>make content that's supposed to last until the next

>>384520563
>playing mmorpgs unironically
reddit af

Alright you parsing nerds, whats the ideal setup for ACT, tried it out today and every time I do Susano EX everyone's DPS drops dramatically when we enter the sword phase, I set the dmg tick to reset every 30 seconds but no matter what the second the sword appears on screen everyone drops 500-1000 DPS before the sword hits the tank.

>blowing your load on the best cameo character you could possibly have on the first set of bosses
No, defend THIS.

People who obsess over dps numbers and parsing shouldn't bother playing this game, or any mmos.
When you make everything about numbers and optimal ways to get certain numbers and obsess over it you take away all the fun of the game.

>>384520563
So you cleared it already OP?

>>384520563
>Beating something once means you're done with it forever

Do MMO players really feel this way? Don't you want to try mastering every role in the fight? Doing it with different people? Or don't you at least need to farm the fight for gear or something?

>>384520843
That's how it works. DPS = Damage/Time. Standing around for long periods of time doing nothing makes your DPS drop dramatically.

>>384520563
Neo ExDeath is pretty cool.

>>384521115
for savage content, you HAVE to master it to complete it

Do I use Manafication off cd or at 40~50

When it goes off cd and I overshoot I try to hit 80, blow the gauges, then build up to 40 but this makes the skill sit off cd for 20-30 seconds

>>384521279
The problem is this only happens on the pause with the sword, should I change the timer setting higher than 30 seconds from last dmg tick?

>>384520563
which DRK blade looks the most like the one caught in this tree?

>>384521434
>every raid in every mmo

>>384520563
>t. guy who won't get his clear for another month
>t. guy who tried savage once but quit because it was too hard
>t. guy who has never even set foot in savage
People really love the idea of "unbeatable" bosses that even the best players in the game can't kill, until they are the ones actually trying to kill them. Then they all quit out of anger. Gordias nearly killed the game and now people are begging for something similar.

>>384521565
30 seconds is fine for most encounters. Regardless of the setting FFlogs will parse the logs correctly if you upload them there. I set mine to 40 because of Lakshmi though, the downtime after adds is ridiculous.

Yes, because there's not 2 more raid tiers coming up. This is the only raid until the next expansion.

well i'm glad dungeon queues are actually viable as dps. got from 65 to 70 in a day. it's a good thing these have guaranteed drops to gear you up as well

>>384521682
I'll consider 40 instead, which is odd cause Lakshimi doesnt do that to me, but alrighty then!

>>384521039
I don't know friend, I know my FC loves getting parsed since they feel they can do better and have fun trying to beat their past parses but to each their own I guess

>>384521662
Only good fight in Gordias was pepsiman, while Midas was better balanced (exept the fact that they swapped 6 and 7 in diffuculty) and overall more fun.

>Purchase game for $10
>Purchase latest expansion for $40-50
>Purchase a monthly subscription at $10-15
>Play through dozens of hours of story quests, hating every moment
>Skip all cutscenes, button mash through all dialogue
>Do all dungeons, hate them
>Farm to gear up, hate that too
>Finally after 100-200+ hours of gameplay, finally ready to do the "good" part of the game.
>4 bosses on a weekly lockout
I'll never understand people with this mentality. Like holy fuck. You spent so much time and money on a game you hated just for the garnish. Yet I constantly see people who say Savage is the only worthwhile part of the game. How braindamaged do you have to be to play this game if that's your opinion?

>>384520563
>Main SCH and MCH
>Dunno whether to be happy or sad.

Did the MCH patch fix MCH or are they still in the cuckshed? They're fun in pvp, but i haven't bothered to play them in pve at all.

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>>384522310
I know right? It's like eating a hotdog just for the ketchup.

>>384522624
They're better now and losing GB isnt as bad with Stabilizer on a 60sec CD but Yoshi still hasnt given us a reason to use Overheat since its still a DPS loss and it could benefit with a slight increase to the potency of the Shots both Heated and Unheated

>>384522624
>Did the patch fix MCH?
You basically got a bit more damage, no utility, and your rotation was simplified even further than it already was.

>>384522864
I would have thought Overheating would be a damage gain if you did it during Wildfire.

>>384522917
what did the patch do to simplify your rotation

>>384522930
It's literally barely an increase. You could ignore overheating and your damage would be less but not by a whole hell of a lot.

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4.0 BLM
>literally addresses every complaint players had
>triplecast for high movement phases
>proper aoe rotation
>enochian is piss easy to maintain

>4.05 BLM
>buffs triplecast
>adjusts MP usage so you can always get off your 8 Fire IV opener, and standard 6 Fire IV rotation

Feels good to be Yoshi's pet job.

>>384522040
>being surprised that when you get better gear you get higher damage

Wow holy shit MMO players are really fucking bright arent they

>>384523015
Less Cooldowns and more 123 spam.

>>384523056
Did they fix the problem where it's a DPS gain to ignore Blizzard IV?

>>384520563
>Make MMORPG
>Literally every patch is just characters from old FF games
Why even fucking bother

>>384523225
Not true. Every boss in alexander was original, I think, except Alexander himself.

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>>384523109

so if I trade in my punjabi potd weapons for the upgraded ones, do i still get to keep the old one? cause I like how the first weapon looks so I need it for muh glamour

>>384523308
Cruise Chaser is from FF9

>>384523308
Cruise Chaser was Ark from FF9. I don't think you're familiar enough with FF characters to give an accurate opinion.

>>384523181
No.

>>384523056
And all of the casting gear has fucking sps

>you actually do spar with Lyse in Rhalgr's hand
That was pretty neat.
I bet that air dash part looks retarded as a Lala though.

