why does everyone have a boner over this game? I played it and

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>>384119407
?

>>384119407
>I played it and was pretty disappointed,
same, locations are the same everywhere
story is fine I guess, but execution is terrible
combat is mediocre platinum shit
only good feeling comes from movement, movement animations are good

>>384119407
This game is dogshit, unfortunately there are many weaboo in this world.

>>384119407
>the story was a mess
No, you.

I found the gameplay to be really good but I dont like the idea of having to repeat it over and over to experience a small amount of new content each time.

The over world is tiny, the game is short and the story line feels like it only comes into play during cutscenes. all other times you're just killing time and I ended up running past everything most of the time because theres literally no reason to. I also found my chips made the game way too easy very early on. All of that customization and upgrades made me expect a far longer game and I while I like the concept, I would have preferred a two or three max playthrough scenario with more overworld activity and interactivity. Also what the fuck is the deal with there being only one way to get to places, everything else is cut off like they dont want you exploring around or getting around easily for no reason.

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>>384120465
My understanding; as someone who didnt pay a lot of attention towards the end;

Humans send Androids to Earth to assist the Resistance Camp on Earth, you investigate various occurrences on the map while discovering the alien robots are mimicing/developing human emotions and behavior. Aliens get together Adam and Eve for reasons. So now the gay boys are the antagonists making all the robots go psychotic, which is bad because a carnival taught you the meaning of friendship and love already (who knows though, 2B emotional state is all over the place for [s]no reason[/s] tsundere reasons, as everyone else is normal). So you kill Adam , because hes extra cocky, although we get no character exposition with these guys its just wanking the entire time, and the other wants revenge. At this point the plot is rapidly wrapping up with basically nothing happening story wise, the bum town that you cant teleport to for most of the game burns down, then you fight Eve. The fight is generic and we learn nothing particularly interesting other than the robots are now free.

Id love to be wrong and if subsequent play-throughs are radically different and interesting im all for it. but I cant be fucking doing another round of that, with just the dogshit hacking minigame instead.

Story was just a list of tropes with typical animu acting and characters. World looked kind of nice but blurry because at higher res it runs like dogshit. Combat was average at best. Music was lovely but got repetitive. Some nice scenes in the game brought it more to life. Overall 6.5 worth playing but not getting memed into buying full price like I did.

>>384121317
>Aliens get together Adam and Eve for reasons.

Adam and Eve were created from the machines. Aliens were long dead.

>So you kill Adam , because hes extra cocky, although we get no character exposition with these guys its just wanking the entire time, and the other wants revenge

You have to play 9S' route to get more of them.

>Id love to be wrong and if subsequent play-throughs are radically different

They are. 9S's route (ending B) is his side of of the first playthrough (ending A), he plays differently from 2B, has unique main story quests and side quests.

Endings C, D and E are completely new content from ending's A and B.

>>384121317
>he stopped at Ending A

How the fuck did you play NieR and then not realize that you needed to play through all the endings to get the full story?

Or did you just listen to NieR's music on YouTube? You did, didn't you? You fucking disgust me.

>>384121815
>>384121831
I saw the game restart with more flying, then it seemed to be exactly the same just with the hacking thing which I really didn't think would justify another playthrough. I just finished A, the machines are happy heads forever, so i feel demonalized at the moment, like shit thats the extent of the overworld.

>>384121317
>Humans send Androids to Earth
lol

The game's story isnt that great but everything else was fine enough.

I could shit on its gameplay but its not doing anything a bunch of other games haven't done, its just standard ARPG cliches with a few niceties thrown in.

Drakengard 1 and Nier 1 are Taro's best games

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>>384121317
>He only completed one playthrough and stopped without realizing he only experienced half of the game at best

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>there isn't a single choice to make in route [A]
>I guess the game telling me which ending I got in the main menu and it being the first letter of the alphabet means nothing
Consider becoming a god.

>>384122252
So you agree then, if ive experience 50% in my first playthrough, im experiencing tiny additional amounts then in the next subsequent 4 playthroughs? Thats kind my point really :^)

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>>384119407
Your taste is shit, easy as that.

