Why Dark Souls 3 was so soulless? Felt like no one in the development

>>384249661
Brace yourself for the coming mewling of DaS3 fags.

>>384249661
i'm at nameless king
the first phase is so bad , he makes me leave the game.
you right boss are boring and ahve the same mooves. the only good one is the soul cinder (without dlc).

It's contract mandated trash, same as 2.
I can't imagine why people would actually want a bloodborne 2 after how the other two direct souls sequels turned out.

>>384250758
But dark souls 2 was decent game

>>384250613
Are you retarded?
Use Lightning against Dragons.
(the answer is yes)

>>384249661
>Yes
>Bosses are great and one of the few things it does right
>level design is also very good
>what did you expect? I think there is enough variations
>shit gameplay no; insane stamina regen yes
>maybe I don't know
>what

>>384249661
>Bosses were garbage because for some reason they decided to recycle duel fights like false king and arthorias 30 times. And don't even start with "it's because gameplay is faster", bloodborne gameplay was even faster and 90% of bosses felt very differently from each other
Trying too hard, most likely a DaS 2 liking subhuman. Bosses and OST are literally the only thing DaS 3 does right, yet retards still try and bash them just to make DaS 3 seem like it has absolutely no redeemable qualities like the shit heap that is 2.

>>384252690
>ALL BOSSES SHOULD BE LIKE ARTHORIAS
Literally cancer of the series
I have news for you, the only reason people liked duel bosses was because how different from others and rare they were
>OST
The only good tracks were literally recycled from the first game
Really makes you think, huh

>>384251425

Here's your (you), now stop baiting

>>384250758

Bloodborne 2 would inevitably turn into DS3 with tentacles and werewolves.

>>384252886

>all good tracks were recycled from DS1

>Soul of cinder, second half
>Aldrich, mash up of two songs from the first game
>two 'recycled' tracks
>In a game about cycles

Great opinion buddy :,)

>>384249661
still better than DaS2

>OST

legitimately the only boss OST I liked in the games so far was the maiden astrea fight. albeit I haven't played bloodborne yet

>>384253054
It was a good game tho

>>384253947
I liked it. but definitely the weakest entry. the first DaS3 DLC reminds me of it with it's lack of pacing in the final area, but with infinitely better level design.

>>384253054

Is he wrong? It's the worst in the series but it's not an awful dogshit irrideemable game the hive mind would have you believe.

>>384249661
DS2 had more interesting ideas

I liked the hollowing, tbqh.
also bonfire ascetics
not having your estus refilled upon killing enemies
the dark enemies that broke through the mirrors was fucking awesome

theres more i just cant think right now

DS2 definitely had more life in it

>>384249661
>MUH SOULLESS
>MUH GENERIC COMPLAINT BE CAUSE IMA SHITTA WHO CANT INTO BASIC CRITIQUE

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>>384252886
>The only good tracks were literally recycled from the first game
Here's your (You)

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Because they were on a contract and needed to make 2 more games when they never had any plans for more after 1. So they turned it into a tribute to all the souls games and made it an All Stars of everything people loved from previous games.

Its funny because the games theme of weakening cycles fits well with the tedious rehashing cycle of the series development

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>>384253541
nope

So far (personally) DeS > DaS1 = DaS3 > DaS2 SotFS. all played on PC except DeS (duh)

where does BB rank?
>>384254417
DaS2 had horrid level design

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>>384254417
>falling for the 2>3 meme

>>384254417
why did you switch lothric and drangleic around?

>>384249661
>bosses were garbage because they were fun and cool artorias style duel fights rather than boring as shit "find the pattern" "hit the weakspot" giant monster fights

DaS3 has the best boss lineup in the series

>>384254409
>>384250758
>It sucks because they had to make it

What a dumb excuse

>>384254636
>>artorias style duel fights
>not "find the pattern" "hit the weakspot" fights

>>384255051
Somewhat, but not as much as lumbering beast memefights

I can't think of a single giant fight in any video game that wasn't utter shit

>>384255184
tower knight?

>>384255307
>kill the archers, hit the weakspot to expose the main weakspot, hit that

It barely qualifies as a boss as much as it's an easy puzzle

>>384255184
Bloodletting beast?

