Literally the definition of Anti-fun. Overpowered as fuck. Instantly deletes half the cast with two skills by spamming.
How the fuck does anybody defend him? How has blizz not nerfed him into the ground? He ruins every single game i'm in.
>>384533757
only cuckolds play that game
>>384533757
He's literally considered to be the worst hero in the game
>>384533757
Have you considered the fact most of /v/ doesn't play this shit, because it's casual shit?
>>384533757
He's not considered good at high levels of play and only high levels of play matter.
>>384534441
They play CS-GO though which is even worse. Arena Shooters> Halo shit> Overwatch > Shit >trash > any game with ADS > csgo.
Any game where you slow down to shoot is a bad game.
>the same fags who cried about Roadhog every day are now crying about Junkrat every day
>the dumb kikes at Blizzard will appease them and ruin their game further
>just like they did with the disgusting new heroes who were created due to demands of "different body types and skin colors"
RIP Overwatch
Okay /v/ what about this
Increase grenade travel speed
Increase grenad range
Increase mag size by one
Reduce grenade arc
Reduce grenade damage to 80
>>384533757
>Excuse me while I kill you in two hits while beyond the reach of literally anything you can do, even your ultimate
>>384534138
Are you not one?
>>384534271
Wrong. But he's definitely low in competitive play.
>>384534441
>Have you considered the fact most of /v/ doesn't play this shit, because it's casual shit?
Are you trying to imply /v/ is for hardcore gaymers?
>>384534693
Those sound like buffs. You're completely wrong.
>>384533757
>Junkrat
>overpowered
Junkrat is the worst and most useless character in Overwatch.
You are retarded and should kill yourself.
>>384535120
Damage reduction of 40 isn't enough?
>>384534897
i don't play arena shooter made for kids you fucking cuckold
>>384534856
Fucking this
pharah is annoying as fuck when my dps cant shoot shit. I can handle her with winston and d.va but it's such a pain, especially when she's getting healed by her butt body mercy
it worked OP
>>384534996
>definitely low in competitive play.
That's because he's the worst character in the game.
Blizzard has decided to remove the Defense class, and has charged you of reworking them into Offense heroes. What will you do?
>>384536457
hanzo: unchanged
To anybody claiming he isn't op, fuck off. You have no idea what you're talking about. Probably silver shitters.
I'm plat. I know what i'm talking about. He needs a nerf.
>>384536841
I don't know who you like to play as but here are some suggestions to cancel junkrats
>Zarya
Grenade spam = ez charge laser his shit in
>D.va
Defense matrix, try to corner him
>Zenyatta
Discord, decent aim, keep your distance
>Pharah
Fly above him, grenades can't reach you, shoot him
I hope this helps anon
T. Diamond shitter
>>384537525
faggot literally gets potg every game with a stupid tire. He can't even hurt himself anymore.
>its a non gm talking about "overpowered characters" episode
I wish he was I never see anything but dive comp here with no variation
just shoot the silly freakfuck from afar
>>384538021
>implying only GM's have opinions that are valid
fuck off elitist.
>>384533757
>actually bitching about junkrat
Wow anon, I can't relate. How's silver?
>>384536457
Bastion: Can now walk along any surface, including completely upside down. No other changes needed.
Hanzo: Primary becomes a rapid fire with the player holding secondary to charge like his current normal primary. Scatter arrow now launches from the bow rather than from point of impact. Sonic arrow has its duration and cooldown both cut in half.
Junkrat: Concussion mine damage and cooldown both cut in half. Knockback properly obeys physics for all angles instead of having the player go up regardless of where the mine is placed.
Mei: Can shoot any surface to freeze it for a short period of time. Any character walking along frozen ground has their speed increased but their movement obeys ice physics, while an enemy trying to climb or wall ride on a frozen surface falls off.
Torbjorn: Turret has self-heal and acts as a jump pad.
Widowmaker: Grapple hook goes on cooldown when you land and can be used infinitely until then. Holding the button while you're hooking a surface stops the reel, both allowing you to swing from place to place, as well as adjust your position in mid-air for mid-air snipes like in her cinematic.
>>384538390
>implying people that are shit at the game should have opinions about balance
>>384537715
are you retarded? the tire has a fuckhuge hitbox, 100hp, and you can start damaging the tire as soon as junk presses q which will hurt the junk/kill him too
dont forget that its louder than a freight train so people know exactly where it is at all times
i love junk, i really do but he's just so trash i cant play him in comp unless i want 17 reports up my ass by a butthurt soldier main
>>384536841
>he can't do anything against well positioned snipers
>he can't do anything against a decent pharah
>he literally just feeds zarya
>dva can shield matrix his entire arsenal
>zenyatta
what are you, a tracer main?