>>384121317
You mention the OST being inferior to NieR in the OP, but you only played Automata to ending A? Someone clearly didn't play NieR

>>384122496
Im not the OP

>>384122027
>then it seemed to be exactly the same just with the hacking thing which I really didn't think would justify another playthrough
Except the purpose of route B, just like on Nier, was to show extra things like hearing the voice of the shade possessing Kaine, or the story about her grandmother, or the voices of the bosses, or their backstories, and you should already know this because you've played Nier right? The endings after that were radically different right? So why would you stop after a little bit of B knowing there would be more?

>>384122027
Assuming you did most of the side quests during Ending A then you'll notice Ending B will be considerably shorter. The main story in both Nier games is much shorter than you'd initially think.

>>384122482
> animeposter
> plays shitty weeb garbage games
Every time.

I found it too hard/unfair and gave up.

>>384122434
no, you experience about 10% extra in route B and then the other 40% in route C
it's not a tiny amount each time when route C is entirely new content

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Ironic twitter weeaboos. 80% of the people here will rip you apart for not getting ending E, yet they've never even play Nier let alone a Drakengard game. The story is alright and the gameplay is hot garbage, it just gained attention because of 2B and "dude thicc lmao"

It's the same way MGSV is considered garbage among people who actually played the other games, yet the people who played MGSV first think it was good.

>>384122881
>calls out ironic weebs
>posts ironic weeb fotm garbage

>>384119407
desu I was just really impressed with the amount of content
same with prey, sick and tired of paying money for games nowadays and getting a 6 hour campaign with very little re-playability

>>384122951
>ignoring the fact he's 100% right

having been steeped in both Taro and Kojima fanbases what he says resonates even more

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>hey guys why do people like this game i don't like it
What a fucking useless post

>>384123030
Are you also steeped in sucking cock

>>384123030
he is right
and so am I

>>384123159
I did suck my own for a while, its overrated imo.

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>>384122881
Let's be real though. Nobody should have to actually play any of the Drakengard games. 1 is garbage redeemed by just how out there it is, 2 is one of the worst games ever made and 3 isn't worth playing unless you've played 1 in addition to the terrible optimisation.

>>384122881
I've played Drakengard, NieR and Automata and I think Automata is a good game. I like all 3

>>384123364
I actually had more fun playing Drakengard 1 than Automata. It kept me interested and I wasn't waiting for it to "get better". It also had some of the more interesting gameplay ideas that sadly weren't expanded upon.

I think Taro can do well going back to the musou format,

The feeling you get when you're fighting Simone for the first time and you get hit with a hacking attack for the first time.

>>384119407

Haven't played this game in particular, but if its weeb shit /v/ will eat it up regardless of quality. Even Nintendo which doesn't get enough hate for its years of bullshit.

>>384119407
I see what makes this game special and I know exactly why it's popular on /v/ but that doesn't change that the game is mediocre as fuck.

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Somebody please tell its ok to look up a guide for getting all the weapons.

I'm at 90 something % and at this point, wandering around looking for them and their upgrade materials is just burning me out so bad.

>>384123830
Yeah, go for it. Try fishing and using the item scanner

>>384123830
If you are autistic enough to 100% a game you should suffer trough it entirely instead of looking up when it becomes inconvenient. For what reason to you 100% game? If there is no bonus challenge attached to it why even bother? If you look it up it's not legit.

>>384123830
go right ahead

>the music was inferior to the first nier

this is the biggest red flag to know that someone has no fucking clue what they are talking about

>>384119407
Android ass.
I found the game to be quite mediocre.

>>384124261
Yea this, I dont even like the story but the music did everything it needed to do .

>>384123417
I'm still frustrated that Drakengard 1 features the best chapter selection menu in the entire series. It's all fast and easy to access, available right from the start and allows you to even select individual cutscenes, with of them clearly marked down as whether they're cutscenes, events or missions.

>>384124094
He's not looking to 100% the game, he wants to find all weapons because Ending Y requires all of them.

>>384123830
On that note, make sure you die in that fight during the countdown to get Ending Y, otherwise if you win there's no way to get it.

I feel like movement and combat are intentionally very basic and indirect to hit home some masochistic point. I by no means excuse it only pointing it out.

>>384124261
Both have excellent soundtracks, but Nier has the better one of the two.

