What are your hopes and expectations for FE Switch? I'm

>>384278445
Censoring
Time travel children garbage
Garbage localization
Self-insert trash

didn't they accidentally spoil it was a port of the 3DS game?

>>384278445
If it gets Hidari's art but is otherwise just like Awakening and Fates will elitists love it or hate it? I mean on one hand they hate anything 'nu' FE, but on the other they worship Hidari like the messiah.

>>384278697
FE Switch isn't FE Warriors. Stop confusing the two.

>>384278928
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/07/13/amazon-es-briefly-listed-fire-emblem-fates-complete-edition-for-switch-and-then-removed-it/

Character Designer: Homare

>>384278445
Get rid of the gameplay shit and just make it a eugenics simulator dating sim

>>384279064
That would be pretty cool. I havent touched my special edition of Fates, might just sell it and grab this instead.

But no, they specifically said new game, its not gonna be a port.

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>>384278865
Hidari's art looks too dated and brown IMHO. It's really quality but I think Kozaki fits modern Fire Emblem better

>>384279064
was fake

>>384279064
Didn't know about this. But it's obviously fake since it's a port and slated to be released in 2017 instead of 2018.

>>384278445
FE7-6 remake with eugenics and avoidable Hector death if certain requirements met

>>384279551
D O O T

>>384278865
They'll hate it because the latest meme is that Fates was good.

>>384280386
That "meme" has been going on for a while.

>>384280506
Not really. Fates is the game that newfags like because it's the only game that both panders to their self-insert needs and has passable gameplay.

>>384278445
No VN bullshit
No kids
No pair-up
No class swap
No world map
Branching promotions
Less anime kitsch

>>384280386
my least favorite part about that meme is how 1 out of 3 routes being better than gutter trash manages to make Fates as a whole a good entry in the series

Conquest has the best levels in any FE game in a while for sure, but it has plenty of flaws that have been discussed to death. BR and REV however don't have much in the way of redeeming qualities

>>384280861
unrealistic expectations aren't healthy anon

>>384280027
>avoidable Hector death
But why ?
Either way he has to die, since wielding Armads makes it so that he will die in battle

>>384278445
I hope it's something different.

Even if Fates put a good spin to the classic FE formula, I still had way more fun with Echoes.
I'm not gonna spend another 200 hours of my life on a Fates 2.

>>384280859
The majority of the fanbase have liked Fates since it released. Nice revisionist history.

>Gameplay on par with Conquest
>A plot that actually has effort and isn't an utter trainwreck like Fates
>Hidari art just to piss off Kozaki
>No children units
>Don't make every Female support every male and vice versa. Limit it to a small group so they can have better / more supports with those people, like instead they get support rank D or E - S. Think GBA amount of supports but without the 5 conversation limit

>>384281128
I'm not buying another FE after Fates so let me dream

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>>384280861
everyone laugh at this anon

>>384281271
Considering that a plurality of the fanbase was Awakening trash at the time of release, and that a plurality of the fanbase now are Heroes shitters, that's not really an argument against what I said.
A section of the game isn't total garbage and so newfags seized upon it as a way to prove that they weren't waifufaggots. Prove me wrong.

>>384278445
>Hopes
Better animations, something closer to what Xrd did so we can get rad attack animations while still having 3D models for the cutscenes
Potential branching stories all on the same card. I'm not going to let myself get jewed out again just so I can get the full story
No kids unless they're story important
The old form of support convos. If I wanted to ship characters together I'd just do that in any other game.
An axe lord, because I just want another lord who carries an axe.

>Expectations
More of the stuff Fates/Awakening brought in
$60 worth of DLC
Everyone can marry everyone
Another 1000 year old mage/Chinese mytth dragon
Maybe some kind of online multiplayer

>>384278445
>having hopes for fire emblem
It's dead

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>>384280859
Passable gameplay? Conquest straight up has the best gameplay in the entire series and the most depth at that, especially if you aren't a bitch using the DLC. There isn't anything that really comes close to how tight and fun the maps are.

>>384281364
This pretty much. I'd also add the removal of MU, or at least downsizing back to a Tactician role, or Robin at the most, but downsize on the amount of supports a huge amount. I'd like it to become quality over quantity.

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>>384281713
Here we go.

>>384281271
>The majority of the fanbase have liked Fates since it released.

That's a complete lie. Pretty much everyone agrees that:

>Birthright
The bare minimum expected in a normal FE plot, boring characters and gameplay as shit as Awakening

>Conquest
Best gameplay in an FE game. Better characters but still suffer from stale clichés. Absolutely atrocious story, the worst in FE history.

>Revelations
Not worth the price of two games. Shit maps with too much gimmicks. Terrible unit balance and a story as shit as Conquests.

>>384281581
Can't you jerk off to something else and let fire emblem be good again

>>384279551
Hidari is a decent artist but gets overrated by the anti-Awakening crowd. I'd rather have Wada than Hidari.

>>384278445
Re:Awakening
A sequel to the game that saved the franchise.

>>384281584
The majority of the fanbase being oldfags liked Conquest. It's not some latest meme.

>>384281773
FE7 got it mostly right with MU; just have them be another guy without some major element in the plot the main lord(s) confide with every now and then.

Basically Mark if he want a playable unit.

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>>384281840
fire emblem was never good

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>map design of CQ/RD
>difficulty of CQ/RD
>ledges and elevation from RD
>BEXP system of tellius games
>skill system from RD

I really like RD

>>384279064
It used fanart as a cover. It was fake a shit. The switch isn't going to be getting 3DS ports.

>>384282173
Mark is awful though.
>have a unit die and stay dead
>"well Mark your tactics have been perfectly sound so far, there's no way we can lose with you leading us"
>...
>"Great, let's go!"

>>384282173
>FE7 got it mostly right with MU

What ? A self-insert that do jack shit in the story is "mostly right" ?
It's literally the worst option, if the "MU" is not even an unit and has next to zero interaction with the characters/story, why bother ?

>>384282450
RD is the pinnacle of the series

>>384278445
Have a hub like the castle in fates where I can see my waifu's in hd glory

>>384282621
I agree but it's hardly like Eliwood or Hector gave a shit for most of their army.

>"Hey Eliwood you know thst warrior guy who travelled with us. Bartre or Barst or Batta the Beast?"
>"Yeah?"
>"Yeah the poor fellow got hamstrung in that last fight so he had to be left behind"
>"Oh okay. Thought you were gonna say something about Ninian then."

>>384281773
>>384282173
MU should be done away with entirely and replaced with a customizable lord like Corrin.

There's nothing wrong with customizing the MC. If you're forced to bring along Eliwood/Ike/Eirika, then you might as well as provide customization options for future playthroughs.

Corrin sucked not because he was a self-insert, because he's not. This is what a lot of people don't get. Corrin has his own personality and you don't get to make decisions or dialogue trees. Corrin sucked because he was badly written, but the concept of a customizable lord MC is the best concept in FE.

