>shunned because the soundtrack was way ahead of its time

1 is better

Remake is godly

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only good songs were Bulldozer and The Poets 1. maybe Cycle 2.
everything else was meh.
2 > 1 >>>>>>> BK3 > Remake >>>>>>>>>> SoR3

it's shunned because level gimmicks and nonsense difficulty curve

the soundtrack isn't even that abrasive, it's also objectively shit compared to 2

>>384301343
Dub Slash is very good too.

>>384300928
>only recently it gained recognition and respect it deserves
It did?

>>384301004
3 has the best gameplay.
1 has the best atmosphere.

>>384301343
Mona & Lisa would like a word with you. Also Shinobi Reverse.

>>384301745
Shinobi Reverse would be up there if not for that annoying tinny rattling midway through. Same with Crazy Train, come to think of it.
Boss theme is pretty much just remixed Fuze which is just a poor man's Expander anyway.

Remake >>>>>>>>>>>> 3 > 2 > 1
For both gameplay and music.

>>384301004
Reamke AI is retarded.

where did the SoR3 soundtrack is bad meme come from anyway

10 years ago I never saw anyone share that opinion, all the SoR soundtracks were regarded as great at the very least

>>384302039
Underage retards who all "heard" 2 was the best from reviews. Same people all say Mega Man 2 is the best Mega Man game ever.

>>384302039
SOR3 had a lot of to live up to audio wise, SOR2 OST was just that good. They went with sort of experimental music which didn't blend with people at the time.

>>384302039
Spinning Machine, Tunnelway and Bad Ending are absolutely abhorrent. Blame them for bringing down the overall quality of the soundtrack.

>>384302039
Most people only played 2 or can remember 2. Everyone who played back then can pick out stuff like Go Straight or Dreamer but can't really remember SoR3's.

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>>384302229
>SOR3 Bad Ending

Hearing is believing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_BwNajcGJk

>>384302363
Glad I grew up with 3 and 1. Didn't play 2 til it was released on Dreamcast collection.

SOR threads are always the same guys from /vr/ (vludi, corkscrew blow, etc) arguing with each other over the same things that they argued about in the previous SOR threads.

Anyway.

SOR1:
Blaze >>> Axel > Adam

SOR2:
Max >> Axel >>>>> Skate >>>>>>>>Blaze

SOR3 (not including the secret characters)
Zan >>> Blaze >>> Axel >>> Skate

>>384302483
Oh, and by "arguing", I mean samefagging.

I liked Tekken 6's story mode or whatever the fuck it was called because it reminded me of Streets of Rage.

>>384302209
it's not even experimental though, it's just noiser, harder techno as opposed to SoR1/2's rave/house pastiche
I mean the Mega Drive's FM8 chip is pretty much built for those rawer, more aggressive sounds anyway

I'm of the ilk who thinks SoR2 is the best soundtrack and the best game in the trilogy, but people saying SoR3's is actually bad is just silly

>>384302229
>Spinning Machine
>absolutely abhorrent
this is a lie

>>384302405
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_BwNajcGJk
just sounds like Yuzo discovered serialism

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>>384302749
Spinning Machine is just the same 2-second loop over and over again. And it's a bad loop.
Good on you for preferring best game though.

>>384302229
>Not liking Spinning Machine
That shit is hype, bro.

Tunnelway and Bad Ending can go, yeah. Though to be fair, you don't hear Tunnelway for very long at all.

wasn't BK3/SoR3's music made algorithmicly?

>>384303054
It's just a character select screen?

>>384303248
and? Didn't keep SoR1/2's character select theme from being good.

>>384303129
apparently so, although the source to the interview cited on Wikipedia is dead
I'd love to read it

dunno why Yuzo didn't go into IDM in the mid 90s
some of the stuff on SoR3 is not that far removed from what Autechre makes today

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Is this supposed to be the SoR4??
https://youtu.be/k4ooiR8mXTM
It seems Sega dodged a bullet

>>384303129
>>384303493
Music made by Yuzo Koshiro uses some kind of random sequencer that Yuzo wrote himself. The actual tracks that everyone likes from SOR3 were done by Motohiro Kawashima.

>>384303498
I always got this confused with Psychic Force, not at the time but much later when i was trying to remember Psychic Force's name so i could emulate it.

>>384303493
It's exactly the reason you just said. It was the mid 90s. Electronic music was thriving, new genres were born at the time like drum'n'bass, hardcore etc. People were trying out new things.

>>384303748
Not many people know that at all. I don't know why and I don't understand why he hasn't done more stuff in vidya. Last I heard of him, he did the ost (one song) in some game called "Oh Deer!"