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>>384124015
>fishing
Yeah, doing a shitload of that right now, accidentally found the 3rd pod so I assume some other things can be found with it.
>item scanner
Completely forgot about it, gonna equip that bad boy again.

>>384124094
>For what reason to you 100% game?
Where did I write about 100%? I still have so many others things like fish/archives/reports etc and I didn't even mention anything about looking those up.

I'll see what I can get out of item scanner for a bit more then I'll probably do the guide.

>>384124412
>make sure you die in that fight
You mean Adam's fight with 9S? What if go back by chapter select?

>>384124463
>very basic
Extremely basic and masochistic is Drakengard. Very basic is Nier. Decent is Automata.

>>384119407
I actually liked the story. A lot of characterisation and themes are much more subtle than in other videogames. Take, for example, route B. At the end of A you hear 2B say "why does thid always have to end like this", which lets you know that she's encountered loss like that already. So, during B, you're able to reevaluate A LOT of her actions towards 9S. The game makes actual use of allegories (most notably, humans are a metaphor for your reason to live, something you long for but can never reach) and general Existentialist and Absurdist themes.

>>384124412
Drakengard 1 is also the only one where alternate routes actually mattered.

In both Nier 1 and Automata they were essentially glorified chapter breaks. Nobody knows what Drakengard 3 was doing.

>>384124483
You're objectively wrong, both in the quality of the soundtrack and how it uses its soundtrack Automata surpassed Nier totally.

>>384124573
>You mean Adam's fight with 9S? What if go back by chapter select?
If you want to unlock every ending then you'll be using the chapter select a lot, but Ending Y is during the final fight with Emil and you can only do that one once.

>>384124717
I never mentioned how the soundtracks are used and I'm not interested in arguing on that front. Quality-wise the original is best.

What's a good way to grind levels? Secret bosses are way higher level than me.

>>384124717
I'd say Nier 1 had a more memorable soundtrack while Automata definitely has some interesting uses and variety.

Nier 1 also has the benefit of being a small collection of good songs rather than a billion variations to sift through

>>384124717
>how it uses
Correct
>quality
Now that is entirely subjective. It has great themes (Tower, Park, Desert town and few others), but overall I liked original's more. There aren't many songs in it that hit as hard as Grandma or Kaine

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>>384124754
Alright, thanks for the info. I've been spoilered enough as it is but I'm fairly certain I could never find these without asking somewhere so that's more than enough. I'll go do the rest myself as best as I can without guides until the point where I probably say fuck it and consult them anyway.

>>384124463
Here we go again with meme directors and flaws being intentionally placed there. Can't look at a game objectively anymore on this place when it comes from a meme director.

>>384124881
Golden Rabbit in the Amusement Park as 9S.

>>384124881
Attack the golden statue at the front of the amusement park until it aggros you (might take several minutes depending on your level) and then hack it to death for gigantic experience.

>>384124881
if you go back to where you fought Adam in the white room, there's infinitely respawning enemies you can just zone out while massacring. the elevator to it is down the other path in the tunnels that lead to the Mothership

>>384124463
>intentionally
I don't think Taro intentionally makes the gameplay bad. It's just that you can't polish it on a small budget. Still, Drakengard 1 had enjoyable dragon sections, Nier had very satisfying magic spells and general combat was alright, Drakengard 3... well, we don't talk about its gameplay here.

>>384124916
21 of the endings (F through Z) are just bad ends that you've gotta go out of your way to find in most cases. Only two I found on my own were the suicide chip and eating the mackeral.

Atmospheric as fuck, great music, satisfying gameplay, and lots of grinding if you want

I fucking loved it

>>384119407
>the music was inferior to the first nier

the fuck

most of the tracks are from the first game

>story was a mess

You're kidding right?

>>384125071
>I don't think Taro intentionally makes the gameplay bad.
He's gone on record saying he dosen't give a fuck about gameplay.

And it shows, Taro, boy does it show.

>>384125071
I didn't mind Drakengard 3's gameplay that much. It was just a really simple hack n slash for the most part aside from the final boss. The dragon sections didn't need to be there though, there were only 3 and there was nothing to them.

>>384125204
There's a difference between not caring how the gameplay ends up and intentionally making it garbage though. As the other anon said, even D1 managed to have some enjoyable sections.