>>384282997
Finally someone gets it.

>>384282450
RD is best game.

>>384282874
>>384283245
>2 minute long enemy phases even with animations off
>half the characters are absolute shit with even worse availability
>story is a mess and is piggyback riding off of PoR entirely
>great maps are often undermined by how easy they are to complete
It got skills and supports(gameplay wise) right but there was so much wrong with the game.

>>384283712
>>great maps are often undermined by how easy they are to complete
it's amazing how a single utterly wrong statement throws out the credibility of an entire post

>>384282450
I just want the aesthetic of RD to come back. This or hidari

Just give me a good story. Fates had such a terrible story.

>>384284006
Are you telling me that you actually struggled with the non dawn brigade segments?

not being as shit as echoes and rev

>>384284064
The Tellius look is a good compromise between the old and new aesthetics

>>384280861
This is true,but also,there's no way they'll ever go back.You sound like a classic FE fan so I'll just say: FE is dead.

I want a good game that every part of the Fire Emblem fanbase new and old can appreciate but I expect something that's going to make everyone throw a shitfit one way or another

You guys know it's just going to be Awakening 2, right?

>>384285939
Awakening 2: Awakening harder?
Sounds intriguing.

i'm tired of all this FE

FE is becoming the CoD of nintendo

I want conquest gameplay.
A completely new artist.
If you are going to force kids on us do it in a way that makes sense.
A decent story- gameplay is more important to me then story.
Around 5-7 supports for each unit with effort put into them.
I like customizable lords, but I want them to be a good character unlike Corrin.
Keep the class system like Fates had it.

>>384286168
>Not Reawakening
You didn't even try

>>384286312
>Implying it won't be Reawakening of Fates: Eugenics Quest

>>384278445
>What are your hopes and expectations for FE Switch?

A return to the perfect balance of anime-shit that was pre-Awakening FE.

Haha... ;_;

Fates: Conquest gameplay/map quality
Wada or Hidari doing the art.
No self insert protagonist
Roman or Samurai looking characters.
World map.

>>384284565
sweetie if youve only played on ezmode you can't talk about the game

>>384278445
A unit that fights with their fists. If they're going big with this one, might as well go full anime

>>384278445
No gayfag shit, but I know better at this point.

Interracial relationships!

>>384287223
You mean laguz?

>>384278445
If they do kids this time around, which I'm sure they will, have a timeskip and some more in depth attention to detail to them. Have some additional aesthetics differences, not just hair. Hand out kids to both men and women for sibling potential. Have more unique supports.

>>384287223
They already went full anime with the fucking maids and weeb setting

>>384287128
I played on normal, I'm not playing on hard because you shouldn't have to remove mechanics the game is balanced around to make it challenging

>>384285939
Fire Emblem: The Awakening to your Brithright of Conquest Revealed

Just make conquest but with different characters.

Or keep it the same just new epic maps. If you care about anything else then you belong on reddit

I want to go back to sprites so we can get more interesting animations again. Or at least, that's why I wanted that for the 3DS games. The Switch can probably handle doing cool shit with the models without exploding violently.

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>>384289765
IS has 140+ employees and made millions off FE, there's literally zero excuse for not going back to sprites again

>>384289442
>epic
>other people belong on reddit

good post

>>384290443
Nice.
Jugdralfag, Elibefag, Telliusfag

Which one are you?

>>384290341
True, but unlikely to change anything. FE's making a turn for the cinematic, so they'll cling to the 3D models. I'd be happy if we got Xrd-esque models, but that likely won't happen.

>>384290659
just a humble pre-awacuckning fag, anon

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>>384290341
Maybe due the fact they're unpopular?
No offense but what you want is different from their core audience

>>384278445
If piracy is available I will buy a switch just for it. Otherwise I can pass and wait a while.

>>384288790

>What are your hopes and expectations for FE Switch?

That the FE fanbase collectively commits suicide once it's released.

>>384290712
I don't see how "cinematic" has anything to do with it. All of the in-game cutscenes use separate, higher-quality models

>>384290841
>sprite art
>unpopular
come on nigga, not even Awakeningfags can be this tasteless

>>384278445
That if the custom unit comes back they have only a small role and more editing(i.e skin color,weight,and height sliding). Tier 3 units just for fun. Children gone or post game after a long time passes with no plot. Difficulty levels of starter/easy/normal/hard/lunatic and casual/classic. Less DLC and a better plot

>>384285121
I think Wada also does a good job. Her coloring is pretty.

>>384278621
All this

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>>384278445
>Simultaneous release of the same game on 3DS because I don't want to play FE on a non-mobile platform.
>A story with a decision tree that leads to multiple endings
>A player character that takes a lot less of a central role in the story
>More player appearance and class customization
>Gamefied romance
>Middle Eastern/West European/East Asian aesthetics all coming together in the forms of various factions, spanning from across all history
>Buttfuck hard maps that essentially require you to sacrifice units
>Anti-save scumming system (save the game every time you lose a unit for instance)
>more stats to differentiate units from each other like morality, etc.
Anything I'm missing?

>>384278445
Echoes didn't do nearly as well as Fates or Awakening, so the FE Switch game will have more waifus, romance options and poorly justified children mechanics.

>>384281602
>More of the stuff Fates/Awakening brought in
>Another 1000 year old mage/Chinese mytth dragon
Fates didn't bring that in.

>>384291169

>>Simultaneous release of the same game on 3DS because I don't want to play FE on a non-mobile platform.

I'm not sure if you realize this, but you can play Switch on the go.

>>384278445
>What are your hopes
DLC featuring the rest of the series
>and expectations
Friendship is awesome feat. Chrom and Marth.

>>384291221
Fates had Nyx, who is a woman of some years in the body of a small child.

>>384291169
>>Simultaneous release of the same game on 3DS because I don't want to buy a console for one game
fix'd

>>384291218
Echoes was bad and I'm glad it didn't do well.

>>384290992
Sorry but I think it just is, Japan in particular which is their core audience is clearly loving their cinematic approach and I think spites would be a turn off for them.

Echoes really did improve the animations for 3D models though so I have high hopes for the Switch game.

All I want is an FE game like RD again

>>384291403
oldLoli has been a series staple from the very first game unless I'm mistaken.

>>384291403
>Moving goal post

>>384291519
Tiki was a dragon, not a mage. Body type was also not originally mentioned.

>>384291258
How long is the battery life though, like 3 1/2, 4 hours?
Plus that thing is like tablet sized, not gonna fit in my pocket.

>>384291646
I guess if you be incredibly specific, then yeah you're right.

Also IIRC Tiki always acted like a loli.

>>384281840
You mean let fire emblem be dead again? Ain't happening nigguh. I'm the captain now.