>>384255416
come on now it was pretty impressive when you first engage it

>>384255420
Not a giant

>>384255495
For ten seconds until you realise

>>384255589
>bloodletting beast
>not a giant
what?

>>384255815
I think I mixed it up with blood-starved beast.

I never did the chalice dungeons

>they literally downgraded half of the weapon types from DaS2, e.g. the whips, lances, etc.
>only weapons worth using are straight swords and jabbies
>powerstancing with two of the same weapon is no longer a thing and we're back to DaS1 style dual wielding + a select few weapons in DaS3 that are made for dual wielding
>every other enemy has retardedly fast attacks that are literally not telegraphed and not dodgeable
>every other enemy feels like you're fighting a miniboss just to progress, they'll chop off half of your hp if you slip up once, take forever to fight and are extremely tedious and boring to fight
I literally enjoyed DaS2 more than DaS3. DaS3's weapons and movesets are fucking boring and the enemy design is zzzzzz. DeS, DaS1 and DaS2 involved a lot less waiting around for the untelegraphed 6-part combo of the standard enemy that will kill you in 2 hits of said combo to end. They had a lot more trash mobs and shit you can run past easily (which is fine and makes the game flow better on your way back to the fog gate). DaS3 fanboys need to check themselves.

t. have played DeS, DaS1, DaS2, DaS3, haven't played Bloodborne

>>384254417
This is my main gripe with 3. Its just way too linear. I don't know why they didn't go back to the interconnected world of DaS. Even BB did this better than 3.

>>384256103
DaS2 is more tedious AND has worse movesets desu

>>384249661
>can't parry for shit with a medium shield because it's slower to pull off than a caestus
why?

>>384250481
>fat rolls
>wonders why he's being hit by the blast
durr hurr durr

>>384256232
Have you tried the whips in DaS3 at all.

>>384256498
have you tried the greatswords in DaS2 at all

>>384256647
Yes and they were fine.

>>384256869
lol.

>>384253665
Literally can't remember a single track across any of the games.

>>384257030
Bloodborne soundtrack is GOAT

>>384256647
>>384256989
I've beaten DaS2 multiple times with different builds and keep gravitating back to UGS/Zwei with pyro kicker. There's nothing wrong with them, they're great

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DS2fags WILL defend this

>>384256647
DS2 greatsword is GOAT. It's probably the same in the other games but I could land a heavy downwards strike, stagger my opponent, turn my back on them and strike them upwards over my shoulder all day long.

>>384257312
>play DaS1
>find the Zwei
>HOLY SHIT YOU GOOK SHIT THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME JUST FUCK SHIT WOW THE FUCKING WEIGHT SHIT JUST LOOK HOW HARD I BLOWN THAT PUNY MONSTER THE FUCK OUT OH FUCK I AM CUMMING THIS IS LITERAL PERFECTION
vs
>play das2
>find Zwei
>excite.jpeg
>acts and feels like a weightless dildo

lol. the dildo was fun in saints row, but this dark souls kiddo

>>384253665
Exact same with me. Have played all except Bloodborne and the only theme I remember is Maiden Astraea's.

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I dunno, I ended up liking DS3 more than bloodborne.
Mainly because of the restrictions they put on PvP, and being able to find ways around those restrictions as well.

Like if you really want to be a dick, you can just get to ng+ at a relatively low level, summon a npc, and watch them fucking destroy invaders

>>384254534
>twin peaks faggot
>shit taste
can't make it up, kek

>>384257327
Can't defend it at all but I think there's enough detail overall to counter lonely rooms and corridors (of which there aren't that many, noticeable though the may be).

>>384257030
Nexus and flamelurker themes were great
Firelink shrine, sig, moonlight butterfly and Gwyn from the das
Das2 main theme was thanks to the des main theme undertones, also Old Dragonslayer, mirror knight and Nashandra themese
All tracks in the borne were god tier, but I loved hunter dream soundrack that starts after you kill rom and red moon rises, also ludwig
Can think anything good from the 3

DaS3 is a good pve game, but a terrible pvp/multiplayer game. Only fault the pve have it is the linearity and lack of good maps theme. Way too many fucking castles and swamps

>>384256121
My main gripe the ds3 is that mob enemies are way too powerful. They hit faster and harder than previous games and 90 percent of the time I found it way more beneficial to just run past them