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>>384125120
Yeah, found those and the one where 9S just fucks off to go research shit by himself at the beginning of his route by accident. Hearty kek right there honestly. Guess I could use those as searching motivation along with the rest.

>>384125336
>There's a difference between not caring how the gameplay ends up and intentionally making it garbage though.
It implies a lack of respect for the very concept of games. Game design is an art. Even crackheads like Kojima recognize this.

I honestly think Taro is better off making visual novels so he can stop pretending he even gives a fuck about making games. His points of itnerest are the stories/art/music anyway.

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>X's data has been lost
>Y's data has been lost
>Z's data has been lost
>A's data has been lost

>>384125543
I was literally so satisfied after getting that final ending, deleting all my data. I will never play this game again and I'm ok with that

>>384125519
I 100% disagree, all of his games are great not because of the whacky story but because of how the game lends itself to the whacky story. That's true for Drakengard, Nier and Automata.

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>possessed by a disease

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After putting the game off for so long I finally got to the ending with 9S hijacking robots' network and becoming their mastermind.

Am I supposed to start a new game from the beginning now?

>>384125923
Just continue your file.

>>384125850
Drakengard 1 is my favorite game of his so I know the score with that.

But if he dosent give a fuck about the quality of his gameplay, then why waste those resources? It makes no sense.

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>>384119407
Meh. I liked it.

I didn't like the game that much either, but I feel bad for Nier fans that they have to deal with all this >>384119559
shitposting now that the series went "mainstream".

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>>384125981
All, right, thanks.

Took me 18 hours by the way.

>>384125923
Wait what, he never does that.

>>384126153
I straight up ignore the "fanbase" at this point. I just want Taro to get his head out of his ass and make better games. Automata was carried by Platinum and it shows.

>>384126173
That's the impression I got from him causing eyes of robots all over the city to blink in green in an attempt to send some message..

>>384125991
He does care though, moments like getting sucked into Sleeping Beauty's text adventure, or the first time you get hacked by Simone have a clear design to them. I'm not gonna tell you he intentionally makes things clunky but I'll have you consider that from Drakengard to Nier to Automata the games have gotten significantly less clunky with each installment.

>>384119407
baby's first deep game
airheads who just wanted a fap ended up walking into some pretentious philosophy and now they think they're enlightened intellects.

>>384126153
I think the only safe havens are Nier threads since they haven't played it.

>>384126351
Drakengard 3 actually has worse gameplay than both Nier and Drakengard 1 so I dunno about that.

And Automata was all Platinum. Taro is your honest-to-god ideas guy who managed to position himself as the quirky genius, but luckily he can back it up in every aspect but gameplay,

>>384122405
>makes a criticism towards automata
>H-HE DIDN'T PLAY IT UNTIL THE END!!!1
not him but I got ending E and he's right, the game is just really unremarkable.

Only autistic weeb waifushut fag degenerates like it and v is unfortunately full of those trash

>>384126715
That's your prerogative, but declaring that at maaaaaybe the 40% mark is stupid. Especially if you have already played any other taro game before.

On a personal level, unremarkable is false. Badly executed in way too many places to really be greater than the sum of its parts, sure. But you can't call unremarkable or generic because it really isn't.

>>384127224
>On a personal level, unremarkable is false. Badly executed in way too many places to really be greater than the sum of its parts, sure. But you can't call unremarkable or generic because it really isn't.
This

>>384126641
How does DoD3 have worse combat? You've got simple combos and attacks you can chain which is far more than mindlessly pressing square in DoD1.

>>384122027
You are positively retarded. How do you even tie your shoes unassisted when you leave the house

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A2 is such a fucking chuuni jesus christ.
>nothing personnel dash
>complete with red glow
>activating B-mode is literally called "Releasing limiter"
>the only android to physically taunt

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>384127538
As far as I'm concerned all of Taro's games are mindless button mashing.

Drakengard 3 just has terrible framerates, awkward and needless platforming, and combat that was far more clunky than even Nier 1.

Mechanically Drakengard 1 is The Witcher 1: Musou Edition

>>384119407
Yoko Taro doesn't know how to write. He can only appeal to emotion. All he does is write about children suffering with sci-fi mumbo jumbo. Read a fricken' book.

>>384128390
Ok, which book should I read?

