>tfw the 4th entry always ruins the franchise What's

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>putting uncharted 4 and bf4 on the list

>>384141402
Uncharted 4 isn't the worst game in the series. Try playing the first one, it's fucking garbage full of bullet sponge enemies.

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>>384141402

>>384141402
>DMC4
DMC2 and DmC are way worse. Delete this because it's not true.

>>384141402
Why do people forget Reach exists?

Oblivion

Far Cry 4 was alright

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>We can never have one of these threads without sneaking a good game into the mix
You take that back about uncle Dante

>>384141743
Because reach is a better game than 4? Also, technically not a mainline game.

>>384141770
Indeed. It's marginally better than 3

>>384141402
>4th entry always ruins it.
Not true, Bloodborne was the best Souls game by miles.

>>384141597
I've played the first one countless times. It's not the best, but it's easily better than 4.

2 > 1 > 3 > 4

>>384141770
It was the worst in the series

>>384141730
>>384141880
>newfags defending DMC4 now that DmC exists

>>384141402
That's a terrible selection of examples. The only decent ones are Sonic and Crash and even then Sonic 4 wasn't the fourth game.

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*blocks your path*

>>384141402
>OoT, RE4, FF4, Persona 4, SMT4

Sound like the 4th games are pretty good. You could also count BloodBorne or DaS3 as the 4th game. I mean, DeS, DaS, DaS2, BB, DaS3.

>>384142586
>It was the worst in the series
>what is the first far cry

>Far Cry 4
>Uncharted 4

Come on OP play it before you say something

>>384142586
Are you retarded?

2 > 4 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1

Sonic CD was basically sonic 4

and it was shit

>MGS4
>worst
It had the best story and best gameplay in the series. Yeah, it had cutscenes as well, but even those had amazing cinematography, rivaling most Hollywood blockbusters. So fuck off.

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384144317

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>>384142761
*double blocks your path*

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>>384144426
>>384142761
WE WILL HOLD THE LINE

>>384144293
Uh yeah, Sonic & Knuckles was the 4th.

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>>384141402
>>tfw the 4th entry always ruins the franchise
Most of the games you have in that pic are AAA shit games
Anyways Castlevania 4 is better then most classicvanias

>>384144426
You're not supposed to prove OP's point.

>>384144403
>he doesn't agree with me
>it's surely bait!
Very nice.

>bf4
>Uncharted 4
>SR4
>Shit
No

>>384145226
>BF4
>SR4
>Not shit
Anon get some better taste pls

MvC Infinite

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>>384141402
>implying DMC4 is not GOAT
>implying FO3 was not already cancer

>>384145226
BF4 and SR4 are absolute dogshit.

>>384141770
It's just Far Cry 3 with a worse story, worse characters, a worse map/level design and even more collectible bullshit.

>>384145584
>a worse map/level design

You're allowed to share your shit taste

>>384141402
>shit taste: the thread
how can one anon be wrong?

>>384145736
Far Cry 3 has better level design both in the open world map as well as the outposts.
Kyrat is basically two squares of flat terrain with unclimbable mountains sourrounding them that are joined at a single point.
All the outposts in FC4 are just a bunch of houses randomly dropped into the countryside without any regard to stealth or different approaches.

>>384144317
>best story

Holy shit you cannot be this delusional

>>384141402
>Fallout
>Battlefield
>Far Cry
>good
Leave /v/ now

>>384146942
Nice argument.

>>384141402
>BF4
the damage was done with bad company, bf4 is the only good frostbite game after all of the patches

Kek

Uncharted 3 was the worst one though

>>384141402
Metroid Prime

>>384148656
why

I wanted to get into the series

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>these games are shit
>no, they're not
>yes, they are

>>384148816
Then play 2 then

>>384148656
You're a faggot.
4>3>GA>2>1

Can we insert Age of Mythology between Age of Empires 2 and 3? And if not, can we count Halo Wars?

>>384149361
Kek

3 fucked up the shooting mechanics so badly,puzzles was garbage and neither the story was interesting and took until halfway to kick off with worse villains and pointless filler to pad the game like the cruise ship was NOT necessary, since Drake had assumed Sully was already kidnapped. That's the WHOLE reason he stayed on that ship. If they had just had him pass out(like he did), and then wake up under Elena's care(like he did), then you would have accomplished the EXACT same thing without wasting anyone's time.

>>384150273
>puzzles was garbage
So were 2's. In fact, 3 at least had puzzles.

>neither story was interesting
kek, more interesting that the garbage that was 2

>worse villains
KEK
Yeah dude, the urrrgh so angry russian man was such a great villain. lmfao. get the fuck out, retard.

