How to instantly detect nu-/v/: Simply ask about Morrowind,

>>384369643
How to detect a vanillafag:
Complains about Oblivion or Skyrim when both can be turned into great games with the correct mods.

>>384369643
How to instantly detect nu-/v/:
He reddit spaces sentences.

like

this

And makes shitty OPs

>>384369643
>complaining about people who have an actual train of thought about video games
How st00pid are you

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>30
>Started out in TES with Morrowind
>Went back and dabbled in the previous games a little
>Still think Oblivion > Morrowind
>Also think Skyrim > Oblivion

I honestly believe each TES game is a vast improvement on it's predecessor. Don't get me wrong. I adore Morrowind, I've sunk a ton of time in it, but I like Oblivion more. Sunk tons of time into Oblivion, but I like Skyrim more.

Bough Oblivion on the last sale after beating Morrowind for the first time a few weeks ago. Put 230 hours in it.

I felt so betrayed I was actually angry.

>>384369643
Morrowind has better combat than oblivion
Oblivion is the better game

>>384369981
How to instantly detect nu-/v/:

They are so obsessed with reddit they won't allow people to press enter.

>>384369957
Skyrim can't though. Can't fix quests and dungeons design.

>>384370258
>what is Enderal

>>384370258
Honestly, dungeons are only there to get you loot and xp. NO ONE likes doing them. If they are simple and short, all the better. The only bad thing about Skyrim dungeons are the unnecessary puzzles they added which takes ages.

>>384369957
I've turned my Skyrim into a continent-wide rape dungeon and that's about it. The game is garbage, combat mods suck dick, stats and leveling up also sucks dick. The animation suck dick aswell.

Nothing can fix the fact that the core of the game is rotten.

>>384369643
Everyone on /v/ orgasm on how morrowind is so good and everything after it is shit. Morrowind is fucking shit too. The characters are ugly and animations are ugly the combat is fucking abysmal and the only redeeming factor was the story and even that was bogged down by some irritating fetch quests.

I played Daggerfall a few months ago and hands down it was the best in the TES series by far and anyone who says otherwise can go fuck themselves. It was better than any TES that came before and I can't believe I was memed on by you fat fucks into even playing any TES after that. Fucking end yourselves.

>>384370214
>Morrowind
>better combat

You're fucking wrong. In Morrowind, if apparently don't have the right set of numbers and RNG the game may decide that you "missed" and do no damage even though that ebony dagger CLEARLY went through the opponent's torso. Apparently it's because my Argonian spellsword character didn't have enough stamina and according to some number doesn't know how to handle a simple knife.

Also you can break the living shit out of Morrowind via generous exploitation of alchemy and enchanting.

>>384371580
You're arguments are as if it were an action game. Dice rolls are not rng, and utilizing dice rolls/rpg stats with real time combat is actually skillful. Morrowind has more weapon types than oblivion and on top of that even has fucking directional combat with different damage values differing for each weapon and direction. Variety in weapons leads to variety in movesets and weapon reach, which is how real time skill is involved.
Morrowind objectively has the most mechanically deep combat system of any TES, and missing hits is literally not a problem unless you are stupid

>>384369643
I was 15 when I played Morrowind on the og Xbox. I loved Oblivion, and enjoyed Skyrim. Although Morrowind is my favorite, I can at least enjoy and appreciate the sequels for what they are. Morrowind is not without flaw though, make no mistake.

>>384372294
Then maybe Misswind should actually give a visual representation of the opponent dodging the attack rather than having a weapon go through them and do fuck all.

oblivion sidequests > morrowind sidequests
besides that, though, morrowind is the far superior game

I also was a kid when oblivion came out

>>384371580
Autism

>>384369643
I've never played an elder scrolls game besides skyrim, and I thought it was mediocre. What do I win?

>>384372828
It doesn't have to, unless you're a retard

Oblivion is a crap game. Morrowind and Skyrin are both vastly superior in every respect. How anyone can enjoy that bland, empty, pointless slog of a game is beyond me.

>>384374417
Name one thing skyrim did better than oblivion

>>384371580
>you can break the living shit out of Morrowind via generous exploitation of alchemy and enchanting.
which made the game hilariously fun if you were creative. meanwhile in oblivion you can't chug more than 2 potions at once because.

they sure took their sweet time deliberately implementing mechanics to make the player forcibly underpowered.

>>384370443
I thought the dungeons in Skyrim were pretty lengthy. Maybe not as lengthy as Oblivion, and I thought that game had way more copy-paste areas.

Morrowind did it best here, shrines are extremely short, caves will have a few corridors, and dwemer ruins will most likely be pretty long. That way you know what you're in for when you visit one. But even then you might get a surprise, like that one deadric ruin that turns into a giant underwater cave.