>>384258387
just use friede great scythe, farron greatsword or those dual UGS' you get in the DLC

mite suck for some enemies but you can just switch to a katana or w/e, plenty upgrade stuff to get more than a weapon to +5/10

>>384257191
The only tracks I can recall are gas coin and ludwig. BB's ost really is the best

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>>384258387
This was kind of a problem.
>Get inside Lothric Castle
>Suddenly the same enemies you fight at the wall of lothric just start shitting out damage
>>384258103
Yeah for sure.
The only way you're going to enjoy PvP though is keeping everything low level. That way you don't run into the full Havel's Katana faggots

>>384258807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKk6XqcmB4Q
Not even this?

>>384258387
I found it odd that id get more than half my life cleaved by a random grunt but I just attributed that to using the fallen knight set the whole game.

>>384258963
Id probably remember more if I got a chance to play through the game a second time, though the fact that I remember more BB songs than any other souls games despite multiple playthroughs of all of them is a testament to how good its ost is

Shit thread everyday

>>384250758
Cuz it would be under sony, and unlike bandai namco sony isnt known for rushing out games

>>384258859
>That way you don't run into the full Havel's Katana faggots

respecing to full havel + katana is the only way I could beat gael. was not aware it was a pvp meme build. fuck pvp by the way, in every game. and fuck DaS2 (I liked it but it's the worst)

>>384249661
>I actually liked how the different covenants actually effected gameplay in DaS3
>I quite enjoyed most of the bosses, except for the obvious garbage like Pontiff Sulyvahn. Also Bb had an equal amount of good and garbage bosses imo. I fucking hated Rom. That was the cheapiest, shittiest fight I've ever had in a souls game.
>You're right on this point.
>Agreed.
>So just use the highest damage dps spell?
>All of the NPCs were garbage except for Anri. Wish they all had plots similar to her/him.

>Felt like no one in the development team cared about game at all
Probably because they didn't care, the game was just made to make money, there was no passion involved.

>>384258859
Man i don't even mind the cancer meta, but the rolling, the fucking op as fuck rolling just ruined the whole mode for me. I can understand why they did for pve since monsters are much faster and agressive, but it just broke pvp so hard. Literally impossible to punish good katana players or pyro spammers

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>>384249661
These are all good games. But I agree that DS2 DLC / Sotfs is Shit

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>>384249661
>Felt like no one in the development team cared about game at all

We're talking about 2

>>384260326
but the DLC is the best part of DaS2. also introduced the best armor in the series

>>384260574
Great argument!
As expected from the buttdevastated das3fag who always brings das2 into discussion
Das2 was full of neat shit, you actually need to be retarded to say "no one in the development team cared about game at all" about das2

>>384260574
Oh no! Muh graphics in a 360 game don't look so nice! How will we ever recover?

>>384260574
I don't know about release, but Scholar on the ps4 has much better textures.

>>384257907
>Can think anything good from the 3
My favorite track is definitely the one that plays once you give the Fire Keeper her eyes.

I think Dark Souls 2 is actually the weakest game in the series, but I keep coming back to it. I finally figured out why. It's the worst game, but it's also the easiest to cheese once you know the mechanics. That makes replaying it less stressful because you can just grab the OP shit really fast and faceroll the rest of the game. Take strike damage for example. Most slashing weapons technically have a higher AR, but there probably less than five enemies in the game that actually have any strike defense at all. This leads to the club and mace having some of the best DPS in the game just because nothing resists that type of damage. Couple this with the unbelievably shitty durability system and you're forced to use the highest damage weapons in the game because all your other shit will break halfway between bonfires. The playstyles are limited this way, but the actually viable builds are ridiculously powerful.

>>384261989
It felt kinda, like something I heard hundreds times already

>>384260648
>Velstadt retread
>DeS gank squads retread
>Smelter Demon retread
>the King's Pet retread
>Kalameet retread

>level design sucks.There are many lifts/elevators that it's basically like going to Disneyland. To top it off, There's nothing in the environment nor anybody around to make any of this mean anything. The enemies don't fit with the theme of the levels, and the levels barely have a theme... it's a just a castle and/or prison with some soldiers in it. The only good one is the Alonne's Theme

DLCs have better design but overall team B-itch went lazy way.