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>>384128390
>reading books
>not going out and studying the human condition on your own.

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Game's ugly as shit this is full option btw

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I'm kinda sad to say it but I think this game actually didn't gain from being made by platinum. I don't like saying it because I rather like platinum games but the high octane action they make is just not suited to something that wants to go beyond "kill the bad guy".

It's particularly bad in level design which is bare bones at the best of time. The environment look great, no complaining here, but the level design is just absent. Well, rather, it's empty. You can run through any areas in 5 minutes at most and with no reason to stop besides the occasional chest or quest items. Worse, the camera is awkwardly controlled for you in several areas, when they're not plainly empty. They would all have gained from more interactivity. The amusement park has got to be the worst wasted potential in the game.

They're also all self contained for one sequence in the game and then forgotten about, so you're never invested when shit goes down. You don't get to see the songstress go mad, you don't get to see the religion form itself, you don't get to see pascal assemble his village or teach them what he knows, you don't get to see the desert machines uncover ruins and read about customs, you magically witness flashbacks of the forest kingdom because they'd apparently forgotten to include that in your visits, and there's nothing in the flooded city. You only ever see the aftermath, when it'd have been a simple thing given how long lived the androids are to have you be present. You have a fucking recon type that never does recon in the game.

Same thing for characters. You only see adam and eve like twice each as more than newborns and they don't even get characterization before the last encounter, they're just sort of there to dump info and die, except we know jack shit about them so it does nothing the first time and the second time you don't really care more.

Waste potential.

>>384119407
>the gameplay was weak
I agree, but it was still a big improvement over the first game.
>the story was a mess
No it wasn't?
>the music was inferior to the first nier
No it wasn't.

>>384130585
You know I hate resorting to "you just don't get it" posts, but what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>384130585
>You don't get to see the songstress go mad

Someone didn't actually play the game i see.

>>384131225
>a text dump
>the same thing as watching it happen

wish they didn't make you play 9S most of the game

Again the " Nier Automata is a bad game, but i played it 30h,to post on 4chan,how bad this game is" thread.

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NO.
FUN.

>>384132303
This, if someone doesn't like the game I can't fathom how they could play through route B

>>384126312
That's fucking ending a and b. Your like 5 or so chapters away from the actual end

>>384132671
I'm OP and played up to ending e because of how the first nier suddenly got amazing - that never happened

>>384132671
>hear about automata
>hear that its a slow burn beginning and the game truly starts after ending B
>buy game
>game is complete shit even after ending B

Or maybe, people have different opinions

>>384132792
I played NieR as well and I think Automata route C was brilliant, sorry you were disappointed

its a nuweeb game

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Wheres the ass at? Its the only reason I bother looking through these threads.

>>384133045
right here: https://reddit.com

>>384132996
No need to apologise man, I realise I'm in the minority, the game just didn't click with me

babby's first taro game

>>384132861
Your fault for allowing other people's opinions to govern your purchase

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>>384133480
I played all his games, and, while Automata certainly didn't hit you in the gut as hard as first Nier did, I found that its themes are more interesting and developed, and it finally gave us a heartwarming ending with an extremely positive message at the end.

Also, dub 9S was fucking great in route C when the actor wasn't pretending to be a 12-year old boy.

>>384119407
>the music was inferior

Are you being a memeing fuck because a shit load of the games music is from the first game

>>384121317
You played like half the game, and literally everything you explained gets explained throughout the game. Even down to why 2B is harsh towards 9S

>>384133726
>hear about automata
When did I ever say that "other peoples opinions governed my purchase"? What the fuck
I saw the E3 reveal and I saw the trailers for the game, I didn't buy it because people were singing praises for it

>>384122434
C is a completely new game. You get sweet nazi battle armor

Just got ending E today and deleted my data, got surprisingly emotional at the segment with all the messages and shit
It's a good game, the writing was a bit eh at times and the random philosopher names were pretty stupid but it was overall pretty enjoyable
The game gets shitposted about a lot but i didn't think there was anything fundamentally wrong with it except for A2 cutting her hair

>>384119407
You can't say that here, /v/ loves Yoko Taro!

>>384134031
>Automata certainly didn't hit you in the gut as hard as first Nier did
Route C is probably the wildest Taro ride if you grew to care about the characters.

