>want to play a fun video game >they're all shit

who /lostallhope/ here?

>>384241804
Steam Early Access on 20th December 2018. Follow Twitter.

>>384242584
Yup. The E3 videos proved that they're just making Warband with better graphics instead of anything new.

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>>384242610
>Early Access

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>>384242660
you forgot improved sieges.

This alone makes it worth it.

>>384242960
plus customization, improved tactics and generally smoother combat

>>384242723
>>384242610
Early access is a given considering the original M&B was one of the first early access titles ever. Just not through steam because it wasn't available yet.

>>384241804

take a look at machiavilain http://store.steampowered.com/app/555510/MachiaVillain/
looks fun and promising so far

>>384242660
>better sieges
>item creation
>more interaction with towns (like setting up bandits in there)
>better quest system
>better town customization
>more npc interaction

i could go on, but they arent just making warband, they are improving everything that exists

what else do you want from a sequel?

>>384242960
They seriously did not look very different.

>>384243231
The original Mount&Blade was just released as a shit game with a lot of potential, and got patched a lot.
Then the multiplayer got sold as a separate game, Warband.

There was no "early access", it was a case of forever in beta, a very modern idea back then, that has since taken root.

>>384243275
1. Item crafting.
2. Intractable siege engines.
3. Minigames in inns.

Those are the new features. Everything else that has a vague "better X" is not a new feature.

>>384243078
And maybe voice activated commands like the PS4 version of Warband

>>384244209
It's effectively what we would now consider early access as it was released as an unfinished game in alpha state.

>>384244209
It was very much so early access. I remember being a kid and playing that shit back when it was just Zendar and Dark Knight spawnpoints.

You had a free demo, but you could only level to I think 5, then you had to pay to play the rest of the beta, and content was added as time went by. That's early access.

>>384244291
Whether the feature is new or not the game is being improved. To say it's just warband with better graphics would be ignorant.

>>384244443
Do you remember horse archers with 100% accuracy shooting you in the eye while running away from you 666 sanics per hour?

>>384241804

I've been waiting years.

I have lost all hope.

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>>384241804
>not emulating old games
Joke's on you. Im having a great time

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>>384241804
>Bannerlord when?

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>>384241804
Same day as Cyberpunk 2077 and Star Citizen

>>384241804
Can someone tell what could they possibly still doing with the game for the last 3 years? They pretty much copied the original game with a few enhancements here and there, nothing that should warrant such long delay.

>>384246173
Maybe they're, I dunno, making it better?

>>384246173
You must be 18 to post here

How did they improve sieges? The most notable difference seems to be the ability to place siege towers where you want.

>>384246298
Destruction
Multiple entry points
Artillery

>>384246390
But all those things were in Warband, at least in the multiplayer.

>>384246173
The dev team is smaller than a match box. The fact that they managed to make a game like Warband is a miracle in and out of itself.

>>384246298
>How did they improve sieges?

1. Siege equipment you can interact with.
2. Defensive equipment you can interact with.
3. Bigger castles and more dudes on the battlefield.
4. Some (scripted, not simulated) destruction on the walls and doors.

Basically stuff that multiplayer mods already had, except done with good UI and not hacked from an outdated engine.

>>384246298
ballistas and onagres arent an improvement for you ?

you gay son ?

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>>384246484
The Bannerlord dev team is bigger than that of Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls games, or the Witcher games.
This is a picture from 2013, they are 102 developers now.

>>384246495
Once you've clearly taken the walls the enemy will retreat to the keep.

>>384246603
I wonder how many of them are in prison now.

>>384246603
Oh wow, okay. I take that back then.
I thought it was still that guy and his wife coding it.

>>384246625
So just like the multiplayer.

>>384246625
This was already in Warband singleplayer, the sieges had 3 phases - take the outer walls, take the courtyard, take the keep.

>>384246173
this is the first game they have fully developed themselves. the first mountain blade was beta tested thoroughly for years until it was finally released

>>384246603
It's going to be a piece of shit if it gets released, isn't it? That many devs means a lot of funding, which means a lot of sponsors, which means a lot of detached suits who know fuck all about vidya coming with "suggestions"

>>384246673
It it makes you feel better, probably half are interns, since the government Academy of Sciences that funds the project is an academic institutions so students go there to get work experience.