>>384300928
It had a couple great tracks. But most of it is still just random noises.

>>384302405
It's not like it's supposed to sound good. It's just supposed to sound chaotic and bad. A real song would have been a better choice though.

>>384304197
none of the games he works on now give him the opportunity to flex his electronic muscles like SoR did

he needs a good cyberpunk to work with
I wonder if any indie devs making 2D beat em ups have approached him

>>384300928
it's shunned because it's fucking bullshit
BK3 is too easy, but SOR3's difficulties are basically:
>easy is baby easy
>default is harder than BK3's hardest
>and it only gets worse

it's a shame too:
The soundtrack isn't better than the classic house sound the first two had, but I can appreciate SOR3's harsh sound, it really sets the mood to beat people up.
There's some really great shit too, like Fuze, Shinobi Reverse, Random Cross, The Poets I and II, Percussion, the boss theme -- fuck, that's half the soundtrack already.
Also, the enhanced movement is really nice, run and side-dodge are really nice.

>>384302405
well yes
it's the bad ending
it's there to emphasize how much you fucked up
Tunnelway doesn't have a reason to be so bad, though.

>>384304478
>>384304598
You can do a bad end theme without making it sound low-quality. Hell, they did it in SoR1 and it would've fit just perfectly in 3.

>>384302031
You are retarded

>>384305104
Well, that's why I said a real song would have been better. But you have to take intention into account.

>>384304598
SOR3 on normal is pretty easy with Blaze or Zan.

I think SOR3 has a reputation for being too difficult because most people probably chose Axel as their first character.

>>384304539
i take that back actually he is making a lot of EDM for the wangan midnight games, but it's all very middle of the road shit
again, an indie dev with the budget to spare should approach him to make something a lot more alienating

Man, SOR Remake not only did justice to all of the music tracks with its arrangements, the one original track that plays during the boss fight is just fantastic. I wish Sega would have approached them and released the game as an official title. I think everyone would have been happy with that, except for /vr/. I have no idea why they hate this game so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkR3P1p1nlE

>>384302229
>He hates Spinning Machine
Get rekt son

>>384302405
Sounds like a retarded version of Super Metroid's Maridia theme.

>>384300928
I thought Sor3 was shunned because of the rediculous censorship and the bizzare increase in difficulty.

any contemporary games with soundtracks that are alienating or experimental compared to the average game score?

all I can think of is evergrace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgJbPYDVgwM

>no love for Kamaa de Coco

Best song in all of SoR is...?

>>384305186
SOR3 is literally hard as hell, bro. The US version goes far beyond the original.

I've played through it a trillion times so its not so bad anymore but back then you practically needed a second player.

>>384305484
>one original track
there was more than one though. Entertainment Street off the top of my head.

I hate Remake mostly because they applied SoR3's gotta-go-fast AI to the entire game, which makes running mandatory. Otherwise it could've been the best in the series.

>>384306364
Max Man. Hands down.

>>384306364
Go Straight

>>384306364
Go Straight

I can't believe they got away with that in the 90s.

>>384306510
you mean directly copying Good Life without paying for it?

>>384306389
SOR3 is not hard with Blaze or Zan on normal.

People only struggle with it because they try to play it like SOR2. But once you figure out what works and what doesn't, then the game is not hard

In SOR3, with blaze all you need is her jump kick, jab, grabs, and specials. With Zan, replace the jump kick with his shoulder tackle.

SOR3's difficulty is overrated, at least on normal. Hard is another story.

>>384306710
No, trying to counter SJW when it was still in its infancy.

>>384306364
Go Straight or Dreamer

>>384306807
The american version of SoR3 on its easiest is harder than the Japanese version on its Hardest.

>>384306807
I was talking about hard. Though normal is indeed a struggle.

You're right about people trying to play it likr SOR2 though.

>>384302124
>look mom I shitposted again!

I once found a video on youtube of Yuzo Koshiro's stuff from SoR from some special soundtrack CD but with extra songs or different arrangements on it, now I can't find it. I think it had some orchestrated stuff on it

>>384307025
I'm talking about SOR3, which is the non-jpn version. If I were talking about BK3 I would've said BK3. BK3 is one of the easiest beatemups ever made, even on the hardest difficulty.

>>384307081
>Though normal is indeed a struggle.

Depending on your character. Blaze or Zan breezes through normal. Axel is a challenge. Skate is a struggle.

I was able to no-continue SOR3 normal with Blaze and Zan on my 2nd try. Blaze's jump kick is OP. Zan's shoulder is OP. If SOR2 is played like Tekken, then try to play SOR3 like Smash.