>>384264538
still better than the main game

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>>384260817
We're talking about shit

>>384264837
Yes, exactly
I don't udnerstand why you keep posting das2 images, this thread is clearly about das3

>>384260574
Let's whip out the torch for comparison:
DaS2
>Your torch lights up the area and casts shadows
>Light your torch at the bonfire, on sconces you've lit or with flame butterflies
>If you put it away or roll in water it extinguishes
>You can light sconces or other things which sometimes results in a secret being revealed
>You can set enemies on fire which ticks for damage for a few instances
>Pulling out your torch (or pyromancy flame) while drenched in oil will explode you
>Certain enemies will back away if you have a torch out
>An NPC will react to your torch and become hostile towards you if you light it around him
>Set pools of oil on fire in Black Gulch
>Useful in areas with water that can hide deep pits
>Not too useful in dark areas because downgrade

DaS3
>Your torch lights up the area but doesn't cast shadows
>Your torch is a weapon and lights up when you pull it out and goes out when you stick it on your back
>If you pull it out it instantly removes maggots
>You can't set anything on fire with the torch
>Fire damage in general causes certain enemies to convulse in pain however enemies must return to their default state to reapply the effect, otherwise it won't do anything which can result in an enemy recovering and attacking between torch swings
>No interaction with any of the enemies that react to fire damage
>No interaction with wax like causing it to melt quickly
>No interaction with any NPCs
>There is no shallow water hiding pitfalls in this game because outside of one small area in crucifixion woods you will mostly be wading through swamps as opposed to water
>Not really useful at all because there is one moderately dark room in this game and maybe one more in the AoA DLC

>>384264538
>Kalameet retread
Sometimes I wonder, do people who post shit like this even played game?
Sinh was nothing like Kalameet, they even have opposite safe zones

>>384264538
Yeah I really loved DS2's level design...

My favorite part was the elevator at the top of a windmill that went UP into a volcano.

DS2's level design was awful.

Nioh >>>>> (BB, DeS and DaS1 in any order) >> DaS3 > DaS2

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>>384265071
>even played game?

>>384265401
So you didn't

>>384265401
sinh was fucking easy compared to kalameet. or maybe I just got better idk

>>384265542
>Kalameet
>not the easiest dragon in the series
Is it a joke?
The only moderately hard part was butchering his tail

>>384265685
only das1 boss I had trouble with.

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>>384264538
Git Gud

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>>384264538
>Git Gud

>>384265832
where is this, I don't remember it

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>>384265151
>DS2's level design was awful.

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Is the das3 DLC wroth getting? I haven't played it a few a months and I've been meaning to do a second run.

>>384266420
it's alright. has DaS2 tier shit pacing with strong enemies fucking everywhere but usually the runs aren't very long, the general level design is pretty alright and it has some damn fucking beautiful areas. and the bosses are great. there's also a boss reminiscent of old monk from DeS

>>384266420
Generally agreed to be the worst thing FROM ever made
Think about it

>>384266420
Ashes was mediocre besides the last boss, but Ringed city is right up there with Artorias of the Abyss

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>>384249661
Dark Souls 2 is shit butthurt poster.

>>384249661
>was going to comment on each point
>sees last point

Here's your (you)

>>384268035
Or because you couldn't comment on each point
Because last one is true

>>384265832
This is some bullshit.

>>384249661
>All covenants were poorly designed shit
Elaborate
>Bosses were garbage because for some reason they decided to recycle duel fights like false king and arthorias 30 times. And don't even start with "it's because gameplay is faster", bloodborne gameplay was even faster and 90% of bosses felt very differently from each other
DaS3 has the best bosses of the trilogy. What are you on about?
>Poorly designed levels you don't want to go second time through
Once again, elaborate.
>Boring humanoid enemies with long weapons everywhere
Like most of the games? You want a bunch of dogs with knives or something?
>Shit tier gameplay thanks to the insane stamina regen and fast as fuck estus
Slow animation and no stamina is what makes good gameplay?
>Terrible magic system thanks to the return of mp, literally no reason to not always use highest dps spell, in comprassion in the des it was better to always keep different attacking spells
Try not abusing the meta?
>Worst npc in the gaming history aka firekeeper
The Herald was pretty bland.