I'm expecting a crossover between shadow dragon, awakening, and fates. I'm not going to get my hopes up for anything FE related anymore.

A game where characters play a part in mission objectives. Or just a game with side objectives period. Even if Conquest was a step up in objectives from Awakening, it still felt too straightforward and narrowminded in how you advance through the maps. It's a game you play through once and never really see much reason to replay.

>>384291406
This too. Don't want to buy a whole console for BoTW and FE.
Already made the same mistake last gen with the WiiU and Sm4sh

I'd like at least one stage where someone HAS to be offered up as a decoy. I haven't played much of the series in general, but I recall that it was in one of the prologue staages of Shadow Dragon.

>>384289765
>Interesting animations
SNES era?

>>384292252
I like how CQ did things, it had enough non-straightforward objectives (Ashura's map, keeping saizo alive, etc.) while also playing maps relatively straight - this worked because the difficulty was so perfect and shows that you can have relatively simple objectives but still have great maps

CQ had about as much replayability as other FEs for me. Unit balance is good enough that you can play on a higher difficult while still using a variety of units, see new paralogues, screw around with reclassing, etc.

>>384292607
>Forced death

Nope.

>>384283712

>half the characters are absolute shit with even worse availability

The only ones that were legitimately shit were the Dawn Brigade. Sure, there weren't many underpowered characters, but that's kind of been the point of Fire Emblem from the very beginning. It's not supposed to be a bunch juggernauts plowing through enemy forces without effort.

>story is a mess and is piggybacking off of PoR entirely

PoR has you going against Daein, I would hardly say it's entirely piggybacking on it considering your main enemy is Begnion (and for a little while Crimea when it was occupied by Luvdec). It's a sequel, so of course it's going to be related, but that doesn't imply it's entirely piggybacking off the previous game

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>>384278445
>Want
Hidari art
Dungeon crawling
Tolerable plot
More defend maps
More monster designs like the Faceless and the Terrors, enemy soldiers are always bland as fuck save for bosses.
Some sort of endgame/postgame treat, like Grima in the end of Echoes.
Something that is actually a god like Ashunera, not just some smug divine dragon that figured out humans are dumb as fuck and worship it.
>expect
Wide appeal title like Fates and Awakening to get them more funds so they can make a game they actually want to make.
Marriage/some form of in game shipping.
Heavily altered english release.
Lots of DLC.
Maps that vary heavily in quality (e.g. some great ones, some autobattle-tier ones).
Generic divine dragon antagonist.

Realistic: marriage, children, 1dimensional characters, pair up, my unit, my unit being integral to the plot, 2 version game with one being Awakening like and the other being like classic FE, infinite weapon durability, personal castle etc.

>>384293472
The Fates remake boxart used fanart.
It's likely not real.

>>384293158
>The only ones that were legitimately shit were the Dawn Brigade.
come on now, RD is my favorite but it had the worst unit balance in the series. DB was shit but there were equally shit units in other parts. The entirety of the Crimson Royal Knights were made up of fodder units (especially Astrid), multiple units in GKs also sucked (Lethe, Rolf, Mist), and non-royal Laguz were as shitty as ever.

>>384293250
>dungeon crawling
opinion discarded

>>384291406
Echoes was great. Zero appeal for the existing audience of the 3DS games but it had some great elements in it that were unique to it and made it feel at least somewhat different than the other ones (which were mostly pretty good too, save for Rev.). Good dungeon crawling too, brought a lot of life to it along with the talking stuff in towns and mid dungeon.
You can tell the game wasn't intended to be a huge seller, it was a passion project.
>>384293631
>doesn't like dungeon crawling
Opinion discarded.

>>384293543
I'm saying that they will remake it under a different setting.

Splliting game into 2 (3)worked out so well for them I don't see why they won't try it again

>>384293250
>Dungeon crawling
Please no that gets boring the second time you play.
>>384293686
The biggest problem with Echoes is that it is very boring the second time around.
Presentation only goes so far.

>>384293686
different =/= good

dungeon crawling is one of the worst additions and nobody with a working brain can possibly like it.

>shitty overworld controls
>same monster fights over and over
>literally the same map over and over
>incredibly easy to the point I feel bad for the monsters
>until you get gangbanged by 3 groups at once due to the shitty UI

>>384293803
I guess for you maybe, but I like going through them and I've replayed several dungeon crawlers without feeling bored of them.
I can't say any of the 3DS games don't lose luster on replays though.
>>384293962
>The controls are fine.
>Standard fare of JRPGs
>again, standard JRPG fare
>ditto
>ditto
I take it you're not a JRPG fan?

>>384294120
Fire Emblem is not a JRPG.

>>384293631

>The entirety of the Crimson Royal Knights were made up of fodder units (especially Astrid)

You mean Crimean. Geoffrey and Renning were great, so I wouldn't say the entirety was bad. I would even say Kieran wasn't too bad either with a little bit of babying. And honestly, I found Astrid more useful in this one than the first game. My PoR Astrid got her shit slapped half the time.

>>384278445
that heroes dies and never comes back

>>384294120
the controls fucking suck ass. Alm and celica move like trucks when sprinting. The worst part is the shitty minimap and sight range, you can see only 1 enemy, and when you go to fight it 3 fucking groups show up. This was fucking retarded on Thabes

I hate JRPGs and I like FE precisely because it doesn't contain typical JRPG mechanics. If you want forced random encounters with free, infinite grinding, FE is not the franchise for you.

Hopes
>at least as mechanically dense as RD
>bring back map animations
>if there has to be a MU make it like new mystery, supporting characters. Kris was fine beyond all the characters wanting to fuck them and everyone being like "oh we won all thanks to you". A side story they star in, and playing second fiddle to an actual lord, that's what works best, leave it there.
>follow echoes's direction on battle animations. No super special anime laser beam techniques, more short, pragmatic, brutal strikes.
>on that note, echoes's art direction was leagues ahead of anything post-RD. Follow suit.
>A nice, relatively straightforward story.
>don't let everyone support everyone. reign it in you fucking hacks.
>don't split the game up, but they've struck gold and they're sure not stopping the drill now so I know this is hopeless.
>good, fun challenge like conquest or the earlier games; miss me with awakening's lunatic+ grind checks


Expectations
>Mary sue MC Lord, retarded convoluted story
>babbie units in the game with an excuse that's less stupid than fates but still pretty stupid
>severa, owain and inigo 3: electric boogalee

>>384294418
>if there has to be a MU make it like new mystery,
Fuck no, play FE3 book 2 and FE12 at the same time and you will hate Kris.

>>384291169
I was tempted to break this down and explain why most of these are retarded but I'll just leave it at saying I'm glad you don't have any creative input over the game.

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Urushihara should do the art for FE Switch.

>>384294418
>No super special anime laser beam techniques,
?

>>384294563
This.