There was some greek MMO developer who did a similar thing, I forgot their name.
I do remember they released a buggy MMO that I played, and then fixed all the bugs and released it again, of course charging money again.

>>384246603
That one ginger in the middle
>welp

>>384246784
Poor little swadian boy in the middle of a khergit raiding party.

>>384246603
QT
T

>>384246603
>that dude in chaimail

>>384246685
No, in the single player you had to beat a FUCKING TON of enemies in the walls, they just kept spawning till they were all dead.
Now once you've taken the walls and have numbers inside, the gates open, all that jazz, the enemy VISABLY BACKS AWAY into the keep.

>>384246603
>turks are not whi-

>>384246173
make it not a buggy mess from the start.
There are still some annoying bugs in Warband(which is already a updated version) that never got fixed.

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Fuck Erdogan

>>384246902
I specifically remember singleplayer sieges being like this...

1. You fight enemies until they are out.
2. Combat resets, text screen.
3. You fight the enemies who were only knocked out in the past fight, not killed, in the courtyard.
4. Combat resets, text screen.
5. You fight the enemies who were only knocked out in the past two fights, not killed, in the keep. Usually just a few elite dudes and the leaders.

Or is this some mod?

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>>384246989
>There are still some annoying bugs in Warband(which is already a updated version) that never got fixed.

Such as? Just being curious here. I can't recall walking into many bugs or glitches.

>>384246173
the only excuse I can find for them is they're a small team.

but yeah, considering the amount of time and hype, bannerlord, despite being an obvious upgrade from warband, will be a letdown.

>>384247068
No that's how it works. Anon is saying in Bannerlord, instead of fighting waves and waves of spawning enemies after you've physically taken the walls all those enemies will retreat into the keep which has to be taken. Not just a combat reset in a new stage.

>>384247068
that's how it worked on defense sometimes. on offense you had to kill everyone without any kind of rest

>>384247248
No, this is how it works on the OFFENSE. When you are sieging.

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>>384241804
2024

>>384247213
Well in Warband after you've physically taken the walls, you have probably already killed the enemy.
Hard to take the walls (not contest, but proper take them) if there are people there. Not even a matter of skill, you just can't fucking move through the masses of defenders.

>>384247328
embrium?

>>384241804
>Banking on shit combat: the game.
why?

>>384247068
Combat normally goes

>Kill 95% of garison
>If in town go to street fighting against a small number
>Go to keep, fight against a small number.

in Bannerlord its
>Take the walls
>Go to fighting in the town or keep
It makes the actual first part of a siege take a lot less time.
Not sure how it effects the keep stage, I assume it'll have more enemies but will be like in warband, and then when you win the defeated army will run or be taken prisoner.

>>384247380
Taking the walls is easier in Bannerlord.
A few times when I was playing Warband I had my whole army inside the walls just camped out in front of the enemy spawn point. Had to wait around for a good 10 minutes before it moved to Keep stage.

>>384247627
I wish, wish, wish, that lords could die and new ones generated, like the orcs in that Lord of the Rings game I never finished.

>>384246938
te

>>384247627
>Had to wait around for a good 10 minutes before it moved to Keep stage.

Why would you attack a city where the Swadian army is feasting?

>>384247596
Because it's not actually shit combat. Along with this you have a empire building sequence, along with RPG elements. Which are also pretty good.

Even if the combat was shit, the rest would make up for it to be an ok game.

>>384247829
they had to die at some point

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>>384242660
>Game 2 is different from Game 1
>OMG THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST MAKE GAME 1 EXCEPT BETTER
>Game 2 is the same as Game 1 but with newer tech and some gameplay improvements
>OMG THEY RUINED EVERYTHING WHY WOULD I WANT TO PLAY THE SAME GAME TWICE

>>384241804
>Bannerlord when?
No idea, It doesn't look like a good period for people who work in Turkey

>>384247596
>>384248020
>batman arkham asylum combat spread and infected many other games
>dark souls combat is spreading and infecting other games right now
>mount&blade combat didn't spread and nobody else is using it

fugggg

>>384248113
The first point would be valid if everything Bannerlord has couldn't be modded into Warband. If you don't want something new, play the old one. I've played M&B to death and Bannerlord isn't reviving shit.

