The effect of this ability has been changed from "Reduces

PATCH NOTES
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/782e44043959ae82ead5c6745dac3297a0083b69

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POST YFW PLD

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Damn, that's it huh?

>>384330213
Pretty damn glad for them, SCH aetherpact changed doesn't seem like much though.

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Reminder that DRG is still in the cuckshed.

>>384330210
Wait people were saying Holy Spirit will have a longer cast time what's up with this

>>384330213
Thank fucking god it wasn't a cast time nerf. That live letter had me nervous as fuck.

>Alte Roite mount

Savage reward possibly?

>>384330298
that Quietus buff seems big

Too late on the thread, keep it to 1

>>384330028

>>384330210
>Plenary Indulgence
>now a group heal instead of a tank heal
Not sure how to feel about this.

>>384330325
BTFO

>>384330325
They misinterpreted what was said, read the live letter again.

WARS BACK ON TOP BOIS
PLD BTFO
DRK STILL IN THE KEKSHED

>>384330298
>not buffing Dark Passenger
I still don't have that shit on my bar

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>>384330213
Losing 30 potency on Holy Spirit sucks, but that's literally the only short stick we got.

>>384330384
>GUYS GO TO MY THREAD!!! I MADE IT FIRST!!!

>>384330325
During the live letter they said they were going to nerf Holy Spirit, then mentioned that its cast time was what made it stronger than they expected in like... the same sentence. We were getting pretty fucking worried that's what they were going to nerf.

>>384330210
>The Oath Gauge will no longer be halved when switching between the two oaths

This was kinda annoying in susano when I wanted to use more intervention or sheltron glad for this change

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You could do the enhanced melee combo early at 52, 53, 54, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 mana. It is gone now.

B A L A N C E N E R F

but Spear is actually a good card to draw so maybe it'll even out

>>384330384
fuck off
the link was on the other thread

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>all these mch changes

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>These fucking WHM fixes

My static made me go Scholar from White Mage. I'm thinking I might just tell them to fuck off and play my jobfu.

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>Lance Mastery
>Potency increase changed from 30 to 100.
How big of a difference will this make? I can't into maths
Is DRG finally saved?

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>>384330383
There are not enough aoe situations that matter for any aoe buff that isn't an enmity buff to even be relevant. it also depends on how much MP, I'm guessing it's closer to blood price per hit as opposed to blood weapon.

>>384330419
Yeah, I don't understand what they're doing with that ability. The blind is not that good, the damage sucks, the MP usage is hilarious.

>>384330503
Honestly I cant tell if theyre any better. All I know is that my opener will now need to change.

>blm buffs

why
there were op already

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>Party members will no longer be granted a Confession when HP is restored via Cure and Cure II. They will instead be granted a Confession when HP is restored via Medica, Medica II, or Cure III.
This is good or bad

>>384330503
And Machinist is still fucking useless. Great.

>The effect of this ability has been changed from "Reduces ability recast time for a party member or self by 20% for 20 seconds" to "Increases the critical hit rate for a party member or self by 10% for 20 seconds."
What is their boner with crit this expansion?

>strength added to Tank accessories at 290 and above
neat.

>>384330564
>Is DRG finally saved?
No.

>>384330568
I mean it probably means you can Abyssal Drain spam>Quietus spam>Abyssal Drain spam in succession easier now

>>384330564
Even at a glance, it isn't enough to bring it up to how good SAM/MNK/NIN are right now
You're a little closer at least?

>>384330579
lolwhat

>the Holy spirit nerf

fuckin dodged a bullet there

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>Ninja nerf
Doushite?

>>384330671
>he doesn't know

fucking summer

>WAR buffs
these are good right? I dont know shit about WAR, but my friend who mains one was pissed at how badly it was doing, so this should make him happy.

>>384330729
I think it's like a 1.5% overall loss in DPS

>>384330323
looks good to me

>>384330583
More burst group heal for free.
It's was a (maybe) free tank heal.
I'm fine with it since group heals are the ones eating away at your mp.

>PLDs happy about the 30 potency nerf
>tfw we're so cucked that just being cucked less than we thought we'd be getting cucked for makes us happy

>>384330752
that RDM was consistently pulling higher damage than BLM despite BLM offering no utility to the part?

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is Blizzard 4 going to be actually worth using now?

will anyone take me for Savage?

I really don't want to finish leveling RDM to 70, it's so boring compared to BLM.

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>that tome gear
tank glamour is a fucking challenge in this expansion

>>384330760
They'll never be happy.

The strength attribute has been added to tank accessories at item level 290 and above.
>The effects of materia affixed to accessories prior to patch 4.05 will not be diminished.

That caveat seems sorta stupid, are old acc gonna be strong

>Tomestone gear is Allagan shit
>And it's not just for the tanks, everyone gets Allagan shit

FUCK the fag who submitted that entry and FUCK the devs for choosing it, jesus fucking christ

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>That DRK "buff"
>They're still going to get outdpsed by PLD

WHAT THE FUCK BROS I THOUGHT PLD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE KEKED TANK???

>ast lost some damage card %
>got crits cards

is this bad or good?