>>384307134
wow pedantics.
Just completly ignore the mad difficulty increase in the localization.
I bet you prefer the less gay character colors too

>>384300928
I like Zan's design

Given that there are so many ways to play SOR Remake with options to choose from SOR 1, 2 and 3, which configuration is the best one?

>>384306364
Slow Moon

>>384307357
>pedantics

The fuck are you even talking about. What part of "SOR3" did you not understand.

>Just completly ignore the mad difficulty increase in the localization.
BK3 is way too easy. SOR3 at least provides a challenge. The difficulty increase was necessary.


>I bet you prefer the less gay character colors too
ad hominem. So you're out of arguments?

>>384307465
Whichever one lets you fight Rudra.
>that 10/10 theme

>>384302031

>WAAAAAH THIS GAME IS TOO HARD FOR ME!!!

>>384307763
I meant the config you set in options for running(SOR3) or walking(previous games), weapon usage, using guns and so on. Routes you take during the game are a completely separate thing.

>>384307625
Not that guy, but you're aware that they increased the difficulty for the US version only because people were renting cartridges at the time?

>>384308380
Regardless, in terms of gameplay, the difficulty boost was a good thing.

BK3 can be beaten by spamming blitzes. First time I played it on the hardest diff. I chose Zan and no-deathed the entire game doing nothing but shoulder tackles on the bottom of the screen. It's easy with Blaze and Axel too.

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>>384308194
Oh, right.
This is how I have mine.

>>384306139
I guess SH too, struggling to find anything else that sounds fucked up or ahead of it's time in the way these games did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY92NAdGaR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekPaYGVLifY

no Max no buy

>>384306364
I see people always going with Go Straight but I still think Fighting in the street is way better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bf-EGuMfag

>>384308648
Well those are default setting I believe. I was wondering if someone did an unusual config.

The bosses are impossible to hit. Fuck mom and lisa

>>384310801
Just spam run and jumpkick. There's no time limit after all.
It's still terrible design though.

>>384310801
Use specials on them. There's a free turkey in that fight. When they get close, use your special. Test it out yourself and see which special works better per character. The damage is not bad on the neutral special btw. Try to hit both bitches with one special. Once you've drained most of your health due to using specials (obviously you want to space them out so that you can get as many FREE specials as possible) then eat the turkey, and repeat.

In that fight, specials are waaaaaay more efficient than jump kicks.

>>384311112
>use Dragon Smash on Mona/Lisa
>they get pushed out of it before the last three hits
who the fuck thought that was a good idea

>>384307423
The mix of cyborg/old asian master works surprisingly well.

>>384311329
That's why i said see which special works better per character. Neutral special works fine on them. Unlike sor2, axel's neutral special does decent damage

>>384301343
Where is IGS, better than some of the shit there

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>>384308648
>mfw playing on mania

Cadillacs & Dinosaurs made me soft.

Will we ever get SOR4? Seems like Yuzo Koshiro is the only that cares about this franchise.

>>384312019
Even as Rudra?
She bodies everything and everyone without even trying.

>>384312128
I only play Adam.

>Streets of Rage Remake is forever lost

It's not fair.

>>384308021
He's right though. It's not like Past SOR games. If you walk up to an enemy in Remake the enemy walks backwards off screen and you have to go all the way to the other side of the screen to bait him. It wasn't like this in old Street of rage games. Other than that it's a fine game.

>>384312225
I only play Axel, Blaze and Shiva.
SOMETIMES I'll go with the homie Skate

>>384312234
?

>>384312234
It's not lost. It's been Cease & Desist, but it's easily obtained with a quick google search.

>>384306818
you niggers are so stupid

>>384312426
It's just a joke brah.

>>384302483
>SOR threads are always the same guys from /vr/ (vludi, corkscrew blow, etc)
I barely discuss SoR there, I don't play the games much.

>>384312362
On what difficulty? On hard you get punished all over the place. You gotta be super quick with grabs. Getting punished everytime I do a bare knuckle gets on my nerves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9LbRTwS0rk

>almost 11 minutes

Some people may not like this game, but they sure did try.

>>384300928
Outright the best game in the series

>>384302483
ayy, good call.
>>384314693

>>384314924
(You)

>>384314924
>still konami kusoge and no IGS
pls fix this

>Replaying SORR cause of the thread
>I'm getting juked, anti-aired and punished all over the place
Dumb AI my ass. These motherfuckers are quick.

