ITT: shitballs of wasted potential that make you angry

The bias 4chan has against wasted potential is ridiclious. People consider games that are still 7/10's or 8/10's garage just because it could have been a 9/10 instead.

>let's do a remake except make it have less content than a game we made 9 years before

>>384447361
Makes complete sense if you consider that the 4chan userbase is nothing but wasted potential and they all hate themselves.

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I can't enjoy Hoenn anymore. For some reason this game sucked all the joy out of it. I tried to replay emerald afterwards and it just felt bad.

>>384447361
>OR/AS
>7/10
Not even.

>>384447192
Least its better than Sun and Moon. I'm playing the fuck outta ORAS still

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>Zinnia

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>>384448301
>Zinnia

>>384447361
>ORAS
>7/10
maybe if it actually had a fucking battle frontier

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ORAS was a good remake. It had everything Emerald did except the battle arena. And if you are planning to spend 150 hours in the end game playing single player stuff, then why are you even playing Pokemon? The end game is suppose to be about breeding and battling live people, which ORAS had (and improved over Emerald).

In before legion of angry Pokemon fans with no counter points besides "ur an idiot" and "shit taste".

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ya, emerald is my favorite pokemon game

I wanted ORAS to be liek HGSS where they use crystal as a base, instead we got this piece of shit

>>384448790
>It had everything Emerald did except the battle arena
>trick house gutted
>mauville gutted
>no gym leader rematches
>game casualized to hell and back

and the battle frontier is a HUGE factor

Fuck OR/AS, this game is already irrelevant while emerald will live forever

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It still hurts

>>384448851
>game casualized to hell and back

ORAS is pretty bad, sure, but people GREATLY EXAGGERATE the difficulty of Gen 1-3, when I was a kid I steamrolled all three with a starter.

>>384448884
even if this game reached its potential it'd be mediocre. This is what Berseria is

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>>384447192
>The Battle Frontier Project has started!

>>384448345
>didn't even need to edit the eyes
I chuckled.

>>384448925
no one says gen 1-3 is hard, in fact they're easy as shit (outside of battle frontier). This is why making the games even easier exacerbates the situation

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>>384448790
>its okay the game is lacking a post-game because I don't care about the post-game personally

Not to mention the fact the game is just easier than RS

>>384448952
>>384448345
Both of these summarize both Zinnia and the entire Delta shit so much

Remember how HGSS managed to play off of Crystal instead of literally just shoehorning in a piss easy, corny aftergame

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>people STILL defend oras's lack of emerald content because it's a remake of ruby and sapphire and not emerald, and conveniently forget all the crystal shit in hgss
this game was supposed to salvage gen 6, and yet it only made it worse

>>384448884
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>>384449016
that's because based morimoto, the guy responsible for emerald, did HG/SS

the fucktard who did OR/AS did X/Y and S/M

there is hope though, US/UM seems to be done by the guy who directed B2/W2

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>>384449016
I wouldn't be surprised that the multiverse shit that ORAS introduced would be too complicated for a personafag to understand

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>>384448790
>ORAS was a good remake
>Changed existing areas that had no reason to be changed. For example, there is no possible way to get Aron without first getting the bike, requiring you to backtrack to get a now extremely underleveled pokemon
>looks like absolute shit, 2D game in 3D space and it's not like gen 6 was good looking as a whole in the first place
>Game didn't even attempt to re-balance itself around megas existing, in fact did the opposite by giving you a free (MEGA) Lati and EXP. All instead of share
>inb4 just box it/turn it off bro, that's not the point
>adds almost no way to get new pokemon added outside of legendaries, even after getting the national dex, unlike HG/SS which at least had the decency to do that safari zone thing.
>tries to go full lorefag with delta episode and hoopa and ends up falling flat on it's face
>Mirage islands require a certain time and date
>flying on lati was cool the first time, but after needing to watch that opening animation every single time it's faster to just use the HM
>no rematches
>most redesigns suck
>shit like the diving/heat suit felt shoehorned in to add a more "epic" experience. I was perfectly fine with just walking in a cave into the lair of Groudon from gen 3.
>copy-pasted barebones battle mansion from X/Y. I don't even like the BF but that's lazy as shit. I understand that HG/SS and Plat did it too, but those were 4 different facilities plus Battle Tower, Battle Mansion is just the Battle Tower with a different paintjob.
>Delta episode, the one thing that could have been neat, had the climax spoiled months beforehand and Zinnia really dampened the whole experience with her stupidity.