>>384330323
What is this obsession xiv players have with cuckoldry? I mean sure we are in /v/ but xiv people take it to a whole new level.

>>384330808
Yeah but it also last 10s now and heal for less and the cst time was increase, feels more like a nerf to me.

>savage weapons are free

wooow

The didn't only fix WAR but possibly put it back on top. DRK seems like the weakest tank again.

>>384330404
>DRK gets a buff to their one rotation they use all the time
>in the shed

MCH's DPS is as much as SAMs now.

>>384330935
>PLD are still better OTs than WAR
>DRK is still better MT than WAR
don't fall for the meme

>>384330835
There's nothing to be done about it bro, I'll see you in the cuckshed later tonight for our daily ass reamings.

>>384330835
This is much more in line with what they clearly wanted to accomplish. Buff Warrior and Dark Knight a little, nerf Paladin a little, put them as close to each other as possible in dps. We're happy that actual balance is occurring instead of a retarded pendulum.

>>384330729
Ninja's still the most desired melee, without a doubt
Don't worry about it

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>To further improve matching speeds for Duty Roulette: Leveling, Duty Finder language settings will now be ignored.
My french free experience is going to be in jeopardy.

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>SCH gets Miasma II back

>>384330652
Yeah which is all fine and dandy if any hard content actually required high amounts of aoe damage from the tank. The issue like I said that while this will be fun to do in dungeons and that's kinda where it's usefulness will end unless the rest of the content is fairly aoe heavy from here on out.

Quickened Aetherflow Reduction to the recast time of Aetherflow changed from 10 to 5 seconds.
Chance to reduce the recast time of Aetherflow increased from 20% to 100%.

Holy shit wow, I didn't ask for this but i like it.

Someone post the new gear

>>384330935
>WAR better than DRK

lol

>>384330950
I'd say good. Spear was a complete dead card, now it's a good draw.

>>384331007
no

>>384330210
>nothing about removing the beast cost for Onslaught

All the changes to war and they still haven't fixed this underwhelm skill.

Plenary Indulgence still seems like shit
>potency for one stack is pretty terrible
>two is pretty good but I probably won't need it after a Medica II/Medica
>why the fuck would I cast it after thee AoE heals everyone has full health

>>384330892
it fucking sucks, no way im wearing that shit, gonna glamour it back to my sweet AF3 gear

>indomitability fucking stronger
>excogitation can be permanently up
>aetherflow now has a 45s CD guaranteed
holy SHIT

>>384330965
The purpose changed so I 'm not sure if just taking the values into account is really the smart way to see this.

>>384330760
I think it helps warrior's main tanking capabilities

didnt they say they where changing shake it off? or did they say not yet

>>384331170
I actually liked it better as a shit tank heal to weave in. Medica 2 rot healing already goes to waste usually anyway.

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>sch bitching about MP costs for they spells
>they didn't fix anything related
>they are happy with the changes

I don't get it

>one of the problems with WAR in pvp is that their CHARGE that BRINGS YOU TO THE TARGET also KNOCKS THE TARGET AWAY FROM YOU
>they make it twice as bad

You can't make this shit up.

>>384330579
>Foul mp cost reduced to zero

lol who complained about this? Foul's MP cost was insignificant anyway so I guess that's why?

>>384331214
>Implying scholars care about healing

Where are the pics with the rest of the jobs in the new currency gear?

Also, I don't really remember but does savage gear share the same looks with normal gear?

>>384331304
They're trying to figure out what they were thinking when they made the skill

I'd bet they remove it or change its effect completely

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>>384331110
Tank

>>384330453
It was confirmed a bug

I miss Tanaka.

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>>384331385
Healer

>>384331170

It's an off GCD heal that in tandem with another aoe heal to proc it, is perfect for shit like Charybdis and Susano's aoe. You don't need two stacks, it's one cast, one off GCD, move on now.

>Players can only register to enter Omega: Deltascape (Savage) via the Raid Finder.

Why do they still do this

>>384331385

If it is TANK gear why the fuck did they add it to ALL roles?

>Hallowed Ground now allows status effects through in PvP

y tho, literally what's the point if I'm just gonna get stunned in hallowed

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>>384331424
Caster

>>384331324
well they buffed Aetherflow, that's part of it

>>384331324
SCHs get guaranteed 45 sec CD aetherflow which translates to more aetherflows AND mana drains

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>drg changes
IT'S FUCKING NOTHING HOLY SHIT THAT'S IT? FUCK YOU. Does this fucking dev team even play the classes they make?

>Those MCH changes

Wowitsfuckingnothing.gif

>>384331447
Contest (Tank Edition) has been implemented.

are you blind or just stupid?

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>>384331457
Fujo were a mistake.

>>384331447
they didn't, you nerd

>>384331324
Because SCH are moving away from shields, since their new healing abilities won't suck as much and they'll get more out of AF abilities.

>>384331447
no wait, it's teh tank edition and healer and dps version of this will be made

>An issue when using the white mage action Cure wherein the rate at which players receive the Freecure status is higher than intended.

Leaving such a big bug in the patch, what are they thinking?

