>not even polygon is shill their game anymore Man it was

Who the fuck even cared about Laylee?

>>384389227
Mostly all the video game sites going

>this will surely be Banjo Kazooie level!

And all the dickriding that was happening. Then one bad review comes out and everyone shut up fast. Of course the jontron incident didnt help, but if the game was good, it wouldnt have mattered.

>>384389117
it released, it delivered on the "like a n64 platformer" promise in a generally competent but not especially groundbreaking way, it was played by those who enjoyed it and dropped by those who didn't

I don't know what you're expecting, but this is how it goes for games that don't rock the status quo or sustain an active multiplayer community

>>384389340
except good games like BK and OoT, and Mario 64 were talked about for months after its release. But your game losing any kind of news means it flopped hard.

>>384389340
>competent
kek

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Yooka is fine, the latest patch fixed some issues people were bitching about (voices, camera, controls, etc...)
I would like to see some extra worlds, maybe exclusives to consoles (like Spiral Mountain for xbox, Jungle Japes for switch or Sandover Village/N.Sanity Beach for ps4).

Why would gaming sites take about games if they were out for months?

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>Complain about there not being a new true Banjo-Kazooie game in more than a decade
>"But you have Yooka-Laylee, stop complaining!"

Dropped it during the space level with that moon boss battle, the game is just crappy.

>>384389973
>I would like to see some extra worlds, maybe exclusives to consoles (like Spiral Mountain for xbox, Jungle Japes for switch or Sandover Village/N.Sanity Beach for ps4).
What kind of logic is this?
are you retarded?

Please kill yourself.

>>384389442
>except good games like BK and OoT, and Mario 64 were talked about for months after its release
Because they were a new thing then.

How are you not smart enough to realize this?

firing jontron was the best ad campaign they can think of

>>384390362
?

>>384390362
Thats his wishes, not logic

Are YOU retarded?

>>384390460
>game comes out
>never spoken about after a week

YK backers on suicide watch

>>384389117
SJW'S WON'T BUY YOUR GAME
SO APPEALING TO THEM IS KIND OF LAME

ATTACK GAMERS, THE ONES THAT CONSUME
MAKING FREE MONEY, IS WHAT YOU PRESUME

YOUR GAME IS A FLOP, AND IT'S KINDA FUNNY
YOU DESERVE THIS, WHEN YOU ACT LIKE A DUMMY

YOU DID EVERYTHING WRONG, AND YOU'VE GOT NO ONE TO BLAME
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR PLAYING THEIR GAME

HUH

>>384390326
Shame, I thought the set-up to Planette was great, almost enough to redeem the shitty boat

i see this game for 6 dollars, i still didn't and i won't buy it.
just because of jontron

>needing sites to talk about your game to have fun with it

>>384389117
is this game in the bargain bin yet? I wouldn't mind playing it but I really don't want to pay more than $15

>>384391721
Pretty good

Can someone explain to me why collectathons are fun to them? I genuinely don't understand the appeal.

Nuts and Bolts is unironically my favorite banjo. I played the n64 ones when they were new but did not like them. Born in 93

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>>384389117
Where the fuck is the Switch version? They can't even give this game to the primary audience they're pandering to.

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>>384391721

>>384393225
Back in the day when you got maybe one or two games in a year, having a lot of "content" in the games was a good way to keep yourself interested.

There were also no internet guides to show you where everything was, so you had to find it all yourself.

>>384393225
I like exploring stuff and collecting shit.

>>384390460
And you're not smart enough to realize those very same games are talked about to this day.

>>384394146
Because they were seen as revolutionary at the time, it's like how Elvis and the Beatles still gets played today, rather than the later bands that tried to capture their style.
Famous firsts

>>384391721
Guffaw it's like the DK rap

>>384394146
Because they were the first, and because people are nostalgic over them.

Do you sit and talk about how amazing the second person to discover fire was?

No one cares anymore because there's a far better 3D platformer out now. I was just playing yooka, PS1 Crash, PS1 Spyro, SM3DW, and Gex 3 in anticipation for N Sane Trilogy.
Yooka was the worst of them all. Never was a fan of Banjo.

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>>384391721
SHIP WRECK

>>384389117
>And now where's the news. Fucking kek
why the fuck would there be news about a singleplayer game that already released a couple of months back?