I wish there were a gothic-like game with that kind of combat.

>>384248473
Or at least a mod to give gothic a similar combat system.

>>384248334
It has spread though? It's the same shitty FPS-derived floaty-ass combat in everything from TES, to Chivalry, to Dark Messiah, Mordhau, etc and they all have the same traits (can attack freely while moving, no hitstop, no hitstun, incredibly limited attacks, etc).

>>384248550
>what is directional attacks
>what is directional blocking
>what is weapon range actually mattering and weapons having dead zones
>what is faints and chamber block, etc

If you think Skyrim has Warband combat, you are a moron.

>>384246784
must be a Janissary

>>384248781
Just slightly fleshed out TES, the rhythm and fundamentals are the same.
Also, the feints in Warband are actually pretty fucked-up. High-level fights are just brainless feint spam. When you play a good game, you can't feint a million times a second.

>>384249008
>If you think Skyrim has Warband combat, you are a moron.
>Yes, I am a moron.

Okay.

>>384242660
That's what we want!

>>384249008
You are a fucking idiot.

>>384249091
They have the same shitty spacing/neutral/etc. I know that hurts your feefees, but it's the truth when you play an abhorration of a genre.

>>384249091
>>384249168
>all these buttblasted mount & fag.
kek..

>>384246938
Mehmet my son

>>384246938
>americans consider this white

>>384242723
OUTO

>>384250457
if italians are white, then turks are white

>>384246173
>They pretty much copied the original game with a few enhancements here and there

They didn't, and you're a fool to think that's how game development works.

>>384246173
They were about to release until Erdogan held his fake coup. He discovered Armagan was a secret military supporter and so Erdogan came into the studio and erased everything!!!!

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>>384250550
>if italians are white

>>384250751
>us whites built civilization! we created so much culture, philosophy, and all of western thought!!!
>by the way greeks and italians aren't white

>>384250892
whites were invented thousands of years after rome

>>384250472
AUTO

>>384250892
>[greek & roman] culture, philosophy, and all of western thought

What happened to all that?

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>>384246603

>>384246702
>>It's going to be a piece of shit if it gets released, isn't it?
yes

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>>384251382

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>>384244291
>Item crafting

>>384251523
Not like, gather x, y, and z materials to combine into your weapon, but being able to customize them at a blacksmith with different pommels, grips, blade lengths and sizes that all affect it's swing speed and damage and reach.

struggling to think of features that I would want other than those announced/already in mods

>>384251810
coop

>>384251917
kek

>>384251810
Coop
Enhanced RTS features so that you can micro your units more effectively from the map, control groups, boxing and such
Razing holdings permanently, building holdings from scratch, upgrading holdings as they grow
Diplomacy that isn't barebones as fuck
Lords not being immortal, lords being able to have kids that are raised into new lords, lords being brought up from the nobility

>>384252172
>Coop
Kek

>Enhanced RTS features so that you can micro your units more effectively from the map, control groups, boxing and such
>Razing holdings permanently, building holdings from scratch, upgrading holdings as they grow
>Lords not being immortal
Already in mods

>kids that are raised into new lords
would take too long, unless you want 5000 hour saves, or 12 days a year

>>384251319
SJWs trying to bury all of it.
Seem to be pretty successful in that so far.

>>384252402
Coop would be fun, what's wrong with wanting to play the grand campaign with a buddy as two parties roaming the map? That'd be really cool.

Those features are somewhat in mods, but executed like shit. There's no good mod that gives you good and precise control of your troops, allowing you to manage their control groups on the fly during battle, carefully reposition select units and such, mods just add more commands to the regular menu. I've never seen a mod doing city razing/construction well either.