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>TFW Stormblood ended up being a disastrous worse-than-Legion expansion

This is fucking embarrassing.

>>384522930
Given that Hotshot itself is a 8% damage gain now when you compare it to the 10% that Overheat gives the increase is minimal, you might as well just keep balancing your heat between 50-95 and get around the same every Wildfire than losing the Gauss Barrel, if they buffed it to 20% or so then you would probably see it being used more

>>384523512
That entire sparring scene looks stupid on a bunch of classes.

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>>384520934
>mfw tier 2 does to other Square games instead of just FF
>Enter Sigmascape v 4.0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrAKxzAXsk starts playing

>>384523512
Would have been cool if it was an actual instanced fight.

>>384520563
where's your clear vid bro?

>>384522930
it's only a decent gain if you have Hypercharge up like the old rotation so the 60s stabilizer doesnt really do anything

>>384523559
The problem I have with MCH is that it's a clusterfuck of 60s cooldowns that you have to keep aligned at all times and then blow them all within the tiny 10s duration of Wildfire. If your latency is over 150 then you can't weave during Rapid Fire at all without clipping and so fitting everything into 10s Wildfire is impossible.

>>384523696
I was Angered's BRD. Shit was too easy.

>>384521039
That's the shitter mentality. If other people are going to commit time to doing something then you owe it to them and yourself to play the best that you can. That doesn't mean you have to play perfectly or parse 100%ile but if you can't even be assed to learn your own class then you should stick to single player games.

>>384523225
That's kinda of the point. It's basically fan service the game.

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>>384523056
It really does.
>love how BLM became a single target beast in HW
>slightly disappointed in nothing being done with their aoe
>SB is out
>aoe is fucking fantastic now, we even get thunder that looks like lightning bolts and procs thundercloud so we can be ramuh

>>384523181
Sort of. Fire IV and Blizz IV are faster now, so it's easier to pull off all six Fire IVs with umbral hearts rather than being stuck with just four per AF cycle. From what I hear BLM are a little closer to SAM now. I still wouldn't mind a small potency boost, though.

>>384521039
I'm a shitter myself but parse anyway to see if I'm doing even more shitty than usual, or if I'm doing shittier than the other shitters in my DF party.
Usually spurs me into putting a bit more effort, especially if my co DPS is of the same job.

>>384523758
60s Stabilizer is for if you fuck up and overheat accidentally I guess. Which begs the question as to what the hell Flamethrower even exists for.

I heard Angered was bankrolled by Saudi oil money. Is this true?

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Fucked around a bit and made some bigger improvements to my Vertigo.

If someone wants it: https://files.catbox.moe/181rvg.rar

>>384523971
Every single final fantasy game have recycled enemies from previous entrys, literally 80% of all the enemies IN EVERY SINGLE GAME, LITERALLY.

Somehow, FF14 is a bad thing for doing it.

>>384524194
I'll have it. Thanks.

>>384524092
Flamethrower is a shitty overheat buildup move. They should've just switch it with the instant overheat move from pvp

>>384523585
>she wants to have a Kung fu battle
>you pull out your book cause SMN/SCH
Cutscenes will always look ridiculous with this as the weapon.

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>>384523632
>tier 2 goes to other Square games
>Omega decides to fight fire with fire and aims to throw an enemy who can also "change htier strengths" akin to the WoL's soul crystal
>boss appears, just a featureless silhouette at first
>He of the Name kicks in

>>384522570
(Same)

>>384523512
It looked fine, if anything it was sillier just because I wasn't a monk.

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>>384524484
Leave Omega Weapon to me.

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>>384524484
>One fight is clones of your party or random party that cleared previous fight.

>>384523056
>pic related
It funny how things have turned. Of all the whining MNKs did they still keep their spot over SAM

>SCHs say that their shields are too weak compared to AST
>Buff Aetherflow actions instead
>SCHs say that their shields are too expensive
>Give them more Aetherflow
So are SCHs just supposed to delete Adlo and Succor or what? Seems like the only time they want you to use them is to deploy Adlo. Worst part is that now they can't even change the focus from Aetherflow actions back to shield/pet healing because SCHs will cry bloody murder if you take away 500 potency Indom/800 Excog/45s Aetherflow.

>>384520563
>beat the content
>didn't get your drop
>have to do the content for 3 months until you roll your drop

>>384524194
It looks nice.
Do you think it's possible to mod Direct Hit% and Direct Crit Hit% in?

>>384524194
>that sam

>>384524194
baguetto?

>>384524916
Not sure. When I was modding it first in SB (replacing ACC), Direct Hit wasn't working right so it wasn't possible.
Might be possible now, I'll check.

>>384525010
It was Chrysalis I got from Trial Roulette so I'm not judging.

>>384521039

>People who obsess over dps numbers and parsing shouldn't bother playing this game, or any mmos.

Anon, roughly ~.05% of the game caters to 'hardcore raiders'. The rest of it is easy as fuck and suitable for 'fun'.

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>>384524709
Leave tanking to me

>>384520934
I'm not sure how they're going to top Exdeath, he's the strongest antagonist in the FF series given he has the power to erase reality.

>>384525118
Oh, by the way
// isn't valid comment syntax in CSS

>>384522310
>I bought the expansion before deciding if I liked the base game
>I bought a subscription even though the base game AND the expansion both come with a free month
>I skipped through the story
>But somehow I know I didn't like it
>after 100-200 hours of not having fun, I was surprised to learn that playing more wasn't any more fun

You're a fucking retard and you deserve to have wasted your time, and your money.

