>has the best dungeons in the series >is the most hated

Most of the dungeons blow though, you're thinking of the bosses.

>>384242167
Best dungeons, but shit bosses and padding out the ass for the rest of the game.

Do you really care so much about other people's bad taste?

Personal preference varies OP.

>>384242223
Spotted the Twilight Princess faggot.

>>384242223
>>384242225
wtf, stop having different opinions

>>384242167
Loved the combat in this game but world and level design was NOT memorable at all.

>>384242167
Best dungeons were Zelda 1 and 2

No stupid puzzles, just endurance tests of you fighting onslaughts of monsters.

>>384242290
If you're making such an assumption, then you're basically admitting the game has better dungeons, or at least that most people think so and you're instead some contrarian faggot.
Your taste is equally as shit for not liking SS's bosses, so I could call you a pleb too.

But TP has the best dungeons out of the 3D games.

>>384242393
We've had multiple threads where /v/ admits that the dungeons in Skyward Sword are excellent. The bosses are what is trash.

>Monsters inc trash
>A scorpion
>Ghirahim 3 times
>The imprisoned 3 times

The only good boss is Koloktos.

>>384242441
maybe if you have shit taste

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>>384242349
>No stupid puzzles

>>384242515
Apart from that tentaclefag, the bosses are actually good though. Dungeon bosses I mean, The Imprisoned is total trash every time, I will admit. Not sure what's wrong with the scorpion boss, thought it was great.

>>384242167
this had 6 hours of music but I can't remember a single song. huh.

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>>384242167
Doesn't matter how good the design of the game is if it's unplayable due to controls.

I fucking forced myself through the game and didn't enjoy it due to the fucking wiimotes.

>>384242441
Not since based Mark Brown destroyed Twilight Princess cucks with his boss keys videos.

>>384242636
Wanna know the scary thing?

Every boss that isn't Imprisoned or Ghirahim in Skyward Sword is HIT THE EYEBALL aside from the robot.

>>384242441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTsgWepH3GY

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Objective truth.

Never played Breath of The Wild so I can't comment on that yet.

No 2D Zeldas listed.

>>384242702
>unplayable due to controls.
Get fucking good

>>384242967
Breath of the Wild doesn't really have 'dungeons', the four divine beasts are pretty cool but their more than just the inside layout.

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>>384242167
Actually would have loved this game if they gave the option to play it with a real controller

Went through a dozen charges on batteries and had too much frustration from the sensor / dildo remote not performing right

>>384242993
Sensors of the wii remote were a piece of shit. Had to calibrate every 2 minutes and it would randomly disconnect.

Nothing "getting good" could fix. It's just straight up annoying and made the game a piece of shit.

>>384243056
*they're
Fuck

>>384242967
By the way, before people sperg out. Skyward Sword having great dungeons does not mean it's a great game. The game is shit in many many areas, but dungeons aren't one of them. They're one of the few things the game nailed.

>>384242828
wasn't the robot 'hit the eyeballs on the hands, then bomb the mouth' for the third game in a row?

>>384242167
Doesn't matter if a couple dungeons are good if the rest of the game is a fucking travesty.

>>384243092
>Had to calibrate every 2 minutes
Now you are lying to the point of absurdity

>>384243217
It's a good thing the rest of the game isn't a fucking travesty then

>>384243234
Every time you aimed the controls went off a little bit. how much you'd tolerate depends on you. I personally get frustrated if it was a little bit off so I had to calibrate every time after aiming somewhere in FPS mode.

>>384242167
this isnt LA or MC

>>384243279
Imagine having this much of a shit taste that you pretend a game even the creator admitted isn't fun isn't a travesty.

>>384242167
I got too bored to continue before I got into the first dungeon.
I have not had that problem with any other game, yet alone LoZ.
completed ALTTP, ALBTW, OoS, TP, MM, WW, TP and BOTW.

>>384242896
kek

>>384242167
Oh boy do I love fighting the Imprisoned the same time every time. What a fun game!!

>>384243351
You mean the game that was well received critically and commercially? Oh no, the /v/ hivemind has spoken and everyone but you is wrong. It's also telling how wrong everyone else is when you have to lie.

>>384242967
I never cared for the dungeons in any zelda. WW had the most compelling overworld for me.

>>384243409
The intro in Skyward Sword is ridiculously long.
I mentioned this in the other SS thread but other people didn't seem to think so. I definitely found that it overstayed its welcome though.
The Dungeons really are great though.