>>384374451
Atmosphere, lore, world design. But you might as well play Morrowind if you want those elements.

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>>384369643
Fixed

>>384374710
Stop giving a serious reply to my bait

>>384369643
The music was a straight upgrade you wigger.

>>384373937
>>384373937
> Visual medias don't need to display visual information unless it's sold to retards
And we've reached peak retarded /v/ again

>>384374463
> Underpowered player
> Oblivion
Were you playing in vitenamese with your hands tied using windows vocal assistant ?

>>384376843
If you level up too fast you get shit attributes. Everything then becomes massive sponges since everything will have higher stats than you.

Oblivion is easier at lower levels.

>>384374873
That's exactly how I feel. It's a step back towards Morrowind world design, but not enough to actually be worth it while at the same time losing every single last bit of what made oblivion good

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Oblivion is fixed and elevated to amazing with a few simple mods, imo.

All the unofficial patches of course, as well as anti-crash mods.

Realistic Leveling mod.

Vanilla Combat Enhanced.

Vanilla Combat Enhanced Class Overhaul.

Supreme Magicka.

Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.

imo that's the core of what is needed. The rest is whatever you want, graphical, whatever. Some same Oscular's but I find it too unstable and kind of lame in some parts.

>>384376694
It's an rpg. It's not an action game. The combat is not a visual experience. Being unable to understand that real time controls does not equal action game is what makes you a retard

>>384378590
>realistic
>leveling

>>384370040
pretty much this. the series is a mess overall but this is how i'd rate them too

>>384378992
>shitposting
It's a great mod. Almost perfect

>>384370508
>combat mods suck dick, stats and leveling up also sucks dick
To be fair, it would suck less dick if you hadn't modded in a bunch of dick sucking, you know? It would just be really bad.

>>384369643
>Disliking Oblivion's music
Nigger are you serious? Out of all the TES games, Oblivion's OST is above every other game. Maximum fucking comfy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9K98RzbHI

>>384374973
This anon has taste

I love oblivion because almost all its flaws can be fixed by mods unlike Skyrim

>>384369643
Why do underage / general retards believe that TES has ever had any good games in them?
The entire catalogue of SSI AD&D RPGs are significantly better, less bug ridden and have better combat despite most of them being older than TES in its entirety.
Fucking ultima shits all over any TES game any day of the week,

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>>384369643
Take off the fucking glasses, would you?

Combat in Morrowind is boring, and it has one of the most god-awful slow starts in RPG history. Magic is also dog shit in combat note that the magic system is overall great, just feels really jilted to use in combat. Morrowind's combat is its weakest area, but then, TES in general has sucked in this regard

>>384379518
Oblivion has the best ost of any game, period

>>384370313

It's not Skyrim, that's what

>>384370894

Daggerfall is the no mans sky of RPG

Nothing but procedurally generated, pointless infinite dungeons.

>>384369643
How to detect a kid trying to pass by an old fag
>Praises Morrowind
>Look we all know the combat is fucking shit b-but its still good guys! The game is old and i played it when it came out!
>If you like Oblivion more you are the kid ahah!
>The true Rpg guise!!! only old fags will know

Kys, Oblivion was more enjoyable overfall for me

t. adult person who actually played both when they came out

>>384369981
Paragraph spacing isn't reddit, it's called English.

>>384382797
I played oblivion as an adult when you are able to discern design choices and notice all the bullshit

it's shit

>>384369643
I first played Oblivion in college a few years ago, dumbass.
And Morrowind has lots of shitty stuff about it too, but you're too autistic and nostalgic to notice.

The one thing Oblivion got right was interesting characters. Charming orc assassins, half vampire champions, prankster mages guild members, deep one cultists, lonely cursed people, and more.

>>384370228
Fuck off we're full.

>>384382797
no, a kid is the one that started with oblivions, hates that people praise morrowind, and instead praises daggerfall even though they've only played 3 hours of it before getting frustrated

>>384376694
>WOW HOW COME MY TOON DOESN'T GET BIGGER MUSCLES WHEN I INCREASE MY STRENGTH? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW I GOT STRONGER WITHOUT VISUAL DISPLAY IN GAME?

>people tell me morrowind has good quests
>so far every quest I've encountered has been MMO-tier
when do the quests get good?

>>384386102
i think telvanni have the only literal mmo quests like oblivion/skyrim tooth/pelt collector quests

>>384386102
Near the end of any questline, the actual intrigue and faction fighting gets good.

They don't start that great because you're a low level nobody who isn't told anything.

Also, each questline has about twice to three times as many quests compared to Oblivion or Skyrim.