I love this game

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>>384315226
>no online mode
I will never not be mad

childhood is loving SOR1.
Adolescence is believing SOR2 was the best.
Adulthood is realizing that SOR3/BR3 had the most depth.

>>384315801
>jump kick to win
>depth
LOL

>>384315925
BK3 also had the best story out of all the games.

>>384315925
>SOR2
>Hitstun light jab to win

>>384316126
it had the most story, but it wasn't a good story.

>>384315801
This

>>384316239
I've seen worst stories made into live action movies. What's great about BK3/SOR3 is that it has branching paths which adds to replayability.

>>384316424
branching path was fucking pointless since the losing path was just another Shiva fight. True end route at least gave you the Dr. Dahm fight, as bland as that was.

I think the only song SORR ruined was Dreamer. The original is perfect.

>>384316424
The path with the bomb and the timers was the true path right? I can't remember, and that shit was impossible as a kid.

>>384316746
Yes, if you did it the rooms correctly you get the true ending.

>>384316696
Even so, you get to listen to one of the best tracks in the game, The Poets, during the regular stage and you end up fighting Shiva in front of an animated audience and cameras filming the whole thing. How fucking cool is that?

>>384316212
>implying you can easily jab 6 fast as fuck enemies
yeah no, it's nowhere near as exploitable as jump kicks in sor3 where even the fucking final boss is cheeseable

>>384317186
>how fucking cool is that
pretty fucking lame considering you already whooped his ass at the start of the game.
The Poets 1 is damn good, but everything else about branching paths just fell flat.

>>384317440
also if we're talking aesthetics and setting, Stage 7B was a TERRIBLE setting for The Poets 1. song would've been much better at a military base or aircraft carrier or something. it just looks fucking stupid walking through the White House / City Hall with hard industrial shit blasting.

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>>384317686

>>384316696
>>384317440
this, branching paths in SoR3 are pretty lackluster compared and doesn't add much unlike later games like D&D or KoV

>>384317849
thanks for confirming your retardation.

>Tunnelway
>Fucking ninjas KEEP COMING

>>384317686
Not at all, especially considering how late game-sounding it was. Made you feel like shit was finally going to get settled. The Poets II is better though.

>>384300928
I've always preferred SoR3's soundtrack and graphics/character design to the others.

>>384301529

and 2? A like Max McFuckhuge

>SoR2 retard samefagging the shit out of the thread like he always does

You have a serious mental illness, seek help

inb4 he calls me corckscreblow

>>384318293
?
Half of the thread is in support of SoR3

>>384318390
Don't reply, the guy needs help.
https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=cartoon+sor2
https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Streets+of+Rage+tier+list
https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=sor2+samefag

>>384317440
I think it was neat that the first major fight was the mid-boss from the very end of SOR2. It made me feel that shit got real right at the very beginning of SOR3. Also you don't get to truly beat him as he runs away. I think the whole presentation of the fight in bad ending path completely made up for you not being able to get the true ending. You may have failed, but the battle you got completely made up for it.

>>384301343
ninja warriors home console only. wat?

its an arcade port even if its shitty one

>>384300928
>ahead of its time
The only noteworthy thing about it is that it's the first time Yuzo didn't just blatantly steal someone else's music and SPOILER ALERT it sounded like shit because he's nothing but a mother fucking god damn hack loved by damn manchildren who refuse to accept the truth like >>384302039
>>384302124
who would rather just bury themselves in a sea of delusion never able to move on with their pathetic insignificant miserable little lies. Fucking kys you're nothing but a blight upon the belt scroller community just drop dead already god damn.

>>384312735
Mania.

>>384319227
It's a different game you nigger not a port, and better than the arcade btw

>>384319828
Prove it.

>>384319828
>and better than the arcade btw
But arcade has Daddy Mulk.

>>384319895
No because it takes 2 secs in google you lazy fag

>>384319968
well yeah it's missing zuntata, but still a nice ost and a lot better overall game

>134 posts and no one apologized yet

Fuck you /v/.

>>384320782
sorry bro busy with other belt scrollers instead of this meme series

>>384301343
Nah, Poets I and Inga Rasen.

>>384306364
Go Straight if you're a pleb
Spin on the Bridge if you're patrician
Moon Beach if you're contrarian
Anything from 3 (apart from Poets I) if you're retarded

SoR1 had the best ost

>>384324020
>implying Dub Slash is bad

>>384324617
Bad? Nah, it's an average SoR tune.

is there a video game with harsh noise wall yet

>>384300928
why does axl look like mickey rourke post plastic surgery?

>>384325120
Yeah it's called "I'm having trouble tuning this CRT to my Spectrum through this dodgy RF wire".