>if you liked Rare collectathons you'll love this game :)
>worse level design than Kazooie, Tooie, and DK64
>worse bosses than Tooie and DK64
>worse minigames than Tooie and DK64
>worse camera than all three
>less to actually do than all three
>no actual secrets to find
>garbage multiplayer which is just the crappy minigames
>they're still "patching" it

>>384389117
heh jokes on you faggot
I'll still buy it on my switch and there's nothing you niggers can do to stop me

>ran into a bug that prevented me from getting 100%
>"We'll fix this in the next patch"
>months go by
>patch comes out
>it's pc only
>"We're working on the console patch. It's coming soon!"
>been months since then

FUCK I just want my platinum so I can delete this shit

>>384397043
If you need space on your HD, just delete it now and reinstall it when there's a patch.
Your save file won't get deleted, just the install.

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>>384397043
which bug? i got a factory sealed copy a few days ago for under 10 bucks and 100% it last night. i never heard of a gamebreaking bug

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>THE ORIGINAL BANJO TEAM IS GETTING TOGETHER TO MAKE A SPIRITUAL SUCCESS TO BANJO-KAZOOIE
>YOOKA-LAYLEE HAS THE SAME MINDS BEHIND THE SUCCESSFUL N64 GAME
>IT'S AMAZING HOW PLAYTONIC MANAGED TO ROUND UP EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THE ORIGINAL BANJO-KAZOOIE FOR THIS NEW PROJECT
>it's actually like two people and Kirkhope
>everyone else is late Xbox360 era Rare or just artists for other early Rare games
>literally not even half of the actual Banjo team

the real question i have is: what the hell was the QA team even doing?

>>384392117

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>>384391721

>>384397947
The casino glitch. If you turn in multiple coins and get multiple pagies and then turn off the game it deletes the last pagie you got but still takes your coins.

>>384398541
oh, that would suck. sorry m80

>>384396792
>No actual secrets
What do you call the pirate treasure then?

>>384398541
I thought it was just if you turn off the game without forcing it to save first

>>384389973
>Advocating for exclusives
Kys yourself my man

>>384389117
>That time Jontron beat up a black guy on stream while calling him a nigger
Those poor developers never asked for that drama

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>promises to be a return to the glory days of 3D platforming
>upstaged by Crash and Mario Odyssey, the latter doing a lot of things Yooka did but likely better
It wasn't a bad game but didn't live up to initial expectations, and it's probably going to be my least favorite out of the 3 games I mentioned, hell Sonic Forces might even be better.

>>384389117
Yooka laylee backlash on /v/eddit is proof that people here are underage and never even played BK and were just expecting a masterpiece platformer. To guys like me who actually was 5 years old when BK came out and played it from my early childhood years until my young adult years, I can say Yooka Laylee is a fantastic 3D platformer that ranks high on the list. I 100% and I want to 100% it again once the N64 shader tonic is released.

>>384400331
Crash was especially a blow because if you really think about it a large percentage of people who enjoy it, also love the collecting aspect which Yooka also revolves around.

But with Crash the collectibles are usually bread-crumbed throughout each level and the fun was the difficulty was trying to carefully get each one. Yooka's biggest problem was that it thought the sole idea of collecting stuff in itself is fun and just threw a bunch of shit large maps and said go. It's like those random collectibles in GTA or crackdown decided to make an entire game progression based on that and it's not particularly good design.

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>>384400847
>less levels
>recycles NPCs instead of having unique ones for each world
>takes quiz gimmick used at end of Kazooie for a laugh and recycles it THRICE while completely missing the point of the original quiz (to test your general knowledge of the game at the very end)
>worse minigames than Tooie
>worlds aren't interconnected like Tooie
>instead of rewarding you for exploration with new moves you can just buy everything at once
>music goes for ambience instead of being upbeat and memorable
>minecart segments for no reason other than to reel in people who liked them in DKC, but they added boosting/braking/shooting so it doesn't even play the same
>Rextro has an arcade where they could have made little games similar to things Rare did on the NES but instead they reuse existing assets and have a bunch of poorly made shit given jankier animations to seem "retro" including Flappy Bird
You're only defending it because you desperately wanted that 3D collectathon revival.