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>>384386102
NEVER
I've sunk about a couple hundred hours into Morrowind. All the quests are boring fetch quests. Literally Skyrim tier, outside of the main quest (which is still largely glorified fetch quests).
The game is really only good for exploring, but even then all the dungeons are copy paste Oblivion tier, with a lot of them being nothing more then a few rooms.

>>384386471
Nah. Most Morrowind quests are about talking to people in the overworld.

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A bit unrelated but I miss this guy even though Oblivion's version of him was a fucking joke. He's a God for fucks sake, he achieved CHIM when time broke and he's just going to "die" to a retarded soul gem?

>>384386471
I have to say it's REALLY strange to read criticisms about Morrowind's quests being "fetch" by people saying they've played hundreds of hours. The "fetch" quests seems like the least possible complaint when about 25% of your time questing is going to be escorting NPCs that move at around half an inch per hour while running.

>>384369643
both are shit

>morrowind combat is bad
That's probably the most reddit opinion possible.

>>384386929
it's not like any of the games have passable combat

>>384374973
Anon has redeemed the thread

>>384369981
>reddit spaces

The biggest newfag meme. 4chan does not have a fucking "official format", people type however the fuck they want.

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>>384386860
I have to say it's REALLY strange to see autists shilling a crappy 00's game on a Mongolian basket weaving forum when other titles in the same franchise do a far better job at open world RPG.

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>>384386929
>Morrowind combat is good

>>384386979
Daggerfall and Morrowind have good systems and Arena and Oblivion are standard as heck, Skyrim is where it gets wonky as fuck.

ITT: Reddit tries to shill Morrowind

>>384387136
Yeah the crappy 10's game did it a lot better.

>>384374973
/thread

Easiest way to detect nu-/v/ is trying to say Oblivion didn't have the best side quests.

>>384387142
Fuck off with your epic meme shit.

>>384387380
All two?

I'm amused that this entire thread is just
>You're a kid!
>No you're a kid!
>You're nu /v/
>No, you're nu /v/
>You're reddit!
>No you're reddit!

This is a microcosm of 4chan. Quality doesn't actually matter, only trying to be part of the hivemind and prove your "4chan cred" does.

>>384387512
Almonds are getting activated.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Side_Quests_(Oblivion)

And besides, quality > quantity.

>>384387716
A daring synthesis, Quentin Redditulo

>>384387142
>what is exhaustion
>what is skill level

>>384387954
So, all two. Whodunit and Paranoia.

>>384387954
Wow you proved him wrong. Towns have 3 quests each, not 3.

>Meanwhile Morrowind has over 400

>>384369643
Oblivion has better music overall

>>384387716
Haha nice point Reddit! Have an upboat for your armchair diagnosis!

>>384388249
>Meanwhile Morrowind has 400 fetch quests
FTFY

>>384388313
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSr2Aj3RtaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxjxk8zFSA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euYHV4syv8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGn4Gj2wAOE

>>384388435
>Using the reddit "haha" meme instead of 4chan's "kek"
>Properly capitalizing reddit
>Using the reddit term "upboat"
>Using reddit language with "armchair X"
>No green text

You have to go back.

>>384388531
Morrowind literally has more assassination quests than Oblivion has quests, let alone anything else.

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>>384388695
Nice false flag faggot.
>That spacing
Fucking christ are you transparent.

>>384388238
>A shadow over Hackdirt
>Unfriendly Competition
>Imperial Corruption
>Order of the Virtuous Blood
>The Siren's Deception
>Through a Nightmare, Darkly
>Corruption and Conscience
>A Brush With Death
>Canvas the Castle
>Legacy Lost
>Paranoia
>and many others listed there

It's like you're intentionally covering your eyes and refuse to admit that Oblivion is superior in terms of sidequests, both in quantity and quality.

>>384388990
>reddit reaction images
>Deliberately putting no spaces in to hide the fact you are from reddit
>Not using commas, which shows you are accustom to reddit run-on sentences.
>Misusing the term "false flag" indicating you read about it on reddit and don't know what it means.
>Putting greentext in the middle of the post, showing you don't know where it belongs

How reddit can you get?

>>384389313
Oblivion has trashy as fuck guilds and vampire quests and completely didaway with the freeform questing of Morrowind, KotN and SI are better than Bloodmoon and Tribunal though.

>>384389517
>trash talking oblivion guilds
Nigger, give it up.

>>384388587
Shit taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY41Q1FYokQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpALQ_zZdV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyEmLptNL70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHinJ7C2P0
Morrowind has better main theme I'll give you that

>>384389701
>Every single Oblivion guild is just "Do these 10 things, congratulations you should be in charge instead of me"

>>384388982
and Morrowind's assassination quests are literally copypaste garbage

quality > quantity

>>384389997
This.

This is why Bioshock Infinite is the best Shock game.