Obviously it'd be sped up, like everything in Warband. I mean damn, you can loot a town and it'll be resettled within a week, and a shitfarmer peasant can become a knight of the highest order in a couple of days. Kids would grow to adults in a year or so.

>>384252026
>>384252402
>kek

Easy to implement.

Host is the leader, the rest are party members, like NPC companions.
On the strategic map, one person is the leader and moves the party, the others can draw on the maps or use chat to communicate, ping at things, etc. Just DOTA2's map functionality basically, super simple stuff.
On the tactical map, everyone is playing their own character, moving around town or fighting in combat. And before combat, the leader (host) can assign different troops to the different players to command in the battle.

So you are like observers with limited interactivity during the strategic map sections, you can still check stats, party members, look around the map, etc, just not move the party directly.
And on the tactic maps you can control your own character, as if you were playing singleplayer, except you can't leave this map before everyone else also is.

a mod called battle time allows coop play for battles but

>two parties roaming the map
this is bait

>>384243275
>still can't create custom kingdom troop tree
>still can't override dumb khergit culture on the villages you conquer

>>384252782
see >>384252793

>>384252793
>not wanting your buddy to have his own party

>>384252667
>two parties roaming the map
And then one gets into a 40 minute battle, and the other waits.

>>384252916
This post in no way addresses mine, and you would do well to learn to read.

>>384248550
>no hitstun

this is how i know that you're speaking from your ass

>>384252958
what happens when one party engages in battle or enters a town?

>>384252979
>
look up the mod called battle time

>>384252979
>>384253107
>And then one gets into a 40 minute battle, and the other waits.

Just handle it similar to Total War. Your buddy can choose to either spectate or take control of a soldier in your army.

You could just let time pass while in town menus, not like you spend long there each time anyway.

>>384253107
>stuck watching the server list when there aren't battles
>still hasn't read and doesn't address my post
Look up an english language schoolbook.

>>384242660
Same game, same mechanics, same animations same clunky engine.

Not sure why people are hyped. Melee combat is atrocious, there is no weight, no should bashing, no shield bash, no proper use of shields, no throwing pommels, or halfswording, no charge weight like horses. They stop at any collision.

Meh game, not really conviced.

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As long as they make Napoleonic Warfare again, I'll pay.

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>>384241804
No Bannerlord for you.

t. Erdogan

>>384253396
Go play for honor or something you memester

If you didn't like Warband, chances are you won't like the sequel either

>>384241804

Oh yeah? Then play with this

*unzips dick*

>>384253304
I never said it had all the features you want

>>384253456
>go play a better game instead

Thanks, I will :)

>>384253456
Anon he's clearly making fun of the guy he replied to.

>no throwing pommels

>>384253456
I do liked Warband, top notch game. For honour is pvp not my thing.

But we get the same thing without any new additions. Its just pretty graffics

Siegie vehicles are also on the rails

>>384253431
>finally releases for ramadan 2018
>its turkey exclusive
>have to buy a slow proxy to play
>every 30 minutes have to say the tabkir in the microphone or it shuts down

>>384253605
>cant storm out as the defenders to steal the catapult and bring it inside

Oh well, I guess its for the best.

>>384253396
stfuKEK

the game is fucking perfect as it is

you should be groveling at the devs feet for all those new features

I would of bought it even if it were just new graphics..

I was playing Warband yesterday and I got so sick of it I alt+F4'd. What is happening to me, lads? What am I supposed to do?

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>>384253842
Play other games for a while instead.
Can't play the same shit every day, you will burn out.
Rest until Bannerlord. Delete Warband and never boot it up again. Get real thirsty and when Bannerlord comes out you will feast.

>>384253842
What mod?

>>384242660

updated warband is quite literally all we want

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>>384253842
play multiplayer mods

>>384253962
Taking a break at least sounds like a good idea. Warband eats up so much of my time, I actually forget that other games exist sometimes.

>>384253982
Diplomacy. Most of the time I've just played Native because it's been enough for me.

>>384254271
Then swap mods, try geekyweeaboo, it's fun and polished

>>384250591
what a nasty roach!