>>384331508
>>384331528

>dps and healer gear based on this design has also been implemented

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>>384331489
I really can't believe you guys got so little
I feel for you man

>>384331457
>Another dumb ugly set to glamour over

Stop making retarded looking pants and all would be great

>>384331489
friendship ended with DRG now SAM is my beat friend

>>384331542
If you played WHM, you'd have noticed it was already there for some time.

>>384331561
oh wait you're right

probably so all the gear would look relatively similar, as tome gear does. It's not the exact same thing across all roles, but rather variations on the theme.

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>DRK """""""""""""""""buffs"""""""""""""""""""""""''

>>384331457
This is kind of sick.

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>>384330213
>>384330325
>>384330421
>>384330679
>>384330835
Back to the shed, white kids.

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>>384331671
>DRG """""""""""""""""buffs"""""""""""""""""""

>>384331424
Thanks for reminding me how garbage this healer set looks.

>>384331658
Yeah its called "thin air"

>>384331043
Why can't they just make war the sam of the tanks? Pld offers the best utility and drk is in the middle.

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>tfw sch main

I play tons of mch too and it seems like they got a buff to barrel stabilizer that makes them much easier to play. This is great.

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>Elusive Jump Recast time reduced from 60 to 30 seconds.
Try to find how they come to this conclusion that this is a good idea for a buff.

>>384331542
>big bug
Yeah man, WHM is having a real tough time managing MP right now, wouldn't want to make it too easy on us.

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>>384331592
>that
>ugly
You have no sense of taste, i bet you like the delta gear too.

>>384330568
>There are not enough aoe situations that matter for any aoe buff that isn't an enmity buff to even be relevant.
Shit dude are you gonna set that world first or maybe play the OTHER 99.9% OF THE FUCKING GAME. PLD sure as fuck didn't need Total Eclipse for Savage raiding either, should they just remove it

>>384331490
>3% buff overall
>turret can nuke now and not be a dps loss if you do it
>60s CD barrel stabilizer means more safe overheats
>its now piss easy to stay in 50 heat and almost impossible to accidentally dip below 50 with a quick reload

I've heard ACT isn't working properly.

I don't know if I believe it, but haven't really checked into it.

That said, no matter which class I'm playing I'm topping 4 man's and it's pathetic. I know it's just leveling content, but it's insane how bad the average joe is, and this was supposed to be the expansion to remove the discrepancy between good and bad players damage outputs.

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>>384331671
>NIN
""""""""""""""""""nerfs""""""""""""""""""
feels good being the undisputed king

>>384331561
they mean the other designs that won the contest

they were posted here

pay attention

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>>384330210
>AST is back in the shed

>>384331747
At least I get to style my way out of AoEs more often
h-haha-hahah

Is Savage DFable?

>>384331686
a few potency increase wont make up for your shitty utility warbabies, DRK is still better as an MT and PLD is still better as a MT and specially as a OT, fuck off bitchboy ;)

>>384331837
Im going to df it im not a shitter

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>>384331796
Good if only they weren't still so strong

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>>384330120
>Lance Mastery gives 100 bonus potency now
>aoe phases don't fuck over BotD anymore
>animation lock reduction
Noice.

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>>384329994
BTFO

>>384331737
Don't be silly now.

>>384331747
Shit tanks that don't want to tank properly and are now relying on DPS to use their aggro reducers cause of entitlement

>>384331665
>>384331561
Their wording is really shit here, all there are probably going to come out just this one first.

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It's a good night for WHM mains.

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>tfw a sam and no changes

Field instances changes (Ixion, etc)

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/23cc8fdbce0d2e8ae08fe7fd472c1ffd8acf6183

>>384331742
Yeah but in essence this buff to Machinist comes down to 3% + a very minor boost from Overdrive now being a slight gain to use.

This does not make up for having far worse utility offensively and defensively than Bard, and sure as fuck doesn't shore up the damage difference between the two. Machinist is easier to play but still solidly in fucking garbage territory.

>>384331489
Pros :
We can now use the AoE combo to get to Nastrond so it's a bit better for dungeons
Cons :
Everything fucking sucks we only have 140 more potency now

And it's probably staying this way untill 4.1, maybe even later. Oh well.

>>384331457
>those "fuck me in the ass window" pants
Just give me some fucking fancy ass robes or some shit, the only good looking part is maybe the skull helmet depending how it looks in game.

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>>384331796
>got a crit card
>now we can stack it with the sch and drg abilities
>nerf

ast is more OP now

>>384331796
Is this a joke?
SCH is undisputed god-king once again, and AST is pretty much unchanged since you now have 2 worthwhile cards to fish for instead of 1.

Fucking delusional WHM, I swear.

>>384331785
King of what? Being a bitch class that nobody cares about besides for trick attack?

>>384331939
Why would they change SAM or RDM before Savage is even released?

>>384331796
AST is even better now with TWO good cards

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>>384331914
I kind of wish he was right.

>>384331996
SAM detected

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>>384331996
Beg me for it faggot

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>>384331796
>Balance is still really good
>buff a shit card and make it worth casting
>"In the shed"

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>>384331869
>180 potency loss per minute
Literally as dead as NIN. Hope you enjoyed your play time, but now it's time to reroll a real tank.