>>384132789
Well... Did you get a different impression of how things were going when you finished ending A?

>>384134694
>random philosopher names
machine network was simulating failures
all philosopher machines are build specifically to mock those philosophers

>>384134035
I have a feeling OP didn't even play the game.

>>384119407
B-but the wacky developer with the ebin mask??

>>384134614
I assumed your greentext was your rationale for buying the game, hop off my dick

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>>384133045
There.

Spoilered for obvious reasons.

>>384135143
He wears the mask because his face is really ugly and he's aware of it enough to the point where he doesn't want to put others through having to look at him either.

>>384135424
I don't think anyone really cared before he started putting the mask on.

>>384135113
Really? It felt superficial to me, i don't think most of them had even a single line or anything relevant to who they were named after

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If machines were to have genders, WHICH THEY FUCKING DON'T, then why do they keep saying Pascal is a "he" when clearly the voice says it's a she? Hell, it's even voiced by a female voice actor.

>>384136383
You've never encountered a male character being voiced by a woman?

>>384135871
>Simone Beauvoir (who had a lifelong relationship with Sartre) wrote of the example of a woman's identity gone wrong in which is based on nothing but a man's affection.
>Grün (big fish boss) was a socialist thinker big on the idea that people are inherently social beings and need the community to survive (whereas Grün the boss is shunned and sealed away).
>Immanuel Kant wrote of the importance of duty in moral action and the intent behind an action being more important than the end result. Immanuel, otherwise known as the baby Forest King, sacrifices itself out of good intent but with little result, and the king's duty-bound subjects put him in the body of a child with good intent, but with unfortunate results. The entire Forest Kingdom sequence can be seen as playing with this. We go through the area once seeing only the result. Then again with intent. But then we never learn anything about A2's intent in her action at the end of it, and are only left with the result to judge her with.
>Soren Kierkegaard's writings have much to do with the concept of both religious faith and doubt as well as accusing society as a whole of being in denial about death. Kierkegaard is the name of the Become as Gods cult leader. “To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God.”
>Blaise Pascal's most famous work "The Pensées" famously seeks to convert readers to Christianity via a pessimistic route of convincing readers of the horrors of life assuming that those readers would then turn to God. However, today his work is more popular for his descriptions of the horrors of life rather than the part about turning to God. Just as Pascal in game teaches the children the horrors of the world assuming it'd keep them safe, but they instead succumb to that fear. "Man's greatness comes from knowing he is wretched."

>>384137141
how did taro expect japanese players to know all these names?

>>384137323
By actually receiving education in school.

>>384136383
If you're asking any of these questions, you've totally missed the whole point of what they were doing with the peaceful machines and Pascal.

>>384137141
I wonder why Taro didn't include Camus in it. Maybe because the game is in line with his reasoning, so it'd be wrong to include a boss named after him.

>>384135871
>It felt superficial to me

This is the problem with people trying to talk about story elements in Automata. Most of it completely goes over peoples heads and then they cry about it being shit.

>>384137524
He only included philosophers he wanted to take a dump on one way or the other.
Sartre and Simone got the worst treatment, possibly because irl they were engaged in open relationships with shared lovers which is completely alien for japanese person.

>>384126153
Doesn't really matter.
Shit is slowing down and only the laziest of slowpokes didn't pick up the game yet.
Give it a few months and we'll be mostly back to slow but calm dod/nier/n:a threads with occasional sperg bitching about how could someone like a game he didn't.
Well unless Square decides to milk it some more in which case it'll take much longer.

>>384137857
Speaking of Sartre, some anon told me he views his quest as a small version of the entire game - three robots seek the attention of someone who doesn't care or detests them, and when he leaves, the three view it as an act of love.

>>384137141
To be fair i don't know shit about Grun or Pascal
The only ones i felt made sense were Sartre and Beauvoir (which was very obvious because of that whole sequence on the B route) but all the other ones you've cited seem quite convoluted (especially for Kant), though i suppose i could see the themes for Kierkegaard with existential dread and need for God
I really can't see you coming up with a convincing explanation for Hegel or Engels though, even if you make it extremely convoluted
Also wasn't the baby named after Nietzsche or am i thinking of another character?