It only had one linear path, but the quality was 100x better than anything else so far.

>>384374973
this, OP is biased as fuck

>>384374973
>>384379631
>>384387070
>>384387380
>>384390528
>All these children who can't handle games that simulate combat with numbers, their brains can't imagine it, and need to be physically shown everything that happens, step by step.

I weep for your generation, I really do.

I just can't get into Oblivion's stock medieval setting, huts, stone buildings and castles, garbs and general clothes, etc...

In Morrowind, just figuring out what the fuck "under Skar" meant without spamming the wiki dialogue was an adventure in itself.

>>384390714
>All these children who can't handle games that simulate graphics with numbers, their brains can't imagine it, and need to be physically shown everything that happens, step by step.
why did you move onto morrowind instead of sticking to your DOS games faggot

>>384372294
Dice rolls and other elements of classic RPG mechanics belong in isometric RPGs, not in an ARPG.

>>384390878
They stopped making them.

I wanna watch you kids play Wizardry 4 and cry because you can't leave the first room.

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>>384369643
>Morrowind
>too young to remember real RPGs
Ironing

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It's all about the quality of the setting. In Morrowind you are rewarded for immersion with the island of Vvardenfell. And no, it's not about the wacky mushrooms, the fungus is just the icing on the cake. It's about how House Hlaalu, Redoran, and Telvanni quarrels while the nation dies. An arrogant people conquered by the people they look down on. How the ancient roots of Dunmer society are persecuted and exiled in their own lands. How a society was built on a great sin, and the people's collective fall from grace. A nation mired in the past. These are the themes of Morrowind. What themes are there in Oblivion?
If you wish to delve into the lore of Morrowind, then you will be pleased. Morrowind rewards scrutiny. Oblivion has some neat quests and voice acting, which are good tools to build immersion, but in the end the quests don't work together to build something greater, and so there is nothing special in Oblivion to be immersed into. Just Bethesda's bland vision of Cyrodiil. Besides building skins, there's no cultural differences between the regions and cities. There's nothing to build conflict on in Oblivion.

It's absolutely baffling to me how Bethesda could lose their way in such a spectacular way after having created Vvardenfell. Skyrim was a step back in the right direction in this regard.

TL;DR - Oblivion has some better tools of immersion, but Morrowind has the greater reward.

>>384390714
there's literally nothing wrong with that new chart
>OP had to draw an entirely new "meh it's bad but it's not that bad" face for Morrowinds greatest flaw to make sure it wasn't on par with anything in oblivion
you're a big fat nostalgia baby and nothing more

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>>384370313
>fixing skyrim
>remove all the skyrim

>>384369643
Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind are all great.

>>384387115
>t. reddit vet

>>384369643
>reddit having fun?!
>we cant be like reddit!
>NO FUN ALLOWED

>>384393061
>oblivion is fun
shit taste faggot

>>384369643
I prefer Morrowind to Oblivion and I still think Morrowind's combat is absolute dogshit and I'm sick of people defending it.

People who defend shit like Morrowind's combat are people who never actually played real RPGs like Fallout and Baldur's Gate.

Morrowinds combat is bad though

>>384369957
>"Great"
You have shit taste if you think those games are great even with mods.

>>384369643
RNG combat mechanics is retarded in a video game setting. Regardless of how stats effect it. Everything can be forgiven about morrowind, except it's combat. If you disagree, you are literally a mongoloid.

>>384394578
it has shit graphics and it runs like shit

the setting is shit, too

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>>384369643
>combat is is dogshit from the beginning that becomes more tolerable over time
>combat that is tolerable at the beginning that becomes more dogshit over time
gee hard choices. luckly this is a bethesda game and modded Oblivion gameplay far outdoes Morrowind

>>384369643
>2017
>/v/ has literally become hipster gamers
',:^) sounds about right

>>384394191
if you played one of those you probably understand to hit rolls are more complex than "the enemy dodged somehow"

Why has there been such a big influx of Morrowind fags recently?

>>384394805
If you think oblivions combat got WORSE over time. You were playing wrong.

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>>384394884
there's absolutely no complexity to it.
It's a random number generator deciding whether or not you hit and whether or not you used your shield.

>>384395272
go ahead and try to defend Oblivion's combat after stating that Morrowind's has "no complexity to it"

>Intelligence is governed by lockpicking
>lockpicking increases your magicka but not common schools like destruction
>destruction increases magicka resistence
>yet requires ever greater amounts of magicka to cast more powerful spells
>enchanting increases magicka yet does not use it
>enchanting has all the spell effects of all schools under one skill
>enchanted gear automatically recharge over time and are uneffected by stamina, which makes it infinitely better than vancian "lel go sleep in the middle of a dungeon" spellcasting
>can't control your level ups as a caster because you're always resting to recover magicka even when your level ups are suboptimal
>hurr durr the game's balance is so shit you don't even need to level up
>the only magicka restore ingredients are comberries and atronach salts, making magicka restore potions nonsensically hard to make

Defend this retards.