>>384539178
This, why the fuck would blizzard balance the game around shitters who can't even take out an underpowered character? Even with constant buffs junkrat isn't a big threat.
>b-b-but riptire is so cheap!!
If only there was an audio que that alerted players to a loud ass buzzing tire bomb. Or blizzard should make it so that if you have decent aim you can negate the fucker completely. Yea I know just wishful thinking
>>384537715
so? they changed it so dva doesn't hurt herself with her self destruct and that does way more damage. did they fix the hop for the tire where if you detonate in air it only does 400 instead of 600?
and you can't do anything against dva's ult unless you have a rein or roadhog, and that basically requires them to make a sacrifice play. with the tire if you have at least basic skills you can pretty much blow it up two seconds after it comes out of cover rendering it totally useless
oh no i died to this guy
he must be op then
>>384533757
>thinking a objectively low tier character is OP
Christ OP, you are special.
>>384539058
you'd have to buff junkrat ever further for him to be barely playable. maybe make his concussion mine like genji's dash where killing the enemy with it resets the cooldown
or even have him be able to do more damage the more he's on fire. or have his tire do 1/2 damage if it's blown up by the enemy. i think even if you combined all that it still wouldn't be enough though
>>384539648
Anyone with a barrier counters D.Va's ult because its damage doesn't bleed through. Even Symmetra can counter it if she times her barrier right. Winston is the most picked tank right now so D.Va basically can't ult at all.
>>384536457
>Bastion is ever so slightly more accurate
>Junkrats grenades travel faster and a little farther, maybe can also do 150 damage on impact if it's not pushing it
>Hanzo is the same
>So is Widowmaker
>Mei doesn't slow your turning speed when you're being frozen, but her gun can penetrate and freeze more than one person at a time now
>Torbs turret gets 50 more HP and fires much faster now
hope I don't mess anything up
>>384534856
L M A O
M A O
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>>384540208
>pic
Holy shit who ever wrote that is retarded
>>384536457
bastion gets wheels in turret form
hanzo can double jump and fire 3 arrows at once
mei can now shoot ice on the ground to slide on it and go fast af
torb realizes that hard vark pays off, thus starting to work out really hard and getting pumped af thus becoming the new reinhardt that can also build turrets
widow uhh fuck widow she's boring as fuck
>>384535327
you play video games. you can't get anymore cucked than that.
80 hours of junkrat on console ama
>>384533757
I think OP just baited you all in order to successfully start an overwatch thread.
Well done.
>>384535327
Video games are made for kids you assburger
>>384533757
this game really does release the cognitive bias in everyone
>>384540849
I'm always looking for an overwatch thread, discussion here is slightly more insightful than what goes in /vg// usually
>>384540808
Regardless, my opinion is still that he's top 3 underated hero's in the game, next to mei and rein as of now
>>384540808
Are you silver like I think you are? How much hate mail do you get? Why are you such a faggot?
Nothing makes me giggle more than putting that bomb in the bear trap and detonating it when the traps triggered
>>384540808
Did you ever play demoman?
>>384540208
>can """do""" all that
>still helpless if a halfway decent Pharah shows up to harass him
>>384541123
I'm 2800 right now, I honestly get just as much hate mail as I do straight love. And this is on Xbox. Being s team player who gets three gold's every match with a gold gun who's cooperative yields nothing but love.
>>384540080
>buff Torb's aimbot turret
Yeah, you fucked up.
>>384534578
>Literally anything worse or more casual than Overwatch
>>384536457
Conc mine is folded into his primary fire. This means his grenades launch people when they explode like his conc mine does. Junkrat can thus also use his own grenades to jump around all over the place. Junkrat's primary has the grenades explode on impact with any surface, while his secondary launches grenades that have a time detonation, like his current primary except they don't explode upon hitting enemies.
>>384540551
Widow no longer has a charge meter or delay on scoping. Enjoy your new quickscope widow meta.
>there are still people unironically playing this mess
>>384541423
Call me when overwatch requires you to stand still to shoot. Widow can sling off of roofs and land headshots in midair. In csgo you stare at a door with the awp and then get a bodyshot kill.
>>384541302
>Junkrat
>countered by two characters
>Pharah
>countered by half the characters
>>384541280
Fuck if I know, my gt has Mewtwo in it though
>Casual game
>caring about balance
The only reason you would ever play overwatch is because you're too much of a shitter to play Quake.
>>384541823
Junkrat is countered by any player capable of moving left or right for half a second.