>>384294327
Renning sucked ass, he was typical "shitty prepromote in case all your units died tier"

Geoffrey was good but he fucks off for half the game

everybody else is fodder

Astrid was godawful. She has garbage growth rates that not even Paragon can fix, and there's no point in other archers when Shinon exists. In PoR she was significantly better

>>384291453
>Echoes really did improve the animations for 3D models though so I have high hopes for the Switch game.
The best thing Echoes did in that regard is not make the fight scenes take 20 seconds a piece.

>>384294563
I'm glad everyone in this thread doesn't have creative input over these games.

>>384294260
It has significant elements of JRPGs within most installments and Fates brought it closer than it had been more than ever before. It's not a bad thing.
>>384294395
That's the point of sprinting. You move faster but can't turn as well, and it's typically used to escape enemies. Limited sight is extremely common in dungeon crawlers as well, serving so that you can't just avoid everything.
Just because you hate JRPGs and can't handle anything from them doesn't mean it was bad. You're the same parrot from yesterday who threw a fit when some guy asked if any of the other games had DC in them.

>>384294530
I've never played anything before genealogy so I don't know what book two was like. I don't doubt Kris was grating to people who played book 2, but as a part of a story I hadn't played before I didn't mind them so much. Not nearly as bad as Robin or Corn

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Anna's return.

>>384278621
Switch is region free though so you can import to get around that shit.

>>384294395
FE has tons of typical JRPG mechanics though. Echoes is actually rather reminiscent of some Shining games, which are excellent.

>>384294840
Kris basically takes all of Marth and Jagen's spotlight moments in the game.

>>384293250
>so they can make a game they actually want to make

they just want to make money anon

fall into despair like the rest of us okay?

>>384294395
Way to miss the point of sprint entirely.
Every time Echoes is mentioned you screech at them and tell people they're retarded. Calm down son, some people like things you don't like.

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>>384294840
Play FE3 if you are a fan of the franchise.
Japan loves the game.
Plus it had the best look for the Archanea characters.

>>384294810
no other game in the series has JRPG mechanics. Why the fuck are you playing FE for JRPG mechanics?

>>384294924
It's also missing a ton of JRPG mechanics like snoozefest turn-based combat, random encounters, random drops, and grinding-encouraged progression system.

FE is its own thing. It's been its own thing for decades. Trying to add JRPG elements like dungeon crawling is stupid.

>>384278445
>hopes
HD por and rd
>expectations
awakening 3
>>384279551
I like Hidari's art, but I think whoever did Radiant Dawn should come back. Kozaki's looks rather ugly to me.

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I want Yamada to design all the male characters.

I want it to be as different from Fates as possible. None of that retarded nu-Weapon Triangle for starters.

>>384294943
That's pretty stupid then. Still though, I prefer that to Robin, who literally hijacks the plot from the actual lord, or basically anything related to the avatar in fates.

Maybe I just like the concept the most of the ones they've used. The MU is just an advisor, they don't hijack the plot and aren't the lord, but they get their own side story. I'd be all for a Mark-style MU or no MU at all but that's sure as shit not going to sell the game at awakening or fates's numbers.

>>384295068
it's called having shit taste

liking dungeon crawling makes you as bad as awakeningfags who play FE on casual mode like a fucking dating simulator

"wow calm down, some people like things you don't like, so what if I like VNs and want future FEs to be like VNs?"

>>384280861
>No VN bullshit
>No kids
>No class swap
>No world map
Why wouldn't you want any of this?

>>384278445
FE5 type maps
FE4 marriage, children, generations (aka no fucking time travel)
FE4 mature actually kind of okay story
Fates capture mechanic
FE5 steal mechanic
No avatar
No retarded gimmicks, just solid map design
Weapon durability comes back, but so does weapon repair
More staves that do things other than heal (warp, thief, etc)
Weapon weight comes back, a straight decrease to speed instead of a con system, 1as is enough to double
No my castle, maybe the thing from FE4
No online cheat bullshit
Better difficulty settings, actually make ene,y ai smarter instead of being bullet sponges

>>384295170
FE titles do new stuff in most titles, that's how they aren't stagnant pieces of shit now. Having dungeon crawling in one game is fine anon, take a breath and realize that the series is enjoyed by a lot of different people and a lot of those people are JRPG fans. It's not stupid to add dungeon crawling to the games, it's nice to have something new. I know you can't see it quality wise because you hate all JRPGs, but it's rather good for 3DS.

>>384294563
Lemme guess, the gamefied romance and player role in the story with customization?

I know it sounds like waifu shit, but I don't care.
Waifus are only crappy when they're just there purely for fanservice and fall into easily discernable categories.
Having the ability to romance actual characters that are actually a driving force in the plot is the goal.

>>384295582
Echoes dungeon crawling was garbage and you need to off yourself if you liked it

I can, however, tolerate dungeon crawling in future games if they significantly improve it

>be the shittiest, generic series in your genre
>fans sperg any time the games do something interesting
kek

>>384294572
don't distract him from doing episode 2 of another lady innocent or whatever the fuck it was called

>>384295537
>retarded comparison that has nothing to do with it
Sure thing buddy. Plenty of people would say you have shit taste for not liking the dungeon crawling, people hurl insults all the time and it means jack shit except for "I have an opinion about your opinion."
Dungeon crawling is actual gameplay and requires at least some brainpower to avoid enemies and lure them away, especially in areas like Thabes. Support logging is sitting there, pressing turnskip with a lone pair up unit, and clicking view afterwards.

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One thing that annoys me about GBA FE is the weapons.
It isn't hard to make different sprites for different weapons.
They did it 10 years before the GBA games were made, no excuse.

>>384295170
Fates had a ton of JRPG shit, did you conveniently forget My Castle?

>>384295957
>Dungeon crawling is actual gameplay and requires at least some brainpower to avoid enemies and lure them away
oh my god you can't actually believe this. 90% of dungeon encounters are so fucking easy it doesn't matter what the fuck you do. The remaining times you get gangbanged despite no other mobs in vision.

>support logging
why the fuck are you bringing this up, nobody's talking about support grinding

>>384291169
>le dark souls save system and difficulty ecks dee

>>384296009
GBA did have some different sprites for weapons

>>384295726
>k-kys
Grow up buddy.
If you're low on experience in the genre/gameplay style, why not just say "I didn't like it" and move on rather than trying to gauge its quality with a sweeping statement?

>>384282450
This game had some really weird unit availability/balance issues and made some bizarre decisions with its hard mode.

Also the plot is incredibly dull for most of the game. The character backstories and such are actually quite good, but the actual things happening lacked the heart and soul of PoR.

It's so close to being my favorite FE game, it does a lot of things really right but a few things stupidly wrong. Bexp is a really hard thing to balance around, I think is what it comes down to.

>>384280861
>No VN bullshit
>No kids
>No pair-up
Oh, so in other words, you want the series to die again?