>>384369643
I don't know what fucking version of Morrowind you played but in the one I did, the side quests were fetch quest trash

>>384395616
I don't defend it, which is why you pick the Atronach birthsign.

Also there is a restocking fine alchemist in Balmore that sells two ingredients to restore magicka, so it's not hard to make those potions.

>>384370040
I think in the big picture you're right.
As a game, Skyrim is better than Oblivion, and as a game, Oblivion is better than Morrowind.

The thing is though, is that I miss the little things.
I missed in Skyrim stuff like the absolutely vast castles with multiple floors, paroling guards and secret passages that allowed me to feel like a master spy in Oblivion, collecting the various pieces of inter-NPC notes and letters, getting to know them better while manoeuvring around said patrols.
I even missed the grind it took to get into the Arcane University, as it made you feel like you truly "earned" the right to be there, something that only really happened with the Throat of the World in Skyrim.
And in Oblivion, I missed the janky, semi-tabletop RPG mechanics of Morrowind that allowed for more freedom when it came to enchanting and spell crafting than either Oblivion or Skyrim. Sure, at least for Skyrim I know there's a mod that expands enchanting and adds spell-crafting, but it never really worked in a way that wasn't feeling unnecessary, because the game just wasn't built for it.

Honestly, with an overhaul of maps that reward exploration and offer more alternate routes if you come prepared with the right tools (except for the one or two times I recall Telekinesis fetching you a key out in the open) Skyrim would be the best just for how smooth it handles, but both Oblivion and Morrowind have elements that make them stand out next to it as something more, if not outright better.

>>384395272
there's no complexity to the rolls in the old rpgs either
the cumulative armor class is a representation of missing, dodging, parrying, slighting, glancing, and so on

>>384395948
>atronach

Which is even fucking worse. The ancestral spirit bullshit is the definition of poor game design.

>Also there is a restocking fine alchemist in Balmore that sells two ingredients to restore magicka, so it's not hard to make those potions.

You go through his stock fast if you play like a normal caster. And it doesn't make any sense for magicka restore to be so rare and magicka fortify to be so common in game. I don't want to have to teleport back to Balmora to get my fix, I want to find ingredients in the wild like you do with every other alchemical effect.

>>384394191
Both of those games do the "swing and miss because of percentages" thing.

>>384396349
>You go through his stock fast if you play like a normal caster
it restocks the instant you close the window

but really every alchemist vendor also has restocking magicka potions in the first place, if you weren't messing with alchemy in the first place

>>384369643
nostalgia goggle millennial cucks
morrowind is crap

>>384395506
>B-But Oblivion did it!
Not an argument and stop deflecting. All TES games are different flavors of shit, including Morropoop.

>>384396601
Except they actually have elements of strategy to them and is deeper than "hit/don't hit" that is essentially Morrowind's combat.

>>384396349
Fortify Intelligence 200 points for 1 second and immediately opening the Alchemy menu my man. Potions from that will recover like 800 points of maggicka over the full duration
>not doing this exploit as a caster and justifying it as a previous meditation exercise for dank roleplaying experience.

>>384396735
I might be misremembering but I remember buying everything he had that I could and still running out of ingredients. It was probably my wallet that ran out before his stock then.

>but really every alchemist vendor also has restocking magicka potions in the first place, if you weren't messing with alchemy in the first place

That's still a problem. You can forage for most ingredients easily yet something as essential as magicka restore is locked behind shops and very rare enemies like atronachs. Restore and fortify ingredients should have been flipped. Just because you can get by with buying the potions, doesn't make it good game design. You can have infinite magicka by using the atronach/ancestral spirit exploit too but it's one of the most tedious, painful things I've ever tried to do in an RPG.

My point isn't that its hard or impossible to play Morrowind, but that its filled with mindbogglingly stupid design choices. Like everything to do with how attributes influence your stats and how Enchanting is fundamentally broken because it always has a 100% cast chance and a fraction of the spell cast speed of normal spells.

>>384397150
>exploits, exploits, exploits

I know about them, but that doesn't make Morrowind's combat, particularly it's magical combat any better. If you have to heavily exploit the system in unintuitive ways just to play the game normally then the game has shit design. The only thing good about Morrowind's magic is all the exploits you can do with it, but just going in blind and playing the game normally without looking up how best to cheat the system, and you can see just how stupid the design is.

People complain about Skyrim "dumbing" down the level system but its the only TES game in which doing a skill to get better at that skill actually worked properly and exploits weren't necessary to play the game. Directly increasing stamina/health/magicka is also better than lockpicking increasing you magicka for no reason.