>>384242167
Skyward Sword did have the best du-
>Master, in order to solve this puzzle do this
Welp.

>>384242896
always knew lakebed was the best dungeon in TP

What's wrong with Skyward Sword? Aside from the abortion of an overworld (excluding the Loft or whatever it's called, which was cute).

The fanbase wants bullshit open worlds with nothing in them a la Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild.

The fanbase is full of retards.

>>384243591
Motion control is too hard for a lot of people on /v/

>>384242167
absolute chore of a game. had potential to be good

>>384242896
>Never heard of this guy
>Checking his videos now
>His thoughts mirror my own
>He isn't petty enough to shit on the one thing Skyward Sword did excellently (the dungeons) and instead praises the fuck out of it

Wow, I like this fucker.

>>384243615
Well fuck 'em then. Anything else?

>>384243608
Is the "fanbase" a voice in your head? Citation/source or fuck off.

>>384243234
wii-mote controls sucked cock, I don't know how you could dispute this. They were such a hassle to play with and made the games less fun to people who prefer controllers

>SS defense force now exist
Amazing. Can't wait until you contrarian autists gonna start defending CD-I games next.

>>384243725
>hassle
no
>less fun for idiots
well too bad
>>384243761
For all their flaws, they had a huge influence over the popular culture of the internet. Probably moreso than any other game.

>>384243640
his videos in general are pretty good, looks like he knows what he's talking abount

>>384242732
B0ss key was the shit. I'm eagerly awaiting him shitting on BotW.

>>384242167
Dungeons are fun, but linear. Unfortunately the combat was boring as shit because there was zero enemy variety. TP didn't have particularly deep combat, but at least all those completely unnecessary sword techniques looked cool. SS didn't even get that right.

>>384243761
Fuck off you pitiful child. You can talk about a games positives while still recognizing its flaws.

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>>384243452
http://nintendotoday.com/aonuma-on-hand-holding-in-games/
>“I think that one thing all game developers worry about when they’re putting something into a game is, ‘Will people notice it? Will people realize what they’re supposed to do?’ And we kind of have a bad habit of hand-holding, trying to make things easier for everyone. But more and more, I start to think that that kind of isn’t actually that fun.”
Not only did Aonuma admit that Skyward Sword's style of hand holding and no exploration wasn't fun,
>well received critically
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/16/aonuma-said-that-changes-in-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-were-made-based-on-negative-skyward-sword-feedback/
The game was panned so hard that the creator actually heard it.

You Zelda cycle contrarian retards who start pretending that the last game was suddenly good have literally no leg to stand on this time. The creator has denounced it

>>384242167
Sandship and Sky Keep are great, but the first two dungeons are worst in the series.

Majora's Mask has the best dungeons out of the 3D titles.

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>>384243850
>SS
>positives

>>384243826
He'd probably like the dungeons in BOTW since they require some spatial awareness and he likes dungeons like that.

>>384243872
Death of the author means we have to kill him for this treason.

>>384243920
>I'm going to go on /v/ and be an epic troll by saying mornic shit haha
Kill yourself you waste of air.

>>384243761
No, next they will be defending BotW after the new Zelda comes out.

>>384244014
But everyone loves BotW

>>384243826
Literally won't happen. Mark Brown is a level design fag and the Divine Beasts all have amazing level design.

>>384243872
>aonuma
He's not the director of SS anon

>>384244010
>calling SS shit
>troll
So facts are trolling now? You are sad, man.

>>384244192
No, but he's the person who dictates the direction of the series. He's the series producer and manager of Zelda.

>>384243826
botw didn't have dungeons.

>>384242732
He said the dungeons in TP were good, retard. Nothing exceptional, just good.

>>384243691
Just look at how many Zelda "fans" talk shit about Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword (the best Zelda games since Ocarina of Time) and compare it to the dicksucking they give Wind Waker (the most overrated Zelda game ever made) and Breath of the Wild (an embarrassment to the franchise that appeals to degenerate brainless manchildren and nobod else).

It's the same thing with Super Mario Odyssey. That game is pure dogshit, it has no level design whatsoever to speak of (wouldn't you know it, just like Breath of the Wild) and yet those faggot Nintendo-fanboy sheep are slobbering over it like it's the savior of platform games and not a cheap Banjo-Kazooie collectathon ripoff piece of shit (this mind you, in a year with Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces).