>>384331954
fuck this

>>384331796
Fuck you guys with this shed meme KILL YOURSELVES

>>384331424
>>384331457
These aren't added yet

>No mention of "unexpected error now exiting FFXIV" being fixes
Wow thanks Square it's not like i'm crashing every 10 minutes or anything fucking hell

>>384330603
big numbers = big buckets of cum

>>384332108
which was established already

>>384331954

>adding retarded instances back
>still no option to choose an instance when teleporting

Oh fuck right off.

>>384331770

>3% buff overall

Meh.

>turret can nuke now and not be a dps loss if you do it

Wow so it actually does what its supposed to do unlike the halfbaked shitstain of an idea it was initially.

>60s CD barrel stabilizer means more safe overheats

This is alright.

>its now piss easy to stay in 50 heat and almost impossible to accidentally dip below 50 with a quick reload

But it was already easy as shit to manage your heat unless you just weren't paying attention. I will say that taking that effect off QR is nice though.

Overall however we're still basically worse bards except without any of the utility.

>shed meme
You guys are no better than /ffxiv/

>>384332086
>as dead as NIN
>Trick Attack wasn't nerfed
so not dead at all and still auto-include?

>>384332086
>NIN
>dead
My fucking sides

Balance now gives everyone Cleric Stance!

>PLDs only nerfs were to holy spirit by 30 potency


BHAHAHAHAHHAHAH ENJOY THE KEKSHED WAR AND DRK AHHAHAHAHHAHAAAA

>>384331960
>easier to play now
MCH is going to be even HARDER to fucking play now. With 60s barrel stabilizer, you're going to be expected to overheat as much as possible to be optimal, and overheat for every wildfire at the very least. With the lowered heat gains too, its going to be harder to push into overheat without flamethrower.

>>384332108
>>384332151
"Gear based on the grand prize winner of the Gear Design Contest (Tank Edition) has been implemented. DPS and healer gear based on this design has also been implemented."
>DPS and healer gear based on this design has also been implemented."

Am I missing something here?

>>384332153
Even more retrarded, parties don't even get sent to the same instance. They just get sent to random ones.

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>Those BLM Buffs
Still missing the point Yoshi. Guess I'm going RDM for Omega still.

>>384331763
No, but I mean these aren't really the buffs that are even going to do anything. DRK is way more boring to play now, the options just aren't there. If they wanted to give DRK more fun aoe options they could have considered lowering Dark Passenger's MP cost, or increasing it's DA potency while removing the blind effect. This is buffing what DRK is already good at, something that usually doesn't even matter. In an expert dungeon, it's not like any of the aoe pulls need to be burned down that fast anyways so most will just continue to spam abys drain. I personally love the animation for quietus so I use it whenever I can.
A real buff would have been fixing their defensive CDs to line up with WAR/PLD a little better, maybe cleaning up the "cast" for TBN. Increasing the MP that blood price returns by just a little. You know the actual issues with the job. This isn't even about the world first, there are clear issues with jobs they aren't addressing.

>>384332209
I play this game very casually is a loss of 30 potency bad or no in the long run?

>>384332228
people can't read

they were actually added but didn't showed a pic

>>384332228
>based on this design

>>384332228
>DPS and healer gear based on this design has also been implemented.
DPS and healer gear BASED ON THAT DESIGN has been implemented. Not the other winners - DPS and healer gear are just going to fit the theme of the tank winner.
The caster and healer contest winners will have gear based on them in a later patch.

>>384332228
Its DPS and Healer gears BASED on the design of the Tank Gear.

>>384332228
A paycheck for doing their job

>>384332274
Not bad at all its still 400 potency

>X detected
>I'm the king
>cuckshed
>cucked
>cucks
>""""nerfs""""
>""""buffs""""
>"wtf bros" falseflagging
>mfw reading this thread
Man this place sucks. Look at the shit people are posting, how do people even end up like this? How does someone go so fucking wrong in life they end up in this state?

>>384332195
>>384332202
NIN also lost 180 potency per minute.
DRG on the other hand got 420 potency per minute buff. Literally auto-include.

>>384332287
>based on this design
>THIS DESIGN
NOT THE OTHER CONTEST WINNERS

THIS
DESIGN

>>384331356
the whole problem with BLM was that the switch from umbral into the 6 fire iv's was super awkward because you would be left with exactly 0 mp, so you couldn't switch back to umbral without convert or transpose

the buff is just to make it much more smooth

>>384332215
Thats for absolute maximum dps missing a OH or so wont do much if anything significant to your damage.

>Field instances brought back
Fucking hell, why is it in every area now. It's gonna be a pain in the ass doing hunts now.

>>384332345
they mean this contest*

>>384332342
>people still think NIN was auto-include because of their DPS numbers
Did DRG suddenly get Trick Attack and no one told me?

>>384332274
paladins were the top tank dps with the best utility and the ability to become the main healer if shit go bad. 30 potency means literally nothing for how much shit they have.