>>384374973
Didn't oblivion just redo a ton of Morrowind songs?

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>>384369643
How to instantly detect nu-/v/ plebs:

They talk about Elder Scruls.

>>384386471
>how to spot when someone has never played Morrowind

>>384398309
>how to spot the redditor

>>384398263
>it's old, looks like shit and no one under the age of 30 has played it so it must be good!

Am i the only one who likes the Roll for hit or miss?
i think it make the game feel like an RPG

>>384386009
Don't bother, these people play rpgs for their """visceral combat""" and don't even know what world building is. They're the type of people that get bored and stop when an npc in morrowind gives them a book and tells them to read it

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>>384369643

>>384399068
morrowind btfo

>>384374973
>Oblivion has better music than Morrowind
Shit tier taste

>>384369643
I'm going to be honest, no elder scrolls games are very good. Morrowind is probably the best, but it's king of mediocrity mountain.

>>384399006
Patrician

>>384399518
what do you prefer to elder scrolls anon?

>>384369643
both are shit
the only good TES was daggerfall and it was also shit

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>>384399407
Sad, Morrowind is for console kiddies.

>>384399068
How to instantly detect neo-/v/:

Simply ask about Daggerfall, and if anyone defends Morrowind, or complains about Daggerfall's combat, you know they were just a kid when Morrowind came out, and are too young to remember real RPGs.

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>>384400310

>>384392907
>reddit vet
top kek

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>Complain about Morrowinds roll hit or miss
>Don't complain about Oblivions constant stagger autism even at high levels

>>384374973
>Enemies levelling with you is better than dice rolls

My level 50 knight was gangraped by a pair of goblins in Oblivion. Goblins who I slaughtered at level in the tutorial with my fucking fists.

Morrowind's combat wasn't great, but at least it made some sort of sense. If you have no stamina and are exhausted you have less chance to hit something. If your skill in the weapon category is low then you have less chance to hit something with that weapon. If your attributes which deal with accuracy are bad, then you have less chance to hit something. It doesn't translate all that well into gameplay, but it makes sense.

In Oblivion your attacks would do little to no damage because you had gotten too powerful. Think about that for a second.

why do games like morrowind and gothic have to have the monkey's paw curse of being good games that you can spend hundreds of hours playing, but they're visually disgusting

>>384398181
every elder scrolls game since Morrowind has redone the music and many side quests (factions)

>>384369643

Both Morrowind and Oblivion have shit gameplay.

I hate the TeS series as a whole but of the few hours I played of each, Morrowind at least seemed neater. Oblivion seemed like someone had just read LotR for the first time

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>>384369643
Oblivion is definitely the worst straight out of the box, and a pretty bad game in general. I believe that many, not all, but many of its issues can be fixed with mods though. I remember thinking that Oblivion was irredeemable trash, but trying it again 8 years after I last played it, and it's okay, especially now that I have enough experience to mod it and keep things stable (played it for three hours without any crashes or FPS dips). Say whatever else about Oblivion, but it had the best modding scene of the TES games. The good bits of Oblivion are definitely better than anything in Skyrim (just like the bad things are way worse). Morrowind was still the overall best TES experience over all though. Going into your first 6th House Base in the MQ >>> Kvatch.

>>384369643
I played Morrowind when it was released and didn't like it
Tried it again a few years later and still didn't like it

Why not just play Gothic 2: NotR

>>384374973
Give Morrowind and Oblivions music top marks and this is spot on.

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>>384369981

>says "reddit spacing"
>implying this isn't the most nu-/v/ thing ever

This shit is retarded, every fucking board does this, I have no idea when this meme got started but it's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever seen

Pic related, heres some older shit for evidence

>>384369643
Morrowind's combat is still unforgivable for the hit and miss shit. It's certainly better than Oblivion in nearly every aspect, but that has always been bullshit.

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>>384401686
>Say whatever else about Oblivion, but it had the best modding scene of the TES games
Name a few of them, excluding pretentious weeb shit.

>>384399895
Pretty much anything. In terms of roleplaying any good CRPG is better imo. I just feel that elder scrolls games don't do anything particularly well they just kind of serve as mod platforms.

>>384401806
>This shit is retarded, every fucking board does this, I have no idea when this meme got started but it's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever seen
Only hipster fags do it, your pic also has no merit since the lines are there to "simulate" the waiting while on the phone rather than explaining a point.
A sentence is not a fucking paragraph, and if you insist that it happens on "all boards" then I humbly invite you to go to any board that's not /v/ or /a/ and link me to a thread with where there's at least 30% blankline shitposts compared to every post in it.
You will not find it.