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>>384449129
>US/UM seems to be done by the guy who directed B2/W2
Holy fuck is this true?
God yes

>>384449137
Oh yeah, that entire thing that was only used as an excuse to shoehorn legendary encounters instead of adding cool locations?

Great addition, really makes this game Pokemon Kino

>>384449257
>Holy fuck is this true?
>God yes

he's the only one of the previous game directors to have updated his twitter with US/UM so there is a good chance

>>384449016

>Not to mention the fact the game is just easier than RS
This argument is always so stupid. Its Pokemon. They're all easy. The only way to make it harder is lower EXP rates and make you grind more. You want that? Don't use EXP Share.

>>384449257
>he doesn't know that Ultraspace is the dead nonmega timeline that would have resulted had Zinnia not interfered with the original plan of averting the asteroid

>>384449365
>ITS POKEMON DEYRE ALWAYS EASY
The difference between easy and ORAS easy is the fact that Emerald didn't spoonfeed you shit and underpower everything else in the world

>>384448694
>>384448136
Minus the game corner, ORAS still has all the content RS did, along with additions and improvements. If ORAS isn't a 7/10, then you must think R/S is a 5/10.

Otherwise, you are demonstrating the exact bullshit i'm calling out.

>>384449021
It not having emerald's content is retarded, but you judge a game by what it is, not what it's not.

>>384449783
i judge it as an easier, ugly version of rs with slightly less content

>>384449783
Yeah just the Game Corner, Battle Frontier, Trainer Hill, or an expanded Safari Zone

>j-just judge the game for what it is
Its a downgrade then.

>>384449929
I hate ORAS but none of that except Game Corner was in RS. Reread his post.

>>384447192
I liked it more than BW, BW2, XY and even SM.

>>384449783
>then you must think R/S is a 5/10.

it was, R/S was extremly underwhelming compared to G/S. Emerald saved gen 3, which is why OR/AS is a piece of shit

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>>384449229

>Changed existing areas that had no reason to be changed. For example, there is no possible way to get Aron without first getting the bike, requiring you to backtrack to get a now extremely underleveled pokemon
This is kind of a subjective thing. Some areas got changed for the better. Like some towns have more buildings and NPCs in them. They gave people an option to skip water routes because of fan hate (while also allowing you to explore those routes if you want to). And etc. But of course you're going to focus on a part you personally don't like while I'll point out changes I did like so might as well call it a wash.

>looks like absolute shit, 2D game in 3D space and it's not like gen 6 was good looking as a whole in the first place
It doesn't look like the anime. But its still a great improvement over the original game (and Gen IV and V). And despite being fully 3D, some aspects were actually done faster than the 2D games. The initial battle animations are faster than Gen V's molasses and they even gave you a way to find Pokemon faster. But you know, those are just pesky things apparently.

>Game didn't even attempt to re-balance itself around megas existing, in fact did the opposite by giving you a free (MEGA) Lati and EXP. All instead of share
All Pokemon games are horribly broken. I'm all for them rebalancing, but come on. No gen has ever fixed these flaws. Not even Gen III and IV which went back and changed the stats and movesets for all previous Pokemon. This is hardly the fault of Gen VI.

>inb4 just box it/turn it off bro, that's not the point
What?

>>384449981
Oh I see

So instead of taking two games and mixing it with elements from the third remake, like HGSS did, it just took the core games and threw out everything E brought to the table

Thats even worse

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>>384450072

>adds almost no way to get new pokemon added outside of legendaries, even after getting the national dex, unlike HG/SS which at least had the decency to do that safari zone thing.
Yeah, that was a bad move.