>>384525486
Whoever made it in the first place just left bunch of that all over the place.
It makes it ignore the line so it's good enough. I know it wouldn't work if I tried to comment a line, however.

>>384525328
Just you wait until you zone into a new fight and One-Winged Angel kicks in, and the fan base goes insane.

>>384520563
They had about as many pulls as the world first WoW guild did on the final boss. The difference is that there are no real gear gates in Omega Savage so you can beat it once you master the mechanics. That and it's not horribly buggy.

>>384525328
I dunno, Ultimecia is pretty strong too.

Next final raid boss will be Bartz and his party anyways.

>>384525328
Being the strongest doesn't make him the best villain

>>384525904
Not likely. Krile is already in the game.

>>384525703
But Neo-Exdeath would wipe the floor with Seraph Sephiroth. Erasing reality > Supernova. I feel like they'd do Cefca before they do Sephiroth anyway.

>>384526015
Yes it does.

>>384525904
I doubt they will actually use FF characters in this game like that. The most you'll get are promotionals like Lightning. Maybe Noctis one day.

>>384525904
More like
>Party members are O5-7
>Bartz is O8
>O8 Savage's second phase is Bartz + his party

>>384526056
No it doesn't

>>384526056
Then I guess Lightning is the best mc since she is the strongest.

>>384520563
>some jackoffs who devote 99% of their time playing FFXIV get world first in a day like someone ALWAYS does
>HURR WHY WAS IT CLEARED IN A DAY

Did you clear it in a day anon? Of course you didn't, you're probably never even going to bother trying.

>>384526273
Lightning doesn't have a good design and isn't a good character and isn't from a good game. Also Bartz could probably beat Lightning but I'd rather not get into that. If Bartz and his team can beat a reality warper they can beat Lightning.

>>384526140
No thanks.. Exdeath is already pushing the fanservice to retarded levels. That would be overkill, and I think it would drive away a lot of people.

>>384526329
People just shitpost. In the wow thread it's "it took X long to clear Y content? DEAD GAME PLAY FFXIV"

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>>384525904
I'd like to see some FFT bosses, myself. I mean, the game's story has well-established the whole "anchoring a primal within oneself" gimmick.

Get those Zodiac Braves in there.

>Enter solo duty
>pic related style character
>"Draw your sword, Warrior of light."

>>384526015
Correct, but Exdeath is still the best.

>>384526414
Lightning beat God.

>>384526536
I'm sorry anon. Ivalice is confirmed to be XII-style.

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Why should it be attacked? MMO players are losers with no life that spend all of their free time playing MMOs. Is it the developer's fault that people play their MMO every waking moment and are thus overpowered as fuck for the content that the developer creates?

The mentality of MMO players makes them WANT to complete the content the developer creates as fast as possible because the MMO is all they care about, and yet they complain when they complete the content quickly because it causes them to reflect on how much of a failure they are and how much of their life they are wasting.

If MMO players were capable of exercising self-control, there would be no complaints. However, MMO players don't even know what exercise is, let alone self-control.

>>384526629
Don't care.

>>384526712
What a stupid post. Don't post Kirby with such tripe.

>>384526643
Isn't XII the distant past of FFT's world?

They're the same setting at vastly different points in time.

>>384526026
Didn't think about that.
I hope they'll do something like this tho. Maybe they could use the warriors of light from FFI.

>>384525904
The story will be that you, the WOL, is one of the protagonists of these stories from multiple lives. Cid mentions why they dont use the protags since they beat these baddies. Its huge foreshadowing

>>384526712
developers design the game for their players, not the other way around. stop being fucking retarded.

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>>384524916
Oh yeah, it works.
Just needs some fine-tuning to fit to left side perfectly, splitting it so if someone did little dps it'll show just crit/crit+dh, etc.
I'm too sleepy to do details like those though.


js:
row.find('.critperc').text(combatant["crithit%"]+"CRIT "+combatant["DirectHitPct"]+"DH ("+combatant["CritDirectHitPct"]+"!!)");
Gotta up dps_width too. 30 does the trick on my overlay width.

css:
li .critperc min-width to 120px.

I forgot... why exactly was Lyse pretending to be Yda, again?

>>384527021
Yes, that is the case, but they have a vastly different aesthetic. It's not bad per se but you won't be having temple knights and zodiac stones.

>>384526056
Kefka and Sephiroth will definitely appear at some point.
Sephiroth is just way too damn popular not to, it sickens me how many times I had to explain to people who Exdeath was.

>>384527219
Yda= sttong idependant woymen
Lyse= little bitch who wanted to be like big sis Yda

>>384527219
Because the writers didn't want to give away who the girl in the Stormblood trailer was.

That's the only reason I can think of.

>>384520563
>less than 1% of the population beat the content
>THIS SHIT IS TOO EASY GUYS

>>384523548
>Worse than Legion
>Worse than World of Diablocraft.
Anon...

>>384527303
Theyll hold onto 7 stuff for either the remake launch or later expacs when player count starts to decline. That shit is their trump card

>>384527219
Basically this >>384527341 but they also need to totally rewrite Yda from being the dumb helpful idiot.

>>384527381
Stormblood is utterly devoid of content, it's embarrassing. I'd rather have Legion than this.

>>384524271
I'll tell you, fool.

Every Final Fantasy takes the raw concept of a given Final Fantasy trope and re-imagines it, re-defines it for the context of that game. Chocobos look different depending on the environments they can grow in. Moogles evolved differently, or in some games weren't able to live at all. Even things like Bombs get a tweaking to give them an entertaining twist. If it's all the same every time with exactly the same aesthetic, which part exactly is the "new" part of the game?