>>384541720
>there are still people whose sole purpose in life is to go on /v/ and post in threads about topics they don't like
>>384541892
A junkrat that puts themselves in a position like that should lose
>>384533757
>get far away
>shoot
there, killed the junkrat
>>384541965
So you're saying Junrkat should get in close. When he only has 200 HP, no defensive skills or mobility save for his mine, and is hard countered by literally every tank and probably half of every non-tank.
>>384537525
Pretty much this. Pharah hard counters him. If you stay above his concussion mine range, you literally can't get killed by him.
>>384541823
>who is
>Soldier
>Widow
>Mei
>Mcree
>Zarya
>Ana
>>384541876
This.
Only people who have literally never played a video game before can stand that shit.
>>384536457
Well I've got a good idea for Bastion, just swap the ult and shift abilities and then rework speed and damage.
>>384541892
>Pharah is countered by any player capable of moving left or right for half a second.
Fixed. Junkrat's projectile trajectory and hitboxes have actual coverage.
>>384542539
Pharah counters.
Did you misread the post?
>>384542572
But Starcraft is objectively one of the most intense skill based games of all time. The pro scene is STILL going on, and does not rely on teammates.
I think that if they reduced his grenade bounce from 2 to 1 and lowered the damage he would be really good.
>>384542749
No it is not. Starcraft is easy mode as for as strategy games and RTS are concerned.
It is all about who micro-manages the best and exploits the games quirky and shitty 1990s era game mechanics/UI.
Starcraft's main appeal has always been its simplicity. It uses a rock-paper-scissors approach to unit effectiveness.
>>384536171
>That's because he's the worst character in the game.
That's because competitive Overwatch is extremely meta based
>>384533757
Junkrat is easy as fuck to kill. Any of the tanks and hitscan offensive character destroy him at middle range combat. The key at dealing with Junkrat is keep your distance and keep an eye out for those beartraps.
His ultimate is hilariously easy to counter. It is loud as fuck and so predictable where it is coming from.
>>384543190
Have you even played the game? I was the dude who posted the quake picture but jesus lad SCBW is one of the highest skill caps in video game history. Just because you think blizz is a shit company doesnt mean starcraft isnt one of the best competitive games made.
200+ hours of junkrat on PC ama
i'mmid gold
>>384533757
What I do
And you're going to love this
I shoot him
And then I don't run over to where I got him
In fact, I actively avoid the place that he died
WOW
ZOINKS SCOOB WHO WOULD HAVE EVER FIGURED THAT OUT?
>>384543190
>No it is not. Starcraft is easy mode as for as strategy games and RTS are concerned.
I hate overwatch but lol. never post again.
>>384543190
Have we gone full circle? Are people actually calling starcraft simplistic?
>It is all about who micro-manages the best
You act like this is something anybody can do
>>384543805
How can anyone be so bad as to be stuck in gold?
I got placed there and already climbed to diamond and the people in diamond suck.
>>384544015
i'm not stuck, i've been steadily climbing since last week. gained 700+ sr this season.
>>384543719
I have played Starcraft 1 beta back in the day. Unlike blizzard-fags I had expanded my horizons.
Starcraft 1 has always been easy mode. There are far more difficult and challenging RTS and strategy games out. People just need to stop sucking South Korean dick so much.
Starcraft is the Counterstrike of strategy games. It comes down to twitchy fingers to overcome the shitty 1990s-era UI.
Children have fucking mastered the damn game.
>>384542712
The joke is, they all counter junkrat aswell
>>384542749
Good thing we're not talking about Starcraft, then.
>>384544117
It comes down to twitchy fingers to overcome the shitty 1990s-era UI.
Are you the same type of fag who crying about combos/controls in fightan games? Because thats what you sound like
>>384543924
Yes, the game is bloody simple as fuck.
The rules and game mechanics are juvenile as fuck. The same reason why CS, LOL and DOTA2 are popular.
The masses don't care about spending time and effort to understand an actual "strategy" game which why they never get any eSports coverage. Their matches take easily take hours to resolve. Only the most die-hard fans would commit the time for it.
SC1 is pretty much a small niche outside of South Korea like any other game from that era.
>>384544312
Fighting games are much more difficult then SC1. They require a greater understanding of game mechanics to be effective. You can't just mindlessly mash buttons and hope for the best.
SC remaster is fueled entirely by nostalgia.
>>384534856
Pharah is weird.
You see a lot of people complaining about her, and half of that is just her biggest counters(i.e. snipers) are usually mained by retards that'll somehow miss while using Winston or Symmetra's guns. McCree dropped off the face of the Earth pretty early from his halcyon days of dominance once he got nerfed and Soldier 76 got buffs. Soldier 76 is still a pretty consistent presence but a Pharah that's just flying around shooting rockets from far away is just being retarded and deserves to die. At midrange, she can comfortably fight 76, and pretty reliably take on anything that isn't a tank. Even if she somehow gets hacked by a Sombra, it takes a trivial amount of effort to put two rockets into her at ground level.