>>384296308
Only the throwing axes.
Otherwise a silver axe looked identical to an Iron one in the hands of an enemy.

>>384278445
Non-FE Amiibo characters

Ideally I'd like marriage/child units to be dropped. Forcing every character to be marriable by the MU just means that other characters can't really have meaningful relationships with other characters and they all end up being one-dimensional. And having child units means that the story is forced to include some sort of time-travel or alternate dimension bullshit to make any sort of sense. If they must include marriage/child units then they should just have a time skip (like in FE4) or create a standalone sequel that utilises save data from the previous game (sort of like what FE9/10 did, but with a similar set-up to FE6/7).

At the very least I'd like to have a half-decent story with a somewhat likeable protagonist. But I imagine will get another special snowflake MU and a world that doesn't have any real history or nations.

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>>384282450
>Skill system of RD
Depends on what you meme.

>>384296206
That sounds less like an actual game issue and more of you being shit at the game. Bring an invoker at that point, given the parts where you'd get fucked are in later game areas.
And you brought up the support stuff with your comments of "FE as a dating sim" comparison.

>>384296347
if you're casual as fuck and want infinite grind, just say it and move on rather than trying to force your casualness on others

>>384296371
unit balance sucked but it's partially forgiveable because of its structure

yeah hard mode changes were pants-on-head retarded

>plot is dull
nigga I'll fight you. RD has my favorite plot out of any FE game. Despite some hiccups like blood contract, the overall story was grand and no other FE plot comes close to the scope of RD

>Difficulty of Conquest

Hah, I wish. Tellius-fags would cry themselves to sleep.

>>384296273
>WAAAH DIFFICULTY IS BAD
Don't worry anon, they can put in a "Just the story" mode for you too.
The saving death mechanic is to keep you honest.

>>384296637
And like I said, if you have little experience in the genre, your opinion on it being casual holds little weight and is more akin to spouting random buzzwords about things you know nothing about. Just say you didn't like it and let it go.

>>384278445
>hopes
a decent story , worldbuilding and character cast. enjoyed quite a few echoes characters so a bit of hope there
fewer but better written supports compared to awakening
echoes improved animations and hopefully this game does it even better
No avatar or kids
if it does have an avatar. hopefully avatar is robin tier but with a smaller role
no multiple versions , good but limited DLC

>expectations
sadly. mostly negative

not expecting much from it's story , worldbuilding and character cast if they follow fates as example
more avatar focus , as bad as corrin , supports with all and obviously kids thrown in there
expecting them to at least continue with the amount of DLC they have now. and they did say in an interview they were thinking about multiple versions for the future again. much to my dislike

>>384296503
The lords also had special animations for their legendary weapons. Except fatty lol

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>>384296637
>the overall story was grand and no other FE plot comes close to the scope of RD

This is why we can't have nice things, because Tellius morons have to shit up every thread jacking off the only game they've ever played.

How about the move the time period further along. Introduce Muskets and Cannons.

>>384296601
I have no idea what you're getting at.

>>384296637
>implying FE isn't casual as fuck outside of RD and CQ
Anon what the fuck are you doing

>>384295059
But I want to believe anon

>>384296967
Did you mean the way you change skills around because that was awful.
Or did you mean the way the skills were nerfed from JP PoR to JP RD?
Because that was justified.

>>384280861
Go back in time 10 years anon :)

So do I need to play Genealogy if i'm a huge Storyfag or not? Is it actually good or is it memes?

>>384296637
Most FE games are casual as fuck even without grinding except for a very small few of them.

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>>384294848
she'll find a way... as long as the game isn't set in valentia

>>384296637
Ya fucked it m8. SoV was only average but you're braindead if you think FE isn't casual in most installments outside of the obvious filter ones like RD.

>>384296883
If Fatty is Roy, which I know he is, then he did have different animations for using the Sealed Sword.

>>384296761
Resetting when you lose a character is literally fire emblem tradition. Having to replay a chapter and learn where you fucked up, or deciding to move on because you had a really good level otherwise and can't afford to retry, is the bread and butter of gitting gud at FE games. Trying to change that because you're a "hardcore gaymurr XD prepare to die" is pants on head retarded.

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>>384291169
>Buttfuck hard maps that essentially require you to sacrifice units

Doesn't really work with how FE is designed.

>Anti-save scumming system (save the game every time you lose a unit for instance)

Forced Iron-man on an RNG game is dumb, especially one like FE where unit composition and Exp is important is fucking dumb. It would fuck the game over into only the safest and most boring FOOS possible. Fuck, I bet you want fog of war back too, right? Just so the only viable strategy is the dullest.

Nothing is stopping you from playing Iron-man, letting everyone else pay the price of 30-40mins lost time to stop from losing a unit is more than fair.

>>384292252
Wot? Conquest has the most non linear map design next to the Binding Blade and Thracia.

>>384297218
As far as story goes, it and thracia are about the best the series has on offer.

>>384296637
>FE fans
>not casual
Anon I have some bad news

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>engine mostly like RD
>Bring back cool legendary weapons a la 4, 6
>Remove pair up, dual attack can stay
>Crusader scrolls or BEXP, albeit nerfed from RD, maybe 2 stats only/level

>>384297123
The original post basically asking for RD 2 wasn't mine but I assume he meant passing skills around. What's wrong with it?

>>384282450
>difficulty of CQ/RD
>The game should be as difficult as Conquest, one of the hardest games in the series, but also as hard as RD, one of the braindead easiest

Dumb Tellius poster

>>384297451
>it and thracia are about the best the series has on offer.
Isn't Tharcia one of the hardest games ever made?
I heard a long time ago that people on /v/ were talking about hard games and somewhere along the list Tharcia was there, don't know if t was just a meme or not.

>>384296637
Try playing some dungeon crawlers before dismissing them. Echoes has pretty average crawling, nothing special, but it's not bad. There are some really great ones out there and it'd be a shame to dismiss them all because of a misperception.

>>384297345

How was RD not the pinnacle of causal? Unless you played on Maniac difficulty you could save and reload mid battle as often as you wanted.

It was even more causal than PoR or 8

>>384297553
Neither are particularly hard as far as grid based strategy RPG games go, they just have some large bumps along the way, e.g. Elincia's castle siege, the takumi moses, etc.
they are hard by FE standards though

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>>384297613
Thracia isn't hard it is just frustrating.
It is basically the enemies bullshit vs your own bullshit.
Probably the prettiest looking Fire emblem game though.

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>>384297520

>>384290659
I honest to god don't get this post. You've got all the games generally considered the best in the series there. Is that supposed to be a gotcha?

>>384297613
No it's not. Thracia can be pretty cruel at times like if you escape with the lord before everyone else does but a lot of the difficulty comes from being blindsided by ambush reinforcements. You can break the game pretty hard too the second time around, warp is at its best in Thracia and Gaiden and the game loves to hand them out.