WHERE THE DATMINES AT!?

>>384332374
>triple the hunts
>at the cost of slower arrival

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>triplecast cd reduction
I knew this was coming, and I'm still not sure how much I needed this. Felt like the cd was pretty short already, especially since I could almost alternate between it and leylines for casting fast half the time. I'm almost happier about the fire mp cost reduction. Still need to get a feel for the faster fire/blizz IVs, hope they'll be enough to make blizz IV worth it. It irks me how meta-shitters are spreading the meme that in order to push out more dps as a BLM you have to play the job wrong. Kinda feels like we got nothing in particular this time around.

I hope the other jobs are satisfied with their changes.

>>384332315
>>384332317
>>384332324
>>384332313

Huh, That's really obvious now that it's been pointed out, guess I'm retarded.

>>384332374
>have to zone in and out when teleporting
>3x the amount of hunts spawn daily

instances are great dude

>>384332342
NIN was above and beyond the best melee, and DRG was easily the worst
That tiny amount of potency per minute on both jobs isn't enough to change either of these facts
Even putting Trick Attack aside, tanks are reliant on Shadewalker to build the enmity they need to bounce with Shirk

>>384332374
>get 3 A and S rank monsters per zone
>bad

are you stupid?

>>384330965
You don't get it. Before it was Maaaaaybe a free heal for the tank every now and again, usually when you were already done healing him. Now it is a guarranteed free heal for the entire raid. Every time. In susano it will go from 2-3 medica or cure 3 (depending on how dumb your group is) to only 1 or 2 plus PI. Good shit. Lilies are still pretty stupid, but whatever, as long as I can cure into Benis, I have my shield. Wish we could buff group damage or defense somehow.

Where were the MNK buffs?

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>>384332228
I don't really mind, I love Allagan shit.

>>384331960
>>384332215
Well, you can put yourself at 50 heat right after every Overheat, so if you are synced perfectly, that means you've got 50 seconds of time before your next Wildfire, and in that time probably two quick reloads and a full reload not generating heat. So 5 GCDs down out of 20, 15 shots that generate heat, you would have one cooldown and 10 normal shots and would effortlessly reach Overheat again right on time to Wildfire + Reload + quick shot.

Seems pretty straightforward outside of the boss disappearing, in which case you'd either need to flamethrower to make up a bit of lost time or dump the cooldown.

>>384332328
Retards who absorb all this stuff will eventually die of brain aneurysm all according to keikaku

>>384332328
wtf bro i'm not falseflagging
where's my mnk buffs wtf

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Aynone the timeline for when we can expect 4.1?

>>384330210

Well, as a WHM player, I'm happy PI is now fucking useful for something other than the extremely rare cases of 1)it fucking procced at all on your rare Cure I/CureII 2)target person is not full HP/will be taking damage in 30s or less

Like did SE really think high-end players who don't sit there spamming Cure I/II would be grateful to be occasionally rewarded for doing the things they actively avoid doing? At least this way, when there's a ton of ground AoE going out, spamming costly AoE spells isn't as necessary. The shorter timer on them is annoying though. Generally won't need that much healing again in such a short time. So it's still underwhelming but at least it's guaranteed to be able to be used.

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>>384332481
MNK is working as intended. Enjoy.

>>384332374
You'll get more hunts done now though.

>>384332507
october

>>384332507
I heard something like October.

>>384332441
Its not a meme, you legit do more damage from not using Blizz IV. I've personally tested this multiple times on dummies.

>>384331930
Haurchefemme best waifu all time

>>384331324
>sch bitching about MP costs for they spells
I wasnt bitching about that at all.

>>384332507
October

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>>384330503
>mch changes
>its literally nothing

>>384330950
More importantly you can get rid of your held card and royal road. Expect more buffs through the fight now.

>>384332532
i will use it more, but its still never going to hit 3 stacks because thats way too much wasted mana for a minimal benefit.

>>384332342
retard

>>384332491
We wuz allagans n shiiet

>>384332561
>>384332574
>>384332596
Thanks dudes, definitely got time then to save up for a large plot if possible

>>384330120
That .gif is me but I went from monk to sam.

>■Entering the Same Field Instance as a Party Unfortunately, if a party enters an area via Teleport/Return, they may not enter the same Field Instance. You will need to enter the area by foot or mount and select the same Field Instance number to ensure that you stay together.

Ffs, still?

>>384332617
It'd see some use on constant party damage like susano.

>>384331324
Consistently faster Aetherflow, more dots, more heling potency, and Galvanize/Succor isn't necessary anymore.

>>384332697
All they did was turn it back on. I imagine to make party teleporting, or even make ONLY the Lochs have an instance, would require much more work.

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>>384332086
>trying this hard
>can use holy spirit whenever we want, even if the dps is slightly less
>what is requiescat
>not limited to gauge
>holy spirit rapidly fills gauge rather than takes away
>a number of ways for a pld to recover mp and many outside ways to get it from parties or items as well
>thinking a war can mt savage content within the first month or two
>can spam more holy spirit than fell cleaves

This expansion is literally the Legion of XIV

>Makes all the fun character i had different and completely useless
>No more cross class moves

Glad I waited before buying SB. You guys are pathetic.