>>384396792
>if you liked Rare collectathons you'll love this game :)
That's true. As a old school N64 famer5i loved this game
>worse level design than Kazooie, Tooie, and DK64
Really? You're saying Yookas level design is worse than barren waste land Tooie and DK64? Yookas levels are great
>worse bosses than Tooie and DK64
But I think both those games have good bosses and Tooie has good bosses minus the ice wall
>worse minigames than Tooie and DK64
Not worse than DK64. Tooie had good mini games and Yooka has some good and some bad
>worse camera than all three
Never ever had a problem with the camera. Never understood this complaint
>less to actually do than all three
Wrong. If anything there is more to do. More items to find, more mini games, more moves to unlock
>no actual secrets to find
Those pirate skulls aren't secrets?
>garbage multiplayer which is just the crappy minigames
I'll give you that, some of the mini games in Yooka are bad.
>they're still "patching" it
PC master race is patched. Sorry console peasants

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>>384400847
>people here are underage and never even played BK and were just expecting a masterpiece platformer
Banjo is legitimately good. Yooka has no idea what it wants to be and throws out a bunch of concepts from three of Rare's N64 platformers hoping they'll stick, which most don't.

>>384389117
generally that's what happens before something comes out

>>384391721
JONTRON IS A FAG
HE SHITS IN A BAG
IF YOU WATCH HIS VIDEOS YOU SHOULDN'T BRAG

>>384401534
>it's not the exact same as Tooie and Kazooie!
>things don't play out exactly the same!!

Opinion immediately thrown in the trash.

>>384389117
It should have been a Switch release, and the characters needed something extra to make then interesting.

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>>384401604
>You're saying Yookas level design is worse than barren waste land Tooie and DK64?
tooie and dk at least sprinkled trails of collectibles around to attempt to mask it. yooka treats Quills like jiggies and golden bananas for some reason so you often get areas with nothing but three atop one platform in the distance
galleon galaxy and the casino are the worst when it comes to that

>>384389442
>your game
why do you care so much?

>>384401957
>people insult the game
>UGH, EVERYONE BITCHING IS JUST UNDERAGE AND DIDN'T APPRECIATE THE ORIGINAL LIKE ME. IT'S JUST LIKE IT.
>but here are ways it's objectively inferior to the original games
>WHY DO YOU WANT IT TO BE THE SAME CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS DIFFERENT
So which is it?

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>>384401687
>Tfw Banjo-Kazooie got retroactively shit on because people didn't like Yooka-Laylee

>>384401687
don't try to argue with these people. they'll desperately cling to anything at this point since the genre is dead no matter how mediocre

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Snek Pass was way better

I liked it; it's about as fun as Tooie albeit far less ambitious, and a lot better than DK64. They've never been able to top Kazooie though because the levels being smaller benefited the style of platformer tremendously, and since then all Rare's done is try to broaden the scope to no avail.

>>384401604
>and Tooie has good bosses minus the ice wall
Did you mean YL? Also most of its bosses suck.
>Rampo is a wall
>swamp octopus thing was basic as fuck and seemed like more of a first boss
>minecart boss was a glorified Kartos track
>space world boss was really easy and basically another wall
>Capital B drags on and has flying that's less fun than Kazooie

>>384403001
not him, but Tooie's bosses felt like more of a novelty than an actual challenge. Yooka was the same way, but only the swamp, cashino and capital B were on par with them. Rampo and the castle boss were just plain bad.

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>>384401687
>spiritual successor to Kazooie
>but levels are big and wide like Tooie
>but levels aren't connected to each other like Tooie, they're isolated like Kazooie
>devs insisted people who liked Kazooie can play it like Kazooie instead of Tooie
>except off the bat the levels give you the complete total of collectibles and you can't collect everything unless you expand
>no reason to not expand as soon as you can
>therefore you'll just be playing a more confined Tooie

>>384403410
I have to agree with that, the world expanding was handled really hamfistedly despite being a neat concept.

>>384389318
>Of course the jontron incident didnt help
link?

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>>384391721
Im put off by most posts that contain "SJW" but this is the first one in a while with some creativity behind it so good work Anon.