>tries to go full lorefag with delta episode and hoopa and ends up falling flat on it's face
Another rather subjective thing. Seen a pretty 50/50 split on people who loved the story and people who hated it.

>Mirage islands require a certain time and date
Some stuff in Emerald had a similar mechanic.

>flying on lati was cool the first time, but after needing to watch that opening animation every single time it's faster to just use the HM
True I guess. Don't think the visual was that bad and appreciate being able to use a Pokemon outside of your team for transportation. What was really a problem is the lackluster islands to 'explore'.

>no rematches
I never really cared about this, but they probably should have kept them in since they didn't keep battle frontier.

>most redesigns suck
Another subjective point. I like a lot of the redesigns (except smaller tits on you know who).

>shit like the diving/heat suit felt shoehorned in to add a more "epic" experience.
Diving was introduced in Gen 3 so of course they were going to do it again for the remake. And they actually cut down on the amount of diving you needed to do compared to R/S/E.

>copy-pasted barebones battle mansion from X/Y. I don't even like the BF but that's lazy as shit. I understand that HG/SS and Plat did it too, but those were 4 different facilities plus Battle Tower, Battle Mansion is just the Battle Tower with a different paintjob.
True. This is the major flaw most people cite.

>Delta episode, the one thing that could have been neat, had the climax spoiled months beforehand and Zinnia really dampened the whole experience with her stupidity.
Pretty par for the course when it comes to Pokemon "story". Way better than the endless cutscenes in B/W.

There was no potential to waste. Hoenn wasn't very good to begin with, and it wasn't like the current state of Pokemon when ORAS came out should have left anyone expecting the experience would be improved.

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>>384450072
>Removing content and locking it is subjective.
No. Pokemon games were never hard, but they should never be braindead to the point on where you no longer have to explore a cave, which is exactly what OR/AS removed.
>It doesn't look anime
I don't want it to look anime. I want top down. don't want these disgusting overworld models and boxy environments. which is exactly what you get when you turn a 2D game into a 3D one. I don't care about battle animations taking forever because I can turn those off. What I can't turn off is the overworld. I'd take sprites any fucking day to this.

>All Pokemon games are horribly broken.
No they're not. No other game prior to X/Y just gives you absurdly strong pokemon for complete free. Even if you count the box legendary, that's at the tail end of every game. Meanwhile, X/Y throws you a second starter complete with a mega stone and a mega Lucario to go with it.
You can grind exclusively your starter I guess, but at that point then the game will never not be broken because there will always be a pokemon to grind to 100 and solo the game with, not to mention that nobody past the age of 5 actually does that.

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>>384449229
>no rematches
this fucking infuriates me to no end
>gym leaders have dialogue if you talk to them after league
>gym leaders are in trainers eye or whatever in the bottom screen thing
>you can find gym leaders in random places around the region
like how THE FUCK can they not include rematches. just thinking about stupid fuckups in a retarded childrens game gets my blood boiling. ORAS is one of my least favorite games of all time, holy shit

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>>384450674

>I don't want it to look anime. I want top down.
While the game is 3D, it is still mimicking the top down view of the original. I don't see your problem unless the 3D made movement slower or NPC interaction worse. Which from my view, it didn't. Like I said in a previous post, it actually made some things faster. I was also worried that movement in grass or in buildings would be impacted by the 3D graphics. But I was pleasantly surprised when the game retained the fast movement and D-Pad controls of the original. Only thing that was impacted was the bike controls from my view.

>No other game prior to X/Y just gives you absurdly strong pokemon for complete free.
In pretty much every game, one starter is totally broken. In Emerald, it was Blaziken. You could defeat three of the elite four with just Blaziken spamming Sky Uppercut or Flame Punch. And most gym leaders. This game actually nerfed Blaziken a little.

>>384448694
Battle frontier was fucking boring. I never did any of that shit as a kid.