>>384524741
I was actually thinking, since Omega is traversing dimensions, wouldn't it be cool if the background had small holes to other worlds and you see random recordings of other parties that have fought Omega?

>>384527341
>male monk in trailer turned out to jjust be you

Kinda suck. Esp after they were building up this whole Bloodstorm angle with monks, and the Temple of Fist. A missed opportunity to give Lyse and her home more depth. In fact, the entire expansion felt like a waste of potential. We did everything too fast.

>>384527303

>it sickens me how many times I had to explain to people who Exdeath was.

... why? Why would that sicken you? FFV was never a popular game or widespread release in the Americas.

>>384527242
Eh, FFXII's aesthetic is actually a little bit closer to XIV's than FFT's anyways.

I could easily see a MCH in Balthier's shirt and vest, or some Shitty Cat Waifu in Fran's getup.

And don't forget that Gaius and the like are basically just Judges.

Beneath the gazing stars
Vales deep and forests dark
Betrayed by loyal hands, Her wrath stirred

Bound fast unto our fate
One path, one burden great
Yet ever do our aching souls point Heavensward
Ever ring outs our song

Yes, ever do our aching souls march Heavensward
As they've done for so long

>>384527713
>male monk in trailer turned out to jjust be you
I dunno if this is your first time to the game, but the guy should be easily recognizable as the player insert character from the trailers.

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>>384527584
>Content.
What is content anon?

Grinding dungeons and farming legendaries, praying for BiS? Farming AP? Grinding your head into the gear-wall that is Mythic Kiljaeden (that Method had to class-stack for?)

FFXIV has a shit ton to do for if you play the game a few hours each day. Although I'm sure you're in one of the few groups that have cleared Neo Exdeath already.

In fact I'm sure you were part of the 5% that cleared all of Alexander Savage.

>>384527219
Because Yda was supposed to get reunited with the Scions, but she died in the Mhigger uprising that ultimately led to the Garlean occupation. Lyse, who survived, felt survivor's guilt and wanted Yda's legacy to live on, so she tried to pretend to be Yda.

>>384527713
You know it's the same guy in every trailer right? He changes classes every expansion because he's the WOL

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>>384526958
A little too close to home?

>>384527156
>developers design the game for their players, not the other way around.
MMO developers can't create content fast enough to outpace the rate at which MMO players can consume it.

MMO players need to fucking chill, yet they are unable to. Their complaints regarding content being completable too quickly deserve no sympathy or respect.

>>384527676
Final raids could be different omega versions from different games that were considered "inferior"
Question is, what 3 would you want? (4th being the XIV omega of course

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>>384527780
>ONLY JUSTICE ONLY VENGEANCE
vs
>STORM OF BLOOD BORN FROM BLOOD

Why are the leitmotifs so based?

>>384527771
Yeah, I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining, it'll probably be awesome either way. My preference is just for FFT. I'd love to have some XII styled gear.

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>>384526015
True, but Exdeath is still the best villain.
>his fighting style in Dissidia

Forever my favorite FF villain together with Ultimecia.

>>384527584
This.

There is just always something to do in Legion. Once you hit max level in Stormblood, there is nothing to do once you hit your weekly raid limit.

>>384527713
Yeah, it's not like we have almost 2 years of story content left in this expansion.
This is like complaining about not fighting EstinienHogg in 3.0.

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>>384527780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LIw6Vnt2MI

>>384524016
The BLM and SAM in my group are pretty much neck and neck with each other, usually with an 60-80 point disparity. I'm really glad they're both good at their jobs.

>>384527964
I love Heavensward, but every time I listen to that small chorus for Stormblood I get chills.

>>384528129
>There is just always something to do in Legion.
Farm AP?
Farm worldquests?
Farm Mythic+ dungeons?

Essentially grinding Diablo-esque maps/rifts?

If you all enjoy mindless grind so much I have a few Korean MMO's to offer you.

>Hint: Just because you have something to 'do' doesn't mean that thing is 'good'.

>>384528140
That was more based on Square releasing the expansion too early than anything.

>>384528129
>always something to do
>by that I mean push a number upwards every single day by doing the same activities every single day without change.

Come on man, don't act retarded.

BOTH endgames are skinner boxes, but Artifact Weapons are like 10x worse.

>>384527584
>buy legion
>get to max
>suddenly game is stacking timers on me
>some of them multiple days

Why is it like this.

>>384528295
Well there we go. That's how it should be, I think.

>>384528373
WoW's skinner box has more content, though.

>>384527936
I mean, they could. They just put in harsh gear gates. FFXIV has taken a strong stand against gear gates in the past two raids now; if you're really so good you can do it all you can beat it in crafted, melded gear. Otherwise you can ride the gearing fence with your tomestones and raid drops.

>>384528596
Lol

>>384527936
or maybe mmo devs need to be more creative and come up with a way to make lasting content. these shitty modern "roguelites" keep people playing for months and theyre all simplistic as fuck.

the devs have to please the players, because the players are the one paying. thats how this shit works. stop being retarded.

>>384527936
kirby is not for bully

>>384528927
Let's hear your idea for lasting content.

>>384528593
I agree, since BLM is the caster version of SAM, or vice versa rather.

We're not a full group sadly or else we'd be done with O3S by now I think, along with doing higher damage with a constant NIN, and MNK or BRD. Still was a good feeling to see the BLM (who was a MCH beforehand, played BLM for fun) do well in a heavy movement based fight for O1S.

BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
ACROSS THE EMERALD DALE
ON MARCH THE IVORY STANDARD, UNITED WE PREVAIL
FROM DISTANT SHORES OF OTHARD
TO LAKES OF ALDENARD
THE LIGHT OF MIGHTY GARLEMALD, FORE'ER OUR GUIDING STAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46s8AFupevM
Nice transition lads

>one fucking thousand potions
good goy

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>>384523632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVobeSPR7U4

>>384529128
Not a fan of the empire but they have a goddamn beautiful national anthem

>>384529159
>implying they bought them
You do know they have crafter bitches in their FC to make them food and potions right?

It's not designed around the NEET schedule

>>384529004
i just gave you my idea retard. they could take inspiration from any of the modern roguelikes, or dia and make some kind of procedeurally generated random dungeon shit. WoW is already copying tons of shit from diablo anywas so why not bring on the randomly generated levels

>>384520563
>clicks on quest and hits accept
>doesn't read
>doesn't watch cutscenes
>wonders why they blew through the expansion quickly

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>>384528596
Mythic+ is maybe the only thing thats better.

The truth is, FF's endgame has you actually playing the game content a lot more than WoW does.

I can't tell you how much time I've spent waiting in stormwind for a specific group just to run mythics. I can't do old content, puggable content is easy and unrewarding, and patches are few and far between.

At least FF gets me playing the damn content to progress.

Artifact research made me wait.
Artifact Power made me grind boring shit.
Artifact appearances had me doing a grocery list of boring ass archaeology.

Fuck, even when I wanted to do a dungeon, I was told I had to get reputation first.
When I wanted to advance my order I had to do MONTHS of Order Advancement Research.

None of these things are putting me in groups, none of these things are letting my play my class in the context of the bigger game.

The fact that there's busywork to unlock fun content is garbage, and you HAVE to know that right? WoW wasn't like this before, it shouldn't be like this.

>>384529128
is that dragonforce lyrics

>>384529462

>A videogame's content should be 80% cutscenes and 20% videogame

Do you work for SE by chance?

>>384520563
Someone else beat the hardest content, now I have nothing left to do!!!

>>384527964
To their trespass
We are Witness
Here to pass this
Final sentence
No forgiveness
No deliverance
Only Justice
Only Vengeance

Wills unbending
Faith unending
Stone defending
Now our steel shall sing

Guide us, O mighty Fury
Guide us to victory!

>>384529510
>hurrr I want everything handed to me!
You're whats killing MMOs.

>>384529738
t. poopsocker

>>384529462
The fuck are you trying to say? Even if you went super slowly doing sidequests and reading everything (like I did), you will have finished all the quest related content in the game a few weeks ago. Why are you going on about quests?

>>384529738
I don't even understand how you got that from what he said. Goddamn dude.

>>384529738
waiting 72 hours is "earning" something now?

You might like Warframe.

>>384530018
>Poorframe
Lol no thanks

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>>384529693
Dys an sohm in
Rohs an kyn ala na
Mah morn narr
Sahl djahs afah an
Eorzea!

>>384524440
>some fag wants a piece of you
>not pulling out the good ol' yellow pages to break some schnozzes in with

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Saw this from Angered's WHM. I don't know how people can even bear to look at 3-4 full rows of autism, this is much better.
And for some reason Cure 1 isn't on there

>>384529816
You can't even poopsock legion because everything is behind actual 3 day timers.

You're not even allowed to grind.

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>ywn forearm clasp with Estinien

>>384523781

Angered is a bunch of midcore raiders who happened to start raiding seriously when Savage turned into ex primal difficulty. There's nothing for Angered to be proud of.

>last until next expansion
>It's the first of bi-patchly content
t. someone who doesn't play the game

So when's Tier 2

>>384529738

It's more that WoW wastes your time with the hours of just unironic waiting just to unlock a new tier. FFXIV wastes no one's time, there's almost no pointless busywork in regards to accessing dungeons, raids and also crafting/gathering (in 4.0, not 3.0). You spend the time, you get rewards.

>>384530556

>there's almost no pointless busywork in regards to accessing dungeons, raids

I mean, save for the literal hundreds of pointless fetch quests the game sends you on, yeah I guess.

>>384520563
The 1% elite beating a boss doesn't mean it's a easy fight by any means

The end of the fight has an insane dps check akin to winged justice where it keeps getting damage buffs and keeps hitting you so if you dont have a complete optimal rotation you probably won't be able to clear it until you get better gear

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>>384529401
When the garleans took ala mhigo they replaced the lyrics of the anthem with their own but kept the tune in an effort to rape and violate mhiggers pride in their nation.
Because that's how they roll.

>>384530662

>story quests in a FF game are pointless

Okay. Sure, there's a jump potion right there.

>>384530221
There's no reason to ever use cure 1 at level 70

MP is not an issue with cure2

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>>384523056
Using fire IV is only a 5-10% damage increase over fire I

>>384530662
When you hit max level you talk to a guy to get the raid.

You don't rep grind.
You don't train followers to unlock it.
You just get to play it.

Still need around 65 A1s kills for my boosted paladins anima weapon. Why isn't the light step nerfed already?

>>384531007
the only good thing about fire 4 was the animation desu

>>384521039
low parsing scrub detected.

>>384531083
>A1S
Just do A9S, it's even easier now and gives more.

>>384530913
I have a couple people in my FC who obviously used jump potion. They never talk never say hello, never respond. I bet they're gonna quit soon.

>>384530485
6-8 months

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what do you think you are doing in my raid spot white boy? I leave for a month and you suddenly think it's your spot?

>>384531007
>5-10%
That's kinda significant though, isn't it.

>>384530913

I'm actually really pissed that they released a jump potion just because of how fucking awful ARR was and these people get to skip it.

>>384530362
>not dropping darkside to get mp back
What a shitter :^)

>>384531312
>World first group didn't have one

Nice try

>>384531312
>tfw SCH cucked out of world first
Actually yes it is my spot now bitch.