>>384403001
The space world in general was a disappointment.
>purple jungle

Yooka-Laylee gets mediocre reviews
>JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>WHAT WENT WRONG
>I HURT MYSELF TODAY

Crash gets mediocre reviews
>Lol game "journalists" are fucking retarded anyways, who cares!

reminder that Sonybros are a cancer upon the earth and need their own board.

@384404134
Yooka is on PS4. No (You) for you.

>>384404307
What's your point?

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>>384404408
At least the N&B levels have some semblance of creativity, although I'll never forgive this.

>>384404134
>one attempts to mimick a successful series and falls short
>the other is a remake of a trilogy well received in the past
???

>>384404408
>>384404821
Fun fact: environmental designers from N&B work at Playtonic

>>384404307
>@
please learn how to use 4chan

No (You) for you too, above Anon.

>>384390570
>hiring an e-celeb faggot
>firing an e-celeb faggot
that alone was a giant red flag to steer clear of the game and any people talking about it
yooka laylee can stay go

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>>384404134
>BUT SONY
That's not gonna work this time, m8.

>>384405113
My main problem with the whole debacle is now people retroactively shit on the original games. That's just not fair.

>>384389340
No it didn't. I played Banjo Kazooie recently before Yooka came out and I enjoyed it immensely. Laylee was nothing like it other than in concept. I don't know how they did it but the art style and world design just sucked all the charm out of the game. It's one of those things you know is just flat out bad when you experience it but can't quite pinpoint why.

>>384405113
>that alone was a giant red flag to steer clear of the game
So was
>Unity

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:(

>>384405527
>blaming the engine

every single unreal engine game runs like total shit. is that because unreal is shit, or because developers are shit?

>>384405396
They went back and played the old games and realized they weren't as good as they remembered them being.

>>384405630
Oh shut the fuck up.

>>384405748
this is the case for most of the N64 library

it's a fucking HORRIBLE game, it doesn't even function properly

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>>384390570
>>384405113
>Jon praises Banjo in a video
>GameGrumps happens
>Arin plays it terribly and as a result starts shitting on it because it's always the game's fault
>Jon being spineless as usual admits it isn't that good because Arin said something negative
>fast-forward a bit
>Jon livestreams the Xbox version of Banjo
>repeatedly dies and gets frustrated
>says FUCK IT and opens an emulator
>activates cheats to get to the end
Looking back it's super obvious he only liked it as a kid.

>>384405228
>>384404619

>>384404619
>>384406001
Why'd you cry Sony in the first place?

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>>384389117
it was just a really bad banjo clone, but with levels being fucking massive for no reason.
its like they thought bigger would be better, but there were only 5 worlds.
finding shit in yooka laylee was a fucking chore.

I legitimately boycotted this game after the Jontron incident, I don't even agree with what he said but memory holing a voice actor because you disagree with their personal conduct is kind of fucked up

>>384405998
I remember that stream too. Said he would play through the entirety of it and then gave up. Hell, he wasn't even playing it most of the time. What a fucking phony asshole.

>>384404821
>literally been waiting for a new banjo since 2000 when I completed Tooie
>crushed that the new Banjo is a car game, But I slowly warm up to the idea of it
>pick this game up after school in 2008 after grade 9 class
>make peace that the game is a car game and not a 3d platformer
>start up game
>this part comes up "collect as much as you can"
>big fucking smile appears on my face "maybe there will be some mini collecting parts sprinkled through out, thats better than nothing"
>for all of 3 seconds I'm having a fucking blast
>the game stops and the text in your picture pops up
>my smile vanishes and crushes me again
>the game is basically telling me what I like is boring and that I will like the cars better
>game takes me back to the cutscene and warps me to showdowntown
>So disappointed by that cold hearted trick that I dropped the game and didn't pick ot back up for a few years

That's a true story. And what a Great way to start off your game...

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>>384405998
>X IS THE BEST GAME EVER IT'S REALLY GOOD
>it's shit jon
>Y-YEAH X IS PRETTY OUTDATED
Every time

>>384400847
you don't understand what makes banjo good.

>>384389117
The game is great. Fuck off tortanic poster. Getting real tired of you faggots shitting on everything.

>>384406458
It should be a well known fact by now that Jontron is just a stupid fucking bandwagoner that can't think for himself.

