Persona 5 >A story about teen rebels who want to expose the

>>384534529

B-but it has the best story in the Persona franchise!

>>384535281
>Has the best story

Highly debateable. A pseudo-science "What if we could alter reality with the collective unconscience" story has been done to death in JRPGs already. Nothing in it was remotely interesting or original, and once jun stopped being JOKER the whole "Story" became what ifs and easily predictable.

Later itterations were at least original for the whole highschool thing, at least it coined the social linking as a staple for the series rather than it just being a generic JRPG that quite literally plays itself.

what happens to hitler after you defeat him?

>>384536103
You don't. he's the ancient evil in disguise

What happens in the first Persona?

>>384536245
Nothing. It's literally the most boring dungeon crawler in existence.

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>>384534529
>Cherrypicking and creating a strawman for a single battle for 2 while describing the overarching plot
This is hardly worth an (OP).

>didnt play persona 2 duology

Thats not even kind of the plot. Its

Two near omnipotent beings bet on the potential of humanity. Certain humans are destined to go through an ordeal. Rumours become reality, eventually leading to the big bad and the party fighting eachother through the power of social engineering. Hitler is just one of many tools nyarlyathotep uses. Thats just innocent sin, and a condensed summary

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>japanese game/anime
>germans are the good guys

>>384536423
overarching plot of the others*

>>384536504
>Didn't play the japanese one

No shit. If they want me to play it they'll localize it.

>>384536657
Its got a translation for psx and a legitimate psp release you fucking moran

>>384536423
>A single battle

Dude, this was the fucking plot from the TV broadcast in Kuzonoah all the way to the fucking end. Don't even.

>>384536245
>A story about a group of teenagers who play a fortune-telling game and gain powers to fight either a research facility that's altering the reality of the town or the powerful spirit haunting a theatrical mask

>>384536557
The wrong side won WWII.

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>>384535784
>Highly debateable.

No. No it's not. It sort of takes that prize by virtue of actually existing as a story.

Modern persona doesn't have stories. It has themes, sure. It has concepts out the ass. But it doesn't have stories.

>>384536245

A greedy business man drills a hole into the subconscious mind of a young autistic girl leashing a demonic hellscape on Japan.

Thats not even the plot but P2 has its fair share of problems. The biggest offender is dungeons that are even more boring and generic than fucking Tartarus.

>Xibalba rises
>Go to the 4 shrines and get the skulls
>Literally the same exact dungeon recolored 4 times for filler.

>>384536743
Nope you are just literally retarded and couldnt grasp the plot to a fucking JRPG lmao

I summarized it correctly above

>>384536961
>>Literally the same exact dungeon recolored 4 times for filler.

Because Persona 3 and 4 are FAMOUS for creative dungeon design

>>384537175
Procedurally created dungeons are so much better than the same exact thing repeated four times it's not even funny.

>>384536948
No P2EP-5 still have stories even if they aren't as good as IS.

>>384537284
The biggest issue with p2 imo is the lack of difficulty. Needed higher SP costs on fusion spells

>>384537175
3 and 4 actually had reasons to explore. 2's dungeons are literally hallways and co-oridoors with no sense of direction, and not to mention no resting points, 3 and 4 at least let you escape when needed, but 2? You'll be stuck for 20 something floors until you can restock.

>>384534529
The point is that all of the crazy nonsense in P2 ultimately doesn't matter and it comes down to a contest of will between the party and Nyarly. Hitler even gave you the last crystal skull because it's meaningless.

>>384534529
>true holy lance
Why. It's obvious he's referring to the Spear of Destiny. Are the translators that clueless?

>>384537434
Almost all the dungeons are short in p2, you dont need resting points. Not sure of you are misremembering or something. Only Xibalba was that shitty

>>384537515
Yes. The fan translation is shit. They rewrite ginko to be an actual whore rather than a tease.

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>>384536948
>Modern persona doesn't have stories.

>>384536948
P3 P4 and P5 all had stories you moron.

>>384534529
they couldnt top hitler

>>384536245
>Group of teenagers play a bloody mary type game, pass out, talk to a god and then wake up with powers to summon fucking spirits while one dude tries to make himself into a god but fucks up and datamines a girl's mind creating a another universe and releasing a metric fuck ton of demons

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>>384536948
>Modern persona doesn't have stories.