>>384450184
The mirage island having an extremely small proc chance in Emerald has nothing to do with the set dates for them to appear in OR/AS and doesn't make them not a pain in the ass to get to all of them.

By diving suit I meant the magma suit. I played OR and just assumed AS's equivalent was one for deep water.

>way better than the endless cutscenes in B/W
For someone who harps on my critiques on subjectiveness, you sure do like to use it yourself.

>>384447361
You are absolutely right anon
We should all learn from reddit and learn to lower our standards and accept mediocrity
criticism is a toxic concept anyway, right?

>>384447192
X and Y, oras and sun and mokn have been a downward slope. I wouldnt have even played sun if itbwasnt bought for me as a gift. I'm just glad they havent fucked up DPPt yet.

>>384451216
Funny story. When I was a kid I had a guide for emerald saying the mirage island appears once in a blue moon. I took that literally and waited for a blue moon even though gen 3 didn't have a calendar.

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>>384451216

I honestly don't remember any suit in ORAS so I assume it had a pretty minor part. I was talking about the actual diving. Which in Emerald, the last 1/3 the game is full of fucking diving. That whole right side of the map. They toned it down a lot in ORAS from what I remember.

And I was pointing out your views are subjective to point out that mine are subjective too. I wasn't harping on your argument. I felt like the cutscenes and story in B/W completely killed the pace of the game. You may think differently and that's fine. Just like we have different views about stuff in ORAS. Not trying to change your mind, just pointing out that some things you have issues with didn't bother me.

>>384447424

Really? How so?

>>384451142
Sounds more like you were a boring kid.

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>>384447361
That's because we ourselves are wasted potential but unlike developers, we aren't getting paid for it.

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Everything since the 3DS has been one long tutorial. And with no meaningful or fun end game it's very unsatisfying

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>>384449229
>no casino replacement minigame like Voltorb Flip

>>384447361
ORAS is a 5/10 max and a 3/10 when you know emerald exists and came out 10 years before it

Replayed ORAS recently and it was awful. I legit got so upset at the game after giving me cutscene after cutscene after cutscene in addition to the handholding (Hey here's HM XX so you don't have to do any exploring!) that I wanted to just ragequit and lose a ton of progress because I hadn't saved in a while. I powered through but damn this whole cinematic experience that games try to give you nowdays is so bullshit. I want to play a game I want to press buttons and move my character not watch fucking cutscenes all day. Fuck modern Pokemon and modern games in general really.

>>384448790
>The end game is suppose to be about breeding and battling live people

okay m8. Its not like hgss have a shit ton of playable postgame that doesnt require going full autist and iv breeding. Even FRLG had more shit to do.

>>384448790
>breeding

until they remove IVs or fix them so they can be increased like EVs (no that trash coin shit in S/M is just as tedious as amassing dittos) I will continue to inject

How do you go from this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

To this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA

It didn't even have any SMT characters in it!

>>384452938
>try breeding legally
>realise I made one minor mistake and wasted hours of time
>stop playing
>don't play Pokémon again for months
I get 20 years ago they thought it would be neat if every Pokémon was different but in reality all it does is say "most mons are worth shit, especially the ones you spent the whole game playing with".

>>384453292
this is why you inject/play showdown

20 years ago the game wasn't even supposed to have multiplayer and was an afterthought, that's why the game is so fucking unbalanced with psychic raping eveything, bugs sucking dick and only there for the early game, ice being made only to counter dragonite, etc.

>>384451484
>Post game battle facilities removed, replaced with half-assed literal copypasta battle tower but from france on this island
>Several dungeons scooped out and made into small, encounterless rooms with the goal 10 steps away from the door
>No rematches with Gym Leaders
>Safari zone turned into standard route
>Casino removed, no replacement
>Plot went from dumb, to absolutely fucking retarded
>Game is far easier, even without exp share memes
>Delta episode has cool premise, but is destroyed by hilariously bad writing
There are a few other more lateral complaints, but I think that's most of it

>2017
>actually playing recent pokemon games
the series is over folks. go home.