>>384406110
Because they are cancer.
They claim reviews dont matter when a Sony exclusive* nostalgia fueled 3D platformer revival gets mediocre reviews, but when a non-sony exclusive nostalgia fueled 3D platformer revival gets mediocre reviews, they want to regurgitate memes and scream BTFO

>>384406593
>The amount of Splatoon 2 doomed threads today
It's sad but true

>>384406458
>they dropped Conker because they were too stupid to finish the tutorial segment
Then again, it's probably a good thing they did.

>>384406593
So what you're saying is that you stupidly assume anyone bringing up complaints to laugh at something is a Sony fan? So if I were to laugh at Mass Effect Andromeda, you'd scream cancer and complain about Sony ruining everything?

>>384391721
Better than the rap they threw together in YL.

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>>384404134
>>384406593
You're an idiot.
inb4 you accuse me of being pro-Sony because reasons.

>>384404134
Crash got mediocre reviews?

>>384404134
>Crash gets mediocre reviews
But most of its reviews were positive. And what does Sony have to do with Yooka Laylee getting more negative reviews? What are you even trying to say?

>>384389117
>not even polygon is shill their game anymore
>Man it was months ago
>Man it was months ago
Didn't you just point out yourself why it isn't being talked about all over the place right here?

>>384389340
I kinda of agree. It was competent to a degree but felt like they didn't understand what made the old games work. Felt more like a fan game than a true follow up

I can't get that angry about it, just sort of whatever

>>384407016
No, what I'm saying is that sonyfags are cancer and need a containment board stat.

>>384407221
Yes, shitters complaining about it being "too haaaaaaard" and it being "outdated" because it isn't an FPS or a movie game.

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Looks like his master plan was a success after all

>>384407386
>what I'm saying is that sonyfags are cancer and need a containment board stat.
So why did you come to a Yooka-Laylee thread to cry about that? Do you just need an outlet?

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>>384390362
Why would you lock content behind consoles? Why in the world would you want that? Do you want to be forced into replaying the game on several consoles with an inferior experience for more content?!

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>>384391721

>>384407493
Because they claim reviews dont matter when a Sony exclusive* nostalgia fueled 3D platformer revival gets mediocre reviews, but when a non-sony exclusive nostalgia fueled 3D platformer revival gets mediocre reviews, they want to regurgitate memes and scream BTFO

>>384407480
Having an excuse to no longer make videos?

>>384407591
So what you're saying is that you stupidly assume anyone bringing up complaints to laugh at something is a Sony fan?

>>384407717
No, what I'm saying is that sonyfags are cancer and need a containment board stat.

>>384407591
Crash wasn't pushed as a 3D platformer revival though. It was pushed as Crash's revival.

>>384407890
Crash is a 3D platformer

>>384407591
Anon, you can drop the console warrior act. Even you brought up shitters complaining about the difficulty, so your stance is inconsistent as you're defending a Sony title. Pick a side and try to shitpost confidently in the next thread you visit.

>>384408052
Sony has some good games, Crash and Bloodborne are a couple.
Sonybros are still cancer and need a containment board, though.

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>>384408020
It sure is. Now about it pushing Crash's revival instead of the whole genre..

>>384408193
>Bloodborne
>good
See, you're being the thing you're pretending to criticize.

>>384407591
>80 critic score
>8.9 human score
>came out in the mid 90's originally
>more popular than tekken 7
Very mediocre

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>>384404134
>majority of Yooka-Laylee's reviews are negative
>majority of Crash's reviews are positive
>IT MUST BE THE SONY FANBASE ON /v/

>Jon was their biggest shill
>They got rid of him

Makes no sense tbqh

>>384408201
Show me where I said Crash was a revival of the 3D platformer genre

>>384408301
>Bloodborne
>Bad
And you're proving my point of Sonybros being cancer

>>384408398
>>384408456
Quit bullying him. The poor guy obviously got blasted hard thanks to unreasonable hype for Yooka-Laylee.

>>384406441
>this part comes up "collect as much as you can"
>big fucking smile appears on my face "maybe there will be some mini collecting parts sprinkled through out, thats better than nothing"
I'm legitimately surprised you missed the condescending "go collect a bunch of worthless trash" scene right before that joke begins.