Only the most brainless imbeciles are Nintendo fans anymore and those people have absolutely no taste whatsoever. And Nintendo's gonna' cater to them and them only because nobody in their right mind would buy Nintendo systems or Nintendo games anymore.

Nintendo will never be good again. But the fans will never admit that. They're going to keep making every ninty franchise degenerate into irrelevancy.

Sucks famalam.

>>384242167
>best dungeons
lolno. "Go left to unlock right door then right to unlock front door" isn't my idea of good dungeon design. It follows the exact same cancerous bullshit of TWW and TP while further simplifying it. The first couple of dungeons don't even have multiple floors. The only positive thing I can say of SS's dungeons are the timeshift stones, but even those were exclusively used in a bunch of shitty one-room puzzles instead of to their full potential.

>>384244246
>No
So the creator of SS likes his game, I'm sorry you needed to lie to almost have a point.

lol who cares about dungeons thats fucking gay

>>384243801
>less fun for idiots
>well too bad

I know what they were going for is "swing your wiimote like it's a sword!" but what we got instead was "flail your hands and wrists in unnatural positions to try and get the correct swing ingame!". The attempt was admirable but the result of the way you had to play skyward sword was half-baked and tedious at times, it just didn't hit the mark with what they were going for because of technological limitations

>>384243591
>>384243608
>>384243615
>>384244010
>apologists every time a new title is released
>but surely that won't happen with SS
why? who are you guys trying to impress?

>>384244309
Oh fuck it's ACfag

>>384244225
Nothing you said is a fact. The only fact here is that you're an autist that needs to kill himself.

>>384244309
Is this a new pasta? Haven't seen this one before.

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>>384244348
Okay, you pulled my leg. But the director shared the same thoughts as Aonuma so it doesn't matter.

>>384244309
ss and ww are garbage tho

>>384244424
It did work though. You had to use it with wiimotion+ right?
>>384244435
I know it's hard for you to understand but some people don't make every post fishing for (You)s.

>>384244498
It's ACfag

>>384244521
>Fujibayashi wanted to break conventions
>this means he hates SS
Huh

>>384242167
Beacuse everything else sucks.

>>384244601
>what Eiji Aonuma had been thinking, along with myself.
You need to be literate in order to post here.

>>384242896
>A youtuber who analyzes games without obnoxious acting and stutter-cursing
Why must this be so rare?

>>384244660
I'm sorry my ESL friend but nowhere does he say he dislikes SS. Feigning stupidity won't help.

>>384244554
the only alternative is that you're a total moron. so yeah I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is bait. nintendo's motion controls are garbage

>>384244727
>Aonuma doesn't think SS is fun
>Fujibayashi shares the same thoughts as Aonuma
Put two and two together.
Sorry you're so retarded you need things explicitly stated for you.

Can we all at least agree that while SS isn't absolute trash like some people say it is it still is the worst Zelda game? I'd say it's a solid 7.5/10 desu

>>384242702
>unplayable due to controls
If you can't operate SS controls you either have epilepsy or you're a fucking retard.

>>384244785
>unable to read an article
>calling others retarded
You are the DSP of /v/ posters

>>384244554
>It did work though. You had to use it with wiimotion+ right?

the point is a lot of people hated the wii-mote and would have preferred to experience the game with a real controller instead of being forced to play with something they hated

>>384244858
Sounds like you're projecting an awful lot, anon.

>>384244894
>Y-you're projecting!
Ok anon.

>>384244830
I found Wind Waker worst honestly. I played through SS twice, one normally and then hero mode right after. If it were that bad, I wouldn't have bothered.

>>384244830
>it still is the worst Zelda game
Worst full 3D Zelda. I dislike PH more.

>>384244830
There are no bad Zelda games except the CD-i ones

>>384244880
Like I said, too bad. It is right for Nintendo to sacrifice popularity in the name of pushing their artistic vision.

>>384244934
>I found Wind Waker worst honestly
How come? I loved the atmosphere and exploration.

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>>384242896
>e-celeb who unironically defends SS
Into the trash.

>>384245072
that's fine, just don't get defensive when people don't like it and call it crap

>>384245032
>CDi Zelda games
>bad
They're perfectly servicable. You've been watching too many YTPs and drinking the kool-aid. They're decent fun and were ahead of their time in cutscene and voice acting technology.

>>384245194
If you're butthurt about being called an idiot on 4chan...