>>384151194
explain the villains of 3 without describing their nationality or age

also tell me how they could teleport through walls and shit

But Fallout 3 ruined Fallout

>>384141402
>based BF4

FUCK OFF!!

wheres resident evil 4?

>>384143207
>OoT
The 4th Zelda game was Link's Awakening though, so the point stands

>>384141563
This. Uncharted never had a good game to begin with.

I didn't mind it, but Apollo Justice certainly changed the direction of the series for better or for worse

>>384144907
Any 4 made before 2000 is good because only good games lasted through that many releases.
Castlevania
Gauntlet
Might and Magic
Wizardry
Ultima
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy
Ys
Mega Man

I guess you could argue Silent Hill 4 but it was merely the first one to not be a masterpiece. Compared to what came after Origins though, it might as well be one.

>>384152552
Phantady Star IV although my overall favourite is 2

>>384152853
3 was already a bit shitty next to 2. But the room it wasnt even supposed to be a SH game

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>tfw the 4th entry always rui-

Yakuza

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>>384141402
Bloodborne?

or maybe OP is a faggot

>DMC4
>Bad

What the fuck are you on about? We used to have entire fucking threads about the game, it was a well like game before DmC, solid mechanics, an amazing PC port that could be played on a toaster, and CRAZY fun.

>>384153624
>Defending a half finished game
Nu-/v/ is embarrassing sometimes, I'll bet you liked Final Fantasy XV too.

>MGS4
>bad
In what way, dickhead?

>>384142586
We'll all agree, 2 is the best, but 3 is total shitty shit, so 2>1>4>3

>>384154483
You have to be severely underage to not see how MGS4 is a steaming pile of rancid shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0d6iKkeUeI

>>384144724
Am I bad for liking this game?

>>384152149
Why did you all four games then?

>>384141402
Except for MGS4, you're actually right. RE4 didn't ruin the franchise and CoD4 actually was the best in the series along with BO2, FF4 also shit all over the previous 3 as did SMW. It's more of a case by case basis.

>>384141563
Uncharted 4 was balls compared to the previous 3 and BF4 was right shit.

>>384152853
No, SH4 was just plain shit.

>>384156550
MGS4 is the worst game on that list.

>>384156756
I liked it better than 3, but that's not a popular opinion around here. Even looking at its flaws, it's still a better game than Penis Walker and V.

>>384148757
How can Prime 4 ruin anything when literally all we know about it is that it exists

>>384154690
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAA, people like things that I don't, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What seriously is so bad about it?

>>384142660
Sonic 4 was shit, my dude. There's a reason why Sega doesn't acknowledge anymore now that Mania exists.

>>384141402
D44M

>>384154690
MGS4 is amazing kiddo.

>>384157489
>Completely ruins ambiguous nature of MGS2
>Codec team from Snake Eater is now the Illuminati
>Big Boss was reconstructed from Liquid and Solidus
>Raiden is now a cyborg because the Patriots experimented on him even though they already had the technology to do such
>Beauty and the Beast unit all have identical over the top back stories
>Vamp was just nanomachines
>Dr. Madnar is somehow alive despite being killed on screen in MG2
There's probably a lot more I'm missing too, it's good for the first two chapters since the gameplay is pretty fun after that there is no gameplay and the story is fan fiction tier and completely ruined the original trilogy.

>>384141402
But fallout 4 is the 8th entry in the series. Same for halo.

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U4 was great, especially after turd that was U3.

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>>384144293
>having such shit taste
>>384144797
>not knowing S3 and S&K were just two parts of the same game
Only autistic sonic fans should be allowed to talk about sonic.

>>384142761
I started playing it and it's honestly not to bad. Considering my last ac was the second. But besides the awfully bland characters and the dogshit combat the pirate theme is solid enough to scratch my pirate craving. Anyone know any good pirate rpgs with big worlds to explore and maybe even crew mechanics?

>>384143337
>Implying newfag babies even knew there was a first one.

You're completely right tho.

>>384158670
gameplay was good, story was shite I agree

>>384141563
its just some dumbass pleb showing how shit his pathetic shitter tastes are

and its pretty obvious hes a bandwagoning pleb about MGS, since its first on the list, shows how pleb he is and how retarded he is, kojima literally made a video game explaining how much of a cucked pleb he is, for thinking mgs3 is the best

>>384146257
this is valid complaint
those heights were shit, and mobility was shit because of it, the grappling mechanic sucked , the gyrocopter sucked, the hang gliding barely worked because you could only go like 400 yards tops before hitting a giant mountain barrier
also made driving shit

>>384159141
Black Flag is the best AC game by a long shot.