>>384325120
Doom on the 32X.

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>>384325405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6G-YGNrWm8
this that good shit

>>384325541
>red and black loading lines
That's a first.

Also for some reason it never ceases to surprise me how good the spec's audio was when I hear it again some 20 years later.

>>384325352
>axl
AXEL this isn't fucking Guns N Roses.

>>384301343
Put the Combatribes on that list, too.

warriors of fate is really easy with guan yu

>>384301343
>Putting Simpsons and TMNT over Vendetta for Konami
>Listing Fighting Force at all
>No Double Dragon Advance

>>384329381
if warriors of fate is easy then punisher is retarded tier

now when will Hyperstone Heist get the respect it deserves

>>384329910
WIth Guan Yu, warriors of fate 1cc is as easy as punisher 1cc.

With Huang Zhong, it's like 100x harder obviously

>>384330229
>slide to win
never,silly console brawler

>>384330354
>WIth Guan Yu, warriors of fate 1cc is as easy as punisher 1cc.
lol fucking no, stage 6 to 9 alone in WoF are harder than anything in Punisher, you can trivialize anything with nades

>>384330535
*shrug* Not with Guan Yu.

>>384330619
even with guan yu you still need to know your shit, punisher is a joke due to how overpowered your characters are

>>384330783
The thing about WoF is that once you get good at the game, there is like literally no random chance that will fuck you up. the game doesn't have shit like that

In Final Fight, even if you're a boss at that game, there's certain spots where some random chance will fuck you over (e.g. fat asses decide to bullrush constantly, gados decide to stay out of reach with knife while you're downed, etc), and there's certain spots in the game where you need a bit of luck (such as the fight before the last boss).

obviously i was exaggerating in comparing it with punisher so calm your tit

but when it comes to WoF, once you're good, the game doesn't have any curveballs to throw at you. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I actually LIKE that. It's one of the funnest beatemups out there. But that doesn't change the fact that it's pretty easy to 1cc with Guan Yu. You just need good fundamentals.

>>384331312
>there is like literally no random chance that will fuck you up
Except there are, in WoF you have chances to fail grabbing enemies while that never happens in Final Fight, enemies hit the air for no reason at random, sometimes they outrange you just because they want, sometimes they hit you many times without even a knockdown etc.

Final Fight isn't all that hard, it has some cheap stuff like the fast slide gados, but overall the AI is a lot more predictable and less aggressive than wof. Boss 6, 8 and 9 are harder than any boss in final fight also

>>384319361
Yeah I remember when he stole the OST for Revenge of Shinobi

Oh wait...

>>384332175
most of those things can be avoided. when using guan yu, just avoid using horsie because his slash is a couple frames slower than Zhao Yun for example. be careful when fighting tall dudes, esp. the bow user. prioritize punch, punch, throw rather than grabs.

boss 6 is a bit tricky, but 8 and 9 are easy. wof bosses are mostly the same. as a general rule, exploit their vertical movement. once they've decided to move behind you, they literally do nothing else but walk. not sure why you're comparing them w/ final fight bosses. it's not like final fight is known for hard boss fights.

>>384332694
>not sure why you're comparing them w/ final fight bosses
Because some of them are challenging due to the aggressive mook, FF bosses are braindead

I've cleared both games, Final Fight is easier to clear consistently than WoF with more room for mistake

>>384333317
>I've cleared both games, Final Fight is easier to clear consistently than WoF with more room for mistake

I've done the same. WOF is easier than FF when using Guan Yu.

>>384332175
>Final Fight isn't all that hard

Can you explain this. It's the hardest beat em up I've played.

The second stage boss is nuts and all the tactics against him are incredibly high risk.

The enemies and numerous enough so that if you get knocked down sometimes there's no real way to get back on the offense short of constant spam of the suicide attack.

Plus the whole game is ridiculously long. Compared to other beat em ups enemies seem to have twice the normal amount of health and there are twice as many of them.

>>384333649
Enemy AI is fairly predictable once you learn them. A+B attack consumes very little hp so you can spam it a lot to avoid danger. Getting knocked down is only dangerous in specific parts with high tier enemies. Sodom if fairly cheeseable, it's all about having a plan for his weak up and focus on grab.

I'm not a big fan of SoR2 but that game in mania is a lot harder than Final Fight with much more aggressive AI (although it's also balanced differently because it gives you a shitton of extends unlike Final Fight).

>>384334135
You like SoR3 better than 2?

>>384334254
I'm not that fond of either, but probably prefer SoR2 for dayum hit sound and not having that weird combo mechanic