>>384245194
>talk smack
>plz don't wack
It doesn't work that way anon

>>384245112
Wasn't really the biggest fan of the ocean or the dungeons.

>>384245245
i'm just calling the wiimote garbage and doing this just for the sake of discussion, I don't care what you call me"..."

>>384243801

>not liking wii-motes
>lol you're an idiot

Why are nintendofags so insufferable. The wiimote was a horrible piece of equipment.

How bad are BoTWs dungeons?

>>384245389
Then stop getting so defensive anon.
>>384245461
Idiot.

>>384244309
TP was garbage, you stupid redditor

>>384245386
Yeah but why. Explain yourself, nonce.

>>384245461
t. fat cunt that can't move his arms much without getting out of breath

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>>384245503

>>384244309
If you believe BOTW has no level design you might as well kill yourself nigger.

>>384245534
Because the ocean was empty and dull and the dungeons were baby mode.
Why are you getting upset, you fucking retard?

>>384245640
Ocean was a necessity for the islands to have the proper pay-off and atmosphere, and it had enough interesting things to do.
Explain the dungeons.
>Why are you getting upset
I called you a nonce you fucking nonce.

This game does almost everything better than every 3D Zelda before it but this board hates on it because REQUIRED WAGGLIN LOL.

Game is great.

>>384245125
He's not defending SS, retarded faggot. He shat on it during the entire video. He only said the dungeons in SS were really great.

>>384245480
You won't like them if you're a filthy pleb

>>384245480
non-existent asides from the final boss and I guess if you count the divine beasts, which I wouldn't.

>>384245730
Yeah, except for combat, overworld, content, sidequests, controls and dungeons.

>>384245730
Too much handholding and it goes for too long. Also, you're forced to revisit the same areas too many times.

>>384245719
>Ocean was a necessity
I didn't say it wasn't. I said I don't like it anyway.
>Explain the dungeons.
I just did, they were too easy and not very interesting.
>I called you a nonce you fucking nonce.
Exactly, you got upset and sperged out like a retard.

>>384245849
uhh, then what the fuck do you do in the game?

>>384245856
Except for the fact that the dungeons were great. Way better than anything in WW and TP

>>384245909
>I didn't say it wasn't
Then you like it after all. You admit it could not be replaced.
>I just did
No, explain why they are babby-mode.
>Exactly, you got upset and sperged out like a retard.
What a nonce.

>>384245856
SS has better combat, sidequests and dungeons compared to Twilight Princess.

>>384242167
the dungeons are good. definitely not enough to redeem the game as a whole.

>>384246039
>Then you like it after all
No I don't. It was essential for the story, that doesn't mean it wasn't still shit.
>No, explain why they are babby-mode.
I just did.
>What a nonce.
What a crying faggot.

>>384246213
>It was essential for the story
I'm talking about the gameplay.
>I just did.
You saying it isn't explaining it you pansy.
>What a crying faggot
What a ponce.

>>384246284
>I'm talking about the gameplay.
So am I.
>You saying it isn't explaining it you pansy.
It is, you autist.
>What a ponce.
What a crying faggot.

>>384242967
Majora's Mask has by far the best dungeons.

>>384242167

Skyward sword only really has one stand out dungeon and everything else is just above average. The problem is that they just reuse the dungeons over and over, which is a cool concept, but when you keep the same zelda formula but instead of new dungeons you just recycle all the old ones.

Skyward Swords issues lie in other places, motion controls are a fine alternative, but they go out of synch. Tell me it would be acceptable for any other gaming controller to only work 95% of time.

The sky somehow ended up being emptier and more useless then the ocean in wind waker was, that is a feat.

>>384244452
ACfag can't possibly like any 3D Zelda, they have too much story and cinematics.

>>384246389
>Skyward sword only really has one stand out dungeon and everything else is just above average. The problem is that they just reuse the dungeons over and over, which is a cool concept, but when you keep the same zelda formula but instead of new dungeons you just recycle all the old ones.
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board for months.

>>384242167
Probably my favourite Zelda after Majora's Mask.

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>>384243591

>>384242167
>incredible art direction
>good dungeons
>combat that, while still not deep, is more involving than the rest of the series
>good music

>WAHH IT'S THE WORST I WANT TO GO BACK TO RIDING A BOAT AROUND AN EMPTY BLUE SCREEN WAHHH

>>384248787
139thpbp

>>384242167
Needs more enforced battles against the unsealed