>>384332587
It shouldn't be this way, though. Hope a .2 spell speed increase is enough to turn it around.

>>384331796
>one more worthwhile buff
>can manipulate your buffs even better now
>shed

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Tanks that respected the content and used vit accessories with strength melds are rewarded with higher strength than deepsfags

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>No Potency Increases on BLM
lol

>>384332258
>it's not like any of the aoe pulls need to be burned down that fast anyways
So why has no one wanted to bring a PLD in dungeons from 2.1 until 4.0? Can you not just accept that this wasn't SUPPOSED to have anything to do with fucking raiding?

They're never going to change Blood Price back because there's literally no reason to do anything but bring a DRK and aggro every single mob possible in dungeons then, and against single targets it never did fuck and Darkside drain removel is a bigger net gain anyways.

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@384332825

thank u for ur input

>>384332494
The hard part is activating Overheat exactly when wildfire comes up consistently without bullets getting in the way. You''ll want to hover around 90-95 heat and have flamethrower ready every minute.

>>384332825
WAR babby is mad hahahahaahhhaaaa
>MUH FELL CLEAVES

ahahahahaahahhaha

>NIN nerfed
fuck what happened to being the stealth best dps

>>384332824
>thinking a war can mt savage content within the first month or two
Fuck you secret Warrior you damn well better MT with your instant stance swapping for free - you fucking take intervention and you like it.

>>384332857
It'll be half the VIT at best.

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Wtf sch bros, there is no patch note about our pink bars suddenly going down? How the FUCK can they get away with this?

>>384332765
>Galvanize/Succor isn't necessary anymore

is that really a good thing though? imo that was the entire thing that made SCH fun to me. now it seems like we're just another healer

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>ctrl+F monk
>one hit just for pvp

how does it feel to be riding MR. YOSHI'S WILD RIDE? i'm just gonna be over here, the standard to which all of you plebs are held.

>>384332860
>needing pot increase on BLM
You should be laughing at your retardation.

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>>384332860
>potency is the only way to increase DPS
>never mind cast times and CD reductions

>>384332951
as long as we have Trick Attack, literally nothing else matters

so will Misama 2 be the same?

What's the ilvl for savage gear drops?

>dude use higanbana
How about you shut your second pussy and spam adlo bitch

why do they keep ignoring monk? tackle masteries are a complete fucking joke and why is fists of wind still a fucking thing when sprint is free

>>384332971
What Yoshi said about Riddle of Fire makes me think we'll get a lot of shit like Pyretic.

SMN mains literally on suicide watch

>>384333038
340

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>>384332886
>So why has no one wanted to bring a PLD in dungeons from 2.1 until 4.0?
Do people care about the jobs they get in dungeons?

>>384332609
>I'm retarded

Please play a different job

>>384332995
>>384332996
RDM will bar none be the best Caster DPS still.
These changes will do basically nothing to BLMs DPS as there will still be no reason to use Blizz IV.

>fotm PLDs desperately clinging to their shed memes
Pathetic

>>384332951
literally nothing happened to that

>lvl 60 SCH
>Decide to try it out in Zurvan EX
>Deployed Adlo crits for 9k
>Zurvan uses his ultimate
>Group takes 0 damage

Am I missing something here? The tooltip only says it extends the Galvanize to others. Zurvan's ultimate usually hits for over 14k so how did we take 0 damage?

>>384333031
How are we supposed to know?

>>384332961
Galv is fine for tankbusters, but succor was always retarded. Indomitability timing is way more engaging.

>>384332971

>complaining about riddle of fire
>not just stacking sks and ignoring the side effects
>not getting sks to a point where you get 2 bootshines/true strikes in one DK/TS window massively increasing chakra gen and overall potency output

I bet you use demolish every 2 combo rotations too because you don't have the SKS to apply it with 2s left.

>>384333113
Tell me, do you know why Blizz IV wasn't used?

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What are the chances of these being the new Allagan tomestones of creation gear?

They're creating a dps and healer set for a reason

>>384330503
>overheat every wildfire except the opener
huh

>>384333097
I got mildly annoyed when I got a PLD or an AST before 3.4

>>384332951
You mean never besides being wanted for trick attack?

>>384333151
critlos double up on the crit, the shield gets juiced+jacked

>>384332258
>DRK is way more boring to play now
Stale meme.

>>384333118
>Play pld all through arr and heavensward despite war babies MUH CLEAVES and drk MUH DARKNESS
>End up better than both

;^) enjoy your shit cleaves.

>>384333097
Every dungeon in the game is now designed with the specific goal of preventing speedruns, and you think no one cares what tank makes runs the fastest?

>>384333113
>no reason to use Blizz IV

blizz IV wasn't used because boss mechanics wouldn't allow the full Fire IV rotation to be done, now it can be with cast times lowered

>>384333187
100% savage gear was shown in the live letter

>If your party contains players replaying an area prior to the weekly reset, the number of treasure coffers appearing upon completion will decreas

So I don't do savage raids but want to now but was this always a thing?

