destroy weapon, just like with real players

>>384573325
The problem with BB's soundtrack is that it uses some classic orchestra tricks and never becomes original nor tied with the story itself. Excepting for Laurence's theme which is tied to Amelia's theme and all the AYYLMAOS having an instrumental base in common, you could almost swap any track and the game wouldn't feel weird. That's pretty much why the 7-8 Chalice dungeon bosses share three tracks Only the DLC's soundtrack is worth a damn, because Yuka Kitamura seems to have been in charge.

>>384566246
I don't consider DaS2 my favorite, but I don't disagree with him on most respects. Mechanically it is superior to the rest of the games in so many ways and its structure can meaningfully be claimed to be the most open.

>>384561629
>casual combat
Already stopped reading.

>>384567641
you dont know what is hard bedore you have tried ctr dungeons. thre ia atill great ones blood in those dungeons that nobody have found.

>>384573593
Don't talk to me bandwagoner trash, I've been playing Souls since '09 with Demon's, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>384573912
Look at what the fuck you're about to post you fat fingering phoneposter retard

>>384561629
>easier
>more forgiving, casual combat
I can't believe it's not bait

>>384561629
My problem with BB was the lack of builds and terrible pvp. People will defend having fewer trick weapons instead of a lot of weapons of the same category, however the lack of weapons killed the possibility of doing multiple builds. The pvp was bad and got stale pretty fast with so little variability and community jumped off. It is a great game on the first playthrough tho.

>>384574117
My sides
You are obviously a pc kid who started when FROM decided to answer petiton

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Here's a pastebin that ranks all the bosses in the series by how much health they have.
https://pastebin.com/VNeSpJgC
Hope that clears things up.

>>384575034
This isn't exactly a fair comparison because you can do a whole lot of DPS in Bloodborne. Each hit late-game deals comparatively huge damage even 1H, all but the heaviest weapons attack very quickly, and a skilled player rarely has to stop attacking at all. Defiled Watchdog also takes obscene damage once you've broken its armor.

>>384575034
>hotdog is the beefiest boss in the series

>>384575034
>25:Ball and Chain Undead Giant 12768 HP

Everything that is wrong with BB and the chalice dungeons

>>384562408
DS3 has more movesets plus other playstyle like Pyromancy and magic and shields and shit

>>384575432
I know, but some of the Bloodborne lategame/chalice dungeon bosses still have obscene amounts of health. Take defiled Amygdala for instance. You only get to attack it after certain attacks, and one fuckup means death.

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>>384575773
God, that boss is such a chode.
>Hey Jim, should we maybe give our lategame boss an interesting and unpredictable moveset to make him harder?
>Nah, give him a few basic swipes that have deceptively long range
>And give him a shitfuckload of health
>And near infinite poise
>And a fast AoE that looks like it only hits a small area in front of him, but actually covers like half the fucking arena
>Oh, and make sure every attack one-shots you
>Fucking
>Brilliant

>>384561629
has faster paced combat, more variety with weapon movesets, less of an emphasis on defensive play and rewards proper aggressive play. i.e. it's more fun

>>384575907
>das3
> playstyle like Pyromancy and magic
God, I hate dark souls 3 fans
Dark souls 2 and 1 had pyromancy and magic playstyles, and des had magic playstyle
Even fucking bloodborne had tools that were good enough to kill some bosses on their own
DaS3 had only melee bullshit that you could sometime enchanche with magic and pyromancy attacks

>>384576268
>He has never experienced the joy that is two-shotting the pontiff beasts with Forbidden Sun
I pity the sorry fool.

>>384576268
You didn't try hard enough. I've got a wizard character on DaS3 and beat the game with magic only. Sure the start was quite hard and even the crystal sage killed me 3-4 times, but your damage ramping up like crazy after getting so much shit was very rewarding.

People should try to stick to a playstile instead of going back to easier means

>>384574287
>DaS2 fags
The only reason you can spout your shitty opinion about Dark Souls 2 being a shit game is because I introduced you to the series, be grateful you little shit.

>>384561629
>easier
>more forgiving, casual combat
>much more simplified character build system, you don't have to think/make choices as much
>a lot less meta gameplay when it comes to playstyle/stats
>less nuanced gameplay mechanics in general, which feeds into both points above

these aren't bad things. bloodborne focused on what a lot of us enjoyed in DeS and DaS 1 i.e atmosphere and world building, while 2 and 3 focused more on making bosses difficult and the online aspect

>>384577432
didn't you get the memo? souls games are about being hardcore.

>>384565463
>Basic crowd control the boss
>Harder then anything in the challice
Fuck off

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>>384561629
Only young padawans prefer BB to DS3. Mature audience like me choose DS3 over BB any time since it has best bosses with DEEP LORE, best graphics, weapons and 60 fps bebe

>>384564886
> Not Witcher 3
shit teisto, plebbu

>>384561629
Sure it's a somewhat casualized dark souls but the combat centric play is fun and they do a really great job of capturing the lovecraftian atnosphere. It really feels like a slow descent into madness.

I thought dark souls 3 got unessecarily shit on and was a great game but bloodborne is objectively better overall.

DS1 > BB > DeS > DS3 > DS2 (admittedly only beat all expansion of DS3 though)