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>>384538691
> to defeat giant religious thing who won't appear until the very end of the game and is treated more like some random force of nature than an actual fucking character

You wot mate?

>Persona 5
>Long nosed call-back man who has very little actual story relevance grants silent protagonist the power of friendship to defeat giant religious thing who won't appear until the very end of the game and is treated more like some random force of nature than an actual fucking character who wants to take the free will of everyone on earth because we don't think for ourselves or something

So you didn't play it. Gotcha.

>Its literally hitler

Wow... That is not okay. If you're going to portray a hated genocidal maniac you're supposed to make it a sublt reference, not outright. People get offended by this stuff and rightfully so.

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>>384534529
You alright there, OP?

>>384534529
If they remade this game with the P5 engine and Trump instead of Hitler I would buy twice

lmao, not even a (You)
Stop posting anytime, vedditor
Shit bait

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>>384536245
Crab running at maximum speed.

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>Persona 5 is worse than Persona 2
>Ergo
>Shido is actually worse than Hitler

>>384541604
>Using lmao unironically
>Calling anyone else a redditor

>>384541724
Well Ryuji<<<Eikichi, but Ann is not a slut. Autistic and Autistic+Gay is not really comparable though

>>384534529
>Persona 5
>>Dude we need to beat the bad guys with the power of heart and they will change there ways.
>Persona 4
>>we need to stop a killer from killing people in the tv!
>Persona 3
>>your the chosen one
>Persona 2
>>a story about a group of friends coming together after so many year of separation to stop and save a friend from a ancient evil that brings the crazy imagination of humanity into reality.

>>384542005
fixed

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>>384541950
>Best character in the game
>Only party member you can't romance
What did Atlus mean by this?

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>>384534529
>>384542005
You forgot the best one
>Persona 1
>>a group of friends come together to help a sad, lonely girl get over her psychological issues
It's just such a simple and sweet story under a dark atmosphere, I love it.

>>384542421
o yea

Persona
>> a group of kids get trapped in a building cause a stupid bitch won't let go when her friends try to pillow her

Chad Narukami > Any other persona shitter

He is the BEST character and any other opinion is wrong, just accept the thundercock faggots.

>>384534529
Persona 5
>A group of high schoolers take on a "god" created by humanities will
Persona 4
> A group of high schoolers take on a "god" that thinks it knows what humanities will is
Persona 3
> A group of high schoolers take on a "god" created by humanities will
Persona 2
>A group of friends try to take on a god that is playing 5D Chess and could care less about what humanity wants
Persona 1
>A group of high schoolers take on the ultimate manifestation of their friends nihilism and depression

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>>384542665
For fuck sake, the P4fags are already here, just abandon thread, it's all downhill from here

>>384542005
>Persona 2
>>Dude we got to stop these tentacles from raping reality
>Persona 1
>>We need beat the autism out of this young girl
>SMT if
>>We got to not get localized

>>384542757
>the series

>fucking kill me! don't you fucking faggot just bleed me dry.

>>384542745
cry more p3fag

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>>384542757
If.. is also about another autist too. Hell the Tokyo Revelation OVA with the dude that lets the demons out is probably in the same world

>>384542681
Nyx wasn't created by humanity's will.

>>384542983
Summoning her was though. Erebus only exists because of humanities unconscious desire for death.

>>384542983
You're right, she was created by lazy writers working with the footnotes that Satomi Tadashi left behind when he left Atlus.

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>>384534529
You described every single story wrong, how did you manage to do that?

What about the Arena games op?

>>384534529
The higher in number you go, the less SMT the story gets. This is a fact.

>>384543330
>Blazblu with a persona skin
>Persona games

Good joke.

>>384543420
Have you ever played a BlazBlue game?
Also both of them are canon

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>>384543094
Satomi tadashi is a shit writer, the only thing that saved early persona was the gameplay and designs

>>384543414
>5
>less SMT than 3/4

Um what? It literally brought back the SMT demon summoning and recruitment system.

>>384543489
>story

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Nyraly's kind of a dumbass when you think about it
>Actively helps Tatsuya's group by selling them weapons/equipment over the course of both games
>"Impossible! How could I lose!"