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PoR ARTIST PLEASE
NOT RADIANT DAWN, THOUGH

The faces in RD looked weird.

>>384293250
Dungeon crawling was terrible and not what FE is about. If you want to grind just play Awakening.

>>384297863
The difference is that in PoR the game can be beaten by a five year old. It's a very easy game.
RD has the battle saves you dislike so much but the maps are typically hard enough to prevent a terrible player from beating them just with battle saves or at least from suffering unit losses.

>>384297613
It can be cheesed with Arena abuse/Scroll abuse, but it is very hard on its own, and with the two, the final chapter is still hard.
I think the difficulty fits the theme because everything is stacked against Leif

>>384295574
>why not keep unecessary vn elements on a strategy game
>why not shoehorn children in a way that won't make sense since awakening

>>384298060
We just went over this anon, I don't care about your obsession with starting fights over how much you hate it in a gameplay style you know nothing about. Shoo.

>>384298148
Because the VN elements are literally the reason the franchise didn't end after awakening.

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>>384297909
She's so perfect. What a beautiful sheep.

>>384298060
It was fine and you don't decide what FE is about, the devs do.
Also who the fuck grinds in dungeons? If you want to grind there are much easier ways in SoV, the dungeon crawling isn't an issue, it's the general easiness of it.

>>384298148
So every piece of story and character interaction has to occur within the maps themselves with the units on the field?

Is it really "unnecessary" to flesh things out and fill in gaps in between?
Or would you rather simply have close to no story whatsoever?

>>384298069

It's impossible to ever lose a unit or map you don't want to with battle saves

>>384298206
ISIS doesn't known how to make dungeons. SoV to Paper Mario all have trash tier dungeons. If if you want to play Shining Force, play Shining Force. If you want to grind, play Awakening.

>>384298404
I don't think you understand what I meant.
You can reload for a chance at a crit or re-do of moves all you want, if you're a shit player you won't be able to beat the maps without losses regardless, no matter how much save scumming you do.

>>384297863
>he plays on the easy difficulties
laughing_subhumans.jpg

>>384278621
This.

>>384278445
Big game/story/chapter count. DLC. 50/50 for quality of story.

>>384298592
Well that's just an opinion I guess, I dunno what to tell you there. I don't really want to bother reigniting this argument, I liked it and thought it was well done and deserves to return, you hated it and think anyone who likes it should fuck off and die.
Do we really need to continue this?

>>384298774
i like the idea of this image but it looks like it was sloppily done in ms paint in like 5 minutes

more work was put into the sign than it was into her

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>>384297909
>>384298236
indeed

>>384296902
>heroes

fucking LMAO

I've played 8 FE games, suck my dick

>>384298019
Too many of the faces in PoR look like they were made in MS paint. Jill's face in particular is fucked.

>>384298774
>Brothel full of Annas
Yes please.

>>384298991
Jill is basically the only one that doesn't look worse making the hop from PoR > RD

Except for like, Sanaki maybe.

>>384299118
And Illyana.

>>384298819
>it's an opinion so I can sit on my high horse and eat shit all I want

that's the point retard. Its your opinion and your opinion is fucking garbage. You absolutely reek of reddit where everybody circlejerks over how valid all opinions are. Fuck off. You have shit taste

>>384299217
Ilyana just gets depressed.

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>>384298916

>>384298819
It's not an opinion if the dungeon layouts are objectively terrible. I would be fine with dungeon crawling if ISIS knew how to make one, but they don't and have proved this simple fact time and time again.

Want:
>gameplay on par with Conquest
>HD waifus

Expect:
>Birthright 2: The Awakening
>censorship

Casuals ruin everything.

>>384297357
Cheating as part of tradition isn't something to be proud of.
I understand wanting have the choice to learn from your mistakes or carry on regardless but if this game is trying to simulate war, you don't get second chances.

>>384297373
You can get it to work by having bosses that require you to throw lives at them to wear them down.

>>384297357
>>384297373
I just want difficulty added into the game that isn't just "oh these enemies have Silver weapons now instead of Iron"
Because that can be pretty boring. Permenant loss that forces you to move on and live with your decisions the first time adds flavour to the game alongside difficulty.

>>384299687
ironman has never, ever been the standard for FE or any game

please, just because you're autistic does not mean everybody else is

>>384299274
>random insults on repeat
You seem incredibly combative and angry today anon, why so upset? If you know so much about reddit then I guess you the expert on it, have fun with whatever you do on there.
>>384299523
>objectively
>is subjective
anon no

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>>384299687
This post reeks of autism.

>>384299523
I thought they were fine if not a mite bland for a dungeon crawler. Why is everyone so up in arms about it? Has anyone here even played a crawler? I mean it's not as good as a standard PnP one, but it was acceptable and reasonably enjoyable.

>>384300035
countless reasons for why Echoes dungeons sucked have been given to you, and you've swept it all under the rug of "well it's just an opinion."

you're absolutely retarded and beyond salvaging. I'd tell you to go back to whatever shithole you crawled out from, but I wouldn't even wish you on reddit

>>384299687
just play by ironman rules my dude
lmao no one wants this shit enough to make it the standard except for you

>>384278445
Hopes
>No MU
>Lance Lord
>No Hidari or Kozaki art (Hidari is good, but his style fits remakes more than new games)
>at least decent story
>Echoes-tier animations
>Good armor designs
>Radiant Dawn weapon triangle/trinity of magic
>No children, even if they have a good reason for it.
>Bring back the Rescue command (Shelter doesn't count)
>Echoes Support System
>Nerf Dual Guard. Instead of giving bonuses, it should give heavy penalties like Rescue did.
>Hidden Weapon debuffs only last 1 turn, and can't activate from a Dual Strike
>No Dragon Veins
>No stupid gimmicks like the Medicine Pots or Fuga's Wild Ride
>Dark Mages with actual clothing

Expectations
>Avatar Lord that stays Swordlocked until promotion
>Fates Weapon Triangle
>Generic Black and White story
>Main Villain is a dragon or summons a dragon
>No changes to Pair Up at all
>Babyrealm again
>Everyone can support each other
>Just like how Awakening Characters appeared in Fates, popular Fates characters will appear in FE:Switch
>Dark Mages still look like Tharja
>Kozaki is back. Or something similar to his style.
>return of Toilet Knight-tier armor
>The ride never ends

>>384300332
You haven't outlined any actual reasons.
The controls are responsive and work properly within the context of it, the battles are typical of it's genre, the complaints about layout have been nonspecific with no reasoning behind them.
You have provided no actual reasons why it is bad aside from you not liking FE having elements of another genre that you despise, and that is the very mark of an opinion.

>>384300221
Bottom of the barrel vita-tier.

>>384300332
Not him but it's pretty much been just you screeching like a madman at him with zero reasoning and him firing back "muh opinions" shit like it's a valid argument.
You're both fucking retarded, him for repeating himself over and over and you for being a thick skulled faggot. Jesus christ you two are the most braindead retards I've seen in an FE thread in months.