>>384408783
Nah, Yooka-Laylee is better than Kazooie but worse than Tooie and only nostalgiafaggots that haven't played Kazooie since childhood think otherwise

Nice try though

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>>384389117

I swear I must be living in a fucking bizarre world. I've wanted a Banjo game for years and Microsoft's acquisition of Rare was so crippling to me I gave up on that hope years ago.

So to see after two years of hype behind Yooka-Laylee to just see it all fall apart in the final month before release was unbelievable. It's deifnitely not better than Kazooie or Tooie, but it stretched that itch I had for years. I genuinely would like a sequel.

What the fuck killed this game? Jontron? Underage kids that never grew up with Banjo? The game itself? A combination of the three?

>>384409026
It's okay dude. It takes some time to heal after being burned so hard, but you'll make it.

>>384399580
Nope. It saves at the first pagie but not at any others afterwards.

This game really marks the shift in the user base of /v/ to what it is now. Prior to this being announced, when it was just teased, threads were full of hype, just off the idea of a successor alone. When gameplay was first shown, threads were hype. Then a few months before release when more gameplay was shown off, unrepentant shitposting. And up until release it was nothing but shitposting.

>>384390175
Mario Oddysee.

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>>384409151
>What the fuck killed this game?
A team of mostly artists thinking they could replicate what Gregg Mayles did.

>>384406927
Wait, you're not joking, are you?

>>384409457

Gregg's a hack though. N&B is shit and Sea and Theives looks to be jank. No one knows how to modernize Banjo Kazooie.

>>384409390
>When gameplay was first shown, threads were hype. Then a few months before release when more gameplay was shown off, unrepentant shitposting
Funny thing is that the second gameplay trailer showed off the bigger levels and how the game hadn't received any notable improvements. If you go to the video on Playtonic's YouTube page, you can see people disappointed by most of the things shown.

It wouldn't have been such an issue if they didn't announce it had already gone gold.

>>384389117
KEK punishes all traitors

>>384389117
ayy

>>384409628
There was very little to no legitimate criticism here. There weren't any posts of disappointment, There was only
>ITS SHIT HE FELL FOR THE KICKSTARTER SCAM KEK
And that's all it's been ever since.

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>>384409390
>the more you show of an unpolished project, the less people like it
No way.

>>384410213
Fuck off kid. I get it, you get off on shitting on this game.

>>384410283
I'm not shitting on Yooka-Laylee, but you're being a delusional fanboy if you're pretending NOTHING bad was ever said prior to launch. At the time there was the cancellation of the Wii U version so the increase in negativity was expected, particularly surrounding the casino trailer. Today there's no point in praising or shitting on it since its time has passed and it was just okay.

>>384410581
>The cancellation of the Wii U version
Which they more than adequately offered compensation for in the form of upgrading to any other version or refunding the game entirely. But again, that was completely ignored in favor of screaming and smearing shit on the walls due to some strange autism.

>>384410739
Yes, but that wasn't restricted to /v/.
It's nice that they're still updating the game and Switch owners will get a better version at launch.
>due to some strange autism
People's expectations were just ridiculously high based on the core concept. The game was never going to meet the hype due to the team's lack of experience and not knowing what direction to take the game in.

>>384409390
>people were excited when a bunch of old rare guys got together and declared they'd make their own banjo game but got disappointed once it was shown to be standard unity stuff that looked empty and unfinished
great work einstein

>>384411164
He's more referring to /v/'s obsession with being terrible at every given opportunity. There was no reason for the vitriol that this shitty game got before it even released, but boy howdy was it all over /v/, because that's what a particularly active subset of users here on /v/ like to do.

>>384390175
Mario Sunshine was a pretty good collectathon. Not the best mario game IMO, but certainly the closest to what you're looking for.

>>384389117

>not even a gaming news site is talking about a game that came out months ago

wahat

>>384406927
Is that what happened?

>>384411832
thats right

>>384409473
>>384411832
not him, but they talk about it in the first episode of banjo kazooie

>furfaggotry
>dead game genre with little pull outside of a small autistic fanbase (sort of like RTS)
>completely burned bridges with the e-celebfag who shilled their kickstarter in the first place

>>384411832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHKTwwkYol8&t=9m0s
Nine minutes in.