>>384543475
>Both of them are canon
Just like Q right?

>>384543667
No these have an actual story mode
Ultimax had two

>>384543741
>An actual story

Yeah. By Arc:sys. Its no more canon than a bad fanfiction. and thank god.

>>384543827
The stories were written by Atlus though
Arcsys only did the mechanics and gameplay

>>384543741
>>384543330

>Dissidia is a canon Final Fantasy game
>Tales of Versus is a canon Tales of game
>Pokken Tournament is a canon Pokemon game

This is how dumb you sound right now.

>>384543827
Are you legit retarded?

>>384544004
Are you? Aegis' "Sisters" in "the Answer" and "Ultimax" are Atlus shoehorning a bad idea to cash in on. Nobody asked for recolored sisters who all have equally boring and unimaginative personalities. P3 ended at Makoto dying.

>>384543995
The arena games are direct sequels to P4 you fucking moron
The stories are written by Atlus.

>>384543617
>first arc in P3 is about a bumbling group of highschool students with special powers
>first arc in P4 is about a local kid getting kidnapped and feeling bad because she doesn't want to inherit an inn
>first arc in P5 is about a man that abuses his station to carry out his violent and sexual desires on powerless individuals while everyone else turns a blind eye to it

Sure man.

>>384543663
Did he really loose though? I mean the Tatsuya in the current universe could at any moment remember his other self and create a universe destroying paradox.

>>384544127
>Direct sequels
>That conviniently shoehorn in non-related characters for crossover fanservice.

M...hmmm.... Tell me more. tell me how your autism functions.

>>384534529
Persona 2
>A group of teenagers and young adults join together in order to find the truth about a man who has marked them for death and stop rumors from becoming reality.

Dude, Hitler is irrelevant to the plot. It's all about rumors becoming reality, a crime committed by a group of children, and two gods fighting over control of humanity.

>>384544183
No he couldn't. IS Tatsuya is gone for good.

>>384544243
Arena is directly referenced to in the golden ending of persona 4 golden, it's fucking canon

>>384544173
>First arc in P2 is about a Gang member who allegedly kidnaps a fat girl because hes jealous of his rival highschool.

>>384544243
>muh headcanon trumps official games

Wait
There was a Persona 2?
I thought it was one of those weird series that started at 3, like Fallout.

>>384535784
It was a fresh idea at the time of release. And Persona still runs with the collective unconscious shtick. Except now it doesn't bring fantasy to life.

>>384544316
>In the golden ending
Well no shit, Golden isn't canon. Marie doesn't exist.

>>384544429
Golden is canon, retard.

>>384544291
IS Tatsuya is gone but there is still a version in the current universe that must not remember his other self like the rest of the cast did.

>>384544183
No way, IS tatsuya is done and new Tatsuya doesn't even recognize Maya. Nyarly won't win unless he tricks a new cast

>>384544418
2/10 for making me reply. Fuck you.

>>384535784
>A pseudo-science "What if we could alter reality with the collective unconscience" story has been done to death in JRPGs already.
I'm a pleb who wandered into the thread, enlighten me on these because they sound interesting

>>384534529
fuck, I wanna play Persona 2 now

>>384544418
This is true, no one cares about Fallout 1 and 2, it's the same case here

No social links = in the fucking trash

>>384544542
All of the Xeno series. Gears, Saga and Blade.

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>>384544429
>golden isn't cannon
>marie doesn't exist
o sweet summer child

>>384544508
EP Tatsuya literally can't remember.

>>384536557
>american game/cartoon
>every german to ever exist is a mustache twirling uber-nazi

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>>384544584
>xenoblade
>altering reality with the mind
what the fuck, did we play the same game

>>384544183
Well considering that apparently hasn't happened yet and the fact that he appeared to be in a lot of agony when died, as of April 2017, it still counts as him losing in my book.

>>384544584
Xenogears has absolutely nothing to do with with that.

>>384544583
The problem is that PErsona 3 Onward defines itself as something unique, it stands out among other JRPGs like how Pokemon does.

P1/P2 are just straightforward JRPGs. Theres nothing that sets them apart from other major turn based JRPGs. No press-turn, no phases of the moon like most Megami games, its just in a weirdly safe place that gains little to no attention because its so uninspired and bland. Its not a bad game, but why play it when there are millions like it with more acclaim and recognition?