>>384531497
>world first group defines the meta now.

Will people think sam is good now too.
rofl

>>384531453
i know you're joking but they had literally no idea what was going to happen

>>384530362
>tfw tuned into the stream just in time to see it live
i don't even play this game.

>meta
That word does not mean anything in this game, does it?

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>>384530834
>It will be years before we can get proper Judge armor

>>384530362
Isn't Fold actually from /vg/?

>>384523347
nope, its replaces the original

>>384531874
Wouldn't be surprised if him, Miunih, and Rinchan go there.

>>384531564
Both groups that got O4S down actually ran MNK+NIN+BRD+RDM.

>>384530362
>Skipping the best part where he smash the void with his fist first

>>384523632
>next two tiers wasted on recycling FFXI & FFXII boss models to save a buck

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>>384532054
>didn't play either of those games to any significant extent so I wont even be bothered by it
too easy

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>Duty Roulette: Trials
>queue pops
>1/1 1/1 2/2

>>384532054
>"recycling" ~12 year old enemies from games that are entirely different than this one

Man shut the fuck up.

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>>384532054
Make it happen,Tanaka's ghost.

>>384532419
There are no 4-man trials. You can only get the 4-man version of Ifrit/Titan/Garuda in Leveling Roulette.

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>>384532550
>I just did my leveling roulette twice in a row
FUCK

>>384532419
Now show me your anime face for when a party member withdraws and you're left by yourself back in the queue.

>>384532547
It'd be wild to see Absolute Virtue in a raid

>timer is literally 3 days

>>384532619
Roulette are always instant in those cases because you're at #1. It's the manual queues that are the real shit
>one person backs out
>the rest of them magically disappears and I'm left waiting for another half an hour

>>384532724
Fuck you that's not an anime face.

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>>384532643
>>384532547

>>384532928
Which one's that again? the pandemonium warden?

Alright, so I'm at the Haukke Manor part of the MSQ and it's taking ages to find a party. Should I just buy a jump potion? Is the rest of the story that great? Because while I'm enjoying the story at the moment, it's getting to be pretty frustrating how long and drawn out it is.

>>384520563
You didn't clear it. You probably never will.

Whether a top guild cleared it is irrelevant for you.

>>384531301
That's gay. What do I do in 6-8 months

>>384533135
Pandemonium Warden, the superior 18 hour boss.

>>384533137
>skipping the story in a ff game

wtf am I supposed to do with the stack marker of V2S?

We stack and get instagibbed by another attack immediatly

>>384533137

>Should I just buy a jump potion?

Why? So you can run out of things to do even faster?

>>384532010
Almost all of that group have posted there at some point. Cheya even tried fishing for erp.

>>384532928
Didn't this dude kill some people IRL

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>tfw no friends
>tfw can't ever do Savage content

>>384533137
>it's taking ages to find a party.
how long is "ages"

>Just had a bunch of other mentors in novice network claiming sacred soil is bad because it costs an aetherflow stack
>also apparently eye for an eye is bad because its rng

...

http://may.2chan.net/b/res/497860160.htm

Futaba thread!

>>384533357
You have to use the duty action to avoid damage on the stack marker, so you don't actually have to stack.

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>>384525328
By fighting the person who created every FF antagonist just because he was bored and wanted research data while sleeping for thousands of years.

>>384520563
>get's cleared on the first day y 0.00001% of the population
>still lasts most of the expansion duration for the rest of the players

I don't see the need to defend it

>>384533603
apparently V1/2S are PFable

>>384533451
Absolute Virtue is the one that caused the controversy, but they were both similarly responsible for 18 hour fights which made people ill. Both got locked down with I believe 2 hour timers after that.

>>384533756
>after years content

lel

>>384533356
Well I'd watch the cutscenes before starting the expac of course
>>384533383
More to just get to where people are saying the MSQs get good, I don't think I'll run out of content regardless seeing as there's a shit load of jobs and other content, from what I can see at least
>>384533614
Took 20 minutes to find a party before, got into the dung and the tank left

>>384531327
It's not 5-10% worth of effort

So why doesn't Omega synthesize heroes?

>>384533960
A 20 minute wait is baby shit. Reconsider playing the game any further unless you really enjoy the single player part of it.

>>384522570
SCH was fixed, its actually interesting to play again, the only issue i have right now is that large ass is only used for adlo prefight and doesn't affect your lustrate/indom, also indom has been over buffed, it shouldn't heal 10k and it seems like it always crits.

>>384533756
TAY was worse than most fanfiction and is non-canon

>>384525635
>reading comprehension

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>>384534023
next tier

>>384533756
the fuck is this

>Get into a FC raid group
>First week everyone shows up
>Second week DPS doesn't
>3rd week Tank and DPS doesn't show up
>Savage starts and now we have no tank because he decided to not tell us he's now working at the times of the raid

I want to die

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>>384533987
It's really not hard, anon.

Glad my sub ran out today
Was able to clear o1s-o4s with my friends

Now i can wait till 4.5 and then do whatever content is out. Or earlier if they add some content that's actually difficult.

>>384533636
They're right about sacred soil for the most part. There's a threshold you have to hit to make it worth it. Like 90% of fights it's a waste, but it isn't useless.
And eye for an eye does suck. It's nice in mass pulls but it's not making a huge difference.

>>384528129
>an expansion at the end of its lifecycle has more to do than an expansion that came out a month ago

Alert the fucking media. Also, does it really count as more to do if none of it is any good?

>>384534285
Yeah no shit its a dead game.