>>384157038
>it's still a better game than Penis Walker and V
It's barely a game, let alone better than two of the better games in the series.

>>384159357
The problem is, there is almost no gameplay. People who call it a movie aren't memeing and chapter 3 is just awful with the stealth mission.

>>384144724
This game was fun if you had a player 2.

>>384152023
No, that would make OP even less true.

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>>384143207
>Persona 4
>Good

What problem do people have with MGS4 again? I know the story was drawn out wankery but the gameplay wasn't a pretty decent followup to MGS3's mechanics. Especially with the camo. Also those boss battles were fun as fuck.

Zelda was good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvZ4vr_6swk

>>384145226
Saints peaked at two, everything else was hot shit with garbage humor.

>>384160196
The stealth gameplay effectively ends after you meet Naomi.
>boss battles were fun as fuck
They were forgettable as fuck, completely detached from the story. The only decent one was Crying Wolf.

>>384160196
Raging Raven is one of the worst boss fights ever.

>>384157602
That's what I was saying, that Sonic 4 and the Crash game were the only good examples of shit fourth games in OP's image.

>>384160502
>They were forgettable as fuck, completely detached from the story. The only decent one was Crying Wolf.

That was the worst one.

Laughing Octopus, Vamp, RAY and Ocelot were great boss battles.

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>>384160502
> shits on the actually fun boss fights
> brings up the actually shit one as the positive example

holy fucking shit anon

>>384160502
The first part of chapter 3 was literally nothing but stealth, and Shadow Moses had sneaking up until Vamp.

>>384141402
>SR4 ruined the franchise
It was a fantastic game, but of course it ruined it. They were going out with a bang, making fun of every dumb thing the series had. Every series should end like that, so they don't end up like COD or the Simpsons

>>384160856
Ocelot is a fucking QTE. The Wolf one was the only fun one. Octopus is a hide and seek one. Raging Raven is pure shit. Mantis is a joke, and so is Vamp. RAY was ok.

>>384161031
Neither had you use the mechanics the way Act 1 and 2 do. Act 3 is "follow a dude for 50 minutes" . Act 4 is nostalgia fanwank, ruined by the worst enemies in the game.

>>384142586
>>newfags defending DMC4 now that DmC exists

DMC4 was always liked and MDC2 was always the worst until DmC came along

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>>384161245
>Ocelot is a fucking QTE.
MGS4 is awful but the fight with Liquid is the closest video games have come to being art.

>>384161381
You should probably watch a good film or read a book if you think that cringe compilation was anything close to art. It was a dumb fanservice moment for the monkeys in the fanbase.

>>384161245
The idea of the small robots in chapter 4 was that their limited vision and patrol routes was a nod to MGS1. I thought that was great.
I didn't love the tailing section but it was still stealth gameplay.

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>>384161245
Wolf is pretty much the worst sniper boss fight in the entire franchise

> fucking exo-suit protecting her so you can't sneak up on her
> girls scouts not enabling a fair 1v1 sniper fight
> she keeps running the fuck away

basically The End, just with added unnecessary features

>>384161761
Get good.

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>>384161634
>movies
>art

>>384161963
Fuck off, retard. Go fap to Ocelot.

>>384142586
4 has the best combat in the series. This automatically puts it above 1 and 2, it's only behind 3 because of the weaker story mode.

>>384162119
Wasn't even the guy you were talking to, retard.

>>384141402

HL2 Episode 2 ruined the Half-Life series (mainline not counting expansions).

HL1, HL2, HL2:EP1, HL2:EP2 (4th entry).

>>384141402

How exactly was DMC4 worse than 2?

>>384162242
>4 has the best combat in the series.
That's 5

>This automatically puts it above 1 and 2
Not if the story and characters are absolute dogshit in comparison

>>384162390
Sorry, there is no DMC5 unless you're referring to DmC which gutted the combat completely.

>Damage is what determines combat rank, not variation
>Less combos
>Enemies are color coded and can only be hurt by specific attacks which further limits your options

Schwarbage, complete schwarbage,

>>384162390
When did Uncharted 5 release?

>>384162242
>weaker story
>Is the only competently written one
Really gets the old neurons jogging

>>384162695
>>384162738
Oos, thought you were replying to the MGS convo.

My bad, anons.

But DMC3 has the best combat in the series.

>>384141402
I would say thief 4 but the series had no hope with lgs dead anyway

>>384141402
DMC4 is good though.