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>>384298951
>>384298236

>>384300593
this is my last (You)

come back when you stop ignoring the dozen replies already given. If I don't respond, you know you've failed

>>384300798
>zero reasoning
I also suggest you learn to read before posting on 4chan, or on the internet for that matter

>>384300712
I'd say it ranks around low-middle, I've played many worse ones and this one was at least decent in a few dungeons. It's the "Kirby game" of crawlers, mediocre but not bad.

>>384300997
Congratulations, you reached "I'm right and you're so wrong I'm not even going to reply so I win" tier. You belong more on a vbulletin forum my friend, have fun, I'm out.

>>384300997
You didn't. You're acting like some smug retarded faggot because you think you're the most qualified person in the fanbase while he acts like his shitty opinion actually matters on an anonymous Caribbean monkey skinning circle.

>>384301167
>>384300997
>>384301330
You're all faggots, shut the fuck up, nobody cares about your shitty dungeon crawling opinions.

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So ignoring the people arguing, what enemy drops the Astra in Echoes? I've been going through Thabes and I got the Sol from a pot and a Fiend dropped the Luna for me, so I'm pretty close.
Any ideas of what drops it and what I should prioritize on fighting?

>>384301505
Non-Eerie screech gargoyles I believe.

I don't like it when art styles change a lot, so I would prefer Kozaki. I don't think his art is that bad honestly
No MU preferably
Kids can stay, as long as it makes better sense for the story. For example I always thought an actual timeskip with the story would be really cool, like 15 years or something, and all the original units have aged and have slightly different designs.
Conquest difficulty
Blue Haired protag
A slightly different aesthetic, one I've always wanted was something a little more, steampunk? I don't know if that's the right kind, I'm thinking more like The Order 1886, but still pretty middle ages as it is now. A good balance between the two.
I've probably missed a lot that I actually want but I think that's most of what I really want.
Pls no bully

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>>384301261

>>384300997
>>384301167
Thanks for ruining an already bad thread
Also this>>384301416

>>384301582
>Steampunk
Stopped reading there.

>>384300440
What's wrong with having a MU/Avatar?

>>384301595
>Arm's

>>384301554
Thanks anon, I guess I'll be going around and hoping it comes with all the Deimos. Deathgoyles count too right?

>>384301668
That's okay anon, at least you read the first half.

>>384301736
I think it might be all Gargoyles, DeathGoyles and Garudas.
The eerie screech thing is for the ears.

>>384301582
>no bully
stopped reading there

>>384278445
>Hopes
Something good
>Expectations
Something bad with an HD coat of paint

>>384301505
>actually grinding in Echoes

what the fuck is the point

the entire game is piss-easy

bonus dungeon can also be beaten with 0 grind

at this point you're only grinding for the sake of grind

>>384301868
Ah, good, Deathgoyle hunting it is. Do Garuda have higher rates? I have only ever seen one and it was in the final floor battle as a summoned enemy, and I know summons don't drop stuff.

>>384302052
https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/miscellaneous/random-items/

>>384302018
I'm not grinding anon, I'm sorry my post pissed you off so much. I want to get the last legend weapon, that's all.

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>>384300593
They're bad. Visually they look pathetic, 3DS is shit sure but all of them are unappealing to the eye. Majority are just dark hallways with nothing to interactive with expect for some boxes to break. As we went over the controls are shit and feel like it come out during the N64 era. They actively make you not want to explore due to the camera. Battles are babby tier, large empty plains maps will always be bad since they require no strategy. Layouts are empty, linear corridors with some side paths that have treasure yet is usually just one weapon and that's it.

>>384302132
Ah, so they do. Thanks for the link anon, I'll use that.

>>384278445
What if it's integrated into FE Heroes through your Nintendo account, and you could maybe summon one of your units over to the new Switch game?

>>384302195
Alright, I can respect that, given your reasons. I still enjoyed them and disagree with you, but your reasoning why is logical as to why you didn't like them. I still wish for more of it though, an improved system of it would be even better.

>>384300945
Thanks, that's a cute image I haven't seen yet

>>384278445
A progression to a new timeframe would be nice. Besides an artstyle shift, nothing has changed over the course of thousands of years. It doesn't have to be modern fantasy or futuristic fantasy (as much as I'd like the latter) but show that time has passed or something.

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>>384302161
>FE used to be about multiple playthroughs on higher difficulties using different units, aiming for better ranks or lower turn counts
>now it's about killing the same enemies over and over again to acquire a <1% drop weapon

Echoes was a mistake

>>384294895
Importing only gets around two of those things

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>>384300945
>>384302603
just a few recent genny pics from pixiv

>>384302763
I've played through a lot of FEs and turtling has always been more of my thing, using different units hasn't been my thing, I play it pretty safe most of the time. Turn counts I barely look at if I ever replay the games at all, since I'm not one to redo a game I've already beat. The weapons are just a little optional thing at the end I wanted to do because I like doing so in other games with rare items, collecting stuff is my thing.
I'm sorry I've been playing the games wrong anon, pls forgive me.

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>>384302763
>FE used to be about multiple playthroughs using different units because anyone can die and seeing different character interactions based on who you'd use or who was still alive
>now it's about resetting on every death or just playing Casual Mode and grinding everybody's supports to max

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These guys were basically tailor made to be a class in a Fire Emblem game.

I don't want forced voice acting for every bit of text again

>>384303443
>even devs have stated that they reset on death
>but my autistic way of playing is the correct way

I want a well fleshed-out setting where every character has a sensible origin and reason to fight. I want a good story with political intrigue as a focus. I want good map design that doesn't rely on gimmicky mechanics being introduced and promptly forgotten. I want no world map and no grinding whatsoever. I want tight resource management, EXP, weapons, gold, etc.

I have perfect faith that the core gameplay is going to be fun. Even Awakening was fun to play the first time around. And even though I like weapon durability and would rather see it done even more harshly, I think Fates' approach is also fun in its own way (if a bit unbalanced).

>>384303443
>now it's about resetting on every death
That has been what most people did since the beginning, even in Japan

>>384303602
The way people tend to play a game shouldn't dictate the way they're designed, as they're video games by nature and should allow a variety of ways to play. Ironmanfags are fewer in number, but they still do exist and enjoy the series for that purpose.

>>384303775
>Ironmanfags are fewer in number, but they still do exist and enjoy the series for that purpose.
and they can ironman to their heart's content in any FE game

what are you even trying to say?

current FE already allows you to ironman. Designing FE around ironmanning is stupid because nobody does it

>>384303775
Then fucking ironman, you big baby. But don't force everyone else to ironman.

>>384303645
It's one of the less popular titles but one thing I loved about Sacred Stones was how virtually every character you recruited had a stake in the cast and played some role in the main story. The amount of filler characters could be counted on one hand, which is unheard of in the series.