With her high mobility and verticality, she forces your team to divide their attention if she makes her approach by flying, but at the same time, she doesn't have any abilities to hide behind. She can't recall or deflect, or self-heal. She has completely average durability in spite of being in power armor.
If her girlfriend's with her, she's even more devastating, but at the same time, you're committing one of your 6 players, and (one of) your healers, to follow another player around, and said healer is also the weakest of the four healers in the game, with the other three being far more effective with basic competencies.
I feel like with her low penalities from shooting from far away, trivial damage falloff, low splash, high damage output, she's supposed to be a tank buster, but the shields on the tanks are really generous, shields being driven down can be trivial unless the rest of the team is already focusing fire on the same tank.
So her failings there are more just tanks being too dominant, whether it's Reinhardt or Winston's meta.
In spite of that, for every advantage she can utilize, she brings another weakness into play when it's active. Pharah might unintentionally be the most balanced hero in the game.
>>384544439
What do you consider a hard competitive game? Imo the peaks are fighting games, arena shooter and good rtses.
>>384544273
>Look at every other game Blizzard makes, from World of Warcraft, to Starcraft, to fucking Hearthstone.
>to Starcraft
>Starcraft
>>384544632
She beats soldier handily from super long range though, his damage falloff makes her unkillable if her healer isn't awful and she has no damage falloff.
>>384544632
>Pharah might unintentionally be the most balanced hero in the game
Which might explain why she's never adjusted at all. Except for that liftoff buff, she's exactly the fucking same since launch day.
>>384533757
>not just playing Zenyatta
>mfw
He's everything. You'd might as well be a chess master moving pieces. It's so much fucking fun. I love him so much.
>>384544840
What kind of Soldier 76 playstyle are you using where Pharah can somehow hit you from super long range? The only way her slow as fuck rockets with their tiny splash can hit Soldier 76 is if he is literally standing still.
>>384544840
Pharah won't hit anything at extreme range unless the Soldier is a complete retard who stands still like a turret. For both rocketing and her ult, her place is at mid range, little less than the height of jump jets.
>>384544941
>>384545034
I would argue her forcing you to back off is a win for her and dinking her for baby damage isn't going to kill her. Basically it's an impasse but she probably fucks your team harder than you fuck her team and it's your job to kill her. Obviously she'd rather be closer, but I think hanging back and building ult is fine between pushes and in that scenario solly can't touch her.
It seems like there's always somebody whining about some character or another from this game
Jesus you babies get fucking good.
>>384545430
While I'm garbage tier at all of it (silver and proud) I just don't care about meta and like all the characters. I guess I play into the narrative here but I'm just there to have some fun.
It's not like I fuck around in competitive but I stopped eventually and just do quick play now. I just don't care about that shit anymore. Maybe I could be good in competitive if I gave a fuck? Maybe I'd be shit. I don't care anymore. I just play to have fun and to win but not for meta MOBA shit constraints.
>has unlimited ammo
>can reload grenade launcher instantly instead of one at a time like other FPSs
Considering how spam-happy he can get, he needs to be as weak as he is.
>>384544632
>mercy
>weakest healer
t. Bronze shitter
>>384547598
If she didn't have the broken revive, she'd have nothing.
>>384547598
The update they figure out how they're going to nerf her ult, is the update she goes into F tier with half the cast.
>>384546890
if you aim good with him you can go far
>he uses his concussion mines for damage instead of mobility
Honestly the amount that you have to rely on your teammates in this game is inexcusable. Made me take DOTA 2 ranked for granted, at least you can out farm the other team if you're better.
>>384544726
Pretty sure he was talking about "Starcraft" 2.
>>384544609
Junkrat might not be overpowered but he's definitely anti-fun.
There's a reason Valve put a delay on the Demo's sticky.
>>384544940
it's true. zenyatta can still carry just by healing orb a flanker and discording their target.
you bring heals and increased damage to every fight, you can hang out in the back and spam orbs from far away at choke points, and his ult cancels the enemies push
zenyatta is a carry
>>384551141
No, the reason Demo's spam was so tolerable was because he could only reload one grenade/sticky at a time.
>>384544941
She doesn't need to hit you though, she just needs to force you off the high ground or attract your attention while firing into the clusterfuck on the point every so often.
>>384548272
Except the second best healing, second best mobility, and best self sustain in her class.
>>384551410
Also he had finite ammo and the max ammo reserve was nerfed from the 40s into the 20s.
>>384541418
>consoleshitters