>>384402367
>caring so much about extra space
truly the epitome of reddit autism.

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>>384402524
>get proven wrong
>better call him an autist for not agreeing with my false views
11/10

>>384402367
First thread on /k/
http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/34586240/

First thread on /n/
http://boards.4chan.org/n/thread/1091279/

First thread on /an/
>>>/an/2429562

>>384402679
nah kid, just someone else who can smell your reeking autism

>>384402367
>>384402776
BTFO

>>384402776
>First thread on /k/
2 posts beside the OP. Let's help you and count the OP as well for a total of 3. 3 out of 27 posts is about 11%.

>First thread on /n/
Well you actually managed to count right here. Though I do wish to add that half of those are made by the OP.

>First thread on /an/
about 10 out of 146 posts, gee you're sure showing me anon!

>>384403249
>Being so mad about being instantly proven wrong he has to count every single post, and STILL gets proven wrong on one example

>>384403249
>but it doesn't count! tips fedora
just go back to lelddit you shitstain

>>384403249
>N-no! I mean 30% of all posts! Including posts with no text! Not just 30% of posts with more than two lines!
>B-btfo rite guys?

>>384401686
Well, right now I'm using:

Oscuro's, Martigen's, Maskar's, Balanced Magic, and Duke Patrick to address the level scaling and make combat quick and lethal (actually modified DP damage and stamina values since you'll be fighting mobs of creatures with Maskar's addon rather than 1v1s). Since I'm playing a thief, I use Thieve's Arsenal (cleaned!!!) for the blackjack.

I have Unique Landscapes and Better Cities to spice things up, and a ton of stability fixes like the unofficial patch, EngineBugFixes, and Stutter Remover. I keep most of my textures vanilla. Don't like Qarl's too much, and Oblivion's engine hates textures larger than 1024.

I use Atmospheres (1024 texture version) for weather and Gecko's Sound Overhaul for much better sounds (be sure to add the sound tag to it when you go to build your Bash patch)

I use OCO for characters. I know some people hate it as they find the default faces with a higher res texture to be the most fitting, but I'll take it over potato heads or anime mods like XEOSP. I'm not really adding any custom quests yet, and I don't really give my esp slots over to minor shit or slut wear.

>>384403763
Meant for >>384401835

>>384402776
DELETE THIS

>>384403434
You seem to miss the actual point, it's not that it shouldn't be allowed, it's that the use of it has grown far too excessive on this board alone. I'm fine with people doing that shit to split multiple sentences in a paragraph, however 5 sentences are not 5 fucking paragraphs.
Many people do it for the sole reason that their post would look bigger in order to reel in those precious (You)'s. It's pretty much only on /v/.

>>384403656
Where did I state it doesn't count? If anything, attempting to link 2 threads that don't counter my argument in the hopes I won't check them is even more pathetic than your false accusation of me not wanting to admit that shit.

>>384374710
One thing I kinda respect about Oblivion's dungeons is that they're multi layered and have actual wide spaces for combat/stealth. Most of Skyrim's dungeons I remember being narrow caves or tombs where you could only move forward or back.

>>384404278
>however 5 sentences are not 5 fucking paragraphs.
>Literally writes a paragraph of 2 sentences in his post before hitting enter and making a paragraph of a single sentence.

You realize it has nothing to do with paragraphs, and everything to do with pressing enter twice to make things easier to read right? That's why Microsoft Word does it by default.

>>384404567
>with pressing enter twice to make things easier to read right
This

meme

needs

to

stop

>>384374973
I really gotta leave this place if this is what /v/ thinks nowadays

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Saying Morrowind is the best TES is like proclaiming someone the King of Retards. This is a real RPG.

>>384404705
You are the only person in this entire thread pressing enter after every word.

Also, nice job moving the goalposts.

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>>384369643
um, sorry sweaty, but I had to fix your op

>>384401793
Name one (1) Morrowind song as comfy as this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKLfvt6CZCY

>>384404781
Point was that it doesn't make things easier to read.

That was the point all along.

I'm having an absolute hard time understanding

how you believe that this formatting

makes my post easier to read.

I'm not moving goalposts, the point from the

start is that it's used excessively for no good reason other than shitposting.

I mean, look at how good I just got by doing this shit.

I will no longer reply, I'm done fucking up this thread for the 3 people that seem to be actually talking about shit.

I hope you do the same.

>>384369643
Morrowind
Music: 5/10 too short
Lore: 9/10
World: 9/10
Main Quest: not counting lore? 6/10
Side Quests: 5/10
Combat: 7/10 magic helps

Oblivion
Music: 9/10
Lore 3/10
World 1/10
Main Quest 2/10 I like how we are only helping the chosen one
Side Quests 7/10
Combat 3/10

Skyrim
Music: 8/10
Lore 8/10
World 8/10
Main Quest 6/10
Side Quests 3/10 crapton of crap
Combat 6/10

>>384405031
Wow, a series of 7 notes followed by a rest stretched out over 20 seconds, made with a computer program to simulate voices.