Shame all their experimenting in that title went poorly. The highs in that game are so good but it's really dragged down where it does poorly.

>>384303775
>Ironmanfags are fewer in number
>adding non-ironman options means ironmanfags can't play the game
This is the great part of options, they are optional

>>384303443
>FE used to be difficult
>now it's just use your 12 turnwheel to turn back time, cheat death, and abuse RNG even on classic mode because ISIS know it's retarded fanbase play these games for their /co/-tier writing

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>>384278445
Literally take everything Echoes did (no kids, full voice acting) and make an original story + characters out of it
Do that and it'll be GOAT

>>384304067
turnwheel is legitimately a good mechanic tho

restarting 30mins worth of playtime because of bullshit RNG like 2% crit is just dumb

they just need to nerf the fuck out of turnwheel. Like 2-3 charges tops for long maps.

An even better solution is to bring back BEXP, and have turnwheel usage lower BEXP

>>384299779
A lot of things have been changing about FE lately, why not this?

>>384300162
(you) too thanks

>>384300392
I do already, but nothing is stopping me from breaking my word and playing normally again.
I've done it before when I lost 3 units in one turn and I wish there was at least a modifier you could activate when starting a new game to have Iron man mode.

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>>384304301
>phoenix mode is legitimately a good mechanic tho
>restarting 30mins worth of playtime because of bullshit RNG like 2% crit is just dumb
>they just need to nerf the fuck out of turnwheel. Like after 5 turns instead of one.
>An even better solution is to bring back BEXP, and have phoenix mode usage lower BEXP

>>384304301
The problem with the turnwheel is that it completely destroys risk mitigation. Players can experiment, see if some sloppy play works out and if it doesn't, rollback. I'm okay with it being a casual mode thing, but using it is not the same as resetting.

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>>384303878
>>384303918
>>384303965
O-Okay. I tried it with Conquest and it really didn't go well, so I'm kind of hoping the next main game won't quite be AS ballbusting to ironman blind.

>>384278445
>hopes
A game that has some love put into it rather than desperation, like Echoes. I didn't even think much of it but it was clear the devs really wanted to make it, and it showed.
>expect
Yet another title like Fates or Awakening designed to make loads of dosh off of shipfags and people in this thread.

>>384304828
phoenix mode is entirely different. It completely changes the way you play the game. Don't tell me getting a 1% crit on the final battle of Thabes dungeon is good design (which happened to me, ironically it was on Alm so I couldn't even turnwheel)

>>384304850
If you truly want the HARDCORE experience, go ironman

There are ironman players who'll call you casual as fuck for resetting instead of keeping with your mistakes

and now you're calling turnwheel players casual

do you see where this is going?

Limiting turnwheel charges will only mitigate risk, not destroy it. When you only have a few charges, you're still incentivised to plan everything out

>>384278445
Hopefully it kills FE so I can talk about an FE game I liked without people butting in and telling me to fuck off.
>oh hey I liked PoR
>fuck off easymode telliusbabby not even a real game if there's no challenge, kys
>RD was really good
>fuck off the story was shit, muh mary sue so special wah wah, read a book, the endgame made the entire game shit
>Well SS was ok
>do you even play games I could beat that game slapping my dick on the control pad get out of my thread
>Well I liked some parts of fates (CQ)
>conquestbabbies are so cancerous butting in enjoy that shitty story you faggot and go back to jerking it to takumi's wall
>Echoes was a nice little surprise
>are you kidding literal worst game ever bad everything hidaris art is shit va is shit you're shit fuck off
>Man this fanbase is shit
>are you kidding me go back to your reddit safespace if you want to talk about your shitty games instead of fling shit and take tumblr with you so you can circlejerk your pairingshit
Shit.

>>384305523
Wonder if she fucked all those priestesses.

>>384305523
That reminds me, among all this garbage I'd like to have a proper lore discussion.
Now, do you think Mila is still fertile and could produce more divine dragons if she didn't get screwed over?

>>384305569
are you kidding me go back to your reddit safespace if you want to talk about your shitty games instead of fling shit and take tumblr with you so you can circlejerk your pairingshit

>>384305884
goddammit

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>>384305363
>phoenix mode is entirely different. It completely changes the way you play the game.
Same as turnwheel. Hell same as battle saves. It completely kills the risk in battle since you can always turn back time if something doesn't go your way. The only way to fix this problem is to kill off the root. Either place it in casual mode so the casuals can have their fun, or keep it disabled on classic.

>>384305569
this happens with any series with a ton of games

if you can't handle it, you legitimately need to go back to r3ddit

>>384304812
Because this idea fucking sucks.

>>384279551

DOOT IS CUTE

>>384306071
>It completely kills the risk in battle since you can always turn back time if something doesn't go your way
like I said before, if you severely limit turnwheel uses, this won't happen

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>>384305523
>>384305738
Mila 's girls live to serve. and a dragon needs to have her nights

>>384305763
i think so. She might have a harder time but it could work. if adult tiki can. Why not Mila?

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>>384306308
Even 1 per chapter could change the way you play.

>>384306118
thanks for proving me right in that you don't want discussion

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>>384291169
>same game on 3DS because I don't want to play FE on a non-mobile platform
anon....

>>384306671
yes it makes it more forgiving of RNG and mistakes, but without making it rage-inducing when you waste 30mins due to a 2% crit

>>384306732
shitting on other people's opinions, as long as you have valid arguments, is discussion

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>>384306671
>Lukas attacked Archanist
>meaning it was the player's turn
>the player willingly sent Lukas to fight an enemy that the forecast plainly states will kill him in retaliation
Anon, you can have a point but you don't have to resort to using a retard's gameplay to prove it.

>>384307032
Which isn't present in 95% of FE threads and their content. The "civil discussion is for reddit" meme needs to fucking die, you can have both angry "I'm right you're wrong"s coexist with proper discussion that isn't just garbage and saying why everything you purport to be a fan of is shit.

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>>384307032
It gets pretty tiresome when that's almost all the discussion there is.

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>>384307032
aka casual. You can play as sloppy as you want since you have a free save state

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>>384307320
>>384307453
you guys are retarded. rage-filled hate is expected. it's common practice to call the other guy retarded while also giving valid arguments

Echoes is a shitty game with the worst maps in the series and a shitty, forgettable plot. If you liked echoes, you need to kill yourself

see?

>>384307697
You didn't even read my reply.
I said you can have both mindless screaming and shitting like you just posted, but you can have civility and discussion without that mixed in. All you want is shit.

>>384307697
Ditto on the other guy. I said it gets tiresome when that's all you get, repeated over and over.
The thing you posted is the same stale fucking shit that's been talked about 50 fucking times in this single thread you retard. Say something worth replying to for once in your life.

>>384305103
Smelly whore.