>>384403551
Jontron was planned to voice a bit character in the game as a cameo. He got convinced to get in a political debate with some manlet shiteater e-celeb, and Jontron had no debate skills and ended up saying some controversial shit, the main thing people focused on being "rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites." NeoGAF blew a fucking gasket and demanded Playtonic remove Jontron, and Playtonic complied. Some people started asking for refunds for their Kickstarter contributions (it was a combination of that and them cancelling the Wii U port when some people had signed up specifically for that version) and the person moderating the Steam subforum for the game started autistic screeching and banned a ton of people for so much as asking if they could.
Video with more detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRNDnR9Za4M

Honestly Jontron's contribution was so minor as to be inconsequential (he was voicing a guy in an outhouse) but the fact that it was politically charged and the fact that people working for Playtonic responded in such an immature and hostile way really escalated the issue.

>>384405434
Oh you can pinpoint why
>Ridiculous premise (and not in the good way)
>Awful, horrible camera
>Exploration punishes you with huge empty areas
>See that little ledge over there that looks like you might be able to get to it? Yea, you can, and once you do you realize it's fucking nothing.
>Can't skip dialogue/cutscenes
>Dialogue isn't funny or interesting, just obnoxious

>>384412272
Actually, none of the guys from Playtonic responded publicly. It was the distributor who was responding like an autistic tard on Steam.

Wasnt this made by super anti-white developers?

Thats all I really remember about this game

>>384405748
You have no argument because he's right.

>>384405998
Was he trying to 100% the game or something?

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>>384409151
>What the fuck killed this game?
Here is an image of the Playtonic staff. I placed a red box around people who were involved with Banjo-Kazooie. Anyone listed who has "Banjo Kazooie series" in their description did things for Tooie, though the majority were only involved with Nuts & Bolts.

Now Banjo-Kazooie started off small, but it ended up with 50+ people on board. Today some of them remain at Rare, moved to Nintendo, or started their own companies.

>>384413097
No he was just trying to beat it

>>384413097
I think he was going to beat it 100% in one sitting, but I can't remember why. I think because Kirkhope challenged him to on twitter?
Imagine being so done with such an easy game that you have to use cheats.

>>384413097
He was going to 100% it as fast as he could, but he gave up and just wanted to beat it. He couldn't do that either.

>>384413423
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>>384413520
God damn that's fucking pathetic. I'm not one to talk, I was trying to 100% the game a few months ago but NOPE'd the fuck out during click clock wood because my fear of heights made me freak the fuck out during the tree climbing bits.

>>384389117
Jontron wishes he were Yookalaylee irrelevant

>>384413315
Why did they even get Wise and Burke? Not dissing on them since they do god tier stuff but curious

>>384409390
Blame MN9 and Bloodstained for leaving the idea of "spiritual successor" a bad taste in peoples' mouths.

>>384414214
What's the issue with Bloodstained? I haven't paid much attention to the development but the demo played just like you'd expect a SOTN clone to play.

>>384413097
>>384413423
>>384413445
>>384413520
>>384413547
Grant challenged him to get to Grunty. After more than 9 hours he was still short too many jiggies so he switched to an emulator and activated cheats to get to the end. Then he activated in-game cheats to have more items. Then during the fight he used save-states.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLkH59U6_ZQ&feature=youtu.be
Here's a video of him fucking up the final fight repeatedly.

>>384414214
>Blame MN9 and Bloodstained
Yooka came out before Bloodstained though.

It was disappointing but I'm glad it was pushed to be made. I just wish they tried harder with the level design. The last level was the only one that I thought was really imaginative and great.

I think the only thing they improved on somewhat was character movement, since banjo doesn't control very well. Every other aspect was a bit worse.

>>384414765
Both of them were getting shat on around the same time.

>>384414765
Bloodstained was still being criticized.
I still think it looks ugly/stiff as fuck.

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>Mfw Yooka-Laylee failed and showed that 3D collectathon platformers were always bad

>>384415169
>banjo tooie was an adventure game instead of a collectathon
>was better than banjo kazooie
don't know why people didn't see the writing on the wall

>>384415290
Plus DK64 went full collectathon. Don't forget that.

>>384389117
That's usually how that works, isn't it?

>>384415419
Woulda been alright if it wasn't for color-coded bananas. Talk about the most backtrack-infested game ever created.

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