Fucking amazing, 10/10

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>>384404771

>>384405186
You're STILL the only person in the thread doing that.

Go tell it to every single college professor who requires every paper to be double spaced. Tell it to the people who make every single word processing program that automatically adds extra spaces.

>>384405186
Was it autism?

>>384404705
>>384405186
Yeah,thingsaresomucheasiertoreadwhenyoutypelikethis.Idon'tknowwhythesepeopleputinspacesitjustmakesitsomuchhardertoreadwhattheyarewriting.Yousagelypointoutthattheyareputtingdoublespacesinplaceswheretheydon'tbelong.Iwishwewereallassmartasyou.

>>384405460
Yes, he clearly has autism since he thinks separating different thoughts with a space is exactly the same as inserting spaces in the middle of a sentence.

>>384405198
Music is actually very good in all the TES's. It's their music directing that is absolute crap. Just look at Morrowind, with how every battle, from a starter rat all the way up to fucking Daedric Prince, have the same music, or how dungeons share the same playlist with town/over world exploration.

>>384405186
>Using the "I'm getting BTFO by everyone so I'm just gonna walk away and act like I won" argument

>>384405238
It's funny because the Gothic 2 fight cuts away because it's so long and boring, while the Morrowind fight shows someone losing a fight against someone stronger than them and pretends it is because of mechanics.

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>he's assblasted because he shibbolethed himself with reddit carriage returns

>>384406132
>all combat should be over in 10 seconds

>>384405843
They really need to experiment with some moment's of silence in their playlists. In a game as huge as an Elder Scrolls, playing music all the time means that it's way easier to become tired of those tracks. The way that combat interrupts background ambience is also usually very jarring. I'd rather just have the dungeon tracks continue to play. Maybe some combat music at the boss, but not for every enemy.

>>384406249
The fight shown has 10 seconds of combat, and the character does maybe 10% of the enemy's health.

Thus, you're literally spending almost a minute and a half fighting every single weak enemy. Hours and hours of game-time playing "swing at the skeleton, take a step backwards"

>>384405820
I unironically thought that was easy to read

>>384406319
>way easier to become tired of those tracks.
I don't think it's possible to get tired of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSr2Aj3RtaA

4th best video game song of all time.

>>384406538
>Thus, you're literally spending almost a minute and a half fighting every single weak enemy.
I take it you never played the game?

>>384369643
This, Skyrim is even better than Oblivion and I'm a Faggerfall fag.

>>384369957
first kid spotted

>>384390714
>physically show sword hitting enemy
>MISS
its bad conveyance and bad design. show the sword missing or show nothing at all

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>>384369643
You posted this same thread yesterday. It was gay then, it's even gayer now. Morrowind was a piece of shit with dice roll combat and mud-brown landscapes littered with equally mud-brown rocks and mushrooms. Oblivion is a vastly better game and you should hate yourself for having such a shit opinion. Good day.

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Morrowind: the game where it takes 2 minutes to kill a rat.

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>>384409207
>mud-brown landscapes littered
>What is Tel Branora

>>384369643
>too young to remember real RPGs
Morrowind is just as much of a shallow sandbox as Skyrim and Oblivion. Real RPGs are things like Fallout 2 and PS:T, and fans of those have been calling Morrowind shit since the beginning.
For the record I love all the TES games (even Arena and Daggerfall, which I'm guessing your underage ass hasn't even figured out how to run) but if you're gonna pretend Morrowind was superior because it's a "real RPG" then you're fucking delusional. Play more games.

>how to detect cancerous /v/
>he uses "nu-"

>not having a 100% chance to hit mod

>>384410469
That completely ruins the game since enemies get perpetually hit stunned. Dice roll is pretty bad but the game is balanced around it.

>>384409064
As I said, children today need to be shown everything. Their brains can't comprehend the idea of things happening they can't see. If there isn't a fancy dodge animation, then the thing must not have missed.

>>384409332
It's funny because that is approximately how old Oblivion fans are.

Reminder that Oblivionbabies suffer from greater nostalgia than Morrowindfags. The vast majority of Oblivion defenders were children when it came out, and thus it is the perfect RPG. Perfect, no flaws, nostalgic, and """"comfy"""". Aside from a few well done side quests Oblivion is overall trash.

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>>384411828
Oblivion is pretty comfy.

>>384386816
he got out cucked by Traven, happens to the best of us

>>384386816
After that big speech one shotting him was so funny

>>384391225
Why isnt sotha sil in this image?