>>384534440
Less damage the tanks taking = more damage you can deal, there is no reason not to use sacred or eye for an eye.

How would you fix Shake It Off without just removing it, replacing it with a completely different skill, or just letting it remove non-removable debuffs?

>>384533756
The After Years is up there with shit like Other M in terms of stuff I pretend doesn't exist. I LOOK EXACTLY LIKE RYDIA EXCEPT I HAVE BLUE HAIR AND ALSO I'M A BETTER SUMMONER THAN RYDIA DO NOT STEAL.

>>384534141
Indom was buffed specifically for Savage. Same as Emergency Tactics.

>>384534352
Don't care, should be like 20% to make it feel worth doing

>>384534647
Ok so I'll just nerf fire 3 and fire 1 by 50 potency each, happy now?

>>384534141
SCH plays retarded now. Adlo and Succor are basically worthless and everything is concentrated on their aetherflow skills. And now it can never change because SCHs will cry forever if they nerf Indom/Excog/45s Aetherflow for the sake of making Shield/Fairy healing better.

>>384534596
Make it Thrill of War instead.

>>384530362
That looks pretty cool and faithful to the original.

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>>384534647
People used to complain that dropping enochian was a 30% dps loss.
Just do the right rotation or go play RDM.

>>384534596
>how would you make shake it off different if you couldn't make it different

>>384534782
>worthless
But what if you actually need to shield your tank for a tankbuster?

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>>384528889
>I mean, they could. They just put in harsh gear gates.
Not even Blizzard, the biggest and most successful MMO developer out there, is capable of producing content at a fast enough rate for their player base to be satisfied.

>>384528927
>or maybe mmo devs need to be more creative and come up with a way to make lasting content.
It doesn't matter how "creative" they are. Obsessive MMO players will always, ALWAYS complete new content absurdly fast and then bitch about how fast they were able to complete it. It couldn't have ANYTHING to do with them spending every waking moment of their lives playing the MMO and thus having absurdly high stats and absurdly high level gear, oh no. It's ALWAYS the developer's fault that THEY complete content too quickly.

You are exactly the type of player MMO developers should not listen to, because they will never win. You will never be satisfied. Fucking kill yourself you waste of life.

>>384534983
You bring a Noct AST instead.

>>384534983
You have excog

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>drg is still near dumpster tier

Being able to elusive jump more is a little nice though

>>384534979
As in changing it so it still makes sense within the context of the skill. Like maybe it calculates damage you take for 5s and then applies the amount as a regen effect.

>>384535003
If Blizzard really wanted they could make you have to be in full mythic gear and remove TF before you're able to beat the raid. So technically you could gate it as such.

They won't since they're not idiots, but it's possible!

>>384534870
>Just do the right rotation
why does there have to be one way to play desu

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>>384535132
Yeah cause you definitely needed to constantly halve your hate when you do SO much dps.

>>384534567
Wrong. Sacred Soil has to fight an uphill battle to mitigate a Lustrate's worth of healing. This doesn't happen in 90% of content. Eye for an eye being on the tank doesn't cut down on my stacks or GCDs used so it literally makes no difference.

>>384534285
This is fucking shit. Communicate for god's shit, i swear is this an american thing ?
Where you don't; fucjk,

>>384534870
You don't pay his sub!

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>>384535320
A-Anon...?

>>384535232

It's nice for shit like Exdeath/Lakshmi when you have to move away from the boss but don't have a regular jump. Nothing major just a nice little improvment.

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>want to get into crafting
>have to level practically every craft and gatherer at once

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>>384535185
>If Blizzard really wanted they could make you have to be in full mythic gear and remove TF before you're able to beat the raid.
Which the highest-level and most obsessed players will always be prepared for. Again, kill yourself.

>>384520563
>>make content that's supposed to last until the next expansion
What.

>>384535440
Do Ixal beast tribes til you get 50 in all crafters

>>384535440
They could have fixed this by getting rid of the retarded cross-class system for crafters like they did for battle jobs, but no. I'm still fucking salty that didn't happen.

>>384535440
Ixal beastos and GC turn ins. Also the XP to get crafters to 50 fast are pumped up high - use GC manuals as well.

>>384535440
Lolno. You used to have to do that, now you can get away with levelling just a handful of crafters. Don't waste time gathering for your crafters that's hella stupid.

>>384535106
But what if the damage exceeds the tank's max HP without your shield?

>>384535449
Lockouts work to prevent this

I'm not the guy who wants Blizzard of Squeenix to do this, but it is possible to put stupid high gear gates in and tell the players to deal with it. Even better, don't fix bugs!

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>>384535320
oh shit dude anon's fuckin dead

>>384535514
retards think 4.1 is an expansion

>Beat O1S
>Get walled by O2S
What do?

>>384535697
This is 4.05 not 4.1

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>>384531007
>Fire
>Potency: 180
>Fire IV
>Potency: 260

>>384535841
try harder
kill os2

>>384535440
>fixed combat classes so you don't have to level classes you don't like to get the cross-class skills you need
>leave crafters untouched
goddamnit

>>384535645
What if my dick exceeds the volume of your mouth?

>>384535841
Study up, and keep going with good groups when you see em. Doesn't take a while to know when one is good and if it isn't.

>>384535320
Are you ok man

>>384535841
>puggin O2s
fucking pain in the ass

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>make content that's supposed to last until the next expansion
thats not what XIV is despite what wowbabbies think

>>384535875
It would destroy the economy, prove me wrong

>>384535440

Crafting has gotten so fucking easy at endgame, too. Like if you even pay a little bit of attention it is nearly impossible to not HQ your crafts at this point.