>>384333151
crit is x2

Carrying with SCH on zurv is so fun

>>384333187
Very likely.

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>new player liking WAR
>hear PLD is better in every way
h-help

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>>384333151
that's an 18k shield friend.

>>384333206
You're probably bad
I was relieved because it meant I would have to heal less and could DPS more

I'm a little upset they still didn't fix the v1 boss's name to be Jura Aevis instead of Alte Roite

>>384332971
MNK is just behind SAM for DPS and Brotherhood/mantra are dope as fuck skills for raid utility.

>>384332921
You sure showed him, champ. Way to be an ignorant newfag.

>>384332617
I'll be waiting to see what Savage is like before judging fully, but in all the content we have right now spamming more than 2 GCD AoE heals is kind of overkill. Medica II at/just before the initial hit, Assize for the fun of it, cast Medica or Cure III, and unless your allies are retarded or your co-healer didn't pick up the slack on a recent res/heavily damaged person, you're more than safe. Savage is usually where the kind of healing PI provides is desired and the only time it's reliably useful to have so that will be the real test.

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>Excog is fantastic
>Fey Union is usable
>45s Aetherflows
>No more MP problems

STEP ASIDE FAGGOTS, THE GOD KING OF HEALING ROLE IS BACK

HOWS THAT BALANCE NERF TASTE

>>384333241
it's been a thing since third coil or thereabouts, yea

>scholar can give the raid 15% crit for 15 seconds
>ast can give the raid 5% crit for 20 seconds

ITS NOT FAIR IT WAS SCHOLARS TURN TO BE SHIT NOT OURS

>>384333241
it was in Alexander

loot worked differently in Coil

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>>384330213

>>384333241
Yeah. You'll see "2 chest only" in PF, unless it's monday, then it's "0/1" chest.

>>384333187
Pretty sure its 100% likely it's the new tomes gear.
They wanted it to be accessible to everyone. Though I could of sworn when the first announced the competition that it would be dungeon gear only.

>>384333267
WAR is fine

All the class shitposting you see is relevant only to extreme parsers on fflogs, every class can do fine in all the content.

>>384333267
Look at the buffs WAR didn't just get buffed but had tons of QoL changes as well.

>>384332114
Is this one of those wifi renegotiation issues that they literally can't do anything about because it's on your end?

>>384333238
>less than 1 sec more

times are still shit

>>384333113
So you won't cast B4, big fucking deal, get your head out of your ass and stop using your 3.0 rotation like a fucking retard. Course unless someone spoonfeed you another one you're unlikely to even try searching for something better and will instead whine that you don't do enough damage.

>>384333267
Welcome to what it felt like to be a paladin for 4 years.

>>384333298
>mantra
>doesn't do anything to speed up kills months after the first clears go through when it's been on farm and completely outgeared
shit ability lmao

>>384333285
PLD slowed dungeons way the fuck down in HW, there's no getting around it

and AST was just straight up bad before 3.4

>>384333108
>you can use your skills more without worrying about using barrel cooldown
oh hurr thats so useful I was having a problem over heating :^]
fuck off fag its all shit, they didnt even give us 10% bonus damage on hotshot, and turret overload isnt even that fucking good, they should have just made it do like 600 and 500 and gave turret overcharge a boost since that skill is actually useful.

>>384333267
PLD just got nerfed to the ground, go ahead.

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>>384333173
>plebbit rotation

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>That Plenary Indulgence buff

>>384333267
Party composition matters so little it's not even worth rerolling for unless you're pushing for world firsts or speed clears, just play whatever you have fun with.

>>384333031
Maybe? It says "New Action" so I'm holding out hope its a reskin of Blizz II

>>384333382
I don't think you understand how much that means with slide-casting factored in

>>384333404

>mantra
>makes healers take 2 heals to get everyone to full rather than 3
>one more gcd to dot/cast something
>not a dps increase

Alte Roite mount looks nice. Shame I won't get it any time soon.

>>384333315
fine because now we have two decent cards to fish for instead of one overpowered one

you'll probably still have MP problems even with the Aetherflow buff

>>384333315
>We still don't have a spammable aoe
>We still only have 4 dots as opposed to 6
>Still a crit bitch

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>>384333315
we got crits just like you

>>384333296
We must just accept it, friend.

>playing cuckmoner
>playing blackedmage
Who /Redbull/ here?

>>384332936
Hm I did fuck up my math didn't I, I assumed you'd reattach GB 10s after using Wildfire, when in reality it's 20s due to the cool-off period. So you have 40 seconds to generate 50 heat, and if your ammo usage was on point, 5 bullets (as your first quick reload would occur during your cool-off), so let's assume a 2.35 GCD as that seems pretty normal, that's 17 GCDs to make 50 heat, minus the 5 bullets and you have 12, a very non-ideal number. You'd either reach overheat 2 GCDs early, or Cooldown somewhere in there and reach it late, or forego your quick reloads (seems stupid), or use Flamethrower for a quick 10 heat somewhere, which seems like the most ideal solution.

So I guess your skillspeed's really gonna play into your rotation now.