>>384137660
Don't be so defensive anon, if you had read my first post you would have seen that i believe it's quite good

>>384122252
Half? Thats generous, title screen and prologue only appears after ending B.

The game starts when 2b dies.

>>384138658
>Marx/Engels
Not him, but I think that's just a sort of pun on them being industrial machines, the means of productions.

>>384138658
The machine with the bucket was called Friedrich. Also Pascal is reading Nietzsche at one point.

Did people really find the story boring? Route C was hype as shit and kept me playing for 9 hours straight. There were so many great moments, like the beginning invasion sequence, Pascal going nuclear, Dev/Pop atonement and VN section, and the entirety of the Tower. Favorite part was the A2/9S tagteam and seeing the library from Nier 1

>>384138956
Yeah that's the only link i could make too, i recall Engels talking about sin at one point but nothing relevant to his works as far as i know

>>384138658
>Engels
Game takes place in 11945.
On one side of a conflict you have androids using Ho-229 flight units, StG 44 rifles and Nazi-like salute.
On another side of a conflict you have machine collective consciousness with some of the most powerful machines being a giant pile of work equipment and named after Marx and Engels, with goal of the machines being awakening their consciousness through constant struggle which mirrors some aspects of Marxist theory.

>>384139228
I enjoyed it. Some people seem to not like that there weren't many big twists like there were in NieR, but I didn't think it needed twists like that to make it all engaging.

>>384138658
>Hegel
Hegel is portrayed as an extremely advanced machine lifeform as in Nier's lore all machines achieve spherical form at highest forms of evolution. He also seems to study Emil who may be considered an ultimate lifeform. You can say that he strives towards the absolute idea by trying to improve himself as much as possible and achieve the highest forms of machine evolution.

>>384139228
There was absolute zero reason for me to care about the characters so yeah, it was boring for me.

>>384119407
(You) Might be gay

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>mfw every time I try to understand Dialectism
Shit jsut doesn't make any sense. Every time I think I get something, there's a paragraph that destroys everything I've thought was obvious. Maybe I should read Hegel himself.

>>384119407
For an AAA game it feels very cheap and poorly made.

Reused content, same locations, lack of variety in everything from weapons to enemies. It's a 5/10 game propped up by the fact it's made by japan so weebs praise it more.

>>384119407
The first Nier is literally shit. This Nier is a 10/10.

>>384140679
>AAA game

All Taro games have the budget of 5 peanuts.

Automata had the budget of at least 10 peanuts.

>>384140890
Those 5 extra peanuts were put into modeling 2B's ass

I played through both NieR and Automata fairly recently and I was curious, what the fuck was the point of Seafront in NieR? It seems like it had no reason to be there aside from giving you some sidequests.

>>384141083
It's literally just a town where people live, that's it

>>384140679
>Implying that any Taro game is AAA

>>384142162
Why is it in the game though? I'm sure there are other towns where people live in that world too but we don't see them. Was there some cut content or something? It seems like an awful lot of effort to put it there and not do very much at all with it.

I bought it on steam and refunded it when I beat the game within 2 hours.

Incredibly short and shallow game, don't understand why people praise it so much here on /v/ with a nonsensical story and poor characters.

>>384142365
I don't know, maybe from a developer point of view they wanted to have a place in the game that wasn't all doom and gloom compared to the other zones

>>384141083
Probably a victim of cut content. In the side material the main cast end up fighting some giant mermaid shade there.

>>384122405
>Kierkegaard spent his entire life talking about how religious cults distances people from God
>is portrayed in the game as a cult leader because Taro read in his Wikipedia entry that he was religious
Really makes you think

>hurr durr you must play the game 3 times to really finish it
Thanks faggots. I think I'll play it once and give it 4/10.
I'm not eating Nip bullshit.

>>384144171
>I'm going to play this game I won't like!
Wow you sure showed us.

>>384143820
It wasn't a suicide cult until Kierkegaard died and his followers completely misinterpreted his teachings.

>>384144171
That's like going through only one set of roads in OutRun.

>>384144637
Literally what is outrun?
Keep your nip gook bullshit to yourself.

>>384119407
its weebshit so it must be good in /v/'s eyes

>>384144789
Yeah, that's why we get no 'how could someone like this game when I didn't' threads whatsoever.