>>384162990
>Competently written
>They got halfway through before Capcom dropped the time bomb and everything past Chapter 12 is just retreading

K

>>384163097
Dishonored is the real Thief 4.

>>384157357
Because it's actually helping the franchise by the mere fact that it exists.

>>384161953
> get good

still doesn't make the boss fight a fun one : )

>>384163625
it's way more fun than the rest though :^)

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>>384141402
>SR4
>BF4
>FO4
>implying

Son just because you don't like it doesn't mean shit. Also you are comparing FO4 to NV which isn't far. NV was made by a much better team and the forth entry to Fallout technically is Fallout 3 since 1,2, tactics exist. Fallout 3 wasn't bad it was just shit on by New Vegas, the next Fallout game to come out.

Saints Row turned into memerow at SR3. SR4 simply does better than the previous game in all aspects.

There is literally nothing wrong with Battlefield 4 ya cluck. Maybe you shouldn't be running around with a knife in a modern day shooter?

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>>384145403

>implying SR4 isn't leagues ahead of the utter catastrophe that was SR3

lol

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;_;

Gothic 4 / Arcania. For most, Gothic 3 was already bad, but the next one really drove the terminal nail into the franchise's coffin.

MGS4 was the best in its series
Same with DMC4
Battlefield 4 is easily the best BF game made in the last decade
Uncharted gets a pass

everything else I'll agree

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>>384164592
>MGS4 was the best in its series
Not when the games in pic related exist.

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>>384164592
>>384164738
>People unironically defending post MGS3 Metal Gear

>>384141402
>DMC4
>bad

It is arguably the best in the series. It is at the very least the second best.

>>384141402
Super castlevania IV

>>384143207
Persona 4 is the worst game in the series, and spawned close to a decade of garbage milking and pandering.

>>384164889
It's like you didn't have things to say about V and resorted to write the same thing over and over, despite not being really an issue.

>>384164592
Metal Gear stopped being good after 3.

Fallout was ruined with 3 tho

>>384164889
But what about Rising

>>384164889
>It's the Fukushima meme

>>384165429
Biggest piece of shit in the series, makes MGS4 look like a postmodern masterpiece.

>>384142253
That's where I'm drawing the fucking line bud. Far Cry 4 is a way shittier version of 3, with some how more annoying characters

>>384165664
> Fukushima meme
> shitting on Rising

off yourself

>>384165517
>Games go to shit after he leaves
>"It's j-j-ust a meme!"

>>384165312
I won't defend the spinoffs, but nothing in the series can be as bad as 1. I'd go as far to say it is better than 2 since its combat doesn't make me suicidal.

>>384164889
So Kojima was a hack all along then?

>>384165907
>shitting on Rising
Why wouldn't I? It's an incredibly idiotic story that edgy faggots on /v/ like due to memes and how cool cyborg Raiden is. Fucking children.

>>384158845
best advance wars you retard

>>384166290
>shits on Rising
>defends Ghost Babel's unfinished story

>>384159540
>liking uncharted
>not a pleb

>>384166290
> "hurr muh serious Metal Gear was ruined"

>>384141743
Reach is a spinoff

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>>384166239
Yes.

>>384141402
UC4 was good, 3 on the other hand

>>384166290
I didn't defend anything you fucking retard. I'm not the Fukushima guy.

>>384166472
>it's not bad!!
>it's just CUHREAYZEE
Fucking kill yourself.

>>384144426
precursor to awakening waifushit

>>384166576
But that's not what he said...?

Did you pass 4th grade?

>>384144293
Sonic CD is the second Sonic game on the timeline though.

>>384166775
No, but I passed your mom when I fucked her last night, you fucking moron.

>>384166576
Rising's a story that reflects well on its own ridiculousness
the Codecs convos (despite what many would claim) are the best in the series after Snake Eater's

just because you're an uptight faggot who can't enjoy anything unless it's a seriously convulated, "muh post modernism" meme, it doesn't make the game bad

>>384167146
My mother is dead, anon.

>>384167341
That's the best part

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>>384166290
> "Fucking children"

sorry bud : /

sadly, not everyone can keep in mind that Metal Gear's story used to be serious business

>>384167310
>Rising's a story that reflects well on its own ridiculousness
Sure buddy, it's bad on purpose. And so is MGSV. Unfinished, to give the player "Phantom Pain".

Fuck off. It's a dumb anime game for retarded 13 year olds.

>>384167472
Stop fucking jars, anon.

>>384167694
> Sure buddy, it's bad on purpose.

what exactly made you so mad about Rising lol

I fucking dare you to tell me that ace combat 04 ruined the series