>>384532928
>>384532547
Weren't these fights not actually 18 hours long, and the people who did them were just shitters? I could have sworn people cleared them back when I played.

christ, neo exdeath is all previous mechanics in the game pretty much. so Much shit going on

>>384536069
What economy? The one where shit sells for either 10 million or 1 gil, where people undercut each other constantly until nothing is worth anything anymore?

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>>384535414
>>384535691
>>384535975

It's just that. I organize things, events, projects. And i do not understand why these people choose to throw a wrench in everyone's plan.
All it takes is a response. Yes, no. Will you be there ? No ? It's fine, anything is fine but no response and people just fucking off without telling anyone i wish to kill them and erase them because it's a form of evil. It destroys lives.

>>384536069
No? Crafting would be more accessible yeah but relative prices would adjust to accommodate. And maybe an economy crash isn't so bad, prices are inflated as fuck on my server anyway.

>>384536183
Still 22 mil on my server for chocobo/carbuncle house

>>384534518
Legion at launch has a raid with four difficult tiers. They added mythic+ for scaling dungeons, the ability to endlessly upgrade the XIV equivalent of a relic weapon, continued with pet battles, made world quests which are better and more important than fates which might as well be removed from the game, has actual PvP that isnt some weird standalone shit and multiple factions. Probably more I forgot. Im really honestly 100% disappointed in SB launch.

They should have had Uznair, POTD 2.0, Diadem 3.0, the first raid in both modes, and a faction ready at LAUNCH for people to do.

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>>384535658
>Lockouts work to prevent this
What part of "the most-obsessed players will always be prepared" do you not understand? The obsessed players are the only ones that complain about how quickly things can be completed in an MMO, and they are always instantly ready for any new content.

>>384520563
black temple was complete 4 hours after its release.

>>384536069
>Prove me wrong
Easy. No matter what they did to crafters or their cross class skills it wouldn't destroy the french economy fuck you fag you didn't specify Checkmate.

>>384534374
No you didn't

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>>384536209
Haha y-yeah man I totally agree, ha...

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>>384524194
How do you isntall this? First parser for me

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>the 50-60 SAM quests
So good.
Shame the 60-70 quests were such a downgrade in quality. Makoto was cute though.

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>>384536209
>anon is fine but he got possessed by an edgy asshole
shouldnt have shit talked america bro

>>384520563
There is always going to be a group of people who want to be first at everything for bragging rights, and will dive hardcore into a game.

This happens in every freaking game. Even niche phone games with a population of 100 still has those groups.

>>384527964
>Liked both
>Can't get over how good Distant Worlds was.
Help.

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>Omega 4S was cleared with a monk in the party
/v/ was wrong again!

>>384536661
Would've cleared faster if they had a SAAM desu

>>384536661
wtf i love monks now

>>384536706
It'll change to monk most likely after they get more gear, they needed the mantra for now

>>384536706
Mantra is what won it for them, so nope.

>>384536135
>>384536661
>Almagest
>twelve fucking thousand dot tick
This is why you need a MNK

>>384536792
I meant SAM

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>>384525328
I think an SE rep has already said Caius is the strongest FF villain

but that might just have been them shilling their newer games over the older ones

>>384529738
>do quest for 15 minutes
>artificial time gate
>have no reason to even play the game now
WoW shills are dumb

2 more groups have beaten O4S

>>384536325
>He doesn't know how lockouts and timegates work!

>>384536935
how many in total? there was 3 groups total 9 hours ago

>>384536523
It's not about shitsockers it's about what clearing in a day means for the rest of the population. The first 2 encounters are puggable, most people with decent statics can finish probably this week or next week. Then they're effectively content capped for the next 3 months.

>>384536976
7

>>384536976
7

>>384522310
i didn't skip any cut scenes or dialog. I really enjoyed the story and all the content up to the current end game. Also anyone that does what you wrote is a fucking retard, this game has a free trail if you play it and don't like it stop playing the end game isn't going to mask you suddenly love the game.

>>384524194
can i use this in exclusive fullscreen mode?

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>>384535868
>What are cast time

>>384536252
>Legion at launch has a raid with four difficult tiers.

you had to wait for Emerald Nightmare

>They added mythic+ for scaling dungeons

you make increasing numbers sound like new content

>the ability to endlessly upgrade the XIV equivalent of a relic weapon

what's so good about an endless grind to chase after? more damage so you have an even easier time in Vault of the Wardens++++++?

>continued with pet battles

don't tell me you actually give a fuck about watered down pokemon, at least XIV's minion game made an attempt at something different

>made world quests which are better and more important than fates which might as well be removed from the game

I have no love for fates but WoW's worldquests are just as boring and are only relevant because it's an alternative for gear / artifact / rep grinding

>has actual PvP that isnt some weird standalone shit

How is XIV's pvp not "actual" pvp?

>and multiple factions.

that are all fucking identical except the nightfallen, its just world quests until you get your lootbox

quantity does not equal quality

>>384531453
>implying the ticks of regen are even worth it most of the time since recasting Darkside burns it

>>384537201
2.6 seconds for fire 4 under the effects of leylines, whats your point?

>>384537301
Should be way faster than that at 70 with spell speed in account

I'm at 67 and it's 2.27 with ley lines

>>384532426
That's what they've been doing though, you think those Goblin designs are exclusive to Eorzea?

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Yo those are all fucking fantastic..
But this though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b96rrbo-_Ik
BUT THIS THOUGH
Nothing will ever fucking top it to me. It's the fucking best and I don't care who says otherwise! GOAT

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SB doesnt exactly have quality either.

Are people like OP really trying to say that because the best players already cleared the content, while they themselves haven't or even entered it, they are "done" with it?