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>>384333345
what is this? 2010?

as a healer I hate getting DRKs in dungeons

>>384333424
kek no it didn't

>>384333480
RDMs don't even know what slide casting is

>>384333345
nice reddit memes my dude

>>384333521
>>>>5%
lol

>>384333436
Finally it no longer has the distinction of "most underwhelming and largely useless level 70 skill in the game". Who has that crown now?

Which class got shit-all for 70 now that WHM's PI is actually usable and not tied to encouraging sub-optimal play?

>>384333180
GCD cost, what we got in return didn't get us enough pps to be worth using Blizz IV compared to no Umbral Hearts. This is due to F4 doing less damage.

>>384333541
What are you even saying?

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When can we expect the next MSQ continuation?

>>384333570
it now does 40 less dps. It's in the shed forever. Having 6 extra utility abilities compared to the drks 1 and the wars 0 is useless compared to SICK DEEPS.

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>>384333424
>PLD just got nerfed to the ground, go ahead.
OH NO MY 30 POTENCY

>>384333597
most of MNK's new skills

>>384333627
4.1 in october.

>>384333506
Excog potency cd buff + indom potency cd buff means we'll hardly ever need to heal with an adlo

>>384333238
No we didn't use Blizz 4 because we did outright less pps when we used it. Read up on the math in the OF.

>>384333173

How much Sks do you got fgt?

>>384333236
Well, you get a random tank in DF so for most it's not really a question of what you want. And sure going faster is always nice. I just don't see the point in these buffs when DRK has some questionable things like Shadowall being a longer cd and shorter duration with no additional effect compared to Vengeance, leaving TBN as our only exclusive mitigation tool. These just seem like tiny band aids. I haven't had many issues in big pulls getting aggro with a few abyss drains, dropping salted earth, dropping grit and going to town in BW with Quietus. This seems to just be a way to do the same thing but in Grit.

>>384333563
Pre 70 DRK is a pain in the ass, you just take so much damage and have so little mitigation. TBN really needs to be a 60 ability desu.

>>384333506
the aetherflow buff effectively halves the initial nerf

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>>384333589
>they last longer
>can be used faster
>also have damage buff and better heals

Now that whm was buffed I hope you enjoy the shed

LMAO

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>>384333663
Thanks!

>>384333642
>BLM just got nerfed to the ground, go ahead.
>OH NO MY 20 POTENCY

This is what blacked mages sound like

>>384333650
Riddle of Fire and Brotherhood are hardly fuck all
People are just autismos because they didn't get new attacks

>>384333049
Use the banana on bosses you fucking retard. It's a shitload of damage. Throw it up on anything that will live through or nearly through its duration. As a tank and SAM its amazing how many of these fucks think the SLIGHT DELAY to their big hitting shut isn't worth it.

Enhance it while you're at it because 50% buff makes it the best Dot in the game

>>384333686

Not as much as I'd like, but that's because there are limited options with gear choices currently.

With the release of tomestone and savage gear, I hope to have as many crit/sks pieces as I can get.

>>384333737
>5% for 20s every 60s if you're lucky
>better than a garuntee every 120s
its balance vs fey wind all over again

>>384333749
>blm
>spells that uses all the time

>pld
>spells that they use just when the cool down is up

hahahaha

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I don't think I understand how the loot rules work for savage raids. Can somebody explain to me?

It sounds like it punishes the other people you play with if you've already beaten it that week, which sounds really fucking retarded, but also there isn't enough chests for everybody to get loot so like, if you get unlucky you just get nothing that week at all? You can't retry like a normal raid?

>>384333597
SAM higanbana is useless i could shit out an extra 24k midare which adds up to more dps than i would with higans dot. You could delete it from the game and nothing of value would be lost. Its a red herring.

>>384333749
its 36 potency overall due to AF but w/e.

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>>384333650
MNK got shit all for HW and we barely got anything for SB. The job is still a blast to play with the new chakra system though. AST and SCH giving party crits is a dream come true.

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>>384333223
How is that a meme? Do you know what a fucking meme is?
The class is objectively more boring to play now than it was in HW. The class is effective but I have no idea what the fuck they're doing with it.
>Low Blow has damage removed, no longer resets on parries, is made into a role ability
>Low Blow has damage removed, no longer activates on parries, is made into a role ability
>Dark Dance removed in favor of the role ability Anticipation
>Dark Passenger removed from hotbar because using now it will actually gimp you for the rest of any fight
>Blood Price's sole purpose is to refill your blood gauge now but it doesn't get this effect until 66, enjoy restoring 1/100th of your mp per hit
Literally just 1-2-3 while occasionally popping Blackest Night for muh Bloodspiller.

>all these people shitting on WAR
>when every WAR is a WARRIOR of light

Mad you're not mommy crystal's chosen

>>384333836
If you're not spamming holy spirit at full mp you're doing it wrong

>>384330884
>Is Blizzard 4 going to be actually worth using now?
Probably not, since Fire IV got the same buff. Skipping Blizz IV is still more PPS.

>>384333775
>Riddle of Wind
>the tackles
>Riddle of Earth 90% of the time