>>384544892
I'd argue Innocent Sin is a bad game.

>>384544892
Because some faggots can't comprehend that maybe some players actually like Social link stuff. They say it makes the newer games inferior but they're just being contrarian faggots

>>384544875
>>384544724
>Gears
Play the end again. Gears and Saga both have to do with the Zohars and UDO which is literally the collective consicence personified.
>Blade
Alvis is literally Computer UDO. Monado shapes the world with the thoughts and wills of the one who controls it.

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>>384544418

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>>384541535
Being this much of a fag

>>384536948
>Modern persona doesn't have stories.
No fucking seriously, what do you even mean by this?

>>384545129
My guess is hes quantifying lienar progression as a "story" over sitting around in your room and letting days go by until the plot progresses.

>>384544998
U-DO isn't the Wave Existence, and U-DO isn't even humanity's collective consciousness.

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>>384545010
Nigga, what the fuck

>>384544998
>monado shapes the world with the thoughts and will of the one who controls it
that's because it's a tool created by the maker of the new reality, it's not like humanities thoughts pour into the device and shape the world. the one who holds it controls the world, like a crown. It's not even remotely similar to how the collective unconsciousness works

>>384545010
I just had a seizure, im su

>>384544542
Rumors become truth. Effects story and gameplay

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>>384544892
>P1/P2
>uninspired and bland
Holy fuck, that is some fucking horrible taste.

And P1 does have moon phases, did you even play the game?

>>384545010
what does it say

>eraMegaten has a bunch of plotlines you can follow from different entries in the series
>Can have parties composed of demons, Devil Summoners, Demi-Fiend, Persona Users, etc
>Most of them untranslated so I just sit here grinding out the lewd stuff

fucking

>>384545370
Dude, i literally just spent the past 53 hours finishing IS. 7 hours of that was dedicated to just the fucking 4 shrines. The game ahs way too much bloat and unescecary dungeons just to pad out its length. It was a bland experience and Hitler doesn't save it.

>>384545476
Most of the games are translated.

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>>384545339
>>384545434
>>384545260
Uh, sorry sorry sorry, it's the, uh, wrong one, here take this instead

>>384545689
Nope. Not clicking it.

>>384545582
Having padding doesn't mean it's "bland" and "uninspired".
I'd actually say its problems are more narrative ones. You just jump between events violently with no build up at all.

The dungeons and battle system are garbage, too.

>>384545734
it's a jpg you nerd

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>>384534529
wow didnt know 2 had that kickass of a story, is the gameplay better then the newer ones 2?

>>384546068
No

>>384546068
>>384546068
>Is the gameplay better

Do you like leaving a game on auto while your team murders everything with AoE spells and never dies?

>>384545734
>Pure Kino Tier
FO:NV
>Timeless Classic Tier
FO1 and FO2
>Underrated Masterpiece Tier
Fallout Tactics
>Rehashed meme tier
FO3
>Overrated Reddit-core unfinished second half normie trash tier
FO4

>>384542005
Wait... So Persona 2 is just the plot of It?

>>384546068
I mean, on the one hand the gameplay is really cool, it takes the team attack idea from Chrono Trigger/Phantasy Star 4 and really runs with it; there's like 80 or something spell combinations, and by using them you power up the personas used in the spell, so even weak ones can stay relevant for a long time. On the other hand the gameplay mostly boils down to what >>384546216 said. Its at least really fast paced compared to its peers on the PS1 as a result.

>>384546216
>>384546724
That shit works on IS because that game is way too easy, but try doing that shit on EP and you will get your ass handed to you. It actually takes tactics and has some challenging boss fights, especially early on.

>P2 is darker than P3/4/5
>Leave a girl to die burning in a shrine because you didnt want her to leave
>A girls face melts off infront of the whole chool
>Everything with Jun
>Fucking Hitlet and the super Nazis
>Only gets a T rating while others get M

Fucking what, shouldn't it be M for murder alone?

>>384546941
EP is certainly harder but you can still steamroll it with fusion spells assuming you upgrade personas. The main thing is enemies can actually fight back if you don't instantly wipe them out, where as in IS they do fuck all damage even if you don't.